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Speaker 1: Do you think your offensive line truly stinks? They're not
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Speaker 1: mac Jones will not be practicing today due to an illness.
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Speaker 1: fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome the Patriots unfiltered. It
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Speaker 1: is Tuesday here at Jilts Stadium, and we got a
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Speaker 1: lot to talk about. A little better mood around the
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Speaker 1: building today than last week. It's Deuce, it's tomorrow, it's Paul,
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Speaker 1: it's me, it's Matt in the booth, and we'll be
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Speaker 1: here until two o'clock talking Patriots. Oh man. So it
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Speaker 1: was a relief to get that win. You know, not
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Speaker 1: the prettiest of wins, but anytime you can go on
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Speaker 1: the road in the NFL come home with a win,
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Speaker 1: it's a good day. It's a good it's a good day. Sniff,
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's good. Yeah, Like like winning in Pittsburgh, it's always
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Speaker 1: a good thing, right sure, So, uh yeah, it was.
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Speaker 1: It was you didn't want to come home oh and
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Speaker 1: two and then have to open up your home opener
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Speaker 1: with the Ravens. Oh you've seen so many teams now
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Speaker 1: going through that O and two, Like is it facing
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Speaker 1: that like crisis of conscious right? Oh? Are we out
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Speaker 1: of it already? So I I you know, I wasn't
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Speaker 1: here to moderate the postgame show um, so you know,
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Speaker 1: I my my, My initial thoughts were still the offense
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Speaker 1: is a long way to go. Um. I think Mac
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Speaker 1: talking about confidence, I think he's lacking some at times.
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Speaker 1: I think in the second half there were a few
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Speaker 1: throws where I said, Okay, he can make a quick
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Speaker 1: decision and drive that ball downfield. Now, they weren't the
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Speaker 1: best of throws, but I just like the decisiveness that
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Speaker 1: I saw. And so you know, it's hope there. Offensive
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Speaker 1: line game ball. I mean, I mean when you can
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Speaker 1: close out a game with a six plus minute drive, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, on the road, and you know, finish the
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Speaker 1: game taking a knee, that's that's great. So I think
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Speaker 1: the offensive line played great. I think, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: the receivers, you know, you know, a lot of them
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Speaker 1: had their you know, their opportunities. Wonder what's going on
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Speaker 1: with Parker now more than born. But you know that said,
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Speaker 1: I think Myers had a good game. He's he's definitely
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Speaker 1: turning into his bankie. Tight ends weren't much of a factor,
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Speaker 1: so we got to do something about that. On defense, though,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know another game where I think they
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Speaker 1: had a good game plan going in. I think guys
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Speaker 1: did their jobs, and you know, really it was. If
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Speaker 1: it hadn't been for the offense, it would have been
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Speaker 1: one of those games where I'm like, all right, I
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Speaker 1: feel good about this game right right from the start,
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Speaker 1: Like I'm not worried. You know, we'll get the offense eventually,
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Speaker 1: and you know, it's not like they're gonna kill us.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Steel has had you know, a couple drives there,
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Speaker 1: but it's the NFL teams are going to drive down
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Speaker 1: the field. But but um, you know, I was happy
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Speaker 1: with the defense. Trubisky is Trubisky. They don't have a
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Speaker 1: lot of really explosive weapons like Miami does. So this
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Speaker 1: come week coming up is going to be another good test.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, even a next level test. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: it's unique with Lamar. But I mean, I agree with
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Speaker 1: a lot of what you said. I'm cautiously optimistic on
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Speaker 1: the defense. I feel like, you know, rewatching some of them,
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Speaker 1: and you know, I just I also am torn though,
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Speaker 1: because one, it's beginning of the season and we've seen
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Speaker 1: them play great in the beginning of the season before,
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Speaker 1: and it also hasn't been the most you know, dynamic
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Speaker 1: kind of offenses that they've had had to face. Now. Granted,
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Speaker 1: Miami looks a little bit different after what they did
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Speaker 1: in Week two, a little bit, you know, in terms
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Speaker 1: of the Patriots being able to you know, not give
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Speaker 1: up those kind of big plays. But um, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think the real challenges are coming for the defense.
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Speaker 1: But I just like how they're playing. I like how
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Speaker 1: it's gang tackling, they're winning at the front, that the
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage Dietrich wise has suddenly hit a new
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Speaker 1: level here in year six, which is, you know, amazing
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Speaker 1: to watch. I like that they've taken concrete steps to
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Speaker 1: put mac Wilson in there, and you know, Kyle Dugger
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Speaker 1: at linebacker, and you know, they're not really forcing the
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Speaker 1: issue with Jelani Tavai and Bentley anymore. You know, they're
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Speaker 1: they're playing them a little bit on the edge too.
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Speaker 1: So I like what they're doing. I need to see
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Speaker 1: them against these really good offenses that they have continuing
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Speaker 1: to come. Um. But just as far as the way
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Speaker 1: they're playing out of the gate, I'm impressed with the defense. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's not like I said last week, and I'll say
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Speaker 1: it again going into season, I was more worried about
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Speaker 1: the offense. Defense. I'm sorry than the offense. And now
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Speaker 1: I have to flip that at least for now. Now
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Speaker 1: we'll see, like you said, we got Lamar Jackson next week,
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Speaker 1: we got Aaron Rodgers the week after. We'll see what
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Speaker 1: happens when you have quarterbacks who are up last week Sunday.
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Speaker 1: So we need to talk about that a little later.
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Speaker 1: But but um, you know, there's still a lot to come.
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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm not on the ledge. I'm not even
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Speaker 1: near the ledge, you know, I'm not even near it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm concerned about the defense just because I don't know
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Speaker 1: what's going on with Kyle Dugger right now. Um, and
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Speaker 1: just a lot of I feel like there are a
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Speaker 1: lot of guys going out with yeah, various back injury. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: hopefully it's nothing, and hopefully those guys will be back
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Speaker 1: out there this weekend. But not having you know, one
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Speaker 1: or even two of those guys out there Sunday would
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Speaker 1: not be great. Dugger had a knee, is that what
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Speaker 1: he was listed with? And then Gotcha had a back
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Speaker 1: and he came back. Gotcha came back, and I think
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Speaker 1: I think Duggar was the only one to leave and
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Speaker 1: not return. And Peppers went in there and made some
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Speaker 1: plays I know they have about him, So yeah, I've
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Speaker 1: been intrigued by him all summer. So this might be
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Speaker 1: an opportunity that the bomb just dropped, we are no
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Speaker 1: personal danger, might be might be an opportunity for him,
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Speaker 1: you know Pepper's if Dugger can't go, which which I
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Speaker 1: kind of like, I'm not. I'm more intrigued than than
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Speaker 1: worried without Dougger. I think they've got the depth for
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Speaker 1: a reason there. But when you talk about Lamar Jackson
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Speaker 1: and how you're going to defend a really you know,
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Speaker 1: heavy front, I mean, guys, they play a lot with
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Speaker 1: a full block, they play a lot with multiple tight ends,
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Speaker 1: So something to consider when you're putting together a game
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Speaker 1: plan with a personnel and stuff. I also think while
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Speaker 1: Lamar is a very dynamic and great quarterback, I'm definitely
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Speaker 1: a team Lamar because he came out of the acc
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Speaker 1: of course, But um, outside of that, what worries me
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Speaker 1: about them, or what they should be worried about, I
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Speaker 1: guess is the way their defense collapsed the second half,
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Speaker 1: Like sure to a air quote lit it up, but
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Speaker 1: that was because the Ravens secondaries not great. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: guess they were crash. Yeah, they were minus a few
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Speaker 1: uh players, Peters and Humphrey were out of the line.
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Speaker 1: M So. But to me, well, and we'll talk about
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Speaker 1: this later in the week, but this puts the Patriots
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Speaker 1: in a bad spot. I think, can you take advantage
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Speaker 1: of it? And if you can, I think that the
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Speaker 1: Ravens are gonna come in here like looking to reverse
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Speaker 1: what happened. You know that was embarrassing for them. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, so they're not gonna want to have that happen.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's a historical, right, they had a bad quarter, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean the other seven quarters they've been really good,
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Speaker 1: and Tua was bad in that game until the fourth quarter. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So I don't know if you can rely on that
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Speaker 1: if you're the Patriots, right like them just completely. Harbaugh's
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Speaker 1: quotes were like ridiculously refreshing, like that can't have you know,
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Speaker 1: you didn't cover three and you have a guy behind
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Speaker 1: you with no one on it. That can't happen, like
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Speaker 1: we all saw it. But it was refreshing to hear
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Speaker 1: the coach actually say it, yeah, you know, as opposed
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Speaker 1: to bake. Yeah, So don't count on that from the
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Speaker 1: Ravens this week. I mean, I'm really not. I'm expecting
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Speaker 1: a really good defense. I'm not. I mean, And part
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Speaker 1: of that is because I don't necessarily think the Patriots
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Speaker 1: have what it takes to get downfield on them like that.
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Speaker 1: But you look at the talent that they have in
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Speaker 1: that secondary. I tend to chalk that performance up to
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Speaker 1: just an early season. We didn't have it today. We
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Speaker 1: lost our focus. And maybe it's a bigger you know,
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Speaker 1: we'll see going down the road. But yeah, and maybe
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Speaker 1: you know, if it happens continuously on then Miami exposed
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Speaker 1: something in them. I don't think that that is the case.
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Speaker 1: I think Um Humphrey had a groin problem that he
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Speaker 1: entered the week the game with an injury. I think
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Speaker 1: that occurred Friday at practice. They try to monitor him
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Speaker 1: a little bit, so when he was out of the game,
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Speaker 1: like two of the long touchdown passes happened. Now, he
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Speaker 1: played the majority of the game. He played like eighty
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Speaker 1: percent of the snaps, but there was a breakdown that
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Speaker 1: they had in Baltimore that seemingly every time he was
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Speaker 1: off the field, something really bad happened in the fourth quarter,
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Speaker 1: and then they also I feel like losing Kyle Fuller
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Speaker 1: a couple of days before that too. That takes a
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Speaker 1: huge person out of their depth as well. So it's yeah, tough.
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Speaker 1: We'll see and again we'll talk a lot more about
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Speaker 1: the Ravens coming up. But but the defense that you
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Speaker 1: brought up, Freddie, what I've been most impressed with is
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Speaker 1: the run defense, because that's been a huge problem through
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Speaker 1: like going on three or four years, going back to
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl year. They had a problem in nineteen
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one and the first two games. I know
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Speaker 1: that's just a small sample size, but I think the
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Speaker 1: run defense has been really stout and they haven't had
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Speaker 1: to like put more guys up there. They haven't had
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Speaker 1: a you know, uh, you know, add a safety to
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Speaker 1: the box or go with a heavy package in front,
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Speaker 1: you know. And I think that they've done a really
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Speaker 1: good job of sort of winning on first down to
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Speaker 1: use the cliche to set up better because they've needed
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Speaker 1: that because their third down defense. Strangely enough, with giving
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Speaker 1: the amount of points they're growing up, their third down
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Speaker 1: defense has been terrible. Um. I think they're like third,
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Speaker 1: third or fourth to last in third down defense. So
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Speaker 1: that doesn't seem to jive Usually when you have trouble
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Speaker 1: getting off the field. You're giving up points, they're not
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Speaker 1: um So that means that they're winning a lot on
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Speaker 1: early downs and eventually getting off the field even though
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Speaker 1: they're giving up the you know, Bill talked about the
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Speaker 1: third and ones. You know, they given up a lot
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Speaker 1: of those, but there was a third and seventeen and
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Speaker 1: a third and ten they gave up the other day too,
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Speaker 1: to an offense. Really that shouldn't be converting those. What
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Speaker 1: I think it is this most surprising about your point, Paul,
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Speaker 1: is that you're getting just much better play out of
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Speaker 1: Lawrence Guy and Godchaw. And why why has this been
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Speaker 1: their best player in two games? I mean, why that
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Speaker 1: that first play they sheds his block and just makes
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Speaker 1: the play all of a sudden. It's like he's putting
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Speaker 1: it all together, like his length, like he just looks
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Speaker 1: like a dominant player out there. And that's what none
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Speaker 1: of us expect. That's what we didn't expect, and that's
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Speaker 1: why I was more concerned about the defense going in.
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Speaker 1: It's because you're gonna rely on these guys who, let's
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Speaker 1: face it, have been here for a little bit and
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Speaker 1: seem like maybe they're probably gonna be trending down. I
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Speaker 1: don't think anybody expected Dietrich Wise to suddenly play like this,
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Speaker 1: and he's been really really and I think God has
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Speaker 1: been really solid too, so you know, I think guy
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Speaker 1: they had him for three stops. I mean, he's involved
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Speaker 1: as well. So it's just I think those guys playing
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Speaker 1: well is taking some pressure off of what they're trying
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Speaker 1: to experiment with on the second level and giving them
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Speaker 1: a little bit of leeway if they're gonna go a
11:38
Speaker 1: little bit lighter with like a mac Wilson. But again,
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Speaker 1: I don't really think Miami's run game is all that good.
11:44
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh had a banged up Naji Harris and that's about it.
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Speaker 1: They didn't really try offensive lines too, so I mean,
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Speaker 1: and this one isn't really And this is unique too.
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Speaker 1: I mean this is Lamar Jackson, and you know they're
11:56
Speaker 1: they're also got a different kind of attack on the
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Speaker 1: ground too, So we'll see with the conventional and I
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Speaker 1: don't know, because this is really strange, but I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you've looked at any of this Baltimore stuff yet.
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Speaker 1: I know you keep saying, well, we'll get to it,
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Speaker 1: and I agree, Um, they can't run the ball conventionally. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: their running backs have done nothing. It's all Lamar Jackson.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's scrambles, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if it's designed runs. I don't know if it's a
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Speaker 1: combination of both. But he is the entirety of the
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Speaker 1: rushing offense. Yep, yep. You put the spy on Lamar,
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Speaker 1: spy him. Yeah, I don't have anybody I want spy
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Speaker 1: in him. I want eleven spies on Lamar. Yeah, like
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Speaker 1: I don't trust mac Wilson to chase him down in space.
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Speaker 1: Nobody chases him down space. Nobody, Nobody, nobody. Yeah, all right, um,
12:44
Speaker 1: let's go back, you know, let's talk a little bit
12:46
Speaker 1: more of the superlatives from the game. Best dress. Um No.
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Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of a lot of
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Speaker 1: chatter after the game, maybe a little bit um, some
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Speaker 1: of it a little bit too hyped up. But Cole
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Speaker 1: Strange had a nice game, had a nice game, and
13:06
Speaker 1: you know, there was some clips out on Twitter of
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Speaker 1: individual plays where you know, he held guys off, and
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Speaker 1: you know, I think it can't be just one guy.
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Speaker 1: I think the whole line had a They were much better. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the whole line had a really good game and Cole
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Speaker 1: Strange had a good game to communication issues, yeah like that,
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Speaker 1: and everybody said, like they didn't get beat a lot,
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Speaker 1: and this is what we talked about, Like Mac Jones
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Speaker 1: wasn't under a tremendous amount of pressure in the first game.
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Speaker 1: There were just a couple of plays that were complete
13:32
Speaker 1: breakdowns when no one blocks somebody. Right, they didn't have
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Speaker 1: any of those in this game, right. Yeah, Trent Brown
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Speaker 1: got away with a false start early and that would
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Speaker 1: have been a bad one, a big man false starting.
13:45
Speaker 1: We'll get to the bad stuff we're doing. The super
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Speaker 1: Lis could be too, I would say, though I I
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Speaker 1: I tend to see what I what I was seeing
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Speaker 1: when I watched the game again. I think Mac is
13:59
Speaker 1: still missing off and I put him on the bad list,
14:02
Speaker 1: and I felt a little bit bad about that afterwards,
14:04
Speaker 1: but now I don't feel sorry today. Hijack it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: did best hair go to No. I'll make the point
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Speaker 1: in digress, but I think he's missing stuff still. I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't. I'm on the Paul train of he's not
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Speaker 1: seen it right. I think there's plays being left on
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Speaker 1: the field by him, and I think he needs to
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Speaker 1: be better. Sorry, go back. Okay, my superlative. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to be positive Paul today. Um. I think that the
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Speaker 1: two stops at the end of the game by the
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Speaker 1: defense something that we needed last year to finally see that,
14:36
Speaker 1: and this game was huge to give the ball back
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Speaker 1: to the offense. They could brun the clock out, burning
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Speaker 1: the ball last twelve minutes. I think that was the
14:42
Speaker 1: highlight of the game for me. Obviously outside of it,
14:44
Speaker 1: I love that. Obviously, outside of Nelson Aglord dunking right defender,
14:49
Speaker 1: that was obviously the best play of the whole game
14:51
Speaker 1: because but that's two stopped by the defense. Incredible. Even
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Speaker 1: when Pittsburgh needed that ball back and they start playing
14:57
Speaker 1: renegade and the crowd gets crazy, like I felt, okay, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I felt okay, I agree with you. It was over
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Speaker 1: when they went three and out twice. Yeah, you could
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Speaker 1: just see you could see the whole sideline to Fleet
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Speaker 1: and it was almost like the defense was like, we
15:10
Speaker 1: just gave you the ball. We just stopped them twice.
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Speaker 1: With down three, we stopped them twice and you can't
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Speaker 1: even move a yard. They gave him the ball on
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Speaker 1: the fifty yard line, yeah, and made him punt right,
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Speaker 1: and they still couldn't move the ball. You could almost
15:25
Speaker 1: see the body language of the defense when Pittsburgh went
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Speaker 1: onto the field the last drive. I'm not gonna tell
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Speaker 1: you I foresee like I could foresee, Well, they're just
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Speaker 1: gonna run it twelve times in a row when the
15:37
Speaker 1: game's gonna be over. I'm not saying I saw that coming,
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Speaker 1: but I wasn't. I wasn't stunned that Pittsburgh never got it.
15:43
Speaker 1: Goes back to that old thing that Parcels used to say,
15:45
Speaker 1: each side of the ball gives the other hope, and
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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh's offense gave the defense giving them no hope. Yeah,
15:52
Speaker 1: and you could say the Patriots defense was the reason
15:56
Speaker 1: why they had no hope. It depends on how you
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Speaker 1: look at it. Yeah, I think to your point, though, Paul,
16:01
Speaker 1: like they I mean, they gave up a bunch of
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Speaker 1: third downs in that you know, middle portion like there
16:05
Speaker 1: was it was a little harry for a while. I
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Speaker 1: just I liked that they came together at the end.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't perfect throughout, but I think the Tamara's points
16:11
Speaker 1: stepping up at the end of what I wrote about yesterday,
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Speaker 1: it was just, you know, it's a good situational I
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Speaker 1: just love these The best play it was the last
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Speaker 1: ten minutes of the game. They had the two three announced,
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Speaker 1: the Tamara mentioned and then the last six minute drive
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Speaker 1: that was the best play of the game. So, you know,
16:25
Speaker 1: in the wide receiver category, to me, Myers and Agalore
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Speaker 1: have outstanding. They had good games and they've established themselves
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Speaker 1: with as the top two receivers right now on this team.
16:37
Speaker 1: I mean, right from the get go, Agalore, every time
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Speaker 1: he caught the ball, it wasn't just catchy, it was
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Speaker 1: fighting for more yards. Like he had this like ferocity
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Speaker 1: about him, like almost like he had a chip on
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Speaker 1: his shoulder going into the game, Like he was like
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Speaker 1: looking for contact, you know, taking the ball and immediately
16:53
Speaker 1: turning up field and you know, um, just I hadn't
16:57
Speaker 1: seen like that kind of a ferocity to him. And
17:00
Speaker 1: then of course Meyer's right from the get go, he's
17:02
Speaker 1: like the drive starter. I don't know how many catches
17:05
Speaker 1: did he have in the game, seven right here? Actually nine? Yeah,
17:10
Speaker 1: I mean he's been like the most consistent guy on
17:13
Speaker 1: the team. Yeahs I pounded the table for him in
17:15
Speaker 1: the post game of just I mean having out a
17:19
Speaker 1: lot of guys, you've resigned a second contracts. What more
17:21
Speaker 1: can you ask of him? He's had four different offenses
17:24
Speaker 1: kind of to deal with every single one. He's been
17:27
Speaker 1: productive in big moments. He continues to make contest to
17:30
Speaker 1: catch after Conde to catch. I think, make a deal
17:33
Speaker 1: with him, keep him around. But I like your point
17:35
Speaker 1: of what iglore too. I think he's looked in really
17:37
Speaker 1: good shape to me all year. He looks a little
17:39
Speaker 1: bit like, you know, faster, just like I don't know
17:41
Speaker 1: if it's necessarily the same thing you're saying, but it's
17:43
Speaker 1: just to me, he just looks quicker overall. And I
17:46
Speaker 1: think he's he's just more urgency when he's out there,
17:48
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, there seems to be
17:50
Speaker 1: he seems to be a different player, and maybe that's
17:52
Speaker 1: how they're using him a little bit, whereas last year
17:54
Speaker 1: it was kind of like what they're doing with Parker.
17:55
Speaker 1: They just have him on the outside and he'd pretty
17:57
Speaker 1: much just run, goes or come back. So UM love
18:00
Speaker 1: to see him continue to get more involved. I think
18:02
Speaker 1: that overshadowed maybe the lack of production from the tight
18:05
Speaker 1: ends and um and and Parker, as you brought up,
18:07
Speaker 1: which I think is surprising, and I feel like they
18:11
Speaker 1: want to get him going. I mean we've talked about it.
18:13
Speaker 1: They play him a ton and they a couple of things,
18:16
Speaker 1: but there's not a lot of targets for him. Well
18:17
Speaker 1: that's like the Titans and Parker didn't. It's not like
18:20
Speaker 1: they had those games where you know, they're just jamming
18:23
Speaker 1: it to them and you know it's four catches on
18:25
Speaker 1: twelve targets, right, you know, I mean I think Hunter
18:28
Speaker 1: Henry had one and Jonah Smith had three and Parker
18:31
Speaker 1: had two. Two Okay, yeah, right, So it's not like
18:34
Speaker 1: they spent a lot. They weren't heavily involved in the
18:37
Speaker 1: passing game, but while a Galore and um Myers were
18:41
Speaker 1: and they produced. But that could be see, we don't
18:44
Speaker 1: know park well no, but I mean this could be
18:48
Speaker 1: where we don't know what's really going on out there
18:51
Speaker 1: and what Mac isn't seeing and maybe it wasn't it
18:54
Speaker 1: was less. Oh, Parker isn't part of it as much
18:58
Speaker 1: as Mac didn't feel comfortable throwing it to him, you know,
19:01
Speaker 1: like he could have been if Mac made the decision
19:04
Speaker 1: to go there, and it could be on Mac. I
19:07
Speaker 1: don't know, and I know, like Mike put it. I
19:09
Speaker 1: was actually surprised on Sunday when Mike put Mac on
19:11
Speaker 1: the bad list, not because I thought he was wrong,
19:13
Speaker 1: just because it was Mike and I was looking at
19:15
Speaker 1: the bright side of um No. But in all seriously,
19:18
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind Yes, I thought it was
19:21
Speaker 1: just kind of another one of those games, like I
19:24
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily think he did all that much well, but
19:27
Speaker 1: I didn't think he did all that much bad. One
19:29
Speaker 1: thing that I do think he missed that was bad.
19:32
Speaker 1: Um there's been like the narrative of the week. You know,
19:35
Speaker 1: these games sort of take on its fifty fifty balls.
19:38
Speaker 1: It's all anybody wants to I mean, and last year
19:42
Speaker 1: was how come we can't do fifty fifty balls? Okay,
19:45
Speaker 1: you know it's it's like it's unbelieva. I'm on record,
19:47
Speaker 1: I support my good friend Mike just so. I do
19:50
Speaker 1: not like fifty fifty balls, especially with it with their
19:53
Speaker 1: receiving corps they don't have that can't be or half
19:55
Speaker 1: those like you got to do every once in a while,
19:57
Speaker 1: I just want to state something to defend the Patriots
20:00
Speaker 1: and defend the offensive coaches, Patricia Judge, Belichick, whoever you
20:04
Speaker 1: want to do. The bomb that was picked off to
20:07
Speaker 1: Davante Parker was not a fifty fifty ball. It shouldn't
20:10
Speaker 1: have been. He was open and it was a bad throw. Now,
20:14
Speaker 1: he got hit right after he threw it. That may
20:17
Speaker 1: have had something to do with it. But Parker's running
20:19
Speaker 1: down the seam, he's got a linebacker trailing him, and
20:22
Speaker 1: the throw went back to the inside, allowing Minka Fitzpatrick
20:26
Speaker 1: to come over and get it. That's a bad throw.
20:28
Speaker 1: That's not a fifty fifty ball, right, It wasn't on Parker.
20:31
Speaker 1: The throw crap made it a fifty fifty ball that
20:34
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been it. I mean it made it almost
20:37
Speaker 1: impossible for Parker to get himself back in position because
20:40
Speaker 1: he had a sort of arch back and leaned back
20:42
Speaker 1: against the grain. Sometimes it happens. It was a bad throw.
20:47
Speaker 1: But I just think this whole notion that everything that
20:49
Speaker 1: they do down the field is a fifty fifty ball,
20:52
Speaker 1: that's not really been the case. The touchdown to Agilo
20:55
Speaker 1: was a fifty fifty ball in a bad everything to
20:58
Speaker 1: me except for Agilo. It was a terrible throw, a
21:01
Speaker 1: terrible decision, I thought, and Agila build it out with
21:04
Speaker 1: an incredible individual effort in my opinion, Yeah, I thought
21:08
Speaker 1: the past should have been picked off in to you
21:11
Speaker 1: a point the ferocity. Yeah, he refused to allow that
21:14
Speaker 1: ball to get picked off, right, That's that's that to
21:17
Speaker 1: me was all give all the props to to Nelly,
21:20
Speaker 1: as Billy Billy b calls him. I think it's just
21:22
Speaker 1: kind of too predictable with Parker, and I mean to
21:25
Speaker 1: to kind of recap his whole story and training camps.
21:27
Speaker 1: Training camps started off for a couple of days and
21:29
Speaker 1: they were throwing end zone contest to catch and he
21:32
Speaker 1: and he made a number of those, and I you know,
21:35
Speaker 1: his story got upset about it. They kept throwing contested balls,
21:38
Speaker 1: just getting upset. Then they started to work in the
21:40
Speaker 1: quick little slant you know, and and and those are
21:42
Speaker 1: kind of the only two plays that they really you know,
21:44
Speaker 1: we saw him run extensively to him. So each of
21:47
Speaker 1: these throws he's tried the Parker and this has been
21:50
Speaker 1: the same kind of thing, like he's just thrown it
21:51
Speaker 1: up to him, like you know, I don't know, we
21:53
Speaker 1: want to say with fifty fifty, but they got to
21:55
Speaker 1: find a way to get him the ball conventionally because
21:58
Speaker 1: it just feels like he's a specialty item right now,
22:00
Speaker 1: that one that they're probably a little bit too enamored with.
22:03
Speaker 1: And you know, we had our thing about you know,
22:05
Speaker 1: the interception. Like I just think right now, it's it's
22:08
Speaker 1: kind of predictable what they want to do with with
22:10
Speaker 1: Parker in terms of putting it up and and and
22:12
Speaker 1: and trying to let him come down with it. It's
22:15
Speaker 1: I heard the calls yesterday people. I think it was
22:17
Speaker 1: one of Paul shows. I had to work that in. Um,
22:19
Speaker 1: you know, Vagalore, could you you know, if you're not
22:21
Speaker 1: really producing much out of Parker and you only have
22:24
Speaker 1: contested catches with him, would it make more sense than
22:26
Speaker 1: to you know, maybe bump by Aggalore back out there
22:28
Speaker 1: a little bit, or just more rotation of moving guys
22:31
Speaker 1: like you know, the whole offseason, a lot of people
22:34
Speaker 1: around here wanted to deal Agalore. That's what I wrote
22:37
Speaker 1: for my my notes, Like, I mean, they wanted new people.
22:41
Speaker 1: He had he I mean he did. He had a
22:43
Speaker 1: disappointing year last year. Um. I don't think it was
22:46
Speaker 1: a disaster. It wasn't John O. Smith, Um, but he
22:49
Speaker 1: was disappointing year last year for for Agalore. And people
22:53
Speaker 1: wanted to get rid of him. He hads like a
22:54
Speaker 1: fourteen point eight million dollars cap hit or something along
22:58
Speaker 1: those lines. We gotta trade this guy. We got trade him.
23:00
Speaker 1: Now we've got Parker, we don't we don't need him.
23:02
Speaker 1: We got to trade him. Where would they be, right,
23:05
Speaker 1: Where would they be without Agalore on Sunday? That's right,
23:08
Speaker 1: that's true. I mean it's like the forty nine is
23:10
Speaker 1: in Jimmy Garoppolo. I mean, you didn't want to you
23:12
Speaker 1: didn't want to play I mean, you didn't want to
23:15
Speaker 1: play Born. And if you didn't have Agalore, I don't know.
23:19
Speaker 1: I don't know if you'd you'd have won that game
23:20
Speaker 1: on Sunday, if it was just Parker and Myers. Yeah, um, okay,
23:25
Speaker 1: anything else coming out of the game, Um, I mean
23:28
Speaker 1: I thought penalties were you know, they had a few.
23:30
Speaker 1: But that's why, you know, we move on from the superlatives.
23:33
Speaker 1: There were a lot of similarities in those two games
23:35
Speaker 1: with the mental stuff. Yeah, there were a lot more.
23:37
Speaker 1: There was pre snap penalties again, um, a couple of things.
23:42
Speaker 1: The difference is the gaffs that they made this this
23:45
Speaker 1: game that they didn't get away with against Miami they
23:47
Speaker 1: got away with. Yeah, he throws the ball right to
23:50
Speaker 1: Cameron's as a Cameron Sutton, but Sutton's first name a
23:54
Speaker 1: defensive back for Pittsburgh, right right right. It was twenty
23:57
Speaker 1: the same, by the way, the same interception that he
23:59
Speaker 1: threw repeatedly on the practice field and once in the
24:04
Speaker 1: in the preseason, rolling one way, throwing back the other
24:07
Speaker 1: um and throw that he can't make, but he keeps
24:09
Speaker 1: doing it, and that throw hit twenty right in the chest.
24:12
Speaker 1: He drops it. Witherspoon has a chance to make a
24:15
Speaker 1: pick at the end of the half, huge momentum changer.
24:17
Speaker 1: Agila wrestles it away from him. Myles Bryant, you know,
24:21
Speaker 1: muffs a punt into the end zone. Fortunate to come away.
24:24
Speaker 1: Why is it even fielding that There used to be
24:27
Speaker 1: a rule you put your heels on the ten and
24:29
Speaker 1: anything over your head you don't touch. You run away
24:32
Speaker 1: from it and let it hope that it bounces into
24:34
Speaker 1: the end Really don't want a guy catch him one
24:36
Speaker 1: over his shoulder running back. But now these guys are
24:39
Speaker 1: fielding punts inside the ten and it's like so risky.
24:42
Speaker 1: Did you see Tamara's game over the weekend that was
24:45
Speaker 1: was that Oh yeah, where he tried like what was
24:49
Speaker 1: he doing? Why is he getting caught the ball at
24:52
Speaker 1: the blade of grass? Lot? And then he's like trying
24:55
Speaker 1: to keep his feet in dude, if you go in
24:58
Speaker 1: the end zone, it's a touch back. Hey, what are
25:00
Speaker 1: you doing? My guy? What are you doing? I think
25:03
Speaker 1: he forgot he was like on the receiving team. You know,
25:07
Speaker 1: it was weird, like anyway, poor guy. Oh, I felt
25:11
Speaker 1: so bad. It was like I saw like five minutes
25:15
Speaker 1: of college football on Saturday, and that was one of them,
25:17
Speaker 1: you know, aside from the end of cock college game. Um,
25:20
Speaker 1: and that was that was all I saw on Twitter
25:22
Speaker 1: all day. Yeah, that between that and the app State
25:27
Speaker 1: Hill Mary, that's like, oh yeah, I did see the
25:29
Speaker 1: highlight where they all smashed into the goal post. Is
25:31
Speaker 1: that the one? Oh no, that was that was a
25:33
Speaker 1: different game. Okay, that was funny too. They all just
25:36
Speaker 1: went down like bowling pins, right, all right. So there
25:40
Speaker 1: were some things, yeah, you know, they got away with
25:43
Speaker 1: some you know, like just think about just how how
25:46
Speaker 1: tenuous it can be in the league. The interception that
25:50
Speaker 1: he threw that was dropped by Sutton and two plays
25:54
Speaker 1: later they punked the ball off of Gunner's face. Right,
25:57
Speaker 1: so you go. You went from a crushing turn her
26:00
Speaker 1: to a crushing turnover for the other team. Yep. And
26:04
Speaker 1: that's a fourteen point swing. Yep. I some might call
26:08
Speaker 1: it that much. Yeah, I want to go back to
26:10
Speaker 1: what if we did a segment that we took the
26:12
Speaker 1: key element of a game and we called it the
26:15
Speaker 1: turning point to Marry, what do you think can we
26:18
Speaker 1: use that the turning point? She's just looking at me
26:21
Speaker 1: like I'm not having it. I'm like, I'm young, but
26:26
Speaker 1: I'm young, You're not. I'm not having this at all.
26:28
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Mac a little bit,
26:30
Speaker 1: because the season revolves around him, the success or failure
26:33
Speaker 1: of this, you know. Like I again, I don't think
26:37
Speaker 1: he had the confidence that I think he needs on
26:41
Speaker 1: every play, But there were a couple where and there
26:44
Speaker 1: was one it was probably a twenty five yard passed downfield.
26:48
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Smith or Myers, where
26:50
Speaker 1: he threw it a little high and it wasn't really catchable,
26:54
Speaker 1: but he stepped in and just drove the ball and like,
26:58
Speaker 1: I saw arm strength there that I hadn't seen all game.
27:01
Speaker 1: I think he's got it. It's just upstairs, like when
27:05
Speaker 1: he you know, is sure about the throw and steps
27:08
Speaker 1: into it. I think he can generate the type of
27:11
Speaker 1: you know, he's never gonna be Lamar, you know, any
27:14
Speaker 1: of these guys with big arms, but I think he
27:17
Speaker 1: can generate sufficient power when he throws with decisiveness. I
27:24
Speaker 1: saw it, you know, Yeah, I think everybody would agree
27:27
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah. The difference between him is he needs that, yeah,
27:30
Speaker 1: to do it like that. Yeah, everybody else can just
27:33
Speaker 1: do it right. The weird part, I mean, did you
27:34
Speaker 1: see Josh Allen. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous, I mean, and
27:37
Speaker 1: it's I'm not even trying to you know, I'm not
27:40
Speaker 1: even trying to compare him to Josh Allen because not
27:43
Speaker 1: only Josh Allen's an MVP candidate, but in terms of
27:46
Speaker 1: raw skills, he might be the most physically gifted guy
27:50
Speaker 1: in the league. So it's not fair to compare everybody.
27:52
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just talking about but the effortless
27:55
Speaker 1: like flips down the field, it's, you know, ridiculous on
27:58
Speaker 1: the move, you know, away, I've never seen all right,
28:01
Speaker 1: we saw, I've never seen so many. I've never seen
28:04
Speaker 1: a guys throw so many fifty yard passes like on
28:06
Speaker 1: a line. Yeah, Like when he throws the ball down
28:09
Speaker 1: the field, he doesn't have to arc it. No, it's unreal. No.
28:13
Speaker 1: I think the weird thing for me about mac is
28:15
Speaker 1: is just the bad decisions and some of the processing
28:19
Speaker 1: stuff that weren't really issues last year, that those things
28:22
Speaker 1: are popping up. And I think the dropped interception is
28:25
Speaker 1: just the perfect example of like, that's just right there
28:27
Speaker 1: everything you can't can't, can't do in a game like that,
28:31
Speaker 1: And it scared me. How about the deep ball, like
28:34
Speaker 1: the deep over route to John U on third and
28:37
Speaker 1: three with Jacoby Myers, Like, yeah, see, and that's and
28:40
Speaker 1: like and I know, you know, you get into like
28:41
Speaker 1: the film and the mindset going into that play because
28:47
Speaker 1: the play itself unfolds. He's not looking at Jacoby that
28:50
Speaker 1: I get. I'm with you on that. He's looking down
28:53
Speaker 1: the field to make a big play. Yeah, but I'm
28:55
Speaker 1: asking why why are we not just looking to move
28:58
Speaker 1: the chayoffs? I know, And that's that's you know, it's
29:01
Speaker 1: just when you see the play ends and you can
29:03
Speaker 1: see the body language of the receiver as like there's
29:06
Speaker 1: no one around me, give it, you know, for that
29:08
Speaker 1: split second where everybody knows and Twitter right. But I
29:12
Speaker 1: just I do think that he's not taken the easy
29:15
Speaker 1: money up front and and you know, finding guys and
29:18
Speaker 1: just you know, boom right out, let the guy catch
29:20
Speaker 1: it and run with it a little bit um, you know.
29:22
Speaker 1: I just I think maybe he's in his own head,
29:25
Speaker 1: but but just some of the decision making. If he
29:26
Speaker 1: can clean that mental stuff up, I think that there
29:28
Speaker 1: are more plays to be made for him. I think
29:31
Speaker 1: I think part of what I saw yesterday later in
29:34
Speaker 1: the game was him being more sure of his offensive line,
29:38
Speaker 1: because I think in Miami he was jittering. It looked
29:41
Speaker 1: like it from the get go, Yes, And I thought
29:43
Speaker 1: that was something that coaches hammered home to him this Yeah,
29:46
Speaker 1: because I thought the first drive of the game he
29:48
Speaker 1: looked more comfortable, Yeah, more settled, and he did last week. Yeah,
29:52
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, they're gonna you're gonna be fine. Look,
29:54
Speaker 1: I mean that's when he was last year. That was
29:56
Speaker 1: what impressed me last year with him, if just there
29:57
Speaker 1: was chaos going around him and he kept his eyes
29:59
Speaker 1: down for and he was able to you know, still
30:01
Speaker 1: process and make the throws. So it was nice to
30:04
Speaker 1: see that, and you know, maybe it's or building hopefully,
30:07
Speaker 1: but I mean another you know, I mean, I I
30:09
Speaker 1: always respect the Ravens defense. It's like, no matter who
30:11
Speaker 1: they kind of have, I'm I'm I'm worried because I
30:13
Speaker 1: feel like they're going to be aggressive. I was keeping
30:16
Speaker 1: my eyes on the sideline after some of the bad drives,
30:18
Speaker 1: what you know, what was going on. And one time
30:21
Speaker 1: Mac came over, sat down, and Bill came over and
30:24
Speaker 1: was going over something. I don't know if he was
30:26
Speaker 1: on the tablet or a piece of paper, but it
30:27
Speaker 1: was a lot. Yeah, he bent over and he was
30:30
Speaker 1: talking to Mac. And then when Matt when Bill left
30:32
Speaker 1: and it was judge, but Bill was spending time with me,
30:35
Speaker 1: kept showing that yeah it was Bill. After like the
30:37
Speaker 1: first several drives, yeah, and Bill had his back to
30:40
Speaker 1: the to the defense completely. And then there was another
30:42
Speaker 1: bad drive where Mac was frustrated and Hoyer came up
30:46
Speaker 1: to him and he was talking to him. And then
30:49
Speaker 1: as he's walking by, Patricia came up to him and
30:52
Speaker 1: Matt kind of like he said a couple would and
30:54
Speaker 1: just kept walking like yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, you know. Um,
30:58
Speaker 1: so it's just looking again at some of that, you know,
31:01
Speaker 1: sideline interactions, see how No it's important, like what is
31:05
Speaker 1: going on over there? I was just thinking, who's in
31:07
Speaker 1: his ear? You know, who's either calming him down or
31:10
Speaker 1: giving him you know, you know the view of what
31:13
Speaker 1: happened from another perspective. And you know, I just I
31:17
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting that Bill was doing a lot
31:20
Speaker 1: of that early. No, We've been talking about so much.
31:22
Speaker 1: I feel like we need a writer just to do
31:24
Speaker 1: nothing but tell you everything to happen on the sidelines
31:26
Speaker 1: the whole game, and document everybody who talked to I mean,
31:29
Speaker 1: I read something don't forget the born Matt Patricia hug
31:32
Speaker 1: don't forget Billy Yates this week. I think I think
31:38
Speaker 1: that was a one game thing where they figured at
31:40
Speaker 1: halftime the Saint working, we got to get him down here. Yeah,
31:43
Speaker 1: you know it seems like an adjustment, yeah, that they made. No,
31:47
Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully it gets better. I just I'm not
31:50
Speaker 1: as um, you know, wringing my hand right now about
31:52
Speaker 1: offensive design and all that kind of stuff. I just
31:55
Speaker 1: I just want to see Mac take take to take
31:57
Speaker 1: the easy stuff and and will continue to look comfortable
32:00
Speaker 1: like he did. And if he does, I think I
32:02
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be okay. I of course, what is
32:04
Speaker 1: okay mean? After you look at we need we don't
32:09
Speaker 1: have enough evidence yet. I mean, there's not enough evidence
32:12
Speaker 1: to draw any conclusions. You know, um, next week is
32:16
Speaker 1: gonna be big and then going on the road to
32:19
Speaker 1: green Bay. I don't care what Green Bay's offense looks like.
32:22
Speaker 1: You got Aaron Rodgers and looks like you know, Aaron
32:25
Speaker 1: Jones or what's the running back's name. J Yeah, he
32:28
Speaker 1: looks like he's playing pretty well, you know, yeah, big boy.
32:34
Speaker 1: So you know they've got some pieces there. They'll be fine. Yeah, yeah,
32:38
Speaker 1: green Bay, that'll I mean, I'm not just you can
32:40
Speaker 1: hold me this one, fred, I won't be talking about
32:44
Speaker 1: the lack of receivers in Green Bay if the Patriot's
32:46
Speaker 1: going and shut down at I don't I don't like that, Matt.
32:51
Speaker 1: I don't like the the fraudulent people that tell you
32:53
Speaker 1: after the game that was a great performance or that
32:56
Speaker 1: one wasn't that impressive. No, we all know that Pittsburgh,
33:00
Speaker 1: everybody in their brother sort of predicted the kind of
33:04
Speaker 1: game that we saw it on Sunday. That's true, right,
33:06
Speaker 1: That is sixteen thirteen seventeen fourteen, twenty one, seventeen something.
33:10
Speaker 1: Who gets and someone's gonna make a big mistake and
33:12
Speaker 1: that's going to decide the game. That's exactly I mean,
33:14
Speaker 1: just listen. I'm not trying to I'm not asking for
33:17
Speaker 1: a pat in the back. It's one of the rare
33:19
Speaker 1: times that all of the idiots like us got one. Right. Yeah,
33:22
Speaker 1: that's exactly the way the game unfolded. And that's the
33:24
Speaker 1: exactly even seven the sharps, what was it two and
33:28
Speaker 1: a half of the Patriots win by three. Right, that's
33:31
Speaker 1: it's impressive how they do that. It doesn't happen often.
33:34
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33:41
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33:45
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33:49
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33:56
Speaker 1: a crane flyer stadium. It's good to be young. I
34:00
Speaker 1: don't feel younger, I don't feel tardy, but I did
34:04
Speaker 1: think that was one of those games that you know,
34:07
Speaker 1: everybody kind of knit. So I'm not going to sit
34:09
Speaker 1: there and say, wow, who saw that coming? And unbelievable
34:13
Speaker 1: performance by the deep Well, pretty much everybody right thought
34:16
Speaker 1: that the defense, it would have been more of a story.
34:18
Speaker 1: Patriots defense is better scored third, everybody thought the Patriots
34:22
Speaker 1: defense was better than the Steelers offense, and that the
34:25
Speaker 1: Steelers defense was better than the Patriots offense. And that's
34:28
Speaker 1: kind of the way the game unfolded. Yeah, you know,
34:31
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots offense was much better than Pittsburgh's offense. Yeah,
34:34
Speaker 1: it kind of in the game. Yeah, it kind of
34:36
Speaker 1: felt like one of the last year's games. I mean,
34:37
Speaker 1: so these are Patriots games where when they don't make
34:39
Speaker 1: the critical mistake and you know, they show up, they
34:42
Speaker 1: make a couple couple of key stops here and there
34:44
Speaker 1: like that, they're you know, they're generally a good team
34:46
Speaker 1: usually like and that's those are the kind of games
34:48
Speaker 1: they're able to win. And even if and I understand,
34:50
Speaker 1: like the Gunner play was huge, but I'm just gonna
34:53
Speaker 1: say that he just caught the ball, you know, like
34:56
Speaker 1: he's supposed to um or if he was still in
34:59
Speaker 1: the Patriots and the ball bounced off his face mask
35:01
Speaker 1: and went out of bounds like it did when he
35:03
Speaker 1: was here. M I still think the Patriots would have
35:07
Speaker 1: won the game. Yeah, I just something else and I
35:10
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if there would have been any
35:12
Speaker 1: more mistakes, but I think that was the style of
35:15
Speaker 1: game that the Patriots have generally found a way to
35:17
Speaker 1: win with mac Jones. Turnover. You know, you had the
35:20
Speaker 1: numbers in the turnover margin when they win the turnover battle,
35:23
Speaker 1: there's something like nine and one. When they lose it,
35:25
Speaker 1: their oh and eight or something. I don't know, something
35:27
Speaker 1: silly like that. Um, But I just feel like when
35:31
Speaker 1: the Patriots are leading for an extended period of time
35:34
Speaker 1: and they play with the lead for an extended period
35:36
Speaker 1: of time, they generally win with mac Jones. If they're behind,
35:39
Speaker 1: I don't have the same faith. They were behind that
35:42
Speaker 1: whole like at that time in the second half, and
35:45
Speaker 1: that turned the tables, then I would I would have
35:47
Speaker 1: thought differently, But they were winning. I think it was
35:49
Speaker 1: ten to three at the time, right or ten to
35:51
Speaker 1: six at the time. I had pretty good faith that
35:55
Speaker 1: they were gonna they were gonna do that. Yeah. I
35:57
Speaker 1: think it's why people struggle to actually really believe that
36:00
Speaker 1: they're gonna win less than six games, you know, I
36:02
Speaker 1: think this is a kind of team that they play
36:05
Speaker 1: well enough, they're gonna get seven eight wins every year
36:08
Speaker 1: just because they're well coached and they're not you know,
36:10
Speaker 1: for a lot of the games, they're not going to
36:12
Speaker 1: beat themselves. I think the big question everybody's wondering is
36:14
Speaker 1: when are they going to beat a good team. When
36:16
Speaker 1: are they gonna go toe to toe? When are they
36:17
Speaker 1: gonna come from behind? You know, those kind of wins,
36:19
Speaker 1: because I think Paul's right. You know, generally when they
36:22
Speaker 1: won with Mackott, it looks pretty much, you know, very
36:24
Speaker 1: similar kind of games. So a lot of challenges coming
36:27
Speaker 1: up though. And I hope Dugger's okay. Yeah, um one,
36:30
Speaker 1: And I was excited he had that kickoff return and
36:34
Speaker 1: he looked pretty good on that. Paul is excited too.
36:36
Speaker 1: He's been calling for that. Yeah, so now now he
36:38
Speaker 1: gets enough for one play. So now he's got the
36:42
Speaker 1: knee and it's like, uh, you know, but um, I
36:45
Speaker 1: love seeing him back there taking kicks. I mean, he
36:48
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36:56
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36:59
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37:01
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37:11
Speaker 1: Eight five five pass five hundred. It's the eighth ticket
37:13
Speaker 1: hot line eight five five past five hundred. Web radio
37:16
Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com. Is the email address one of
37:19
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones. Maybe gets it gets a shot now with
37:22
Speaker 1: with with Douglas hurt, they're not feeling great about Miles Bryant.
37:25
Speaker 1: Maybe it's it's time to give him a chance. Was
37:28
Speaker 1: he active? He wasn't. No, so that's active. That's the thing.
37:31
Speaker 1: You know. Do you give up a roster spot on
37:33
Speaker 1: game day for him just for kickoffs? You know? Tough
37:36
Speaker 1: to tell, but but I would say two. Jack Jones
37:38
Speaker 1: is getting you know, he's getting some playtime early on
37:41
Speaker 1: second game of his career. That's always a good sign.
37:43
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. You know, I
37:45
Speaker 1: don't want to get too far ahead of the thing
37:47
Speaker 1: because usually Wednesday we turned the page. But you know,
37:51
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is amazing, but he's not big. It's not
37:55
Speaker 1: like you're trying to take down Josh Allen. So is
37:57
Speaker 1: this a good game for Marcus Jones to be in
38:00
Speaker 1: speed with his speed just to be able to get
38:02
Speaker 1: there and hold on until you get help, you know, maybe.
38:05
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I would say to the point
38:08
Speaker 1: that I kind of started the show with the defense.
38:09
Speaker 1: I feel. I feel overall their speed has has improved
38:12
Speaker 1: and they're putting guys in in better position where they
38:14
Speaker 1: can't be exposed as much in certain situations. Um, but
38:18
Speaker 1: you know between Miles, Brian and And and Jonathan Jones,
38:21
Speaker 1: and you know Mills isn't a burner, but but I
38:23
Speaker 1: think he's he's tough tackler and you know, sets a
38:26
Speaker 1: pretty good edge and comes up pretty hard. And I like,
38:29
Speaker 1: I like what they got. I mean, I like how
38:30
Speaker 1: they're spinning the dial right now. You know, we'll see
38:33
Speaker 1: what they have to do. Though against Lamar, I think
38:35
Speaker 1: it's a it's such a unique they keep tackling. Well,
38:37
Speaker 1: if they keep tacking, they have I think that's a Yeah.
38:40
Speaker 1: There's just so many Like watch those last two drives
38:42
Speaker 1: in the three and out. It's like every single tackle
38:44
Speaker 1: there's four Patriots making the tackle. You just wonder, like,
38:47
Speaker 1: when did they get to practice that? I know, you know,
38:50
Speaker 1: it's it looks really impressive. I mean, I just think
38:52
Speaker 1: when you look at the defense, that's something you always
38:54
Speaker 1: people always, you know, our guys getting in there gang tackle.
38:57
Speaker 1: You know. Mike is right though, like that's why you
38:59
Speaker 1: don't miss the tackle because if if a guy score,
39:02
Speaker 1: it's free, there's another guy to hit him. Right, So
39:04
Speaker 1: maybe he would have missed that tackle if there was
39:07
Speaker 1: just one on one in space. But they don't have
39:10
Speaker 1: a lot of those early on. It's two games, but
39:12
Speaker 1: they haven't had a lot of those situations where it's
39:15
Speaker 1: been one guy having to make a play. Yeah, all right,
39:18
Speaker 1: five past five hundred is the a ticket hot line.
39:20
Speaker 1: Let's go to it now. Aaron is in Connecticut? What's
39:23
Speaker 1: up Aaron? Aaron actually got in the locker room. I
39:30
Speaker 1: swear these guys he's been holding on since party. Aaron's
39:33
Speaker 1: not there. I guess he can call back up. He
39:35
Speaker 1: wants Williams and Phil him. What's up? William How good?
39:42
Speaker 1: Wake up? Anyway? Um? Is what's going on with Mac
39:53
Speaker 1: and DeVante Parker? Why they you know that comedy? He's
39:56
Speaker 1: not coming together? Like, what's what's the problem. Well, we
40:00
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, like like we we talked about
40:02
Speaker 1: it a little earlier. Is it Mac just not going
40:04
Speaker 1: to him like he has an option and he's just
40:07
Speaker 1: not throwing to Parker Or is Parker not part of
40:09
Speaker 1: the targeting offense. I don't know. We don't know the answer,
40:13
Speaker 1: you know, because like Paul said, it's not like Mac
40:15
Speaker 1: tried to throw it to him five times and he
40:17
Speaker 1: only caught one. He only went to him twice. And
40:20
Speaker 1: I'll defend Parker and say again, on that deep ball,
40:22
Speaker 1: I thought Parker got open. Now they covered him with
40:25
Speaker 1: a linebacker. You should get open, but he did and
40:28
Speaker 1: he was open, and that was not I don't think
40:29
Speaker 1: that was a tough throw. I think you had all
40:31
Speaker 1: kinds of space to the left, erin out let him
40:34
Speaker 1: run under it to the left, and I think that's
40:36
Speaker 1: a touchdown at least a big play. Maybe Fitzpatrick catches him. Yeah.
40:41
Speaker 1: So do you think Deance Parker might be starting to
40:44
Speaker 1: get a little bit frustrated? I don't know. I haven't
40:48
Speaker 1: hard to say. I haven't heard anything like that, but
40:50
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's worth worth keeping an eye on. Sure,
40:54
Speaker 1: these receivers are a different breed. You know, some of
40:57
Speaker 1: them want there, they don't get theirs and they want
40:59
Speaker 1: their you know born you know, still kind of an afterthought.
41:03
Speaker 1: Parker is out there a lot but not getting a
41:06
Speaker 1: lot of targets. It's something to keep an eye on. Yeah, okay,
41:09
Speaker 1: and that could not leads. Okay, and this one's for you, dude,
41:12
Speaker 1: So your boy Bill Belichick. Huh. Then he passed up
41:16
Speaker 1: on Lamar Jackson and Win got Sony Michelle and uh
41:19
Speaker 1: I win from I'm still reliving the side of Head
41:22
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson. I hate Lamar Jackson. I don't want
41:25
Speaker 1: him what he's kidding. He's kidding. He wanted to see
41:29
Speaker 1: if you can make your head how many He doesn't
41:31
Speaker 1: want to playoff Gamelin. Yeah, I got that with Mac
41:37
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know. I'm not really to be
41:40
Speaker 1: honest though, I mean, I do like Lamar, but I'm
41:42
Speaker 1: not really lamenting that whole situation. I don't. I mean,
41:45
Speaker 1: imagine if a lot of guys imagine if in the
41:47
Speaker 1: in their off seasons, the Red Sox got Aaron Judge
41:51
Speaker 1: and the Patriots got Lamar Jackson. I couldn't see him
41:55
Speaker 1: playing here, to be honest, It'd be awesome just to
41:57
Speaker 1: see how dudes would do mental gymnastics to race him
42:01
Speaker 1: based on that last comage one lamar Yeah, why great,
42:04
Speaker 1: big Lamar Fan. I just don't know if you could
42:07
Speaker 1: fit this right. She's right, Well, he doesn't hit this
42:11
Speaker 1: fit Lamarck. Correct, he would not run this offense. No,
42:14
Speaker 1: but people want to score. Change. I want to score
42:17
Speaker 1: once in a while. You wouldn't run this, well, you
42:18
Speaker 1: change your offense to fit Lamar Jack. That's what Baltimore did,
42:21
Speaker 1: and a lot of people, you know, said, oh, that's
42:23
Speaker 1: a big risk, and it paid off. I mean they
42:25
Speaker 1: had a lot of guts to do that. The Eagles.
42:28
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Yeah, he's proving there a guy who's improved
42:31
Speaker 1: more in the time in the league than Jalen Hurts. Yeah. No,
42:35
Speaker 1: I mean I gotta admit I didn't see that count
42:37
Speaker 1: at the baseline too. We saw him you on camp, Yes, didn't,
42:42
Speaker 1: wasn't processing didn't look and he could run sure, just
42:45
Speaker 1: oh he could always run. But all right, thanks, Well
42:50
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42:55
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42:58
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Speaker 1: Jalen Mills ripped the ball all out Well, don Diante
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Speaker 1: Johnson says the Steelers receiver was downe by contact. After
52:06
Speaker 1: we're hearing the play, we're warning there the runner was
52:09
Speaker 1: down by contact. First found fifth ball thiss me the
52:13
Speaker 1: play bake dropped back a ball count I'm intercepted by Mills.
52:18
Speaker 1: He runs a backlop side of the forty jail and
52:20
Speaker 1: amber to get out of bounds. All on the far
52:22
Speaker 1: side and interception on the reflection that he's a leaping
52:25
Speaker 1: Matt Wilson diving across the middle. With the two added
52:28
Speaker 1: deflection to Jail and Mills on the throw, we'll set
52:31
Speaker 1: your biscuit Stillson with the deflection, Mills with the pit.
52:34
Speaker 1: Patriots takeover with a three nothing lead. Take his in
52:41
Speaker 1: motion to the right trabiscue of the play bake. He's
52:43
Speaker 1: that take the pocket. He's pressured by Jennings, He's pressured
52:45
Speaker 1: by far More and Christian gets to the quarterback near midfield. Excellent.
52:49
Speaker 1: I sat for New England. Excellent job. Anthony Jennings to
52:53
Speaker 1: the strong side, plays the tight end but doesn't lose containment.
52:57
Speaker 1: Makes Trabiski panic and turn back inside and there's far
53:00
Speaker 1: more weight form to clean it up from the gun.
53:03
Speaker 1: With Harris to his left hip, Trubisky hangs the hands
53:06
Speaker 1: at his sides, takes the staff, backs up pocket, squeezing down.
53:09
Speaker 1: Quarterback goes down Tavaya may I'm gonna finish off Trubisky
53:13
Speaker 1: before a guy piles on a half minute and punting
53:18
Speaker 1: left on the crock. In the second quarter, Jones takes
53:20
Speaker 1: the staff on the third down and three gasses in
53:23
Speaker 1: the pocket, throws a long ball right with some contact.
53:26
Speaker 1: I thought it was coming down outside to five and
53:28
Speaker 1: then from the score Angalore touchdown Patriots. Here you go.
53:33
Speaker 1: Somebody make a play and it's Nelson Agilore on the
53:37
Speaker 1: jump ball here Jokes fills it. It's one on one,
53:41
Speaker 1: but Aglord elevates and climbs the back of the defender.
53:46
Speaker 1: That's the way you play receiver when you're making that
53:48
Speaker 1: type of money. Now, gueneral Oshafsky stands to our right
53:52
Speaker 1: outside the fifteen yard line with the far at hash
53:54
Speaker 1: inching form with the staff to Jake Bailey right foots
53:57
Speaker 1: the kick, sure, Oshefsky the catch, call for it. He
54:01
Speaker 1: drops it. Schooler is now for the Patriots. Gone the
54:03
Speaker 1: twenty yard line. Blast year, He's for the coutchdown Patriots.
54:16
Speaker 1: Now Mac Jones takes the staff of drops to the
54:18
Speaker 1: me and the Patriots all right, well even their record,
54:26
Speaker 1: all right, that's the Matt Morrell mash up lapin oh
54:30
Speaker 1: oh was it Lapan and Morrel? Well this week it
54:33
Speaker 1: was is lapin? Oh Lapan? You guys switch off Lapan?
54:37
Speaker 1: Does it every time? Oh? Oh? He? I thought you
54:39
Speaker 1: did it last week because I did, because Lap wasn't here. Yeah,
54:43
Speaker 1: it's back. All right, Well that's good. It's always wicked smart.
54:46
Speaker 1: I always a better mash up with a win. You
54:48
Speaker 1: know who wants to hear about a lost? Oh? God,
54:51
Speaker 1: it I don't know? All right? Web radio at Patriots
54:53
Speaker 1: dot com. Is the email address? Tamara's gone? Did she
54:56
Speaker 1: just I think she's She's just under the table. Oh,
55:02
Speaker 1: I think she had to go take a nap. Oh
55:03
Speaker 1: my god. Um, let's see. Let's go to the email,
55:08
Speaker 1: shall we. Ross is in Minnesota, he says. I hope
55:13
Speaker 1: everyone is having a fantastic day so far. Going to
55:16
Speaker 1: the Patriots and Vikings game on Thanksgiving with my father
55:20
Speaker 1: and brother, wanted to see what you guys are most
55:23
Speaker 1: excited about going into week three. Okay, with the win
55:26
Speaker 1: over the Pittsburgh I'm personally excited to see how this
55:29
Speaker 1: defensive front plays against a scrambling quarterback such as Lamar.
55:33
Speaker 1: I truly believe that our big boys up front have
55:36
Speaker 1: the talent to be one of the best, if not
55:38
Speaker 1: the best, in the NFL. Barmore is a stud and
55:41
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what this defensive squad can
55:44
Speaker 1: do as the season rolls on. Thank you all for
55:46
Speaker 1: the continued coverage of the Patriots. I think the defensive
55:52
Speaker 1: front has been playing well, but Barmore isn't playing every
55:55
Speaker 1: down and is that a good thing or a bad thing? Well,
55:58
Speaker 1: I think he played more in this game, and I
56:00
Speaker 1: think he was a little bit more active in this one.
56:02
Speaker 1: Pull up the stats of exactly where is he Barmore?
56:07
Speaker 1: So he played thirty five snaps fifty nine percent, so
56:09
Speaker 1: you know, more than half. Um, I'm okay with him
56:12
Speaker 1: being in that range, but he's not. He's usually not
56:14
Speaker 1: in there on early downs, right, But he did, I
56:17
Speaker 1: mean to Mike's pony, he played more than guy and
56:19
Speaker 1: gotcha Okay, So all right. I think they got him
56:21
Speaker 1: a little. I mean, I definitely something on the radar
56:24
Speaker 1: for sure of his playtime and just wanting him to
56:26
Speaker 1: be out there. I think he's effective. He had you know,
56:27
Speaker 1: a bunch of pressures and um did he pick up
56:31
Speaker 1: a sack? I just remember him celebrate. I don't think
56:34
Speaker 1: he's been very active so far, and I love barb.
56:36
Speaker 1: You guys know Barmore, Yeah, my my bankie. I don't
56:39
Speaker 1: think he's been overly unjunction with other guys. When it has,
56:44
Speaker 1: it hasn't just been a moment where he just walks somebody,
56:47
Speaker 1: you know, back on skates into into the car. I
56:49
Speaker 1: do think he had an early one of those where
56:51
Speaker 1: he just like bull rushed the guard and disrupted the
56:54
Speaker 1: pocket and he may actually have gotten the sack. It
56:57
Speaker 1: was like one of the one of the first positions
56:59
Speaker 1: he had a sack, yea one. If only, if only
57:03
Speaker 1: we could do that you mimiograph the stats, right, um, yeah,
57:07
Speaker 1: Unfortunately it doesn't smell like it did. Yeah, he got
57:10
Speaker 1: Barmoy was credited with a sack only, but that was
57:13
Speaker 1: one of his two tackles. Yeah, so so clarify this
57:17
Speaker 1: again for me. If you get a sack, you also
57:18
Speaker 1: got a tackle for lost anna QB hit. That's all
57:22
Speaker 1: one play, all one play. I wish I had known
57:24
Speaker 1: that before, got a long time thinking that they were
57:27
Speaker 1: all separate things like if I mean, I mean not
57:30
Speaker 1: only did if you just look, if you just look
57:32
Speaker 1: at it right now, so you had three sacks. It
57:34
Speaker 1: was Jude on to buy in in Barmore. Yeah, and
57:37
Speaker 1: they all had quarterback hits on top of their sacks.
57:40
Speaker 1: They only had three quarterbacks one right, right, and they
57:44
Speaker 1: were all by the same guys. I think this needs
57:46
Speaker 1: to be clarified. I mean, I'm just you know, speaking
57:47
Speaker 1: for people who aren't stat heads, you know, I just
57:49
Speaker 1: I need to know, need the info. Yeah, and I
57:51
Speaker 1: am the furthest from being as stat head as you
57:53
Speaker 1: can get. It's just the traditional stats you're Nathan writes
57:57
Speaker 1: in In the two games so far, the fourth drives
58:00
Speaker 1: for each half have ended as follows, the throw to
58:02
Speaker 1: Parker for a pick, the failed fourth and one on
58:05
Speaker 1: the Miami thirty, the field goal, and then the missfield
58:09
Speaker 1: goal by Folk. Granted, the endings haven't been great, but
58:12
Speaker 1: the drives themselves have looked good, moving the ball, converting
58:15
Speaker 1: third downs. These are usually scripted drives, and I've seen
58:18
Speaker 1: a noticeable difference between these drives and the rest. There
58:21
Speaker 1: are two options, play calling or team execution. But I
58:23
Speaker 1: agree with what you guys have said about play calling
58:26
Speaker 1: not being an issue. So why do you think the
58:28
Speaker 1: team execution is that much better on these drives and
58:32
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be up to par during the rest
58:34
Speaker 1: of the game. I mean even last night with the Titans,
58:37
Speaker 1: their first drive, they go down the field and score
58:39
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, maybe they can stay in the
58:42
Speaker 1: rest of the games. Stunk. Yeah, adjustments and stuff. I mean,
58:45
Speaker 1: I don't want to put too much. Yeah that's it.
58:49
Speaker 1: Team's just I mean, yeah, I think two. Give Patriots
58:52
Speaker 1: credit for the last drive two where they ran the ball.
58:54
Speaker 1: But you know, if you go into the into the game,
58:56
Speaker 1: you know what the plan is. You've all right, this
58:58
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna do. Maybe the first fifty plays
59:00
Speaker 1: are even scripted. You know, there's not the question of
59:03
Speaker 1: all right, they're taking this away. Now we got to
59:04
Speaker 1: start doing this. And I think that's one of the
59:06
Speaker 1: biggest tests of this new offensive setup is you know
59:09
Speaker 1: how well I'm sure that you know, Bill Belichick knows
59:11
Speaker 1: what how he would like to counter certain things that
59:14
Speaker 1: defenses do. I just wonder can they communicate it to
59:17
Speaker 1: the players and get it to be executed that way.
59:19
Speaker 1: I think Bill is so good and I'm dead serious
59:22
Speaker 1: when I say this is not a punchline coming. I
59:25
Speaker 1: think Bill is so good of understanding what the other
59:27
Speaker 1: team is going to do and how they're probably going
59:29
Speaker 1: to prepare to attack you. That he has a plan
59:34
Speaker 1: going into most games that generally works. Right now, it doesn't.
59:37
Speaker 1: I mean, no one's perfect. So there's gonna be games
59:40
Speaker 1: where they go three and out in that first drive too.
59:42
Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, they were very close to
59:44
Speaker 1: going three and out in this drive. You know, Myers
59:48
Speaker 1: got the first down right on the line on a
59:50
Speaker 1: third and like seven where he had to break a
59:53
Speaker 1: couple of tackles. Really tough run after the catch. But
59:57
Speaker 1: I think that's it. I think Mike has it. I
59:59
Speaker 1: think that they have a good plan going in the
1:00:02
Speaker 1: other team adjust to it, and they're generally able to
1:00:04
Speaker 1: slow you down a little bit. I thought in this
1:00:06
Speaker 1: game they moved the ball much better throughout the game
1:00:10
Speaker 1: than they did in the first game. First game, it
1:00:12
Speaker 1: was all about those two drives. Right this game, I
1:00:15
Speaker 1: thought they I mean they had three hundred and what
1:00:18
Speaker 1: was it, three hundred and seventy six yards of offense.
1:00:21
Speaker 1: That's nothing wrong with that. No, they'll take that. Andrea
1:00:24
Speaker 1: New Jersey, first off, I want to give you guys
1:00:26
Speaker 1: some criticism when you were doing your picks last week. Wait,
1:00:30
Speaker 1: you guys skipped over the Patriots. You had turning over
1:00:32
Speaker 1: the page and the mic, but when you went back
1:00:34
Speaker 1: to the Patriots, I noticed no page's turn. He's absolutely right.
1:00:38
Speaker 1: I believe Fred needs to call in scowl for the
1:00:40
Speaker 1: last thirty minutes of the show's good. He's absolutely right.
1:00:44
Speaker 1: I don't think we did. I don't think we did that, Fred.
1:00:48
Speaker 1: Good job by you. Not a great week, but a response,
1:00:51
Speaker 1: I yeah, A little better. Good job by you, a
1:00:54
Speaker 1: little better? Uh Babi from Squanham writes in um, it
1:00:58
Speaker 1: was a good win this week, but I yell. I'm
1:01:00
Speaker 1: starting to notice a pattern with Mac where his celebrations
1:01:03
Speaker 1: can sometimes be a little much. Not trying to sound
1:01:06
Speaker 1: old old man yells at a cloud. I actually like
1:01:09
Speaker 1: the fire he shows, and certainly preferred to the alternative.
1:01:12
Speaker 1: It's just that I feel like sometimes he can be
1:01:14
Speaker 1: a little showboatie or go the crowd, and I worry
1:01:18
Speaker 1: it can fire up an opponent. I know Brady was
1:01:21
Speaker 1: the same way, but that would usually be in route
1:01:23
Speaker 1: to dropping thirty on a team. It feels a little
1:01:25
Speaker 1: disproportionate when Max chirping at the crowd at the end
1:01:28
Speaker 1: of a seventeen fourteen game where he didn't play all
1:01:31
Speaker 1: that great. Is anyone else seeing this or am just
1:01:34
Speaker 1: being a wet blanket. I didn't see what he was
1:01:36
Speaker 1: talking about. I know, Paul know what I'm talking about. Though,
1:01:39
Speaker 1: on the scramble when he when he fell down and
1:01:41
Speaker 1: then the guyed him and he liked. I didn't like that.
1:01:43
Speaker 1: I don't mind his celebrations, though, I don't know. I
1:01:46
Speaker 1: like the quarterback when he gets excited in this. I mean,
1:01:48
Speaker 1: this is the young guy. This is young athletes now everywhere.
1:01:51
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what they're wrong. But I that's
1:01:53
Speaker 1: one thing I used to love. I mean, you know,
1:01:55
Speaker 1: with me, it all comes back to Drew. I used
1:01:57
Speaker 1: to love when Drew would jump in Bruce Armstrong's arms
1:02:00
Speaker 1: after a touch like. I didn't look at that as
1:02:02
Speaker 1: like firing up the other team. So I don't have
1:02:04
Speaker 1: any problem with Max celebrating touchdowns now. I get his point, like,
1:02:08
Speaker 1: and he might be talking about something different that Mike
1:02:11
Speaker 1: and I weren't there. We're on getting ready to do
1:02:13
Speaker 1: the postgame show, so we didn't see this. If he's
1:02:15
Speaker 1: like talking crap leaving the field of a seventeen fourteen win,
1:02:19
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with with the the email or like,
1:02:22
Speaker 1: all right, what did you do? Yeah, well you said
1:02:25
Speaker 1: Brady got into it and as a result got into it.
1:02:28
Speaker 1: Mike Evans gets, uh, suspended, half my half my fantasy
1:02:32
Speaker 1: team is suspended. Yeah, I'm the bad boys of the PO.
1:02:37
Speaker 1: Was that Brady starting that or was he reacting to
1:02:39
Speaker 1: somebody else or what was God, there was some John
1:02:43
Speaker 1: Brady walking back along and and and chirping, and I
1:02:46
Speaker 1: just love angry old Brady, Like he just doesn't care anymore.
1:02:49
Speaker 1: I mean he'll go scream in anybody's face, whether it's
1:02:51
Speaker 1: his team or the other team or doesn't really matter. Yeah.
1:02:54
Speaker 1: But the play that Mike was talking about, that look
1:02:56
Speaker 1: that that run where he slid and the defender basically
1:03:01
Speaker 1: slid to avoid him, you know, when they when there
1:03:04
Speaker 1: was some contact there but not a hit by any means,
1:03:07
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden Mac flies back down to
1:03:11
Speaker 1: the right. The Steeler came in from the left, and
1:03:14
Speaker 1: then he immediately points like he's looking for a flag.
1:03:17
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that is like the weakest sauce.
1:03:20
Speaker 1: I mean, if you get hit and you're looking for
1:03:22
Speaker 1: a flag, that's you know, that's one thing. But he
1:03:26
Speaker 1: didn't even he barely got breathed on, and he's looking
1:03:28
Speaker 1: for a flag. I think they called too many of
1:03:30
Speaker 1: those to begin with. But yeah, I heard someone in
1:03:34
Speaker 1: the radio yesterday criticizing him a caller, not a not
1:03:38
Speaker 1: a fell grown match, which that's part for the coolest flag.
1:03:41
Speaker 1: I love ones like that. When I'm reff in games
1:03:42
Speaker 1: and kids do that kind of thing and I just
1:03:44
Speaker 1: stare at I'm like, what you know, when you're the
1:03:47
Speaker 1: ref and you're the one who has the call, You're
1:03:49
Speaker 1: like I used to say, get up when I did
1:03:52
Speaker 1: like the intrimeral basketball, and the guy would be like
1:03:54
Speaker 1: trying to draw a charge. Get meal basketball, Get up, hey, Marco, smart,
1:03:58
Speaker 1: get up? Tony's is How would you assess strangest performance
1:04:02
Speaker 1: so far? I haven't focused on it, so I'd appreciate
1:04:04
Speaker 1: your assessment. Also, the linebackers, I mean I think, yeah,
1:04:08
Speaker 1: I think they were I think they were better this week.
1:04:10
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I know. Cold Stranger is probably
1:04:12
Speaker 1: getting some undue credit early on because a couple of
1:04:15
Speaker 1: of of Twitter highlights, and then I think Bill clarified
1:04:18
Speaker 1: things a little bit of like all right, let's not
1:04:19
Speaker 1: just act like he shut down Cameron Hayward won on
1:04:21
Speaker 1: won the whole game. So, um, but I think he's
1:04:24
Speaker 1: been pretty good. I mean, I think he's real athletic,
1:04:26
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, he's kind of got that
1:04:28
Speaker 1: tuney look to him where he's able to really crouch
1:04:31
Speaker 1: down and looks like he packs some power and looks
1:04:33
Speaker 1: good on the move. As they've done more of that,
1:04:35
Speaker 1: you know, as they pulled him a little bit. I
1:04:36
Speaker 1: think he looks good on the run, and you know,
1:04:38
Speaker 1: I think he's probably growing. I mean it's the second game.
1:04:41
Speaker 1: So my thing with him, you know, the tape that
1:04:43
Speaker 1: we saw is that sometimes he could get overpowered, and
1:04:46
Speaker 1: like early in camp he was he was like I've
1:04:49
Speaker 1: seen that. Yeah, So like I saw yesterday where he
1:04:53
Speaker 1: would get a good angle on the guy and plan
1:04:56
Speaker 1: his feet so you know, he had the forward position
1:04:59
Speaker 1: and he was holding up pretty well. Yeah, you know, um,
1:05:02
Speaker 1: but you could see still moving back a little bit.
1:05:04
Speaker 1: He's not always stronger than the guy. He's got to
1:05:08
Speaker 1: rely on like that leverage and technique and if he
1:05:11
Speaker 1: gets it right, he's okay. Yeah, And I mean I
1:05:13
Speaker 1: think he can use his athleticism to his advantage in
1:05:16
Speaker 1: those kind of situations where I think he's able to,
1:05:18
Speaker 1: you know, maybe reset a little bit quicker than then
1:05:20
Speaker 1: some guys might be able to. But as for the linebackers,
1:05:24
Speaker 1: I like what they're doing. I mean, they it's just
1:05:26
Speaker 1: it's a conscious shift. It wasn't like I feel like
1:05:29
Speaker 1: we've been saying for years, they've got to get faster
1:05:30
Speaker 1: at linebacker. They got to get faster, and you know,
1:05:33
Speaker 1: and last year the defense kind of looked the same defense,
1:05:35
Speaker 1: especially at linebacker, that you saw for the last five years.
1:05:39
Speaker 1: So now that you've got Mack Wilson, and you know,
1:05:41
Speaker 1: I think we were all like disappointed when you felt
1:05:43
Speaker 1: like you had this guy Mack Wilson and then he
1:05:45
Speaker 1: was in training camp not really didn't really seem part
1:05:47
Speaker 1: of it. So not to say that he is the savior,
1:05:50
Speaker 1: but I like the rotations that they're kind of using
1:05:52
Speaker 1: the way that they're using Bentley and to buy on
1:05:54
Speaker 1: the edge a little bit. I mean, I thought to
1:05:56
Speaker 1: ha had a pretty nice sack where he just tossed
1:05:58
Speaker 1: Naji Harris. I know it's taboo to talk positively about
1:06:01
Speaker 1: Gilani Tavai. Now, I just like I worry. I worry
1:06:05
Speaker 1: that the whole shift was because I think ray Kuan
1:06:08
Speaker 1: McMillan was less than one hundred percent in this game.
1:06:10
Speaker 1: That's what I'm worried about. Yeah, but he was also
1:06:12
Speaker 1: pretty bad less the first week too, And that's why
1:06:16
Speaker 1: where where does it? Where's the line between injury and performance?
1:06:18
Speaker 1: Like like if Tavai didn't have such a big role,
1:06:22
Speaker 1: I would say, oh, maybe they decided to move to
1:06:25
Speaker 1: mac wilson. But I thought Tavai played a lot. Yeah, fourteen,
1:06:29
Speaker 1: Um McMillan had twelve. Yeah, so I worried that if
1:06:33
Speaker 1: McMillan is healthy, he goes back to that role. Yeah.
1:06:38
Speaker 1: And like I'm with Mike, I maybe maybe you're not
1:06:43
Speaker 1: big enough, but I'd rather die with my you know,
1:06:46
Speaker 1: with my my boots on and go down and swing.
1:06:49
Speaker 1: It's just the quicknesses with some some athletes trying to
1:06:51
Speaker 1: make make plays, trying to force the offense to make
1:06:55
Speaker 1: a play as opposed to just running by a guy.
1:06:58
Speaker 1: You know, it's a noticeable difference for me, just like
1:07:00
Speaker 1: it was a noticeable difference get getting to see Davante
1:07:03
Speaker 1: Adams out west of just like whoa this is? But
1:07:05
Speaker 1: to see that kind of ability of stop and start
1:07:09
Speaker 1: and agility to get back and to drop and to
1:07:12
Speaker 1: you know, definitely a bad throw by Trabisky, but but
1:07:15
Speaker 1: an athletic and you know, acrobatic play by Mack Wilson
1:07:18
Speaker 1: to get up in the air. So those are the
1:07:19
Speaker 1: elements I think they've needed. So they're using it. I
1:07:22
Speaker 1: think they're doing a good job. They've got a lot
1:07:24
Speaker 1: of pieces that they're working in. I just I wonder
1:07:26
Speaker 1: how they're gonna continue to evolve over the course of
1:07:29
Speaker 1: the season, because it's just like, I don't want to
1:07:30
Speaker 1: buy right now. I want to see how it looks
1:07:32
Speaker 1: at the end, and hopefully it looks even better than
1:07:35
Speaker 1: I right now. I'm gonna need to see it against
1:07:37
Speaker 1: you know, Buffalo twice. Yeah, Teatrich wise Buffalo getting out
1:07:43
Speaker 1: to do that then you know, then you're really talking. Uh,
1:07:46
Speaker 1: let's go to the Ace ticket helpline. Eldred's on the phone.
1:07:49
Speaker 1: What's up, Eldred tomorrow? How y'all doing good? Good? Great?
1:07:56
Speaker 1: She's not here, but um got and maybe observation Deuce.
1:08:02
Speaker 1: He brought it up like last year, you know, Matt
1:08:05
Speaker 1: was I'm a PenPoint I'm most knew not PenPoint passing,
1:08:09
Speaker 1: but nowhere to go. Yeah, good decisions, Yeah, Josh mc daniel.
1:08:12
Speaker 1: But he don't have nobody like the news corner, so
1:08:15
Speaker 1: you think he might be a little frustrated and don't understand. Yeah,
1:08:18
Speaker 1: I feel the kids. Yeah, No, you're right, You're right.
1:08:20
Speaker 1: I think that's a good way to put it. I don't.
1:08:22
Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's seeing it exactly right
1:08:24
Speaker 1: right now. It's just you know, when you and it's
1:08:25
Speaker 1: easy as the Monday morning quarterback to look at Oh
1:08:28
Speaker 1: look there's a guy wide open right there. But I
1:08:30
Speaker 1: think it's consistent and it's like the throws that he
1:08:32
Speaker 1: usually used to make last year, the ones that I
1:08:33
Speaker 1: feel like he's missing. Yeah, because yeah, Josh on that side.
1:08:37
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he trusted anybody over everybody
1:08:40
Speaker 1: with him besides all year, you know, But I don't know.
1:08:44
Speaker 1: But that's that's one of the questions. Hey, Paul, Yes,
1:08:51
Speaker 1: I know everybody keeps saying, well, I'm a receiver guy.
1:08:54
Speaker 1: We still got receivers, but parking their thing. But I
1:08:57
Speaker 1: know Bill won't do it, no way, but just a
1:08:59
Speaker 1: high purdle. Pursose, what have you called it? Would you
1:09:02
Speaker 1: give a third to Cleveland for Cooper? A third round
1:09:07
Speaker 1: pick for Amari Cooper? Yeah, yeah, I would do that,
1:09:11
Speaker 1: but I mean, I know they won't do it. I'm
1:09:14
Speaker 1: just I'm just, you know, want he's got a you
1:09:18
Speaker 1: know contract too, right that you got acquire. I'd rather
1:09:21
Speaker 1: just get Thornton back and let him play. Yeah, I
1:09:24
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what he what are you
1:09:25
Speaker 1: paying him now? I know. I think that's why I
1:09:27
Speaker 1: don't let him loose. And they thought Gallip gonna be it,
1:09:29
Speaker 1: but well Gallup, I I think, well Gallup is coming back.
1:09:32
Speaker 1: I think this week he's coming off a twenty ecl
1:09:35
Speaker 1: Gallup Like, it's not like he hasn't been good in
1:09:37
Speaker 1: the first two week he didn't play. Yeah, yes, it's
1:09:45
Speaker 1: like the Bucks. Like the Bucks have lost all their
1:09:48
Speaker 1: receivers too. And there you had to sign Cole Beasley
1:09:50
Speaker 1: to the practice squad. Aaron's back in Connecticut, given another
1:09:54
Speaker 1: the shot. Hey Aaron, Hey, thank you, thank you, thank you.
1:09:59
Speaker 1: I do good good? How are you doing good good?
1:10:02
Speaker 1: I'm a right uh happy about to win, but kind
1:10:05
Speaker 1: of kind of kind of weirded out by the team.
1:10:07
Speaker 1: So my question is, seriously, though we're hoping this is
1:10:12
Speaker 1: gonna be like a couple of years things, you know,
1:10:14
Speaker 1: how they did with uh with the other young quarterbacks.
1:10:18
Speaker 1: Jaylor hurts to what they gave him a couple of
1:10:20
Speaker 1: years and they got him some some some superpowers, all
1:10:24
Speaker 1: star all star power. I was gonna wait till like
1:10:27
Speaker 1: the end of Max contract to get him some serious
1:10:30
Speaker 1: help from true number one help. Next next thing we
1:10:33
Speaker 1: did was the cover was bare. We just put something
1:10:35
Speaker 1: in it. Next season, I think it's enough. Ye Next
1:10:39
Speaker 1: season's the year we're gonna We're gonna get him the
1:10:42
Speaker 1: year yep. So this is this is more or less
1:10:44
Speaker 1: just see on what Matt got, what he what he
1:10:46
Speaker 1: can do. I can't do right. We don't want to
1:10:48
Speaker 1: give him. We don't want to. We want to see
1:10:50
Speaker 1: what he can do without the help first. Now I'm
1:10:52
Speaker 1: only kidding, but I think next year I wouldn't be
1:10:55
Speaker 1: surprised if there's some additions to the offense. You're gonna
1:11:00
Speaker 1: have more of cap mean cap space, Myers and Agilore
1:11:04
Speaker 1: free agents. Yeah, I mean you gotta you gotta figure
1:11:06
Speaker 1: some of that stuff out. Yep. No, I do understand that,
1:11:09
Speaker 1: and Agilas can come a long way. I wasn't expecting
1:11:12
Speaker 1: nothing from I'm one of the ones that write them
1:11:14
Speaker 1: off or wrote them off. But yeah, I felt like
1:11:17
Speaker 1: Devant Adams out there. It's kind of hard to get
1:11:19
Speaker 1: excited about parking, I know. I mean, there's a lot
1:11:22
Speaker 1: better receivers than what we have in the league right now.
1:11:25
Speaker 1: But I think next year we're gonna get one of them,
1:11:27
Speaker 1: and then Thornton's and waiting in the wings. I mean,
1:11:29
Speaker 1: don't you know, don't totally write this year off. I mean,
1:11:31
Speaker 1: he he's got some juice to him. I mean, there's
1:11:33
Speaker 1: there's you know, I think they need to figure out
1:11:35
Speaker 1: how to use them exactly right. But he wins his
1:11:38
Speaker 1: first game eligible five Yeah, week five fively. But I
1:11:42
Speaker 1: think the reports were mid to late October, so you
1:11:46
Speaker 1: know who knows? Okay? All right, thanks to darn appreciate it.
1:11:51
Speaker 1: Um let's see. Dave writes in from Bethlehem Patriots fans
1:11:57
Speaker 1: was parsimonious in praise, but Manny p should get an
1:12:01
Speaker 1: atta boy. The fourth quarter run plays were great. Strange
1:12:05
Speaker 1: showed why he was drafted. The timing of those plays
1:12:08
Speaker 1: were perfect. Steelers were gassed by uptempo surprise late in
1:12:12
Speaker 1: this game, and Myers was clutch reliable, Please extend him.
1:12:16
Speaker 1: And how about Mark's job in the kicking game. But
1:12:20
Speaker 1: I don't know what he means by that, Mark, Marks?
1:12:23
Speaker 1: Is this Mark? I don't know, Mark. Yeah, we're having
1:12:27
Speaker 1: trouble writing today. Anyway. Can I just say, like, I'm
1:12:31
Speaker 1: going to reiterate, you want to agree with the No,
1:12:34
Speaker 1: I have no problem. I'm going to reiterate, I have
1:12:36
Speaker 1: no problem with the play calling and all of that stuff.
1:12:39
Speaker 1: This is two games, Unlike most, I don't have a
1:12:41
Speaker 1: problem with them, even when the plays don't work. Um
1:12:45
Speaker 1: lining up and running the ball protecting a three point
1:12:48
Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter is like not imaginative play calling,
1:12:51
Speaker 1: Like that's execution. But can we give the guys that
1:12:55
Speaker 1: that actually blew the holes open on the field the
1:12:57
Speaker 1: credit for moving the ball at the end of the game? Right? Well?
1:13:00
Speaker 1: Liked offensive line coach too, Paul wouldn't every offense I'd
1:13:03
Speaker 1: rather give him credit for that than than an imaginative
1:13:05
Speaker 1: play call. Um wouldn't. Wouldn't any offensive coordinator prefer to
1:13:10
Speaker 1: run the ball three times for a first down while
1:13:12
Speaker 1: protecting the lead in the four minuted offense? Yeah? Right now,
1:13:17
Speaker 1: I think that they probably did some some different things.
1:13:20
Speaker 1: And again this gets back to Patricia as the offensive
1:13:23
Speaker 1: line guy or if it's Billy Yates, I don't know. Um,
1:13:27
Speaker 1: they did some different things with some of the blocking schemes. Um.
1:13:30
Speaker 1: You know, it was funny because I'd be interested. I'm
1:13:34
Speaker 1: not all that interested in hearing about it, but I'm
1:13:36
Speaker 1: sure we are going to hear about it tomorrow. Uh.
1:13:38
Speaker 1: This seems to be a little catfight going on with
1:13:40
Speaker 1: the All twenty two's over the amount of zone runs. Um,
1:13:44
Speaker 1: some thought they saw some Burdard says, no, you didn't. Um.
1:13:48
Speaker 1: So I'll be interested to see what Evan thinks, you know,
1:13:51
Speaker 1: in terms of that. But I don't really care. To me,
1:13:54
Speaker 1: it's did they move the chains? Yes they did? Uh?
1:13:58
Speaker 1: You know, check you did your job, you know, like
1:14:01
Speaker 1: I don't really care if you ran inside gap inside
1:14:03
Speaker 1: zone wide zone gap, I don't really care. Did you produce?
1:14:06
Speaker 1: Did it work? Yeah? Did it work? Yeah? I h
1:14:10
Speaker 1: I found myself last night a little bit. You know.
1:14:12
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate because I think the the storylines have kind
1:14:15
Speaker 1: of been written about this offensive restart. And I do
1:14:19
Speaker 1: think though that there is a really interesting story that
1:14:21
Speaker 1: you'll never get to hear of what Bill Belichick's philosophy
1:14:25
Speaker 1: was in doing this, And you know, we can talk
1:14:28
Speaker 1: about the method of how he did it and what
1:14:30
Speaker 1: he's doing and whether or not people agree with it, fine,
1:14:33
Speaker 1: but I'm sure that there was a lot of thought
1:14:35
Speaker 1: put in by him of how do you how do
1:14:38
Speaker 1: you start over? Like you know what I mean, like
1:14:39
Speaker 1: like I don't think it was just like I'm just
1:14:41
Speaker 1: screwing around. I don't know. Here's Like, I'm sure he's
1:14:43
Speaker 1: put a lot of thought into it. I don't think
1:14:44
Speaker 1: we'll ever get those answers, but I just would love
1:14:47
Speaker 1: to ask him. Everyone's saying you're putting in the Shanahan offense,
1:14:50
Speaker 1: would you say that's accurate? You know, because like what
1:14:53
Speaker 1: are we basing that off of? Like when did that
1:14:55
Speaker 1: become the story that this is a Shanahan offense because
1:14:57
Speaker 1: they ran wide zone. I'll tell you the first couple practice,
1:15:00
Speaker 1: I'll tell you when it did. The day that Kendrick
1:15:02
Speaker 1: Boone sat down with Mike Greece, did he say he
1:15:04
Speaker 1: basically admitted that we're doing a lot of those things. Yeah,
1:15:07
Speaker 1: but we're doing We're gonna use me like Demo samuel
1:15:10
Speaker 1: As like like they do in San Francisco. That's that's
1:15:13
Speaker 1: that's that that's Nope, but that's the genesis of why
1:15:16
Speaker 1: everybody was convict because Fred and I two, we were
1:15:20
Speaker 1: blue in the face. They're not changing the office. Nothing
1:15:23
Speaker 1: to see that that that they're gonna run the same system.
1:15:26
Speaker 1: We were wrong. Yeah, we were wrong. Right, You and
1:15:29
Speaker 1: I were wrong because we were both adamant that they're
1:15:32
Speaker 1: just they're gonna tweak some things, but they're gonna tailor
1:15:35
Speaker 1: it to Mac and do things that he likes to do.
1:15:37
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe they'll throw some RPOs and and
1:15:40
Speaker 1: then Kendrick Bohne basically said, no, we're changing things, and
1:15:44
Speaker 1: then a lot of players during training camp admitted the
1:15:46
Speaker 1: same thing. My question to Bill that I'll never get
1:15:49
Speaker 1: the answer to, much like you'll never get the answer
1:15:51
Speaker 1: to that you have question. My question is why did
1:15:55
Speaker 1: you feel like you had to change the system? Yeah? Right?
1:15:58
Speaker 1: Not not like why the Shanahan or are you running
1:16:02
Speaker 1: the Shanahan? But you had this great offensive system that
1:16:05
Speaker 1: worked flawlessly for over twenty years. Why did you feel
1:16:08
Speaker 1: like it needed to be changed? Yeah? I have an
1:16:12
Speaker 1: answer in my head. I'm just curious to see what
1:16:13
Speaker 1: he would answer. My answer is that he didn't have
1:16:15
Speaker 1: anybody to implement it. Yeah, but I'd like to see
1:16:18
Speaker 1: what he would say to that. Mira writes in from Nigeria.
1:16:22
Speaker 1: First of all, I want to give a shout out
1:16:23
Speaker 1: to Nelson Aghaloor birthday boy, Josh Usher, Mike and when
1:16:27
Speaker 1: you and all the other patriots of Nigerian descent would
1:16:29
Speaker 1: love to see it. Here's my question. At one point
1:16:33
Speaker 1: during Sunday's game, the commentators on CBS, who were horrendous
1:16:40
Speaker 1: by the way, started talking up to Vante Parker and
1:16:44
Speaker 1: asking each other why he wasn't getting more receptions. From
1:16:46
Speaker 1: my perspective, he's not getting targeted because he's not getting results.
1:16:50
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be the contested catch guy, but in
1:16:53
Speaker 1: both weeks his big plays ended up in picks. Meanwhile,
1:16:57
Speaker 1: Nelson Aghalore, j Kobe Myers and Kendrick Bourne are getting separation,
1:17:01
Speaker 1: catching contested balls and converting first down. They weren't getting separation.
1:17:05
Speaker 1: What am I missing contested balls? And what's gonna happen
1:17:08
Speaker 1: to the depth chart when Tykwon Thornton comes off? I
1:17:10
Speaker 1: R I mean, I still think Kendrick Bourne's a candidate
1:17:14
Speaker 1: to get moved, by the way. Remember I brought that
1:17:17
Speaker 1: up last week and I said, I you know, all
1:17:18
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you could see him explode this week,
1:17:20
Speaker 1: and then we'll just say, well, you know, Paul was
1:17:22
Speaker 1: missed that one interesting. Other than that, I just want
1:17:26
Speaker 1: to say I love the show and I tune in
1:17:28
Speaker 1: every week. Fred, please don't retire yet. I have the
1:17:31
Speaker 1: sneaky feeling you're trying to hand the reins over to Deuce.
1:17:35
Speaker 1: Don't go till we get another championship. I'm just gonna say,
1:17:40
Speaker 1: I gotta find somebody who likes Brady. He's like there
1:17:45
Speaker 1: was a subtletude to that last part. Don't go until
1:17:48
Speaker 1: we get another championship. Like you know most content producers
1:17:51
Speaker 1: that you know, I can't go out like this. I
1:17:53
Speaker 1: gotta get another title. You're twenty thirty five. I just
1:17:59
Speaker 1: to go back to Parkers, so many, so much wondering
1:18:01
Speaker 1: on him. It's just again, I think he's just they
1:18:03
Speaker 1: have a very specific thing they like to do with him,
1:18:05
Speaker 1: and I think they view it as their well as
1:18:08
Speaker 1: Like we know we got him with contested catches. We
1:18:10
Speaker 1: can put it up to him, this is what we can.
1:18:12
Speaker 1: This can be a feature of our offense this year.
1:18:14
Speaker 1: And when that play isn't there, then they don't really
1:18:16
Speaker 1: do it. But I don't think that they're he's not producing.
1:18:18
Speaker 1: I think that they're continuing to kind of target him
1:18:21
Speaker 1: with these things in spite of what he does or
1:18:23
Speaker 1: does not produce. I just think they if they're going
1:18:25
Speaker 1: to use him, they need to figure out a way
1:18:27
Speaker 1: to get him more involved in the conventional offense and
1:18:29
Speaker 1: not just make him a shot guy or you know,
1:18:32
Speaker 1: or at some point we're going to see that little
1:18:33
Speaker 1: slant again. I'm sure. I like to get back to
1:18:35
Speaker 1: those slants. I think those were pretty productive in camp
1:18:38
Speaker 1: and the preseason. Position himself. He was open the preseason.
1:18:41
Speaker 1: One they missed him and one he caught. But I
1:18:44
Speaker 1: thought the two plays, like again, the two plays they
1:18:46
Speaker 1: did target him on Sunday, he was open. Yeah, one
1:18:49
Speaker 1: was down the field we talked about. The other one
1:18:51
Speaker 1: was a back shoulder on the sideline that either he
1:18:55
Speaker 1: was wrong for not coming back the timing wise or
1:18:58
Speaker 1: the throw was short one of the two. My guess
1:19:01
Speaker 1: is that Parker was a little off on his timing,
1:19:03
Speaker 1: but that was there. The back shoulder play was there
1:19:06
Speaker 1: on that do you know the one I'm talking about
1:19:08
Speaker 1: right on the left side line. Yeah, And it's also
1:19:11
Speaker 1: I think a departure for them is I think in
1:19:13
Speaker 1: the past, you've seen this role kind of by a
1:19:14
Speaker 1: speed guy. You've seen like Brandon Cooks, or you've seen
1:19:17
Speaker 1: a galore last year, and so you know, I think
1:19:20
Speaker 1: to that regard, they're still trying to figure out how
1:19:23
Speaker 1: to make it work too. Is it's an outside guy
1:19:25
Speaker 1: with not a lot of speed. Colby writes in I
1:19:28
Speaker 1: hate to admit it because I was excited when we
1:19:30
Speaker 1: drafted him, and I was impressed with his play as
1:19:33
Speaker 1: a rookie. But I don't think Mac is the guy.
1:19:36
Speaker 1: His arm strength is terrible, and I don't see it
1:19:39
Speaker 1: getting any better in the future. I think the weak
1:19:41
Speaker 1: arm and the lack of athleticism is holding him back
1:19:44
Speaker 1: and ultimately holding the offense back. Do you agree. If not,
1:19:47
Speaker 1: why I don't agree. I mean, I don't agree that
1:19:50
Speaker 1: that hist lack of athleticism is holding him back. I've
1:19:53
Speaker 1: never I don't remember a play where oh, if he
1:19:55
Speaker 1: was only more athletic, this would have been better. I mean,
1:19:58
Speaker 1: the arm strength stuff, I think he could work around it.
1:20:00
Speaker 1: For me, it's just if he can't do what he
1:20:02
Speaker 1: was good at last year, then that's where I have
1:20:04
Speaker 1: a problem. And if it's the bad decisions and misreads
1:20:08
Speaker 1: and those kind of things, like if you can't do
1:20:10
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to be good at, then that's when
1:20:12
Speaker 1: I have a problem. But I think the arm strength, athleticism,
1:20:14
Speaker 1: those are things he could work around if he was
1:20:16
Speaker 1: playing within the system and finding the right guys and
1:20:19
Speaker 1: making good decisions. I think there's a lot in his
1:20:21
Speaker 1: head right now, and I think he needs to continue
1:20:24
Speaker 1: just to lock in. And I think he's limited. I mean,
1:20:27
Speaker 1: I think that guy's strong, like I don't feel like
1:20:31
Speaker 1: the way the emailer does like he's done. But I
1:20:34
Speaker 1: do think the athleticism holds him back. I think Fred,
1:20:39
Speaker 1: the way you said it earlier in the show about
1:20:40
Speaker 1: you know, he can get on that back foot and
1:20:42
Speaker 1: bang the balls out. Everything is. When everything is right,
1:20:46
Speaker 1: there's no problems with his athleticism. To me, there are
1:20:50
Speaker 1: too many plays in the NFL that need to be
1:20:51
Speaker 1: made differently. I don't think he can consistently do that.
1:20:55
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you he's never done it. He did
1:20:56
Speaker 1: it a couple of times Sunday. He scrambled around once
1:20:59
Speaker 1: on Sunday, really bought himself a lot of extra time.
1:21:02
Speaker 1: And I think he hit Myers on the again, the
1:21:04
Speaker 1: same left sideline in front of the Patriots bay Like,
1:21:07
Speaker 1: really good play buying time. Those are few and far between.
1:21:10
Speaker 1: I think in the NFL today you need to find
1:21:13
Speaker 1: a way to get a guy who can If he
1:21:15
Speaker 1: can't make yards with his legs, he can buy time
1:21:18
Speaker 1: and make throws off platform and and I don't think
1:21:21
Speaker 1: his arm strength allows him to do it. I just
1:21:23
Speaker 1: and that's athleticism to me. Colby says, also, I'll be
1:21:26
Speaker 1: at the Packers game. What should I do in Green Bay?
1:21:28
Speaker 1: And where can I join a Patriots tailgate drink? Well?
1:21:32
Speaker 1: Go go to Facebook the Patriots Tailgate page hand by
1:21:36
Speaker 1: Barry Inc. And if there is anything going on in
1:21:41
Speaker 1: Green Bay, you know, it's usually posted on that page.
1:21:44
Speaker 1: So it's on Facebook, it's called Patriots Tailgate page, and
1:21:49
Speaker 1: people go on and they post, you know, the events
1:21:52
Speaker 1: that they're going to be organizing. I haven't heard anything
1:21:54
Speaker 1: big for Green Bay yet, but you know anything in
1:21:57
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen going on there? When you guys were there
1:22:00
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, Um, not that I recall before the San
1:22:03
Speaker 1: Diego trip, Yeah I wasn't there. Yeah, No, I'm sure
1:22:07
Speaker 1: there'll be something. I was there otherwise, that's a great thing.
1:22:10
Speaker 1: Just show up with the Patriots Jersey wander on the
1:22:12
Speaker 1: parking lot. You'll find some friends. I was there when
1:22:15
Speaker 1: the game that Brett Farve didn't play, is that oh six? Yeah,
1:22:20
Speaker 1: I think we shot him out of that was Aaron Rodgers. No, no, oh,
1:22:23
Speaker 1: it might have been. It might have been Aaron Rodgers.
1:22:25
Speaker 1: But it was like before he ever played. Oh of course, Yeah,
1:22:28
Speaker 1: he hadn't started a game. Yeah, you might be you
1:22:31
Speaker 1: might have It was like thirty five, nothing like Brett
1:22:33
Speaker 1: Farve like, it was like typical, like Brett father plays
1:22:36
Speaker 1: like nine million games in a row. He started that game,
1:22:38
Speaker 1: played like a series and then came out and Rodgers
1:22:40
Speaker 1: came in. Yeah, you might be right. It might have
1:22:42
Speaker 1: been Rogers that came in. I'm pretty sure about it.
1:22:44
Speaker 1: But that's the only time I think I was at Lambau. Yeah,
1:22:47
Speaker 1: it's changed since then. Whenever year that was, they renovated
1:22:50
Speaker 1: a little bit. Um alex and Raleigh writes in uh
1:22:54
Speaker 1: big fan of the show. I think the offense is
1:22:56
Speaker 1: in trouble right now, and the Patriots could be staring
1:22:59
Speaker 1: at one in three after the first four games if
1:23:03
Speaker 1: they don't evolve the offense and play quicker and push
1:23:06
Speaker 1: the ball down the field. I think Mac is capable
1:23:09
Speaker 1: enough to turn this season around, given he had a
1:23:11
Speaker 1: solid first year, but he needs to make a year
1:23:14
Speaker 1: or two jump in order to do so. I think
1:23:16
Speaker 1: when the team is able to get back on track,
1:23:18
Speaker 1: they will play good outside of the division. However, I
1:23:22
Speaker 1: think we drop four division losses, two to Buffalo, two
1:23:24
Speaker 1: to Miami, and the slow start we see happening right
1:23:27
Speaker 1: now is going to keep us out of the playoffs. Hypothetically,
1:23:32
Speaker 1: what if Mac doesn't turn it around and we struggle
1:23:34
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Do the Patriots end up
1:23:36
Speaker 1: with a top pick in twenty twenty three who can
1:23:39
Speaker 1: lead the team if we move away from Mac next year?
1:23:42
Speaker 1: C J. Straub, Bryce Young free agent. Oh man, man boy.
1:23:47
Speaker 1: People are really they're really hedging them early here. But
1:23:51
Speaker 1: I also like how he's like, you know this slow
1:23:53
Speaker 1: start that we're in right now, Well, they're one in
1:23:55
Speaker 1: one right now. They're not in a slow start. Like
1:23:57
Speaker 1: if they lose the next two, yeah, you're one in three.
1:23:59
Speaker 1: That's a slow start. They overcame it last year. Did
1:24:02
Speaker 1: you look that up? Mac? Alright? I couldn't find you
1:24:04
Speaker 1: can't find some media guy. You go, you go to
1:24:07
Speaker 1: throw me the media guy. Oh, I was looking in
1:24:08
Speaker 1: the record book. It's in the media the record book.
1:24:11
Speaker 1: I grabbed the wrong book. No records were much like
1:24:13
Speaker 1: Patriots fans. Duce thinks the NFL record book just has
1:24:16
Speaker 1: Patriots stuff. Well, it used to be that way. It
1:24:17
Speaker 1: used to be the Patriots record book, and then they
1:24:19
Speaker 1: had to you know. That's mean. So yeah, Green Bay
1:24:23
Speaker 1: and oh six, thirty five nothing, that's the game. I
1:24:26
Speaker 1: was thinking of, Yeah, um, oh six, would Rogers have
1:24:29
Speaker 1: been there? Yeah? Right, yeah, oh five he was drafted
1:24:33
Speaker 1: I think ye, or it might have been oh six,
1:24:36
Speaker 1: but thirty five nothing, that's the game. I was thinking
1:24:38
Speaker 1: of Mikes and Vermont one. What's up my puzzle? Do
1:24:42
Speaker 1: you have a puzzled book? How are you guys? Good?
1:24:48
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking McCall um. I have a two part question,
1:24:51
Speaker 1: um time. The first one is, uh, the tight end position,
1:24:58
Speaker 1: you know, two tight ends U. It just seems, you know,
1:25:02
Speaker 1: we heard a lot about that, and uh, every every
1:25:05
Speaker 1: once in a while for a viewers perspective, it's like
1:25:08
Speaker 1: the people are just they just disappear. And I just
1:25:13
Speaker 1: wondered if you could touch upon that. And the second
1:25:15
Speaker 1: part of the question is JJ Taylor. You know, when
1:25:19
Speaker 1: we've seen him play sometimes see he seems like he's
1:25:22
Speaker 1: he's been involved, and I'm surprised that, you know, he's
1:25:28
Speaker 1: been kind of taken away. I know Montgomery's heart, but
1:25:30
Speaker 1: I was just wondering on those two issues, if you could,
1:25:33
Speaker 1: if he could touch upon it, and that would be great.
1:25:36
Speaker 1: Thank you, tight end and J J. Taylor. I think
1:25:40
Speaker 1: the ship is sailed with J J. Taylor. I mean,
1:25:42
Speaker 1: if he was going to be active last week probably
1:25:44
Speaker 1: would have been the week. I mean, he couldn't get
1:25:46
Speaker 1: back in the lineup last year. I just I think
1:25:48
Speaker 1: he's act squad. I don't worry about j J. Taylor.
1:25:51
Speaker 1: He's not gonna make an I was just last week saying, hey,
1:25:54
Speaker 1: maybe they can give him a chance because if he's
1:25:56
Speaker 1: active this week, if they raised him from the practice squad.
1:25:59
Speaker 1: But I don't don't think they see, like, let's get
1:26:01
Speaker 1: him involved and we'll start there. I think he's like
1:26:04
Speaker 1: break glass now the tight end. Eventually, you got to
1:26:07
Speaker 1: get these tight ends involved. They have to produce, you know, um,
1:26:11
Speaker 1: I think every offense in the NFL, at one point
1:26:14
Speaker 1: in a game. You know, your tight end becomes a factor, right,
1:26:17
Speaker 1: Like if you're if you're producing big, then I don't care.
1:26:21
Speaker 1: But when you're scoring seven and seventeen points, you probably
1:26:25
Speaker 1: got to find a way to get some other guys involved.
1:26:26
Speaker 1: I agree with Fred yep, you know, and it's there.
1:26:29
Speaker 1: There's such an outlet for quarterbacks, you know, the whole
1:26:32
Speaker 1: old saying at tight end as a quarterback's best friend. Yeah. Yeah,
1:26:36
Speaker 1: I mean the overall production last week didn't didn't bother
1:26:38
Speaker 1: me that much. But I mean, I think Henry continues
1:26:41
Speaker 1: to be a guy that you know you need to
1:26:43
Speaker 1: rely on in the red zone and you know, get him,
1:26:45
Speaker 1: get him targeted down there. That's a good point too.
1:26:48
Speaker 1: They haven't been in the red zone, yeah, so maybe
1:26:51
Speaker 1: you would see a lot more Henry if they were
1:26:53
Speaker 1: in the red zone more often. I think they've been
1:26:55
Speaker 1: in the red zone three times in the two games. Yeah,
1:26:57
Speaker 1: and one of those they took over at the ten
1:26:59
Speaker 1: yard line and just randed three times into the end zone.
1:27:02
Speaker 1: And again felt some optimism about John who coming into
1:27:06
Speaker 1: this year, and through a couple of games, it just
1:27:09
Speaker 1: seems kind kind of similar. I think, as Paul says,
1:27:11
Speaker 1: it just never never looks smooth or comfortable. It's just
1:27:14
Speaker 1: it always feels like a battle. I've given up on
1:27:17
Speaker 1: that one. Mike's and Winchester Virginia. I had the chance
1:27:21
Speaker 1: to go to the pit game this weekend. Decided to
1:27:23
Speaker 1: go despite the fact that I believe we would lose.
1:27:26
Speaker 1: Didn't think we played all that well overall, but did
1:27:29
Speaker 1: execute well when it mattered. Thought Matt tried to give
1:27:32
Speaker 1: the game away a few times and have no idea
1:27:34
Speaker 1: what we're getting out of Parker so a few times
1:27:37
Speaker 1: where he lined up and had his hands in the
1:27:39
Speaker 1: air as if to say, I don't know what's going on.
1:27:41
Speaker 1: Yeah that was early, Yeah, yeah, I saw that. It
1:27:44
Speaker 1: did feel like the passing game got back to some
1:27:46
Speaker 1: of its roots, with a lot more passes underneath and
1:27:49
Speaker 1: between the numbers compared to what I remember from last week.
1:27:52
Speaker 1: A good sign if you ask me. Thought we were
1:27:54
Speaker 1: able to run the ball with more results this week too.
1:27:57
Speaker 1: Decent game to build off of, but I have little
1:27:59
Speaker 1: hope of anything good coming out of next week's game.
1:28:02
Speaker 1: Verse an angry Baltimore team. Highlight of the day was
1:28:06
Speaker 1: walking back to the car and passing the gates where
1:28:09
Speaker 1: people were waiting for players to come out, and seeing
1:28:11
Speaker 1: none other than boss man Fred kerch Fred, I yelled
1:28:14
Speaker 1: your name a few times and saw you look over,
1:28:17
Speaker 1: very confused as to who would be yelling your name.
1:28:21
Speaker 1: It's almost like I was there to a few people
1:28:23
Speaker 1: around me asked who that was, and I said, none
1:28:26
Speaker 1: other than the creator and host of the longest running
1:28:28
Speaker 1: podcasts in the history of the world. People were very
1:28:32
Speaker 1: disrespectfully unamused. I haven't missed the show in ten years.
1:28:37
Speaker 1: Love what you guys do. Keep up the great work.
1:28:39
Speaker 1: I did hear him? Well, I heard somebody say I
1:28:42
Speaker 1: thought they said my name, and I looked over and
1:28:44
Speaker 1: didn't see anyone in the Patriots Jersey. Maybe I just
1:28:47
Speaker 1: didn't catch you, But like so, I just kept walking.
1:28:51
Speaker 1: The confused look. I can totally envision. Yeah. So, anyway,
1:28:57
Speaker 1: he says, he said he's some speed New Jersey. I
1:29:00
Speaker 1: thought it might be South Brunswere he says, Saddlebrook. So
1:29:03
Speaker 1: that's the saddle Brook I know what, sure, yea, all right,
1:29:07
Speaker 1: so he's now in Winchester, Virginia. But yeah, I heard him.
1:29:11
Speaker 1: Thanks for yelling at me. Cool. Yeah, I know. We
1:29:14
Speaker 1: were we were looking for our bus, which was tucked
1:29:17
Speaker 1: way in the back. There's a whole bus thing going on. Yeah,
1:29:21
Speaker 1: what's going on? See I have done so out of
1:29:23
Speaker 1: the loop Freddy. Well, you know like when we started, Paul,
1:29:25
Speaker 1: there were four buses correct, right, and we were on
1:29:28
Speaker 1: bus four, yes, not to be not to be mixing
1:29:30
Speaker 1: in with the right the privileged folk, and there were
1:29:33
Speaker 1: like some equipment people with us and doctors and everything.
1:29:36
Speaker 1: Now that got expanded to five buses, right, And when
1:29:41
Speaker 1: there's marketing trip, there's six buses. Well we've been now
1:29:45
Speaker 1: kicked off of bus five. So we were on bus
1:29:48
Speaker 1: six with marketing, and marketing wanted all their people sitting together,
1:29:53
Speaker 1: so we were asked to sit in the back of
1:29:54
Speaker 1: bus six. And you know there's a whole there's a
1:29:58
Speaker 1: whole thing going on, so the in the last So
1:30:00
Speaker 1: now because these marketing trips aren't getting any smaller, we
1:30:04
Speaker 1: might even have seven buses. I mean, like, how many
1:30:07
Speaker 1: buses do we need? We used to have four buses
1:30:09
Speaker 1: and it was fun. Do we take that many more people?
1:30:11
Speaker 1: Football wise? I understand the marketing thing is that's the question,
1:30:16
Speaker 1: that's that's odds. So there's five full buses of football personnel, Yes, yeah,
1:30:21
Speaker 1: that's PR. Pr sits with them still. But that's interesting. Yeah,
1:30:25
Speaker 1: so football used football used to sit with us, so Bob,
1:30:28
Speaker 1: I mean PR used to sit with us. Bob soci
1:30:30
Speaker 1: wasn't happy about it, Zolak. You know a couple of
1:30:34
Speaker 1: I said that. I said, listen, we're all going on.
1:30:36
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. But you know, it's a principal thing.
1:30:39
Speaker 1: Now now we're on the back of the last bus.
1:30:41
Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, it is. It's just nowhere left to go.
1:30:44
Speaker 1: I mean, the bathroom of the last bus so removed.
1:30:46
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't chased a bus and a lot
1:30:48
Speaker 1: like because even I can't remember the last trip I
1:30:51
Speaker 1: took with the team that wasn't Super Bowl related. Yeah,
1:30:55
Speaker 1: so yeah, this' it's like, you know, I could care
1:30:58
Speaker 1: less as long as I get my loggage and I don't.
1:31:01
Speaker 1: We're all going to the same place. I don't care
1:31:03
Speaker 1: if I'm last off the bus or for it doesn't
1:31:05
Speaker 1: really matter. But for some people it matters. It's like
1:31:07
Speaker 1: it's just like when you take a regular flight somewhere
1:31:10
Speaker 1: and as soon as the wheels stop, Oh there's always
1:31:12
Speaker 1: that one guy. Oh yeah that is up. The overhead
1:31:16
Speaker 1: is open. Bag just standing there waiting. Yeah, wait, and
1:31:20
Speaker 1: you just sit there and wait. You sit there, Maybe
1:31:22
Speaker 1: you get your phone out, get off airplane mode where
1:31:24
Speaker 1: you check your message. That's my favorite part of the
1:31:27
Speaker 1: plane landing. And then you flip the phone on and
1:31:29
Speaker 1: then get all the messages. I love that part. Yeah.
1:31:32
Speaker 1: How about muting your phone so that we're nine you know,
1:31:35
Speaker 1: it's like okay, or the people get it. You're popular,
1:31:38
Speaker 1: you know, you get a lot of messages. Hello, I
1:31:41
Speaker 1: just landed. We're going to the gate, right the gate.
1:31:44
Speaker 1: I have to I check my bag, baggage Clint right right,
1:31:50
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Rode from Saint Louis writes in web
1:31:53
Speaker 1: radio at pagris dot com, says I'll be driving next week.
1:31:56
Speaker 1: During the first half of the game, was wondering how
1:31:59
Speaker 1: to listen to it. I tried testing it out this
1:32:01
Speaker 1: past Sunday in various ways, and the Patriots app wasn't
1:32:05
Speaker 1: able to find Associate and Zola. The ninety eight point
1:32:10
Speaker 1: five page had two guys just talking about all the
1:32:12
Speaker 1: games in the radio page were just replaying the pregame show.
1:32:16
Speaker 1: I don't have serious XM, so I can't listen to
1:32:18
Speaker 1: the game on that is it a market thing, and
1:32:21
Speaker 1: I have to sign up for NFL Plus. Yeah, you're
1:32:23
Speaker 1: from Saint Louis. You can't listen to the even the radio.
1:32:27
Speaker 1: So but if you do sign up for NFL Plus,
1:32:29
Speaker 1: I think they got some thing going on, so some trials,
1:32:33
Speaker 1: so at least with the audio with their call, you'll
1:32:36
Speaker 1: be able to listen to it. Yeah, I'm glad we
1:32:38
Speaker 1: got that email. Do you remember a couple of weeks
1:32:40
Speaker 1: ago when someone was saying, why doesn't the NFL allow
1:32:43
Speaker 1: out of market people to watch the games? And I
1:32:45
Speaker 1: sort of said, well they do. There's there's things that
1:32:47
Speaker 1: you can buy, right, you know, like the Sunday ticket
1:32:49
Speaker 1: or whatever. I know, there's been all kinds of issues
1:32:52
Speaker 1: from a technical standpoint with direct TV, I guess, or
1:32:56
Speaker 1: just based on Twitter, people have been complaining about the service. Yeah,
1:33:00
Speaker 1: but they have the ability to pay for it. Yes,
1:33:04
Speaker 1: well we did. We got an email and someone's like,
1:33:07
Speaker 1: you know, taking me to task for it. I mean,
1:33:10
Speaker 1: I think sort of in I mean it said what
1:33:11
Speaker 1: all due respect? So I took it that way. I
1:33:13
Speaker 1: took him that. He wasn't like, you know, chastising me,
1:33:16
Speaker 1: but he was like, you you've lived in the market
1:33:18
Speaker 1: all your life. You have no idea what hout to
1:33:20
Speaker 1: market people go through and was talking about how expensive
1:33:23
Speaker 1: it is to which you know, I include this in
1:33:26
Speaker 1: the mail bag this week because that's not exactly true. Like, yes,
1:33:31
Speaker 1: you and I Fred were in the market in our
1:33:34
Speaker 1: sort of you know, childhood years and through our teens
1:33:37
Speaker 1: and whatever, and what happened in the market. When you
1:33:41
Speaker 1: try to watch Patriots game, say in nineteen eighty four,
1:33:43
Speaker 1: you couldn't if it was home, you couldn't watch it
1:33:45
Speaker 1: right because it was blacked out right Hampshire. I would
1:33:48
Speaker 1: have killed for something to buy, you know. Of course
1:33:52
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have paid for My parents would have. But no,
1:33:54
Speaker 1: like we would sit around and like should we go
1:33:58
Speaker 1: up to to Auntie Genie and Uncle John's just you know,
1:34:01
Speaker 1: just watch the game because they were out of market,
1:34:03
Speaker 1: they were up in the Hampshire. You know. I couldn't
1:34:06
Speaker 1: go to a bar, you know, I was too young,
1:34:08
Speaker 1: Like I had no avenue to watch the game. I
1:34:11
Speaker 1: would have loved to have had a direct TV option,
1:34:14
Speaker 1: you know, whether we would have gotten it or not.
1:34:16
Speaker 1: And I understand it's a lot of money. Not everybody
1:34:18
Speaker 1: has the money to do those things, but at least
1:34:20
Speaker 1: there was options to do it. Now there were no
1:34:23
Speaker 1: options then. Now you had to sell out the game,
1:34:25
Speaker 1: and that's not in your control. Yeah, you know. And
1:34:28
Speaker 1: literally we went years where like the Miami game was
1:34:31
Speaker 1: the only game that would be on the home The
1:34:32
Speaker 1: whole Miami game would be a sellout and that would
1:34:34
Speaker 1: be it. Yeah. So a lot of Giants games back
1:34:37
Speaker 1: in the day too, Right, nineteen ninety the last game
1:34:40
Speaker 1: of the year and it was all Giants fans and
1:34:41
Speaker 1: that game was on TV. Jason Strowski missed a field
1:34:44
Speaker 1: goal last play of the game. Well, thank god they
1:34:47
Speaker 1: didn't have direct TV. When Paul was a kid, we
1:34:49
Speaker 1: never been outside. He'd be inside all day. It'd be MLB,
1:34:55
Speaker 1: NFL and he'd never leave the couch back in those days.
1:34:59
Speaker 1: You're right, because I I really liked baseball as a kid.
1:35:01
Speaker 1: You know when when baseball games used to take like
1:35:03
Speaker 1: two hours and twenty minutes. Yeah, well, next year they
1:35:05
Speaker 1: might it's not going to pitch clock, did they really?
1:35:08
Speaker 1: They said that they tried it with minor league and
1:35:10
Speaker 1: to cut twenty minutes off average each game. Yeah, it's
1:35:13
Speaker 1: not going to be that big of a difference for
1:35:15
Speaker 1: the major leagues now because there's still like these like
1:35:18
Speaker 1: ten pitch at bats and you know you gotta take
1:35:21
Speaker 1: you gotta take the first seven pitches. And you know
1:35:24
Speaker 1: why why was it Why was it so much shorter
1:35:26
Speaker 1: back that, because guys got the ball and threw it pitch,
1:35:29
Speaker 1: simple as that. The idea was to pitch to contact.
1:35:32
Speaker 1: Now the idea is to strike every batter out, and
1:35:36
Speaker 1: the idea for the batter is to work the pitch
1:35:38
Speaker 1: count as high as you can get it and get
1:35:40
Speaker 1: that guy out of the game. And back you know
1:35:43
Speaker 1: it was you know, everybody got up, they got in
1:35:45
Speaker 1: the box and they swung the bat if it was
1:35:47
Speaker 1: a strike and put the ball in play. Um, the
1:35:50
Speaker 1: relief pitching was not a specialization like say in the seventies.
1:35:54
Speaker 1: I mean they were relievers, you know, Raleigh Fingers and
1:35:56
Speaker 1: Mike guys like that. But but your starters consistently went
1:36:00
Speaker 1: because right now, an average game now each team is
1:36:04
Speaker 1: using five or six pitchers, just average, Like that's not
1:36:07
Speaker 1: like out of the out of the norm by any means.
1:36:09
Speaker 1: You know, complete games. Yeah, it used to be three maths.
1:36:12
Speaker 1: You got a complete game now, and it leads the
1:36:14
Speaker 1: lead Sports Center, the middle reliever and the closer, and
1:36:17
Speaker 1: that's pretty much. And the middle reliever only pitched if
1:36:19
Speaker 1: the starter got got racked right. Otherwise you just basically
1:36:23
Speaker 1: looking Otherwise you went from start of the closer and
1:36:25
Speaker 1: you didn't have closes When I was a kid, like
1:36:27
Speaker 1: it was just you know, were there more complete games?
1:36:30
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, god, yeah yeah. Sliman in
1:36:34
Speaker 1: the Bay Area, Cold Strange had a great game against
1:36:37
Speaker 1: Cameron Hayward, not taking anything away from him. Some pendants
1:36:40
Speaker 1: are saying this could be a start of vindication for
1:36:43
Speaker 1: Belichick drafting a guard from you Tea Chattanooga. I know
1:36:46
Speaker 1: I spelt this wrong, but have work, have to work
1:36:49
Speaker 1: out of hurry. I didn't see it as validation. I
1:36:52
Speaker 1: still feel they could have gotten Strange and a later
1:36:54
Speaker 1: round and taken another player around one. Also, did I
1:36:58
Speaker 1: hear this right on the broadcast at Patriots considered moving
1:37:01
Speaker 1: up in round one to take Strange? If so, yikes, Anyway,
1:37:05
Speaker 1: happy for the win. Just wanted to get your thoughts
1:37:07
Speaker 1: on Strange so far. Listen, it would be a bigger
1:37:12
Speaker 1: story if they drafted a guard in the first round
1:37:14
Speaker 1: and he wasn't good. You know, that was the point
1:37:18
Speaker 1: I think people said, it's not like they didn't let
1:37:20
Speaker 1: that question it about ten or twelve weeks. No, But
1:37:22
Speaker 1: I know I've seen signs of both, I know. But
1:37:24
Speaker 1: it's not like people didn't like Cole Strange or didn't
1:37:26
Speaker 1: think he could be good. I think the main thing
1:37:29
Speaker 1: was you can get him later, yeah, you know, and
1:37:31
Speaker 1: then you're even smarter now and Cole Strange. Isn't that
1:37:35
Speaker 1: the Patriots move, you know, to get a guy they
1:37:37
Speaker 1: liked as a first rounder in the fourth round. Yeah.
1:37:39
Speaker 1: So I think there were a lot of things going
1:37:42
Speaker 1: on this year in that draft room. Um. I think
1:37:46
Speaker 1: guys that they really wanted went earlier. I think there
1:37:49
Speaker 1: were trades that they liked to have made that they
1:37:51
Speaker 1: couldn't know they couldn't get a partner. And I think
1:37:54
Speaker 1: they went with the safe bet, the safe bet, and
1:37:56
Speaker 1: that's and and the need they needed a guard, go
1:38:00
Speaker 1: with the need they needed the guard. So I will
1:38:04
Speaker 1: be shocked if he doesn't have a If he plays
1:38:06
Speaker 1: more games like he did the opener, that's nothing safe
1:38:09
Speaker 1: about that, I know. But he's gonna get better. I'll
1:38:11
Speaker 1: be shocked if he doesn't have a long and effective
1:38:16
Speaker 1: career in the NFL. Maybe not all with the Patriots,
1:38:18
Speaker 1: but he'll be in the NFL for ten years and
1:38:20
Speaker 1: have a good career. Yeah, I just hope he's he's
1:38:23
Speaker 1: above average. I hope he's good, you know, like worth
1:38:26
Speaker 1: a first round pick. If you're gonna take a guard,
1:38:28
Speaker 1: like he needs to be like a plus guard, you know,
1:38:31
Speaker 1: and that right like that, like those are guys there
1:38:34
Speaker 1: are certain like a handful of guards that probably like
1:38:36
Speaker 1: Paul just named Quentin Nelson being probably the premier guy
1:38:39
Speaker 1: that you can name. That's like he affects the complexion
1:38:43
Speaker 1: of your offense. And you know, I like Colstrane. He's
1:38:45
Speaker 1: a really nice kid. I mean, he's really athletic. I
1:38:48
Speaker 1: can get on many levels why they took him, but
1:38:50
Speaker 1: I still can't shake the feeling of this is year
1:38:53
Speaker 1: one of we're going to rebuild our offense. Could there
1:38:56
Speaker 1: have been another piece that maybe you could have taken
1:39:00
Speaker 1: that would have more of an impact than a guard
1:39:02
Speaker 1: would no offense the guards out there, but you know,
1:39:05
Speaker 1: and I like that they got Thornton, but it's just
1:39:07
Speaker 1: I would have liked to have seen, you know, maybe
1:39:09
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more of an impactful position, even
1:39:11
Speaker 1: if it was just tackle. I know that there probably
1:39:13
Speaker 1: wasn't really a tackle available at that point, but that's
1:39:16
Speaker 1: my fault, and I gotta tell you just based on
1:39:19
Speaker 1: some early indications, some of those tackles haven't looked great.
1:39:22
Speaker 1: Like that from Carolina looked terrible. Yeah, the one from
1:39:25
Speaker 1: NC State Rayman can't get in right Sean and Hazelton Pennsylvania.
1:39:32
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing such hate for a Patriots quarterback by
1:39:36
Speaker 1: the drive by media since Tony Easton or Drew Blitzer
1:39:40
Speaker 1: in the beginning of ninety six by the media till
1:39:43
Speaker 1: he shut up the media with Pro Bowl season by
1:39:46
Speaker 1: the media. By the media, you think just hate from
1:39:48
Speaker 1: the You're in the wrong market. You gotta get to Boston.
1:39:52
Speaker 1: Let's give Maiest. Let's give mac a chance. He has
1:39:55
Speaker 1: Bluto coaching him. I don't want to hear who we
1:39:58
Speaker 1: are going to replace him with neck next year. Give
1:40:00
Speaker 1: the guy a shot. He is not Tom Brady. Nobody
1:40:03
Speaker 1: will be Tom Brady. Just enjoy the season week to
1:40:06
Speaker 1: week and let the chips fall where they may not.
1:40:09
Speaker 1: A Lamar fan, by the way, I hope Belichick has
1:40:11
Speaker 1: a good game plan for this fraud. He doesn't need
1:40:17
Speaker 1: a good game right right, That's the prototypical patriot fan.
1:40:23
Speaker 1: All all the mac hate on this show is emanated
1:40:26
Speaker 1: from listeners, the emails that you're reading. Yeah, I would
1:40:30
Speaker 1: say that I do question his athleticism, but not his
1:40:33
Speaker 1: ability to be the starter. I don't question that at all. Well,
1:40:36
Speaker 1: who was it yesterday? Oh you're a guy Joe Murray, Yeah,
1:40:41
Speaker 1: he started it yesterday morning. Okay, But I'm just telling
1:40:43
Speaker 1: you as us in the media as a rule here
1:40:46
Speaker 1: I think is it? I was going to say, is
1:40:49
Speaker 1: as a rule around here? Mike, you have to back
1:40:52
Speaker 1: this up. It's because you're kind of starting to turn
1:40:56
Speaker 1: a little. That's why I say it. It's almost all
1:41:01
Speaker 1: this guy's the guy that they're doing him with a
1:41:04
Speaker 1: service that you gotta get them some weapons they got
1:41:07
Speaker 1: they put them with these two bozos judge in Patricia.
1:41:10
Speaker 1: It's all a lot of that. I mean, it's not
1:41:14
Speaker 1: would you say it's over ninety percent of the analysis
1:41:17
Speaker 1: is all about how they're setting this guy up. Well,
1:41:20
Speaker 1: it's it's we're not going to be able to fairly
1:41:22
Speaker 1: judge him because of the situation. But everybody thinks he's great.
1:41:25
Speaker 1: He's on the he's only the precipice of of a
1:41:27
Speaker 1: great ten year career. I don't know about that. I
1:41:30
Speaker 1: think people don't know in they're saying. Charles Davis said
1:41:33
Speaker 1: it during the broadcast the other day. Well, he's not
1:41:35
Speaker 1: on in our market. No, But I'm just saying that's
1:41:37
Speaker 1: the media. Yeah. The media perception of mac Jones is
1:41:41
Speaker 1: pro bowler last year. Yea, even though I don't know
1:41:44
Speaker 1: if you know about Josh Allen wasn't a pro bowler
1:41:46
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah. To me, the media is Mike Race
1:41:50
Speaker 1: your guy, but Ard, Tom Curran and um yeah you
1:41:57
Speaker 1: know the touchdown twins, you know, yeah right, yeah, I
1:42:02
Speaker 1: mean I but I would even say the guys on
1:42:04
Speaker 1: the radio, the regulars on the radio, Beatleszo, Tony, Mike,
1:42:08
Speaker 1: um Fourier and the regulars, that's the media. They talked
1:42:13
Speaker 1: every day about the teams, yeah, you know, and the
1:42:16
Speaker 1: vast Again, when I say almost all, I don't mean
1:42:19
Speaker 1: every time. I'm not telling you that there's not one
1:42:21
Speaker 1: guy out there who doesn't think he's the guy. But
1:42:24
Speaker 1: if you listen to Mark Daniels and Jeff Howe and
1:42:27
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Reeve and Phil Perry, Tom, they all
1:42:30
Speaker 1: think that Mac Jones is fine, like he's He's not
1:42:33
Speaker 1: the problem with the offense. There's not a lot of
1:42:36
Speaker 1: they got to get rid of Mac Jones talk in
1:42:38
Speaker 1: New y O him on his batsonsible. I agree, and
1:42:44
Speaker 1: that's why that's what I'm kind of defending the media,
1:42:47
Speaker 1: which I never do because I think we're a bunch
1:42:49
Speaker 1: of bozos. We I said, we are a bunch of bozos.
1:42:53
Speaker 1: I don't think there's been a lot, if any they
1:42:55
Speaker 1: got to get rid of this cud. I think you're
1:42:57
Speaker 1: gonna see with Patriots fans as guys like Lamar Jackson
1:43:01
Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts and Borrow and Josh all these great quarterbacks.
1:43:06
Speaker 1: Now Herbert put up numbers and we're like, you know,
1:43:09
Speaker 1: happy with three hundred and fifty yards of offense, you know,
1:43:12
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty of which was on the ground.
1:43:15
Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be jealousy. I'd be happy with
1:43:18
Speaker 1: that if they could do that, right, they can't. It's
1:43:20
Speaker 1: gonna be right now, it's gonna be jealousy. Where like
1:43:23
Speaker 1: we want that, you know, like and for twenty years
1:43:26
Speaker 1: we had that. Oh yeah, you know, you know, like
1:43:29
Speaker 1: if they ran the ball in the first two games
1:43:31
Speaker 1: the way they did the last drive, I wouldn't care. Yeah,
1:43:34
Speaker 1: like I would take that. But like for seven and
1:43:36
Speaker 1: a half quarters, they really didn't run the ball that
1:43:38
Speaker 1: well either. Yeah, but the last six minutes they drove
1:43:41
Speaker 1: it right down Pittsburgh's throat. I think just the remaining
1:43:43
Speaker 1: schedules why I can't get that worked up, because like
1:43:45
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna find out, you're gonna get to
1:43:47
Speaker 1: see all these great teams that you have to go
1:43:49
Speaker 1: up against. Yeah, and then you'll know as much as
1:43:51
Speaker 1: I want to starting, I mean, is it too early
1:43:53
Speaker 1: to say the schedule starting stingoffing up a little bit.
1:43:56
Speaker 1: Colts doesn't look quite as bad, Browns doesn't look as bad. Well,
1:44:00
Speaker 1: Rounds always had that thing because you knew you weren't
1:44:02
Speaker 1: going to see Deshaun Watson. But like Arizona Arizona Jets,
1:44:06
Speaker 1: you know, Minnesota still kind of looks like Minnesota. And
1:44:08
Speaker 1: after last night, like Kirk Cousins Prime Time, did you
1:44:12
Speaker 1: see that one play with Kyler Murray where he ran
1:44:14
Speaker 1: around and scored the touchdown. Somebody said it looked like
1:44:16
Speaker 1: a kid who just stole his parents' cell phone and
1:44:19
Speaker 1: he's running around with the cell phone. You happen to
1:44:22
Speaker 1: see the end of that game, the scooping score in overtime.
1:44:25
Speaker 1: That's how Arizona one. Did you see that? I don't
1:44:27
Speaker 1: know if I did. So. The Raiders had the ball
1:44:30
Speaker 1: and they were in field goal range. Hunter renfro fumbled
1:44:33
Speaker 1: um and Byron Murphy picked it up and ran it
1:44:35
Speaker 1: back like sixty yards or so for a touchdown. And
1:44:38
Speaker 1: he was one of those he's running, you know, and
1:44:40
Speaker 1: at right as he gets to the goal line, he
1:44:43
Speaker 1: just throws the ball. Yeah, I mean, and you needed
1:44:47
Speaker 1: you needed to Bill Belichick bake sale camera on the
1:44:49
Speaker 1: goal line that he always used to cross. Yeah. They
1:44:52
Speaker 1: reviewed it for a long time. Well, Agalore, even him
1:44:56
Speaker 1: was in. He was in. But still can we wait?
1:45:00
Speaker 1: We said it, can you wait till you hit the
1:45:02
Speaker 1: ground before you throw it out there? It party actually
1:45:06
Speaker 1: said something to him, he was our guest on the post.
1:45:10
Speaker 1: Yeah what did he say? What did ALKALOI say? I
1:45:13
Speaker 1: knew I was there. Sorry, Sorry, he was very Uh.
1:45:16
Speaker 1: I'll bet you he I bet you. Bill talked to
1:45:18
Speaker 1: him about it too, you know. But to play with
1:45:21
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy. They reviewed, They actually went to review for
1:45:25
Speaker 1: a long time. Now. The angles they showed on CBS
1:45:28
Speaker 1: you could never see it. I'm assuming that they had
1:45:31
Speaker 1: something that at least showed it. Yeah, I think that
1:45:35
Speaker 1: if he was if he broke the plane of the
1:45:36
Speaker 1: goal line, he broke it as he went back to
1:45:39
Speaker 1: throw the ball, and as it was thrown forward, he
1:45:42
Speaker 1: probably broke Like that's how close it was. Wow, excited
1:45:46
Speaker 1: And just think about that. If he pulled up to
1:45:49
Speaker 1: Shawn Jackson right and he threw that before he got
1:45:52
Speaker 1: in the end zone, that's a safety rights. That's that's
1:45:58
Speaker 1: a classic Paul right there, breaking down the game situation.
1:46:00
Speaker 1: You know, like exactly who could have happened? It would
1:46:02
Speaker 1: even occurred to me, but that would have been oh no,
1:46:04
Speaker 1: because he just threw it out like he threw it
1:46:05
Speaker 1: out of the end zone like you would have. But no,
1:46:07
Speaker 1: the safety you would have been the game right right,
1:46:10
Speaker 1: like any points ended the game. Yes. The confusion on
1:46:13
Speaker 1: the sideline is they're like, no, he didn't get any
1:46:15
Speaker 1: threw it out? What Oh? And when I tell you,
1:46:17
Speaker 1: they probably reviewed it for a good three or four minutes,
1:46:20
Speaker 1: like it wasn't one of those cursory you know, hold
1:46:23
Speaker 1: on before you know, like yeah, oh on the two
1:46:27
Speaker 1: point conversion play last week, yeah, um, I guess they
1:46:31
Speaker 1: said his elbow just touched the green before clearly Deante Johnson.
1:46:37
Speaker 1: They had a great they had a great replay on
1:46:39
Speaker 1: CBS okay, because yeah, I mean I couldn't tell whether
1:46:42
Speaker 1: like I thought his elbow might have been out, but
1:46:44
Speaker 1: his thigh might have been in, and like which hit first?
1:46:47
Speaker 1: First first look, I was like, I bet you they're
1:46:49
Speaker 1: going to review this, yeh, because it was close. Then
1:46:51
Speaker 1: they showed a replay his elbow was like they had
1:46:54
Speaker 1: it was a good look review and like people in
1:46:56
Speaker 1: the press bottle, that's so funny they just showed the
1:46:58
Speaker 1: Elson Agalore because people in the press box like did
1:47:01
Speaker 1: they review that they should have and like because they
1:47:03
Speaker 1: really fat they reviewed it, And yeah, I saw the patriots,
1:47:06
Speaker 1: you know, speaking of the patriots, the negative patriots media
1:47:10
Speaker 1: like six guys well like that that should be overturned.
1:47:12
Speaker 1: That should be overturned. And Mike and I are like,
1:47:14
Speaker 1: did they not see the replays that the same replays
1:47:17
Speaker 1: they're showing us, because you could clear like I'm not
1:47:20
Speaker 1: telling you he was in by eight feet, but there
1:47:22
Speaker 1: was a view that they showed that he clearly had
1:47:24
Speaker 1: green in between his elbow and the sidelines soon as
1:47:27
Speaker 1: you see that, it's right right? Uh back to the
1:47:30
Speaker 1: Ace ticket houtline. Todd's in North Carolina. Hey, Todd, Yeah,
1:47:34
Speaker 1: that's great. Sure, thanks. I just have a minor request,
1:47:37
Speaker 1: and this is for Fred. You think you could get
1:47:39
Speaker 1: Evan on with the John Rookster maybe more than just
1:47:43
Speaker 1: once a week because those guys are great together and
1:47:45
Speaker 1: I really liked their analysis and their talk and they
1:47:47
Speaker 1: seem to be having some pretty good chemistry. Yeah, John
1:47:50
Speaker 1: rookieson once a week and Evan was with him, so, um,
1:47:53
Speaker 1: well could you do it more than once? Is what
1:47:54
Speaker 1: I'm asking now? Okay, well that was a but Evan
1:48:01
Speaker 1: will be on this show. You can also ask him
1:48:03
Speaker 1: questions on this show. Yeah, so is he gonna be
1:48:06
Speaker 1: on tomorrow? Dudes? You know it's on every week. It's
1:48:10
Speaker 1: been on every week with us since. You know. I
1:48:11
Speaker 1: had some questions for him too, you know, so he's
1:48:15
Speaker 1: our guy, like you know, should have more con but
1:48:19
Speaker 1: like he's our guy, Like you know, are my eyes right?
1:48:22
Speaker 1: You know? What did you see? Because he looks he
1:48:24
Speaker 1: watched the game like four or five times. So if yeah,
1:48:28
Speaker 1: in all seriousness, if someone told you that's what you
1:48:31
Speaker 1: saw was wrong, you would say you that you were wrong. No,
1:48:33
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, it looked like to me Cole Strange
1:48:36
Speaker 1: had a good game, for example, and then like upon
1:48:39
Speaker 1: further review, he could say yeah, that was right he
1:48:42
Speaker 1: did or it wasn't as good as you thought it was.
1:48:45
Speaker 1: There were a lot of you know, like those kind
1:48:47
Speaker 1: of things because it's hard to watch every guy and
1:48:49
Speaker 1: every play. Yeah that I mean, that's a very specific thing.
1:48:52
Speaker 1: You have to watch the game over and over. But
1:48:54
Speaker 1: if you thought a guy had a good game, then
1:48:55
Speaker 1: you watched him well from what you saw, he did well.
1:48:59
Speaker 1: But you know, you not keying on cold Strange every play.
1:49:02
Speaker 1: I want you to have more confidence in yourself. I'll
1:49:04
Speaker 1: be quiet. You saw what you just don't like the
1:49:07
Speaker 1: all twenty two guys col Strange, all twenty two guys
1:49:11
Speaker 1: don't want to be or you know, there's that big
1:49:14
Speaker 1: debate at the end, you know, like where some people saying,
1:49:17
Speaker 1: oh they're you know, I think South Palestoni. You'll start
1:49:19
Speaker 1: at it. It's like, oh, they're running all these zones,
1:49:21
Speaker 1: you know, the wide zone runs, and people said no
1:49:25
Speaker 1: they weren't, you know, so like which is it? You know? Yeah,
1:49:29
Speaker 1: I mean, but they don't know, is what I would
1:49:31
Speaker 1: tell you. No, I think you can tell if it's
1:49:33
Speaker 1: a if it's a zone run, you really can. You
1:49:35
Speaker 1: know it's got that look to it. I know what
1:49:38
Speaker 1: some of them look like, but not all of them. Yeah,
1:49:41
Speaker 1: it's hard. I mean it's hard. I think you can
1:49:43
Speaker 1: you definitely like Look, I like watching the All twenty
1:49:45
Speaker 1: two just because it shows you everything and I feel
1:49:48
Speaker 1: like you actually see what happened without all the camera cuts,
1:49:51
Speaker 1: and it's just each play and there it is, and
1:49:52
Speaker 1: you can look wherever you want and you see exactly
1:49:54
Speaker 1: how the coverage is. I mean, I I just enjoy it.
1:49:56
Speaker 1: I don't try to write up a whole thing and
1:49:58
Speaker 1: try to explain it in coach speak. But I feel
1:50:01
Speaker 1: like I really see the game better when I actually
1:50:03
Speaker 1: get to watch it, which unfortunately is you know, not
1:50:05
Speaker 1: until Tuesday night. But but there's always that level of
1:50:09
Speaker 1: the coaches know what they're looking for and they know
1:50:11
Speaker 1: exactly what should have happened that you never can't quite
1:50:14
Speaker 1: cross that line. So I do think you can get
1:50:16
Speaker 1: up to that line and know a lot, but there's
1:50:18
Speaker 1: always gonna be a one line that you don't know.
1:50:20
Speaker 1: How did you like the Patriots secondary attacked Pittsburgh this week,
1:50:23
Speaker 1: would you think they did more often than not? I
1:50:26
Speaker 1: mean I felt like they were in zone a lot
1:50:28
Speaker 1: on early downs and then they played man on third downs. Yeah,
1:50:31
Speaker 1: I agree. You should see the credit that some of
1:50:34
Speaker 1: the defenders are getting for taking guys out of the game.
1:50:37
Speaker 1: It's just like, this is what that's my point, like, watch, yeah,
1:50:43
Speaker 1: just watch that's all. Like you watch it for you
1:50:46
Speaker 1: like to watch it the second time to see whatever.
1:50:48
Speaker 1: Like that's fine, Like you don't have to write like
1:50:51
Speaker 1: a fifteen hundred word dissertation on the on the third
1:50:53
Speaker 1: down and eight play. That's my problem with the All
1:50:56
Speaker 1: twenty two. A lot of people's not that complicated. A
1:50:58
Speaker 1: lot of people look at it goes, oh, you know, uh,
1:51:01
Speaker 1: Trubisky only had you know, however many throws, you know, completions,
1:51:06
Speaker 1: and well they might have just shut them down. But
1:51:08
Speaker 1: like you said, dudes, if you're watching All twenty two,
1:51:11
Speaker 1: were guys wide open. He just wissed him. You know,
1:51:13
Speaker 1: I think they did. I'm not saying that Patriots didn't
1:51:15
Speaker 1: shut them down. I'm talking about individuals were given credit
1:51:18
Speaker 1: for shutting down, like Chase Claypool. Yeah, like Miles Bryant
1:51:21
Speaker 1: completely dominated Chase Claypool was one of the things I
1:51:23
Speaker 1: saw today. No, he was the one guy on their
1:51:25
Speaker 1: team that was making catches at least early. Well, No,
1:51:28
Speaker 1: he had a very quiet game Laypool. Yeah, he had
1:51:31
Speaker 1: four catches for like twenty six yards. I know they
1:51:33
Speaker 1: all came early, but I would I would just argue
1:51:35
Speaker 1: that they don't have a very sophisticated passing game right now. Yeah,
1:51:39
Speaker 1: I think they have a new quarterback who's getting to
1:51:42
Speaker 1: know what they're doing, and it looks it. I mean,
1:51:44
Speaker 1: I think, like to credit Miles Bryant for shutting down
1:51:49
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool in that game, to me is kind of
1:51:51
Speaker 1: missing the boot. Listen, when when you're talking about the
1:51:53
Speaker 1: Patriots defense versus offense, it's fair to say, yeah, but
1:51:57
Speaker 1: because you know Pittsburgh, it doesn't have a good offense
1:52:01
Speaker 1: right now, let's see next week. You know. That's that's
1:52:05
Speaker 1: the beauty of this thing. Every team, every team is different,
1:52:08
Speaker 1: has a different personality, different players, different matchups, you know,
1:52:12
Speaker 1: so we get to see something completely different next week. Yeah,
1:52:17
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's why you got the win. But
1:52:18
Speaker 1: it's still, you know, is that sense of there's an
1:52:21
Speaker 1: A tier in the NFL, and I don't know if
1:52:23
Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to be in that A tier
1:52:25
Speaker 1: yet there you know, they could be a solid. I
1:52:27
Speaker 1: don't know if they're in the B tier. Yeah, but
1:52:31
Speaker 1: I don't think. I certainly don't put Pittsburgh in a
1:52:32
Speaker 1: B tire and they were life and death to beat them.
1:52:36
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on how many tiers we're talking.
1:52:38
Speaker 1: We'll see, Yeah, masses tears. Anthony's in Toronto, what's up, Anthony? Hey? Hey?
1:52:46
Speaker 1: Um So, if if the same situation happened, let's say
1:52:50
Speaker 1: Scott forbid it happened on this coming Sundy against their evens,
1:52:53
Speaker 1: what the forty nine ers had just happened with Trey
1:52:55
Speaker 1: Lance going down, do you guys think if we had
1:52:57
Speaker 1: a taught by a pick, would we go ahead and
1:53:00
Speaker 1: you know, take a quarterback? I mean, I personally don't
1:53:02
Speaker 1: think we should if we had a top five pick,
1:53:05
Speaker 1: but I think if that's the way it happens, if
1:53:08
Speaker 1: that's the way they get a top five pick because
1:53:11
Speaker 1: Matt got hurt, then no, I wouldn't take a quarterback.
1:53:14
Speaker 1: Oh and he's still got three more years of man.
1:53:15
Speaker 1: If you want it, pick let's say let's say we
1:53:17
Speaker 1: take a top five pick, we take a quarterback. Do
1:53:20
Speaker 1: you think another team in the NFL would trade for Mac?
1:53:22
Speaker 1: Would they give up a first round pick for him? No?
1:53:24
Speaker 1: First round pick? No? I mean, I mean you can
1:53:27
Speaker 1: never say never. But let's say the Patriots completely bottom out,
1:53:30
Speaker 1: Matt gets hurt. You're one in sixteen and you have
1:53:33
Speaker 1: the top pick, and you and one of these quarterbacks.
1:53:38
Speaker 1: I don't think Bryce Young really is that good actually,
1:53:41
Speaker 1: but one of these quarterbacks just just kills it this
1:53:44
Speaker 1: year and he's clearly the next you know, Trevor Lawrence,
1:53:48
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow who comes out of nowhere the last year.
1:53:51
Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule it out. I mean I didn't say
1:53:53
Speaker 1: it rule it out. I've said I answered what I
1:53:55
Speaker 1: would do. If it's not Max's fault that you have
1:53:58
Speaker 1: the top five pick, I wouldn't take a quarterback. Yeah,
1:54:02
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I try to say I wouldn't want to help. Yeah,
1:54:04
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to start over again. Ye. But if
1:54:07
Speaker 1: you pick in the top five and Mac played every game,
1:54:10
Speaker 1: now that's a decision, right, yeah, because now Mac didn't
1:54:13
Speaker 1: play well yet. So do you think the four nines
1:54:16
Speaker 1: are better off without without Land today. Yes, yes, I
1:54:21
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think there's any question will be
1:54:24
Speaker 1: do you think they're playing going forward? Will be you know,
1:54:26
Speaker 1: taking another quarterback? Well, they're probably not going to be
1:54:28
Speaker 1: a five. You know, Garoppolo is actually better off with
1:54:30
Speaker 1: that team. Um, but like, what do you think they
1:54:32
Speaker 1: said to Ty Lance will be the quarterback next year? Really?
1:54:37
Speaker 1: I actually don't think so. I think that's such a
1:54:39
Speaker 1: risk for them. You're now going you know, you've had
1:54:41
Speaker 1: this guy, and you're at any riskier. Won't know what
1:54:43
Speaker 1: they did this year, They had a team that was
1:54:45
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game and they said, Jimmy, thanks
1:54:48
Speaker 1: for the service trays the quarterback. And I think they'll
1:54:51
Speaker 1: do the same thing next year. I can't imagine they're
1:54:54
Speaker 1: going to resign Garoppolo. No, I can't imagine Garoppolo would
1:54:56
Speaker 1: want to resign with a team that's been so blatantly
1:54:59
Speaker 1: just respectable to him. Right right now, he's got a
1:55:02
Speaker 1: great chance. Trey Lance is going to be the quarterback
1:55:05
Speaker 1: next year unless something funny happens. I can't imagine. But
1:55:09
Speaker 1: it is Anthon, It's a great It's it's a great soap. Opera.
1:55:12
Speaker 1: I wrote about that in the notes today. I mean,
1:55:15
Speaker 1: a great soap opera. What do you do what if
1:55:16
Speaker 1: he has what if Garoppolo has a great if Garpolo
1:55:19
Speaker 1: was great again and you make a deep run into
1:55:22
Speaker 1: the playoffs again and god forbid whin the super Bowl? Well,
1:55:25
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you do combine that with the reaction
1:55:28
Speaker 1: that he got from his teammates, like they are clearly
1:55:30
Speaker 1: happy for him. Well you heard that him. Anthony's got it. Yeah,
1:55:35
Speaker 1: I mean I actually brought that up as a possibility,
1:55:37
Speaker 1: but Anthony's right like it. It's an unbelievable soap opera
1:55:40
Speaker 1: that's like waiting to unfold. And it's not like you
1:55:44
Speaker 1: need seven ridiculously stupid things to happen. For all it
1:55:47
Speaker 1: needs to do is he continues to do what he's
1:55:49
Speaker 1: been doing. Right, It's not like he hasn't done it before, right, Thanks, Anthony,
1:55:54
Speaker 1: appreciate the car. I think you're right, Fred. I think
1:55:56
Speaker 1: if he really ultimately had success, I think you do
1:56:00
Speaker 1: everything in your power to trade Trey Lance. Yeah. Now
1:56:03
Speaker 1: I don't think you get in the first round pick
1:56:05
Speaker 1: for him either, Nope, because he hasn't played especially, how
1:56:08
Speaker 1: do they really feel about him right now. That's what
1:56:10
Speaker 1: I'd like to know. Was there some trepidation goal Well,
1:56:12
Speaker 1: you know that the Jimmy G Sign, you know the
1:56:14
Speaker 1: week one Fox pregame show that has Jay Glazier on it,
1:56:19
Speaker 1: He had a long thing about in San Francisco, Shanahan
1:56:24
Speaker 1: and I think Lynch might have been involved too, went
1:56:26
Speaker 1: to the veterans like the Kittles and mcglinchey's and you
1:56:30
Speaker 1: know all those guys Deebo and said, listen, this is
1:56:34
Speaker 1: what we're doing. If we don't have success right away,
1:56:38
Speaker 1: it can't be We need to make a change. You can't.
1:56:41
Speaker 1: You know, we need to be all in. You need
1:56:43
Speaker 1: to support this kid. We got to give him all
1:56:46
Speaker 1: of the tools necessary to succeed, and we can't cut
1:56:50
Speaker 1: bait with him. This is what we're doing. So if
1:56:52
Speaker 1: they thought that much that they needed to have a conversation,
1:56:54
Speaker 1: assuming that that's true, and I think Jay Glazier is
1:56:56
Speaker 1: usually pretty tapped in with the players, if they thought
1:57:00
Speaker 1: that much that they needed to have sort of an
1:57:02
Speaker 1: intervention before it happened, And there's trepidation about Trey Lance, sure, Now,
1:57:06
Speaker 1: I just think that he's a guy that coming from
1:57:09
Speaker 1: a one double a school needs a little time, right.
1:57:12
Speaker 1: I think his skill set his parents. I think you
1:57:14
Speaker 1: watch him. He's got good size, good speed, good arm strength.
1:57:18
Speaker 1: He's gonna need to learn the pro game. He just
1:57:21
Speaker 1: hasn't played a lot of football though, too right. I
1:57:23
Speaker 1: mean miss that this is going to be a killer,
1:57:26
Speaker 1: because this is, you know, another year. A couple of
1:57:29
Speaker 1: quick emails before we wrap it up. Matt's from Madison, Wisconsin.
1:57:32
Speaker 1: He says to the fan going to Green Bay, he
1:57:34
Speaker 1: should go to the stadium view bar. The New Titletown
1:57:37
Speaker 1: district is really nice and he should just walk around
1:57:39
Speaker 1: the tailgate village. But Paul is right. All you can
1:57:42
Speaker 1: really do is drink and eat. There will be some
1:57:44
Speaker 1: live music at and Doozy's most likely he might get
1:57:47
Speaker 1: some grief for being a Patriots fan, but everyone is
1:57:50
Speaker 1: very nice about it. They are I agree with that, ye.
1:57:53
Speaker 1: And then um Alex writes in about Sunday ticket He's
1:57:57
Speaker 1: in Englewood, New Jersey. He says, Alan, I'm a victim
1:58:00
Speaker 1: of the awful Sunday ticket issues. It's been awful to
1:58:03
Speaker 1: try and watch the Patriots because I get the first
1:58:05
Speaker 1: quarter in the fourth quarter two weeks in a row.
1:58:08
Speaker 1: They've been terribly frustrating, also horrible customer service off the soapbox.
1:58:13
Speaker 1: I've been in meetings, so I missed the show. How
1:58:16
Speaker 1: much do we fall credit Mac with what's going on
1:58:18
Speaker 1: with the offense? I give him about seventy five to
1:58:20
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the blame of just not putting receivers
1:58:23
Speaker 1: in the best position. It's curious to your thoughts. Well,
1:58:25
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to listen to the replay, all right,
1:58:29
Speaker 1: So that's it for this. Well, we have a replay.
1:58:31
Speaker 1: It's not like you missed it. Yes, right, We've talked
1:58:34
Speaker 1: about Mac a lot too. Yeah, and we gotta go.
1:58:36
Speaker 1: All right, so we'll be back tomorrow Wednesday with another
1:58:39
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