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AEW Hot Topics | Strickland, Ospreay Out - Who Steps Up? · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine Cognition five four three two one zero.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: ignition with the ae W fan podcast team. We just
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  Speaker 2: saw from the O to Arena in London, Forbidden Door
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  Speaker 2: and Boy After Forbidden Door, all kinds of news dropped. Well,
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  Speaker 2: some things we already knew about, but we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 2: about some of the things the hot topics in a W.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit later, we're gonna talk about Mercedes Monette
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  Speaker 2: and Tony Storm. We're gonna have a great pot pore segment,
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  Speaker 2: I believe, but we're gonna start out with by well,
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  Speaker 2: by the time you hear this, we're Strickland may have
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  Speaker 2: already gone under the knife for surgery on his torn meniscus.
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  Speaker 2: And of course we know that will Osprey is going
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  Speaker 2: to require next surgery. We don't know when he's having it,
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  Speaker 2: but look, both Swerve and will Osprey, will Osprey particularly
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  Speaker 2: is going to probably be out a lot longer. They're
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  Speaker 2: gonna both miss time in AAW. And now it's next
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  Speaker 2: man up. Well, next woman up too doesn't necessarily mean
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  Speaker 2: that a woman or women can't step up and take
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  Speaker 2: charge of AW. So the question is which wrestlers do
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  Speaker 2: you think will put a wander back and charge forward
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  Speaker 2: while Osprey and Strickland are out.
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  Speaker 3: I have an interesting suggestion. Does anybody here watch Being
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  Speaker 3: the Elite? Basically the latest episode of Being the Elite
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  Speaker 3: had a Matt and Nick moping on the couch and
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  Speaker 3: at one point they received a call from one Jack
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  Speaker 3: Perry that they ignored. But Jack Perry has officially been
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  Speaker 3: breathed into like the consciousness of people anyway, get the
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  Speaker 3: people who watch Being dealt anyhow, But I would love
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  Speaker 3: to see a Jack Perry return.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, who else, guys?
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  Speaker 4: Well, there are some returns coming back from here from healing,
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  Speaker 4: and Orange Cassidy of one of them comes back.
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  Speaker 5: But I hope he.
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  Speaker 4: I hope he has a freshly squeezed turn of gimmick,
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  Speaker 4: a little bit he needs, he needs.
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  Speaker 5: He's become a little stale.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, go ahead, Berry. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think Orange will be Orange is gonna be fun
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  Speaker 1: when he comes back, which according to the Post today,
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  Speaker 1: I think is imminent because towards the end of his
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  Speaker 1: running he was getting a little edgier. He was not
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  Speaker 1: he was less reserved about losing his cool, and that'll
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  Speaker 1: be fun. Kelson. You mentioned women, and one of the
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  Speaker 1: things that we've talked about on the pod a lot
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  Speaker 1: is just how strong and how deep the women's division
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  Speaker 1: has gotten. And when you talk depth, you've got eight ten.
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  Speaker 1: You can probably argue twelve active women on the roster
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  Speaker 1: on TV every week doing or involved in legitimate feuds.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing really holding back that division for being
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  Speaker 1: supercharged at the moment is having one more segment on TV.
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  Speaker 1: And if I'm looking at any group ready to step up,
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  Speaker 1: I think there's more than enough men to cover it.
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  Speaker 1: You've got a good amount of depth there. Even though
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  Speaker 1: the big time babyfaces are gone. I think they're okay,
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  Speaker 1: but putting the company on the back for the time being,
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  Speaker 1: you don't need to necessarily build a new male star.
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  Speaker 1: You just need to accentuate some of the existing female
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  Speaker 1: stars you've got with another segment, and that could easily
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  Speaker 1: eat up a match that will Or score was going
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  Speaker 1: to be in, or a backstake cement that will Or
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  Speaker 1: swore was going to be in. If I'm Tony, I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking to get a part of my company that has
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  Speaker 1: proven they can draw when needed, They're not going to
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  Speaker 1: draw the same way. Maybe a swerve in osprey matches,
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  Speaker 1: but you can put them on as a main event
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  Speaker 1: on a collision or a dynamite. You give that women
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  Speaker 1: another segment, and I think that's where the answer is
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of the depth they need to look
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  Speaker 1: to right now.
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  Speaker 2: I agree and Ed, well, look it really you've got
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  Speaker 2: the depth. But one of the complaints I've seen about
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  Speaker 2: the women's division is all these six women, eight women,
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  Speaker 2: you know, tag team matches. Let's feature to women for
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  Speaker 2: what they are, good wrestlers on their own at their
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  Speaker 2: own right now. I can understand maybe Jamie Hayterer needs
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  Speaker 2: to be in a tag team match. There's there's a
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  Speaker 2: talk of Ruby Soho coming back because she's training now,
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  Speaker 2: she'll probably have to be in tag team matches. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, you could say the same thing possibly for
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  Speaker 2: Orange Cassidy, maybe Jack Perry, even because we don't know
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  Speaker 2: why he was out there, they said they just in
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  Speaker 2: that creative form that he's not her, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying. So we can ease people back in because
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  Speaker 2: there is depth on both the men's and women's side. Storm,
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  Speaker 2: what are you thinking about this?
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  Speaker 6: I'm really excited for Orange Cassidy to come back. Actually,
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  Speaker 6: I think he'd be fantastic. And he's coming off with
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  Speaker 6: you said he wasn't coming off of an injury.
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  Speaker 2: Right, He's coming off a torn pectoral from what I understand,
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  Speaker 2: that was from.
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  Speaker 6: Like forever ago. And he's been gone for like a
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  Speaker 6: real long time too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, five months it's been since he's had a match,
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  Speaker 2: really really a little a little over five months.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like it's been longer than that. But I'm
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  Speaker 6: excited for him to come back. I'm actually really hoping
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  Speaker 6: that Pequsha is gonna start turning face. Yeah, how's family,
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  Speaker 6: and then we can get kin like straight up in
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  Speaker 6: the front because fans loved him, but they hate Don Kallas.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Well, you know what, Storm, It's interesting you brought
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  Speaker 2: up ta Kesha because we did a poll, not a poll,
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  Speaker 2: we did a discussion topic about this on the aw
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  Speaker 2: Fantom subreddit, and overwhelmingly people wanted Takesha to step up. Mkay.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, Before we started the podcast, we were
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  Speaker 2: talking a little bit about Orange Cassidy. Look, I think
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  Speaker 2: and I said this, Orange Cassidy is a fantastic talent.
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  Speaker 2: He's athletic, he's got charisma, he's got the skill However,
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  Speaker 2: that being said, I was a little down on Orange
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  Speaker 2: Cassidy for quite a while for two reasons. One is
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  Speaker 2: I believe that he's overused. Well, he was overused, and
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  Speaker 2: that's something that I think that, like with Barry said,
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  Speaker 2: aw has depth. They can't rely on one or two wrestlers.
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  Speaker 2: They got to utilize the depth that they have because
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  Speaker 2: if they don't, it just gets stale because you're seeing
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  Speaker 2: the same thing over and over again. The other thing
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  Speaker 2: that I really don't didn't like about Orange Cassidy is
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  Speaker 2: that damn fruit roll up. He can't win matches with
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  Speaker 2: that move, you know, ninety percent of the time and
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  Speaker 2: be interesting. I'm sorry because he gets a snot beat
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  Speaker 2: out of him for fifteen minutes and then roll up
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  Speaker 2: and it's over. He didn't win the match, he got lucky.
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  Speaker 2: I want to see Orange Cassidy win a match, not
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  Speaker 2: squeak by with the win on a match. Does that
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  Speaker 2: make any sense?
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  Speaker 5: That's kind of what money is doing as well right now?
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  Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, you know, but you know, look you've
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  Speaker 2: got also you know, as Barry was saying again about
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  Speaker 2: the depth, Keith Lee may couldn't maybe come back. We
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  Speaker 2: just saw Lucasaurus come back. There's other guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to see Jay White, We're not going
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  Speaker 2: to see Austin or as a cult. I can't remember
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  Speaker 2: which gun has hurt. You know, we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: see them for a while. We're obviously not going to
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  Speaker 2: see Squirre, Strickland and will Osprey. You know.
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  Speaker 1: So who's the new guy they just signed? Kelson? He
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  Speaker 1: just stayed there on Collision.
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  Speaker 2: And that's.
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  Speaker 1: There's a there's a fun one. I get a lot
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  Speaker 1: of I get a lot of jet Speed what's his name,
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Knight. I get a lot of Kevin Knight vibes.
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  Speaker 1: As far as when Kevin Knight came into the men's division,
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  Speaker 1: immediately juiced them up with a performer that can go
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  Speaker 1: out there and really work with any style. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's extremely versatile. They lucked out putting him in a
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  Speaker 1: team with Mike Bailey, and I think that's been fun.
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  Speaker 1: But I get a lot of I get a lot
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  Speaker 1: of those same vibes, and I was totally forgetting about him.
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  Speaker 1: We could think about somebody to step up. I know
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  Speaker 1: he's new, but this is opportunity for new, new fresh
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  Speaker 1: faces to your point, we're getting something interesting. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to perk our interests a little more than somebody who's
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  Speaker 1: just been on the shelves that we've already seen before.
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  Speaker 1: You get behind some new talent juice and put him
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  Speaker 1: in some exciting matches. He's already they already to throw
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen sink to beat him when he was out
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  Speaker 1: there against Ricochet, so they debuted him looking really small.
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  Speaker 1: I would develop that. I would develop that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you mentioned Ricochet Ricochet. A lot of the
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  Speaker 2: people on that aforementioned aw Fan Hubb discussion topic, we're
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  Speaker 2: really pushing brody king. They want to see brody king,
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  Speaker 2: and I can't disagree with that obviously. Bandido, maybe we
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  Speaker 2: see more action in the tag team division on the
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  Speaker 2: men's side. Maybe we see a women's tag team division.
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  Speaker 2: Actually belts come out out of this look you've got
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  Speaker 2: Isila don just came out. You know, maybe she comes
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  Speaker 2: in and she works. You know, you can never have
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  Speaker 2: enough good talent, especially when you know wrestling is one
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  Speaker 2: of those things that injuries happen, and to combat that,
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  Speaker 2: you can give people time off. It would be great
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  Speaker 2: to see a Karoshida come back. It would be great
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  Speaker 2: to see Rijo comeback. Maki Edo was just announced this
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  Speaker 2: morning that her contract with Tokyo Joshi Pro Wrestling is up.
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  Speaker 2: She is a free agent. Come on, guys, maki Edo.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine maki death kill in a w as
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  Speaker 2: a performer. I made a point earlier as like have
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  Speaker 2: Harley Cameron and Machiedo as a team, with Harley Cameron
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  Speaker 2: translating for machi Edo with a puppet, a machi Edo
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  Speaker 2: puppet and frankly just getting everything wrong, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: Machio speaks enough English to say that's not what I said,
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  Speaker 2: you know kind of thing, and just have all these
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  Speaker 2: you know, I want to see stuff like that. Then
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  Speaker 2: you've got the women's division in Dakota Kai. She's available.
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  Speaker 2: Lena Cross, who I thought was spectacular when she was
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  Speaker 2: on what was a collision a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: two or three weeks ago and people were actually calling
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  Speaker 2: for her. And then on the men's side, Look, we
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  Speaker 2: talked about carrying Cross and Michael Loku get get them.
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  Speaker 1: If there's some one out there, Cross is the one
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  Speaker 1: that I'm just like.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of backed off Cross a little bit myself
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  Speaker 4: after his interview with Ariel Howane or whatever his name is.
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  Speaker 4: I think he wants to use what a would use
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  Speaker 4: a W as a springboard to go back to w
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  Speaker 4: W even after he treated him so badly.
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  Speaker 2: He was in character, though. I think you have to
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  Speaker 2: keep in mind that, you know, you look at a
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  Speaker 2: lot of these interviews, especially with Ariel Hawane, because he
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  Speaker 2: famously has people in character. Uh, Mercedes Monete just did
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  Speaker 2: a thing where she had an interview where she said
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't watch a WW and doesn't pay attention to it.
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  Speaker 2: You actually post about Bailey Matches all the time on
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  Speaker 2: what's going on with her friends out at WWE. She's
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  Speaker 2: in character. You have to keep that in mind. Carrying
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  Speaker 2: Cross is going to be in character as well, because
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  Speaker 2: that's his character.
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  Speaker 1: I get that. My hesitation is the track record of
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  Speaker 1: former WWAE people who it's pretty clear that's all they
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  Speaker 1: view is the big time and when they've come into
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  Speaker 1: aw and Cross as a prime example of this, in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, they're not looking to do anything specific there.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to be worrying about who they lose to
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  Speaker 1: so that they can look as good as possible and
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  Speaker 1: ideally get back to the FED. I don't knock them
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  Speaker 1: for that perfectly. Okay, your career objectives are your career objectives.
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  Speaker 1: But if I'm developing a team, and I think you've
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  Speaker 1: seen this without much slower and more selective he's been
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  Speaker 1: on hiring any other WWE detailing or while if you're
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  Speaker 1: building a long term team, you don't want to invest
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  Speaker 1: in people where that risk is there. It's happened too
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  Speaker 1: often so far, and I think he's somebody that needs
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  Speaker 1: to cook for a while before you really take a
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  Speaker 1: look at him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not championing carrying across by any means,
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  Speaker 2: shape or form, and I agree with you. You know, Look,
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  Speaker 2: wrestling is pro wrestling. Wins and losses don't make you
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  Speaker 2: a superstar. What you do with the ring, whether you
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  Speaker 2: win to lose, makes you a superstar. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: you get guys and we've had them in AW that
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  Speaker 2: came from WEWE and are no longer with AW anymore
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  Speaker 2: that you can kind of tell they weren't going to
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  Speaker 2: take a pin from an AAW lifer, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. So you know, I'll leave that out there,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know. Look, when it comes to this
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  Speaker 2: replacing will Osprey and replacing swer Strickland face it that's
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  Speaker 2: not going to happen, Okay, But I do want to
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  Speaker 2: ask everybody a question to address this. Strickland and Osprey
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  Speaker 2: are babyfaces. You know. Jack Perry, for example, that Jess
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  Speaker 2: brought up is not a babyface. You know. Do you think,
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  Speaker 2: like say, Jack Perry came back, do you think that
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  Speaker 2: he would have to become a babyface to be viable
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  Speaker 2: or can we use more heels even it does, it
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  Speaker 2: does not have to be by the way, It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have to be one on one. In other words, we
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  Speaker 2: don't need one person to step up for Osprey and
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  Speaker 2: one person to step up for Strickland. We can use
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  Speaker 2: five people, ten people to step up for a w.
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  Speaker 1: When you guys think about this interject, I want to
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  Speaker 1: point out, I don't think it's a coincidence that aw's
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  Speaker 1: rised this year as coincided with very strong babyfaces emerging
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  Speaker 1: for the first time in a while. Think about that
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  Speaker 1: when we're when we're thinking about this A really good question, but.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think sorry, no, I I was thinking about
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  Speaker 3: that after I said Jack Perry. I think I think
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  Speaker 3: he's a stronger heel. I wouldn't turn him face. Although
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  Speaker 3: now that Lucasaurus is back. I refuse to call him
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  Speaker 3: kill switch. That's really Stupidaurus. I may be an edgy
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  Speaker 3: Jurassic Express reunion, but as for faces, I think you
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  Speaker 3: like mentioned something just in passing a little earlier, Kelson,
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  Speaker 3: it would be great. This is a prime time if
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  Speaker 3: he's ready for Keith Lee to come back, because we've
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  Speaker 3: got all these new people who may not be familiar
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  Speaker 3: with him, and I can't imagine how like how blown
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  Speaker 3: away they they will be when they see him performed,
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  Speaker 3: Like seeing a Keith Lee match for the first time
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  Speaker 3: is just an amazing experience? Has it really is?
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  Speaker 2: And what about Keith Lee if he comes back? You
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  Speaker 2: could have forced Rickland in this hospital room talking to
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  Speaker 2: Keith Lee and Keith Lee could keep Prince Nan irrelevant.
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  Speaker 2: They've worked together before.
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  Speaker 1: Like calling in a favor or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just have you have Prince Nana watch Keith Lee's
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  Speaker 2: back like he watches you know, watches stains back.
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  Speaker 1: So so so book this. So do a segment where
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  Speaker 1: Nana's with Swerve and Nana's worried about being safe backstage
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  Speaker 1: and versus don't worry none, I got you, and you
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  Speaker 1: see him call somebody and he's like, listen, I know
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  Speaker 1: we haven't talked for a while, but I need a
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  Speaker 1: favor and it's personal. And then the next time Nana's
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  Speaker 1: on TV and whoever's after him is after him from
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  Speaker 1: Death Writers or whatever eats music hits. That's who Swerve
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  Speaker 1: called bring out huge pop works. He's paired immediately with
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  Speaker 1: Nana on their ego Kelson, they're off for the race,
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  Speaker 1: and just like it thought.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's interesting, though, Berry, about what we've been
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  Speaker 2: talking about. We've been talking about I personally. You know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I'm off base here, but we've listed men and
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  Speaker 2: women wrestlers on the AW roster, prospective wrestlers on the
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  Speaker 2: AW roster that are trending toward two things. Trending toward
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  Speaker 2: the younger side. We're not talking We didn't mention Christian
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  Speaker 2: Cage or Adam Copeland or FTR or to hurt syndicate,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because these guys are a
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  Speaker 2: little bit older. And we've not only mentioned the younger guys,
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  Speaker 2: but we've also mentioned younger guys who aren't green. In
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  Speaker 2: other words, we're mentioning younger guys that can wrestle. So
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  Speaker 2: my point here is that it goes back to what
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  Speaker 2: you said earlier, Barry, at the beginning of the discussion.
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  Speaker 2: AW has tremendous depth and they can bring more tremendous
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  Speaker 2: depth in and people may argue, people may argue that
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  Speaker 2: AW doesn't need to bring in any more wrestlers. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying taking people from ex wrestlers from WWE here,
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  Speaker 2: but the signing of Ace Austin. He's a good wrestler,
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  Speaker 2: He's a fantastic wrestler. And they kept a young guy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's, you know, not like a he's not
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  Speaker 2: a baby, but he's a younger guy in the Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Knight Mike Bailey range. But they kept him from going
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  Speaker 2: to NXT or even WWE just by signing him. Now
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  Speaker 2: use him and make him a star, and make him
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  Speaker 2: a long term star.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Force management, these are draft picks. You're you're
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  Speaker 1: making draft picks, and you're trying to get in some
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  Speaker 1: of these early and may take them a year or
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  Speaker 1: two to develop, but that's what you're looking at.
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  Speaker 2: You have time to develop them, don't you agree?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. And the other thing you had mentioned earlier,
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  Speaker 1: and I've seen some other folks frustrate the eight man
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  Speaker 1: tags and a lot of the stuff that they've been doing.
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  Speaker 1: I do think it's important to note, you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: only so many segments on TV, and especially if you're
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  Speaker 1: worried that some folks may need to go out for
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  Speaker 1: time off or whatever, and you need to keep divisions
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  Speaker 1: a lot of folks on TV. Those big tag matches,
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  Speaker 1: the party matches they do one or two of a
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: show is a very easy way to do that, and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: you can book multiple storylines in them. The Queen Aminada
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: and Effeck with feud has happened almost exclusively in big
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: old tags. You got to be careful not to overuse them.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: But I don't think it's coincidence that a lot of
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the women we are talking about, we're now more familiar
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: because they're in a lot of those eight man tags
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and those six man tags and stuff. There is a
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: place for them, especially if you're trying to showcase a
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: lot of talent on TV, because you need to get
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: people familiar with them.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no use. Speaking of Queen Amina, I don't know
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: if you guys saw this, but uh, she is stuck
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: in England because somebody had taken her taken her passport,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: not in cafe. From what I understand, you know, n actuality,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: taking her passport and her wallet and her clothes. You know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: they basically they took her back back, so she's until
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: she's she said that she's not going to be on
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Dynamite because she's going to be stuck in England until Thursday,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: maybe longer. I think that they should have a segment
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: where they use this. Look remember when uh when Wardlow
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: had his stuff stolen and they worked it into a
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: into a storyline. They could use them. Why not have
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Deklas sitting on the stairs flipping through you know, passport
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: and say something like that, that's perfect, bitch something, It's perfect.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: You should do.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: It's what I was thinking, So you.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Should have spoken up. Well, look, you know, regardless of
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: who steps up, I have every confidence that somebody will
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: step up. And I really do think it's interesting that,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: for the most part, other than Orange Cassidy, we talked
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: about the younger fresher a w talent. I like it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I really do that suck.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: What happened to Domanana though, I mean like I heard
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: about that, Like her medication was in that bag. That
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: really sucks. Why do people got to like be like that,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: don't wear that bag.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: She's been running into stuff like for the last two days.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I just sat up.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: It was still lawless, Like as a human being, you're
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: not supposed to have skin that good. My wife staw
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: on TV. She's like, my god, her, it's good.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: You would have been devastated, Barry, you would have been devastated.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: On Saturday, they had the Pro Wrestling Eve show that
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: in Queen Amanada, Sky Blue, Julia Hart, Nyla Rose, Congratulations,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Pro Wrestling Eve's new World Champion, Nila Rose, Queen am
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: this whereever they had it, even the announcer. At the
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: very beginning of the show, the ring announcer came out
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: and said, it is freaking hot in here. Queen Amanada
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: came out and I swear to God, within thirty seconds
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: she looked like a puddle. I mean she was. I
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: felt so bad for her because she was absolutely drenched
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: in sweat. I mean all of them were, but because
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Queen Amanada has the darker complexion, it stood out and
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: with her long hair being down and just soaked, I
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: mean you could tell. And I had so much admiration
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: because that match that she was in was not an
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: easy match. And it was a longer physical match, and
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: she made it through. And I can't imagine because they
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: did so much work on the ropes, and those ropes
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: had to be unbelievably difficult to work with.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Just stillthy it was.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: It was it was gross. I mean, it was literally gross.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Let's move on. Interestingly enough, Mercedes Monet got the win
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: at Forbidden Door, and now, as of Wednesday, she is
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: fifty one days away from breaking Jay Cargill's record of
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: five hundred and eight days with the TBS title. Russell
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Dream is fifty three days away. So the questions are,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: do you think Mercedes should lose the TBS title at
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Wrestle Dream or lose it beforehand or even afterward, because
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: just losing it at Wrestle Dream like two days after
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: she breaks Jade Carr Gills run. I don't know about you, guys,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: but in the back of my mind, I think that's
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: kind of obvious, you know. And then finally, finally, who
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: would be your pick to eventually take the title off
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: of Mercedes Monet?
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: I mean, think about it, She's beaten everybody around the
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: world who could take it off of her anyway?
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: That was as you should, I don't know.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: I just it feels weird to me that both the
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: women's title people have I've told it for way too long,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: and it needs to happen soon.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Something needs to change.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you've listened to our podcast before,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I am not a fan of long title reigns. And well,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: you know, Tony Storm's had it, lost it, and had
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: it and lost it. She's had it for quite a while,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: but nowhere near the close to five hundred days now
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: that that Mercedes Monet has had her title, the TBS title,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: not even counting all the other ones from all over
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the world. She's what nine belts Monet now. But do
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: you guys, let's just take this one at a time.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Do you does anybody think that she's going to lose
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: this title before she breaks Jade cargills record?
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: No? No, no, Well.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Do you think that breaking j Cartergill's record is important?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Kind of mean.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead, sorry.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Ahead, you go ahead, Okay.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: So, I don't know.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: I feel like when Jade kind of left, I feel
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: like she may have left like a you know, a
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: bad taste in some of you know, aw fan mouth.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: So I think maybe having Mercedes break that record might
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: be a big thing. You know, Mercedes will probably you know,
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: maybe even snip at Jade a little bit for it.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Who knows.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's what were you going to say.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Jess, No, that that's pretty much what I was going
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: to say to just like get Jade's name out of
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: the aw record books and let's all move on with
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: our lives.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Darry last week I said that, you know, look, when
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: it comes to Jay Cargill's record, I think it's just
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: a number because, let's face it, I mean a lot
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: of people, including me, did not find her wrong with
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: the TBS title impressive at all. As a matter of fact,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I think even though she has the longest title reign
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: of any of the TBS champions. And I have to
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: exclude Willow Nightingale from this because she only had the
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: title for like a couple of weeks. But I think
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: that you know, all the other TBS champions, Mercedes, Julia,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: you can put Chris Stantley obviously, Chris Statlander. I think
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: you can put Willow in there if you really wanted to.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I think that all amount of more impressive run the
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Jay Cargill, I really do.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Jada wasn't a great worker, and we
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: saw in essence a talent that really belonged in an
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: MXT environment developing. And they've continued to work on her
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: in WWE. So compared to what we're used to aw Or,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: her performance is relackluster. I felt she was a fun character.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I thought she was entertaining. But by all means, rewrite
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: your record books. When you have people who have champions
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: this long, accomplish what you need to, because what belts
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: are there for is to make new stars. And so
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: at this point they have established how strong Tony is.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: She is the woman in aw She is the ace
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: of that division without a doubt, and they've established Mercedes
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: is basically unstoppable. The only person who beat her is
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the ace of the division. That's perfection. When you're stacking
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: your number one and number two performers, this is the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: time you started the whole theme to make new stars
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and people to step up. This summer is when both
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: of those belts need to come off, and that starts
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the rain in the mega push for whoever that next
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: person is. But you have to go full steam on that.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: You cannot half asset. You got to strap the rocket
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: to whoever this is and you've got to give them
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: dominant wins over former champs right off the bat to
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: show they belong right now.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Of course, the next part of the question is Mercedes
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Monette will beat Jay Cargill's record two days before Russell Dream,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: so two days later Russell Dream happens. Should Mercedes Bonet
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: drop the TBS title at Russell Dream or do you
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: think that's a little too obvious.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: It's a great question.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Heres like, just write what makes a good story? And
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: if you're trying to accomplish both of these things, and
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: it's a good story and it makes sense to swatch
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the title, who cares if it's obvious, make the story
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the priority. If it's not a good story, I'm with Youkelson,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: then wait, maybe you do. Maybe you build to a
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: super show for TV and that's the main event. You
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: give them a half hour and it pops a huge rating.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: You do it then, you know, in a big mega show.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: But if it's not the right story, to your point, Calson,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: don't do it in a pay per view. Wait for
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: it to make sense, and you should start building that now.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Like with paying Man, we all couldn't wait for it.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Make us can't wait for whoever's going to beat this
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: person make us want to believe.
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: You know, I actually think Shida needs to be the
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: one to be thrown Mercedes Manet. Everybody loves Chidah. She's
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: the ultimate freaking baby face.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I know she was.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: Getting a little dark near the end, but everybody still
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: loves her for that, so it don't matter. But I
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: think she'd be the perfect one to beat her at
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: Russell Dream.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's champion again.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: The only problem with Shida is if Chida takes the
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: title off of Mercedes, Mone or anybody. I mean, let's
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: face it, if they do the women's tag, Chida can win,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: that will she to be around to actually defend the
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: titles and wrestle. You know, the problem Withshida is that
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: she comes and goes too much. They need to walk
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Cheetah down for the long haul. That's my problem with Shida,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: because if she takes the Mercedes, she takes Mercedes's TBS
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: champ chip. She can just get a hold it for
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: two or three weeks and then lose it, possibly right
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: back to Mercedes.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I didn't say you didn't like long rains.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but I want I want a meaningful rain.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't want, you know, a short rain,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: but you.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Know, there's a lot of the issues with Sheeta though visa.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, pul go ahead.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: No, no, go ahead, Barry, because I was asking you
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: a question.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: What is one of the challenges that she's had really
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: over the last two years is just issues renewing her
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: visa Because during COVID she was here for like eighteen
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: months straight. She was the COVID tea. So I mean
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: she's been here for longer term runs.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Well, that's that's the point, is uh. Part of it
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: is the visa. Keep in mind that when she was
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: here for COVID, it was because she couldn't go back.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: To Japan and go back. That's yeah, that's right all right.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Now. When her car she had a signed with a
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: W HARKR. Sheida does a monthly show. I don't know
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: if she's doing anymore, but she did for several years.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: She did a monthly show called Micah. It was like
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: a samurai stage show. It was like a play, you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: and they did different It was performance art. And when
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: she signed with AW it was with the specific clause
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: in it that she could go back to Japan every
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: month to perform in this show. So that's one of
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the reasons why she did go back. But yes, her
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: current issue is her visa. You know, she just can't
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: get She couldn't get back to the United States because
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: of her visa. She allegedly did get back to the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: United States, but apparently she went back to Japan already
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: because she has shows did Japan scheduled. She's an actress
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: and that's what she's gonna She's an actress and a wrestler,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: and she is gonna do both. That's just that's cheating.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: So but one of the things that you said, Barry,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: that I wanted to bring up, and I'm gonna I'm
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: gonna say it, correct me if I'm not getting this right,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: But you said that that, well, this is exactly what
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: just this way I interpret it. Mercedes Monett has nine belts. Okay,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: you said that the belts are what uh make stars.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I think is the way you alluded to. She's got
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: nine belts, she can make a lot of stars. Yep.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I always thought her run was going to be after
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: she loses her first belt. Like the story of Mercedes
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: is week to week scaring her destruction on as the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: ultimate similar to the Bucks, but but supercharged and by
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the end she snaps and she's just a mad woman
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: on revenge and the most violent version of her you've
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: ever seen, because she just goes crazy. That's that's always
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: been my fantasy booking. And along the way any smaller
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: promotions and Nato mean whatever, she makes a bunch of
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: stars man.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean some of the people that she beat,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, like Diana Strong where
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: she won in in Poland. People are people are talking
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: about Diana Strong now they're noticing hers. She's made stars
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: by beating people.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: You know, and when she puts them over, and you
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: have the win against Mercedes Monette like nine belts Monet,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: like that makes people in these indies like that's a
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: huge deal to have her as your champion lineage and
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: for her to put one of your people over at.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Some point, I.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Mean, like you talk about giving back to the business man.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought it was funny though, because, like I
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: said earlier, Nila Rose won the Pro Wrestling of the
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: E World Championship and immediately had an issue with Mercedes
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Monette asking about the color and a belt and all
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: that stuff, seeing you know, alluding to whether the class goes.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Nyla Rose posted a picture of her blockings Mercedes Monet
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: on Twitter over it, you know, like leave me alone
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: kind of thing and just just hysterical stuff.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite right now. Anybody who wins
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: out when she does that, that's a great gag.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman either.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: You know, as you posts the Google the eyes, you
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: know a mode, it is hysterical. So we okay, we're
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: talking about let's just talk specifically about the TBS title.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Hakarashida came up. Is there anybody else that you think
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: could could beat Mercedes Monet or would you like to
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: see beat Mercedes Monet for the title?
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: They could be saving her for this eventual tag division's
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: going to be happening. But I'd say give give meg
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Vana shot. I really like her. I've loved watching her develop.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: He's awesome. I imagine imagine the Megasus with the duel.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: That's that's that's great.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know somebody that I thought of and I
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: thought of this for Mercedes Money, actually thought of this
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: for Tony Storm. sureI why not? Surey? You know it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you who. It can't be. It can't be Athena.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Athena has been kind of rendered a non contender in
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: AW to me, because you can't win the big one
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: in AAW. You know, I don't know the best way
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: to put it. Maybe that maybe maybe that's the story
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: they're going with, is that she's great, but she can't
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: win the big one in AW. Maybe that's the story.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: And so what she eventually does, you know, maybe get
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: away from her minion overlord thing and maybe becomes more
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: of a face than to heal and gets the crowd
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: behind her. Maybe Athena winsbe story she to lose.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, I was going to say, like whatever
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: she like loses, it's always like her arrogance that winds
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: up costing her, Like she totally could have beat Tony,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: like if she wouldn't have like screwed around so much
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: in the beginning.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're picking up what I was going to be
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: putting down there the Hubris she has Kelson to your point,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: she needs to lose to learn that humility, especially her title,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: to realize what she was doing wrong to be that
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: champion and chief her goals. I think that's the path.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I think you guys are right. She needs to be humbled,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: and I don't mean going on a losing streak, but
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: she needs to lose that title, the forever champion. Well,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: how can you be forever champion when every other belt
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: you go for you lose? What kind of a champion
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: is that?
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, Friday night she's defend that belt. Friday night,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: She's defending that title against Mina Shirakawa, who is another
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: one who always loses. She always loses the big one. Yes,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: she's the interim champion, but she didn't beat the champion
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: to become the interim champion. She beat another challenger. The
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: fact of the matter is Mina Shirakawa can't beat a
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: champion and Athena can't beat a champion in aw And
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: we'll see about what happens in the Ring of Honor.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, Mina shirk already lost to the
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Athena and Ring of Honor recently as well.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't remember.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but maybe that's the catalyst for her giving up
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: the Minion. Ways I mean talking about Athena, is she
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: loses on Friday night to Mina Shirakawa, Maybe she says Okay,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I'm no longer to forever champion at Ring of Honor.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I can concentrate on aw now. The only thing is
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: is that I believe right now Athena is at like
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: something like nine and ninety one days as the champion Again,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: are they gonna let her get to a thousand because
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: she won't get to a thousand by Friday night? And
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: is it important? She's already the longest ragining But is
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: that magic number one thousand important? Again? Similar to Mercedes Monet,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I really don't, you know, because
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: you got you got the look. You got two storylines
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: here with Athena and Mercedes Monet both going for a
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: number instead of instead of a defense of a belt,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: They're going for a number instead of a wrestling match.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. And let's make it to
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: where going for numbers is not the best thing to do.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: It's not the smartest thing to do. Frankly, had the
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: both lose.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually don't think it should matter neither, because
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: she's already been champion for so long, Like, why does
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: it even matter if you make it to a thousand?
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: Nobody is going to catch you? For probably like another
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: ten years. Nobody's going to have that title as long
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: as she is going to have that title, So I
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: think they shouldn't even worry about it.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: No, I agree with you. Look you look at Mercedes Monet,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: her entire reign that's going on right now with all
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: these belts. It's all about numbers. There's nothing about challengers.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: It's all about numbers. She's just getting numbers. She's adding,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: adding and adding, it's increasing the numbers. It's to the
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: point where the people that she is winning these belts
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: off of don't matter as much as the number of
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: belt el that she's carrying, or the Royal Guard is
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: carrying whatever.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I think. Uh, you're you're putting down a lot of
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: really good lines for coming up babyface promos against Mercedes,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: like Telson. Like literally the stuff you're laying out, that's
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: promo stuff right there. You put her up against Alice
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Wins and that's the promo winsor needs to cut right there.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: She doesn't care. She doesn't actually care about this. She's
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: just going after numbers. You don't care about the championship.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be a real champ. Like you're hitting all,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: You're hitting all the promo lines here, man, I think.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I think you're on something.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I should be the next, you know, big thing in
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: the aw women's division.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Obviously, give him the book, give them the book Challenger.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my my daughter is in the chat. She kind
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: of liked that. So but anyway, let's move on because
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: you've got a similar situation going on with Tony Storm.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Although Tony Storm, as I said earlier, she wins that
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: she loses, that she wins that she loses it. She's
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: at the time that Mercedes Monet has had the TBS championship.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Tony Storm has lost the belt twice, I believe, once
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: to Mariah may No just once. Right, Yeah, but she
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: has lost it, and frankly, she's had better challengers simply
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: because she's only defending the one title. As Barry alluded
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: to earlier, there's only one title that matters to Tony Storm,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: where the numbers matter to Athena and to Mercedes Monet
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: if you really want to get down to it, Tony
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Storm has beaten Mercedes Monet and Athena in consecutive pay
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: per views, and those are arguably the two top contenders
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: the women's division. Right now, we've already talked about Mercedes Mona.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Who do you think is next for Tony Storm? Has
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: AW kind of backed Tony Storm and the not Tony
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Storm and herself, but the AW Women's Championship into a
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: corner because there's just who's left? Maybe who.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Jamie Hayter, she just came back.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Well that's well and fine, but that's gonna be declan
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Jamie Hayter. I think that's kind of obvious.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Why didn't say it had to happen now?
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm saying that Tony Storm's the women's champion.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: There's another pay per view coming up on September twentieth.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: I mean that's less than a month from now.
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we need a now person, and I honestly can't
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: think of anybody she hasn't already defeated. It have to
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: be somebody new. But then who would it be?
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah? But sort of looking at it like like you
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: were saying, Storm, we need a now person. But that
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: now person is she gonna be actually a contender? Is
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: it just somebody that they're gonna throw at her to
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: get beat at all out? So that there's you know
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, We can't just have somebody. We can't
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: just feed Tony Storm, we can't feed Athena, we can't
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: feed Mercedes Monet. At some point, it's gonna be like
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Jake Cargill all over again. It's gonna be like, Okay,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: this is a sale.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, eventually you have to stop.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I got an idea, so I think you're right Kelson,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: and I think Storm. I think you're right too. I
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: don't think there's enough time to put anybody who're gonna
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: care about for either of those titles into the pay
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: per view. So let's not do a title match. Let's
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: put the baby faces against the heels. Tony ends up
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: teaming with whoever is going to take that belt off.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Mercedes doesn't even have to be the next pay per view,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: but this is the start of that feud to establish them.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: They're going to get the rebel worker with Tony Babyface.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: The heels will be Mercedes and whatever heel is paired
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: up with her that's been a feud with Tony and
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: eventually take the belt. Use this pay per view to
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: start those programs in a tag match, all of the
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: big names together. There's your top two programs to carry
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: you forward. You do the belt switch when it's appropriate
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: TV pay per group who cares to your point? I
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: think that's what you do for this next pay per view,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: because I agree, I don't think there's anybody ready and
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: they're going to rush somebody, and I think it's waste.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: So start the build for those people that are going
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: to take those titles off them now.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Well sure, yeah, you know. The only thing that I
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: could possibly think of for all out, and it's way
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: too soon for all Out. I'm saying this right off
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: the bat, it's way too soon is have Athena versus
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Tony Storm versus Mercedes Mina and the winner gets the
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: other two belts a triple crown. That's the only thing
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I could think of, and then just have that person
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: work horse, and frankly, the only person I think at
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: the work horse it is Athena.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: We got to a step three profit real quick. There,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: what's that I said? We got to a step three
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: profit real quick on that storyline?
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm just saying, and you know, I don't
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: like those kind of matches, but that's really the only
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: thing I can That's the only thing that I can
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: think of, because let's face it again, it's right as
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: we're talking. It's August twenty sixth, all out us on
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: September twentieth. You know that's three weeks away, basically three
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: weeks away, and how are you going to come up
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: with a viable contender unless you go with somebody like
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Shury for one of them. You know, that would make sense.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: You know, I mentioned that with Mercedes Bnet having Surey
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: for one of them, but that's only one of them.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: You've got to have two of them. You know. You
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: can have maybe have a feud with Tony Storm and
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Alex windsor against Athena and Billy Starks. But something's got
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: to happen, happen like this week for that to even
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: be viable. I don't know. It's I'm confused about about what.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I'm sure Tony Kahan does have a thought and plan
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: in mind. I just have no clue what he's thinking.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: You know, it is what it is. Well, let's move
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: on to our favorite part of the show, the Potpourrie,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: where we can bring up a topic, anything that's on
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: your mind, and we'll discuss it or not. We could
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: just bring up a topic and somebody may just say okay,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: but it depends, so it depends on how you say it.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Does anybody? How do you have a potpourria that they
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: want to talk about?
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: I do myself, And it's not aw related. It has
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: to do with something that happened here recently. I believe
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: it's called Knox Pro or Knox something like that. Anyway,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: and it bowls a rampage Jackson's son, who isn't I
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: guess training to be an M and A fighter. Look,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: it's about time I think Swerve said it to start
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: gate keeping wrestling again. This guy had no business in
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: the ring.
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: I don't. I've heard all the details. I've watched a.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Little bit of a video on it, and we need
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: to stop bringing people like him like and like this,
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: and it's dangerous and.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: I hope this guy gets better. To Psycho stew gets
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: gets better.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: I guess from reports he was unconscious from the hit
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: on the on the MEPH and the slam on the ground,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: and this just kept on pounding the way Adam. It
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: took many wrestlers to get them away.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: Uh, we don't. I don't know many M and A fighters.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: They're a handful who actually get the sport. And I
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: don't think that some of these guys do or or
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: even respect it. To be honest with you, but it's
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: time we celebrities need to go. There's several celebrities who
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: have screwed up who need to go, and that's just
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: the way I feel about it.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Well, would you agree though, that some celebrities participating in
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: wrestling are harmless and you know, just fluffy fun.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: Well, jelly roll was fine, but when you have an
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: actual athlete who has an anger problem and who.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: I understand are Yeah, but you said all celebrities need
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: to go. I mean, do you really mean that all
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: celebrities need to go?
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: Not maybe all celebrities, but I think we needed take
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: care of maybe filter out the ones that don't need
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: They have no business in there.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, come on, I mean, Snoop Dog
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: can stay. Honestly, I don't think he's on his best day.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: He's not going to hurt anybody, you know. But you know, I,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: you KNOWJJ, I don't have a problem with.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Him either, Good Old A j SO and Bad Bunny.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: Bad Bunny can stay too. Bad Bunny is great.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't even say Logan Paul on a w W
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: form because that is a that's that's war. Declaration of
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: war right there. So some of them love him. They
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: he you know, they say the argument with Logan Paul
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: is that he can wrestle, He's got the skills, you know.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Others I don't like him because, well, they don't like
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: him because he's an asshole, you know, and that they
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: know that that's one, plain and simple.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: You know, there's that performs that are jerks in real life.
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: And I mean, sure, I think it's the time.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: He has more time and train than everybody else, so
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: he can't, like Kenny Omega said in the past, he
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: couldn't do a g one.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: No right, yeah, I understand that, But I'm saying for
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: what he is, he is, he does have the skills,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: but people don't like him, don't People don't like him
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: because they act like they know him personally. When I'm
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: saying that, I don't mean that I like him. I'm
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: just saying that. You know, Logan Paul could step in
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: my house right now, knock on my door, and I'd
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: open it and he'd say hi, and I'd be like,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: who the hell are you? Because I wouldn't be able
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: to pick him out of a crowd. Better Yet, if
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I was standing face to face with him, you know,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: because I just don't know.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: He's also not dangerous and uh, and he aspects the industry.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of celebrities who just want to get
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: their face out there and and who don't expect the
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: energy that it is and that it's and that it
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: takes talent to be in there and not just swinging
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: away the fences at someone's face and making him choke
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: on blood and stuff.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: That's what happened.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: So what you're saying is logan Paul is safe almost again.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: He's no wristler.
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's no wrestler.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that that guy scares me. Man, he's just
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: crotch level, and I don't I don't trust anything that's
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: crotch level.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: He's a literal child.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: When he's older and he's like chest level. I won't
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: have any problem with her right now. No, there's just
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: too much can go wrong.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: I never heard of them until I saw them on a.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: W I had no idea.
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: AJ wasn't anything. And I'm like, okay, you say, boom,
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: I get it.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's kind of wearing on me with that a
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: little bit.
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: But same.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: But then again, he draws crowds people like him.
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: I don't understand why.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know who they were, Like, who are these guys?
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: And then I had to look him up, But like
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: they got him. I think he's perfect for pre show
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: stuff and that's how he needs to be used. It's
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: just like a little you know, a couple of times
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: a year. The people love him. They put him in
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: safe places. It's always a fun, little goofball thing. But yeah,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: it could grind on me. I'm like the Storm. It
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: could grind on me real quick.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's just like that guy that's gonna be
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: wrestling what's his name, Doogie Howser whatever, his name is
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: one the Golden Globe, Yeah, Dookie Yeah. Yeah, well no,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: but I mean he's harmless. You know, he's not going
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: to Yeah well big Boom, Yeah, is a wrestler that
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: isn't a wrestler anymore. But you know, but even Houser,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: he's he's training, he's doing he's putting in the work.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: But like Logan Paul, he's not out there to kill people,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: you know, So.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Go to work really hard.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, got a lot for wrestling to be
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: in the wrestling ring, to be that's that's ultimately what
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: you gotta do. Anybody else have a pote prie that
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: they'd like to share storm?
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Did you have one? You want to go?
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: This is all like so I'm still kind of getting
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: used to everything.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: I can go, give you a second, and if you come.
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: Up with something you can go after, Yeah, go ahead.
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if anybody has found this person
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: on Blue Sky or not, but I found her, I
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: don't know, probably about two months ago or so. And
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: she's an aw superfan that travels to a bunch of
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: shows and takes a lot of pictures, and her handle
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: on Blue Sky is Monica likes aew we follow her off.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, she probably.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Found her for you retweeting or something at some point.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so she's a really nice account. It's just
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of great pictures she coasts. Occasionally she'll do
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: some stuff outside of wrestling when she's traveling and some
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: other fun stuff, but it's almost always wrestling related content.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: But what's really cool is I asked her what equipment
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: she uses, assuming she has, like, you know, a DSLR
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: with a good lens on it or something, and she
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: just has a Galaxy phone. I don't remember what what
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: model Samsung, but she just uses the ad and she
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: has a couple programs she's very comfortable with and just
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: knows the exposures the camera can do because she's used
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: it for so long. But it's really impressive. She snapped
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of really good seats, I'm sorry, a lot
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: of really good pictures. She's clearly has a lot of
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: good seats and some pretty good zoom capabilities. But you
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: don't follow her check her out. It's a it's a
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: real fun and a real nice account.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's one of the accounts that's always interacting
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: with the aw fanhub account on Blue Sky, which by
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: the way, has forty three hundred followers. Now, so that's
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: pretty impressive for us. But yeah, Mark was great. We
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: are we're growing. So all right, it's time to put
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Storm under pressure. What do you got Storm?
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: Okay, So, did everybody see the thing about jk or today?
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah? God, the guy whose hat? The guy who's hat
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: was literally more popular than the.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah oh, he is such a shud.
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: If you look at all like the links and all
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: the comments all over like Instagram, Facebook, read it. They
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: all are just making fun of Hagar basically saying like
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: you couldn't hack it, so now you're just you know,
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: attacking a w and then FTR immediately comes out with receipts.
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: I was like, dang, they just shut him up right
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: then and there.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just it's like gang warfare, you know, it
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: really is. There just guys like Jake Haeger and stuff
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: that basically are the stupid gang. I don't, for the
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: life of me understand why he would have said what
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: he said.
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: Well the first place, because of Jericho's Friends of America.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: That's my thing.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: They needed bodies when they started and he was available.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: And you know, I do think it's funny when he
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: was like, they only offered me an eighteen month contract
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't worth a lot of money. I was
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: really valuable, and I'm just thinking, if you were really valuable,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: you would have signed a better contract somewhere else. If
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: you were valuable, you would have found work after this
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: current contract somewhere else. You haven't because you you aren't valuable.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Tony actually was providing you at the sympathy contract, hoping
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: maybe you could pull together and keep working. But this
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: is you know, this is what you got out of it.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Man, Well I did. It doesn't take much to entertain me.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: And I do have to admit that the the you know,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: the hat thing did entertain me.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, in some moments, had some funny you get a
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: good row some people.
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah no, but he just fully couldn't get over like
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: he tried. The hat thing went good for a while,
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: but justick like we get it, you love your hat.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Hager was not over the hat was.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: You know, we just said, we just mentioned here's my potpourri.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: We just mentioned Chris Jericho, and there are a lot
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: of people saying that Jericho's days with aw or over a. Look,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: we've had some comments about Chris Jericho here on this
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: podcast saying that, like for me personally, I thought the
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Learning Tree was god awful and then it got better
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: because Big Bill was better. You know, it did put
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Big Bill over, not so much, Brian Keith. It didn't
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: do anything for Chris Jericho. But now they're talking about
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Chris Jericho going to w W W and it does
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: bug me a little bit when I see people saying, good,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Chris Jericho's worthless, blah blah blah. Look, Jericho was the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: king of aw when it started. She was the one
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: guy that you can count on among very few others
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: that could make stars people. Well, no, they can make
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: people watch AW for legitimate wrestling because people knew Chris Jericho.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, some people knew the Young Bucks, some people
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: knew Kenny Omega, etc. Etc. But I would say that
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: most people knew Chris Jericho, and so Chris Jericho. I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: think you have to give Chris Jericho credit for well
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: putting AW on his shoulders very early days. Yeah, he's
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: not the same Jericho now that he was in twenty nineteen,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: but I would guess to say that none of you
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: are the same person you were now in twenty nineteen.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: You know, assuming that everyone here is over seventy years
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: old and gay.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Christ Jericho never meant never restless, there's no AAW today.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, you know, I agree. You know, there's
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of things that go on, and I think
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: it is unfair to label Chris Jericho incorrectly. Sure, he's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: what is he fifty some years old? Now fifty? I
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know, I really don't know. But
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is that when he was
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: in his mid forties, he was killing it. He was
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: killing it. I think we need to take a step
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: back from being horrible IWC internet trolls and just say
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: thank you to Chris Jericho, and whether he goes to
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: w W EE, retires, or even stays with a W
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: it should be thank you. Well.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: But I haven't heard any legit sources saying he's going.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: I've heard body Slam dot Net and some others. But yeah,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: you know, sports Skita is not good.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: That's a terrible source, Melzer said.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Meunzer said, most people he talks you think Chris is
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: going to end up signing with the w W.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: This doesn't solid so it's okay.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there, Look as as I'm saying, is
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: that regardless if Jericho goes elsewhere, stays at a W
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: or just retires, it's still a thank you.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah it is.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Except for the learning truth there, it was just really.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: There were some funny parts of the learning treat when
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: it first started, and then it kind of got old.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you got better when they got darker, when
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: they started being like darker.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Actually I thought the funniest part of the scene was
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: it was actually Brian Keith.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: You respect Jericho.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the funny, Like, you better teach
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: that baby to respect christ Jericho.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the New York Minute.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: It was good. That was one of the best parts
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, they did it too many times. You know,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: they should have been once every three weeks should have
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: been cool, but not once every show kind of thing
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: or once.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: So it makes sense when they were leading up to
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: the Hammerstein shows, but then they kept doing it and
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: it kind of got longer too. But I think we
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: do all agree it did keep Big Bill on TV.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I'm a big proponent of keeping people on TV until
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: they get over. Case and point Harley, he's over. They
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: put him on the UK randomly in a squash match
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: for a reason because they knew he'd get a big pop.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: It is time to get behind Big Bill and.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Don't forget a w in what is it? In the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Is it December? Is going back to the ancestral home
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: of the Bill family, Cardiff, Wales. So I think it's
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: a December. Is that right?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where you do it, then that's where you
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe you put him against Tony Storm
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: and have him win the Women's World Championship. I don't know.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: If we only viewers are dressed every week, he's got
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: to wear like a sheer, like a form fit he
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: has if heels like he has to have like he
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: can't know how you have to go through the trials
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: of what it's like to be a woman like you
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: can't have to deal with ye?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Yes? Is there anybody else that has a potpourric? Go ahead, jess, I.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: You I just wanted to take a moment to talk.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: Well I could actually talk about it for maybe in
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: a whole another hour. Just the absolute batship, bonker sicko delight.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: That was the lights out cage match. That was so
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: much fun.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: I have to rupt you here. Were you disappointed that
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: the lights actually came back on because last week you
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: were just all about the lights being off.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have the benefit of visuals. But I
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: just did the stone cold thing like the laugh glare,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: but also a a WUS finally discovered the paranoia inducing
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: thing that is the classic era n x T. The
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: bumper is a lie. Just what if you just when
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: you think the show is over, No it's not. Something
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: terrible is happening.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah from NXC. I wonder how many people I wonder
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: how many people actually turned the TV off.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: The first time they did it, or the least that
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: I remember them doing. It was Uh, Tomaso Champa's big
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: heel turn on Johnny Gargano, Like they put up the
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: but they put up the bumper and then Tomasso hits
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: Johnny with a chair.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I I honestly thought it just was a production
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: staff because that's totally character Freed.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: That's true too.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, someone's getting fired. Went on the graphics
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: a little early.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this. He just brought up a good point.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: How about the weapons that were used, particularly the gummy bears,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: that was terrifying.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: I think the most terrifying thing about the gummy bears
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: was that will actually ate one after Like it was
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: like sitting sitting under the lights on that sweaty, bloody
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: mat he just no gummy bears.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh will no, Yeah, the gummy bears
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: out when he like his teeth when he got super
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: kicked was I was dying.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: They need to wear or they need to have like
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: remember when the NHL had the glowing hockey pucks. They
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: need to do the glowing hockey pucks thing on Nick
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: and Matt where they just have a glowing thing was
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: saying their name because I have no idea who they are.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: I can never tell them apart I can't.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Yeh, Nick has darker hair. No, Matt does. Matt has
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: darker hair. Nick has lighter hair.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, see, I don't pay attention to hair like that.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: You know, well you should.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Hair is confusing to me. That's why I like Ricochet
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: so much.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Not a hair guy.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not a hair I'm been shaving my head
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: since I was seventeen years old. People has when I
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: get my driver's lights of a hair color? What's your
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: hair color? Clear? I don't know. It's like, oh, yeah,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: you should see some of the razor blades I've gone through.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: But uh, but now I've got it down to with science,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: it's not a big deal. Yeah, So the lights out match,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: the lights out match. My favorite part of that match
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: was Hiroshi Tanahashi climbing up that ladder like he was
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: going to do some and then the other was like, no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: get that. I thought that was.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Let the guy who needs surgery to it.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let the guy, uh you know, protect your knees.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Let the guy with the bad neck.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a funny spot.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, oh I would again. Well, look this
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: is what I thought when they announced this match. I'm like, Okay,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: so you have Hiroshi Tanahashi with no knees, Coda Bushie
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: with no neck, will Osprey with no neck, Darby Allen,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: who could pretty much kill himself doing a stupid move
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: at any second in any match, and and keny Omegho's
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: missing like whatever, sixty four feet of his intestines. I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: don't know, you know, come on, there wasn't a single
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: healthy person really in the in that match. Well, Darby
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Allen was healthy, But Darby Allen's also not the biggest
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: guy in the world. I mean, he was significantly smaller
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: than everybody else. I mean honestly, though, on the other team,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Argue Gave Kid had a leg injury recently, so maybe
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: he was, but he sure didn't move like he had
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: a leg injury recently to me. But yeah, I was
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: kind of shocked that, you know, Team good Guy won.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: So I also thought the death Rider's entrance was so cool,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: especially if the game kid liked like skinning out of
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: like the foreigners and like an animal.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: I like kid, He's fun you know, I was thinking
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: a lot about this match to Coston because I'm like,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: why are they doing this match with so many people injured?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: And they've done Usually when they do these pandemonium MASHs,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, there's going to be crazy spots, And
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: if you really look at what they did most of
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: the spots, they were a lot more selective on the spots.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: It was mostly the healthier people doing them. And Darby
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: is Derby. We saw disgusting stuff and you know, it's
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: not a surprise he took one of the biggest pumps
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: with Gabe Kid. But other than that, I think a
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: lot of it was the plunder ish type of stuff
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: made up for some of the lack of mobility because
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think any of those guys, well maybe not
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: any of it. Some of them could really could have
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: worked a full match, you know, twelve ten, twelve, fifteen
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: minute match, so kind of throwing them into this so
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: they can share the workload and go to a really
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: slow and methodical pace because they didn't really have a
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: lot of super fast exchanges. It was pretty pretty slow match.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe something to do with it, you know, with the injuries,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: is to allow top stars one last time. We're going
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: to make it seem crazy, but only two guys are
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: going to do really all the insane stuff, and everybody
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: else is just going to be illusions so that we
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: can see our friends one more time before they go
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: away for a while.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: You know, well, Ousbury did some beat ship stuff. I'll
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: tell you that match.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: What he does. But I don't think it was more
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: than any other match. It's not a little less because
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: there was not enough time, you know, it was just.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: No, absolutely, Well, does anybody else have a potpourrie that
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: they want to bring up?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, then I guess that'll be the end of the show.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow night, right after Dynamite, which we
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: don't have a close I still I have a check
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: since we've you know, started the podcast tonight, I don't
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: think there's anything anything announced, you know, as far as
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Dynamite goes. So this be interesting, Yeah, I believe so.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: So again I said it before. I think the best
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: thing that they can do is have Decklat sitting on
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: the stairs with Queen Amnada's phone and our past sport
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: or ID and or glasses and her medication said hey,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: you're missing this, And I just think that's that's a
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: great way to do things. Let's go with it. Hen
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: and hey, maybe maybe we get a Wardlow signing tomorrow night.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: We didn't even mention that Wardlow came back after bidden door.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: I'm interested to see what he does for the almost
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: nWo ish big don Kallis family Right now, they're gonna
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: need a bigger people canvas. So all right, So for
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: the aw Fanhubb podcast team, this is Kelson. Good night everybody,