Latest / The SmallBizChat with Melinda Emerson / How to Pitch Yourself for PR with Gloria Chou
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- 0:58Hi, everybody.
- 0:58This is Melinda Emerson, the small bus lady.
- 1:01America's number one small business expert.
- 1:04Now let me introduce my next guest.
- 1:06We are talking about how to get yourself to be more visible, and we are here with My guest,
- 1:14her name is Gloria Chow, and she is an award winning small business PR coach.
- 1:19And of the host of the top rated small business PR podcast.
- 1:24Her untraditional yet proven PR methods have allowed anyone to get to top tier earned media
- 1:30without needing to hire an agency or publicist or have industry connections or any PR
- 1:36experience.
- 1:37Some of her clients have been featured in Forbes, business insider, crunch based, and
- 1:41she's been featured on over 50 plus podcasts.
- 1:44Gloria helps early stage founders hack their own PR and go from unknown to being seen, hurt,
- 1:50and valued with her proprietary 3 CPR pitching method.
- 1:561 have one that has helped over 10,000 small businesses get over combined 1,000,000,000
- 2:04organic reviews in top tier outlets such as the New York Times Vogue, Fast Company Forbes, and
- 2:09more.
- 2:10For more information, go to Gloria Chow, PR dotcom.
- 2:14Gloria, welcome to the small business chat podcast.
- 2:17Oh my god.
- 2:17Thank you so much for that intro.
- 2:19I'm so happy to be here.
- 2:21Oh my gosh.
- 2:21Listen.
- 2:22I I think lots of people wanna hear from you.
- 2:24Okay.
- 2:24So let's just jump in.
- 2:26How can you go from 0 connections to landing a big media opportunity.
- 2:33See, this is the thing that the agencies don't wanna tell you.
- 2:36So listen up.
- 2:37PR is really simple.
- 2:38Don't let anyone tell you that it's not.
- 2:40Okay?
- 2:41PR is literally writing a pitch and sending it out.
- 2:43It's writing a cold pitch and sending it out.
- 2:45And if you know how to position your pitch, which is not your sales pitch, which is not
- 2:49your marketing pitch, a pitch for a journalist, and you know who to send it to, then you can
- 2:53just keep repeating that as a system.
- 2:55So it's really about translating our sales pitch, which we're so good at as founders and
- 3:00really turning it into something that is newsworthy.
- 3:02So what does that mean?
- 3:03Leading with an insight, a trend, something that's not all about you, something that a
- 3:08journalist can use a value.
- 3:09It could be three steps or 3 tips, or some insights that you're seeing, and we can dive
- 3:13into that later.
- 3:15Well, I think that's really important.
- 3:17I don't know the how many of you know this, but I actually used to be a television producer in
- 3:21my first career before I became an entrepreneur.
- 3:23So, I mean, you're like strumming my pain.
- 3:25Like, all these people pitching, oh, I wrote this book.
- 3:29Okay.
- 3:29So what?
- 3:30Right.
- 3:30You know what I mean?
- 3:30Like, it it's amazing how even people pitch my podcast that way, and it's extraordinary how
- 3:36often people are like, I'm just me.
- 3:38Did you wanna talk to me?
- 3:40No, actually.
- 3:41That's amazing.
- 3:42So can you talk about some of the myths out there that small businesses might be having
- 3:48about getting PR and marketing for their business.
- 3:52100%.
- 3:53And this is the I actually love that you asked this first because it's really not about the
- 3:57actionable steps.
- 3:57It's about what we believe for ourselves.
- 3:59And I think we so often believe we have to be a fancy startup, but we need to know somebody to
- 4:03know somebody.
- 4:04And that's why we never actually do our own PR.
- 4:06And we think, okay.
- 4:07Well, those are not Those are reserved for those big companies, right, who have the fancy
- 4:11friends, and it's simply not true.
- 4:12So it's it's really about you honing in on that.
- 4:15And realizing that you do not need time, money, or connections.
- 4:18This those are the three things that you don't need to get PR.
- 4:21And as long as you believe that, We can really get down to the basics of how to write and
- 4:25structure that pitch and start pressing send because everything you want is on the other
- 4:29side of the send button.
- 4:30That's kind of one of my favorite quotes.
- 4:33I love that.
- 4:33I love that.
- 4:34Everything you want is on the other side of the send button.
- 4:37So don't be crazy with that.
- 4:38Alright.
- 4:39So now let's talk about how do I find the best angle to pitch the media?
- 4:44Right?
- 4:45You gotta have an angle, or it's just not gonna work.
- 4:48Yeah.
- 4:49One more thing before we get into it is the thing is we're doing journalists a favor and
- 4:55journalists actually need fresh perspectives.
- 4:57If they were just the mouthpiece of fortune 500 big companies, probably wouldn't be very
- 5:02credible or ethical.
- 5:03So think about it that way.
- 5:04You're actually helping them.
- 5:06So how do we actually help them?
- 5:07Right?
- 5:07We actually wanna turn our pitch, which is very kind of, you know, marketing brochure,
- 5:11whatever.
- 5:11We wanna turn that into something that's short that's concise that the journalists can work
- 5:15with.
- 5:16And so I have a 3 step CPR method that I came up with.
- 5:19I kid you not from literally cold calling hundreds of newsrooms and throwing spaghetti on
- 5:24the wall because I never worked a day in my life at any kind of agency.
- 5:27I used to work in the government, so I had 0 connections.
- 5:30I was not a cool kid.
- 5:31I was like the person at the outside of the club, like, you know, the person with the
- 5:35clipboard not letting me in the club.
- 5:36So I was like, how do I crack this code?
- 5:38How do I actually get onto, you know, a publication?
- 5:41From all the pitches that I submitted, I realized that the best pitches that got
- 5:45responses have 3 things in common.
- 5:47They had seat, which is credibility, which is one sentence on why you're pitching, you are
- 5:52credible because you are a small business owner.
- 5:54You don't need fancy letters after your name.
- 5:56So c in CPR stands for credibility.
- 5:58P in CPR stands for point of view because it's all about positioning yourself as an expert and
- 6:04experts have point of view.
- 6:06So usually in the pitch, it looks like 3 bullet points.
- 6:08It could be 3 tips.
- 6:09It could be 3 insights, 3 do's and don'ts.
- 6:11It could be a listicle, whatever, what have you.
- 6:13And r in CPR method stands for relevance because what is what is news if it's not
- 6:19relevant?
- 6:19So think about the seasonality Is it winter?
- 6:22Are you pitching something for skin care?
- 6:23Is it winter eczema?
- 6:24If you're a career coach, it could be about graduation season and people looking for jobs.
- 6:28If no matter what industry you're in, there's either a regulatory or a policy angle that you
- 6:33can tie it to, maybe it's commenting about what the Fortune 500 companies are doing and how
- 6:37you're doing it differently, I could go on and on and on, but it's really about finding that
- 6:41piece of relevance that's really going to get the journalist attention at the get go.
- 6:45Alright.
- 6:46So how do I find journalists?
- 6:47Right.
- 6:47Are they in the phone book?
- 6:49You know, where am I finding?
- 6:50Do we do we even still have phone books?
- 6:52Anyway, but but my point is is that Where do we find journalists?
- 6:56Like, how do I find this person I wanna pitch to?
- 6:59I love that you asked that.
- 7:00So we just covered what to pitch now.
- 7:02It's who to pitch.
- 7:03And it's definitely not the editor in chief of, you know, vogue and because they're doing their
- 7:07own book tour, honey.
- 7:08They're busy.
- 7:08So what you wanna do is you wanna pitch to the specific writer of that beat, whether it's
- 7:13sports, fashion, technology, entrepreneurship.
- 7:15You don't wanna put, you know, like, a info act, New York times, or media ad you want to
- 7:20know who that journalist is.
- 7:21How do we do that?
- 7:22Well, we can do it by first installing a Google news alert.
- 7:26So Google news alert, it's a free tool.
- 7:27You can install and every day it kings you with all of the articles being published on your
- 7:32industry, and that's good for 2 reasons.
- 7:331, you get to train your brain to think in terms of headlines, subject lines, and you
- 7:37start to be able to hone in that skill of knowing what stories people are writing about.
- 7:42The second reason why you wanna do that is because guess what?
- 7:45Once you get the article, you can copy and paste their name into an Excel spreadsheet and
- 7:49you can start to populate your own media list.
- 7:52Now there's obviously, you know, media portals, and then we have this in our program as well,
- 7:56but you can start to do a grassroots like this.
- 7:58Another couple tools there's a tool called Harrow, which stands for help a reporter out.
- 8:03You can sign up as a source, and every day, it will ping you with all the inquiries from all
- 8:07different types of journalists wanting to interview diverse people.
- 8:10You can also be on Twitter and all the follow a hashtag called journal request And that way you
- 8:15can see what journalists are looking for who to interview and whether or not you fit that that
- 8:20demographic or not.
- 8:22I love it.
- 8:23I love it.
- 8:23You're giving some serious free game out here.
- 8:26Alright.
- 8:27So let's talk about the actual pitch itself.
- 8:30What are the do's and don'ts of sending a pitch to the media?
- 8:35Okay.
- 8:36So we can talk all about this.
- 8:38Right?
- 8:39But just really high level.
- 8:40If you want your pitch open, it's really about subject line.
- 8:43We have to optimize for the subject line so that it can get opened.
- 8:46A lot of times, we are not actually, none of us are really taught this how to pitch to the
- 8:50media.
- 8:50So I understand that it's uncomfortable, and you're like, what do I write?
- 8:54Do I put my name in?
- 8:55No.
- 8:56You want your subject line to quickly tell the journalist what the story is about.
- 9:00So I don't want name, company, please feature me.
- 9:03I don't want anything scammy that looks like a marketing email, like, an offer for you.
- 9:07It's it's really just it should read like a subject line, you know, like, 3 best skills for
- 9:122024 graduates looking for jobs.
- 9:14You see how that's very specific.
- 9:15You want that to be in the subject.
- 9:17Now that we have a subject line, you want to optimize for the body of the email.
- 9:21You want it to be concise in my CPR method, the p, which stands for point of view, I usually
- 9:27like to have 3 bullet points.
- 9:28So 3 insights, 3 tips.
- 9:30I like freeze because you don't wanna to go all the way really long.
- 9:33You don't want just 1 or 2.
- 9:34You wanna just give the journalists just enough to show them that you have more to say, but
- 9:39you're not gonna put it all in the in the pitch.
- 9:41I also don't like it when it starts to sound like an unpublished, unpublished autobiography
- 9:45about how you went hiking in Nepal, and you have this business idea.
- 9:48And then you might, you know, your business partner.
- 9:50No.
- 9:50It's really about the issue.
- 9:52And so the more it sounds like you and your company and and it sounds like, you know, what
- 9:57it would be on your sales page, It's going down the wrong path because guess what?
- 10:01You're not selling to the journalists.
- 10:03The journalist is never gonna buy from you.
- 10:05So we really have to tweak that pitch take off our marketing hat and really put on the hat of
- 10:09an expert.
- 10:10What is the insight?
- 10:11What are the predictions?
- 10:12What am I seeing in my customers?
- 10:14And, no, it doesn't have to be groundbreaking stories.
- 10:17I think a lot of people get tripped up because they say, well, everything's already been said.
- 10:21Or, you know, who am I to pitch this?
- 10:22This is obvious to you.
- 10:24Well, it's not about being obvious or groundbreaking.
- 10:26It's just about being in the disc in the discussion And I'll give you an example.
- 10:30We had someone who was a Pilates teacher, and she, I kid you not use our method, and she got
- 10:35featured in a story in 2023 called what is Pilates.
- 10:40So this just goes to show that there is readership from every level.
- 10:44The new cycle is constantly turning out content So don't let the fact that you don't have
- 10:48anything groundbreaking to say.
- 10:49Stop you from pressing this end button.
- 10:52I love it.
- 10:53I love it.
- 10:53Now I have a follow-up question to this.
- 10:55Do you send an attachment or not?
- 10:58Such a good question.
- 10:59I get that as all the time.
- 11:02I personally don't like attachments because a, the spam filters are very, are very advanced
- 11:07these days, and you wanna do whatever you can to increase that deliverability.
- 11:10So we talked about subject lines So you don't wanna add more friction.
- 11:14What you can do, because we all have more we wanna say that we can't stuff in a pitch, use a
- 11:18hyperlink.
- 11:19And if you do something that's visual, like fashion apparel, beauty, art, you can put in
- 11:23one photo.
- 11:24You can put in one photo that's beautiful, that's high quality, but not super huge in
- 11:29size.
- 11:29And you can embed it into, you know, the the actual pitch.
- 11:32And you can simply say for more information, you know, about us or or or this X Y Z, just
- 11:37hyperlink it hyperlink it to your about section, hyperlink it to a, you know, folder
- 11:42but hyperlink it so that the journalist, if they want, can click on it and go somewhere.
- 11:46But I would not I would not recommend attachments.
- 11:48No.
- 11:49Alright.
- 11:50Well, when we come back, we're gonna talk about the do's and don'ts of press releases.
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- 12:56Hi there.
- 12:57Welcome back to the small bizchett podcast.
- 12:59I'm Melinda Emerson Small Biz lady, your host, and we are talking with Gloria Chow about DIY
- 13:07PR to raise your visibility for your small business.
- 13:10Alright, Gloria.
- 13:10I'm back to you now.
- 13:12Tell me about press releases.
- 13:15Is it pass a or is it just about these two paragraph pictures and keeping it moving?
- 13:19I need a press release?
- 13:20And if so, how do I write 1?
- 13:22So press releases, just to give you a one on 1, there's different buckets of media.
- 13:26So there's paid media, which is our ads And then there's own media, which is what we write
- 13:31and put out into a newswire.
- 13:32So that's where press releases fall into.
- 13:34It could be press releases.
- 13:34It could be blog something that we own.
- 13:36And then there's earned media, which is, you know, getting someone at, like, New York Times
- 13:40revoked to to to mention us, and then I talked about how you can do that.
- 13:43So press releases do have a place in time.
- 13:45You wanna use them strategically.
- 13:47Usually, what I like to do for press releases is to ask myself this question.
- 13:50Am I launching something and is it time specific?
- 13:53And so if you can answer yes to both those things, like if you have a launch, if you have
- 13:57a research survey that you wanna get out, if you have a partnership, if something that is
- 14:01time specific, then, yeah, use a press release because a a press release is a business
- 14:06announcement that is for that moment in time.
- 14:08And it goes and lives on the internet for decades.
- 14:10It's gonna bring you SEO.
- 14:11It's gonna give you backlinks, and it's a powerful way for people to search you and find
- 14:15you very quickly online.
- 14:17It doesn't replace all the other buckets of pitching, but it definitely is a way if you
- 14:21are, you know, launching something to get it out there.
- 14:24Another reason why you might wanna press release is if you are truly the first to do
- 14:28something.
- 14:28So I work with with a lot of founders doing really innovative things, and they might make a
- 14:33skincare oil with adaptogenic mushrooms, and they might be the first one.
- 14:36And so, yes, they would probably wanna put that they are the first to formulate this elixir or
- 14:40whatever that is.
- 14:41So that is also another reason why you might wanna use a press release.
- 14:45And here's some do's and don'ts about press releases.
- 14:47You don't want that press release again to stuff 5 to 10 different pieces of story.
- 14:51You would want the press release to be very focused on what it is that you are launching,
- 14:56and it's not gonna be the autobiography of your whole entire business.
- 14:59I don't want it to be longer than one page.
- 15:01I want it to be super concise about what it is that you're announcing, and then that's the
- 15:06really the first kickoff process.
- 15:08So I think a lot of people think A press release is kind of like a story or it has to do
- 15:12many different chapters.
- 15:13It needs to be concise, kind of like a resume.
- 15:15You've heard that before.
- 15:16The longer a resume is, less compelling it is, right, because you're like, why do I need to be
- 15:21convince someone to hire me if I have, you know, so much?
- 15:24So you wanna be able to say it in a very concise way.
- 15:27I usually have a very powerful headline and a sub headline.
- 15:30The headline is a what?
- 15:31The sub headline is a how, and then I usually go into 3 or 4 paragraphs max.
- 15:36So it should fit in one page.
- 15:38A one page press release is really the golden standard.
- 15:41I love it.
- 15:42Excellent advice.
- 15:43Alright.
- 15:43Now let's switch gears a little bit.
- 15:44I wanna talk to you about product businesses.
- 15:47And, you know, is pitching yourself for gift guides really an effective way to do DIYPR?
- 15:55Oh, I love this so much because product makers are my people.
- 15:59And I think for so long, we're told, well, just either just pay for ads.
- 16:02Just keep feeding the algorithm machine.
- 16:04And no one really teaches anyone how to get into a gift guide because you you either think
- 16:08it's scam Melinda pay to play or not.
- 16:10But here's the thing.
- 16:11We have hundreds of founders We have one that actually just got on elle magazine yesterday,
- 16:15and she pours the skin oil, like skincare cleansing oils in her home.
- 16:19And she was they're mentioned with Dermalogica, a multimillion dollar company.
- 16:22So it's absolutely, available to you.
- 16:25All you have to do is think that it's available to you and use a CPR method again.
- 16:29So with products, think about the seasonality and what you're pitching for.
- 16:33So is it something for Valentine's Day?
- 16:35Is it something it's a gift for mothers?
- 16:37Is it something that is better for end of year?
- 16:39Don't put your entire, like, product suite into one pitch.
- 16:43Select the best selling thing for that angle.
- 16:46So what I mean is you're not gonna send them an order form.
- 16:48You're not gonna send the journalist 5 products.
- 16:50You're not it's gonna be, this is why this product is perfect for Father's Day, or this is
- 16:55why this product is perfect for the conscious consumer who's trying to reduce, you know,
- 17:00their waste to 0 because we don't have packaging and everything's eco friendly.
- 17:04So very be very, very specific about that.
- 17:06And it's about pitching, connecting, and here's another hack.
- 17:10If you are pitching for a gift guide, please be specific with the dollar amount.
- 17:14A lot of times we have gift cards and and raise your hand if you've seen this, it's like a gift
- 17:18best gift for under a $100 or best gift for stocking suffers.
- 17:22Let the journalists know how much it is if it's a premium price point, if it's a stocking
- 17:26separate price point, a link to buy it, like, where is it on Amazon?
- 17:30Is it on Target?
- 17:31Where do we buy yet.
- 17:32And where do you ship to?
- 17:33So that way, the journalist knows if it's gonna be in time or not for that holiday.
- 17:38Right.
- 17:38And then the thing about gift guides, they're about 6 in 9 months in advance.
- 17:42Right?
- 17:42They're not, like, that's not a quick thing.
- 17:45It's like you gotta pitch early.
- 17:46Right?
- 17:46Well, for print, for print, yes, but for a lot of the founders if you want digital searchable,
- 17:51I mean, people write last minute gift guides, even like, you know, 24 hours before, you know,
- 17:55if you have something that's digital, it could be a gift card.
- 17:58And here's another thing that a journal has told me.
- 18:00She says, we even write gift guides for after Christmas.
- 18:03How do you spend your gift cards?
- 18:05So there's always a reason.
- 18:07There's always a season.
- 18:07You just have to really take advantage of that and know that there is a blue ocean of
- 18:11opportunities for you.
- 18:12You gotta get creative.
- 18:13I'll give you another example is We had a a bourgeois photographer, and we were able to use
- 18:18the CPR pitch to pitch her bourgeois photography as the best self care gift this
- 18:23Valentine's Day, and she got on well and good.
- 18:25So just be creative with it.
- 18:27You know, there's there's always definitely an angle.
- 18:29You just have to find that angle.
- 18:31Alright.
- 18:31What is the best business advice you've ever received?
- 18:35I said it before.
- 18:35I'll say it again is everything you want is on the other side of the send button.
- 18:39Why have it not be you?
- 18:40Why not put your name in the hat?
- 18:41Don't wait.
- 18:42You deserve to be seen, her, and valued.
- 18:44Thank you so much, Gloria.
- 18:46You are a wealth of information thank you all for joining me for this episode of the Small
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