Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Dr. J. Scott Smitherman, Associate Vice President and CMIO at Providence Clinical Network
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- 0:28Hello, and welcome to the Becker's Healthcare Podcast
- 0:30recorded live at the 9th annual Health IT
- 0:32Digital Health and RCM conference. I'm joined today
- 0:35by Jay Scott Smitherman,
- 0:36chief medical information officer of ambulatory services at
- 0:39Providence.
- 0:41Jay, to get us started, can you please
- 0:42share a bit about yourself, your background, and
- 0:44your role at your organization?
- 0:45Hi. Scott Smitherman.
- 0:47I serve Providence as the CMIO for their
- 0:50employed medical group, the you know, in the
- 0:52outpatient space. We're, you know, large organization on
- 0:55the West Coast, about 10,000 employed doctors.
- 0:59And I have responsibility
- 1:00for,
- 1:02you know, all things related to the EMR
- 1:03and the outpatient space.
- 1:06So AI adoption is exploding right now in
- 1:08health care. In your view,
- 1:10what's the most significant or promising adoption of
- 1:12this technology right now, and how is this
- 1:14informing your organization's innovation strategy?
- 1:18Well, clearly here, one of the biggest hot
- 1:20topics is ambient documentation.
- 1:23I we at Providence have been piloting and
- 1:26using,
- 1:27Nuance's product, DAX,
- 1:29and we have gotten up to
- 1:32almost a 1000 users now,
- 1:3520,000 encounters per week.
- 1:37And this is really transforming,
- 1:39how physicians do their documentation. You know,
- 1:42everybody's talking about physician burnout,
- 1:46and, you know, there's so many technologies that
- 1:49nip around the edges, try to remove a
- 1:50click or 2 here or there. But this
- 1:52here's a, technology that's really transformational
- 1:55in terms of taking a big piece of
- 1:57clinicians work that time spent making their note
- 2:00and and and taking it almost entirely off
- 2:03their plate.
- 2:04So on a daily basis, health care leaders
- 2:07such as yourself are managing greater volumes of
- 2:09data and more devices across a growing number
- 2:11of care settings and populations.
- 2:13In this complex environment, what clinical data integration
- 2:16tools or practices are you seeing drive improvements
- 2:18in patient outcomes and operations?
- 2:21And, do you have an example or 2
- 2:22you can share?
- 2:24You know, we're really excited about the potential
- 2:26for
- 2:28AI to help
- 2:29in all of these complex workflows. One of
- 2:31the biggest dry, drivers of doctor burnout right
- 2:34now is in basket. In basket messages coming
- 2:37in. You know?
- 2:39Physicians are being buried under requests.
- 2:42We've rolled out AI tools to help categorize
- 2:45those messages as they come in and then
- 2:47help drive workflows,
- 2:50so that fewer messages need the physician's attention.
- 2:53And the ones that do are better worked
- 2:55up and,
- 2:56and, you know, can be processed with just
- 2:58a single touch. And we've seen, the application
- 3:01of this tool
- 3:03cut our response times for in half,
- 3:05and then along how long it takes us
- 3:07to respond to a patient and how many
- 3:09messages a medical assistant can process per hour,
- 3:12etcetera.
- 3:14So how can health care organizations
- 3:16better support IT and clinical teams as they
- 3:18carry out innovation efforts, and what is what
- 3:20are some of the common pitfalls here?
- 3:22One of the most common pitfalls I see
- 3:25is, you know, seeing a shiny object, a
- 3:28a a cool piece of technology
- 3:30that doesn't necessarily
- 3:32solve a clinical problem or a a an
- 3:34operational problem that we have,
- 3:37or is at least is not on the
- 3:38top of your list. And so the close
- 3:41partnership between your innovation team,
- 3:43informatics,
- 3:44and operations
- 3:46to decide on what are the highest priority
- 3:48pieces of technology to pursue,
- 3:51because, you know, time spent pursuing a lower
- 3:53priority means that the the the bigger ones,
- 3:56aren't getting addressed.
- 3:57Mhmm. Doesn't mean you shouldn't keep an eye
- 3:59out for what, you know, what's happening in
- 4:01the industry,
- 4:02what what new things are being developed,
- 4:04but you need to make sure that you're
- 4:06focused on your organization's top priorities in these
- 4:08tough times. Perfect. So, you know, being in
- 4:12your role in an ambulatory setting, how does
- 4:14that impact your view of, you know, the
- 4:17adoption of new technologies? And are there any
- 4:19sort of, like, you know, AI tools or
- 4:21technologies in the ambulatory space that you might
- 4:23be really excited about coming down the pipeline
- 4:255, 10 years that, you know, might not
- 4:27be as exciting to people outside of the
- 4:28ambulatory space?
- 4:30I don't know if it's a difference between
- 4:32ambulatory or acute, but what I'm really excited
- 4:35about you know, I I talked a little
- 4:36bit about ambient documentation
- 4:38Mhmm. And and getting the doctor's notes done.
- 4:40And I I see that as just the
- 4:42first step. What I'm what really excites me
- 4:44yes. That takes takes the documentation off the
- 4:47physician, and that's a huge burden reduction.
- 4:49But, you know, what we can do in
- 4:52the future, now that we have an AI
- 4:54listening to the doctor patient conversation in real
- 4:57time
- 4:58and serve up clinical decision support, serve up,
- 5:00you know, tools in the EMR,
- 5:03help with coding, help with HCC guidance, all
- 5:05of these things on that are, you know,
- 5:07are crucial
- 5:08and and really care transformational besides just burden
- 5:11reducing,
- 5:13that were that you know, all of this
- 5:14that was science fiction 3 years ago. Mhmm.
- 5:17And now, you know, while not there yet
- 5:20and nobody, you know, is no you know,
- 5:22we all can see a clear pathway
- 5:24with tools that exist
- 5:25now that these things are going to happen.
- 5:27And so over the next 3 to 5
- 5:29years, I am really excited to, you know,
- 5:32get Ambient in everybody's hands
- 5:34and and then take the next step of
- 5:36of integrating it deeply with the EMR,
- 5:40bringing in contextualized
- 5:41data where, you know, the the AI knows
- 5:43things about the patient beyond what it just
- 5:45what it heard Right. And then, you know,
- 5:47then taking the next step of clinical guidance.
- 5:50So, you know, in your role and in
- 5:52your experience and in what you've learned over
- 5:54the years, what's the biggest piece of advice
- 5:56you would have for other health care leaders
- 5:57as they prepare for, you know, some of
- 5:59these further advancements in technology and greater demands
- 6:01of care? You know, it's crucial to have
- 6:04the clinicians who do the work at the
- 6:06table with you as you're evaluating new technologies,
- 6:09new initiatives,
- 6:11that, you know, you really need to make
- 6:13sure you really understand the the problem,
- 6:16you know, sending your your COO or your
- 6:18CFO to a to a to a meeting
- 6:20like this. How lovely though it may be,
- 6:22if you don't truly kind of understand the
- 6:24problem at the ground level. I I think
- 6:26that the folks who are gonna be successful
- 6:28in the future are not just the ones
- 6:30who invest in the right technologies, but are
- 6:32able to truly integrate that
- 6:35all the way down to the you know,
- 6:36from the patient level when they're you know,
- 6:38patient interaction all the way down to the
- 6:40the physician seeing the patient.
- 6:42And, you know, everybody talks about integration, but
- 6:45what that really means and is it smooth.
- 6:48And those are the folks who are gonna
- 6:49be successful who are able to understand it,
- 6:51you know, soup to nuts. Well, doctor Smitherman,
- 6:53thank you so much for taking the time
- 6:54to join us today. But before I let
- 6:56you go, do you have any final thoughts
- 6:57or advice you'd like to leave with our
- 6:58listeners?
- 6:59No. The the future looks bright for health
- 7:01care. I think, a lot of, you know,
- 7:03current challenges, but
- 7:05I I'm excited to be in this role
- 7:07right now to to have a chance to
- 7:08participate in this kind of AI revolution, and,
- 7:11you know, just excited to see what tomorrow
- 7:13looks like. Well, I love the excitement coming
- 7:15from you. So thank you again for joining
- 7:17us today. I hope you have a lovely
- 7:18rest of your day. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank
- 7:19you.