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  Speaker 1: H Strange things started happening after I trusted someone I shouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: get your podcast. Let's dive into this one. Here's a
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  Speaker 1: list of strange things that have been happening to me
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  Speaker 1: over the core of the last six months. The first
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  Speaker 1: thing that happened to me was a message received from
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  Speaker 1: a family member, or so I thought, who I got
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  Speaker 1: a message through Facebook from a great aunt. I don't
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  Speaker 1: talk to her often, but she is pretty close with
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  Speaker 1: other members of my family that I'm close to, so
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised that she would reach out. I recently
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  Speaker 1: graduated college, so she asked me what I was up
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  Speaker 1: to now, questions about my job, where I live, my boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. By the way, this comes from you user
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  Speaker 2: I'm Dakota, I'm Sophia, I'm Carly.
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  Speaker 1: And op says. I answered all of her questions as
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  Speaker 1: detailed as I could and tried having a good conversation
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  Speaker 1: with her. I gave like a brief area of where
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  Speaker 1: I live within my city, but obviously didn't give her
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  Speaker 1: my address. I talked to her for a few days
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  Speaker 1: while she continued to ask about my personal life. Then,
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  Speaker 1: out of the blue, I try sending a message to her,
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  Speaker 1: but the messenger app won't let it go through. I
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  Speaker 1: assumed maybe she deleted her account because it got hacked,
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  Speaker 1: or she decided to stop using social media. I saw
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  Speaker 1: this already happen once with my uncle's account. I talked
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  Speaker 1: it up to just that and moved on. Then a
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  Speaker 1: couple months later, I'm scrolling through my messages and I
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  Speaker 1: see those old messages like they are faded through, like
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  Speaker 1: Facebook showing the account is no longer around. I figured
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't need them anymore, so I just deleted them.
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  Speaker 1: This is when I stumbled on another account with the
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  Speaker 1: same great aunt's name. You got scammed, buddy, scam, you
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  Speaker 1: got scamed.
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  Speaker 2: Scamme alerts.
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  Speaker 1: You know what your great aunt sounds like?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I guess not.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, and what is your social Security number? And what
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  Speaker 1: are some other identifying traits about?
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  Speaker 2: What remind me? What was my daughter's maiden name?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: What is my last name? Please tell me?
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  Speaker 1: I got confused and wondered if maybe she made a
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  Speaker 1: new account.
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  Speaker 2: Oh boy.
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  Speaker 1: But then I look at the messages and realized she
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  Speaker 1: had sent me a happy birthday message a month before
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  Speaker 1: the other account messaged me asking about my life. I
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  Speaker 1: realized there are two different accounts in her name. I
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  Speaker 1: clicked on the happy birthday message and it brought up
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  Speaker 1: her account. There are pictures on there from over ten
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  Speaker 1: years ago. I messaged her and she told me that
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  Speaker 1: she has always had that account and has never used
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  Speaker 1: another one.
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  Speaker 2: It's hacked.
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  Speaker 1: You got hacked.
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  Speaker 2: He got phished, yees, saying she didn't use that other one.
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  Speaker 2: But folks got no, you were just scammed.
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  Speaker 1: We need basic Internet literacy. Okay, it's always it pays.
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  Speaker 1: It pays extra interest to do just the tiniest little
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  Speaker 1: bit of leg work, a little bit, just a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: When estranged relatives start reaching out to you, it's time
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  Speaker 1: to make sure they're really your relatives. So I had
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  Speaker 1: told a bunch of personal details about my life to
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  Speaker 1: a fake account that was using her name. Oh boy,
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  Speaker 1: Even if it was a simple case of fraud, like
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to rip off my credit cards or something,
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  Speaker 1: then why did they not ask any questions or even
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  Speaker 1: hint at something like that? All they wanted to know
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  Speaker 1: was personal details about my life. Fast forward a couple
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  Speaker 1: months later, and I decided to rent a garage from
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  Speaker 1: my landlord, which is next to my apartment building. I know,
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  Speaker 1: it's stupid that we have to rent a garage stall
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  Speaker 1: separate from renting our apartment. I start parking my car
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  Speaker 1: in it, and a few days after I start using it,
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  Speaker 1: I wake up one morning to find my garage door
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  Speaker 1: is open. For about the next month, I wake up,
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  Speaker 1: get ready and go down to my garage and the
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  Speaker 1: door is wide open. This happens about once a week
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  Speaker 1: for a month. It's random days, and usually in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the night it happens, so I don't notice
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  Speaker 1: it until I walk down in the morning. I also
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  Speaker 1: want to add that I haven't accidentally hit a button.
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  Speaker 1: And after this started happening, every time I closed my
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  Speaker 1: garage door, I watched it go down to make sure
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  Speaker 1: it's stayed down.
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  Speaker 2: Are you kidding, dude?
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  Speaker 1: So what's breaking into your garage? Once a week and
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  Speaker 1: you're like, here, I don't know what's happening.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: I know the bus should not be impressed.
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  Speaker 2: It's happening in the middle of night. Let's go call
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  Speaker 2: someone about this. Let's go fix your garage. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: do something come on.
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  Speaker 1: I've ruled out most logical explanations. The third time I
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  Speaker 1: found my garage door open, I realized that the light
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  Speaker 1: on my rear view mirror inside of my car was on,
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  Speaker 1: like someone had turned it on and went through my car.
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  Speaker 1: I have no sympathy for you.
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  Speaker 2: You're big touchill.
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  Speaker 1: I have no sympathy for you at this point, big
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  Speaker 1: touchill insane. The whole month this was happening, I never
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  Speaker 1: once found anything missing from my car or my garage.
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  Speaker 1: It hasn't happened now for two weeks. My boyfriend at
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  Speaker 1: one point lost his keys. About three weeks ago, he
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  Speaker 1: was getting ready for work and realized his keys were gone.
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  Speaker 1: He ended up walking to work and had to leave
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  Speaker 1: our apartment door unlocked because he didn't have a key
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  Speaker 1: to lock up and I was already at work. When
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  Speaker 1: we got home that night, I made sure we looked
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  Speaker 1: all over the apartment to make sure nothing was missing,
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  Speaker 1: and also for his keys. Everything seemed fine. My boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: had found his keys in the garage after looking a
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  Speaker 1: little bit longer. I don't know how they could have
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  Speaker 1: gotten there, but they did. After watching TV for a
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  Speaker 1: few hours that night, I realized we hadn't checked the balcony.
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  Speaker 1: I went to check the balcony door. Couldn't see the
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  Speaker 1: lock on the door at first, because our screen door
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  Speaker 1: is in front of the sliding glass door, the closest
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  Speaker 1: to the inside of our apartment. So I slide open
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  Speaker 1: the screen door, which doesn't lock and noticed right away
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  Speaker 1: that the lock is unlatched on the sliding glass door.
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  Speaker 1: I slid the door open a crack and peeked on
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  Speaker 1: the balcony because I got nervous. I couldn't see anything,
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  Speaker 1: so I closed the door and locked it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh pee, there's someone in there. Someone's in there. Someone's
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  Speaker 2: breaking in your house. Opee, let's call someone, ring ring ring.
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  Speaker 2: Someone's breaking in my house.
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  Speaker 1: It is probably the definition of like, you are too chill.
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  Speaker 1: You're too chill for being way too not. You're taking
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  Speaker 1: no action about this, and it's not okay.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get some shalants up in here.
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  Speaker 1: You need to get schalanted immediately, immin. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to mention that my boyfriend and I have a rule
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  Speaker 1: to always lock that door. I have never left it
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  Speaker 1: open unless it was in the summertime.
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  Speaker 2: I believe you right, someone's breaking in your house.
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  Speaker 1: You need to like beat cameras. You need to be armed,
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  Speaker 1: you need to be protected. You need something because someone's
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  Speaker 1: trying to actively break into your house and to do something.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Check your car's like a tracker on
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  Speaker 1: it or something. I don't know what's happening, but there's
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  Speaker 1: someone's up to no good. I also want to mention
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  Speaker 1: that it is winter now and we probably haven't opened
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  Speaker 1: that door in a couple months. I know I didn't
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  Speaker 1: leave it unlocked. I know these things could all be
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  Speaker 1: a coincidence, but it is just odd to me. It
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  Speaker 1: makes me feel uneasy. I don't know if anyone has
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  Speaker 1: had similar experiences. I've read a lot about stalking situations
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  Speaker 1: and learned about stalking in general while in school, so
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  Speaker 1: I know that victims oftentimes know their stalker, but I
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  Speaker 1: honestly can't pinpoint a particular person, which is why I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure what to think about this situation. If you
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  Speaker 1: made it through this story and have any advice at all,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be so appreciative, even if you think it's nothing.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know what to think. I'm currently writing
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  Speaker 1: this to see if any of you can help me
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  Speaker 1: determine if I'm being stalked. Sometimes I think I might
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  Speaker 1: be overreacting. Sometimes I think these things could all be
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  Speaker 1: a coincidence, but I still feel uneasy about it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: hoping if I post this on here that someone might
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  Speaker 1: be able to give me an explanation, or maybe someone
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  Speaker 1: has gone through similar circumstances and can offer advice. I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't really find much about a situation where the stalker
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  Speaker 1: wasn't known, and there are comments Comment one. One thing
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  Speaker 1: that I've learned and is always trust your gut. If
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  Speaker 1: it's saying you're possibly being stalked, prepare instead of being
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  Speaker 1: sorry for it later. A camera would be a good
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  Speaker 1: first steps, along with getting the locks changed. Yes, comment too,
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  Speaker 1: those things sound suspicious. I would also add to your
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  Speaker 1: patio sliding door a long block of wood put in
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  Speaker 1: the sliding side so when it's shut and someone tries
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  Speaker 1: to move the door, it won't slide. That way, you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to rely on just a little metal lock.
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  Speaker 1: And I would ask your landlord if he gave out
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  Speaker 1: the same key to previous renters of that garage. If
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  Speaker 1: he says yes, then ask if he can change the lock,
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  Speaker 1: because there could also be a previous renter using the
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  Speaker 1: same key. Also ask if he went into your garage
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  Speaker 1: or apartment. Comment three says a dozen thoughts for you.
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  Speaker 1: Op set your social media to private, change your passwords
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  Speaker 1: for everything. If someone has been in your apartment, they
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  Speaker 1: may have been on your computer. Ask your landlord to
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  Speaker 1: rekey your door. Lock. Those missing house keys may have
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  Speaker 1: been duplicated. Reset the garage door code. Always lock your
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  Speaker 1: car even when you part work in the garage. Set
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  Speaker 1: up surveillance in your garage with a hidden camera inside
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  Speaker 1: the unit. Place a bar on that patio door so
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  Speaker 1: it stays shut. Consider setting up a surveillance cam inside
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  Speaker 1: your apartment. Break up your routine. You do not want
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  Speaker 1: to be predictable. Tell your neighbor's, landlord, family, friends, and
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  Speaker 1: coworkers to be on the lookout for strange activity and
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  Speaker 1: unknown people. Also find out if anyone has been asking
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  Speaker 1: questions about you. Keep your head up and your eyes open.
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  Speaker 1: Notice who is around you at all the time, wherever
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  Speaker 1: you are. If you do have a stalker, it may
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  Speaker 1: or may not be a stranger, but it's definitely somebody
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  Speaker 1: with a creepy side. Remain open to the possibility that
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  Speaker 1: this could be someone that you've had contact with past
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  Speaker 1: or present. Trust your gut. If someone or something feels off,
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  Speaker 1: leave immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Thank Gosh for this commenter who knows what to do.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, thanks for saying all the things this person should do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Op, you listen to that commentary. That's all my advice.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to that commentary, get cameras.
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  Speaker 1: Get cameras yesterday, change your locks.
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  Speaker 2: Today, yesterday, all of that, all of that everything.
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  Speaker 1: There's an edit here. This is kind of an update
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  Speaker 1: from the past week. Another thing has happened that I
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  Speaker 1: need to mention. None of the other things seemed to
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  Speaker 1: have continued on. I completed some of the security measures
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  Speaker 1: you guys mentioned, and I appreciate you all so much.
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  Speaker 1: But yesterday I was dog sitting alone at my mom's
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  Speaker 1: house and I got a phone call. I looked down
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  Speaker 1: at the phone and it said no caller ID. Oh no.
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  Speaker 1: I often get calls from random numbers, but not calls
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  Speaker 1: like that. I usually never answer either, because it's usually telemarketers.
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  Speaker 1: I got this bad feeling in my gut, but had
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  Speaker 1: to know who it was, so I picked up. It
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  Speaker 1: was a man on the other end, and at first
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  Speaker 1: he was just breathing for a long time. But after
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  Speaker 1: I had said alone a couple of times, he said,
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  Speaker 1: Aloe back, but in this really quiet, creepy voice. It
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  Speaker 1: was almost like he was surprised that I answered, yeah,
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: he probably is. He's doing like the creepy voice.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: Like from the first scene with Drew barrymore. What's up
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  Speaker 2: from scream.
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  Speaker 4: Do you like scary?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's just like what huh huh?
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  Speaker 2: Are you talking about it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: First it's like, oh wow, she hasn't hung up. You're
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  Speaker 1: just like Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Who didn't think I'd get this far?
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  Speaker 1: I asked who was calling? And he started like creepily
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  Speaker 1: chuckling and asked me, who are you? Like he was
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  Speaker 1: mocking me. I asked again who it was, and that's
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  Speaker 1: when he said something really creepy and disturbing to me,
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  Speaker 1: And that's when I hung up. This is the only
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  Speaker 1: phone call I've ever gotten like that. It just scared
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  Speaker 1: me to think how he could have gotten my number.
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  Speaker 1: But I just have a bad feeling that this could
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  Speaker 1: be related to the other incidents.
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  Speaker 2: What it is?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, p oh, he's like that number, cell provider, It'll
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  Speaker 4: show up. No colorities still show up.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, get the number contact or cell provider. Get that
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  Speaker 1: phone number. Our report to the police. Oh, pe, have
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  Speaker 1: some common sense, For the love of God.
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  Speaker 2: Please, my wife got pregnant while I was away for work.
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  Speaker 4: Oh it could it be yours? Isn't anyway?
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  Speaker 2: My wife two female and I twenty four male, have
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  Speaker 2: been married for two years together for four I work
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  Speaker 2: on a river barge, so I spend about a month
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: away from home at a time for work, followed by
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  Speaker 2: two weeks off. I've been doing this for the last
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  Speaker 2: years since I got laid off from my other job.
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  Speaker 2: By the way this comes from literally sounds legit. And
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  Speaker 2: if you want to submit your own stories, go to
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  Speaker 2: the r slash Okay story time severed at I'm Sophia, I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Carly, I'm Keon, and we're here to give good.
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  Speaker 2: Advice goofully, But we don't have all the answers. We
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  Speaker 2: only know what we do, so let us know what
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  Speaker 2: you would do in the comments, and Op says, I
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: just got back from a job and found out that
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: my wife has been having an affair with an old
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  Speaker 2: boyfriend that recently came back to town. Ouch. I asked
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  Speaker 2: her how many times, and I wish I didn't. She
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  Speaker 2: said she wasn't sure. You never want to hear that.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, Nope, that's bad.
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  Speaker 2: And that it had been a continual thing. They started
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: talking on Facebook a few months ago, but it had
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: only been innocent catching up until this last time I left.
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  Speaker 2: This time, they agreed to meet up and had basically
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: been sleeping together all month. While I was away. She
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: said that she had planned to end it when I
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  Speaker 2: got back and knew she had to come clean. You
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  Speaker 2: let me look at her Facebook messages, inbox and text
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  Speaker 2: messages for proof, and the messages were consistent with her
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  Speaker 2: story and timeline. My initial reaction was that the marriage
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  Speaker 2: was over. I felt betrayed, hurt, and didn't think I'd
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  Speaker 2: ever be able to trust her again. I work my
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: butt off so that she doesn't have to work while
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: she's in school. I felt like being faithful was the
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: least she could do for me. She knew what marriage
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: meant to me long before we took our vows. Both
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  Speaker 2: of us are Catholics. We aren't perfect Catholics by a
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: long shot, but were deeply religious. I stressed to her
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  Speaker 2: that for me, marriage is a forever commitment in sickness
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: and in health, and till passing do us part means
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  Speaker 2: something to me. I told her that I knew I
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: wanted to be with her for the rest of my life,
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: but only if she could promise me that she wanted
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: the same thing. I stayed at a friend's place for
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: a few days and thought it over. First, I talked
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: to our priests. He reminded me what I signed up
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  Speaker 2: for and believed in. I don't like that she cheated
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  Speaker 2: on him. Yeah, I just don't think about it. I
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: don't think about it. You signed up for insickness and
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: in health. He didn't sign up to be cheated on.
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  Speaker 4: Cheating and in.
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  Speaker 2: Literally one of the commandments adultery no, no, big bad.
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  Speaker 4: It's a big no no.
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  Speaker 2: Marriage is a forever commitment, and that means being able
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  Speaker 2: to forgive and work past problems. She's been cheating for.
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  Speaker 4: So long that she doesn't remember how many times.
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  Speaker 2: This is terrible advice.
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  Speaker 5: Get a new priest, get a new wife.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, wife, and a new priest.
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  Speaker 2: He recommended that for now I find work close to
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  Speaker 2: home so I can be with my wife and keep
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  Speaker 2: an eye on her. What kind of ad ice is this?
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  Speaker 2: And that we seek marriage counseling, either through the church
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: or with the therapist.
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  Speaker 5: Did he cheat with the priest?
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you say, I.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: Think you should just stay with her.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: I also talked to some of the older guys I
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: work with, and it gave me some perspective. A lot
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: of them have gone through the same thing. Some of
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: their marriages survived, and a lot of them didn't. But
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: all of them agree that spending long periods away from
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: home at times can be rough on any marriage, but
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: especially tough for young marriages. I understand that feeling constantly
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: lonely and being by yourself in an empty house is hard.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: We talked and she assured me that she loved me.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: She promised me that the affair meant nothing to her,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: that she just felt alone, and that she would cut
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: off all contact with the guy. She understood that she
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: would have to work to earn my trust back. Agreed
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: to give me access to her Facebook and to check
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: her phone randomly until I can trust her again. She
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: also agreed to go to marriage counseling. On my end,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: I have agreed to find a local job so that
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I can be with her and focus on our marriage.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: We aren't having spicy sleep right now, and haven't since
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: she came clean to me. I wanted to take it
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: slow getting intimate again, and she respected that. We've been kissing, cuddling,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: and sleeping in the same bed more recently, she has
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: been insisting on giving me other spicy stuff, which I'm
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: okay with. She says she just wants to know that
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: I still want her and that she wants to please me.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I do want her, and I appreciate her efforts to
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: say okay, oh boy, still no spicy sleep though it's
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: not her, it's me, it's not you.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: She cheated on you, it's you because of what she did.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: She cheated on you makes total sense.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I still find her attractive, but I think it's going
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: to take at least a little while before I feel
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: like having spicy sleep with her again. I guess I
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: still feel grossed out by the prospect of it, like
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: she's unclean or something. She understands how I feel and
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: is okay with it. She offered to let me cheat
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: on her to get even Why is that always the
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: cheaters thing?
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Why is that what we go to.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, oh, you can cheat on me. I
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: don't want you to cheat on me. I don't want
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: to cheat on you.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: That's two wrongs. Is not making right here?
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Or get some physical release you? But I declined, I
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: don't want to screw somebody else. I want to be
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: with my wife and I just want things to go
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: back to normal. Two weeks later, we find out she's pregnant.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: A ah, I don't know if y'all can get through this.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Gonna be honest.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: What's your priest gotta say?
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Now? Yeah, the priest is like, well, you gotta get
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: so if you have a baby together. If Joe, He's
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: like trying to do the math. You're both the father,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: you both marry. I don't that's another religion, Dan, Yeah,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: obviously the other guy is the father. I'm the only
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: person she's told so far being religious. Not continuing the
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: pregnancy was off the table for us from the start.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I told her that I want her to put the
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: baby up for adoption. I'm willing to forgive her and
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: repair our marriage, and I can look past an awful lot.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: When I know that I cannot do is go through
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: every day looking at a reminder of her infidelity and
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: having this other guy intertwined in our lives in some capacity.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I can't do it. I know that probably makes me
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: a poor Christian. Give yourself a break, my guy, But
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I've got to believe that God understands that I'm not
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: perfect and forgives me. Yeah, she wants to keep the baby.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Who says that the other guy never asked to know
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: about it. Yikes, you're what We've gotta tell that guy?
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Come on, and that she understands that our marriage cannot
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: survive with him in our lives, but her opinion is
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: that it isn't the baby's fault. The baby didn't ask
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: to be born out of an adulterous relationship, and that
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: we would be unnecessarily causing the baby to suffer by
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: putting it up for adoption. She also said that the
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: baby is a part of her and that she would
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: like me to be able to love and accept the
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: child as a part of her instead of the other man.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I understand where she is coming from, and I get
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: that it would have to be terrible to carry a
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: baby and have it grow inside of you for nine months,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: knowing that you've got to give it away as soon
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: as it's born. But I can't do it. I really
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: don't know what else to say. She has agreed to
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: go talk to our priest about it with me, but
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: regardless of what he says, I can't see either of
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: us budging on it. My marriage might be over, and
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: all I feel like doing is drinking until I pass out.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I barely think about it. But we haven't even talked
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: to our families about the infidelity yet, let alone the pregnancy.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: The whole thing is embarrassing, and I don't want the attention.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I don't want people telling me that we're in their
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: prayers but judging our marriage and guessing how each of
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: us failed. I just want it all to go away.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Thank you for reading this. If anyone else has gone
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: through something like this and has had their marriage survive,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from you. I could use some
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: optimism about now, and there isn't edit.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: But what do you think your wife sucks?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think honestly, I understand that you want to
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: keep this, you know, marriage together because of your faith
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: for sure. However, I do just want to point out
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: something you clearly cannot get over this right now at least. Yeah,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: seems like this is really rightly so affecting you. You
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: can't even you know, have any like physical stuff going
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: on with your wife because of what she did. She
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: wants to keep the baby, which I think personally she
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: has a right to. Of course, she's carrying this baby,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: it's her kid. She has a right to want to
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: keep it. You don't, and I feel like that those
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: are at odds, And if you don't she does.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Then maybe I don't think you need to be raising
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: this baby. With her.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. There's yeah, you have no obligation
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: to this baby.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: The other dude does. The other she does, and so
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: does she, and the other dude deserves to know that
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: it's his baby.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Big time, big time. Yeah. So I feel like at
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: this point maybe marriage is not strong enough to survive this.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: But there is an edit. Thank you to everyone for
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: your replies. I'm going to go ahead and see if
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I can meet with an attorney tomorrow and find out
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: what I need to do to ensure that I won't
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: be financially responsible for the child. I expect that she
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: will probably be angry and see this as some sort
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: of power move to force her into adoption. It's clear
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to me that I could not be happy raising another
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: man's child. It's just too much to ask. I plan
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to talk to her and tell her that while I
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: forgive her for the adultery itself, the marriage is doomed.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: We're at an impasse where one of us has to
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: lose in order for the other one to win. There
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: is no half baby. It's all in or all out,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: which I think is true. Yeah. Moreover, it isn't fair
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: to deny the father's child the chance to know he's
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: a father, or the child a chance to know who
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: his father is. I don't personally fault him for what happened.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know him, he doesn't know me. I question
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: his morals in sleeping with the married woman, but it
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: isn't as if he had any duty or pledged loyalty
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: to me. It's my wife I should be angry with.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: If anything, I can't even manage that. I just want
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: to get this over with and move forward. Thanks again,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: everyone I guess I'm looking for. And there is an
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: update truthfully. Yep, he's taking this really well.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: He's taking it really well.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, I'm not going to be married to
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: this guy. I don't know him.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he seems like he's on the right track
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: and kind of said everything you said.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I think you're doing great, dude, and it's
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: a really terrible situation. But I think that don't listen
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: to your priest's advice about staying in this marriage. Like you,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: guys made a promise and she broke that promise. Therefore
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: you are no longer held to that promise.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Update.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I've spoken to a good friend and attorney about it
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: this morning and he has offered to represent me and
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: work with me on cost I'm deciding to move forward
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: with initiating divorce. As I've said, I have forgiven her
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: for what she did, but I've also realized that forgiveness
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that it would be healthy for either of
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: us to remain in the marriage. I can't raise this child.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I don't blame the child, but I know that I
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: would resent it every day. But there is a little
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: bit left to this story, any final.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I have no more thoughts. I think he's right on track.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Get a new priest agreed.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Opie seems like a genuinely good guy, and I think
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: he was. Even at the beginning of it, you could
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: tell he was just like he was taking a lot
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: of the brunt of like, no, I can't blame.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: He took all the blame for something he didn't He
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: didn't do anything.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, literally, he was just a good husband.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like, I'm sorry, I can't love you,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: like as if it was his fault, as if he
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: did that. But OPI not your fault, not at all.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: But there is a little bit left. Even if my
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: wife agreed to adoption, I know that she would resent
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: me for pressuring her to do it. The fact is
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: she has made her choice emotionally. We both know what
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: she wants the outcome to be, and the best thing
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I can do for both of us in the long
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: term is to stick to my puput. If I'm able
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: to get an annulment through the church, fantastic. If not,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: so be it. I've got a hard time believing that
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: God will not forgive me for this. Yeah, I think
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: you're all right. You're good for now. My attorney has
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: advised me not to tell my wife and instead collect
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: all evidence I have of the affair. First. I'd like
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: to believe that my wife wouldn't try to destroy the evidence,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: but given what has happened and what is at stake,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to take the chance. I'll speak to
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: her sometime this week and we'll ask her to leave,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: and that is the end of that story. Folks. But
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I think you are on the right track. O. Yeah.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Does the church like because I know nothing about this, Guys,
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: if he can prove cheating, will they like give him
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: an annulment instead of a divorce? Yeah?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: In some cases you can do that.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Because it's like she broke the vows that she promised yeah.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: That is an option.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: It's not like every I just didn't know if that
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: was like a thing that happens sometimes.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I think that you can get an annuyment in depending
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: on the church that you belong to.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Maybe not with that priest.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don't know about that priest. Red bull Rana says,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: the baby is all the evidence you need, my guy.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: True.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, being like rude, do you have proof of unaffair?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: You go, well, here's when.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: We got married, here, here's the way work, here's the DNA,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: and here's mine don't match.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I think that's pretty solid proof. But we've got another story,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: folks who coming ride up.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: I snitched on my mother's married boyfriend and lost everything.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: That's their fault.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: My mother started having an affair with a married man, Bruce,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: over ten years ago. My dad left her over it,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: but she stayed with Bruce with the promise of him
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: divorcing his wife soon. Spoiler alert, it never happened. By
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: the way, this comes from Throwaway My Life, And if
• 25:39
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• 25:41
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• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I'm Carly, I'm Sophia.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: And I and we're here to give good advice, Goofi ye,
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: but we don't have all the answers.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: We only know what we do, So let us know
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: what you would do in the comments and Op says.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: After ten plus years of knowing my mother was the
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: other woman, and after stalking Bruce's wife's socials, I couldn't
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: take it anymore. He's a creepy man that no one
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: in my family can stand, including my three other siblings.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: We've been tasked all these years to keep her dirty
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: secret and treat Bruce as if he's not an adulterer.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: That is insane. I took one for the team and
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: sent some anonymous emails out to some contacts I found
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: through social media. Bruce's wife responded to me and asked
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: to speak, as she had no idea any of this
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: was going on, which I highly suspected despite Bruce's lies
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: all these years. So I sat down and phoned her.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: We talked for almost three hours. She's a nice woman
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: who was nothing but kind to me. She's been married
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: to Bruce for thirty years. OHO had no idea he
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: had a double life. His job allows him to travel frequently.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: I answered all her questions during this conversation, though I
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: knew my relationship with my mother was over.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Which you know, that's not your fault. Your mother was
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: asking you to keep such a terrible secret of her
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: own wrongdoings ten years. That's not a good relationship anyway.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew the details would get back to her
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: and would pinpoint to me. Bruce's wife thanked me over
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: and over and shared she would be divorcing Bruce once
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: she got her finances in order. It was a very
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: emotional conversation, and I'll never forget the sound of her
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: cries as I told her all the details.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: That's just crazy. Ten years of cheating on your partner,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: like you're a psychopath. Yeah.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: The next day I was completely cut off from my mother.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: I had no way of contacting her, and shortly after
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: that the intimidation from members of my family came, flooding
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: in messages of disgust towards me and support towards my mother.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Everyone turned on me and will no longer speak to me.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine she's telling them the truth of what
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: I did. I told on her married boyfriend. I'm shocked
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: my family has chosen her side and abandoned me. Sometimes
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: regret washes over me but in the end, all I
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: did was speed up the inevitable, and I did it
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: for my siblings who couldn't stand his presence anymore. I
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: thought it would get rid of him, but it backfired.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Not only are Bruce and my mother getting married, but
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: my siblings chose her side and have cut me off.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: This weighs heavy on my chest. It did for the
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: last ten years, and now because of what I did,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: it will continue. Thanks for reading and letting me get
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: it out. And we haven't edit, but I mean, oh pee.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: When you do something like that, there will be consequences. However,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: that does not mean that you shouldn't.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Do it, and I think that there was a positive
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: consequence of his.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Wife wife wife probably really thanks you for really know that.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So even though you lost a toxic relationship with
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: your mother, you say that other woman from.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're gonna be around a lot better. You're
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: gonna find a lot better people. We're not gonna want
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: to keep secrets like this and force you to keep
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: those secrets and side with adult you know, cheaters.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Edit.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Thank you to all the supportive comments. I have a
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: few people in my corner rooting for me, but these
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: comments have been comforting and therapeutic. The number of family
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: that turned on me. I truly started to worry I
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: was the problem and made a mistake to answer some questions.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Money is a huge factor in all of this, which
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: is why my mother and siblings are so angry and
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: not thinking me. I am my mother's oldest daughter. Only
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: my youngest sibling lives with her. We are all adults.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I have two young children. My mother has thrown to
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: the curb for Bruce. They will never know who she is.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: I am in contact with the wife. She is a
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: lovely woman who is aware of how this all unfolded
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: and has been so kind to me. I like to
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: think in another life you would be friends. I mean
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: be friends in this life, dude. I've spent a lot
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: of time putting together proof for her so she can
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: get what she deserves out of the divorce. Keeping in
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: touch with the wife angered Bruce and my mother so
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: much that they told my family I was pestering the wife. Wow,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: that fueled the fire more for my family to hate me.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, if there's anyway that you can be like, hey,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: here's proof, here's my good relationship with the wife. She's
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: pretty thankful, pretty grateful that I sent this to her.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: To the few that have commented, I should have minded
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: my own business, I wish this never was my business.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: What a laugh. She made it your business when she
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: told you that you had to keep the secret for
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: ten years.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: With some relevant comments. Comment to one, Wait, why is
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: she mad? If you didn't tell the adulterer would still
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: be married and wouldn't be marrying your mom. Shouldn't she
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: be thanking you unless he never intended to marry your
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: mom and even she knows this lol. Commenter two. I'm
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: willing to bet the mom is pissed because Bruce stands
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: to lose a lot of assets and will possibly have
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: to pay alimony. Hard to say for sure, since we
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: don't know the details of Bruce's marriage, but money is
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: the only thing I can imagine being the reason he
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: didn't leave his wife earlier, and why mom would be
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: so mad. I'm no legal expert, but this is my
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: best guest, and op said bingo yeah. Commenter three, why
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: isn't your mother happy about what you did? She finally
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: got the man that will cheat on his wife. Crazy
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: that this woman's like, I can't wait to marry the
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: man that Yeah, he was married, cheated with me?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, how could you tell his wife?
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And now he's marrying me. I'm so upset at you.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: I wonder how shocked she'll be when she chats her.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Someone else, probably person.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Opi says she feels I betrayed her. I'm sure,
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: and I've ended her lavish lifestyle with his money. Commenter four,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: why not reach out to a relative to see what
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: story your mom is telling telling them? I think you're
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: right to suspect she is telling a very slanted version
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: of events. Opie says, I tried with many of them.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: They won't tell me. And where's Opie's dad and all
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: of this? Opie says, not a good relationship with him,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: and he's annoyed. I did this, thinks I cause drama.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Some additional information from OPI after reading comments. Opie says,
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: my family still won't talk to me. It's been almost
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: six months of no contact for my mom. I have
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: tried many times to reach out. As far as I know,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Bruce and my mother are still wanting to get married.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: They're waiting on their divorces. I talked to Bruce's wife Monthly,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: who is still devastated by all of this, and she
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: continues to be nothing but kind to me. She's expressed
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: her desire to meet in person to thank me. She
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: hired a forensic lawyer and found twenty two hidden credit
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: card Oh.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Dad, he keeps getting worse.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know about you.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: But I'm feeling twenty two counts of credit card fraud.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Yoicks.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: I helped her build a timeline with all evidence I had,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: so she'll be getting what she deserves from the divorce. Yeah,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: it's been hard without my family, but I have to
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: hold on to the fact that I helped the stranger
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: and stayed true to my own morals. I know I
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: did the right thing. You did.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: You literally you have solid proof that you did, because
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: this woman is coming to you and.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Saying yeah, thank you, over and over yeah.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: And finding out more and more information. So you absolutely
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: did the right thing.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: And I love that you're helping her with her It's.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Like, Okay, Mom, fine, bye, I'm gonna ruin your new
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: husband financially. Have fun, deal with it, my mom.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Update fourteen point five months later, Okay, I told on
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: my mom's married boyfriend and ruined my life. One point
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: five year later, update, it has been eighteen months since
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I blew my family life up by tattling on my
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: mother for being the other woman for twelve plus years,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: so it was even longer than ten eighteen months of
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: a smear campaign against me that has turned all of
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: my family except one sister and close family friends against me,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: even my grandparents who basically raised me. Bruce's wife and
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: I still keep in touch every few months. She has
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: gone through way worse than I have. Her life was
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: a lie, and she struggles daily to comprehend everything that
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: has happened. I feel so much shame that my mother
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: is half responsible for this woman's heartbreak. She still has
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: been nothing but kind to me. The big question that
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: remained unanswered for eighteen months, why did my family alienate me?
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: What lie did my mother and Bruce tell that made
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: them not even give me a chance to speak? The
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: truth is that I told on my mom's married boyfriend
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: and blew up their vacation mode relationship. But we all
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: know that couldn't be what she was telling people. Every
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: night I would lay awake wondering what it was that
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: was said about me, and I finally got the answer
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: a year and a half later. My mother told everyone
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: that I was a substance regular user.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so crazy when people who do
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: bad things like this, yeah, have to make up these
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: outrageous lies because other they know that no one would
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: defend their action.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: It's still crazy to me that despite your whole family
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: getting that lie, none of them.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Like I'm checked, one of them checked. Yeah, we should go.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Help you, that I was effective cognitively from substance use.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: None of you know me, but I am not a
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: substance regular user. My family believed that lie without question,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: because who would lie on their own child like that.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: She had to say a lie so far from the
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: truth that no one would question her.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: So there it is.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: The damage is done from all ends. Also, don't you
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: have a sister that's still talking to you though? How
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: is she not going back?
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: She said that she had one sister on her side still.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how that sister's not. Like Ah, guys,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: the oldest sister's fond.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: When my family thinks I'm a substance regular user, and
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: I'll never forgive my family for believing that and turning
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: on me. I pled with so many of them. I
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: sent them the entire story from start to finish, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: no one broke and came to my side. I will
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: never forgive my mother. So much has happened these past
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: eighteen months and it's all her fault. She almost broke me.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: But thankfully I have an amazing family of my own.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: I created a husband and two daughters and amazing in laws.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: My sister and I have never been closer. We are
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: healing together. The only thing I wish now is for
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: my mother to stop smearing me. My husband deployed for
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: six months, and she actively lied on me to people
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: that would come and help me during that time to
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: try to isolate me further. There is no limit to
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: her mental torment. My mother will always be my biggest bully.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Going no contact with a narc parent is so hard.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Don't let any old hag out there and tell you
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: it's their first time living too, it's your parent. At
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, I am her child, and
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: she chose an ugly balding man over me and two
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: amazing granddaughters. Will always be her loss. Thanks again for
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: letting me get it off my chest. There's a little
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: bit more some comments.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: But I'm sorry. There's just I think even if my
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: mom goes around and tells a little family like, hey, yeah,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: don't listen to whatever Sophia says, she's got a substance, right,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: hey problem. My family would absolutely, I would.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Hope, immediately communitly go to me and.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Be like, are you okay?
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: What help can we get you? I know you have kids?
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Do we need to get them somehow?
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: But none of that. I wouldn't forgive them either. I'd
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: be like, wow, you not only believed my mother, you
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: also didn't even check up on.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Me, right? How it like only one sister coming out
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: to be like and what really happen?
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Crazy? Yeah weleven't comments commenter one, Wow, the way you
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: were treated is absolutely horrible. I do not blame you
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: for having resentment against your family members who abandon you
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: like that. Do you still have a relationship with your
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: father and his side of your family? Opie says. My
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: father was upset at me at first because it caused
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: a lot of headache for him. He and my mother
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: were only separated, not divorced. He didn't want to give
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: up his pension, and he was also told the BS version.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: So it honestly took about a year to get him
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: to truly understand the truth. We've never had a great relationship,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: but we are growing closer now. Comment or two says,
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: have a lawyer send her a cease and assist letter.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: It's a great idea.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, say like hey slander yeah.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Bible stating if she does not stop lying, there will
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: be a lawsuit. Opie says, I'm a stay at home mom.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Bruce has got a lot more money than me, and
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: there's an added layer of complication with me living in
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Canada and Bruce and now my mother living in the U.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: S I think about it all the time though, and
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: OPI on are the divorces finalized for the mother and
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Bruce and have they gotten married? Opie says divorces for
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: both of them have only just finalized, so no, not yet,
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: but only a matter of time, especially with her trying
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: to reside in the US with him when we are
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: from Canada. And Opie responding to a downvoted commenter about
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: if Bruce's ex wife deserve to know what happened. Yeah,
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Opie says, you don't think Bruce's wife had a right
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: to know. When this all started, my youngest sibling was six.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: We have been dealing with this for twelve plus years,
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: and I couldn't take it anymore. Yes, I thought they
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: would break up. No, I don't regret telling.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no you should. You literally helped her and she
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: thanked you, so clearly you did the right thing. Yeah,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: but that is the end of that story. And we've
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: got another one. Come right up. My married friend confessed
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: his attraction to me runaway. I hate that I'm here,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: but this has been messing with my head. My friend
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: twenty six male and I twenty five female, have been
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: friends since the sixth grade. We've always been pretty close.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: He asked me out once or twice in high school,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: but I said no once or twice, mostly because I
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to date. By the way, this comes from
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Clementine eighteen twelve. And if you want to submit your
• 40:22
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• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I'm Sophia, I'm Carly, and I'm Keon, and we're here
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: to give good advice. Goofully, But we don't have all
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: the answers. We only know what we'd do, So let
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: us know what you would do in the comments, and
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: op says there was never any romantic implication of interest
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: after that. Fast forward to now, we've both been married
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: for about two years, attended each other's weddings. I hang
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: out with his wife regularly. He hangs out with my
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: husband regularly. We go on double dates. It's always been
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: super fun and normal. He and his wife have been
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: open with my husband and me that they are hoping
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: to have kids next year. A few nights ago, my
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: friend and I were both up late texting, which isn't
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: unusual for us since we've been friends for a decade
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: and a half. He generally works the graveyard shift at
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: his job, and I've had insomnia my whole life. We
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: were talking about a show we both like, and I
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, dude, you need to see my new
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: themed after the show sweatpants had just got and sent
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: him a photo just at the sweats because I was
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: wearing them. He then asked if there was a matching shirt,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: to which I said nope, and he asked me to
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: show what top I was wearing anyway, simmer down, buddy,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: why simmer down married? It wasn't appropriate, so I declined.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Now at that point, that's like a full on converce.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: That's not just like a.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: No, that's like what are you doing.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I'm going to marry I'm going to talk to my
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: husband about this and your wife, why did you think
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: that was an acceptable comment to make? Back in twenty eighteen,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I went through a really rough breakup this is relevant,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: bear with me, and was just generally making a lot
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: of crappy decisions, one of which directly impacted him. I
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: don't have any memory of this, although I believe him,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: but he randomly brought up that I sent him a
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: certain type of photo back then and that he rode
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: that high for a month. He told me this after saying, well,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: it's not like I haven't already seen it. And that's
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: when we stop the friendship and say, oh, sorry, can't
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: be friends with you anymore because you keep violating boundaries.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: That's so icky, And asked me again to share what
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: top I was wearing, and again I said no. At
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: that point, he told me that he's essentially been in
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: love with me since middle school and that he's happy
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: in his marriage and knows I'm happy in mine, but
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: that he's always wondered deep down what would have happened
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: if we got together?
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: Did oh tell your wife that? Did tell your wife that?
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: Right now?
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: It threw me for a loop. I've never had any
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: indication of this, or maybe I'm just oblivious, And he
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: went on to tell me how much he's fantasized about
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: me and things like that. Ah ah. I didn't want
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: things to get more awkward than they were. So it
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: was a lot of that's crazy, dude.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: No, it's a lot of Hey, I have your wife's
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: phone number.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I'm texting your wife. Yeah, it shouldn't just be dang it,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: that's crazy. Yeah. The next day he texted me and
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: asked how I was doing, but I told him I
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: felt a little weird and that he had come very
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: close to cross the line. But cross its What do
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: you mean crossed it?
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: He fully crossed.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Across that line, danced over that line? What are you
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: talking about?
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Op?
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: If I was Ope's partner and found out that Op's
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: friend had sent this to her and she didn't tell me,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: oh oh, I'd be like, oh, sorry, what do you mean?
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: That line wasn't crossed? That rot?
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: What's the line from surfs up?
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Step Tommy Step Dommy. He was practically dancing on me.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: That's what you were doing on that line? Nice, he said.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: He agreed and apologized and said he didn't want anything
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: to change in our marriages or our friendship too freaking bad.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: I guarantee you if Opie said no, let's do it, Yeah,
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: he'd be like, let's do that, urge.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: You can be okay.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Do you think that the wife knows that OPI had
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: previously sent him a photo in their past?
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. And to just leave it that night
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: and move on, y'all? Are both the a holes now
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: to your partners?
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Tbh? I agreed, And then to end the conversation, he
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: told me that if I ever wanted to hear more
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: about his private thoughts about me, to let him.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: Know he's still He's on the other side.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: This is you, this is you. The line he's been
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: over here for the whole story.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: He went past you over here.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, if you ever want to hear about
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: my thoughts, and you're like trying to talk to him
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: over here, but he's behind you. He has passed this line.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: He's behind me, isn't He's right behind me?
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Is any Obviously I don't plan to take him up
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: on that, but I don't really know how to move
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: forward with this information. Hell, your husband, husband, I still
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: really value the friendship. He's one of my longest lasting friends.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I've never been in a situation like this. That's not true,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: and it's weird. I'd love to get some advice you
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: have been a situation like this, because he's done it before.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: And also he fully just threw away this friendship. It
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: wasn't like he is ending it. And you know, I.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Really said that he's done this once or twice, which
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: you know how many times he's done it, it's probably
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: three times. Yeah, we're being honest, So you already know
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: that he'd probably do this again, or you know that
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: he felt like this.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: At this point, I'm thinking you have the same feeling
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: and they want this to go that way.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: If you sent him something allegedly.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Also not gonna lie. Even before we went on the
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: fact that the way she described the pajama pants photo,
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: I was already immediately like, that's weird. Yeah, even my
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: guy friends that I've had for ten plus years would
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: never get a picture of the pants.
• 46:00
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• 46:02
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• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Sponsors comment one must be really weird thinking of him
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: alone in his bedroom, thinking of you. Personally, I had
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: step back from late night texting, as it would appear
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: this just seems to encourage him, and as you're both married,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I put strict boundaries up so he's clear exactly where
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: you stand. I literally would tell him that he needs
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: to tell his wife he loves you.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, tell your husband, and then together you guys can
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: all go tell the white Yay yay reply.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I really don't understand how some people are so naive
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: that they think that doing this is just innocent and normal.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: There is one person who I text late at night,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: and that is my girlfriend reply. I text my brother
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: and sister in law late. I text my cousin late,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: and I text several of my friends, both men and
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: women late. I'm a night owl, so are some of
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: the people in my circle. I also have four kids,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: so focusing on conversations at normal times is next to impossible.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: There are plenty of reasons to text night that aren't
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: trying to f someone. I agree with that, I will say,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think the time is the problem. Yeah, it's
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: the content.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Those conversations could be more like catching up or planning stuff,
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: not Yes, show me what your top looks like.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the time has really nothing to do with it.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: It's the content of the message. Yeah, comment too, he
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: definitely crossed a line. Reply says right, I'm just sitting
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: here like, how did he not cross a line? He's
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: openly inviting her to have an affair, and the only
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: reason it hasn't gone there is because OPI declined his
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: blatant invitations to spicy text a mess waiting to happen.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: If either spouse finds out about this on their own,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: it's gonna blow up in both of their faces. Reply says,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I was curious what the line is in Op's mind?
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Such an unfair place for her to be put in,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: and she still didn't want to hurt his feelings. She
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: let him down, assured him he didn't cross the line,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: told him how much she valued him. Gently. Letting a
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: guy down means in his mind that it's okay to
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: keep going. It will happen again. Yeah, dang, that's crazy.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Isn't shutting someone down? He is hoping OPI is curious
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: and if she keeps him in her life, he will
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: try and try again until she forces it to stop.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Such an unfair position for a friend to put someone in.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: And edit from Ope for clarity, because I wrote this
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the night when I was exhausted.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I'm frequently up late at night. This wasn't some weird,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: one off, sneaky thing. I work long days, so most
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: of my interactions with people happen at night. When I
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: was eighteen and twenty eighteen, I was kind of throwing
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: myself at everyone. My friend wasn't special.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Lol.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: There's never been any indication of interest from him since
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: high school until a few nights ago. He is not
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: repeatedly said things like this, and I had honestly forgotten
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: he'd even asked me out in high school until this conversation.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: You said he does repeatedly do this. Also, I just
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: realized that OPI is my age. She was eighteen and
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: twenty eighteen.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: That's my age.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: I'm like, how are you I'm doing this at this
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: right age of mid twenties.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I have never seen him as more than a friend,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: despite my crazy phase as an eighteen year old. I
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: don't really care, Ope, because he sees you as more
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: than a friend, and you're not putting a stop to it,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: so it doesn't really matter what you think. Yes, he
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: did ask me out in high school. Most high school
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: crushes don't last a full lifetime. And since he never
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: brought it up again after high school, even when I
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: was vulnerable, I trusted him. This all happened over Snapchat?
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Why of course it did.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Of course it did, which is the main way I
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: communicate with everyone. Weird. I'm calling all Snapchat users, including
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: my many multiple friends. You use Snapchat.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: I use Snapchat, but not to have your conversation weird.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: You want to know what I use it for? To
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: snapchat the man sitting over.
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: There, Oh, I like seeing videos of my cat.
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: I said, a videos of hi, and like maybe some
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: high school like my best friend met Home sends me
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: videos for her Safari job.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are weird.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: I would never have a conversation.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: Main form of communication. I don't call on Snapshet'd be like,
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: all right, right, I wouldn't have.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: A conversation there. To be honest, the only reason I
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: haven't gotten rid of it fully is because the memory experts, Okay,
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: you can use it, no, but I'm with you that
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: it's this is weird.
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: Weird Using snapshot is your main form of communication is weird.
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: That's just a weird.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Flag And the fact that this happened over snapchat makes
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: it like so much sketchy, worse.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: So much worse. Yeah, I do agree with that. So
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately none of the conversation is there anymore so suspicious,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: which I do feel bad about being the case. I
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: should have been clearer with that in my original post. Apologies. Yikes,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: the photo of my sweatpants was close enough you could
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: only see the fabric pattern. If that's something that would
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: turn you on, perhaps my situation isn't where your main
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: focus should be. My friend and I have not spoken
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: since that second conversation, and the more time that passes,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: the ick year. I feel about it and don't desire
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: for the situation to happen again, and plan to enforce
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: stricter boundaries with my friends when I feel comfortable enough
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: to initiate contact with him. Yes, I should have shut
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: it down rather than let him keep talking, but I
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: also avoid awkward situations like the plague, and was reeling
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: from realizing one of my longest friendships wasn't what I
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: thought it was. As for telling my husband, while I
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: normally would agree and we do have excellent communication, I
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: genuinely don't think i'd want to know if he was
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: in this situation. If he also wasn't reciprocating, I'm worried
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: it will just cause unnecessary anxiety and drama. I have
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: no plans of leaving my husband bad bad.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: He might want to know. Also, that's good communication would
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: be telling him, Yeah, most definitely tell them I'm.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Sorry causing a necessary drama. His friend and your friend
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: mutual friends just confessed love to you. Yeah, yeah, that's
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: something he needs to know. What do you mean, Oh, p,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: you're an ahle too. You guys are both the ale.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: This is everyone sucks here.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: I should say, we're not giving that much crap to
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: the other guy, but that's because it's like we know
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: that he's like, he's so clearly in the wrong. Yeah,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: we're also just now saying like, dude, tell your husband.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, Dutch just Becazana says, Okay, so the
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: photo is less weird now. I do agree with that update.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I talked to my husband about it. I really all
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: the comments were like, dude, what are you talking about?
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Talk to your husband, talk your your husband. You told
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: me it was weird, but seemed like a complimentary thing
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: from the guy and to shut things down fast if
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: it ever happens again. My hesitation with telling my husband
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: was exactly this. You didn't really want to hear about it.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: I don't like you.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: I mean sure, if he doesn't want to hear you
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: said you wouldn't want to hear. Maybe that's your guys's
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: relationship and that's how it works. Maybe you did no
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: better on that front, but ultimately, had this happened again,
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: I think it's good that this isn't his first time
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: hearing about it, and he can already have the information
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: that he needs to help you however you need. And
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: it's not like oh and by the way, like also
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: too much to go this happens.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: He's been in love with me and I didn't really
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: tell him to stop saying that.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Right. I feel like maybe you spun the story to
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: your husband a little bit, but at least he knows.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I don't like that.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: Does the other guy's wife know yet?
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: Is she okay with important?
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like y'all are friends with all
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: of them?
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: She Opie said that she was friends with the wife.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I'd be devastated to learn that my friend knew that
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: my partner confessed love to her, right, And then she
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: didn't tell me, I'd be devastated.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: It's a hard conversation, but it needs to happen.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Ysked if I felt the same way, which I do not,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: then asked if I was planning to hook up with
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: my friend. I said no, and he said cool. Well, uh,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I want you didn't have to tell me about all that,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: but I'm sorry you put you in that position before
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: you salty people have another heyday. Yes, I was honest
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: with them and told them everything.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: We've also discussed boundaries that both of us will be
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: enforcing moving forward. The guy told me he talked to
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: his wife about it.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Good okay.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: She reached out to me, asking me out for coffee
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: to discuss further, which we will be doing tomorrow. I
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: don't think I'll be posting any more updates, but thank
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: you to everyone who provided helpful advice. Sorry to everyone
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: who has enjoyed tearing a stranger to shreds, and I
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: hope your day improves significantly.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: That's the end of that story.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: It's wild behavior crazy.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: I need to see if there's an update.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like kind of shocked, how there everyone in this
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: freaking story has been about everything? Are y'all still friends?
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Great that he told her husband. Eventually, well, are we
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: still gonna be friends with the guy who said that
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: he's in rew with you?
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: We're just like okay with.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: This and he's just gonna wait around until you change
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: your mind. I don't understand y'all.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: And are we still talking over Snapchat? Yes?
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: And are we still talking over snapchat?
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: Maybe we should be switching to texting if clearly the
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: photos can't be controlled.
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't want to jump to anything. Okay, there's
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: no updates.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Oh do you think it's like a swapperoo white swap.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: The white day?
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Like, oh you think the other wife is fine with it?
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: And once like yes, exactly, Like no, I'm into this,
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: Like we're all into this except for you.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she just didn't know.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Boy man, she was into it. She didn't really seem
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: that concerned.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: No, no one seemed concerned about anything. And I don't
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: understand them, but I guess good for you guys. But
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: we're going to get into this next story.
• 55:24
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• 56:10
  Speaker 4: anyone who has been to Italy knows that if you
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: are a beautiful woman, you will get looked at by
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: so many men, including married men holding hands with their partners. Okay,
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: I haven't been there Italy.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: It's like just really for most women, it's just they're
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: like they just shout at you as you're walking by,
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: and they're like beautiful, like one chawbela, yeah, yeah, and
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: like where are you from? Well, like me and my
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: friend when we were there, like we're walking, He's like,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: where are you from? And we don't respond, where are
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: you from? And we're like Jesus. And then when I
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: was in a club in Italy, some like like grabbed
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: my arm and I was like no, and he was
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: like trying to talk to me and I was like no,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: and they got to push it.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so they're they aren't forward in Italy, forward in Italy,
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: chow Bela.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: I am from the United States, so I am absolutely
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: clueless about the culture here. And this is my main
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: reason for posting, because I need advice from people who
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: understand this culture. Maybe you guys can Underson.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I understand the culture, but I'll.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: Give that much poet. I met a man who owned
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: a restaurant near my hostel, and I have been eating
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: there three or more times a week because the food
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: was incredible and the price was amazing. The owner started
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: giving me free food because I was returning so often,
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: and it blossomed into a really nice friendship between me
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: and his staff. He would invite me to private dinners
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: with his staff in the back, and I bonded with
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: all of them. To the point where I have all
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: their contacts on WhatsApp, a much more reasonable app than Snapchat.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, everyone uses that when you're bad.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: I can't lie when I say I really liked the
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: owner beyond friends, and he looked young enough that I
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: didn't think he would have a wife and kids, maybe
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: a girlfriend. But this guy looked like he was in
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: his mid to late twenties. I'm twenty two. Although I
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: never asked, he was always flirting with me in front
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: of everyone, so I assumed he was single. Bad assumption.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: I know, I'm a dumb American.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Lol.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: He asked me out on a date a month ago
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: and I said yes immediately after knowing him for a week.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Very soon for me, but some of the girlfriends I
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: have met in the hospital told me this is slow
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: for an Italian man. I'm not sure, but I decided
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: to take things very slow. The dates we went on
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: were magical, and I am not delusional. I saw him
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: as a summer fling, but that didn't stop feelings from
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: creeping in. We went to Spas, the beach, small beautiful
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: towns outside of Florence, and many lovely excursions, but we
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: never went anywhere private until yesterday. First of all, I
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: didn't want to go anywhere private, and I know Italian
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: men can be quick to want intimacy, but he was
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: the opposite. We had been intimate a few times in
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: locations I don't want to talk about, but intimacy is
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: incredibly personal to me because I had only had it
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: four times before him. Second, I'm staying in a six
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: bed hostel room. Yeah, so I was not inviting anyone
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: over and I never wanted to go over to his
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: place for my own safety.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: I just want to say real quick, Yeah, people in
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: hostels are crazy. I never had an experience.
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: Sometimes I've made some great friends through hostel Oh no.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: No, To be clear, I had across the board excellent
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: experiences in hostels. I don't I'm not saying that everyone
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: in a hostel is crazy.
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: But I've heard a lot of hostels.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: But and this never happened to me personally. I have
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: like long term friends still from hostels. But my friend,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: this long term friend told me that in one of
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: the hostels that she was staying in, someone was having
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: a minels flaw.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: In the room.
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: That's crazy.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: There are people, I was going to say, I was
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: going to.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: Say, not the Minaja Twa, but there were people in
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: our hostel who were doing it in the room. It
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: was the last night for us for our group, but
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: we were like, did everyone hear that last night? Did
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: everyone sleep okay? And everyone's like no, we all woke
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: go y yeah.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No. People think they're sneaky. There's a curtain separating it.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: I think they're definitely into it.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a big red flag I now realize,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: but at the time I didn't ask many questions about
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: his personal life. His English is not great, so it's
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: hard to engage in deep conversations on to what happened yesterday.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: He asked me to come over to his apartment after work.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: I agreed and we went there. When we arrived, it
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: was a gorgeous place with lots of beautiful greenery and flowers.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: I immediately asked him why he never invited me over,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: since I make it very obvious to everyone I meet
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: that I love gardens and nature. He brushed that comment
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: off by saying he wanted to take me out to explore.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: When we got inside, it was everything I expected for
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: a young restaurant owner, beautifully decorated, not rich by any means,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: but definitely not cheap either. He took me upstairs and
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: I immediately saw children's toys and froze. No. I asked
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: him whose toys they were, and he did not hesitate
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: to tell me he has children, which it's not I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: could divorce.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah so true, or just yeah find out. I was shocked.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Once again. I don't know anything about Italian culture, but
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: it came as a surprise because neither he nor anyone
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: from the restaurant had ever mentioned his kids to me.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: I asked him if he has a wife, and once
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: again he did not lie to me. I was in
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: tears immediately and told him to take me home.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: Yikes. He really was just like. She was like, do
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: you have kids? Who was like, she was like, do
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: you have a wife? He's like me, is that not obvious?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 7: That's crazy?
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: And I'm not from Italy, but I feel like that
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: is still bad.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: It is still bad.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's an Italian culture thing. I think
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: that's still cheating, he said, and I quote, why go home?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: She is gone for ten months, so it doesn't matter.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: As I can kept crying. I told him how wrong
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: it was to do everything he did, spending money on me.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: That should be going to his wife and kids and
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: doing things his wife would most likely dislike. He showed
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: me to his bedroom for tissues, and that's when I
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: saw her. A wedding picture on the wall with a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: butcher was there. Yeah, gorgeous Iranian woman who looked like
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: she could be a model. I'm a beautiful, blonde young
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: woman with tattoos, but this woman was seriously breathtaking, me
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: beautiful and is way prettier than me. I continue to
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: ask him many questions about his wife, kids and why
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: he never told me. We both started using translators at
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: this point because the language barrier made it hard for
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: him to understand me. Here is everything I asked. Why
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: wouldn't your wife be upset about you having another woman?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Jess the mother? I have a children and nothing more.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: Why would you cheat on your beautiful wife when I
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: am half as beautiful?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: She is as ugly than you know. This photo was
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: from the Bibe years ago.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: That doesn't make it okay to sheat But how would
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: she feel about this?
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  Speaker 2: She and I never see Chather.
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  Speaker 4: We have kids together, then shouldn't you be spending your
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  Speaker 4: money on your kids and not me.
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  Speaker 2: About my children?
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  Speaker 4: At my job How did you expect me to be
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  Speaker 4: okay with this?
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  Speaker 2: If you want to go, we gonna go.
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  Speaker 4: At this point, I was in full flowing tears and
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  Speaker 4: he took me back to the hospital.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how to do an Italian accent.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy is so not apologetic. He's like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, she's just my wife. She is you can go.
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  Speaker 2: I can't do that either. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think he just sucked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, he just sucks.
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  Speaker 4: Is an Italian thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you've only known him for a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Is really sucky situation that he puts you in. If
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  Speaker 2: you can find a way to tell his wife this.
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  Speaker 5: Is not your fault. I think he just cut him off.
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  Speaker 5: This was a learning, you know situation. Now, you know,
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  Speaker 5: when you meet a guy, double check. I'm like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: do your kids see your family?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've told the story on the pond, but to
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: a much lesser extent. I was in London with Sam
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  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago and we met these Belgian
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  Speaker 2: boys and one of them was like flirting with me
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  Speaker 2: all night and we exchanged Instagrams and he's like, do
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  Speaker 2: you want to like hang out? Because I was only
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  Speaker 2: there for a week, He's like, do you want to
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  Speaker 2: hang out on these other day? And I look at
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: his Instagram and the first thing him and a girl,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like looking through it, I'm like, I think
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  Speaker 2: he has a girlfriend. And I tell Sam, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I think he has a girlfriend. He's like, well, you
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  Speaker 2: don't know that, like, don't assume blah. And I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 2: I think he has a girlfriend. So I just kind
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  Speaker 2: of like respond nicely, but I'm like, oh, I can't,
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  Speaker 2: I can't hang out. Sorry. And then months later I
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  Speaker 2: get a request from a random girl and I am
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  Speaker 2: like looking at it and like I see the little
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  Speaker 2: blurb of the message, and I accept. And it's basically
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  Speaker 2: her being like what happened with you and this boy?
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  Speaker 2: Or like my boyfriend did anything? Like did he do anything?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Did you guys look up blah blah blah, And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: nothing happened, but he did truck. I just said, like
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  Speaker 2: I only met him once, uh, and nothing happened.
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  Speaker 4: I also liked that he was like she's old and
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  Speaker 4: uglier now and at the beginning we found out they
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  Speaker 4: were like mid to late twenties.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, there's no way that this girl is
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: not like still gorgeous.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't speak a word on the ride home,
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  Speaker 4: but he said sorry, you feel so bad as I
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  Speaker 4: got out of this car. I have no idea what
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  Speaker 4: to do. I'm incredibly distraught, not for myself but for
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: the children and wife, who are most likely clueless to
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: this whole situation. I witnessed my mother's affair as a
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  Speaker 4: very young child and was forced to keep it a
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  Speaker 4: secret until my mom left my dad for her affair partner.
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  Speaker 4: This is really eating at me. I was five when
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  Speaker 4: that all happened, and I assume his kids are that
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  Speaker 4: age or younger. So I feel completely distraught about this
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  Speaker 4: entire situation. Advice is needed because I am so uneducated
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  Speaker 4: on Italian culture in this aspect and have no idea
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  Speaker 4: what to do. I get the end of that.
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  Speaker 2: Story again if you can figure out a way to
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  Speaker 2: tell his wife, but otherwise just block, move on, don't
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  Speaker 2: see this guy again.
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  Speaker 4: Hopefully the comments were already telling you that that's not
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  Speaker 4: it's not your fault.
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  Speaker 5: I think you're also you were like so enamored into
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: the culture and the city itself that you're.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I mean, this can happen anywhere, it.
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  Speaker 5: Can happen anywhere Italian thing exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But we've got some comments from another video. My sister
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  Speaker 2: wants to steal my mom's house and this was posted
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  Speaker 2: September eighteenth, twenty twenty five, and the TLDR says Opie's
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  Speaker 2: sister has always been clear she doesn't like babies and
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  Speaker 2: won't babysit, but his wife kept pushing her boundaries anyway.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: When their babysit are canceled last minute for a fancy
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  Speaker 2: dinner reservation, Opie's wife demanded the sister watch the five
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  Speaker 2: month old and freaked out when she said no. Things
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  Speaker 2: exploded when OPI left at eleven PM to take his
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  Speaker 2: sister to the hospital for an emergency, and his wife
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  Speaker 2: woke up furious that he helped someone who won't help them.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Now she's threatening to leave him unless he completely cuts
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  Speaker 2: off his sister, and OPI is stuck between his wife's
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: ultimatum and his family loyalty. And if you're curious to
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: know the full story, you can go watch the full video.
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  Speaker 2: And we have some comments from that story. And I
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: do remember that one as well.
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  Speaker 5: Common Number one. I think it's by Jody or Yody Yodel,
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  Speaker 5: just because you have a baby, doesn't mean others have
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  Speaker 5: to babysit. Others don't have to do anything for you
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  Speaker 5: if they don't want to. And the sister may be
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: very uncomfortable being responsible for a baby and doesn't know
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: what to do if it's crying, and it could be
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  Speaker 5: dangerous to leave a baby with a person that doesn't
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: want to take care of it. This whole thing is
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: crazy to me. The baby's mom maybe having postpartum depression,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: which may be why she is having a hard time
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  Speaker 5: understanding the sister's point of view and why she is
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: so upset about it. She should seek treatment, agreed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can't force anyone who is not
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  Speaker 2: the parent to babysit your child. Not their responsibility. If
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  Speaker 2: you can't find a person to watch a kid so
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: you can go on your fancy dinner date, then you
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: can't go on your fancy dinner day.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're coming with them. Come on.
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  Speaker 5: I think we need to plan a little bit better there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in this case, I think it was
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  Speaker 2: just like person canceled, Yeah, last minute.
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  Speaker 5: But I think you always need a plan by yeah,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: or a plane.
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  Speaker 4: You at least can't assume that your plan B is
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  Speaker 4: the one that said no already.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, why said I never want a babysit.
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  Speaker 5: Your kids always have a couple other plans after a
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: We have a second comment here by the Sharona ten.
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  Speaker 5: They say it boggles my mind when parents insist of
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  Speaker 5: leaving their kids with someone who does not want to
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  Speaker 5: be around them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't seem like I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah the kids, I got that fun. No, it's gonna
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: be pretty obvious.
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  Speaker 5: And another comment here is like Chris through Glass, I'm
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  Speaker 5: not a kid slash baby person. I would never watch
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: a baby if it wasn't or isn't an emergency. I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: didn't know how to change a diaper, how to feed
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: a baby, how to hold it, how is it supposed
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: to lie, how warm it has to be, how much
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: crying is normal, et cetera. That's their comment. Yeah, that's fair.
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  Speaker 2: Into watching the pay so much that goes into watching
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: a baby. And if you just don't know how to
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: do that and never wanted to learn, yeah, tricky.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: And a last comment here by Taylor Keechu forty six
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  Speaker 5: eighty three. As somebody who's child free, this stuff gets
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: so tiring. So many people are convinced you just never
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: want to be around children or their children could change
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: your mind. I personally do not hate kids. I just
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: don't want them around all the time. I love my
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: nieces and nephews, including my friend's kiddos, I just have
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: never felt the want for them, and I'm even happier
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: with that decision as I get older. I also I
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: am not comfortable holding you borns. I don't hold them
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  Speaker 5: until they're three months old because they are less fragile
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  Speaker 5: by then.
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  Speaker 2: Lowell, Yeah, everyone's got different desires and you know, plans
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: for the life, and you can't force your plan on
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: someone else exactly. But those are the ends of the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: comments and that is the end of the episode. So
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