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Chuck & Buck 5-27 Hour 4: M's struggles... are we on the way up? Sam Darnold's offseason and one last thing · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Nine o'clock hour here on a home day.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some Mariners baseball.
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  Speaker 2: Last night.
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  Speaker 1: They do get the victory over the A's four to one.
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  Speaker 1: They've got a chance to move into first place. I
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  Speaker 1: mean obvious obviously where they belong.
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  Speaker 2: The way they've.
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  Speaker 3: Played so far, just how we have been talking about that,
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  Speaker 3: right is how we drew it up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they will be playing today for first place.
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  Speaker 1: By three o'clock today they could be a first place team.
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  Speaker 1: And this is despite just to cut through the bull
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  Speaker 1: crap about all right, nobody in town will tell it
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  Speaker 1: like it is, which is nonsense. This is a team
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: that has been bad offensively. They've been bad defensively. I
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  Speaker 1: think they've been poorly managed by Dan Wilson. I think
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  Speaker 1: they're the worst challenging team in the entire sport, as
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  Speaker 1: Ashley and I have laughed about, it's so painful that
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  Speaker 1: we have to laugh about how bad they are at challenges.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about the ABS system. I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about what's coming down from the coaches as well
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  Speaker 1: and what they're choosing to challenge. They're terrible. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know when's the last time we won a challenge.
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  Speaker 1: Feels like it's been forever. I know we have, so
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  Speaker 1: don't point it out to me, but it just feels
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  Speaker 1: like we are zero for three.
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  Speaker 2: Every night we lose both.
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  Speaker 1: Our ABS challenges and we lose our challenge from the manager.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it feels.
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  Speaker 4: And people you'd think would be really good at it
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  Speaker 4: are really bad at I mean, it's just across the
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  Speaker 4: board that's the thing I can't figure out.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously you put all of those things together. We
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: are not playing well. This is the baseball team, the
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  Speaker 1: team that we follow, the Seatole Mariners, have not played
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  Speaker 1: well all season long, and yet by the end of
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  Speaker 1: today they can be in first place in their division. Now,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of that has to do with how bad
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  Speaker 1: the division has been so far this year, and I
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  Speaker 1: will tell you, I think it's better than what's it's
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  Speaker 1: showing right now. I'm close to making a wager with
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  Speaker 1: anyone because right now in the National League Central, there
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: are five teams that are all above five hundred, and
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  Speaker 1: there are zero above five hundred or at five hundred
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  Speaker 1: in the American League West.
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  Speaker 2: I think by the end of the year they'll be
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  Speaker 2: two and two.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so I don't I'm not going to wager
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  Speaker 1: that because that's way too risky. But nonetheless, my point
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  Speaker 1: is I think that there are a couple of teams
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  Speaker 1: in the American League West that are four teams that
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  Speaker 1: are far underperforming, and I think there are a few
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  Speaker 1: teams in the National League Central that are overperforming. And
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: that's why we play one hundred and sixty two because
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: after one hundred and sixty two, the real team emerges,
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  Speaker 1: So yes, we are certainly if we're in first place
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day. First and foremost, we
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  Speaker 1: have taken advantage of an entire division that is off
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  Speaker 1: to a rough start so far this year, so not
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  Speaker 1: a lot to brag about. But nonetheless, whoever wins that
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  Speaker 1: division is getting in the playoffs. Will you want a
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  Speaker 1: golden to whoever wins the division, they get into the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what the record is. But still, Ashley, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we could be a game below five hundred and in
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  Speaker 1: first place by the end of today despite all the
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: things that I just said bad defensively, bad, offensively, poor managing, terrible, challenging,
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  Speaker 1: and then awful against left handed pitching the worst in
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  Speaker 1: the entire sport. And so to me, if that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: tell you how well the roster has been constructed, that
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  Speaker 1: you can still win every other game that you've played
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: so far this year despite probably playing as bad as
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  Speaker 1: you could possibly play.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the amount of hair pulling moments like where
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  Speaker 4: we just want to pull our hair out and scream
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  Speaker 4: at the television and yell iving has been ten times
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  Speaker 4: what it was by this time last year. It's been
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  Speaker 4: beyond frustrating for this start of the season. So to
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  Speaker 4: do all that, yeah, and then come back together. As
• 7:09
  Speaker 4: we've been talking about, you know, I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: say it's early, but as we've been talking about, it
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  Speaker 4: is early. There's a lot that can change. There's a
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  Speaker 4: lot that can change. It doesn't mean these earlier games
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  Speaker 4: don't count, these losses don't count, but it means you've
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  Speaker 4: got time.
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  Speaker 3: To make up for it. That's and that's what we
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  Speaker 3: could be doing, which is well.
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  Speaker 2: We've already done it, right, Well, yes.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm saying, like that's what that's what to be
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  Speaker 4: in the lead after today, if we could do that,
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  Speaker 4: that's well.
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  Speaker 2: That's just it. I mean, for all of the don't
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  Speaker 2: say it's early.
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  Speaker 1: People, are you out of your mind? You are just
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  Speaker 1: flat out wrong. It's earliest. Like what you're saying that
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  Speaker 1: it's done and we're not even playing good baseball, and
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  Speaker 1: yet by the end of the day, if the season ended,
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  Speaker 1: will be in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: So how could it not be early.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's early because you.
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  Speaker 1: Have time to make up for things, right, right, nobody's
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: saying that these games don't count, but by now you
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: should definitely have a read on what the Mariners do
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  Speaker 1: in the Jerry Depoto era. They stink until the summer
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: and then they're great in the summer, and sometimes they
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: pull themselves out of the muck and a couple of
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  Speaker 1: times they haven't done that in the past. But they've
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  Speaker 1: won five years in a row. We've got a winning record,
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  Speaker 1: So this team does not stink. They have stunk so
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  Speaker 1: far this year, and for all of their stinkage, at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, we could be in first.
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  Speaker 3: Place right and things are looking up.
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  Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, I'd say as poorly as they've played,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I still remain encouraged. I just chatted with
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Healey yesterday. I still don't going to win this division,
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna win it comfortably. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's just how well they're constructed. Because you could be
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: bad in four of the five major areas of the sport.
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  Speaker 1: Because we're not very good at base running either or
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  Speaker 1: haven't been so far this year, and because the pitching's
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: been very good and still not as good as it
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  Speaker 1: could be, still in a position where we're a playoff
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  Speaker 1: contender right now, and that's playing as poorly as I
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: think that this roster is capable of playing, because I
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: don't think we have a bad offense, no, And I
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: know we're not this bad against lefties like historically bad
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  Speaker 1: against lefties. And I think we will play better defense
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  Speaker 1: once we get the right pieces in the right places
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  Speaker 1: on this team going forward. But I don't think we're
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: ever going to play good defense. I don't think that's
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: the way that the roster is built right now. And
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: now that we've got a relief pitching kind of intact
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: and Munos has been a little more consistent in all
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: five of our best guys are back and healthy, I
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: think that's going to be a higher functioning unit. And
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: I still think our starting pitching has another level that
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: it could reach. It should be great, and so far
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: this year it's been very good. So almost everything about
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: this team has underachieved to this point in the year,
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: and yet you still have a chance to be in
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: first place by the end of the day. In a
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: strange way, that's encouraging because I don't think they can
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: play worse, and we've got one hundred games.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: To prove that how good you actually are, So let's
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: get it together.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And Also, that's not a challenge to say. I
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: don't think they could play worse, Like, we're not issuing
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  Speaker 4: a challenge to see.
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: But I do think things are Yeah, you want us
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: to show.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: You you think I've been so they don't call me
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  Speaker 1: a ref Schnyder.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, not a challenge. But yeah, things are looking up.
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: Right, You've got ref Snyder and his new skills of
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: getting it but not getting hit. You've got Roe blazed back,
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: hopefully Cal will be back soon. Yeah, you've got Spire back,
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: Brash back.
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, things are looking up.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: That's another thing. The injuries. Yeah, that f pilot and
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: everybody deals with them.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, we're not alone, but that's why they call it.
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: You deal with them, You deal with them. You try
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: to tread water until you get everybody back. I mean
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: we were. Brash has been a huge part of this team.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: Now Dan will only pitch him once every three.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: Years, but we break an emergency.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: But Brash has been down. He's been vital to this
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: team so far. Spire's been down. We've had Miller and
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: you've seen how effective Miller is. We've been pitching without
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: him all season long, and then Cal. I mean we've
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: gotten no contribution out of cal We've gotten Anti. He
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: has a minus war to this point of the year,
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: and now he's not even available to fix that for us.
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: So certainly none of us anticipated cal Raley was going
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: to go from historic season by a catcher to being
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: a detriment to the baseball team. Yeah, and that's what
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: he's been this year. Number one not available and then
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: number two has not produced. He has a negative war.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: That means whoever is just a standard replacement would be
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: playing better baseball than cal Raley so far.
• 11:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's just I mean, obviously nobody is expecting that.
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: Cal definitely didn't expect that, and I don't icipate that
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: to continue either and him. I mean, here's how rare
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: it is. Right, He's never gone on the aisle in
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: his entire career, and now he's on the aisle. And
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: I think that's good. I think he needed it. I
• 12:10
  Speaker 4: think he needed it one to sort things out mentally right,
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: so that he could come back in the right headspace
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: and hopefully be better. And too clearly something was bothering
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: him that they were kind of trying to see if
• 12:21
  Speaker 4: they could just get away with giving him a day off.
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: Here and there.
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  Speaker 3: So it's good that he was forced to go get better.
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: Well, the point is that if it could go wrong,
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: it's gone wrong for this team so far this season.
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  Speaker 1: And yet somehow, by the end of the day, with
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: all this nasty, stinky dust that has been stirred up
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: by the twenty twenty six Mariners, when it clears at
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, there's a chance that we
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: are in first place and would qualify for the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: at this season ended.
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  Speaker 2: Nay, that's crazy.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: That is it is crazy how poorly they've played. So
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: now you've got over one hundred games to prove just
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: what your true colors are. Not a bad offensive team.
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: We'd like to see that.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: And so look, I think there are some legitimate elements
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: on this team that we should be concerned about. Going
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: back to spring training, I said I'm concerned about defense,
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: and that has proven to be true. Yeah, And so
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think JP Crawford can play shortstop. I don't
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: think he has the whatever's wrong with his arm. He
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: can't make the throws right now, and I don't think
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: that gets better over at third base. Turns out you
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: got to throw from third base too.
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So But.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: If we have the improvement at shortstop with cold Emerson
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: and we get Brendan Donovan back, and that's not great.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're not talking about Nolan Eronato over there.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: We're not talking about Greg Nettles or Brooks Robinson. But
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: he was getting better in May, then he was playing
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: the position in April, and I suspect he would continue
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: to get better going forward. Now there's tall talk about
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: JP sliding over to third, but I think there's something
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: wrong with JP's aren't.
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: Somebody yesterday suggested JP going to left field and I
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: was like, how could he make that throw?
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: Well, Brendan Donovan would be better off and left field
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: because he's got more experience in left field. And I
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: also don't think JP's the solution at DH. Everybody wants
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: to keep his bat in the lineup. Why he's hitting
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: two hundred. He's not getting on base consistently, and I
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: don't care if he's popped seven home runs. That's not
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: the JP Crawford that we want. We want the JP
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Crawford that walks once a game and puts the ball
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: in play and occasionally gets a flare like he had yesterday,
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: that lands in left field.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: So that means you get on base twice, If.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: You're getting your walk and you're getting a hit every
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: other game, then that that's the JP that I want
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: to see at the plate. We're not even getting that version.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: We're getting the version that thinks he's a thirty home
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: run hitter. And so that to me is a big
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: question mark for this team. But there's a chance that
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: we get better defensively. You saw, we've seen Cole Young
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: will get Cal Rawley back. That's an improvement. And so defensively,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever going to be special, but
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: we should be able to get slightly better there. Offensively,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: we should flat out just be a better group. And
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: yet this left handed hitting thing, or excuse me, this
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: left handed pitching thing, is obviously an issue. I mean
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: when the A's are going as far as calling up
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: prospects because oh man, Luis Severino, I mean, we're paying
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: him millions of dollars per year. But this team can
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: hit lefties. Just find me a lefty. I don't care
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: where he is, home depot, wherever. Just bring him up.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: This team can't hit him. We're sure of that. Well,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: last night we actually got to their number one prospect
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: pitching prospect engaged jump or at least left handed pitching prospect.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: We got to him last night, and so maybe that
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: is an indication of further success for this group.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: At least it's off the Schneide. But that is a
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: major concern.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, we are right now thirtieth in Major League
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Baseball and batting average against left handers twenty ninth, and
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: on base percentage, I mean.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: We are hitting under two hundred as a team against lefties.
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  Speaker 2: So that's real. That is real. That is a real concern.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Defense is a real concern, and hitting lefties is a
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: real concern. Now Compared to the concerns that other teams
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: have in our division, probably you'd probably take those warts.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: But I do believe both have to get better. I'm
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: going to assume we get a little better at challenging.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to assume as things slow down that maybe
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: we get back to second half. Dan Wilson in terms
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: of his managerial decisions, and even though I don't think
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: it was ever great last year, he was better at
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the end of last year than he's been so far
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: this season. And I do know that we're going to hit.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: This team has been assembled to hit this year.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: They're going to.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: And I still think Ashley that the pitching's going to
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: get so. But when you have the very good to
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: great pitching, you pretty much can stay in every game.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: And that is an advantage that no one else in
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: our division is going to have. They just simply are
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: not going to have it. I mean, the A's are
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: going to outslug you on occasion, but put good pitching
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: against them and look how they get neutralized. They're not
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: going to be able to pitch like we pitch. Neither
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: are the Astros with all of their injuries and their
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: kind of rebuild that they're going through. And the Rangers
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: they might be able to do it with starting pitching,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: they can't do it out of their bullpen, that's for sure.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: So that's our advantage going forward.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Real concerns, but I still think our real concerns are
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: less than other teams real concerns, and I still.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Think our strengths are better than other teams in this division. Strengths.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do too, And people were pointing out on
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: the text line, were't the Mariner is a game under
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: five hundred and on June eleventh last year? I mean, yes, people,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: are aguing, Yes, this is the way it works every
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: single year, and maybe that's why we get frustrated because
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: I just want I mean, an added I shouldn't say,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: maybe that that's definitely an added element to why we
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: get so frustrated because we're sick of it happening every year.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: We want to see something, you know, hot out of
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: the gate.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, I suppose if at the
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: end you're playing your best baseball, that's what really matters.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: It is tiring, it is exhausting.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I'm so sick of it. I'm so sick of this.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: And you know what, I asked Scott's service, oddly enough,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the year before his final season, and I asked him.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: They had a post season press conference, they missed the playoffs,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and I said, what is the organizationally, what are you
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: going to do about the slow starts? Because this has
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: been a trend, This isn't just an outlier. And he
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: was angry. He was angry with me because he I
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: think he took it as he's not getting his team
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: prepared for the start of the year.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: And so they really treat it.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: They like kind of dis dismissed the question, like angrily
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: dismissed the question like they weren't even going to give
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: rise to the thought that they weren't doing things the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: right way to start the year, and that they don't
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: have to rethink anything else. And so I've kind of
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I remember that and it has not gotten any better.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: No, it is not improved.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: No, it's a fair question to ask, right, Yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: After many years of it. I mean, where is it
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: written that the Mariners have to start slowly?
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know. And Wilson says, to rip up that book.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson says, after every every loss, that's that's baseball
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: for you. But what are you gonna do about it?
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: That's baseball?
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Well, no, baseball is not. I mean baseball is filled
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: with highs and lows, peaks and valleys, slumps and streaks,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: and you really don't know when one's going to end
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and the other one's going to start. It is a strange,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: cruel game filled with loss, and as Ryan Healy tells
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: us almost every Tuesday, it's torture. Like even when you're
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: going well, you're tortured by how do I keep it going?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: You know, things of that nature. We understand how hard
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: a game it is to play, or at least everybody
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: should understand how hard a game it is to play,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: and that's baseball, and they're going to be those stretches.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: But why does it? But I'll tell you what's not baseball?
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Every year in baseball you start horribly, that's not baseball.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: That was baseball. Then it would happen to every other
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: team as well.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Exactly, it only happens to the Mariners. So I've felt for.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: A long time you need to organizationally because I'm not
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: going to listen to the Marine layer.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: No, we've had really nice weather.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Exactly, that's a horse crap excuse, Yeah, if you're using it,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: or it's just so chilly, Like.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Julio suggested at the beginning of the year.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Who cares get over it. There's a problem with how
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: you're approaching the season, and it needs to get fixed
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: because is gross. And I'm sick of it and I
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: get angry and I get worked up about it every year,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and I was certain that this year was going to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: be different, and it hasn't been different.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: It just hasn't.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just as frustrating, if not more.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: All Right, coming up next, Sam Darnold's off season, now
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: that he's broken through the crust and into the other
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: side of World champions How should he approach this offseason?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I asked Matt Hasselback earlier in the show. We'll replay
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: his answer for you and respond ourselves. On Sports Radio
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: ninety three point three kJ R f M.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I just had just one.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Single isolated sneeze that was one of the most powerful
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: sneezes that has ever left my body.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I don't even know where it came.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Is that what shook the building?
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I think maybe? Okay, hear that? Or the gin out again?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Are we on question?
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Someone earlier said what happened to your signal? I was
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: like nothing, But at the same time, like, who knows?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: It is possible my sneeze may have taken it out.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I do like a good sneeze.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: On occasion, on the way back from WINATCHI I think
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I sneezed fourteen times.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think I like a good fourteen.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: This lot, because not one person in the car said
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: bless you, I think, but they just got sick of it.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: They're like, okay, we give it.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to give you. On the first one.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: They didn't even say it. The first one.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm going to always give it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: I think they knew there was more to come, and
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: they were waiting, and then it just kept going and
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: by then they forgot they hadn't said anything.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Oh is that right? Yeah, so it was like fourteen consecutive.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, like for I sneezed and then like
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: thirty seconds later later I sneezed, and then thirty seconds
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: later I sneezed.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: So not continuous, no, no, no, it was like every.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: That's an odd stretch of sneezing, was there?
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I think there was just a lot of dust on
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: the softball field.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've heard if people like like they have
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: a fit with it. I think. I mean usually I'm
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: just a two.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm always a three.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Like an isolated one is very rare, but rarely do
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I go over to yea.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: So I'm a two guy. I'm a two sneeze guy.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: And I've seen, I have heard. I've overheard it, believe me,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: because I've covered my food. Somebody sneezing like like fourteen
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: times in a row because they can't stop. But for
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: thirty second interole.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: He sneeze in a break and yeah, it was Yeah, I.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Would have I would have said, bless you once and
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: then I'm like, you're not getting another one, And then
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I would think by about number eight, i'd be like,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: shut up.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how I think they felt. They just forgot
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: to also say bless you. They were like, she's doing
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: this again.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Gosh, why don't you just shut up right now?
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Ashley's always trying to get some you know, sympathy for sneezing.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: We get it.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: We're trying to have a conversation, Ashley.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's basically what happened.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Trying to enjoy the ride.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're trying to sit here in silence. You keep
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: effing it all up.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Stupid, rude, sneezing Mom's the worst. All right, let's talk.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks have made a trade today, and they're serious
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: about this, and I think, for the first time in
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: my life, I get it. They really want the best
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: special teams groups that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Have ever lived.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, they're doubling down, and they've just traded for the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Jets a seventh round pick for the Jets, and pretty
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: much all he is is a special teamer. Irvin Charles
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: is his name. Wide receiver slash special teamer Irvin Charles
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: for a conditional seventh round pick, Charles has been with
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the Jets since twenty twenty two, so probably not a
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: good chance he's ever going to establish himself.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: As a wide receiver.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't think so.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Sounds like he's just a.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Special teams guy, and that's what John seems to be
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: adamant about collecting. Some people collect stamps, some people collect coins.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: John Schneider these days is collecting demons and special teams coverage,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and it sounds like he's added yet another one. And
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I would have laughed at this in the past, but
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: not after what I watched last year, because our special
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: teams group had a lot.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: To say about winning a world championship.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Yes, I get it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: A year team, I think I get it as well.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: If you're getting a proven special teams monster for a
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: seventh round pick, yeah, uh, I'm not gonna doubt you
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: not anymore.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: John.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: All Right, let's talk about something a little more impactful.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Our quarterback Sam Darnold. He is he is coming off
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the best season, obviously of his career. Now he had
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: coming off the best season of his career of the
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: year before too, So we're looking at back to back seasons,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: back to back years of mass monstrous improvement, and this
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: year it manifested itself in leading a team to a
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl title. As we all know well, Matt Hasselback
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: was on with us at eight o'clock and Matt Hasselback
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: obviously different paths to the NFL. One was the third
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: pick over all, the other was completely undrafted, and so
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: there was going to have to be more proving that
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Matt was going to have to do. He was going
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to have to be in the shadows, lurking behind Brett
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Farv and others to finally get his chance. And yet
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: what they both did get to experience that about the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: same age in their careers was a breakthrough season. Now,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: maybe Sam had his last year with the Minnesota Vikings,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: but he still had all sorts of crazy doubt placed
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: on him all the way up to the Super Bowl.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: For gonna say he still has it.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone thought it was a fluke.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And yet I think everybody can acknowledge that if
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the previous year was in a breakthrough year, certainly last
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: year Super Bowl champion quarterback Sam Donald certainly experienced a
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: breakthrough season. He now knows he belongs. There's no doubt
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I'm one of the guys in this league, rank me
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: wherever you want, But in Sam's mind and in his heart,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: he knows I'm one of the dudes, just as Matt
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Hasselback had a season I think it was two thousand
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and three where he broke through and got to go
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: into his first offseason knowing without a doubt, I'm one
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: of those dudes. And so I talked to Matt at
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: eight o'clock today. I asked him about when you came
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: off of your breakthrough season, as Sam is coming off
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: his breakthrough season, what was your off season like? Did
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: you have to fight complacency that off season or did
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: you get even hungrier about proving everybody wrong.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Here's what Matt had to say.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: Well, it reminds you know, I had a conversation with
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: Sam last year around this time, and you know, it
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: was a little bit about the fact that he just
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: really wasn't getting the respect that I thought he deserved
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: after the year that he had in Minnesota. He had
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: an incredible year, and you know, all anybody wanted to
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: talk about were his failures with the New York Jets
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: or with the Carolina Panthers, or how he was only
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: a backup of the forty nine ers and how his
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: one year in Minnesota was kind of a fluke. And
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: you know, what we talked about a little bit was
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: some of the some of the tougher spots in my
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: first four years of the NFL, Like it was just
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: it was hard, Like there were some things like getting
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: you know, getting trash, you know, getting basically trashed in
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: the media or boot out of a stadium or you know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: And I think he kind of took this approach like, man,
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: I didn't even know that, you know, Like I think
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: he was twenty seven years old at the time. He's like, I.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Didn't know that about you.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: Like all I remember was this version of your in Seattle,
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: Like I don't remember that. And so I think we
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: kind of bonded over that, like the hard times, like
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: the scabs, the wounds that he had sort of experienced early.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: But to answer your question, to see what he's done
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: since he won the Super Bowl, it's been completely different
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: than what other Super Bowl winning quarterbacks have done. Almost
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: all of them have taken like this victory lap during
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: their offseason. You see him at the Kentucky Derby all
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: decked out. You see him at the met Gala, you
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: see him at all this stuff that quite honestly has
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: nothing to do with running back or running it forward,
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: as Mike McDonald said yesterday.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Has nothing to do with it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: What he has chosen to do is exactly what he
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: did last year and kind of be all about the work,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: getting away and not doing it necessarily in the spotlight.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: I know he's also getting married this summer and stuff
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: like that, but that can almost stuff like that can
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: almost be the absolute best thing for you when you
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: kind of step away and recharge, and it's not necessarily
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: about football. It's his major life event, you're getting married
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: and all that stuff, but it's not about all the
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: things that are distractions. You see some guys come back
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: ten pounds heavier. You see some guys come back lighter,
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: look like they haven't put the work into the weight room.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: I don't think his off season has been like that
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: at all. And if yesterday is any indication from the
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: footage that I saw, he looked sharp, and so I
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: think that the combination of the off season that he
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: had in the disrespect that he still gets. There were
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: two major national publications that came out this week ranking
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: starting NFL quarterbacks. I believe two of them had him
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: outside of the top fifteen. I think in one he
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: was nineteenth overall and one he was seventeenth overall. So
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: I think that chip on his shoulder it's not going away.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Isn't that something?
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, doesn't that just prove though?
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: The way he finished that statement was, we're such in
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a world now where we get locked in on our
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: opinion and we go so far with it that once
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and I believe I'm not this way as a professional
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: talk show host. If I am, you know, maybe I've
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: got some more stuff to work on. Maybe somebody's got
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: to point it out to me. But I think so
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: many people in life, certainly when you think about politically,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: but even in now now that we have social media
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and now we have all these podcasts and now we
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: have these talking head shows, that they go so far
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: in on something that they just can't allow themselves to say,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: you know what, I's wrong on Sam Donald.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: No, it's way too hard for them to do.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: They just can't do it. And how stubborn do you
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: have to be after what Sam Donald did two years
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: ago in Minnesota and then showed you because what were
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the criticisms?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I put up.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: The stats, but in the big games, is he going
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: to be able to come through? Well, he played the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: biggest games you could possibly play in the sport of
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: football last year and pretty much aced them down the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: stretch in different ways. I mean, he carried us completely
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: to one of those playoff wins, and then another game
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: he played kind of his role and let ken Walker
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: do his thing. And then you know a little bit
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: of a combo in the Super Bowl, which we really
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: didn't need anybody because our defense was so smothering in
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: that contest. But all right, so you said he couldn't
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: do this, and then he did it, and then he said, yeah,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: but he couldn't do this, and then he does it,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: and yet people still want to put together their lists
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: and not give him proper respect. So when we were
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: saying he can win the Super Bowl, and we were joking,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: but people will go across the country, Yeah that was
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: a fluke.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Can he do it again? That seems to be what
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of the mindset is out there.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like it would just be on him to win
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: it again.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm not putting that on everybody.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I think some people have certainly come around a little
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: bit and kind of adjusted their opinion, or maybe he
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: did show them more and so they can at least
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: acknowledge that I was right about criticizing him before. But
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: obviously I don't have much of little leg to stand
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: on anymore. I think he maybe he's had that impact
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: on some people, but there are clearly if Matt Hasselbeck's
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: going to reference a couple of lists, and maybe we
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  Speaker 1: just give too much credit to things that stand out
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  Speaker 1: to us. Maybe these lists we should just if they
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  Speaker 1: were too ply, we would wipe our butt with him.
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  Speaker 1: To quote Johnny Carson, and so, uh, maybe we're giving
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  Speaker 1: too much credence to it. But obviously there are enough people,
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  Speaker 1: and as we get closer to football season, I'm sure
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have these conversations that have been wrong, dead wrong,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: completely embarrassingly wrong, and yet they've gone so far in
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: saying Sam Darnold's not legitimate. They're just going to stick
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  Speaker 1: to it no matter what happens going forward.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't understand that, because you just make yourself
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  Speaker 4: look like more of a fool than if you say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: I was wrong and then and then at that point too,
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  Speaker 4: people learn to to appreciate the fact that you're going
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  Speaker 4: to go out there with your opinion but or your thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: But if you're wrong, you're gonna come back and say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: all right, I tried, didn't work, I was wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Kudos to him.
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  Speaker 1: Wrong all the time in the in the in this world,
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  Speaker 1: like we have to give our opinion all the time.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it's I think it's great to say, hey,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to get it all right, I was
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  Speaker 1: wrong and that I was dead wrong, and I'm you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll adjust my opinions on it. And yet I
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: think we're in a world where nobody, not nobody, but
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  Speaker 1: fewer and fewer people seem to be able to do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it is hard for a lot of people,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't quite understand it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's because they go so far the other way.
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  Speaker 1: They go so far in like I'm all in on
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: trashing Sam Donald, and they got no chips left. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so as they walk away from the table, are they
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: gonna give Sam Donald credit?
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: No, they're gonna bemoan him. You're lucky.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah that was a fluke. Can he win a big game? Okay?
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, so he won three big games, but Cody
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: win another one.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I lost all my money on that, and yet I'm
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: still gonna belly ache about because now I'm angry because
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: now he's made me look foolish.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: So now I got to double down on it.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: And I think the worst part, just to close out
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the conversation, is that at some point this upcoming season,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: and it will happened more than once.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald's gonna have an off game.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Or two, might even have them back to back, and
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: those same people we'll be back in our lives.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: See well, and when they play the Rams again, the
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: four interception or four turnover game definitely gonna be brought up.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I mean super Bowl Championship. See yeah, isn't enough. It's
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: it's never gonna end, all right.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: One last thing's next Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 2: The final segment of the show. Then we're gonna hand
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  Speaker 2: things offt to Greg Bell. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: He is back and sounds like he might have had
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: got a cold doing all of.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: That lots of traveling.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe just filled his head with all of that sea life,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to learn how to surf.
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  Speaker 3: Probably got a whole octopus in there.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's got stuff stuck in the area that yeah,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: of course you have water stuck in your water polo person,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: do to get and what is because you probably know
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: better than anybody, what's the surefire remedy?
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Hop on one foot until until you're head to the
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: side and shake it.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Really yeah, works every time.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: We used to do peroxide. Oh yeah, that does that work?
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Or is that like dangerous?
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's dangerous.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: That what rotted out my brain?
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, but I don't think it's dangerous. But I
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: feel like the you don't always have peroxide, and you
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: could be at a meat and you or a game
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: and match and you got water stuck in there.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Just hop on one foot on the foot that the
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: side is blocked. Hop on So if it's your right
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: ear that's blocked, hop on your right foot.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Really yeah, works every time?
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Every time. H interesting, he looks stupid.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that's worth it though. Yeah, we'll look
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: stupid to get that out of there. Man, that was
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: always a horrible feeling.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I know it's been happening.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: It's happened to Palmer the Grade a couple of times,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: and I like making her hop on one foot.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: It feels fun, all right.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: One last thing to close out the show, and then
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: we'll make Greg Bell hop on one.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Foot to get the water out of his Here there
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  Speaker 2: we go. All right, what do you got for one
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: last thing?
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this, but I thought
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: you'd be very intrigued by it. It was a post
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: from Yahoo Sports this morning says the NBA is considering
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: televising the actual draft lottery drawing live instead of only
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: announcing the results afterwards.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Per tim Bon to bomb Temp, I.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Don't know, yeah, tim Bon Temps.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, been tim bon Temps. I tried to give fancy
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  Speaker 3: your name.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: How the new format would work is still being determined, okay.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I mean I've got an idea for the format. Put
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: numbers on a ball and draw the numbers out. You
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: want me to overcomplicate it?
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Man, Hugh Millan has gone to great lengths to disprove
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: my theory on this, and the only thing that I
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: would say to you or anybody else, it's like, I
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: don't care what evidence that you come up with, I'm
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: still going.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: To believe it.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: So because of two reasons, is it suspicious? I mean
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: even Hugh who s told me off the air, Yes,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: it's suspicious. It's just there's no.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Way that it could ever happen. And then number.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Two, can we acknowledge that the NBA is a big
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: enough of a business that they can possibly rig the
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: outcome of something like that. And as long as the
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: answers of those two things are true, then I don't
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: care what elliott Ness and court of law could throw
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: at me that you're not going to convince me otherwise.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: As long as I know that it's possible that corporations
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: can throw you off what they're really doing behind the
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: scenes and have the ability to do that, and as
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: long as we can all acknowledge that it's suspicious, that
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I'm going to remain suspicious.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: I completely agree, And I will say this The one
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: thing I would say, it is impossible for them to
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: do it every year, because then people would figure it out.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: But they don't do it exactly. That's why. So that
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: would be the impossible thing. If they were rigging it
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: every year, yes, people would have caught on by now.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: They're strategic about when they do it.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I think that it depends on the player, and I
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: think it has a lot more to do with getting
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: them getting that player to the place where they can thrive.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: You know, everybody wants to throw. Well, San Antonio is
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: not a big market. Anything about putting a player on.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I never said anything about putting a player in a
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: big market. I think Victor Wimbinyama was such a special case.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: They asked him where do you feel most comfortable? And
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: he said San Antonio, Tony Parker, and Greg Popovich, and yeah,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: that's where I feel most comfortable.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Of the teams in the lottery, right.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: And and and so it worked out and they had
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: decent odds that year.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: So no one would think anything more right except the smart.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Ones, right, except the ones who are on to them exactly.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, I think they do it, and it's
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: gonna be ourd And maybe they'll stop doing it now
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: that they've got the new rules in place and they're
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: gonna have fewer ping pong balls.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe they're gonna.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Stop doing it. I don't know, but I think when
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: they have a special product, that they strategically place him
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: where they think he'll flourish.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I would agree.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: That's that's my working theory.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: And even though I could never prove it in the courtroom,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: nor do I have an inclination to do so. I
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: also believe in ghosts, Aliens and Jesus. And I'm not
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: sure I could prove any of those things in a
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: courtroom either.
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  Speaker 3: No, probably not very difficult.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to close with this one. All right,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and pick it this. Did Dan
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: screw up another rule last night?
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: No?
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: What one?
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: When he challenged Brent Rooker leaving second too early? Because
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: he went straight to the challenge and I guess it failed.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: There wasn't a great explanation provided by Mariner's TV last night,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: or maybe they told him though, you can't do it yet,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: because I would think that.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: The steps are you have to old school like they
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: always do.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Pitcher has to step off of the rubber throw to
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the base that you think that the guy left early on,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: and then you have.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: To get a ruling okay, and then you challenge. Oh
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: like they went straight.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Dan went straight to the umpire to challenge whether Brent
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Rooker left early at second base And we never did
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: get a good angle on that Mariner's TV as to
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: whether or not that he did.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't understand the rule, but I would think
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: you had to, first of all, do it the old
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: school way, step off, throw to the bag that he left,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: and then get a ruling, and then based off of
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the ruling, then you have to challenge.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I think maybe they missed a step. They're not understanding
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: the rule. But then again, maybe the umpire said maybe
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: they don't. Number one, maybe they don't. Maybe I don't
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: understand it. I mean all these rules are new and different, right,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: And then number two, maybe the umpire told him no, no, no,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: you have to step off first, and no, no, no,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: maybe he said I can't do it Dan.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, maybe you just can't challenge that, right.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Remember we had to play similar to that earlier and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Dan ended up getting ejected, Yeah, because he couldn't from
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: the game because he didn't realize the umpire was trying
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: to protect him, like, I can't challenge that until you
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: do this first. And yet he couldn't tell him you
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: have to do this first, so Dan ends up getting
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: pissed off about it. No, the umpire was actually trying
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: to do you a favorite situation, So I don't know.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: He might it might have been another real screw up.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I know there's some new stuff here.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe I've got it screwed up, but I think you
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: have to step off first before you can challenge in
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: that situation, Maybe we.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Just need to challenge ourselves by not challenging.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe all right, Greg Bell's next, We'll talk to you
• 42:20
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