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Selective Ignorance: Ep. 70 | Court Of Public Opinion Strikes Again · Decisions, Decisions

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  Speaker 1: week's episode. This is Mandy be Welcome to Selective Ignorance,
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  Speaker 1: don't be selectively ignorant with that welcome to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of Selective Ignorance. I'm your host, Mandy B and boy
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  Speaker 1: do we have a lot on the docket to day.
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  Speaker 1: We are starting off with some ignorant takes from our
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  Speaker 1: boy job. We are correcting our IVF mix up. I
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  Speaker 1: am talking about ignorance around the World Cup. And then
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  Speaker 1: we are doing a brief update on or recap on
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  Speaker 1: the b ET Awards that took place on Sunday night.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a sports podcast, but we are talking
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  Speaker 1: about Terry and Arnold, the case that has sent the
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  Speaker 1: Detroit Lions cornerback to jail. Do we blame his friends?
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  Speaker 1: Do we blame his poor decision making? What is to blame?
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  Speaker 2: Then?
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  Speaker 1: And this is America. We are talking the Chase exec
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  Speaker 1: who lost her job for emptying a Nick's trash can
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  Speaker 1: Should people be able to lose their jobs over things
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  Speaker 1: that they do outside of work hours? Our thoughts? Then
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  Speaker 1: the Big Tigger domestic abuse case. Now we do want
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  Speaker 1: to add a trigger warning here because we are of
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  Speaker 1: course talking about domestic violence. However, the Internet does not
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  Speaker 1: appear to be viewing Big Tigger's wife as a victim.
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  Speaker 1: And is it because she has a passed herself? Are
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  Speaker 1: you able to be a victim when there are charges
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  Speaker 1: and lack of evidence against you and things that you've
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  Speaker 1: done in your past. Then in celebrities say the darnest things, y'all,
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  Speaker 1: Oprah winfy Oprah, oprah Winfree baby. Recall the story about
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  Speaker 1: Whitney Houston falling off of her stage and this has
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  Speaker 1: sent the Internet into a storm, pretty much discussing whether
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  Speaker 1: or not you should be able to speak ill of
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  Speaker 1: the dead. Then the last conversation, Lizzo is complaining about
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  Speaker 1: lack of support from label amid her abysmal record sales. Now,
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  Speaker 1: is this a story about where the music industry currently
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  Speaker 1: is or are we just seeing the end of the
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  Speaker 1: bossie body positivity movement. Maybe we're getting into a lot today.
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  Speaker 1: Please buckle up, and if you are easily offended, bitch,
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  Speaker 1: you've come to the right spot. Welcome to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of Selective Ignorance again. I'm your host BDV, joined by
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  Speaker 1: my super producess. Y'all, we got journalism Jason joining us,
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  Speaker 1: not from Jersey but at the Hot ninety seventh studios
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  Speaker 1: up in the NYC.
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  Speaker 3: What's such Jason? How are you say headquarters? But this
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  Speaker 3: is a side room. I couldn't be in the main headquarters.
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  Speaker 2: This time for y'all.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. It's giving cider a bed, give
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  Speaker 1: it close, trying.
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  Speaker 4: To isolate yourself.
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  Speaker 2: From the madness.
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  Speaker 3: It's busycause it's because the holidays are coming up and
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  Speaker 3: like you know, mix sure weekends, so all the DJs
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  Speaker 3: are in and out of the DJ bootes, so I
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  Speaker 3: can't I can't really get up in there.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that is right, Like the actual do.
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  Speaker 1: You have family plans for the Fourth of July this weekend?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go to the beach. I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 2: to the beach.
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  Speaker 3: Do Puerto Rican things at the beach, get my bad Bunny,
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  Speaker 3: playing my nutcrackers, all.
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  Speaker 1: That it's given. You're going to Orchard.
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  Speaker 2: Then, yeah, rockaway we do.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay, Well, I just know the Puerto
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  Speaker 1: Rican's bad take over Orchard Beach.
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  Speaker 2: Bad, Okay that they do that they do.
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  Speaker 1: I have never seen all on. Orchard Beach is the
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  Speaker 1: place where I saw the biggest Puerto Rican flags in
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  Speaker 1: my life. It's like the size of a whole building.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know they made flags that big until
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  Speaker 1: I went to Orchard Beach.
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  Speaker 5: Is it near where Puerto Ricans live, Like is it just.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy like New York beaches and New Jersey beaches
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  Speaker 3: or so like the New Jersey beaches, they checked your ship,
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  Speaker 3: so you can't have drinks right and you have to pay,
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  Speaker 3: oh civilized saying your hair like not in the broken
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  Speaker 3: Serena Carpenter right right to the beach in New York,
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  Speaker 3: it's like crackers. Everybody has their drinks, everybody's playing music,
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  Speaker 3: gigantic flags, like two different temperature checks.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and you can get in the water in Jersey
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  Speaker 1: in New York not so like you want to come
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  Speaker 1: out with six tos.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna say I wouldn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it.
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  Speaker 4: You ever heard of the legend that is lit Marina.
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  Speaker 4: I've heard a lot of Marina. Yes, I've heard people
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  Speaker 4: talk about what your beach is lit Marina without the
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  Speaker 4: lot Marina.
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  Speaker 1: I heard the Breaka back this summer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're doing it fourth of July weekend.
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  Speaker 3: They're doing it for like one it's like one day.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a one day off party joint.
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  Speaker 4: But they did in the interim they had another party
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  Speaker 4: called k Right the same people which are the same people,
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  Speaker 4: right right? Got it? Got it?
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  Speaker 1: You just want to sit here and let people know,
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  Speaker 1: you know a little espanyo talk.
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  Speaker 4: About maybe a little you know, I might have some
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  Speaker 4: you know, I.
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  Speaker 1: See it in the bun you have.
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  Speaker 3: Just like gentrified Now it's like all nice. It's called
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  Speaker 3: like something on the Hudson.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I got to go to New York.
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  Speaker 1: Being New York.
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  Speaker 4: Good start, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: We got the o g pot legend. A king to
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  Speaker 1: my right? You ready, I think I am, y'all a king?
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  Speaker 4: Have you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Old people ship? A king? A king hit me on
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  Speaker 1: the Sunday tip and was like trying to join me
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  Speaker 1: at the farmer's market. He was like, yo, they take
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  Speaker 1: the skin off of the pineapple for you. We was
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  Speaker 1: in there doing old people ship, getting flats in the
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  Speaker 1: fish section like it was like it was real cute,
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  Speaker 1: real cute, real old.
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  Speaker 5: She might give me the backstory because I talk about,
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  Speaker 5: you know, my excursions to the farmer's market.
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  Speaker 4: Right, you won't tell me when you so I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna pull up what upright, let's go. But and
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  Speaker 4: I did.
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  Speaker 1: It was cool, by the way, I say the same
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  Speaker 1: thing to Yomi. Yomi goes to another farmer's market that
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  Speaker 1: I've never been to, and y'all know I'm Asian. Go
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  Speaker 1: to your life is heard over there.
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  Speaker 4: In New York to.
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  Speaker 1: First off, y'all know I am multi racial. And then
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  Speaker 1: y'all know we got the king of headlines in the building,
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  Speaker 1: Jason Jolly.
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  Speaker 4: Pod blessing all the app niggas, What up, what up?
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  Speaker 4: What up? What up? What up?
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  Speaker 1: I'm really excited to hear your ignorant take because you
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  Speaker 1: hit that in the group chat like I got.
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  Speaker 4: With affirmation, because because we got conviction.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, because I saw something that I've had
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  Speaker 6: patients with for long enough at the end of last week,
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  Speaker 6: and now my patience is yeah, my patience is upright,
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  Speaker 6: So now we're going to be different about it.
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  Speaker 1: Just okay, Well, before we get to your ignorance. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, y'all, if things get a little rowdy, all
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  Speaker 1: of us except for Jason, how to shout out tequila, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: And it's because these Nicholas was late.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's why tequila.
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  Speaker 6: You see how the niggas twisted narratives, That's why we're
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  Speaker 6: having this OQUI.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get to our ignorant takes John. I do
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  Speaker 1: want to make a correction. There was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people in the comments about misinformation that was discussed on
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  Speaker 1: last week's pod we talked about the IVA mix up
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  Speaker 1: between the two couples in Orlando. We do want it
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  Speaker 1: to be made clear that before they did the genetic
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  Speaker 1: testing of the baby, they first just saw visual signs
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  Speaker 1: that the baby was not Caucasian, and so there were
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  Speaker 1: headlines that did say that the baby was black or
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  Speaker 1: non white. So there were headlines unfortunately that did, you know,
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  Speaker 1: get us to believe that the baby was black. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: after genetic testing, the baby was one hundred percent South Asian.
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  Speaker 1: Beyond that, there were other people who were missing, I
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  Speaker 1: mean saying that the other parents did not want the baby.
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  Speaker 1: That is also not true.
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  Speaker 4: The yeah where that came from.
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  Speaker 1: The Asian couple that were actual biological parents to the
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  Speaker 1: embryo did say they would have liked to raise the child,
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  Speaker 1: but because of legal things, there's just not enough laws
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  Speaker 1: that protect you know, IVF mixed up like this.
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  Speaker 4: The baby was Asian, was Asian South Asia, So here
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  Speaker 4: we go.
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  Speaker 5: So the issue was that the baby wasn't black, So
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  Speaker 5: what if the baby was Asiatic?
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  Speaker 1: What the fuck is the Asiatic Asian?
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  Speaker 4: Right? Original? Man, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: You take out one or the if you take out
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  Speaker 2: one a tiger like.
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  Speaker 4: Then yeah they're boomed. You have yeah, right, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean or to be fair, I mean being in Asia,
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  Speaker 1: yes they are very fair skin. But you have like
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  Speaker 1: if you go to like I mean clearly like India, Malayia.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah right, we speaking closest to the equator. It's hot
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  Speaker 6: down there, and and you're gonna be here, you're gonna
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  Speaker 6: be dark.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well they're brown according to the ign.
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  Speaker 5: Niggas all over. That's what we were talking about. This
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  Speaker 5: niggas in this whole world. You could go to Indonesia,
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  Speaker 5: you see niggas and not niggas. That's like, oh they
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  Speaker 5: went there, that grew out the soil here.
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  Speaker 4: There, Oh I grew out the soil.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Now, so I would say that was an Asiatic baby.
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  Speaker 5: But when I just looking at the picture the baby,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't zoom in on the picture.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't see like the baby's hair nothing. I just
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  Speaker 6: saw a black baby. I see a baby that's type dark.
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  Speaker 6: I'm thinking of baby's black.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: It could have been a black Dominican baby. It could
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  Speaker 5: have been a black Puerto Rican baby. I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: but it was a little black baby.
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  Speaker 1: Well, everybody in the comments was like, baby, no black,
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  Speaker 1: and they was upset that we were having the conversation
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  Speaker 1: about this baby being.
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  Speaker 5: The two articles that I read initially about that story
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  Speaker 5: said nothing about South Asia at all. Well, that's so
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  Speaker 5: when we report from the sources that we have access to, right,
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  Speaker 5: So there was no error there. It's just that in
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  Speaker 5: the floor information and it happens. It's still developing, so
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  Speaker 5: that's we're able to say, hey, you know what course
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  Speaker 5: correction kind of and.
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  Speaker 4: Here we are.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to start to start being fake outraged.
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  Speaker 4: Us.
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  Speaker 2: Where's the white come from in Tiger Woods?
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  Speaker 1: You know that?
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  Speaker 4: Where's dad?
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  Speaker 2: Where's the white in the cobblin Asian? Because his mom
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  Speaker 2: is Asian? His dad is black?
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  Speaker 4: What is the white?
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  Speaker 1: Wait? They say that because he.
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  Speaker 2: Says he's Comblinadian, Asian and Asian.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I'm not sure, but maybe maybe one of
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  Speaker 1: his parents, maybe one of them is a.
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  Speaker 4: Part white identify that's what the white is. The mom
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  Speaker 4: is the mom I was grand his grandmother. White baby,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't. That's a good question. I
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  Speaker 4: thought about that. You just said that. I was just like,
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  Speaker 4: get in white.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and white kids.
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  Speaker 6: The white liquor that he drinking that keeps from swerving
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  Speaker 6: off the road, is okay?
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  Speaker 5: That they got so dark drinking.
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  Speaker 4: Man, you want from me? All right?
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  Speaker 1: Well, y'all, let's get to your ignorant take.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get right to it, all right.
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  Speaker 6: So I've long said that one of society's ills is
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  Speaker 6: that we have practiced unprotected patriarchy for a long time.
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  Speaker 4: Protected for a long time, but to that point, we
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  Speaker 4: all are.
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  Speaker 6: Open to catching STD socially transmitted diseases because of this patriarch.
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  Speaker 4: You did that, nigga, so we trademarked it right after
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  Speaker 4: the show. So I don't even sorry. I told you
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  Speaker 4: don't do that. Don't make money.
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  Speaker 6: But we've been we've been raw dogging, We've been fucking
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  Speaker 6: women over in terrible ways, all right, And so we
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  Speaker 6: none of us are immune to misogyny. That's men and women,
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  Speaker 6: and it's something that we've all had had to unlearn.
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  Speaker 4: We try to practice. I try to respect people. You know.
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  Speaker 4: I grew up in the middle.
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  Speaker 6: Class household with two parents with a pH d father
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  Speaker 6: and a would alone degree.
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  Speaker 4: You know, so I was taught to respect people.
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  Speaker 6: But but I saw something this weekend that made me
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  Speaker 6: question whether or not my working on my misogyny and
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  Speaker 6: other patriarchal things we've learned through society is worth it.
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  Speaker 6: So if Jay Rock, could you please, could you please
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  Speaker 6: drop my drop my music real quick?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's think it's real quick.
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  Speaker 7: We have our own problems. Tps for both countries extended
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  Speaker 7: multiple times. And look, this has been going on for
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  Speaker 7: over a dozen years. Go home, get out. We know
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  Speaker 7: our countries better than yours. That's because we filled it
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  Speaker 7: with our work, ethic and our culture and our values.
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  Speaker 7: You being here only dilutes it for us, those who
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  Speaker 7: built it and live it. And half of you people,
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  Speaker 7: more than half you won't assimilate. We don't want you,
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  Speaker 7: We don't care if you're offended. Get out, go home,
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  Speaker 7: Go back to fucking Haiti.
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  Speaker 6: Now what you just heard was Megan Kelly going on
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  Speaker 6: a rant celebrating the Supreme Court decision to give Trump
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  Speaker 6: to allow Trump to revoke the temporary protect the status
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  Speaker 6: of Haitian immigrants in America. Roughly three hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 6: thousand is the number that they put out there of
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  Speaker 6: Haitian immigrants who are in this country who are under
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  Speaker 6: temporary protected status. And I'm not gonna lie. After I
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  Speaker 6: watched that clip, I called Megan Kelly all kind of bitches,
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  Speaker 6: crack of bitches and puss ass bitches and funky ass bitches,
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  Speaker 6: and too Short has to give me the favorite now
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  Speaker 6: because it is no longer his how many bitches I
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  Speaker 6: call Megan Kelly? And what I realize is that, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: dog face bitches, sunken face bitches, all kind of bitches.
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  Speaker 6: And what I realized is that I think that my
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  Speaker 6: misogyny stops with white women. I think that's all I
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  Speaker 6: have for these wretched white holes now is misogynist. I
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  Speaker 6: don't have no talking, I don't have no empathy, I
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  Speaker 6: don't have no coom bay y'all for these bitches, for
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  Speaker 6: these bitches like the audacity of this lady. Now, I've
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  Speaker 6: watched Megan Kelly do a lot of foul shit. I've
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  Speaker 6: watched her attack my good sister Jamel Hill. I've watched
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  Speaker 6: her split the hairs on pedophilia about whether a five
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  Speaker 6: year old or fifteen year old is really pedophilia, and
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  Speaker 6: what the difference is in that I watched her say
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  Speaker 6: wild shit about Trayvon Martin. I watched her say wild
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  Speaker 6: shit about all kinds of people. And I'm not Haitian,
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  Speaker 6: but I have good Haitian.
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  Speaker 4: People in my life.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, shout out to tadd Saint Louis, a good mutual
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  Speaker 6: friend of ours. Absolutely shout out the skyya Florid style, HBCU,
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  Speaker 6: shout out to the Podfathers.
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  Speaker 4: Shout out so that.
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  Speaker 6: One of the reasons that all of us is sitting
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  Speaker 6: up here is because of a good Haitian man named
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  Speaker 6: Reggieosa combat Jack. Combat Jack is a Haitian man, proud
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  Speaker 6: Haitian man, who brought a lot of opportunity to a
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  Speaker 6: lot of us.
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  Speaker 4: If you go back to the eighteen hundreds.
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  Speaker 6: The Haitians that arrived here in the States in Virginia
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  Speaker 6: after the Haitian Revolution, after they fought for their freedom,
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  Speaker 6: were also instrumental in helping black people establish Freemason lodgis
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  Speaker 6: so that we can help communicate with each other without
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  Speaker 6: under guise of yeah being away from the appearing eyes
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  Speaker 6: of white people, to help us get off some of
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  Speaker 6: our revolutionaries ship.
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  Speaker 5: So Haitian people are important to black people. Haitian people
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  Speaker 5: are important to America. So I don't know what the
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  Speaker 5: fuck this bitch is talking about. But I'm done with
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  Speaker 5: all of that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm done with all of that.
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  Speaker 6: I think about all the regged white bitches that we've
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  Speaker 6: seen over the past. We've seen maternal instinct that this
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  Speaker 6: wretched bitch. We've seen the wretched bitch that shot the
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  Speaker 6: woman through the door in Florida, calling the little kids
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  Speaker 6: niggers and all that kind of shit.
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  Speaker 4: So we're done with that. We're done with all of that.
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  Speaker 6: So there's not gonna be you know, we're always gonna
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  Speaker 6: speak highly of black women, even if we have to critique,
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  Speaker 6: you know, we.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Don't have to be ugly about it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: But I don't have any more patience for these wretched
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: white holes.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. And that's why when people like
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: try to tie in the label of a feminist with me, bro,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I don't agree with all women and their stances.
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: Yea.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: And when it comes to the intersectionality of feminism, a
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: lot of the times we separate ourselves. When I say
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: we black women separate ourselves from white women all the
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: time because it doesn't align. And to see this it's disgusting.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I love also that that was your rant, because I
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: actually want to piggyback on of your rants. Have had it,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: speaking of Haiti, have at it, speaking of Haiti. So
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to go to my first World
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Cup game.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Did I was jealous of that too.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Listens like it was a good ass time. But it
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: was a good ass time, and we started a bet
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: that we didn't get to complete because it was like
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: a game that didn't match most football games. So hear
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: me out. So I attend the Haiti versus Morocco match
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: where within like the first I don't know, ten to
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, Haiti scores two points. Mind you, for anyone
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: who is unfamiliar with this, Haiti has not scored in
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the World Match in over fifty years. Yes, so this
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: is a massive thing, mind you. Haiti is also already
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: disqualified from advancing by the time we get to this match,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: so they could have scored one hundred Morocco still would
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: have advanced. Right. So I post in my Morocco jerseyness
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: and all the things on social media, and this is
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: where I was met with a lot of the ignorance
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of the American people. First off, so many of my
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: followers were upset at me for rooting for Morocco and
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: not Haiti because of blackness. Let me dig into that, well,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: let me dig into that further. So, as I'm reading
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: these comments, I'm like, what the fuck? And of course,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: because I attend to match, I hashtag it, my algorithm,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: of course is telling me all about the history of
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: all the things. Right, So Haiti is flooded on my
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: feed in my algorithm, and so is Morocco. And so
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I would like to let you guys know, for those
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: of you who are unaware, because this is what I'm hearing.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about how Americans act when you tell
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: them Moroccans are African. You say I'm a Moroccan or
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you say you're rooting for Morocco, and they're like, but
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you don't look African. And basically what I saw is
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: that the consensus is that Moroccans are Middle Eastern. They
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: are not. Yes, they speak African, but they are literally
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: on the continents of Africa. Correct, And so as I'm
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: sitting here, they don't speak Arabic, yes, and so, but
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: regardless of the language, if you look at the oh no,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: my bad I'm at Arabic. But if you look at
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and sorry, y'all, I was corrected because I don't know
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: if y'all heard on me. They speak Arabic. However, if
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: you look at all of the African countries, all of
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the countries on the continents of Africa, all of them
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: speak different languages. Correct, So like, there's no one language
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: that ties you to being African either. And African is
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: also just this word that is literally an entire continent
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: made up of so many different countries. And so anyways,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I just say all of that to say for all
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: of you ignorant as non geographical ass motherfuckers in my
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: comments acting is though I'm rooting for a colonizer of
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: some sort. Morocco is literally on the continent of Africa,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and so me rooting for any team Haiti Morocco. Baby,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I'm rooting for everyone black. Mind you, my sister her
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: daddy got deported back to Haiti, so I wasn't gonna
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: be mad if Haiti won either. I was just enjoying
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: my first match, and sorry, I couldn't split the jersey
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: in house.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Man, he can't have fun, man, he's a Nick fan.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: Nowall fan, now go football and then she and then
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: she wear the Okay see jersey last week.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I was in Oklaho.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: She is, she's sports fluid.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Baby, I'm Drake. No, No, you know how Drake me
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and him got the biracial thing going. I'm gonna just
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: root for everybody when I got people on the team,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: whatever city I'm in. You know, you know he might
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: be rooting for the Rockets because he like Houston. He
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: liked it. I don't know, you ready, when we go,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: depending on the team they play, to the Hawks games.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I'll be rooting for the Hawks. Now.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Actually you're lying right now said we have video of
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you're rooting for the hot Well was because there's video?
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Why and why did I do that? I'm always thinking
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: about the Knicks.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: That's all gay position.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: The rabbit hole goes.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: No, but Jason, I mean I love that your your
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: rant tied into mine because like.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: What's more impact there? Though? What do you mean with
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: his ship? But no, no, no, that was crazy. She's
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: I mean I want to.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Say too if I'm not mistaken, and maybe we can
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: talk about this next week outside of the Supreme Court
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: passing this and the way that they're talking about kicking
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: people out of the country during the World Cup match.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: It's also been interested because we are allegedly right now
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: accepting refugees from South Africa. The Afrikaans Oh my god,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: hold on, which made me upset because I watched this
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: cooking show on Netflix and the way that she made
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: sure to pronounce Afrikaan like that to distinguish herself away
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: from being Afrikaan. It's really interesting now seeing also white
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: people at oblivious to the type of people that are
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: in South Africa because they're allowing them in. So I'll
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: probably play this next week or on a bonus. But
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: there was a back and forth where this white lady
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: was like, see, we're not racist, We're letting Africans into
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the country. So we're letting South South Africa.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw you saw it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: This whole week is because they're There's another I think
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: his name is Brian Emmer, Bruce Emery. He's some kind
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: of he's a state rep in Minnesota. He had another
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: rank this weekend about Haitians and not same thing, some
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: of the same talking points that making Kelly, Hey, they
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: don't assimilate, they don't want to come here, they want
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: to like nobody has to assimilate. That's not part of
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: the the immigration process. You don't have to come here
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: in Hile America. You don't have to come here and
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: learn a national anthem. All you gotta do is come
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: here and pay taxes. Yep, there's no other requirements. There's
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: no requirement to love this country. There's no requirement to
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: kiss the ass of the forefathers or none of that shit.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: All you gotta do is obey the law and pay
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: your taxes.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: So all the other shit they try to kick about, Basically,
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: they're saying, why won't you be more white if you
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: come here? Why want you adopt this white culture? If
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: you come to America from somewhere and guess what we.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: See in today working for the Cubans in Florida, babes
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: just sending you back to your country. All of these
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: like especially the the white passing Latinos, they're seeing how
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: much that axtimity whiteness. They don't say fag.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Bad, But do you think that they're leaning into the history,
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: the complex history between Haiti and Americas as.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: A release of the revolution.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: It could they hold because I always have the mindset
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: that white people, you know, they understand history, even when
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: it's not in their favor, and they hold on to
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: that ship one hundred percent, right, And they'll hold on
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: and hold on and they'll do things today as as
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: a you pertains to being petty to something that happened
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: one hundred years ago. I still hold on because they
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: were in the unfavorable position back well, we.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: Talked about what's what's my man's name? What's the white
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: man we're talking about? We talked about a few episodes
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: ago that was part of project twenty twenty five studied
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: African History.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: And the founder. Yeah, I don't know why I'm blanking
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: to do his name right now, but.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Like twenty five he's a project founder, Yeah, PhD studies
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: and African study.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: African Studies.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know why I'm playing on his white
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: man's name. We talked on a couple of weeks ago.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: But like to your point, though, yeah, they remember all
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: of that ship.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: So like, are y'all is trump pressing the gas on
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: Haitians because they remember how influential Haitians were in the
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: revolution of Black people?
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Do they not want us to be clicked up?
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: Do they not want us to to build that momentum
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: and have that energy and that camaraderie amongst each other.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Like what is it about Haiti that's pressing them so bad?
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of countries that have way more immigrants
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: that come here than people from Haiti. Like it's not
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: even in the top ten of countries who of people
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: who come to America. So what are y'alls pressed about
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: these people?
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: For? What threat do they pose to you?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: And wants to come out? They're smart. Unprotected Patriotism is
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: actually a.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Really good phrase, right because they're they're they're literally using
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: like white passing Cubans and certain people for their vote,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: and then the next day they're like, yo, get out
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: of here, right, And it's it's so funny because it's
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: like they're the ones who are also writing the history books.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: So it's like the thing that they're like hedging to
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: your race. They're using the threat.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Of that to scare people off with it, right, Like
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: even with the Megan Kelly thing, Like she's the same
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: person who said Santa Claus is white, Like you probably
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: saw that Clippers white.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Fighting School is just white.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Right, like and with the certainty that she said it
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: was right. But it's because they're also like they're there
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: it's like the care and the stick, but they're doing
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: it with history and your vote and playing in our
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: face with it.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: So that's why it's very important for you know, us
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: collectively to mash the gas the same way and teach
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: the babies.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: And when I say babies, were all babies in the
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: sense because we have elders, right, But as a community,
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: we need to continue to uplift and educate and just
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: have a collective conscious about these people don't stop.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, they don't.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: And these people weren't here eighty years ago, but they're
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: here because they didn't. They didn't stop studying either, and
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: they always study you. You you, they always study us, right,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: And that's why we have a the book we just
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: ref whatever that the blueprint that we just reference in
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: the The guy who founded it studied African American.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Of course, say you hear how she was talking.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: She was like, oh, this country is like this because
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: of us, because of what we built.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: She wasn't she's wrong, but she wasn't here. You didn't
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: build it.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: But she speaking from a lens that they took and built. Yep,
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: they took and built it. Wasn't like you just decrepit
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: land they took and then they built it in their
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: vision how they wanted to be right.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: But she thinks she gets to lay claim to that.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Of course she does.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: She thinks that that's part of her. She thinks that
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: she is one of the great.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: American And the thing about the thing about being American,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: if you say, but no American, and I say, and
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I say that in it says to say, when you
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: say something enough, you start to believe it. And the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: way that we were taught that this is the best
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: country in the world and to see that literally the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: only thing these foreigners are coming over here liking is rich.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Dressing is fucking embarrassing, Like Crafton made tsa size goddamn
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: branch to let people take it away. But to me
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: seeing even the World Cup players talk about having to
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: travel over borders to come and practice and play these games,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: talking about like this country as as as kind of
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: vile like like why are we here? Why was this
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: not figured out before we got here? And so to me, again,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I think that her saying that a lot of white
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: people saying that makes them believe it to be true,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: because that's what we As long as we keep saying it,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: we're gonna make it true. And what we unfortunately have
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: right now is an administration who's literally willing to rewrite
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: history and stop education on certain things. So it is
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: our responsibility for having these conversations on podcasts, for teaching
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the youth, for going beyond what they're telling us in
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: these books, and you.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Know, discussion, debate with those who are willing to participate. Hellouse,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: that's also key too.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: And be open to being wrong.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: It's like, I don't think they want to be wrong.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Bro, be open to being wrong. We none of us
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: know everything.
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: It means too much of them to for it to
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: be open to be wrong. It means too much of them.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: It's not even, it's not even. They're not arguing facts.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: They're arguing like their existence. It's an existential threat to
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: them for us to be saying any of the ship
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: that we're saying right now.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: So it's like, and that's so to them.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: It's like, you'll never get that kind of good faith
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: out of them because that's not what we're arguing two
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: different things.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: We're arguing too different things.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I get that well, Jason lead us into this is
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: not a sports podcast, but.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: It's over trying to clean your timeline, y'all won't go nowhere.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: What's in the w n B the world right now over.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: They would fake be enamored by the World Cup because
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: they don't want to see the nickson.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: The timeline you won't get over. It's like COVID, all right.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: And then so I'm gonna tee this up. A quick
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: note for y'all.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna blame like the lateness is probably more
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: my fault, but my computer probably is not going to
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: make it past like this segment every thirty minutes in,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: so my shit dies out.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: That's what happened. I'm blaming mirror. So this is not a.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Sports podcast, but there's some interesting sports activities that are
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: happening tangentially.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: So right, So, several people have been arrested.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: In connection with an alleged arm robbery and kidnapping in Tampa,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: and the case has been publicly linked to the Detroit
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Lions cornerback Terian Arnold. He plays football, but this is
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: kind of like a basketball two men that was happening here.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: According to court records, the incident happened in February of
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six at an apartment in Tampa Palms, and
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: so police are alleging that three men were lord into
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: an apartment by a Jasmine Rendazzo and Ariana del Val
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: and investigators say that when one of the men went
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: into the bathroom, he opened the closet and he was
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: come funded by two goons who detectives identified Lindel Hudson
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: and Christian Williams, who allegedly then pistol.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Whipped the victims a good two men.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: That's like old it's like old school stuff.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Were watching exactly it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: So detectives ultimately believe that the case connects back to
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: some reported thefts from a short term run on home
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: that Arnold the football player was renting. So he ended
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: up using either he asked his man's in numb to
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: do the get back or they wanted to protect their
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: homeboy and do the get back. So obviously now it's
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: become front page news. And we have this clip here.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: This is his phone call. This is his his phone
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: call to the police. By the way, he reported stolen
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: items in the amount of about three hundred thousand dollars
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: jewelry and such. So play that.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: Here we go again.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: This is a football player, Jesus Christ and this is
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: a question.
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: Because then anything else for you, that's it? Okay, Uh,
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: your bible, Okay, I got your bible. Was it was
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: it like a personalized bible like expensive or is that stuff?
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: An brother?
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: And of that le security when you get like he
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: wasn't with me because I've been hurt, So yeah, I.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Be going my boys kind of sound. So this is
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: more so one of those.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Things whereby it was bound to have been and whoever
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: did it, they had inside and my inside information.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: What was it like one hundred K in a bag?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: So he's guilty.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: You well, you hear what he's talking about it, okay,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: So no, here's the thing hear me out. So the
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: people in which that they kidnapped and pistol with allegedly
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: all had alibis and did not steal this person's did
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: not steal Terran's property. So what it's looking like is
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: that it wasn't inside job, which he also alluded to
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: in the call. People are suspecting his friends actually set
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: him up, and his friends also convinced him, Hey, you
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: can't let nobody play in your face.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: So now we're trying to we're gonna get it back
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: on both.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Sides and yes, and so if you guys see he
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: did just go to court, and this is something that
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I learned. He approached the stand in a green vest
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: and jumpsuit. A green vest means that you are on
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: suicide watch. So he is currently looking at potentially life
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: in jail over this because I believe it's seven or
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: eight felony counts of kidnapping and of forced with a
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: weapon and all these things. Now, how he got tied
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: into it, unfortunately, is through text messages. There are text
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: messages where he's telling them what to do and how
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: to do it. So he wasn't actually presenting this, but
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: he's part of the conspiracy.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: He was the inside man with the inside information. It
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: sounds like right, and he sounded guilty.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: He was talking.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: It was like the phrasing there's an inside man with
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: inside information.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: It's like you're talking too much.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, what's unfortunate about this is he does appear
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: to come from a really good home. He's from Tallahassee, Florida.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: He went on a podcast I saw, and uh, you know,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: he was kind of sounding like, you know, will you
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: come from where I'm from? You know, there's only a
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: few options. You either got to be a rapper or
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: a baller or end up dead. And the guys interviewing
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: him are like, what school did you go to? He well,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I mean I went to a Catholic school. But and so,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: like you could tell he's also just unfortunately one of
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: those black men that feel the need to be harder. Unfortunately,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: this guy's.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: You don't think about like good like people like.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: It sounds like, let's say you come from a rough upbringing,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: but you excel in something enough, did you have the
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: opportunity to go to like the school?
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: And there he goes. That's it.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: You know, this is happening way too often. I think
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: of an incident with DeAndre Baker former New York Giants.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: It's like, you gotta be mindful of the people around
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: you when you elevate and get to a certain status.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know if they I mean, obviously it's I
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: would imagine it's difficult to have that type of discernment
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: at twenty one, twenty two years old, unless something happens
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: and then you forced to be to have discernment. But
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: I don't know where the solution starts other than you
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: got to have good people around you, because it's no
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: way that he's an NFL football player. He's elevated his status,
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: you know as far as like money.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, fourteen million?
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Why do you have time to be doing all this
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: ship and constructing this plan to do what over.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Two hundred and three and everything, which is a lot
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: of money, But.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: It's just gonna end there, Like you control the narrative.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: You don't this phones stop another thing they be playing
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: with these phones? Yeah, we text. None of this shit
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: is safe, nothing goes anywhere, nothing has ever deleted, nothing
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: is everything. Oh you said you was over here, Well
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: let's go paying the fucking on that.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Now. Let me ask you, I think if you can
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: look it up, I think he's twenty Can you look
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: up his age real quick?
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: And three?
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: He's twenty three years old. He's he's on his rookie
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: contracts still but making like fourteen million dollars, making a
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: lot of money. At what? At what point? At what age?
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: And is there an age that when you reach a
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: certain life level of success is you should start removing
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: people that may or may not be good.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: And sometimes you know, you don't know, you don't know
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: because another thing too, he making fourteen million dollars, he
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: probably feels like he got power do whatever the fuck
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: he wants, because no one's in his circle to tell him, Yo, chill,
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: you don't need to do that. Let's go focus on
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: off season. Let's get get in shape, you know what
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, do some shit for the community. Let's get
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: these kids doing a little summer league.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Right. Where's that energy? Why are we doing that type
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: of what? Okay, but now he's potentially going to be
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: a different life.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, a life of life.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: You work so hard.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: You're talking about as eight year old, You're doing the
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: pee wee league, You're doing.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: All the things.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: Do you know the percentage of people students who make
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: it from high school to college one? Right, it's very
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: slim to play college ball to get us and that's
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: on D one, D two, D three, even the fucking
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: junior college shit to get to the D the D three, Right,
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: and then you actually get drafted, right, you make it
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: and signed to a team and you make a significant
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: amount of money.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: That means he's not a rotational player, he's a starter.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: What story did we just talk about where someone like
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: they didn't take disrespect or like that. We teach that
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't disrespect people, and you got to because this
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: is also it leans what was it the Carmelo Anthony case?
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: There we go, thank you and this is what this
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of. Right, it's a twenty three
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: year old who feels like he got got and had
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: to get his look back because how dare you come
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: to my house still for me and disrespect me? And
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: instead of going through which he did call the cops
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: to file the report. But whether it was his friends
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: or his pride, he felt that he had to take
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: justice into his own hands. And unfortunately, to me, this
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: is the same outcome. Unfortunately that we're seeing is a
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: lot different.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: That was a circumstantial situation. There was a lot of
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: things happened.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: How is this not circumstantial because he felt.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: He's on text message orchestrating. It could have been something
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: that stopped that. The Carmelo thing was things events have
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: happened in real time, and the story is still development
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: because we find out that it wasn't how I was
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: presented to us when he was convicted.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: That still you kidnapped four adults, pencil with them, but
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: some at some point between coming up with this plan.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Even though at some point somebody in your circle, somebody
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: in your life, did you has to tell you that
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: not worth you doing this and risking your entire career
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: in life over getting your look back over this. Yes,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of money, right, Yes, people came in
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: your home and sold from you in disrespect. But the
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: idea that nobody made the conscious effort to stop this
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: plan from going through is unfortunate and what also sexist.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: A lot of the friends seemed to be putting blame
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: on him, like they're they're like to get lesser sentences.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Would like you would have thought with this type of situation,
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: you would have thought, you know, some people learn by
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: watching other people.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: Some people learn by their own experience. Right, you would
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: have thought this guy would have.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Seen what O. J.
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: Simpson went through Jesus and been like, oh, that's not
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: the way to handle it. But the problem is that
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: we had a rich nigga handling shit like a broke nigga.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: You know what's crazy. I actually disagree with you only
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: because he wasn't there, so you know how like we
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: talked about the Gucci man he was, he went with
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: his daddy. Unfortunately in this case, actually I do feel
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: like he did handle it he had his ghouls go
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: do what he wanted to do and wasn't there. Unfortunately, though,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: you got caught because of what the text messages.
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: No, but this is what I'm saying, though, a rich
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: when you get rich, you deal with life differently everybody else.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, when you get right there, you.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: Do things in a way that at that point you
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: have a lot to lose, and you deal with things
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: that say, I have a lot to I'm still gonna
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: handle this, but I have a lot to lose, and.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: So I don't get my hands dirty. I don't go
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: And even.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: When you see mob movies and all this shit, you
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: don't see the Godfather going to do the dirt. You
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: send some niggas to go do whatever you're gonna do.
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: And so you handle this a certain kind of way.
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: In this case, you don't send these niggas. You send
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: some lawyer niggas, you send some police niggas, you send
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: some private investigator niggas, but you don't send people to
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: go do crime regular niggas when you have this kind
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: of money.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: And what sucks heavily about this, y'all know a bitch from.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: Florida, nigga, it's another thing too, jurisdiction. When you do
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: certain thing in certain states, the penalty is more severe
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: Florida historically, don't give a fuck.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Don't give a fuck, but not only that you're a
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: black man.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Don't give a fuck.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Don't give a fuck.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: And if it's I don't know if this will be
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: a jury trial or it's just a judge, but a
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: judge as a singular person, a judge, caause just look
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: at this and be like, young man, you had all
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: this opportunity in front of you, Like.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Why should I be leaning on you? Why should I
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: give you a lesson? Sis? Why should I let you copy? Please?
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I'm curious?
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Orchestrated? What did the kidnapping went? Super ud? Yeah? What
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: if you kill somebody indirectly?
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Is there any point yomi? If you have an idea too,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Is there any time that it's ever worth taking justice
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: into your own hands.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: The only time? Not property? Yeah? Yeah, yes, that's exactly
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: what I was. Your kid.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: You know, we're going back to the mob. They always
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: say no women, no kids, right, Well, your woman and
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: your kid.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: That's tough. Did y'all see the way back to Florida?
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Did y'all see the documentary Perfect neighbor.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, she did that. She was one of
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: the wretched white bitches.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I was talking to go and defend her kids, and
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: she got killed. Like it's tough because and now those
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: babies are left with no mom. I'm very it's very
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: hard hard for me to think of any point where
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: taking justice into our own hands doesn't inevitably result in
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: something like a loss of life, a loss of rights,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: a loss of freedom. And so for me, like when
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: you value your life, I can't right now think of
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: anything that I would give up all of those things
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: or risk my life for, or risk my freedom for
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: because I want to retaliate or get my look backer.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I can't think about it.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: But here's another thing too. If he goes to the courts,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: as you said, then he would be deemed a snitch.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: I don't the reason why.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. How he's handling hand like I
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: can't go to the courts, But yeah you can, nigga,
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: could you? Tax bracket can and rules don't apply to
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: you you at all? Who you don't commit crime?
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: Usually this is an isolated football player. There's no should
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: to your point. Many do I get that. It's like
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: you are playing, you are risking something.
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: By him whatever. Even if it goes right, you're still
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: taking a risk. But I could see you emotionally losing
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: it over your wife, your kids, something like that. Like
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: we just saw the father I was at a Florida
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: two the father who got shot in the face by
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: the way end because he did something to his daughter.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Way by the way. And I know this has been
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: something sent on podcasts since the pandemic and even before
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: those videos. I hate that we get to see those videos.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Like it was literally him walking up to confront and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: he shot him dead point.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: In front of other people, other people and the other
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: kid was trapped up to Yeah, so they knew.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: The thing is I would say with that scenario is
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: you got to understand the times were living in. Yeah,
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: these young boys don't have no emotional in challenges at all.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: They don't know how to form those words.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: I don't even know how to read.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Thing is, you see these videos.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: They just want to back the lost implemented.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: And that's not that's not that's not an indictment on the.
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: Remember a couple of episodes ago we talked about how
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: they do this, the systemic oppression through education the same thing.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: So then removing the ability to do cursive that's intentional,
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: of course, but that's real quick think.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Howd on do you write it? Do we as adults, though,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: do we write a cursive?
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: I do, all right?
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: When do you write a cursive?
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: Signing?
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Things about your signature?
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, so years ago when I was you.
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: Know, when you you write passionate letters to you know.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: What I'm saying some ships up now, this is a
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: big blue bottle and to use a little white out
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: if you make make an error.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: You were not using white out and king.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: But look, I think the father in that case he
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: should have read the room, protect his daughter, let it slide,
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: but be prepared that.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: He might have to shoot one of the no niggas. Yeah,
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: and the fact that he did, he tried to go
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: out there with big brodick arm like, Yo, what up,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna beat your ass.
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a different There's different about how that's family.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: That's a different thing.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I will say too, if you guys want to just
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: dig deeper, y'all know that I have an affinity for
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: the gangs in Jacksonville, Florida. And the Julio folio case
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: has a trial has looked like it's come to an
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: end for a lot of the the people who orchestrated
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: the killing, and one of the gentlemen specifically, I want
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: to give you his name, because they've been showing that
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: he also came from a good household, traveled the country,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: was a photographer, came from a good home and was
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: that actually responsible for trying to take the life of
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Julio twice Sean Gathwright, who has taken responsibility, but who
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: is pleading for leniency. And it's just crazy because when
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: you look at these young these young boys thinking that
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: you could get away with killing someone like he literally
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: had a piece on his on an AR fifteen that
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: caught the casings in that this was planned. Y'all drove
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: down to Tampa. So again going back to at any
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: point somebody saying, Yo, this isn't worth it. I don't
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: want to hear y'all crying on the stands pleading for
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: leniency for something that you had ample time to second
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: guests and choose to not do.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: You didn't have to go down there route.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Speaking of not having to go down that route in
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: this if America, Babe, a woman was caught on video
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: emptying a public trash can on the streets. This is,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: of course, during the New York Knicks championship parade. She
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: has been identified as the director at JP Morgan Chase,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: the director of DEI might.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: I add three hundred thousand dollars plus per year salary.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: And she was recently let go and fired from her
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: job from her role for doing this. Now what's crazy
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: is the post has learned that dumping trash onto the
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: street and stealing public property for your own personal use
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: while illegal anti social. She did not get charged for it,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: right right, So she unfortunately has lost her jobs due
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: to the court of public opinion.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Now you said, why everybody filming shit? Right?
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hearing out?
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: You got to be responsible enough and mindful enough that
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: you're not picking up a piece of paper and running
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: with it. You in broad day. Look at the back
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: of that picture. You see all these people in the background.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: R big.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: You were looking at her back because that's a big back.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: That's a big old bag.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: It's a lot to unpackage. Got to snap back with bom.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: The snap back is crazy, right, the right picture?
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Wait?
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: Is that a snap snap back? Trying to be like
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Jaylen No, I did not notice. Yeah, yeah, so so
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: you pick up.
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: The fucking garbage which was spread out all throughout that
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: area of the city orange and blue right and nostalgic ship. Yeah, sure,
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: even if you want to take the garbage. I don't
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: even think they fired her because she took the garbage,
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: can you don't? I think they fired her ass because
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: she emptied the garbage on the street.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: That was a lot of garbage in front of everybody.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: Look at the people are in dismayed like what are
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: we witnessing here?
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Or here's what I say, Like, I do want to add,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: By the way, y'all.
• 50:53
  Speaker 10: She should have took the whole thing.
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well she was kind of struggling lifting up without
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: the garbage, and then he got her own subway with
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: the dad smiling way.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Wait wait wait video on her on the subway.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: In the in the train, chilling right there. That's your
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: bottom the bottom, right Can I can?
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I also add the embarrassment of this So the same
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: way we talked about Ryan Arnold risking his fourteen million
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: dollar NFL salary with stupidness, This trash can for any
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Knicks fan that wants it is actually available online for
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty eight dollars. A way to do
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: was look and see if she could have bought this online.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: It was one hundred and sixty eight dollars. Babe, you
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: didn't have to steal public property. She had. She got
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: dog three hundred thousand dollars salary now.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: And she probably got the last executive position in this
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: country as at the esteemed J.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Morgan. Because I'm not gonna lie with d I currently.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: You know that's a job opening somebody. No, no, no, no,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: you know that's what I'm seeing on the internet. They
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: were like, oh, they were looking for a reason to fire.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: This is the way that JP Morgan doesn't have to
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: take the brunt of what target is facing. Right, we
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: could just go ahead and get out of our We
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: could say we are midway through the year. Oh my god,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: let's look at these p and ls. Oh, we can
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: get rid of our whole division that we've seen a
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: lot of the other companies. This fucking digenerate.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Now what is she is? She?
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: She look.
• 52:39
  Speaker 10: So if I'm not mistaken, I thought she was Puerto Rican.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I mean it gives that, it gives that, well, oh
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: my god, I will say to the internet when I say,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: when they want to find something out. Her resume was posted.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: The crazy part about it was the the first videos
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: that went out was four k h D times ten.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: So cald you imagine her colleagues. Is that Maria?
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well she got to be Maria. Hold that's not
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: her name.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: Don't do that.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Don't do that. That was a real interview. Hold on,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: let's get her name because just because she Latina.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: First of all, you said, that's very ignorant.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: No, that was Hey, what's her name? What's her name, Jessica,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: you call it crazy.
• 53:29
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: They put it out there because they put her whole
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: They put out there. We go Lydia. Her name is Lydia.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: Lydia what Lydia?
• 53:39
  Speaker 10: No, no, no, no, it's not Lydia.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I just saw it.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: That was that was the writer writer.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I caught it quick. I caught it quick.
• 53:49
  Speaker 10: Are your Angie, Angie Bias, Angie Bis?
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: You know it's crazy Maria? That might be Puerto Rico,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: she might be.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: Here's here's my thing about it, right, this is wildly stupid,
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: Like the whole thing is wildly stupid to do.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: Stupid and to your.
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: Point about like maybe they just needed reason to fire
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: her whatever, the case is, I've seen people do a
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: lot of dumb ship.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: They deserve them to get fired, you know, off the clock.
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: Is this like, for for real? Is this really like
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: a fireable offense? Like it's embarrassing and it's stupid. But
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: is this like, yes, oh, ship, you you're what what are.
• 54:28
  Speaker 10: You saying to.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: We've been seeing for the last ten years.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: From the Bronx.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Better guys. We've been seeing for the last ten years
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: paid their jobs for less, for opinions they've posted online,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: for liking tweets, for promoting certain agendas, or even their
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: political affiliation. We've seen people lose this. So essentially, what
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: you do is you commit a crime on video. And unfortunately,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: here's the other thing. And I said this when when
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: we talk about artists and podcasters and and people that
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: are in big businesses, right, what do we always say, damn,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: did you not read your contract? Unfortunately, what a lot
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: of people do when they start jobs. Those pamphlets are
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: so big.
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: You sign knowing how ethics.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: They don't they don't read the they don't.
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: Read the company.
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: These are my obligations, and that I show up.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: She's not she's not a secretary.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Bros.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Three hundred a year.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: You are a different type of representation of a company
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: that is not exemplary of how you should be representing
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: the company. Look at the garbage and New York has
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: a rat problem, John So in the broad daylight, she said,
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: fuck them rats.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: Nix.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Not only that, fuck with the safety. Imagine how you
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: could trip and ball over this. You're you're creating a
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: hazard for a city during one of the most chaotic
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: moments in the city.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: The sanitation already has enough to deal with. You think
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: she was sober?
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: No one, even if she's clearly knowing what she was doing.
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: Bro, No, she very much knows what she's doing. I'm
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: just wondering, like, what makes you think that you could
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: just do this?
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, to be honest, I'm gonna lead in somebody ignorance here.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: Y'all.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Ain't never been to a restaurant and like something they
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: put on the table and decided that you're gonna take
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: it home with you.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Plenty of ramakins, it's.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Right now, let's be serious. Here, I go to Noble.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: They got a little dog with his little okay emphasis, No.
• 56:46
  Speaker 11: Huge, No, this is a huge Imagine that she walked down,
• 56:55
  Speaker 11: she waited for the train. Right, she got on the train.
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: And you know what's great If you look at the
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: video of this, her friend was trying to stay out
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: of the camera.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: She knew it was up, but on that video she
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: got caught.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: This is what I look like taking flower arrangements. I'm
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: not gonna hold you at the function, O babe. I'm
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: there till the end, and I literally go up, Who's
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: in charge? What can I take a flower arrangement home?
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: But when I tell you after every event I am taking.
• 57:28
  Speaker 8: Sometimes sometimes I don't ask big metals.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: That's crazy, man. She look at look at the ground,
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: look at the people behind her.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, so real quick, I will say we are all
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: in agreement. Then before we go onto the next topic.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: That essentially she she deserves to lose her job.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah you bought that. I mean I would like to
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: get what you get that.
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: What I would hope is that there was a conversation
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: that was had other than bye bye. I think, well again,
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: but you still at the discretion of the of the company. Company,
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: so they probably could have kept her. Right you know what,
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: because I feel like suspension.
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: I feel like she got fired because the headlines came
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: out saying JP Morgan.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: Because who would have even known that in the first
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: PLACEK video, Oh that's what's her name? What is the
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: other question? Colleagues? Did the colleagues? Did the colleagues send
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: the email or all the hr like, Yo, what's up
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: where I don't like bro?
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no no. If this was not a good boss, okay,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: don't let me see anybody anything like the whole internet.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: I know that, I've seen that. I know that bit.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: I bet you're a white woman one of her colleagues
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: that don't like her, probably coming to the office being
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: I'm not.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: Just or some ship and she got your bitch? Is
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: that miss bias?
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: To be fair, we talked about again the cell phones.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Nothing that y'all do now.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Is and that's who's not pulling out. It's probably more
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: footage than we haven't seen yet. That's that's crazy.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Look at I'm not gonna lie at this point. We're
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: leaning heavily into technology because the next conversation that we
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: are having has to deal with Big Tigger and a
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: domestic abuse case in which his ring camera footage was
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: released and was the reason as to why he was arrested.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: So Tigger was arrested for child, cruelty and battery. There
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: is a video.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: Which doesn't make it.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Well, No, the kid was right in front. It was
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: around during during this. Here's the other thing. The child
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: was around during the dispute. Now there's no need for
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: me to play the video because there's not much that
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: is happening. You'll just hear it. It looks like there
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: was a tussle over something, an object of an object.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: You do hear big tigger leading for her to stop,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: and it looks like they both fall over into the door.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: So they both fall into a doorway or friend.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: Which gravity, the laws of gravity and body and how
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: you're moving around, it's going to happen. But then she
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: starts screaming and hooping and hollering. Now I think he
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: had he purposely stayed in the camera view.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Though, well I don't know about that.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: I do want to bring this up, and this is
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: from Tesslin. Figure oh shout out to her, so she yep,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: shout out to black facts. So she's aware of, you know,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: some different statutes that deal with battery. And I wanted
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: to read this just so that we're a little bit
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: more informed so as it relates to battery statue you know,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: OCG a whole munch. Numbers below are the elements that
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: must be proven, and this is what must be proven
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: for this to stick with Big Tigger. So a person
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: commits the offensive battery when he or she intentionally causes
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: substantial physical harm or visible bodily harm to another elements
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: of the state must prove. To convict of a defendant
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: of battery, the prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: that one the defendant intentionally acted, which doesn't seem the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: case with this video. The defendant caused physical harm to
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: another person, which yes, they both fell at the same time,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: and the harm was either substantial physical harm or visible
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: bodily harm, which sucks because it did. But well, they
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: have the proof right now of the video. I think
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: it's going to go.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: If they didn't, they didn't have nothing, look at it.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: They no, they had the visible scarring of her like
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: this video. We're assuming it's from that.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: But she took it down the next day.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: And she took it down and recanted. Here's the other problem.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: The Internet is having a hard time having empathy for
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: this woman, which, mind you, anytime there's a domestic violence case,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: immediately the man is viewed as the fucking perpetrator, the monster,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: the evil villain.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, I have women friends that say blame men.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: But all this is looking differently, and it's because people
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: have pulled up the past of Big Tigger's wife. So
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: her name is Alicia Brown, and while they have shared children,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: there are reports that she left a child in a vehicle.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: While she gambled in Las Vegas.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: For six or seven hours. There is also a report
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: that the same child has been missing for the last
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: nine years. There's also reports that she claimed physical domestic
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: violence from her ex, which is the father of which
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: is the fathers child, was trying to get custody.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: However, Maryland state law does not favor men, not only.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Maryland state law. However, cases were dropped. She renigged on
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: the physical abuse, and it's gone cold because this daughter
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: allegedly wit missing in the home. Now they are saying
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: that it's possible that she just is hiding this child
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: because she doesn't want the father to have custody. All
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: of that to say.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: Well, the daughter doesn't want to be found because maybe
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: she doesn't want to have anything to do with either.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: One of them.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I want is there a way Yomi. You can pull
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: up the clip that I have here because I want
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: us to break down where the internet is having a
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: lack of empathy. Yes, that clip right there. If you
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: could play this clip for us please?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: Oh lord?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're going in bed.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: Everybody want to talk dis ignorant. We got to start
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: having like some kind of podcast education on it.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: You got a motherfucker be kidding me.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 12: You left your child in a con for eight hours,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 12: a four year old for eight hours, while you're going
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 12: to casino, and did she end up missing?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: And no one knows what she at. Father having said
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: this child no more. Doing the research on you.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 12: And finding out that you as a very toxic person,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 12: you give me.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: It's a thing like between love and hate.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 12: Because let me tell you something, Big Ticket didn't know
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 12: who he was dealing with, because how he know.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think that he would have dated you.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 12: You make me believe that you hit yourself upside the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 12: head and try to come on this internet and turnish
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 12: Big Ticket's.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Reputation because we never heard of.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 12: This about him. He don't even look like he had type.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 12: Big Ticket. You need to watch him because if she
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 12: did this to her first child, she'll do it to
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 12: your child, man, Take this to court, get custody on
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 12: your child.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: She trying to destroy you.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: Well, you know it's a bunch of holes, but you know,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: at somebody and be like, but see.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, this is what the internet is talking about. And
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: I do want to I want to sit here and
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: say a rapist doesn't always look like a rapist, and
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: a a user doesn't always look like an abuser. A
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: woman is not always innocent in their claims. The problem
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: here is immediately, because of twenty fourteen arrests and mistakes
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: and choices that this woman made, she no longer gets
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: to be a victim. And it's unfortunate because it's what
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: we also saw in terms of say the Diddy case
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: with Cassie. It's what we're seeing with a lot of
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: sex workers who are being violated by perpetrators, but they're
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: not getting the sympathy of society. And so unfortunately, where yes,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: there's always this blame men, women are innocent stance, it's unfortunate.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: It's unfortunate that as a community, as a society, we're
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: leaning into a now place where if you are not
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: the perfect outstanding citizen, you no longer get to be
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: a victim of any crime. And so this is interesting
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: seeing how they're automatically siding with Big Tigger because he's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: had no previous allegations or any previous anything, which means nothing.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: But as a woman, as a mother, as a wife,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: we're seeing someone who showcased signs of abuse, who went
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: online crying, which I absolutely hate. But we're seeing the
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: internet completely not allow her to be a victim in
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: this stance without all of the evidence. And it's unfortunate
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: because she answered us into this group chat by posting
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: that video to begin with. Correct, but now the state
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: is involved. Now we have bring camera footage and it's
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: just something to wear.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: Maybe she got the eye when she fell.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: What I also want to say, this is also interesting
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: lens that people are viewing. They're saying like, Big Tigger,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: how didn't you know about this past that she had?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: How did you know? How did you not know that
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: she was this type of mother? And I wanted to
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: ask y'all, has there ever been a relationship or a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: dating phase with a woman that you were talking to
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: where you completely ignored a red flag and later down
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: the line you were like, damn, I saw it. I
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: ignored it. I didn't want to believe it, but it's true.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Or now I'm seeing that you're still that same person
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: because unfortunately she's cried wolf with domestic violence. She's sitting
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: here with a lot of question marks about her past
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: in terms of being a mother. Yet you procreated with
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: this woman.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a situation where.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: Like nothing, for me, nothing has ever been like that extreme, Like, okay,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: there's always when you meet somebody, you're always taking in
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: information about how they act, not just how they interact
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: with you, but how do they interact with other people
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: like you. A lot of women say, oh, if I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: go to dinner with a man and he's rude to
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: the weight staff, then like for me, that you're automatically
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: out because if you're going to be rude to the
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: weight staff, then it shows that you don't have any training.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: You don't know how to treat people. So they can
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: be stuff like that.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: Where you look at it and be like, damn, that's
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: kind of unnecessary. Or you see someone's you see one
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: of their flaws like leap through the mask they might
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: be trying to put on, and you'd be like, I
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: don't know, I've never had anything personally that was to
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: this degree of like, oh shit, something dangerous or something
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: scary happened after that. But I don't know the reason
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: court of public opinion is stupid place because it shit
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: doesn't mean anything like, Okay, whatever problems this woman had
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: or whatever bullshit she might have done in the past
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: doesn't really have anything to do with whether or not
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: she was assaulted or battered in this case in this situation.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: So I don't even know, like outside of just trying
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: to look to punish the woman, I don't know what
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: that has to do with anything.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: And I want to flip this real quick, because we
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: never talked about it. You said the court of public
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: opinion is a stupid place. You know who I'm seeing
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: defend themselves right now to the court of public opinion,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: go ahead. The case that happened in Tanzania with the influencer.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah oh, the white guy Joe and.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Ashley Janette, it has been ruled a suicide, and what
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: he's been doing recently is showing the fear in her
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: mental health through text messages, her mom even asking how
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: is she today, her running into traffic, and unfortunately the
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: entire country celebrities podcasters as well who are friends with
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: her don't want to believe that she was that down
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: and out with her mental health, and everyone said, this
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: white man killed this black girl, and what he's created
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: a whole page to kind of try to he has
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: to defend himself now in the court of public opinion,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: because in the court with the autopsy, he's been proved innocent.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: And so now, fortunately, the court of public opinion isn't
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: really that stupid, now, is it. The court of public
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: opinion will old someone to the fire for something that
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: they've been cleared of.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: That's like, why, but why are you defending yourself to
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: the court of public opinion?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: Because are you kidding me?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Not only not not only does someone die, the court
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: of public opinion will keep you from ever having a
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: normal life again. Even if you're not you that.
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  Speaker 4: There's zero he can do about it, because if it
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: was anyone.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 8: Chang change mine, changed mine.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: You still have to put things out for public record
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: to say, hey, this is not what happened.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: Let me tell my story.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Not only we always like to draw conspiracies about people
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: and how they died, why they died, what they were
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: connected to, when sometimes it's it's literally cut and dry.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Sometimes all this one is a little suss I'm not
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: gonna lie him showing like the fact that she was
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: battling mental health. Apparently he was also going to call
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: off the engagement because they had gotten into an argument.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: And apparently, according to everyone, this is all she wanted,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: was this marriage is But she was manic, she was
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: dealing with depressions. She was dealing with you know, And
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think that people realize like how much that is,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: like working with people who end up having suicidal ideologies.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: And he bypassed those quote unquote red flags because he probably.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Thought because he loved her, he probably.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: You hear the truth of the automatic ye o. The
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: reason why we hear, the reason why this happens, the
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: question that she has.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: Have you ever experienced it? Yo? Good?
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: Poom poom, my god, my mother says, my mother, I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: think we were going.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: It's true. My mom will say the flesh is weak.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: You know why she said that ship because niggas had
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: no decorum. You put on a dude, it will it
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: will erase some of the He was like, man, that's
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: a crazy motherfucker, But is it good?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: Risks somebody doing it right now? In office in this building.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: Is somebody making a bad decision?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 8: What makes now you know what, because you just saying,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 8: and I'm potter with niggas.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: What makes pussy so good that you're going to ignore
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: the signs of mentally unstable?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: What makes it so good? Oh?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: For me? Nothing? What makes it good? It is the moment.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: The moment is the moment, time and opportunity.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Wait what said Macaroni?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you stirring it up to get the end result.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: The opportunity creates what circumstance?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: That didn't answer what makes pussy good?
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: Makes it good? Is? I mean that's because it's blinded
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: by lust all the time. Depends on every pussy is different.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: But what makes it so good? You ignore a woman
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: that left her child in the car for eight hours,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: access to it, access to.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 6: Access to in fairness to this white man, which yeah.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, because now you're going back to.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: The what I'm saying in his case, his story, his
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 6: story that I love her so like getting married, so
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: like in his mind he's thinking, this is my life partner.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: Whatever, she actually married.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: Children, I'm not ignoring, but he didn't. But also to
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: I think what gets lost in she had a high
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: level government job. She had a very history and colorful
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: who did uh the young lady.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: That y'all got it story?
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: Okay, so he probably was navigating in these circles and
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: he came across her and then nothing.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: He's a huge crypto.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: He had more know what I'm saying. But still she's
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. She had access to him through her
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: journey in her work.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, they met. She put on an event
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: in Abbi or Dubai and was able to meet him.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: So he's not knowing about none of that ship. I'm
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: pretty sure I don't know that there's a missing. Listen,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: if you date a girl, a woman, and there's a
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen my daughter, you're probably gonna sidebar and be.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: Like, up, oh that's no, but you don't check that
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: left her daughter in the car.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie you.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: I'm if he knew, if.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: He knew, if and I don't want to put this
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: on him, but if he knew, you know what kept him.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: She had a different story.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: You know what kept him, the story and the pussy. Okay,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: it's the power of the people.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: They say that because we are fucking dumb man, are dumb.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: We will do that.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: Like I said, niggas take risks for all types of
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: ship all the time.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: You know what was crazy? I keep saying? Can we
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: just say people did y'all see the tender swindler was
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: giving away their whole life.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: To engage other bullshit.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: This is why lust is one of the sevenst deadly
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Number one.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: Well, you thinks take command as they say, du should
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: not covet another niggas woman that should not commit.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: About Yeah, I'm kissing God knew what you said.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Lust is the top seven deadly sin? Which which deadly
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: sin do y'all feel controls the most of your life?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: What's the seven? Let's go down there the.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: Seven is, and I want y'all to that are listening
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  Speaker 1: to figure out which seven deadly sin controls the most
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: of your life. So you have lust, which is disordered
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: in excessive sexual desire. You have gluttony, which is the
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: over indulgence and over consumption of food or drinks. You
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: have greed, which is an excessive desire for wealth or
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: material possessions. Sloth which is laziness, spiritual apathy or avoidance
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: of effort, wrath, which is what I think we see
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: with a lot of the things that we talked about
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: earlier is uncontrolled feelings of hatred, rage, or desire for revenge,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: which I think is what we discussed earlier, Envy resentment,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: which is resentment or sadness that others traits, status or possessions.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: And then the last one is pride, excessive self worth
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: or arrogance. Often consider the deadliest sin from which all
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: others stem. Now, I'm curious for all of us here
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: if we can, which one do you think controls you
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: the most? Now I can start off because I'm very
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: aware of mine, and I just actually also had this conversation, right,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: So the deadly sin that most connects to me one
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: percent would be greed, an excessive desire of wealth and
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: material possessions. If you've heard my thoughts on billionaires, trillionaires, millionaires,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: I would do and have done almost anything to obtain money.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: I come from nothing, I had nothing. I've had to
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: decide whether it's gonna be toilet paper or food. And
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: there are things that I've done in the sake of
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: being able to pay bills. And so for me, I
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  Speaker 1: would say greed one hundred.
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  Speaker 6: Percent that that isn't greed in an.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Ovall, No, it was survival. But where I'm now now, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the billionaire thing is definitely I would want to obey.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not working hard enough.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: Like I say, not too, like I ain't gonna lie.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: We might have the same.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not working hard enough. I want to obtain a
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: wealth where I don't have to look at prices. I
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: want to go on trips like I want to live
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: a life where the dollar amount of things does not
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: make And until I get to that place, I'm not
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: making enough money. Now when y'all see this list, are
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: y'all aligned with me? You said you aren't. But John,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: is there any other thing that you think dictates your life?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: If I had to, I think, if I had the name,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 6: one is probably gluttony, okay, because it's just easy to
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: just like it's easy to drink. It's easy to I mean,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: we just drink tequila at ten o'clock in the morning.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 6: I mean my sins, you know what I mean.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: So it's like that.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: I think gluttony is a thing, But I think pride
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: is probably the thing that will probably I think it
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: gets everybody at some point.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: I'm if I need something, I'm asking for it.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: But that situation I don't have. But that's one thing
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm prideful, really like you don't.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 6: Feel like there's something that somebody could say that you
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 6: feel like, Oh, this person is like you're trying to
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 6: low ball me, You're trying to disrespect.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: I'm not who I am. I felt that and feel
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: like I need.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: To know I felt that way at the ending of
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: the thing. Is honestly like my my work, ethic, my
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: ability to lead a team, all of the work that
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: I had put in, I felt like was tried, and
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: so there was an element that I felt like I
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: had to defend myself. But two years later, I think
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: the universe played a market what's happening there?
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: And so for me, I didn't let it corrupt me.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: My pride wasn't at a My pride wasn't so big
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: that it led me to a wrath of a wrath
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: of revenge, like my desire to revenge someone. It's funny
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: because me and A King just had this conversation last week.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: I have a friend, an ex friend who I'm no
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: longer friends with, and their intentionality in reaching out to
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: almost everyone that I know over the last two weeks
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: has been so odd. I feel like it's been temperature
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: checking whether or not I'm blackballing her on the back end.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: And it's so funny because in seeing this, I'm just like,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: I've never been one to get in the way of
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: anyone's money at the end of the day, like especially
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: if you have kids, especially if there was a friendship there.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not someone who's gonna fuck on your nigga when
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: we stop talking. I'm not someone who's gonna go and
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: align with your enemy wants to start talk just to
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: make you feel And what I'm also never gonna do
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: is feel the need to go and tell everybody I
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: don't fuck with this person. No more so don't let
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: them in the room. I'm not that type of bitch.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: And what's crazy is people know I have the power
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: to be and I've been petty enough to where I
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: talk the shit, but I'm not doing that. And so
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: in seeing this pride leading into maybe wrath or anger,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: I know, for me, I'm all about the money. And
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: I'm also somebody that vividly and strongly believes that there's
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: enough money to go around.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: There's enough money for all of us.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: To eat, and there's no reason for me to step
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: in the line of anyone making money. I will say,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: I'm curious to know what happens with this big tickercase
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: he is still on the air down here in Atlanta,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: he hasn't been removed off. I feel sorry for his
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: co host if she really wasn't fucking William, because I
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: would hate for that to be put on to me.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: That's the easiest thing if she If if the wife
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: is you know, wants to put something on him, or
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: maybe she's speculating.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: Because of whatever it is you see that.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: I can see that, well, that is the thing. Apparently
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: in the phone he was messaging another woman, so there
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: was some level of infidelity that led to allegedly.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: Well, the other part of it is is like if
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: this and I don't want to I don't even want
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 6: to go too far down this hole. But if this
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: woman has if his wife has an insecurity or has
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: certain issues her seeing text messages that can easily be benign,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 6: she might feel are threatening or are a little too friendly,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: or whatever the thing is.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: So I don't even want to go down that path
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: too much.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 6: But all I would say is that this video that
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 6: came out.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: I don't think that it absolves Tiger of anything.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 6: I don't think it necessarily fully convicts him of anything.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 6: I think that both lawyers on both sides are going
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 6: to have arguments they're gonna have to make about this.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: It's interesting too, because I did see in different news
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 6: elements they are charging him. They have him listed his
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 6: charge with different things. Some say battery, some say aggravated assault.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: And it's very different meanings for those, which that's why
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: I'm confused a little bit about what he's actually charged with.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: So I haven't seen the paper.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Right, No, the charges are child cruelty and battery. And
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: cruelty is because the child was there.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 6: But there's some news outlets like is this eleven alive? Yeah,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 6: so eleven Alive is saying that his charges include aggravated
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 6: assault and cruelty to children.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Oh well, aggravated assult is probably the battery charge.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 6: But here's the thing though, Aggravated assault is a very
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 6: different charge than battery. Aggravated assault is normally you used
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 6: a weapon. You had a gun, a bat, a knife,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: you know something that you So are they considering the door?
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe the door?
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 6: The weapon is the there's also assault is normally a threat.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 6: Assault isn't necessarily the physical. The physical act, if it's completed,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: is battery. If I say I'm a fuck you, I'm
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: gonna kill you, that's assault. M If I punch you
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 6: in your face, that's battery. So even the fact that
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 6: there's this little confusion inside of the news articles, which
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 6: I'm I don't know how that got through if everyone,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 6: and it.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Sucks because the wife, Alicia Brown or yeah, I think
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: that's her name, also came out and was like, guys,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: I never called him an abuser the internet.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 6: She said she felt bad from posting the video. It's
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 6: it's a lot to deal with and so I don't
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 6: know how this is gonna work.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: It's a lot of investigation.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: But ultimately, look his his We could land here because
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: I know we.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Land the plane. Yeah, we got two more topics.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: I hope that she gets the spiritual physical mental health
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: that she the healing that she needs all parties. I
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: hope the kid is safe, their children, ultimately, I do.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: I hope that her first child, you know, gets found.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: If the child is not with someone you know knowingly,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: and if and if that child is missing on her
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: own relig missing if she doesn't want to be, I
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: hope she stays gone. Well, I don't think that's the
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: case because I saw a video where they have surveillance
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: of a white suv that picked the kid up, and
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: that was the last time she was seen. And the mother,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: according to the the video I saw, she owned the
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: white suv. That fits the description. So look, if the
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: child is with other family members, I hope that child.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: I hope the child is fine. I hope somehow that
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: her father is able to see that daughter, because I'm
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: pretty sure his heart is for years like that and
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: there's no conclusive nothing about it.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: So I just hope all parties get the healing and
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: the the the you know, the mentorship if that's the right,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: right coaching that they need, and the whole big tiger,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: same thing for him, and it's just a bad bad guys.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: We gotta make better decisions, y'all. Yeah, you gotta fellas.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: We gotta start practicing uh seeming retention. You gotta have
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: some type of discipline.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: What what are we going with this?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: It's part of the part of this is very because
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: we are not talking about the way.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: What do you think what do you think? Less is
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: about the nuts.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: It's not about the nuts.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's part of it.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: And I don't know why it's just coming out like this.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: It's part of it. But you have to in these cases,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: these are the cases that we talked about.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: We're talking about that's the violence case about us.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: May accumulation of some of the stories we've been presenting.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 5: It goes back to the niggas being kidney. I'm saying,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 5: we gotta just reserve kidnapping.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with se retention.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: We tried to out maybe that nigga need to hit
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: that X videos one time and he would just ease
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: his mind.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: Let me reverse. Maybe maybe hand self pleasure might be
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: the solution. Some of these niggas are backed up and angry.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my gods, not for y'all. Yes, all right, well
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: let's get into celebrities say the darness things. Now, I
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: don't y'all y'all not getting a mon All right, y'all. So,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey was recently at can Lions where she had
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  Speaker 1: a live podcast taping. So during a sit down at
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: the Lumeeter, Oprah highlighted the responsibility of media and how
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: strong an influence they have as a strong example, She
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  Speaker 1: used her extremely popular interview with Whitney Houston. Now this
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: is a quote that she said, and we're gonna get
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: in to it. She said, we did the whole thing,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: Hey girl, how you doing greeting thing? And then I
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: stopped the cameras and I went behind the stage and
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: I said, so tell me what do you want to
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: happen here? And I'm going to tell you what I
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: want to happen here, Winfrey said, And that was one
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: of the most powerful interviews. Oprah went on to say
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: that while Whitney wasn't high during the interview, she relapsed
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  Speaker 1: when she came back to perform for the audience, and
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: according to her, she was so high that she fell
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  Speaker 1: off of the stage. I had such trust from the
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  Speaker 1: Oprah Show audience. I think it was the last show
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  Speaker 1: with us, and she had gone back on drugs, drugs,
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  Speaker 1: Winfrey said. The first interview I did with her, when
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  Speaker 1: we'd gone behind stage and I asked her about her intention,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: she was clean. But the day she came to my
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  Speaker 1: show then to perform in front of the audience, she
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: was not, and she fell off the stage. Oprah says
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  Speaker 1: that she used her influence and trust in her audience
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  Speaker 1: and asked them not to release the images an incident
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  Speaker 1: because she knew that the story went out that it
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  Speaker 1: would destroy Houston. Now beyond that, Whitney's A State has
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: since responded, and I want to read that. So Whitney's
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: A State has come forward and said that bitch Oprah
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: U line puss a hot No, of course not.
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  Speaker 4: So so.
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  Speaker 1: Ray, who is Whitney Houston's former bodyguard, spoke out and
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: backed up the state's version of events, explaining that the
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: whole situation boiled down to a simple accident and terrible
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: stage lighting. He explained that Whitney was walking toward the
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: front of the stage during production and literally just couldn't
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: see where the platform ended. He claims that, quote unquote,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: no drugs were involved. Ray confirmed, completely shutting down the
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: narrative that Whinney was under the influence or trying to
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  Speaker 1: deliver a performance. Now, I want to first ask y'all's
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: thoughts on Oprah sharing this story and if or if
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: not she had the right to. I do have a
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: clip as well of Monique sharing her thoughts. Because ironically
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: the universe was funny and Oprah ended up falling performance.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: You get what you've done as so damn I'd love
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: to know your thoughts on this.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sill about this the same way I feel about
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: last week when take Keith passed away and the next
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 6: day it's all he what's his name?
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  Speaker 4: Sex? He read?
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  Speaker 1: Owes him money?
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  Speaker 4: What does this serve?
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  Speaker 6: Whitney is not here no more, she can't defend herself
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  Speaker 6: against any of this. What was this story an example of?
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  Speaker 6: Like it sounded to me like you were essentially making
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  Speaker 6: Whitney look bad so that you could big up yourself
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  Speaker 6: to be like oh, and I told him, don't put
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  Speaker 6: the pictures out and they never did. And I'm Oprah
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: Winfrey and I'm powerful and I was able to stop
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  Speaker 6: this from happening.
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  Speaker 4: Like so the fuck? What? Like who cares?
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 6: Like, we know you're Oprah Winfrey. I don't understand what
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  Speaker 6: the context of this story is too. Now I'm one
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  Speaker 6: of them people who I'm not on that don't speak.
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  Speaker 4: Ill of the dead.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 6: Like to me, if you were a fucked up person
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  Speaker 6: while you're here, then that's how people are going to
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 6: talk about you.
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  Speaker 4: But this isn't that case. This is an unwarranted story.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 6: Out of nowhere, just for no real particular reason, I
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  Speaker 6: don't get with you.
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  Speaker 4: What was she trying? What information was she trying to
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: give us with this?
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  Speaker 1: Well, the conversation was how media plays a big role
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  Speaker 1: in the influence and things like that. That was literally
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  Speaker 1: the premise. And I do want to say, while I
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  Speaker 1: fuck with you, John, I so hardly disagree with this,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: only because we know how Whitney Houston passed. Sure, no
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: one has complained about the many biopics made about what
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  Speaker 1: and her battle with drugs and so to me, if
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: you were battling any sort of addiction, if you were
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: battling any sort of depression, if you were battling any
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: sort of anything while you were alive, and I had
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: an experience with you that stayed with me, I'm able
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: to talk on it because it was a real experience.
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  Speaker 1: And what I'm not doing is sharing anything about you
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  Speaker 1: that everyone didn't already know. Like so, I understand taking
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  Speaker 1: a secret to the grave, right, but in this essence,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a secret that Whitney Houston battled drugs and
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: so Oprah sharing an incident with this person, I don't
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: feel like she's not at any way able to share
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: her experience with a addict battling person such as Winnie Houston,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: and if she's saying I sat down with her, she
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  Speaker 1: was clean for the interview, but when she came back
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: for the performance it was obviously was a relapse. And
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: then the estate coming out saying lighting is why she
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: falled off the stage. But I have been on a
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: lot of stages. That's a long fall off a lot
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: of them to blame. But to blame lighting is just
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: like now, mind you, it is I don't know, falling
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  Speaker 1: off on the same and I want you to know.
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  Speaker 5: Those Just the other day, one of the Jackson brothers
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: was singing Michael's part and he fell off the ship.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but what else happens all the time is realizing
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: when someone is not like when they're not in their
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  Speaker 1: right mind, and when you see someone who is sober
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: or clearly not intoxicated, and then you see them again
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  Speaker 1: and they are I think that as people we know.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know what relationship Oprah had with Whitney,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: but if she had been present during this battle and
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: had spent time around her and Bobby, or had spent
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: time around her and seeing the sober to not sober,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: to sober to not sober. I also don't want to
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: take it away that Oprah may not have known or
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: wouldn't know whether she relapsed or not in this moment.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: And if that's her, if that's her telling of this sense,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: fuck the Internet for feeling like Oprah can't speak her
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  Speaker 1: truth or her scenario of an incident that happened with
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  Speaker 1: someone who passed.
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  Speaker 6: My issue isn't necessarily the drugs. I think we all
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 6: know Whitney was on drugs. What I'm saying is, when
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: you're telling this story, what, like if the topic was
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: how the media controls narratives, what does this story have
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  Speaker 6: to do with a controlled media?
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  Speaker 1: That's so you're missing that point. But she literally said,
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  Speaker 1: because of my power and because I know how it
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: would have impacted her career at the time for those
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: videos to go out, I made sure that it didn't
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: go out, so no one in the audience sure really.
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  Speaker 4: Know she was on drugs. You didn't save us from
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: knowing that Whitney was.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: On But whatever time frame it was, it would have
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: had whatever negative impacts on her. And what she's saying
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: is as a as a media personality with a huge influence,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't let this go out to be fair, it's
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: the same way I just spoke about you weren't there
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: but a king I shared if you guys go to
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: Patreon a conversation I had with some good friends of
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: mine and how the conversation led in a way that
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna edit it before it gets And I did
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: that because not only would it make them look away,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: would make maybe us look away. There's a bad narrative
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: that could be spewed from a conversation, and so out
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: of respect, I'm editing that out right right.
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  Speaker 6: But if that person passed away, you probably wouldn't go
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 6: talk about it after they passed away and then tell
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 6: the story of the thing that you said.
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  Speaker 4: It depends.
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  Speaker 5: It depends if you edited it you didn't want nobody
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: to know, didn't Let if oprahview saved her from that,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: then let that be that.
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  Speaker 4: Nah.
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  Speaker 5: But look, here's the thing. She's doing a live pop cast.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: Ye in podcasting, we tell stories.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: It may not.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: I don't think I think this is this is a
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 5: case of fake outrage. Again, I agree, I don't think
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 5: there was nothing inflammatory about her telling the story about
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: this lady falling off a thing. She her interpretation of
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 5: her of what she suspects that could be questionable because
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: in her land, she probably put her in about she
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: probably high again yet drunk.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: We don't know that.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: We can't confirm that she felt she had an incident
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: cool she didn't. She chose to not relinquish to put
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: out the pictures. And I think today she's telling the
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: story about that in terms of she used her power
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 5: and discernment to say, you know what, I fucked with
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: my girl.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: That bitch just high. I'm a chill. I'm not gonna
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: put that out there because it's gam piling on, right.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: But I don't have a problem with her telling the story.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: I say, because we know she was high out her
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: mind had.
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  Speaker 5: The problem with us, And I said, the community at large,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 5: it's a clip. How many of these people that in
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: these comments, just like with us when we put out ship,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: find the long form version of it so you can
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 5: get contexts because we're all smart, right, we all right cursive, right, and.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: Guys like all right, Yeah.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 5: I think it's because Oprah telling the story about Whitney,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: people like, oh my god.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: And you know what, I also believe. I believe, not
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: like Oprah.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: I do believe. Yeah, they don't. If you don't like
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: I bet you before they even hit play, they you know.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: You know, you know. I had to learn that. So
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: through the discourse of Monique and many other people speaking
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: out against this, the response that I saw was Oprah
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: only tells these type of damaging story about black people.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: We never hear her talk down.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: On the I never heard the sixty minutes of the interview.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: But let's hear an interview.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 5: Then we have a collective conversation about the entire sixty minutes,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 5: not that clip. The clip was an idea of like, okay, cool,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: But I don't think it's to that point where we're like.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, fuck that bitch.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but people have had problems Oprah for a long time,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 6: with various of course, But I do believe that I don't.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 8: I believe, Hey, Upra girl, I like you. I want
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 8: to be your friend with you and Kale.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: What's the number six? What's the number five? Agreed? Agree
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 4: with four? Four? That's that she's leaning into number four? No, no, no,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: what's what's what's greed? What number three?
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you right now, me wanted to be
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: friends with Oprah has little to do with the money
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: that she has, because I don't look at people in
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: that way. But who she has been in terms of
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: how she's elevated herself throughout her career, the roles that
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: she played in not only daytime television and being a
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: woman that could interview and lead a talk show, but
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: she's played roles in movies, and she has a network
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: like to be up and and for me Right now,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: I'm looking up to the Rays, the Marl Brocker kills,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: the the quintin Brunson's right. But Oprah was all of
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: that before. I didn't say Jaylen is over.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: It's over it wait for Game two of the NBA season.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: I heard you say that about Game one the rings.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: You gotta do the whole function all over again. Can't
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: wars the game too?
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 6: When it gets be regular basketball, Get back to regular life, Atlanta.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you something started getting delivered to the.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: Can I tell y'all, old lady again the way I
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: wanted this Trader Joe's bag of the Knicks, and I
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: don't even be carrying bags. Don't wait, you didn't see
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: the Trader Joe's grocery bag for the Knicks. Everyone went,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: But then they were way more expensive than I thought,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: because like three dollars to check out.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a little yeah, yeah it ship.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: Look oh wait, look there we go.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: We put it up.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: Look we can you know, we can order it. Look
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: at that waits only sixteen ninety five. Now, oh, this
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: looks like a only available. They sold the design.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: Of course they did.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: They sold the design, but it's it's really dope. No no, yeah,
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: go to this one. There we go. Look at how
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: dope that is they are?
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: They only were they only available at New York Trader Joe's.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, you could buy it online. So I
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: was gonna buy open it, but I thought they were
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: going to be the cost of the regular Trader Joe's
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: grocery back. Yeah, and they were twenty bucks instead of.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 5: The four of I tried to go on the sneaker
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: app and get the cement threes the Nick colorway, and
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: I was in there filling out the information and I
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 5: hit the button and I was like, why this shit
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 5: stuck it just and I said, all right, let me refresh.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh cool, Yeah.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to our last topic of the day.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think we'll get to any conversation. I mean,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: maybe we'll be able to finish if we get through
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: this quickly. So Lizzo recently complained about the lack of
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: support from her label after her record sales were published.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: Now I do want to read this, She took What's
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Twitter to say, I actually can answer. So basically, someone said,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: Lizo not having a fan base is so weird to
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: me when this woman literally was selling out arenas not
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: even two years ago. Where did those people go? I
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: did also attend her concert at Madison Square Garden where
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of opened up for her phenomenal Let me
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: just say that I was thoroughly impressed and enjoyed the
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: Lizo concert at MSc. Shout out to Dre Davis. So
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: Lizo responded, I actually can answer this. The industry changed
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: so much in the last three years, streaming and replaced radio,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: and I was a radio darling. That's how my fans
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: discovered my music. Not to mention the very obvious and
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: public attack on my career changed things. But I'm out
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: here doing my absolute best and you can't knock a
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: bitch for that now.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 5: Thanks thoughts, music industry has changed how we purchase music.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 5: No one buys music anymore, and if they do, those
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 5: are the hardcore purest fans. We talked about this and
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: even in the podcast and media space, you have to
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 5: do five thousand things to get the one thing off.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 5: And I think that's what artists, even successful artists, are
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 5: realizing now. Because the label structures have changed, marketing and
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 5: promo departments have been dissolved, so the emphasis to work
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: a record is not the same anymore. So you're not
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 5: going to see the result that she probably is used to.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: So what she has to do, in my opinion, I
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: won't give away all the source, but there's ways around it.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 5: You have to look at how what determines a successful
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 5: record has to change mentally, like how we view it. Also,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: there's a value to dealing with your consumer in the customer,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 5: your community right, catering to it, developing and catering to
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 5: the community right and start there. You have to I'll
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 5: be the department that was dissolved in Atlantic. I believe
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: she has to be that department herself. Now she has
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: to put invest in a team of people that's going
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: to do the things that the label used to do
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 5: for her any other access on the label.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: And that's not her problem.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: That is how the industry is at large because we
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: have got into a world of streaming, and we're still
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: trying to figure this shit out.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 4: As the metrics of it. I think, and I say
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 4: that because she's not the only one.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: I think you are providing. Lizzo bumbell here me.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: Maybe here, maybe hear me. But I'm speaking to a
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: larger issue. Though she just today's she's today.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: That could be a larger issue. However, Court of public
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: opinion strikes again. That's actually, let's do that as the title.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: Court of Public Opinions strikes again.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: That's the title.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: So Lizzo, unfortunately, who came into the space as this big,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: voluptuous body positivity queen who said I'm healthy, I could
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: do saxophone, I could run, I'm healthy, but I love
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: my big black body, unfortunately was sued by the dancers
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: from her television show, where they claimed not only sexual
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: assault where she was forcing them to eat I don't know,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: Banana's out of fucking strippers, pussies and Thailand or some
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: shit they also were. They also were accusing her of
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: unabashedly shaming their body during the pro and so the
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: lawsuits stem from like a hostile work environment, sexual harassment,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: all these things that once a woman of power and
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: esteem is accused of, especially to other women.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: It's kind of tricky.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: The other thing that took place after being accused of
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: all these, the dismissal of the lawsuit wasn't as loud
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: as the actual lawsuit filed. First off, second off doing
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: the same since every clip that we saw was though
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: she was dropping pounds, So whether she was eating less,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: whether she was on the fucking tranzeppetige ozimpicjero, golp one,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: whatever she used. It got to the part where the
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: people that connected to her as a big woman being
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: proud to be big. It changed into I don't know
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: I see myself and her anymore either, because now she's
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: losing the weight. Now maybe she wasn't happy to be
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: a big bitch now like she doesn't speak for me now,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: I no longer relate to her. And in being a
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: radio darling and getting all of these big hits, what
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: we talk about in podcasting, which has been a big
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: thing for us, is growing an audience that will support
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: you through growth, Growing an audience and people that rock
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: with you through your albums. It's why I'm such a
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: huge stand up j Cole. I've been with that Nigga
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: a long time because he grew a fan base that
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: wants to see him win. When you come out the
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: gate as a radio darling, who is your core audience?
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: To me, your core audience is big black women who
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: are into body positivity and feminism. No, let's be very
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: clear and guess what. Guess what you lose. You lose
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: that when women are suing you for sexual assault and
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: body shaming, and you lose it when you start to
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: lose weight, Like there's the people wealth hold.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 6: On well, and I'm like, this is no funny. It
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 6: was still a big girl, like not weight, but she's
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 6: still a big girl.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: You ready? You ready? I am one hundred and fifty
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: pounds mm hmm. There's a part of the internet that
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: constantly talks about my weight, my chin count, my account,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: all the things. No, but but hear me out. I
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: am over eighty pounds less than what I've been. And
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: guess what I didn't get to do as I started
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: losing weight. Guess who kicked me out the BBW community.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: So in terms of me speaking as a big girl
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: and how society viewed me as to the men that
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: I should or could or would be, the way that
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: I expressed myself sexually, the ways in which I move
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: about the industry are and were constantly questioned because of
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: my size, right, and so as I lost weight, there
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: became the split of men in certain people who view
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: size a certain way completely still being like, well, you're
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: a big bitch. Who's fucking you? Who's claiming you? You
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: don't have a husband because you're a big bitch? How
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: could you have an opinion as a bitch that looks
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: like that? Because E thoughts, y'all, y'all, y'all are now
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: collaborated with me on a lot of things. They say
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of nasty things. However, in terms of me
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: speaking for big women, they kicked me.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 5: Out because you could you health because you want to
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: fucking breathe and without.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: A they don't well. And they they took away me
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: being comfortable in my own body because I didn't stay
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty pounds and because I'm now like
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: maintaining my weight eight years after a gastric sleeve surgery.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: And what sucks is you don't get to be body
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: positive and lose weight. If you guys want to see
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: there's a documentary on HBO Tricky it's tricky. It's coffee dice.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: No yeah, no, no, no, it's tricky because there's a level
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: of fetishism, kink.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: Content with big women, right.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: But the way that they even treat you when you
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: gain weight, yeah, I mean it is terrible. And so
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: like if Lizzo would have been someone who is body
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: positive who continued to get bigger, I think that would
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: have been tricky too.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, here's what I say about Lizzo, I mean,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: and some of that could be true.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 6: I think that the reason Lizzo didn't sell no records
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 6: this time around is because, by.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: The way, it's pair p E A R. Sorry Paradise,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: but it's something about hold on, let me get the
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: actual documentary, because y'all know I do like talking documentaries.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: Here a pair like like what the Rick Ross said,
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: pair pair Paradise. You spelt that wrong, too big? There
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: you go, Big girls wanted escaping Paradise.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: Big girls wanted escaping.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: It is a documentary of a very very wealthy execut
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: in Hollywood who, during the pandemic, was like, I like
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: women five hundred pounds plus and if you don't feel
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: wanted or desired, come here to my mansion. This is
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: a safe space.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 4: And kind of board. They have not a lot.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: So apparently there's also a place in Vegas where he
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: there's a routine. It's called a heart attack or look
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: it up, look up heart attack. So apparently if you
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: weigh over five hundred pounds you get to eat for free.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: But there's a scale there where you go, yes.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: And you have you got to meet the mark.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: Heart attack grill and if you live, if you weigh
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: over five hundred pounds, you get to eat for free
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: and it's a gluttonous. Oh damn, somebody died, I know
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: you ready. During the dock people pass away for their
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: weights and so it gets tricky in that. But anyways,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: I mean we all, I mean a lot of people
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: are also into my six hundred pound life. Nonetheless, nonetheless,
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: there's a huge conversation around what her core group or
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: audience looks like, and that's what you're about to get to.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 6: Like, yes, I think that you know, the body positivity.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 6: I think that was a big part of her marketing
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 6: of her building her public image of like this is
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 6: what I'm about, this is what I'm into.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 4: But like, let's be.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 6: Clear, Lizzo's music was most deaf, like so many SKUs music,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 6: like the way most they've talked about Drenk, like she
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 6: did pop music. She did music for Target and Walmart
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 6: and Abercrombus, like she did pop music that was honestly
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 6: like mainly attracted to white people. Like I don't think that.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying that Lizzo doesn't have any Black fans.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: There were a few scattered at the contry.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. I don't think that Liz.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 6: I don't think that her main audience of people who
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 6: are going out loving Lizzos pinding the money were like
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 6: the black community.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: D I don't know.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 6: I don't know that Lizzo ever had a song that
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 6: resonated with the black community in a way that was
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 6: like super hyper cultural where it's not a big pop
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 6: record for everybody, this is a black ass song. And
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 6: when she started doing black ass songs, niggas didn't like them. Shit,
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 6: I actually like they were it.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 4: Was a whole song.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 6: I'm not against that, but I'm just saying like people
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 6: weren't as into that music as they know as her
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 6: big pop anthems, Like.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 5: That's what made her and that's the marketing promo I
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: was talking about. But not even the label was marketing
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 5: that to that, But what was the.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: The label was? But wait, you said something really big.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: So even in the comments, someone mentioned it. She ended
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: up being political during the presidential campaign, and she literally
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: publicly stated, if you're voting for Trump, don't listen to
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: my music no more. And you're saying that her audience,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of why white women at that
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: and we know where they leave because we's heard they
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: would give up their vote.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, these conservative white women are driving around in these
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 6: minivans and mammy mobiles and they craking that ship.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 4: I feel good as hell all that ship. That ship.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: Why did you just sound like her?
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 4: So it's like they love that music. They don't know.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 6: They didn't know anything about Lizzo's political leanings and none
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 6: of that ship. They were just listening to this pop
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 6: music and it was hyper poppy, and they love that ship.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: Her latest album is titled Bitch by the Way, which
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: I also don't think helps someone who has dealt with
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: but I mean with marketing pushback for horrible decisions for
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: so many years. I think titling an album bitch keeps
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: you from billboards in Times Square, keeps you from certain
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: marketing things keeps you from maybe daytime television.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 8: Mind you, you're Lizzo, but isn't special.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: But it isn't special. This is the word bitch. Yeah,
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: even don't love violent.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't want to support that.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: And so but it's not even that it's Lizzo. You
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: made this title. It's why we titled our book No
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: Holds Barred. I was like, and we still got pushed
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: back because.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 4: The whole holes right, you.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: Can't have sexually explicit or or or words.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 4: That controversial words, controversial.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: Words that this is profanity.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is this is an.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: Album that you're trying to push after your debut album
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: from twenty twenty two, which by the way, debuted at
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: number two with thirty nine thousand pure copies sold. Lizzo's
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: recent album, that was released at the top of the
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: month June fifth, sold only twenty six hundred copies in
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: its first week.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 4: What was the single even for this song? So I
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 4: don't even know what this what was? What was?
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know?
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 4: No one knows.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 5: And that's the other part hit record here everything even
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 5: with all her body positivity, even with all the people
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 5: that I'm talking about, the white if the record came
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 5: out and with some type of.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 4: Sem done about it.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 5: But the thing is too uh, you know, the music
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 5: should always somewhat reflect the times we're living in and
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 5: for her to be now on her third album because
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 5: of all the things that she had attached to her,
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 5: she hasn't put a record that transcended to connected uh
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 5: to those audiences, right.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: I will, I was glad.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: It's just more than's more. Yeah, but it's just more
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 4: more of the same.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 5: So now it's like what she's not doing records from
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 5: a perspective that's relatable to your point before relatable content, right,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 5: So that could be a big part.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: Of it too.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 5: And she's she has a lot of ship on her
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 5: that you mentioned that she hasn't she should talk.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 4: Please join us on selective people were people were invested
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 4: in that.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: I would love to have the conversation because I do
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: think you're right. I think from a and we're in
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: a in a room where people want to know the person.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: Are you accountable? Are you apologetic? Do we have you
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: confused as a person?
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: You know how many people would love to say to
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: hear her say or anyone y'all fucked up? I'm a
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 5: human that's like you fucked up yesterday. Well, not only that,
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 5: the only difference is she's a celebrity. We don't know
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 5: the regular person, right.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: No, we're looking at boss women unfortunately too from a
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: lens of people looking to attack. We'll talk about this
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: another time, or maybe I'll bring this up on a
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: bonus episode. Kylie Jenner is being sued by like the
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: third person that's worked for her. There's a woman that
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: got hired while she was pregnant who endured a miscarriage.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: She is suing Kylie Jenner for the miscarriage, saying that
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: it was a hot and she was overworked and that
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: led to her miscarriage. And so unfortunately, when you are
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: also a person a power of money, of we see
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: people go after checks all the time. And so the
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: fact that this case was dropped, but it wasn't made
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: a big deal that it was dropped, She's been held
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: to the fire of public opinion.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: You got to be loud in the in the in
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 5: the solution, you know, just as loud as he was
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 5: with the accusation.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot, it's it's crazy. It sucks. Uh,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: we're not going to get to get to I mean, honestly,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: y'all didn't watch BTT Awards. I did.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 4: Just want to say clips.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: If you haven't yet, the tribute to Laurne Hill phenomenal
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: by far, one of the best tributes I've seen at US.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 4: Performance. Phenomenal, uh Duran Bernard, common.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: Wash, it was common queen lative, doja cat Sizza dochi
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: with I think came out.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 4: I think that was for the Angel.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was incredible, no notes. She came
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: out and if you guys can re listen to it,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: I saw a clip that compared or referenced Lauren Hill
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: singing X Factor as a way that Americans can be
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: living here and I do listen. I'm just gonna pull
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: it up real quick because I.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 4: Was having a debate about her again. Oh you know what,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: you can be considered the greatest nigga when you're a
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 4: special motherfucker. You don't need eighteen albums. She dropped that
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 4: one because that was so incredible.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: Thirty see it.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 5: I said the same thing because they said, oh, what
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 5: about artist, But I was gonna.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 6: Say, uh, Ray Daniels and Mickey Fax and then we're
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 6: having that same talking niggas in there talking about the
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 6: boy he didn't do this, He only had this many
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 6: verses and.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 5: About that a good book is a great book, is
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 5: a great book. And their life is that the rules
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 5: don't apply to everybody, don't.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: That's just what.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna says the point, Huncleberry fit, we still want
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: to read certain It's like y'all can respect bosk Art
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: this many years later, if y'all can respect like you literature.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why they're.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 4: We need we we we have enough.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 5: We could keep going back over and over and over
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 5: again because it was so great. It was dense, and
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 5: you're gonna go through that ship a million times and
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 5: get different things.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: I want to play this real quick.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 4: Who was that work?
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, listen to the words. It's a battle loving America
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: bab kid surpasity.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 4: She's a Gemini.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 5: By the way, I'm glad she didn't do another album.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: I want to read this.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 5: You have to recognize that about yourself that no, I
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 5: don't have, I don't have My job is complete. There,
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 5: that's it.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: And someone said that Lauren Hill's X factor perfectly mirrors
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: our people's relationship with America, and suddenly every lyric feels
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: heavier a love that never stopped being loved despite the pain,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: a loyalty that wasn't always returned, A relationship filled with hope, sacrifice, disappointment,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: and the constant question of whether the feeling was ever
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: truly mutual. Maybe that's why the song continues to resonate
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: decades later. The greatest art often ends up speaking to
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: something much bigger than what it was originally written about,
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: and viewed through that lens X factor hits completely differently. Now,
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: mind you, this is actually from the Global Citizen live
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: in Rio. This was that actual audio, and what I
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: just read came from Welcome to the Culture.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 4: When did this album come out? Mis Education Laura nineteen
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 4: ninety eight, ninety nine, thirty years.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is it was the late nineties
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 5: for sure. So the thing is, you see how relatable
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 5: this shit is to today. That's why she don't need
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 5: another album ninety eight, right, That's why she don't need
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 5: another album because it resonates today, It resonated then, it
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 5: resonates today.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 4: That's timeless, bro.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And she gave us her fucking mona, Lisa in
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 5: her album.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: She gave us hermona.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 5: Hey, you motherfuckers need to just accept it. Don't tell
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 5: me about Oh she'd be late.
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 4: The fuck? So what everybody be late? We was late,
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 4: y'all was y'all? Fuck, don't fuck me a lightning.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 5: But you could be late, but you could be laying great. Great,
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  Speaker 5: You can be laying great. Sometimes you was late because
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  Speaker 5: you was preparing to be great.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 6: When you die, they call you the late and sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh y'all not getting this? Yeah, hold on.
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  Speaker 10: Because people like paid their heart and money for her
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 10: to show and give them a full show. So whenever
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 10: she doesn't show up, I think it comes in between
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 10: like her.
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  Speaker 1: The respect that people have for.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 10: Her, half for her. I do think she has had
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 10: a couple.
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  Speaker 4: They'll get over it.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 10: It's fine, Sure, it's.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 4: Fine, it's fine.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 10: I think she is talented and amazing and like legend.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 4: She is a god for sure.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: But those are things that could be true.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, those I'm not saying it's not. I'm
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 4: just saying we don't have to keep saying that ship
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 4: she keeps she hadn't been late, she just been great.
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  Speaker 1: No, she hasn't been great lately.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes it wanted to be great.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: You got to meet you, mind you during the beat
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: towards everyone was like, is Lauren Hill even president?
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 4: She see her tribute?
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: I love?
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  Speaker 11: That's crazy, right, but I think it's over usage now.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 4: It's like this she does over the last I would
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 4: say seven years that haven't been a thing. No, no, no, yeah,
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 4: I was gonna last and sixty and then I will.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: I will stick up for her yet again.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 5: Bulls gave grace to Marion and these niggas on fucking.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: Was behind last year. In essence, she was late, but
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: that was not her fault. I do also want to say,
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: leading into fourth of July weekend, I will be in
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: New Orleans essence year. If you are out and about,
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: please speak to me, say hi, all the things before
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: we leave out too. Not to make it dark. I
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: want to send my prayers and wishes and miracle angels
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: over to Chris Johnson.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: CJ is someone I know from Orlando. I've known him
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: for oh my god, I don't know fifteen years plus.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: Chris Johnson was a former player on the Tennessee Titans.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: He used to go by CJ two K. He was
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal athlete who recently just went on Good Morning
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: America and shared with Michael Strahan that he is battling als. Yep,
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: thirty nine years old, the father of four children, married
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: to Britt. I'm so glad that he has you in
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: his circle, in his realm right now. His former teammate
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: reached out to me and is like, he's been crying
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: all day. I don't want to cry. It's just sad.
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 4: He's thirty nine.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: He literally right now, if you guys watched the Good
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: Morning America interview, he's talking with his eyes. Technology is
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: allowing him to talk through him, like looking at letters
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: on a screen. He can't talk. He can't talk, he
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: can't move. This he has a case of sporadic als,
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: which did not run in his family. Is not genetic.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: It happened, and he's declined drastically. Looking at his social media,
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: he stopped posting in June, this is also a lot
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 1: to see he can't talk. We've had so many conversations
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: over the last years. He's been wanting to pod. He
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: came to my studio New York. He's tapping in with
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: me to podcast. So to see that he literally cannot
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: talk at thirty nine years old is really hard. So
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: if y'all could send prayers, best of wishes, all the
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: things to Chris Johnson and his family that would be great.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: Other than that, Friday, me and my girl Keiki from
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: Cocktails Podcast will be going over all things bab Listen, listen.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 4: That's what it is.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: If you guys want to hear my thoughts on the
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: B two K versus Pretty Ricky that went down last Thursday,
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about it with a girl because I don't
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: know if y'all can really give it up like I
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: want to give it up about can y'all cannot?
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 4: I cannot. I know who I am and I cannot
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 4: give it up. You cannot.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: But also, y'all weren't connected to Pretty Ricky and B
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: two K the way that you never had. Yeah, so
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: I brought in reinforcements to have the discussion.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 4: Versus to did you hear that?
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all heard so. Right when they
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: go to start singing honey and people were texted me
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: and shout out to the discord for noticing it. As
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: they started Honey and Spectacular pulled out the chair pleasure
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: p literally was like, hey, man, ain't nobody spitting no
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: honey and no bound.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 4: During this performance?
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: Is literally said, none of that is happening, but it
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: was hilarious. Shout out to Spectacular Pleasure, Pee, Baby Blue,
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: Pretty Ricky and Slick them best setting condolences and wishes
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: to you and your journey as well. But anyways, yeah,
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: if y'all want to hear that.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 4: I got one last thing.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 5: I noticed something before about the story with the girl
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 5: that took the trash can when yo, me and D
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 5: pulled up what she got going on?
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: What she got going on?
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 5: Yo?
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 4: She has a podcast? She doesn't? Yes, she does, wait
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 4: for the podcast.
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: Oh you're not.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 4: Pull it up again? Talk about you? The name of
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 4: the fight and everything.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: Wait a second, he pulled that up, Yo. Her name
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: was Angie Bias.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 4: Podcast I'm talking about. I think it was.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 5: It was on another platform that had when we were
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 5: trying to figure out what her name was. It was
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 5: there saying oh, she's such and such and such. She
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 5: has a podcast called about this, that and the.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: Third where is it that? No, that's.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 4: If you go back to her that the so go
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 4: back to that profile that that was there.
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: Maybe you saw a podcaster it was this.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 4: It was it was on ship. It was on the
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 4: Google search that came.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: We're looking for y'all, Caul. Y'all can look up Angie,
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: she gonna need your podcast. Listen.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 5: There we go, the unconscious bias that I actually really
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 5: liked that name. Well she might be say she got
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 5: all the time in the world.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: Now, the unconscious bias.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 5: I actually believe that's a hard She ain't got no
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 5: active episode.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: No no, no, let me read this. Oh no, that's
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 1: not her. That's an MMA fighter. I don't know.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 4: Well, hey, you got time on your hands.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: I really like that.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 4: I let Mandy B.
• 2:08:14
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