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Trekcast 374: The Writer's Strike is over, what does that mean for Star Trek? · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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Track Cast, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast. Hello, Welcome to
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Trek Cast, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast. It's so unpredictable.
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I didn't even give a thought to who was doing the intro until about a
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nano second before I hang out. So yeah, unpredictable. I'm I'm Dan.
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I'm one of your hosts. With me as always, Daniel, with
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me for now, with me for now is Scott for now for now?
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Very excited. How's everybody doing? Pretty great? Fantastic? Yeah, how's
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your week? Mine was great? Mine was great, really busy, lots
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of lots of home coming stuff. I've got a senior in high school and
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he was he was voted Spirit King, wowing. Plus he's in the marching
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band, so he is the spirit king. He does he say I am
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far from the bones with my grandfather. I will have to teach him that
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absolutely. Does he not know the ways? Apparently not not yet? Yeah,
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I have to get on. Oh cool. I was away for the
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whole week. Space Force had zero G combat training, so I was away
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from home for the whole week. Doesn't make me nauseous, does it?
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It does? Make me nauseous. It does, it does. So I
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got home Friday afternoon and I pretty much just laid on the couch since that's
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that's how exhausted I was. Just being on your feet constantly, you know,
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for the full day, and then when you're you know, when you're
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instructing, you're there an hour before and an hour after, and then you
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know it's it's training elsewhere. But then everybody wants let's go out afterwards,
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and and and throw a few back and yeah, so it was, it
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was. It was a long week. I'm glad to be home. Glad
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to be home. That being said, only watch the episode once, Okay,
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okay, I know that's becoming a reoccurring theme with me. Yeah,
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I know, I'm sorry. I watched it twice. In fact, I
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just got done watching in a second time. Really, I was taking some
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notes, all right, cool, can you pass me that? Can you
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pass me the notes? Yeah? Yeah, sure, underneath the desk,
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yeah exactly, exactly. Oh cool. How about you, Daniel, huh?
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How about you? Oh, just work stuff and uh, trying to
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think what else. I had a first date this weekend, so we'll see
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how that goes. Really really well, you know. You can't just drop
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a nugget like that. Okay, yeah, forget this whole episode stuff.
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I think we know what the next hour is going to be about. It
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was just the first date we went to. Okay, yeah, does she
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know that you? Does she know that you're a total nerd and have a
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Star Trek podcast. She doesn't a nerd, but she doesn't know about the
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podcast. Okay, that's a second that's a second date sort of thing.
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Yeah, you can't just you can't just drop kid, just drop that on
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the first date. Yeah, that's good. Hey cool. Hey. I
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also wanted to give a shout out because my mom's listening, So Hi mom,
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Well hey Scott's mom. Hey, we're dand go, We're dad go.
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Oh man, he just disappeared on it and zero G really kicked in
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apparently, Yeah, Daniel love cast don't know. Oh no, all right,
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well let's get to the news. I'm sure Dan will come back.
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Starts all right, So our first news story comes to us from trekmovie dot
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com and apparently time is running out. So what that they're talking about is
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time is running out for Star Trek legacy if it's going to actually happen.
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According to one of the Picard production designers. He says that basically, now
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that the writer's strike is over and it'slicking promising for the actor's strike, you
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know, basically, Hollywood's coming back to life, and you know, they
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haven't signed Star Trek Legacy yet, and Terry Matalis is going to be a
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busy boy pretty soon because if Star Trek doesn't snatch him up to do legacy,
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someone else is going to see what he did and how great it was,
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and they're gonna ask him to resurrect their franchises. So yeah, which
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is a very yeah, he's good. Yeah, it's very real possibility.
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So yeah, could be that Star Trek Legacy. It may not happen if
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they don't get on it soon, but nobody's you know, everybody's replaceable.
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Sure, no, we're not talking about you, Dan, that's right,
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he's getting it all together. But yeah, oh no, he can't hear
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us. I don't think they may try reconnecting. Dan, hear me,
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I can hear you? Okay, Yeah, I don't know. My my
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iPad crapt out. I don't know. I think I thought Scott thank me.
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He said hello to his mom and then I was gone, Yeah,
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if she was, if she was taking my place. But I'm I don't
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know what's going on my iPad. I'm on my phone. So if I
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sound a little bit far away, yeah you do, all right, it's
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okay. So yeah, So basically they're saying, if if they don't sign
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up Terry mattellas soon, that's it. Man legacy probably at least not without
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Terry mattallis wouldn't happens. Well, hopefully, starting like today, they've got
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executives, they're scrambling to get things done, you know, because of the
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you know, that's I'm probably stepping on your next news story. But you
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I was gonna say, you would think that that's that's the case, but
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right we don't know. So hopefully I know that they're planning big announcements for
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the New York City Comic Con, which is right around the corner. So
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as long as New York still isn't flooded. Yeah, yeah, that's another
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big news story. Yeah that's not Star Trek news, that's just regular news.
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But yeah, also so coming our next news story comes to us from
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Inverse and Picards. Season three could have had an alternate ending, So if
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you don't know Patrick Stewart is making the rounds. He's got a book tour
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coming around the corner, should be starting up pretty soon. And he's given
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a little bit of excerpts from his memoir Making It So, and he talks
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a little bit about Piccard Season three and how it almost had an alternate ending.
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Basically, it would have been that John Luke is back in his vineyard,
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his back is towards the viewers, and you hear a woman's voice say,
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Jean Luke, supper is ready. And then he goes on to say
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that would the voice be Beverly? Would it be Lauris? We don't really
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know. It isn't made clear. But his dog is with him, and
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he tells the dog, come on, boy, and they fade off and
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go to dinner, so eluding that it was what it's he won't say a
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loading that, you know, if it was Laris or if it was Beverly.
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No, I mean the end scene. I mean back in the vineyard
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and all that, like like it never happened, or it was a happily
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ever after or sounds like like a happily ever after for Pricard, Okay,
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like the Batman ending from the Batman rises, he's with his why girlfriend whatever,
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and that's the end of it. Okay, hopefully it wasn't going to
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be like the New Heart ending. Yeah, you never know, or turn
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off the hologram. Let's go, right, it happened, yeah, yeah,
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and then our last news story comes to us from Collider. I'm not
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gonna put it up because this website kinds of messes up my audio. Basically,
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the Star Trek four writer what is her name, Lindsay Anderson Beer basically
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says, yeah, we're still on track. I promise you everything's fine.
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It's it's all good here. Yeah. Yeah, that is as the kids
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say, cap, I believe, yeah, cap lies total cap. Yeah.
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So she says that they've been working hard on the project. That Lindsay
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has been working on the Pet Cemetery Bloodlines prequel movie, so she's been busy
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with that. But now that that's over, she can focus on Star Trek
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four and really get that going, and she's so excited for it. Ra
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Ra Ra also Star Trek leg Or A Star Trek Academy and Section thirty one
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are still in the works. So yeah, there we go. We'll see,
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we'll see. Yes, we've ter jaded fans. Yeah, back,
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we remember when the Tarantino was gonna have his book week, so so yeah,
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but yeah, that's all the news. All right. All right,
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well let's get to the main topic and review this episode, right, Finn
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will now connect. All right, So we had an interesting episode for Lower
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Decks Season four, Episode five, Empathetic Follies. This was an interesting episode
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to say the least. Basically, some beta zoids come on, some betasoid
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dignitaries come onto the streetos and immediately yeah yeah, a lot, a lot
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of swearing in this one, a lot of beeping. It's pretty fun.
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They got their whale tail drinks or whalebone drinks. Yeah, whale tails are
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a completely different thing. Yeah, oh boy. And then basically everyone goes
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nuts. And so the theory is that the beta zoids are admitting some sort
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of psychological thing, virus or just making everybody act crazy. Would you guys
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think I liked it? I actually did an F word count and I got
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eleven beeped out f words. One other words, we think it was a
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bs okay. But towards towards the end, they I don't even think they
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were trying to. They were just beeping out the U and and not beeping
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out anything else. I'll mean it was they were kind of I think in
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another couple of years, they're They're not even gonna bother to try to censor
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it. Probably not, although I do think that the beeps are funnier than
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the actual words. I do too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh.
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During the whole thing to Lynn is kind of upset feeling that she shouldn't
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be on the Spreetos. She feels like she should be able to go back
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to her Vulcan ship, and she's really really annoyed. So yeah, would
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you guys think about that storyline issue too? Yeah? I thought it was
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fun. I thought it was a lot of great callbacks. I feel like
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there weren't as many Easter eggs in this episode. It was just more of
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a wacky episode, right, just you know, a story for its own
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story. Yeah. I liked it. I liked it. I thought they
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worked in a couple of neat things. When they were doing the poetry,
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Slam, I caught something where he was talking about during the poem, he
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talked about Wharf the Warrior, and he says, no, the farm boy,
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and if you remember, Wharf grew up on a farming colony and I
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think it was called Gault. Foster parents raised him. It was a farming
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community. In fact, the two renegade cling Alert nerd alert. There you
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go, those three gun Yeah, those three clingons that I think it was
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a first season episode of The Next Narration. They came. They're the ones
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that came on board and created a phaser from parts of their belt and their
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boot and all that kind of stuff. And when Warf told him where he
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was from that he was raised on Gault, they said, Calts a farming
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community. So that was such a deep cut. Man. Hey, they're
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the ones that made it. I just called it out. Yeah yeah,
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yeah wow. But yeah, so it ends up that it's actually to Lynn
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is the one who is emitting some sort of psychological craziness that's making everybody act
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up, and she's actually vulcan as a motherfucker, as they say in the
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show. That's right, I don't have the beach here. Yo. It
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was hilarious. And then when she got her emotions in check, everyone else
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seemed to calm down. And yeah, I don't know, man, I
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thought this thing was hilarious. I think the Beta Zoid Trio was funny.
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I did suspect and I couldn't like figure it out anywhere. But I think
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that their dresses were supposed to match the hocus Pocus movie. Oh, I'll
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have to go back and look at that. Yeah. Yeah, like based
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on stuff that Troy's mother has worn over the years. Yeah, yeah,
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I think it was in that in the betozoid style, but like, I
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think the colors are from hocus Pocus. Well, we're getting in a view
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of Dan's neighborhood. Yeah, sorry, I had to check for dogs.
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It looked clear, so I think good. Yeah, I think we're good.
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No, I had to switch to the phone and the and the phone
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is running out of battery, so I had to plug it in and turn
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the way to do it. I know, I'm a mess. I thought
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maybe he was getting approached by Jehovah's witnesses again, Oh hopefully. Yeah.
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I feel like the more we see Vulcans, the least bulk and we see
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that they really are, yeah, stealing back to layers. Yeah, we're
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just peeling back to layers, and it's like you're not that different, you're
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just really, really really uptight. That's it. Yep, No, I
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agree. Originally we were believe that, you know, Vulcans don't have emotions.
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Vulcans are incapable of lying. Neither of those are our true statements,
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not at all. They have very intense emotions and they work very hard to
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suppress them. It's illogical to lie, so they don't do it except when
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it's logical, and then they do. Yeah, they can lie like a
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mother effort. Yes, yes, well there's that. There's somebody has taken
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the clip out of a book and it's Spock says Vulcans cannot lie, and
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then it says, quote he lied, Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly,
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yeah. Yeah. The one thing I had one of the notes that
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I took was so I don't know where the ship was during this mission,
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but they had to go through the Neutral Zone in order to get to Beta's
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D. No, they were going to Beta's D or whatever, and then
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because the Beta Zoid trio took over, they were like, for whatever reason,
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we're going to go to the neutral zone. Oh see, I'm I
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thought that they were going from Angel One, which is a reference to the
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Next Generation episode Angel One the All the Women, the Women planet, the
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planet where all the women were in charge yeah, they were going from angel
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One to Riza and then when all the I thought that, when all the
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Beta zois took over, they said, screw it, We're gonna go straight
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back to Beta's d No. I think they were just saying we're they went
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crazy and they wanted to okay ze either way. You know, the neutral
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zone is you know, it's not a straight line, it's space. Space
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is three dimensions, right, you know this, this neutral zone is.
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I would love to see a three dimensional representation of it because there's probably no
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rhyme or reason to it. It's probably okay, this planet's on this side,
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this planet's on this side, and you know X distance from this planet
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is where the Neutral zone starts, and X distance from this planet is the
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neutral zone starts here. So in some places it's really wide, in some
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places it's pretty narrow, you know, and in three dimensions. In some
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places, you know, up here is the Neutral zone, but just below
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it's Federation space. But just below that you're in the Neutral zone again,
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right right. I've got the official map up according to Reddit, but still
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that's a two dimensional map. It's a two dimensional map. We'll see if
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we can get the Neil de grass Tyson on here to explain it to us.
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Yes, yeah, he'll be on the next week's episode. Yeah,
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okay, cool. Yeah. But speaking of the babies or the neutral zone,
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I loved the end of the episode where they had the Romulan ship just
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kind of lurking there, and and when the Torito's changed courts, we're like,
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oh they turned around, let's right, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
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just lurk. Yeah. I like that. Everybody was just drinking in
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the bar, just going nuts. That one bird guy was going nuts with
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the oh he was just yeah, he was destroying that replicator. Yeah it's
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regurgitated soup. Yeah. Gross. And then all the security guys are like,
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we don't just secure physically, we secure emotionally and yeah yeah. But
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when it was time to take action, they reminded me of the those Special
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Forces guys on Enterprise. Yeah, Makos yeah yeah, yeah. They went
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into action. Yeah, they hoped to really quick. Ye and they and
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they were badass, man. They took everybody down real quick, right right,
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because they the beta Zoids were like there, they said they were Beta
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Zoid intelligence, so yeah, probably special Forces type yeah, yeah, undercover
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operator, remember that, because it was it was like the CIA, right,
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it was yeah, so yeah. Oh and then the other thing was
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the Cat Doctor. Apparently they used to eat beta zoids I know, yeah
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it was great. Now we only eat synthetic betas. Yeah yeah, yeah.
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She kept licking her lips and yeah, I just wanted to eat them
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so bad. Yeah. Oh I loved it. Learn more and more about
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about her culture, and she was all like, oh, those delicious beata
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zoids are yeep yep. That that cracked me up. And then also like
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sharks knew exactly what to do when she was just going bonkers. That was
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pretty funny. He's got that training, man. Oh he's he's well trained
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in that. He's multifaceted for sure. But we're we're about the halfway point
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of this season. I was just gonna half where we're at. Yeah,
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we're halfway, okay, So we've got about five more episodes left, so
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we're gonna find out. We're gonna find out anything with this mystery ship.
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I mean they've been teasing it for five straight episodes now. Today, this
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last episode, this episode, I would imagine, like you can't really do
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you know, call it like that and not start doing something with it soon
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I'm sure they've got a plan. Yeah, you know, obviously. I
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just hope they don't spend all season building up to a two part finale and
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we get nothing or even worse. Dan It could be they build up to
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something big and oh it's just a something lame. Yeah. Well, we've
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got five more episodes left, so that means one of them is going to
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be there. Weird doesn't do with anything episode, it's not even our main
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characters. So that's somewhere in there. Yep. Yeah. So do you
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think we're gonna get whether it's this season or next season, you think we're
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gonna get an episode called even Lower Decks? Yeah, where we're gonna we're
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gonna watch like four non commissioned officers. That's a really good I like,
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you know, the nis Cell crew or something. Yeah, that'd be great.
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I like that. Man, I don't know, because they're they're kind
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of graduating right there. They're a little bit their middle management. Now yeah,
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middle they're middle deckers. Yeah, they're middle deckers. So I don't
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a man, but yeah, I like the episode. I guess we'll see
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what happens. We don't have the Will Wheaton Show right now because I guess
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they didn't tape it in time before the strikes. So yeah, did we
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mention that, By the way, what about the strike, We talked a
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little bit about how they're Yeah, Star Trek four is supposed to be still
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on track, right, Yeah, And then I did mention in the news
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stories that the writers strike is over. I should probably pay attention. Yeah,
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And then that the actor's strike looks pretty promising to end soon. They've
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got a meeting tomorrow with the studio heads. And basically the writers and the
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actors both wanted about the same deal. So if the actors are the writers
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already got it, then it should be pretty easy to say, like,
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all right, we'll give you the same thing, go away. So it's
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looking like it could probably end yeah this week. Maybe that'd be good in
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theory. In theory, so that'd be good. Yeah, But it's we
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will feel the effects of this and that probably next year, just because they
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so many films didn't get made, or like Deadpool three stopped right in the
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middle of it, and it's not as easy. It's just like all right,
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everybody go back to work. It's you have to make sure everybody's got
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the time to do it. Their schedules are open back up. It's it's
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kind of a pain, right, It doesn't just start back up where where
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it left off, right right? Yeah? You so, yeah, there's
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big delays to television shows. All the TV shows that we're going to start
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basically this month this week, all delayed till next year. So yeah,
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you know everything. Yeah, so I mean Disco should still be on track
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for next year. That that sounds like it because it was so far advanced
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already, like it was almost done, thank goodness, because you know I
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was worried. I know you were. But then after that, like there's
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gonna be a long gap, yeah, because you know, it's not like
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Strange New World's started anything, you know, and well what Strange New World
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doesn't come back until did I hear twenty twenty five? Potentially? Yeah,
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because they have to write everything and then shoot it, and it's not like
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it's like we said, it's just not as easy to turn it back on,
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right, and it's not just writing it and then let's go. It's
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you gotta build the props, you gotta build the sets, those those VR
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walls, even though they're they're easier to do making those designs or takes in
24:49
the in the program right right, So yeah, it's not as quick as
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people think. So, and then animation is similar, like it takes forever.
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Yeah, the lower decks will be they need to hurry up because this
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eventually, you know, potentially affects me because you know, depending on how
25:08
long I'm going to be doing this show. You know, if there's not
25:11
Star Trek on, then we're only doing this every other week, And what
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am I supposed to do with every other one of my Sundays? I've got
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some ideas? Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, so that that's basically
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the show. Do you guys catch Aska? Yes? I did? Is
25:32
it me? Or does Admiral Stron look like Gris? What's his name?
25:40
Of course I'm I'm drawn a blank. Now people won't call him smurf data
25:45
the guy won't stuff. Oh, Elon Musk, Elon Musk. Does he
25:52
look like Elon Musk blue makeup? Or is it just me? Well?
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He okay? So his brother is Mad's Michelson who was Hannibal Bomb who Yeah,
26:03
he wasn't in Rogue one. He was the designer of the of the
26:07
Death Star. That's ns Michelson. Okay, Yeah, so his brother there.
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Those two are actual brothers, and they both kind of already looked like
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Elon by by nature, you know. Yeah, so I don't think it
26:21
was an intentional thing. They just happened to look that way. Okay,
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all right, Bronson Elon Smurf. Yeah, what do you guys think of
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Asoka? I'm liking it. It took a little bit to get going,
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but I like it. Yeah, I'm enjoying it. Yeah, But at
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the same time, it gets me upset because I know where it goes after
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this. Yeah, true, I know it goes to the Secret Trilogy,
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which I rewatched this week, okay, and any new insights. And I
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caught one thing that I never realized before. When Finn and Rose arrested in
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the casino, Yeah, the officers start reading them their rights, which I
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thought is it was odd that, you know, a long time ago,
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in a galaxy far far away, they're abiding by the nineteen sixty six Supreme
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Court of the United States decision Miranda Miranda versus Arizona. Right. But yeah,
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yeah, that is interesting. Right. I just read an article about
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their use of lightsabers now and how it's progressed from the original trilogy. The
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sequel trilogy even to the newer shows that some of the newer shows like Mandalorian,
27:41
they would actually have functioning light up lightsabers that they would duel with,
27:47
but the battery packs had to be up the sleeves of the actors. And
27:52
now they've the battery technology is so good that they actually have lightsabers that they
27:57
use on the set for their battles, for for filming their battles with the
28:03
battery packs inside the hilt, so that that lets them light up a lightsaber
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tube that makes the lighting easier to for the you know, the effects guys
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to do. And so they're actually fighting with what looks like realistic lightsabers and
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they just add some you know, pizzazz in post. So I imagine it's
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not those like foes that they saw at Disneyland. Like they're even better than
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that, right exactly. Yeah, So because even as you know, like
28:32
back in in the prequel trilogy, they were just using aluminum rods and when
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they were going back and forth, they were getting bent up, and then
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they went to fiberglass and then for like the Mandalorian they were using light up
28:45
rods. So yeah, yeah, I guess we'll see I we got one
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more episode of Asoka one or two, something like two. I think we
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just had episodes six. Well maybe, yeah, I'm not sure. I
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don't have any They got reunited with Space Moses, so that's yeah. Yeah,
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as was back. Yeah, and he was like pushing everybody with the
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force, which is pretty fun. I actually like to see that we had.
29:15
We've only really seen that one other time where a Jedi or a Jedi
29:18
like person's fighting without his lightsaber, and it was Kylo Red. It was
29:22
fighting off the guys in Skywalker. Yeah, one of them. Yeah,
29:29
so yeah, no, I liked it. I don't even know which movie
29:33
you're watching when you watch the sequel trilogy, any other Star Wars movie you
29:38
could you could, you know, describe a situation and I could say,
29:44
yeah, that was an Empire strikes strikes, right, could describe a situation
29:48
with ray Fin, Paul, you know, Kylo Ren, all those people,
29:55
like, yeah, I remember that happened. I don't remember what movie
29:59
it was in. I don't remember the plot. Right. That's the reason
30:03
why that is is because those movies had individually had some fantastic scenes in them,
30:10
but the storyline was so screwed up. That you don't it wasn't cohesive.
30:12
You don't care, you don't remember what I know that Jedi is the
30:17
best one. So which one was that? That's the one where throws away
30:23
the middle wood, Yeah, the middle one. And then and then they
30:27
do force zoom colors. Yeah, yeah, the middle of one with the
30:33
really angry at eight, that's right. And then and then Lucas drinking that
30:37
milk straight up the straight up the creature. Oh yeah, he didn't.
30:45
He didn't apply his mouth to the teeth that would be, that would be
30:48
from the top. He did. He did pour a glass for himself.
30:51
Well, he poured himself a glass, all right. Yeah, and then
30:53
he and then he confronts Kylo Renda as a as a force ghost, kind
30:56
of force projection. Like you said, it like a zoom call, Jedi
31:02
zoom call. Barely you can say the galaxy over a zoom call. It's
31:07
it's great. Absolutely yeah. I'm not even on stream yard right now.
31:11
I'm just concentrating really hard. That's right, you're doing good. Thank you.
31:18
I'm gonna die after this, but you know, I'm willing to make
31:22
the sacrifice, that's right. The sacrifices for the show you wife's gonna walk
31:26
in and the head who did she get her coffee today? Yes? She
31:30
did? Okay, yes she did. I made I made her some fresh
31:33
coffee. I'm drinking some fresh coffee out of my Star Trek original series MUG.
31:37
We just got done watching uh get the Galileo and the Squire of Gathos.
31:48
Yes it, Uh they're good. No, it's anytime you want to
31:53
sing Dan anytime. Those two episodes were okay, I remember this. I
32:00
had never seen the Squire of Gotha. I had never seen either one all
32:01
the way through, but the Squire of Gothos specifically featured tree Lane, and
32:09
he in the novel that I read, Q Squared, tree Lane is actually
32:16
a Q or Q adjacent and so if you rewatch that episode with that in
32:23
mind, it it's a lot more fun to watch. So and the Galileo
32:28
seven, I don't know if the episode is called galile or Galileo seven,
32:30
but that was pretty much you kind of knew where the episode was going.
32:37
The Galileo crash lands, and it's Spock and McCoy and a couple other crew
32:42
members, and all the crew members are upset at Spot because he's not you
32:45
know, taking things emotionally like the death of a crewman, and Spock is
32:51
perplexed because well, logic's going to solve everything, and of course at the
32:54
end of the day, it's a little bit of both that helps him escape.
32:58
So the episodes are getting better. They're they're not quite as misogynistic and
33:07
racist. And I'm sure you guys know, but I saw the Sad Sad
33:14
Thing last night and it kind of I'm still a little bit grappling with it.
33:17
Dominic Masterio lost the North American title at No Mercy, So that's wrestling.
33:23
You've never heard of Dominic dirty domand mommy, duh, come on,
33:30
Dan, his real father's Eddie Guerrero. Probably you know, it's all these
33:36
things. Anyways, you don't know that storyline Eddie Guerrero and the about the
33:40
dad and the thing and the yeah yeah, they had a child custody battle
33:46
in a ladder match. The papers were hung above the ring and that's how
33:50
they that's how they decided to do what the father was. That's a real
33:54
story. So it was like it was like that Stalone movie over the top
33:59
where you are, that is a ww storyline. Who's the real dad?
34:06
Him? Got it and grab the paper over the top. You went up
34:10
grand and a new semi and your kid. There you go. Oh all
34:21
right, well let's let's get just a listener feedback on that note. Hey,
34:34
over the top, that's right. Oh yeah, they did it.
34:37
Has anybody else ever seen that movie? Oh? Fucket, dude, I
34:43
got so excited. I'm swearing then. Oh oh dirty d and mom,
34:51
yeah, it's it's dirty dumb. Speaking of which, we got Chazz Bizz
34:54
on the line since he logged in first. So there you got. What
34:59
up this? Hello, I'm thinking over the top right now? You know
35:05
you got and you got a Yeah, you gotta flip it. It's hard
35:15
to do it. One you flipped it, You're good to go. Oh.
35:21
Dan kind of looks, dude, Dan kind of looks to turn your
35:23
head around. Dan, Oh, he looks like the bad guy. He
35:27
looks like the bad guy. Yeah, oh yeah, wow. I remember
35:34
when I kid, I remember being so disappointed when I saw the preview for
35:38
that because I thought it was another Rocky movie. Oh yeah, I would
35:45
have been a better Rocky five, like like Rocky's done on it. Look
35:52
are you talking about this guy? Yeah? That's the guy you got you
36:00
think, Dan, Dan, next time we do the show, I want
36:02
you to show up in one of those armless us. What he looks like
36:07
when he brings the dog back to that dog. I'm gonna I'm gonna go
36:14
out there and I'm gonna say that when we go to trek Long Island,
36:17
I will arm rustle anyone there and oh boys, anything of the episode and
36:28
then they get to take your kid home with me. Come on, kid,
36:34
I win drive it home in my new SEBBI. Thing is he doesn't
36:47
know how to do the gears. He's just grinding them all. I'll see
36:52
if my company will let me borrow one of the rigs. Perfect, Jesmine?
37:00
Would you think of the episode that it was good? You know?
37:06
You know the funniest part was the cat. Yeah, I saw your lips
37:12
and it's I thought that was hilarious. And having the Balcans are the Vulcan
37:19
and the betas voids with their craziness. It's like, how does the star
37:24
Trek ship function with telepaths that can overthrow a whole ship just being in menopause
37:32
and and whatever. Yeah, that's what it was. So what do you
37:42
think they were drinking? Mm hmm it was a glowing green beverage. Yeah,
37:52
it's like maybe it was a mixer. Yeah, yeah, no,
37:58
that's blue. Yeah, well it wasn't a cor whatever they used to have
38:02
the worker breach. Yeah, maybe it's that. Maybe then the one guy
38:08
was a green drink pour breach. Yeah, then the one guy's in the
38:15
bar. They kept on making out the whole time. You'd say them,
38:20
oh yeah, they'd like scoot across the screen. Yeah, never get off
38:23
each other though. It's kind of there's always that couple at a party.
38:29
There's always over each other. Yeah, whether you want to see it or
38:32
not, it's just and uh, the slam poetry I thought was good.
38:40
So are you gonna do some slam poetry for us now? No? No,
38:45
no, absolutely not boiler and then oh back tackled slam poetry. Actually,
38:59
I am about two or three lines into uh ode to spot the deuce,
39:04
So I figured, by Christmas, I'm gonna have that ready for you,
39:07
Dan, that's something that's gonna happen. So I just realized I did
39:13
the Picard maneuver. Dan, did you notice a shirt that I'm wearing today?
39:15
Nice Dace from institute. Nice yep, that warning warning NERD Alert NERD
39:24
Alert dace from Institute of Advanced Robotics. Okay, so are you the robot
39:32
I work on them? Oh nice? I just got is that the hoodie
39:38
wanted some companies sent us ever get who No, my dad gave me this
39:44
one space nice? Nice and uh jazz biz what what? What? What's
39:50
your has? Say? This check hast right there? Oh there you go.
39:54
Yeah, he's on brand. Yeah like the rest of us. Right
39:59
there. Yeah, got trick cast in this corner and trick cast in the
40:02
bottom corner. So hey, at least he knows who Dirty Domond Mommy is.
40:07
No, I just put Dirty Dan. You mentioned you hurt my feelings.
40:15
I haven't watched wrestling since the Rock was on their rocket he was another
40:20
two weeks ago. Yeah, but I mean like when they were hot regular
40:23
Yeah. Okay, that used to be Monday Night Raw and all that hes
40:29
watch Yeah, yeah, okay, and that was that was one thing I
40:32
did, like my senior year of high school. We'd sit there and watch
40:36
that and drink and have fun. There you go. My mom didn't know,
40:40
and then smoke a little you know what, and yeah, and I
40:52
was gonna say on a soca. Yeah, why doesn't her ship take any
41:00
damage whatsoever. That's a good point. Oh, she was in a whale
41:05
for a while. She was in a whale, and then her ship got
41:08
shot down. Then she gets all the ship and she does like a backflip
41:13
over and then yes, I was like, okay, yeah, the space
41:19
defense scenes, the outside the ship's space defense scenes are a little bit far
41:24
fetched. But you know, maybe it's because it was just a badass Jedi.
41:30
Yeah, well, I just wanted ship to get a little scarred up,
41:34
beat up. She's covered in plot armor, the ship she has covered
41:37
him, Yes, very much. That's what it is. It's the strongest
41:42
armor in all of it. Literature, way too much plot armor. Yeah,
41:46
Mando did didn't have any such luck. No, he did not,
41:51
because he went from a very large spacecraft to a Nubian fighter. Yeah,
41:58
and I don't know how you sit across and fly across the galaxy in that
42:02
little bit he Nubian fighter? Where do the big question? Where do you
42:07
appe? Exactly? Where do you appee? Yeah, that is the question
42:10
we asked people too in uh where does Porthos poop? Yeah? Oh that's
42:16
right, where does he poop? Where does he been I'm pretty sure his
42:20
armor has a best scar capeitter go. Yeah, I was gonna ask you,
42:25
damn maybe you could ask Space for us, ask Space for us if
42:29
they have any thoughts on that. Yeah, I do it right down the
42:31
leg of my flight. Soup. There you go, there you go,
42:36
all right, Jas, there's anything else you want to bring on? We
42:37
got other people. It's you know, this seasons it's been all right.
42:42
I'm just hoping to picks up a little bit, you know. Last two
42:45
episodes been kind of Yeah, and it's not it's this season is not my
42:52
favorite season so far. Yeah, like the other two were so much better.
42:57
Boy, and I don't think that this season's again ound grade. I
43:00
think it's that we're used to what they do. Yeah, so it's not
43:05
the novelty is gone. Yeah, you know, and I just hope they
43:08
can kick it back up the next few episodes. Yeah, because I really
43:13
love Lower Decks. It's probably my favorite of the new shows besides the Card
43:19
season three, because Card season threees was perfect. So yeah, it's pretty
43:22
great. Yeah, I'm gonna go back and rewatch that. I know.
43:27
I would love to rewatch it. I'm not gonna rewatch the first two,
43:30
probably because I just get angry. Yeah, so it's kind of like like
43:36
Dan's watching the Star Wars movies and you know the new sequels, they just
43:44
you know what on the SOCA what it's leading to, because it's it's basically
43:49
Luke given up and dounaways lightsaber and then disappearing and then every character dies in
43:54
each episode. So I had a theory about that just really quick. My
44:00
thought was what they could do to fix the sequel trilogy because the main villain
44:07
in the sequel trilogy is not Emperor Palpatine. He hardly kills anybody. It's
44:12
General Hucks. He murders like a trillion people when he fires that giant planet
44:22
star destroyer weapon death Star Weapon. Okay, so Force users can see into
44:28
the future, right right, Why don't we have a super strong Jedi or
44:32
Jedi Force user Force user type person see into the future, see that and
44:38
then change it. They could reckon the entire thing. They could fix it.
44:43
They'll have the same characters. Yeah, they could do it. They
44:45
could. They could have the same characters, only not have a trillion people
44:49
die. Yeah, make a multiverse, bring ready back everybody. They won't
44:54
do it. Yeah, they're cowards. Oh, they don't have the balls
44:59
too. The new trilogy, the New Trilogy was so woke that they can't
45:08
risk people thinking that they think it was a mistake. Yeah, I don't
45:15
think that's what it is. I think they spent billions of dollars in Disneyland
45:19
and Disney World and setting up their star trick lands to match the New trilogy.
45:24
That to then just say, hey, you know, wiping this away,
45:29
that's a huge investment. They could still do the same characters. They
45:32
could still have Ray and Finn and Poe and all those other people. I
45:38
know, Like I actually liked the new characters. Like when First I Can
45:43
started, I really liked that movie, Like that was an awesome movie because
45:47
they built it up, and then the sequel comes then it just kind of
45:53
on that movie. I was like, I don't know if I love this
45:54
movie or I'm just very angry right now. What I'm waiting for. I
46:00
promise you, on a long enough timeline, if it's five years, if
46:02
it's fifty years from now, at some point, they're going to reboot the
46:07
original trilogy and just redo them. Yeah. May it may not be in
46:13
our lifetimes, but it'll happen. Yeah, yeah, but yeah in our
46:19
life, I mean would they allow it. That'd be like rebooting back to
46:22
the future. I mean, don't do that too keep what time do you
46:27
think they'll uh recast? Look, Skywalker and these new series eventually this timeline,
46:37
I think they need a recast and have bring in Layah and bring in
46:40
Luke and actually face thrown because really, if you read like Air to the
46:45
Empire and that whole series, it's like you kind of want to see that
46:51
happen. Well, he's right now. They had Luke in Mandalorian. Yeah,
46:55
it's not, but I mean they're great new character. Yeah, just
47:01
just bringing Bucky and bringing Leah's daughter and had them then you know, cast
47:07
them as as Luke and Leia. You know, the solo guy. He
47:12
didn't do too bad, so fine. Yeah, the story on that was
47:15
a little well, how they named Tom solo was ridiculous on there. But
47:21
besides that, I really kind of liked the movie. It was it was
47:22
different. It was very right on that. So you're by yourself, so
47:30
solo, Yeah, it's like, oh, come on, I like that.
47:35
I thought that was I thought that was pretty cool. The way he
47:38
got paid. Oh really, yeah, I disagree is Lando, So I
47:45
don't really care. As long as I get more Lando, I'm good.
47:47
Yeah. Lando was great on there. I love you know. Donald Glover
47:51
did a perfect job as Land. Oh he did? Agree? Yeah,
47:52
absolutely, And and nobody gives that movie you love but it is. Actually
47:58
I think it's a fun movie. Yeah, it's a fun movie because it's
48:01
not. It's just kind of a one off. It's a story. Yeah,
48:05
it's not. They're gonna say the Galaxy. It's more like a heist
48:08
type thing. All right, Well, thanks Jasmins for being on. We've
48:15
got uh, we got hipster Spock waiting, so let's bring him on as
48:19
well. Poor guy who's been waiting for quite a while. Thank you for
48:22
your patience. Everybody. What's going on? Hey there? Can you guys
48:28
hear me? I like that you got your hat backwards? Are you gonna
48:30
go fight for a kid now? Or what's going on? Yeah? I
48:37
just I just put it on because this thing like that. I like that.
48:44
Yeah, I put it on. It's it's a Red Sox app but
48:47
p and Okay, anyway, I was just wondering, like I imagine you
48:57
were talking about the lightsabers, right, so imagine you came home and see
49:01
your kids fighting with the four hundred dollars Disney lightsaber. Yeah. If I
49:09
saw my kid fighting with the four hundred dollar Disney lightsaber, I would probably
49:13
grab the other four hundred dollars Disney lightsaber and duel with them. Yeah,
49:20
it's just an excuse to get more later. Oh, we broke these,
49:22
we need more. H Oh, it's time to go back to Disneyland.
49:28
Yeah, exactly, yep, yeah, for sure. Remind me over at
49:34
the top is the Stallone arm Wrestling movie? Right? Yep? Correct,
49:38
child Disney arm Wrestling all as it should be. Mm hmm. And uh,
49:45
you were talking about some guy named Misstereo. The last time I heard
49:49
that name was Ray miss Stereo back in the day. Dom Is his son
49:54
is legitimate son? Really? Okay, I've been out out of that luke.
50:00
Which one of them flought Spider Man? It would be Ray Spider Man.
50:05
He's dressed up like actual Mysteria before. Okay. Yeah, I mean
50:13
hearing that name just brings me back to those days when I was like I
50:16
was watching like the Rock beating up a Triple Agents stuff and all that.
50:23
Yeah, that was like what mid nineties or something. Go grab your mountain
50:29
dew and relive the good times. Yeah, and you guys were talking about
50:35
reboot and like a while ago, like during this past week, I was
50:39
seeing something about The Last Starfighter. Remember that movie? Oh yeah, yeah,
50:45
yeah, And so I put that on some of the trek things because
50:52
I saw a review about that or some video essay about that, and I'm
50:57
like, well, yeah, that was an awesome movie if I can what
51:00
eighty four or something, and and and then I start seeing people writing at
51:07
the comments like oh, maybe that could use a reboot, and I'm like,
51:12
hell, now, well they every few years it's like, oh,
51:15
we're gonna do a sequel to it finally, and then nothing happens. So
51:21
well that that's one of those movies that where I think, just leave it
51:25
alone. It was great as a one off. Yeah, it's a good
51:30
time capsule movie like that premise like planing in Arcade and everything that doesn't happen
51:35
anymore really, so it's good for that time error. I mean, they
51:39
could do it. They could do it differently. They could have a mobile
51:44
game or something. It's a mobile game. It's an Xbox Live game that
51:50
you know, the Aliens put it on the server. It's a free download.
51:52
Kids start downloading it, they start playing it, not realizing they're auditioning
51:57
for a role in the you know, Space Armada or whatever. I mean,
52:00
they could up, they could update the story. I've never seen the
52:05
movie. What okay, Well we have put that on your Yeah, I
52:14
will watch it post taste. Yeah, it's fantastic. All right, Hold
52:17
on a minute, Hold on a minute, Enemy Mine? Have you seen
52:21
that one? Okay? Enemy Mine? The short answer is probably I.
52:30
When I was growing up, my aunt had HBO and she would record movies
52:34
for me. I'm talking back in the early to mid eighties. Enemy Mine
52:38
was a tape that had you know, the six hour tapes had three movies
52:43
each, and I would watch them as a kid. Enemy Mine was one
52:46
of them. I remember bits and pieces of it, and I think the
52:52
same thing with the movie we were just talking about. So I might have
52:54
seen it back way back in the day, but I'll have to I'll rewatch
53:00
both of them. Yet I'm on it. I realize I have responsibilities here,
53:06
so right, you know, so it does everybody else? Dude?
53:10
Yeah, I got you, yea, And yeah, So back to the
53:19
episode, right, Like I'm just thinking it's in that kind of racist took
53:22
cues beata's a sport, those throwing around those telepathic signals when there was the
53:29
Vulcan. It's one hundred percent racist. You're absolutely right, it is.
53:35
It's not Yeah, you're not wrong. Yeah, so come up, I
53:39
can't believe they did that. And another thing, yeah exactly, man,
53:45
what the hell? And like, I hope they don't pull a disco on
53:50
that white ship stuff. Oh and like become friends with it. No,
53:55
not that, but you know, like, uh what remember this Goo used
54:00
to like put this mystery mystery box well season arts and it ended up being
54:07
nothing. Yeah, and or being some bullshit stuff. I hope they don't
54:12
do that. Oh, it's gonna be the ship of the Bugs, Dan,
54:16
Yes, your bugs. Don't get me started on the bug what the
54:25
bug guys indies or something? No, the ones that took over Starfleet back
54:30
in season one of Next Gen. Yeah, conspiracy things. Yeah, yeah,
54:39
my big theory for what was that? Pocard season three yep, pareamount
54:45
heard your cries? Well they did see the thing in Pacard season three,
54:50
Like originally it was going to be the bugs and then they decided to go
54:53
with the changelains instead. Yeah, we'll see yeah. Yeah. And my
55:00
last thing is that, well, I think that all this stuff about AI,
55:07
it's totally overblown. AI isn't really that good because you know, it's
55:13
like every everything that you you make is a mash up of what you've saw,
55:21
what you've seen before, right, and so AI pretty much does it
55:25
and it just a parlor chick because it's able to communicate with you, like,
55:31
you know, like it's some sort of human but you know, it's
55:38
if you really think about it, it just taking the most logical thing.
55:44
It's basically a Bulkan good yeah, and so you know, and it's there's
55:52
no emotions and stuff. So it's like, is it really okay? It's
55:59
very clever, but I don't think it's all that. And the media is
56:02
making it out to be all that investors and all that stuff, and I'm
56:06
like, I mean, I've I've asked that several times to come up with
56:10
some uh star trek you know, episode idea, and ninety percent like all
56:17
a bit pretty much sound like each other. Yeah, but that that's the
56:22
issue right right now, it's not that great creatively, but it could be
56:29
in a few generations. It's heading in a certain direction. Yeah, and
56:31
so you need to have the rules in place now because if you wait too
56:36
much. True. Yeah, I agree with everyone out. So that's why
56:39
there's the freak out. So yeah, yeah, you compare to you compared
56:45
AI. You said it's basically a vulcan, right, but a vulcan is
56:51
just a romulan with self discipline, right, that's the direction it's heading.
56:57
Yeah, they're pretty dangerously. Yeah, it's not great now or it's not
57:02
showing you know, emotion now, but it'll get there. Yeah. Oh,
57:07
look at how far it's come just in the last I mean, AI
57:09
has been out, like the kind of AI we're talking about, like the
57:12
chat GBT and things like that, and hey, make an episode of whatever
57:15
for me that's only been out for a year. See. And this is
57:20
why every time I use chat GBT, I say please and thank you,
57:22
because when the robots with Alexa, yeah, when the robots take over,
57:28
I want them to like, ah, he was all right. In fact,
57:30
whenever I ask Alexa to do something and then she does it, and
57:35
then you can see the circle, that little circle ring continue to and then
57:37
I'll say thank you and she'll be like, hey, no problem, like
57:42
I'm I'm just waiting for you to acknowledge me or say thank you or be
57:45
polite's checking out, like that's really being got the list. They's just checking
57:53
names off. I mean, that's that's the that's true with everything, right,
57:59
they just want to yea, I appreciate it exactly, all right,
58:07
guys, thanks, thanks for yeah, but all right, now that we're
58:15
all polite to ai. Right, So we did ask people where does Porthos
58:21
poop? Basically the the overwhelming answer was wherever he wants, and then the
58:27
second yeah, and then the other answer was out the airlock. There were
58:32
a few people who thought that maybe the the pooh would get just teleported out
58:39
out in the space. So whatever, fun question, I guess, yeah,
58:45
absolutely, all right, anything else you guys want to bring up,
58:52
Oh, that's all right. Any other feedback, No, that's it for
58:55
now. But yeah, so we'll be back next we go the next episode,
59:00
and yeah, all right, sending that feedback email trek as tng at
59:07
gmail dot com about what's a good way to send in audio just video video
59:15
notes. Send me a video note MP three, keep it under two minutes
59:19
so that way I can animate you and uh and it'll be fun for the
59:22
show. I found the easiest way to do that is to, uh,
59:25
you know, do a voice record. You know, there's a voice recorder
59:28
on everybody's cell phone. Use the voice recorder and attach that that file to
59:31
a to an email exactly exactly. All right, Well, thanks everybody for
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