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- 0:02You're listening to the
- 0:03Play Therapy Parenting Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
- 0:09Hi, I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks, The Kid Counselor.
- 0:11This is the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast where
- 0:14I give you insight awareness and
- 0:15enlightenment about your parenting and your relationship with your kids.
- 0:19In today's episode. I'm answering a question from Rosemary in Florida.
- 0:24Shout out to my fellow Floridian.
- 0:26I've actually been getting quite a few emails from Floridians lately. So
- 0:30it's nice to have us dangling down at the bottom of
- 0:32the east coast all listening to play therapy stuff together.
- 0:37So, this is from Rosemary
- 0:39and she is struggling with her daughter who
- 0:44fights hygiene
- 0:46and haven't we all at some point dealt with a child that struggles hygienically.
- 0:52So I think this is a really helpful question.
- 0:54So, Rosemary,
- 0:55thank you so much for writing in and I
- 0:57think this will really be beneficial for everybody.
- 0:59So
- 1:00I'll read parts of the email for you and then I'll dive in.
- 1:04We are struggling at home with my 10 year old daughter.
- 1:07She has always struggled with hygiene and we thought it would improve with age.
- 1:11However, this has been an ongoing issue that we need help with.
- 1:14She doesn't like to shower and when she does, she only uses water.
- 1:17I have to go in and bathe her,
- 1:19which she doesn't like because she's old enough to bathe herself,
- 1:22but she doesn't use soap.
- 1:24She also does not wipe and flush. After using the restroom.
- 1:27We've used reward charts.
- 1:29We remind her every time she leaves the bathroom and we even ask her
- 1:32to come back to the restroom to flush if we go in after her.
- 1:36When we ask her why she does not flush or use soap, she just says, I don't know, I forget
- 1:42we're not sure what to do since she's
- 1:43getting older and we'll be hitting puberty soon.
- 1:46We're at a loss and could really use any guidance you may have.
- 1:50All right, rosemary. Thank you so much for the question.
- 1:52And yes, definitely a struggle for almost all parents at some point in time.
- 1:56So really helpful, we'll dive into that together.
- 1:59The path to calm, confident, and in control parenting starts now.
- 2:10All right. So we know
- 2:12that kids have control over very few things
- 2:15and this is quintessential power and control issue.
- 2:21So when she is on her own in the shower, when she is on her own in the bathroom,
- 2:27no one is there to
- 2:29enforce anything. No one is there to encourage anything.
- 2:33So she has free rein
- 2:35to do whatever she chooses or whatever she chooses not to do.
- 2:39And in this case, she is choosing not to wipe, not to flush, not to use soap.
- 2:44But we have to understand in the greater context,
- 2:47this is a power grab.
- 2:50She's told what to do when to do it, how to do it, why to do it all the time.
- 2:54And kids only have control over a handful of things.
- 2:58I think we've mentioned these before.
- 2:59But you know, we're looking at about five things.
- 3:02So we have eating, sleeping, toileting behavior, and talking.
- 3:07So bathroom power struggles are one of the most common.
- 3:12And so when we see this in light of power and control,
- 3:17it gives us the antidote for that, right? So we have to identify the root issue
- 3:22and then we're able to address it with one of the pillars,
- 3:25one of the reflective responses, we know where to go
- 3:29with our parenting approach based on identifying the root cause.
- 3:33So we know this is a power and control struggle.
- 3:36So that leads us to
- 3:38choice giving.
- 3:40OK. So in this scenario,
- 3:43we need to make it very clear at a neutral time.
- 3:47So not actually when she is getting in the shower or when she gets out of the shower,
- 3:52not when she has gone to the bathroom and not flushed or wiped,
- 3:56it has to be at a completely neutral time.
- 3:59We've talked about this before as well.
- 4:01We set very clear expectations of behavior moving forward.
- 4:06So you can use a fancy phrase, you can use a simple phrase,
- 4:10but the phrase needs to be expressed every time you're about
- 4:13to say something that's really of importance to
- 4:15your child so that they pay attention.
- 4:19We're about to institute a new and significant
- 4:20policy within the confines of this household.
- 4:23That's a really verbose way to say it. But you could also say
- 4:27there's a new rule moving forward and it's really important.
- 4:32But in any scenario, whatever we say,
- 4:34it needs to communicate the severity and the significance
- 4:38of whatever is about to be communicated.
- 4:41So in this scenario, rosemary, I would say, let's say your daughter's name is Bella.
- 4:47So we say
- 4:49Bella
- 4:50moving forward,
- 4:52we're going to have some new rules about showering and going to the bathroom. Ok.
- 4:56So now we've made it very clear, here's where we're going
- 5:00pay attention,
- 5:02there's new expectations unfolding,
- 5:04ok?
- 5:05And then you immediately move to choice giving
- 5:08now because this is an ongoing struggle.
- 5:11We actually are not going to go through the limit setting process
- 5:15because based on your email, you've gone over this ad nauseam with her.
- 5:21So this is not a scenario where you're setting a limit on having to use soap.
- 5:25She already knows it,
- 5:27having to wipe and flush, she already knows it.
- 5:31So therefore,
- 5:32we're going to ultimate choice giving because the pattern has already
- 5:35been established and there's an awareness of refusal to comply.
- 5:41So ultimate choice giving is brought in, let's stop there for a second.
- 5:44We're bringing in choices
- 5:47because choices return power and control to the child.
- 5:51You ultimately have control over the parameters.
- 5:55But the child is given a measure of power and control.
- 5:58So because we know this is a power and control issue,
- 6:01we're going to return some power and control to her with choices.
- 6:05Here's a related aside before I walk you through
- 6:07what the choices actually are going to look like
- 6:10your child's currency matters with ultimate choice giving.
- 6:14And I've talked about this in season one quite a bit.
- 6:16So if you've only started with season two,
- 6:19I encourage you to go back and listen to other choice giving episodes.
- 6:23And when I talk about a child's currency,
- 6:24but I'll really quickly dive into it just for the new listeners, by the way.
- 6:27Welcome. So glad you're here. I know the audience continues to grow.
- 6:31So if you've newly found us, we're really happy to have you and welcome.
- 6:36So a child's currency is what motivates them, what matters to them.
- 6:41It might be books, it might be dessert after dinner,
- 6:44it might be friends, it might be video games, it might be television in the evenings.
- 6:50It, it's going to vary based on the child.
- 6:53But the most important thing to the child
- 6:57is their currency because it's a motivator.
- 7:02So therefore you have to identify what your child's
- 7:05currency is before you go to ultimate choices.
- 7:09So once you've determined I'm going to use
- 7:12reading books because that's my son's currency.
- 7:15So I'm going to use books as, as the example, in this ultimate choice.
- 7:20So you're going to say
- 7:22after you've already
- 7:23figured out it's a power and control
- 7:25issue after you've already decided you're going
- 7:27to give ultimate choices after you've already
- 7:29decided what the child's currency is.
- 7:31And after you've already said we're about to institute a new
- 7:33and significant policy within the confines of this household moving forward,
- 7:37there's going to be new expectations for showering and going to the bathroom.
- 7:41Ok.
- 7:41All of that's what we've talked about,
- 7:43but I had to catch you up because that was kind of a long stretch.
- 7:46Ok. So now we've covered all of those things.
- 7:49Now we're going to get into the ultimate choice.
- 7:51So now you're going to say
- 7:53Bella,
- 7:54when you choose to use soap in the shower,
- 7:58you choose to continue to have the privilege of showering on your own
- 8:02without someone in the shower with you or in the bathroom with you.
- 8:05Ok?
- 8:05You've already mentioned rosemary that she does not
- 8:08like it when you have to bathe her.
- 8:10That's another power and control struggle.
- 8:14So
- 8:15the power and control struggle is she doesn't use soap, but then by not using soap,
- 8:19it adds another level of power and control because she feels completely powerless
- 8:24over the fact that you now are bathing her
- 8:27and at 10 years old, yes, she's right on the verge of puberty.
- 8:31She's right on the verge of needing independence
- 8:33and privacy and certainly not wanting a parent to
- 8:37have to, you know, wash her.
- 8:40So
- 8:41you, when you choose to use soap in the shower,
- 8:45you choose to have the privilege of showering by yourself
- 8:49and me not being in the bathroom with you.
- 8:52If you choose not to use soap in the bathroom,
- 8:55when you shower,
- 8:56you're choosing for me to sit in the bathroom to make sure that you use soap,
- 9:00which do you choose?
- 9:04Ok,
- 9:05so notice that
- 9:07you are no longer saying I'm going to bathe you. If you don't use soap,
- 9:13you've taken yourself out of this because she's never going to learn self control.
- 9:18She's never going to learn self regulation.
- 9:20She's never going to learn to comply with limits
- 9:23if you are constantly stepping in and taking over the situation for her.
- 9:29So notice you've removed yourself from the scenario.
- 9:32So you can choose to shower by yourself independently
- 9:35and privately if you choose to use soap or you
- 9:37can choose for me to sit in the bathroom and
- 9:40make sure that you use soap when you shower,
- 9:42which do you choose?
- 9:45Ok.
- 9:47So that is one way to address this based on the circumstance.
- 9:52If you're going to use a currency,
- 9:55then it would look like this.
- 9:57Bella.
- 9:58If you choose to use soap. When you shower today,
- 10:02you choose to have books tonight before bed.
- 10:05But if you choose not to use soap tonight, when you shower,
- 10:08you choose not to have your books before bed, which do you choose.
- 10:13So in either scenario,
- 10:16you are identifying something that matters to the child,
- 10:19the child's privacy or the child's access to books.
- 10:24And by choosing, not only does she have more power, but she also has buy in.
- 10:31If she chooses to use soap,
- 10:34that's her choice. She's not being forced to.
- 10:37And the exact same scenario would apply for wiping and flushing.
- 10:41So
- 10:42you again, you set all the expectations that we've already discussed.
- 10:46And then you say Bella
- 10:47moving forward,
- 10:49if you choose not to wipe and flush after you use the bathroom,
- 10:54you choose not to have books tonight.
- 10:57But if you choose to wipe and flush after you use the bathroom,
- 11:00you choose to have books, which do you choose
- 11:04every day is a new day
- 11:06that's really, really important.
- 11:09So she's going to shower every day and she's going to use the bathroom every day.
- 11:13So there can't be carryover.
- 11:15There's immediacy to consequences of choices.
- 11:20And if she chooses not to flush and not to wipe and not to use soap and she
- 11:25chooses not to have books or she chooses to have you in there to make sure she uses soap
- 11:30and she laments it and she gets mad and she cries and it's a whole thing. You just say
- 11:35you really wish you would have chosen to use soap.
- 11:38But tomorrow you can choose to use soap and you can choose for me not to be in here.
- 11:43You really wish you would have chosen to wipe and flush.
- 11:45But tomorrow you can choose to wipe and flush and then you choose to have your books.
- 11:50What you're doing is helping her learn what it feels like to have ownership,
- 11:56to have some power
- 11:58and to accept the consequences of her choice.
- 12:01And you're getting rid of the power struggle
- 12:03because it's no longer you hounding her.
- 12:05You nagging her, you reminding her, you bathing her,
- 12:09It's
- 12:10she takes the ownership
- 12:12and she chooses to have what she wants or she chooses to not have what she wants,
- 12:16but it's completely within her control.
- 12:19So Rosemary, I hope that's helpful.
- 12:21I hope that's helpful for all of you know, that you can enlarge that
- 12:25choice giving example to all kinds of consistent problems.
- 12:29It does not have to be hygiene related.
- 12:31It can be anything that your child consistently struggles with.
- 12:35Use the choice giving and the ultimate choice giving process
- 12:38to address that issue with your kids as well.
- 12:41All right. Great to have you all. Thanks for spending time with me this week.
- 12:45Have a lovely weekend. We'll talk again soon. Bye.
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