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Angela Clement · Postcards to the Universe

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa Capria. Do
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Speaker 1: you believe in magic? What if you were told that
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Speaker 1: all you had to do was get a little creative
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Speaker 1: and work a magic spell to bring anything you can
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Speaker 1: imagine into your life. Here on Postcards to the Universe,
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Speaker 1: we will share manifesting tips, postcards, creativity, abundance, and prosperity.
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Speaker 1: Here is your host, Melissa Capria.
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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, and welcome to Postcards to the Universe with
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Speaker 2: Melissa creating the life you crave.
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Speaker 3: It's Wednesday. How are you guys doing?
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Speaker 2: I hope that everybody's doing well. I can't believe we
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Speaker 2: are already in September? Can you believe that the year
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Speaker 2: is almost up?
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Speaker 3: Already?
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Speaker 2: It has been so fast, and I swear I think
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Speaker 2: time is moving faster. And I've heard some I listened
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Speaker 2: to a lot of psychics and readers on YouTube, and
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Speaker 2: a few of them have said that we've definitely sped
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Speaker 2: up and we're like time jumping. So it certainly feels
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Speaker 2: like it today. I have Angela Clement on and she's
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Speaker 2: a certified grief coach and an intuitive healer, and she
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Speaker 2: is just she's going to join me here, just a
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Speaker 2: few minutes. So I had a couple replays going in
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Speaker 2: August because I was working on my second book, doing edits,
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Speaker 2: and they have companion oracle cards along with the book
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Speaker 2: is They're going to have the oracle cards and they're
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Speaker 2: my photographs. So I've been going through the ones I
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Speaker 2: already had. I had enough, but of course, you know
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Speaker 2: when you don't look at something for a while and
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Speaker 2: you go back to it, then I'm like, no, I'm
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Speaker 2: not crazy about this image. So I've been rephotographing and
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Speaker 2: doing all that fun stuff. So I've caught up on
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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff, which is something that I really.
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Speaker 3: Needed to do.
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Speaker 2: And for my regulars who listen to me all the time,
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Speaker 2: thanks so much. I know you know what I do
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Speaker 2: and you.
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Speaker 3: Hear me, and you know the kind of guests that
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Speaker 3: I have.
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Speaker 2: But if you're listening to my show for the first time,
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Speaker 2: I want to say welcome, thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: joining me. I'm a photographer, I'm an author. I have
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Speaker 2: a book called Postcards to the Universe, Harness the Universe's
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Speaker 2: power and manifest your dreams, and I photographed all the
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Speaker 2: manifesting postcards, which are kind of like vision boards for
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Speaker 2: the book, and I shared everybody's stories when they're manifestations
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Speaker 2: showed up in the reality. And now I'm working on
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Speaker 2: my second book, which is a lot about affirmations and
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Speaker 2: using oracle cards and getting messages, and I'm super super
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Speaker 2: excited about it. And just so you know, if you
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Speaker 2: are a newbie listening to me, you can always listen
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Speaker 2: to any show at any time after because we do
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Speaker 2: the shows live, and you can always go back and
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Speaker 2: you'll see who I've had as other guests. And you
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Speaker 2: can listen to any show anytime on Home Times Radio,
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Speaker 2: in the archives, or on postcards to the Universe dot com.
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Speaker 3: I have a podcast.
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Speaker 2: Section where you can listen to all the shows, and
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Speaker 2: of course on both there's descriptions because most of the
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Speaker 2: time you will notice that I like to have guests.
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Speaker 2: I talk to myself all the time, so it's more
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Speaker 2: fun for me to have other people on my show
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Speaker 2: with me so that I can talk to them. From
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Speaker 2: the book, I was doing live readings and I only
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Speaker 2: have a couple left. I haven't been consistent on releasing them,
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Speaker 2: but I am releasing them. I finished recording them. I'll
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Speaker 2: probably be releasing another one tomorrow. I'm almost done. So
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Speaker 2: I've read the whole book, so if you want to
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Speaker 2: check that out, it's on Instagram, TikTok and LinkedIn, and
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Speaker 2: then of course I uploaded on YouTube.
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Speaker 3: So that's just a little bit about me.
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Speaker 2: Now I want to talk to my guest, so let
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Speaker 2: me read to you. Her bio Angela Clement. She is
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Speaker 2: a certified grief coach and intuitive healer. She offers one
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Speaker 2: on one support to those who are ready to release
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Speaker 2: the heavy emotions that come with grief and start to
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Speaker 2: navigate and fully understand the grieving process. Warning your loss
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Speaker 2: is natural, normal, and essential for healing.
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Speaker 3: Grief is individual.
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Speaker 2: Angela can help you understand how to move through the
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Speaker 2: natural grieving process in a way that is uniquely designed
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Speaker 2: for you and your needs. Grief is a pathway to transformation.
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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, she says, her husband of thirty five
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Speaker 2: years died of cancer. In the aftermath, I came to
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Speaker 2: understand grief as a spiritual experience that was perfectly, profoundly
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Speaker 2: and proficiently designed for me to awaken to who I
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Speaker 2: truly am walking the sacred path of bereavement, me dark
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Speaker 2: and lonely, the awaken your soul's Journeys community offers a
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Speaker 2: light in the darkness and provides comfort for those who
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Speaker 2: are heartbroken from loss. Let us support you and unlocking
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Speaker 2: the transformative power of grief and help you find joy
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Speaker 2: and life again. Her book Awakening through Grief, A Journey
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Speaker 2: of Hope for Healing after Loss, provides readers with a
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Speaker 2: roadmap to building a life after the loss of a
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Speaker 2: loved one through story, exercises, and calls to actions, and
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Speaker 2: it's coming out in October of this year, twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 2: so you can find out more about her if you
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Speaker 2: go to Healing Energy dot world. Hi a Angela, thank
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Speaker 2: you so much for being here with me today.
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Speaker 4: Hey, thank you so much for having me. I'm senior.
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Speaker 2: I'm excited to talk to you because, yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 2: grief has definitely been something that I've had to personally
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Speaker 2: deal with in the last two years.
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Speaker 3: My sister passed away in.
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Speaker 2: June of twenty twenty two, and so you know, not
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Speaker 2: only me dealing with it, but my parents. I'm lucky
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Speaker 2: my parents are still with us, so it's been very
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Speaker 2: difficult for them, especially for my mom. My sister was
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Speaker 2: special needs and we had a group home and we
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Speaker 2: were taking care of her in the group home along
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Speaker 2: with nine other women who are special needs.
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Speaker 3: So it's been challenging dealing with grief.
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Speaker 2: So can you share a little bit with us about
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Speaker 2: what made you decide to want to, you know, tackle grief.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know you lost your husband. Was that
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Speaker 2: the big catalyst?
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Speaker 4: Yes? That was it. I had no thoughts about grief
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Speaker 4: at all really before that. I mean, we all go
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Speaker 4: through it, but it seems like society really, unless you
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Speaker 4: have to deal with it, we don't really talk about
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Speaker 4: it that much. We kind of leave each other to
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Speaker 4: figure it out. And so when he passed away, I
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Speaker 4: just found that I was in a place where I
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Speaker 4: didn't know where to turn. I didn't know what to do,
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Speaker 4: and the emotion that comes with it is so overwhelming,
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Speaker 4: and I knew at some point I was going to
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Speaker 4: need some help. So it's been a journey, but yeah,
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Speaker 4: through it, I feel like I'm on a mission to
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Speaker 4: help people understand that there is a way through the
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Speaker 4: grieving and there can be joy and fulfillment in life
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Speaker 4: after a lot. So that's what I do now.
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Speaker 3: That's did you.
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Speaker 2: Happen to notice that there were some people who you
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Speaker 2: thought would be there for you, But weren't our friends
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Speaker 2: disappeared or family or something because they just didn't know
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Speaker 2: how to handle your grief.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, now that happens with everybody. I think it's and
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Speaker 4: it surprises you. You know. Some of the people that
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Speaker 4: you didn't realize would be so supportive are very supportive, right,
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Speaker 4: and then others expect they just can't be. They just
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Speaker 4: they don't know how. And it's yeah, it's tough. It
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Speaker 4: can be really really hard.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was really interesting. And I think
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Speaker 2: it hit my.
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Speaker 3: Mom more than me or my other sister, I think
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Speaker 3: because I don't know.
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Speaker 2: It's like almost like I felt like, and this is
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Speaker 2: what I told her. I feel like that they were
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Speaker 2: so because as a parent, from what I understand, the
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Speaker 2: worst thing that could possibly happen to you is you
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Speaker 2: lose your child, right, because that's not the way the
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Speaker 2: order of things are supposed to happen.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 2: We know this, we parents, grandparents, parents, even spouses or whatever,
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Speaker 2: but not your children.
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Speaker 3: And so it.
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Speaker 2: Almost felt like people couldn't handle it because they couldn't.
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Speaker 3: Thank God forbid, like like almost like you could catch it,
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Speaker 3: you know what I.
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Speaker 2: Mean, Like like it reminds you what could happen to you,
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Speaker 2: you know kind of thing.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and it's so uncomfortable. You know when I
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Speaker 4: think about you know, friends that lost their spouses or
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Speaker 4: people that lost kids. You know, I didn't know what
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Speaker 4: to do. I had no idea. I mean, we we
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Speaker 4: took some food over, you know, and we would maybe
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Speaker 4: fit with them, and then it just seemed like that
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Speaker 4: was all we could do. And now I'm realizing, oh man,
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Speaker 4: you know, there was a whole lot more I could
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Speaker 4: have been doing, but we just don't know, and that
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Speaker 4: we don't know, we can't you know, we can't help it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well that's a good way for me to ask
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Speaker 3: you this question. So what should we do?
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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we can't take away the person's grief,
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Speaker 2: nor should we try, right, but we can sit with people,
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Speaker 2: We could be with people. So what are the things
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Speaker 2: that we should be doing to help somebody who's going
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Speaker 2: through grief?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, and that's just it. It is that simple. You know,
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Speaker 4: you mentioned sitting with people and being there. That really
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Speaker 4: is the whole thing. You know, It's like there's nothing
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Speaker 4: you can say necessarily that's going to make everything better.
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Speaker 4: In fact, you know, that just really causes more pain sometimes,
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Speaker 4: you know, trying to give you know, like they're in
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Speaker 4: a better place, or you know, they're no longer stuffing,
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Speaker 4: you know, those kinds of things that we say to people.
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Speaker 4: They're well meaning, but they don't help, right, And so
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Speaker 4: it's like, in some ways less is more. It's it's
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Speaker 4: sitting with that person. It's letting them know that you're there,
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Speaker 4: that you recognize and acknowledge the fact that they're they're
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Speaker 4: in grief and that there are a lot of emotions
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Speaker 4: coming up. And what I found really helpful was when
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Speaker 4: people would just you know, even send me a text
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Speaker 4: and say, hey, I'm thinking of you today, or you know,
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Speaker 4: remembering those anniversary dates, like the birthdays, the anniversaries. You
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Speaker 4: know that that meant a lot to me because those
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Speaker 4: days can be really hard, and to have people just
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Speaker 4: acknowledge that they know you're going through a difficult time
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Speaker 4: feels very supportive.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, because I know that from our own experiences,
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Speaker 2: just that hey, thinking of you and you know, yeah,
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Speaker 2: and what you said is so true, Like and this
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Speaker 2: was so relevant our situation. So my sister who was
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Speaker 2: special needs, you know, people would say, oh, well, she's
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Speaker 2: in a better place than all this stuff.
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Speaker 5: And.
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Speaker 2: It would infuriate me, and it would infuriate my mom,
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Speaker 2: you know, because there was almost this idea that because
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Speaker 2: she was special needs, like she was suffering in her life.
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Speaker 2: And then at her funeral and her service, I spoke,
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Speaker 2: and my other sister spoke. My parents couldn't speak, and
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Speaker 2: I was like, no, you have it wrong, because my
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Speaker 2: sister who died was the happiest person ever ever in
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Speaker 2: this life and loved everybody unconditionally. Like she was so
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Speaker 2: loved and so loving that she had a better life
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Speaker 2: than almost anybody else. I could, I could say that
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Speaker 2: I know personally, right. So it's like, but they think
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Speaker 2: because she was special needs, they looked at her as disabled,
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Speaker 2: you see, instead of looking at her as this loving
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Speaker 2: spirit who came through in this body for whatever she
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Speaker 2: needed and we all needed.
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Speaker 3: And now she's moving on in her journey.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 2: So it's just amazing that people, you know, that they
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Speaker 2: don't teach us how because, like you said, we're all
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Speaker 2: going to go through grief. I mean, how many people
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Speaker 2: just grieve terribly when they lose a pet, you know,
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Speaker 2: when we just washed that away, Oh it was just
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Speaker 2: a dog, or oh it was just a cat, or are
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Speaker 2: you are you crazy? Like that was a member of
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Speaker 2: my family who I cherished, you know. So I do
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Speaker 2: think we need to learn more about how to talk
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Speaker 2: about grief and openly and process grief.
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Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. And grief is so individual, and so it's
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Speaker 4: it's individual because the connection you have with whatever you've
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Speaker 4: lost is individual. Right, So to judge someone else for
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Speaker 4: grieving something that you you cannot understand, you can never understand,
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Speaker 4: it's really hurtful, and it gets people then clamming up, right,
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Speaker 4: they don't want to talk about it. Then now they're
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Speaker 4: going into themselves and they're not getting the support that
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Speaker 4: they need. And I think that's you know, that's what's
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Speaker 4: caused a lot of the problems in society, is that
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Speaker 4: we aren't able to express the emotions that are coming
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Speaker 4: up because people are, you know, saying, well, you need
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Speaker 4: to get on with it, you need to you know,
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Speaker 4: you've had your time kind of thing, it's time to
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Speaker 4: And then we suppress that, right, and then there's all
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Speaker 4: kinds of repercussions that come from that.
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Speaker 2: Sure, we suppress it to make other people comfortable, right,
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Speaker 2: instead of it is good for us.
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Speaker 3: And isn't it true that.
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Speaker 2: It's something that you like When you lose somebody that
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Speaker 2: you love to death, it's not something that you get over.
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Speaker 2: It's just something you learn to live with. That's what
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Speaker 2: I believe personally, Like, I don't think you ever get
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Speaker 2: over it, you know, Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean your person is always gone, right, so
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Speaker 4: there's always that. But I caution people on saying that
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Speaker 4: you learn to live with it, because it almost has
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Speaker 4: a contentation like you're just going to be living with
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Speaker 4: this sadness for the rest of your life and you'll
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Speaker 4: get used to it, right, right. And I think you know,
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Speaker 4: you can misinterpret that because I know it, right. I
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Speaker 4: misinterpreted it because that was the message that I got
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Speaker 4: from people, was, well, you know, I still miss my
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Speaker 4: husband twenty one years later, I'm still in grief. But
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Speaker 4: I couldn't accept that I did not want to live
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Speaker 4: for twenty years in misery because I felt devastated. And
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Speaker 4: if I I thought, if I'm going to feel like
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Speaker 4: this for the rest of my life, I just don't
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Speaker 4: want to live. I just I don't I understand. So
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Speaker 4: it's kind of letting people know that that initial grief
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Speaker 4: and that depression and that, oh, the dark knight of
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Speaker 4: the soul that comes with that loss isn't something that
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Speaker 4: needs to be there forever. That punch in the gut
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Speaker 4: feeling doesn't need to cloud over all of your joy
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Speaker 4: and all of your happiness for the rest of your life.
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Speaker 4: There's a way to break free of that, and it
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Speaker 4: takes time, and it takes everyone a little bit different time,
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Speaker 4: and everybody has their own unique journey. As you were
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Speaker 4: talking about in the bio, it's just really about feeling
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Speaker 4: into what you need and what you want and then
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Speaker 4: getting the support to get there. That's the whole key.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So how did you start that process? So you
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Speaker 2: lose your husband, like you said, you're devastated and feeling
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Speaker 2: like you didn't even want to.
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Speaker 3: Be here yourself.
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Speaker 2: Like, what was the catalyst that made you say, you
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Speaker 2: know what, I need to do something about this?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, I mean at first, I just went through
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Speaker 4: all the motions of life, and I think that's what
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Speaker 4: everybody else does. She just try to get up a shower,
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Speaker 4: and you eat something and you hope that you know,
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Speaker 4: this pain is going to lessen up. And then after
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Speaker 4: a couple of months, when I realized that it just
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Speaker 4: that wasn't happening. Like if I couldn't hold on to
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Speaker 4: this any longer, I started searching. I started searching the
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Speaker 4: internet for someone who would give me some hope that
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Speaker 4: this was going to get better. And it was through
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Speaker 4: that process that I found a fellow by the name
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Speaker 4: of Sean Doyle who lost his wife suddenly and he
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Speaker 4: wrote this book called The Sun Still Rises. But I
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Speaker 4: had found his article and it gave so much hope
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Speaker 4: to me. It was about how he was able to
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Speaker 4: be okay through the loss, that he was able to
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Speaker 4: build a new life, like a life number two. And
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Speaker 4: there was something about that that just inspired me because
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Speaker 4: it was like, this is a different message, this is
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Speaker 4: not the same message. Yeah and so yeah, so then
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Speaker 4: you start looking for more like that, right, And so
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Speaker 4: I found a quote on Facebook from a lady by
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Speaker 4: the name of Julie Cough and it said people will
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Speaker 4: tell you that you grieve for a lifetime. I choose otherwise.
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Speaker 4: I choose the path from her to hope to healing
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Speaker 4: every day. And when I read that quote, I just
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Speaker 4: knew that I needed to work with her. She is
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Speaker 4: a grief coach, and so I signed up for a session.
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Speaker 4: They do a free She did a free session with
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Speaker 4: me to just kind of get to know and see
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Speaker 4: who you were. A fifth and I remember being terrified
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Speaker 4: about doing that, terrified because you'd have to talk about it, right,
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Speaker 4: and I'm thinking, I don't want to cry in front
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Speaker 4: of this lady. You know, it was be sure. So
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Speaker 4: but that first session, I just knew that this was
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Speaker 4: going to make a difference for me. And so that's
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Speaker 4: what really started to turn things around, along with the
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Speaker 4: energy healing that I was doing at the same time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's great.
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Speaker 2: No, that's good because I noticed what happens, and it happened.
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Speaker 2: It happens a lot with my mom, and it's happened
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Speaker 2: to other people I know have lost people. Is that
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Speaker 2: you almost and it may not even be conscious, Like
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Speaker 2: if you find yourself laughing, right, or.
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Speaker 3: You have a moment of joy, then you feel guilty.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because like, how dare I feel any happiness the
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Speaker 2: person I loved? I?
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Speaker 5: You know?
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Speaker 2: Like, so I imagine that you were probably figuring that
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Speaker 2: out too, right.
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Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely. And every time there was supposed to be
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Speaker 4: a joyous occasion like Christmas, I mean, we want to
20:19
Speaker 4: love Christmas, right, that was no longer happy like it was.
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Speaker 4: It was yeah, so hard, and you just think, well,
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Speaker 4: how can Christmas ever be good again? But yeah, I
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Speaker 4: can't imagine it ever being okay again. So that's when
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Speaker 4: you get into this place where you think, well, why bother?
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Speaker 4: I mean, if it's never going to get better?
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Speaker 6: Right?
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Speaker 4: So right, it's tough.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is tough. And I don't know if
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Speaker 2: you did this, but I've know a lot of people.
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Speaker 2: You you remember the very last moment of the person's life,
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Speaker 2: and you go over that and over that whatever that
21:07
Speaker 2: looked like in your situation. You know, like if it
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Speaker 2: was they died in front of you or you know,
21:12
Speaker 2: at the hospital or whatever. Instead of looking at their
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Speaker 2: whole your whole experience with the person, right, you're focusing
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Speaker 2: on those last moments, and it's like a replay in
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Speaker 2: your head.
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Speaker 3: Did that happen to you?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's traumatic, Yeah, and so your mind keeps
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Speaker 4: going back and trying to figure it out. You know,
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Speaker 4: it's just And what I found really helped me through
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Speaker 4: that was something called eft tapping.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm familiar to theft and I've had other people
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Speaker 2: who do that kind of work on my show before.
21:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm familiar with it.
21:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and that's along with something called soul weaving
21:59
Speaker 4: process that is done by a lady by the name
22:02
Speaker 4: of Mary Seiss. So she would tap, she does the tapping,
22:07
Speaker 4: but she also does this process of where she takes
22:10
Speaker 4: you back to that place and she helps you kind
22:14
Speaker 4: of put your arm around yourself and to like comfort
22:18
Speaker 4: you in that space and give you what you needed
22:23
Speaker 4: in that space. It's just a beautiful process. And I
22:28
Speaker 4: was lucky enough to get to do that with her.
22:31
Speaker 4: It made a huge difference.
22:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I imagine. I imagine that it would.
22:37
Speaker 2: Because it also helps release The tapping also helps release
22:41
Speaker 2: the trapped emotions in our body, you know, because we
22:44
Speaker 2: trap emotions in our body of course, and we're you know,
22:48
Speaker 2: science is catching up where we're actually starting to be
22:50
Speaker 2: able to.
22:50
Speaker 3: See how they correlate.
22:52
Speaker 2: Right, a trauma, It stays in our in our body.
22:55
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
22:57
Speaker 4: Yeah.
22:58
Speaker 2: And is that part of your intuitive healing that you
23:02
Speaker 2: do that kind of work.
23:05
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I've always kind of had a real interest
23:10
Speaker 4: in energy healing. My son was sick when he was
23:12
Speaker 4: a baby, and we took him to an energy healer
23:15
Speaker 4: and she was able to heal him, and ever since then,
23:19
Speaker 4: I've just had this fascination and I worked with his healer.
23:25
Speaker 4: She showed me a few things, and I read a
23:27
Speaker 4: few books, and I'd practiced with family and friends. But
23:30
Speaker 4: when Blaine got sick, I got a lot more serious
23:34
Speaker 4: about it because I really wanted to be able to
23:37
Speaker 4: help him and me through what we were going through.
23:41
Speaker 4: And so I started taking a lot of classes. So
23:45
Speaker 4: I was trained in like the Wonder Method, in reiki,
23:50
Speaker 4: in State of healing, in I've been taking you know,
23:54
Speaker 4: Touch for health, cranial sacral therapy, just whatever.
24:01
Speaker 3: Hands on. Yeah, I've heard of all of those. But
24:05
Speaker 3: the Wonder Method. What's the Wonder Method.
24:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's something that hasn't been well known, but it's
24:13
Speaker 4: a it's a program that was created by Alan Harriet
24:19
Speaker 4: and he teaches the Wonder Method and it's it's surprisingly
24:26
Speaker 4: simple to do. It takes practice, but basically what it
24:31
Speaker 4: is is it's like that feeling of wonder he learned.
24:36
Speaker 4: He teaches you how to come up with that feeling
24:39
Speaker 4: of wonder and breathing through it and it creates a
24:45
Speaker 4: space of expansiveness really and it helps you shift emotions
24:52
Speaker 4: and you know, we kind of keep ourselves in a box.
24:55
Speaker 4: We kind of hold ourselves in a place of comfort,
24:58
Speaker 4: and this sort of helps us expand and relax. And
25:02
Speaker 4: so I took two levels of his course and really
25:07
Speaker 4: enjoyed it, really really enjoyed it. He is able to
25:11
Speaker 4: feel into you and be able to see how you
25:15
Speaker 4: are working with the energy, and so it's very great
25:20
Speaker 4: to have that feedback as you're working. I found that
25:24
Speaker 4: to be really helpful.
25:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of all the others. That's a new one.
25:30
Speaker 2: I haven't heard that. I haven't heard that one before.
25:32
Speaker 2: That sounds very very interesting.
25:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well.
25:37
Speaker 2: I want to talk about, you know, because about your
25:42
Speaker 2: your awaken your awakening through grief. And I think that's
25:47
Speaker 2: really interesting because I don't think a lot of people
25:52
Speaker 2: would think of grief in those terms, right, or looking
25:56
Speaker 2: at grief as a pathway to transformation. And I mean,
26:00
Speaker 2: obviously we know that, you know, when you have a
26:05
Speaker 2: devastating loss, it's going to transform you, right, but we
26:08
Speaker 2: just assume everybody assumes that, Okay, everything kind of goes
26:11
Speaker 2: downhill from there.
26:12
Speaker 3: It's like that doesn't mean that there's going.
26:15
Speaker 2: To be no getting on the other side of it
26:17
Speaker 2: and having the healing and maybe being able to have
26:21
Speaker 2: like that one person you were saying had a second life, right,
26:26
Speaker 2: Like you can have a second life.
26:28
Speaker 3: After a devastating grief.
26:30
Speaker 2: And I imagine some people's experiences with loss are much
26:36
Speaker 2: more traumatic than others. You know, somebody who lost their
26:40
Speaker 2: grandparents who were ninety of old age is going to
26:42
Speaker 2: be very different than somebody who lost their teenager to
26:46
Speaker 2: drunk driving or something. You know, So it's it's grief
26:50
Speaker 2: is grief though, But I want to talk about that.
26:53
Speaker 2: But I just looked at the time, and we're at
26:55
Speaker 2: the halfway mark. So let's take our break now, and
26:58
Speaker 2: then we can you can answer some of those questions
27:01
Speaker 2: for me. All right, guys, stay tuned and we'll be
27:03
Speaker 2: back in just a couple of minutes.
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30:26
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Speaker 2: you say something about you Your book is titled Awakening
30:36
Speaker 2: through Grief, A Journey of Hope for Healing after Loss.
30:40
Speaker 3: So what do you mean by Awakening through Grief?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I as I went through this process of
30:52
Speaker 4: experiencing the emotions, it brings you to a place where
30:57
Speaker 4: you start to question who you are, where you came from,
31:01
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31:06
Speaker 4: takes you to that place of spirituality, whether that be
31:09
Speaker 4: to your religion or to you know, everybody has a
31:13
Speaker 4: wide variety of beliefs, and really what it did for
31:17
Speaker 4: me was it took me to a place where I
31:20
Speaker 4: started to really search for who I truly am and
31:25
Speaker 4: what is my purpose here on this earth. And grief
31:30
Speaker 4: it does that to people. And after interviewing over one
31:35
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty people now that have had all different
31:39
Speaker 4: kinds of grief experience, you know, losing children, losing multiple
31:45
Speaker 4: people in many ways, to suicide, to homicide, to all
31:49
Speaker 4: kinds of things that you couldn't even imagine, all of
31:54
Speaker 4: those people that I interviewed have somehow transformed their lives
31:59
Speaker 4: through that pain and they have created beautiful spaces for
32:06
Speaker 4: others to heal and have found fulfillment and joy through
32:12
Speaker 4: what they're doing. So that's what I'm talking about. I'm
32:16
Speaker 4: talking about going through this process of grief, through the
32:19
Speaker 4: healing process, and then coming out on the other side
32:23
Speaker 4: with more meaning and more purpose than maybe you even
32:27
Speaker 4: had before.
32:29
Speaker 3: Hmmm.
32:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, I imagine anybody listening who's in the depths of
32:35
Speaker 2: it right now are probably saying, you know, how am
32:40
Speaker 2: I going to get myself out of this?
32:41
Speaker 4: Right?
32:42
Speaker 2: And Also, grief doesn't just apply to losing somebody through death.
32:46
Speaker 2: That grief could be a divorce, a grief could be
32:50
Speaker 2: you know, many things, you know, leaving your having to
32:54
Speaker 2: leave your home for whatever reason, a job you love,
32:57
Speaker 2: you know, falling out with friends or family.
33:00
Speaker 5: You know.
33:01
Speaker 3: So there's different there's different ways of grieving.
33:03
Speaker 4: You know.
33:04
Speaker 2: People just always assume it's just a loss right through death.
33:07
Speaker 2: But some of your clients are dealing with maybe grief
33:15
Speaker 2: from a divorce and not necessarily through a death, right Yeah.
33:21
Speaker 4: And I think you know, grief happens to us right away,
33:27
Speaker 4: you know, when we come out of that bomb and
33:30
Speaker 4: we end up in this place where we're cold, and
33:34
Speaker 4: you know, there's a beef for the loss of that space,
33:37
Speaker 4: you know, and and lots of people talk about that
33:39
Speaker 4: being where grief really starts and the whole process I
33:44
Speaker 4: believe was given to us as a healing tool. So
33:47
Speaker 4: it's something that we tend to talk, you know about
33:50
Speaker 4: as a you know, sadness, but it's much more than that.
33:55
Speaker 4: It's it's it's a process that we go through, uh,
33:59
Speaker 4: and natural process that can help us get to the
34:02
Speaker 4: other side if we don't resist it. That's the key
34:06
Speaker 4: is not to resist that process.
34:10
Speaker 3: Not to resist it.
34:11
Speaker 2: So how can we you have something you call hope,
34:15
Speaker 2: heart opening to purpose and expansion. So what would you
34:21
Speaker 2: say would be something that we should be thinking about
34:26
Speaker 2: or doing to be able to get to that point
34:29
Speaker 2: of our having our hearts open, you know and expand
34:33
Speaker 2: after grief.
34:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that was one of the first things that
34:40
Speaker 4: I learned about our energy is when we have a
34:43
Speaker 4: traumatic experience, our heart closes in, yeah, and it's energetically
34:49
Speaker 4: we just power because we can't handle the pain and
34:56
Speaker 4: it's okay, it's okay. That is a mechanism them to
35:00
Speaker 4: keep us safe. And at some point we have to
35:04
Speaker 4: start to kind of unhinge all of the locks that
35:09
Speaker 4: have come down and just open up to the feelings
35:17
Speaker 4: that are going to rise the sadness, the anger, the jealousy,
35:23
Speaker 4: and we don't have to do this all at once.
35:25
Speaker 4: It can be you know, gentle, And this is where
35:29
Speaker 4: I find energy. Healing really helps to release that energy
35:34
Speaker 4: that we've kind of locked up, and as we kind
35:37
Speaker 4: of unfold it and allow it to come through us,
35:42
Speaker 4: that's how we heal. So that's that whole opening. And
35:48
Speaker 4: once we can allow those emotions to come through, we
35:51
Speaker 4: start to see that there is a purpose to life,
35:53
Speaker 4: that there is a way we can expand again, we
35:57
Speaker 4: can find new meanings. And but it's it's not you know,
36:03
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that this is easy. It's not like, yeah,
36:07
Speaker 4: you know, I'm I'm on it. I'm going to get
36:10
Speaker 4: you know, it's a process and for everybody it takes
36:14
Speaker 4: either more or less time. You know, it's just and
36:17
Speaker 4: there's no judgment in that. Ah, it's it's uniquely designed
36:22
Speaker 4: just for us, and so we have to That's the
36:26
Speaker 4: frustrating part, I guess, is that we have to get
36:29
Speaker 4: to and just know that our process is our process,
36:32
Speaker 4: and nobody can tell us how long, you know, what
36:38
Speaker 4: we do necessarily, but I can make all kinds of
36:41
Speaker 4: suggestions as advice that people can take and use. You know,
36:47
Speaker 4: if it feels good, if it resonates with you, then
36:50
Speaker 4: grab it and use it. It's much better than not
36:54
Speaker 4: having anything to go away.
36:56
Speaker 2: Right right.
36:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that's so true. And I am imagine that
37:00
Speaker 3: one of the hardest parts of grief.
37:03
Speaker 2: Is you know, and a lot of people think that
37:08
Speaker 2: that means that the relationship is over right because they're gone, right,
37:12
Speaker 2: so they're not here, But that's not true. Just because
37:17
Speaker 2: they're not here in physical form doesn't mean that the
37:19
Speaker 2: relationship is done and it's gone. So, I know, you
37:24
Speaker 2: talk about maintaining a relationship with loved ones who have
37:28
Speaker 2: passed on, So what would you tell us that how
37:32
Speaker 2: we could do that?
37:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, So often it starts out as you know, just
37:38
Speaker 4: wanting to connect with that person, realizing that maybe there
37:44
Speaker 4: is a possibility that I could and then just taking
37:49
Speaker 4: that step in that direction. And it seems like, you know,
37:52
Speaker 4: maybe at first, if you don't believe in this sort
37:55
Speaker 4: of thing, it might you might feel like you're going crazy.
37:57
Speaker 4: You know. I talk to Blaine all the time. I
38:01
Speaker 4: would at first stand and just talk to his picture
38:05
Speaker 4: on the mantle on the fireplace, and I would just
38:07
Speaker 4: tell him about the day I was having and how
38:10
Speaker 4: awful it was to be here without him, and you know,
38:12
Speaker 4: I had to go and do this today without you.
38:15
Speaker 4: And you know, but I was building that relationship with him.
38:18
Speaker 4: I didn't realize it at the time, but that's a
38:21
Speaker 4: natural way to start. And then I would start to
38:26
Speaker 4: find little synchronicities. You know. For me, it was like
38:31
Speaker 4: the morning dove that would sing outside whenever I was
38:35
Speaker 4: writing a blog post. You know, it seemed like at
38:37
Speaker 4: very strategic times, I would notice this bird. And so people,
38:41
Speaker 4: you know, get feathers or they have dimes or you know,
38:44
Speaker 4: there's all kinds of these things. You start to you
38:47
Speaker 4: start to pay attention to that, and you start to
38:52
Speaker 4: realize that maybe there is more to it than you thought,
38:57
Speaker 4: and that starts to open up the door to more
39:01
Speaker 4: and more. Yeah and so yeah, and it's it's like
39:05
Speaker 4: that energetic connection. You start to feel it. You start
39:09
Speaker 4: to know that they really are there, that they are
39:11
Speaker 4: supporting you, that they just want you to be happy.
39:14
Speaker 4: And then often you know, people will get comfort from
39:17
Speaker 4: also going to a medium, and that's not true, but
39:22
Speaker 4: lots of people do get a lot and hope of
39:25
Speaker 4: that too. Yeah.
39:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, believe me. I know we've gone too many.
39:33
Speaker 2: Yeah for my sister, Oh yeah, my mom, my other
39:36
Speaker 2: sister and I, well, my other sister and I've always
39:39
Speaker 2: loved and gone to psychics and done that stuff. But
39:42
Speaker 2: you know, my mom, I think since she lost her daughter,
39:45
Speaker 2: has opened herself up to it and we've had some
39:48
Speaker 2: amazing experiences. But yeah, it's interesting because my sister, her
39:52
Speaker 2: name is Tony.
39:54
Speaker 3: I see her every morning because.
39:56
Speaker 2: I do a meditation and I do a visualization and
39:59
Speaker 2: when I go my special little magical for us, she's there.
40:03
Speaker 3: So I see her every day. So it is really
40:06
Speaker 3: really helped me because I'm a visual person. I'm a
40:10
Speaker 3: visual artist.
40:10
Speaker 2: I'm a visual anyway, it's easy for me to visualize,
40:14
Speaker 2: and I've created this place in my mind's eye and
40:18
Speaker 2: i really feel connected and I see her and she's
40:22
Speaker 2: there and I feel her, you know.
40:24
Speaker 3: I can feel it.
40:25
Speaker 2: So I've gotten to that point and it's been so
40:28
Speaker 2: amazing for my own healing, you know, in her not
40:33
Speaker 2: being here in physical form, and I, like I said,
40:35
Speaker 2: I feel her. I mean I hold her hand every
40:37
Speaker 2: day and I can feel it. It's really really, really interesting.
40:42
Speaker 2: So I do feel like the relationship is still ongoing,
40:46
Speaker 2: and I imagine that that's very comforting to your Uh
40:52
Speaker 2: what do you call them your clients?
40:54
Speaker 3: I don't know. I never know what to call it.
40:56
Speaker 3: Would they be clients, your people?
41:00
Speaker 4: My community? I guess is what I say?
41:03
Speaker 3: Your community? Yeah?
41:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, for your community. That it's true because if you
41:10
Speaker 2: ask for a sign. Every time I ask Tony for
41:13
Speaker 2: a sign, I get one every time.
41:18
Speaker 4: Yeah.
41:19
Speaker 3: Did you find that with your your best name was
41:21
Speaker 3: Blaine Blaine.
41:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Mine would come more sporadically, and I you know,
41:28
Speaker 4: sometimes I would think, well, if I ask for a
41:30
Speaker 4: sign and he doesn't give me one, I'm going to
41:31
Speaker 4: be disappointed. Though I don't, right, But and I know
41:37
Speaker 4: there's people that have said, you know, I've never gotten
41:40
Speaker 4: a sign, you know, from my loved one, And oh
41:43
Speaker 4: that makes me so sad when I hear that. But
41:48
Speaker 4: I always tell people be patient. It's not like, you know,
41:52
Speaker 4: never going to get there. It's not like that at all.
41:55
Speaker 4: It's sometimes it takes longer, and sometimes we go about
41:59
Speaker 4: it and different ways, and so it's just being really
42:02
Speaker 4: patient with the process. And and sometimes in those cases
42:07
Speaker 4: I do recommend a medium, and I'm really careful about
42:14
Speaker 4: because I know that the medium has to resonate with you.
42:18
Speaker 4: It has to be to be evidential mediums, and so
42:23
Speaker 4: that you know that for sure that is your loved one.
42:27
Speaker 4: And then also it has to be someone that really
42:31
Speaker 4: you can connect with. And so yeah, that's important.
42:37
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree.
42:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody listening to us on this show are are
42:43
Speaker 2: open to all that.
42:44
Speaker 3: That's my audience.
42:45
Speaker 2: So you can you can share anything here about that.
42:49
Speaker 2: That's like, that's my demographic. You know, they go to mediums,
42:53
Speaker 2: psyche gigs, toro readers, you.
42:55
Speaker 3: Know all that stuff.
42:59
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, because like I said, we've had some definitely
43:02
Speaker 2: evidential mediums who have said things that they would never
43:06
Speaker 2: know about her.
43:07
Speaker 3: There's no way, there's just no way. So it and
43:10
Speaker 3: it does.
43:11
Speaker 2: It brings such a sense of comfort because you realize that,
43:16
Speaker 2: you know, and I say this to my mom all
43:18
Speaker 2: the time. Mom, it's only temper. You're going to be
43:20
Speaker 2: with her again. She's already with you, but you'll see
43:22
Speaker 2: her and feel her again, like yeah, you know, she's
43:26
Speaker 2: just right over.
43:27
Speaker 3: There, you know. So it's it is a big process.
43:34
Speaker 2: And what do you think, Uh, what are yours? What
43:38
Speaker 2: is your community telling you are. Some of the most
43:40
Speaker 2: challenging and difficult emotions that come up with the grieving process.
43:47
Speaker 4: Well, guilt and shame are really big. They're really hard
43:52
Speaker 4: to deal with sometimes because we think that maybe we
43:55
Speaker 4: could have done something different, especially in the suicide, or
44:00
Speaker 4: maybe if just there was a different chain of events.
44:02
Speaker 4: I mean, I even went through this too. I was
44:05
Speaker 4: as a healer. Maybe I could have done something for him.
44:07
Speaker 4: Maybe I could have you know, maybe if we wouldn't
44:10
Speaker 4: have done the chemotherapy, he would have lived, you know.
44:12
Speaker 4: And there's all of these things that go through your mind,
44:16
Speaker 4: and so letting go of that is really big. And
44:20
Speaker 4: also forgiveness, you know, because sometimes we don't realize what
44:28
Speaker 4: we hold and and if we've had things that we
44:36
Speaker 4: didn't get to say or regrets about you know, the
44:40
Speaker 4: way things happened, we can hold on to that too,
44:44
Speaker 4: and it can really stall our healing when we do that.
44:48
Speaker 4: So those are big ones. Yeah, and anger too.
44:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's because you're.
44:54
Speaker 2: Going to ask you about the anger, like did you
44:57
Speaker 2: get some You get mad like that they left you,
45:01
Speaker 2: You get mad at them, like how dare you leave me?
45:03
Speaker 4: You know? Yeah, oh yeah, And for the longest time,
45:09
Speaker 4: I mean, angry is one of the things that everybody
45:11
Speaker 4: talked about going through and I wasn't getting angry, and
45:14
Speaker 4: I was like, well, I'm not angry. You know, there
45:20
Speaker 4: was a voidance right to allow that up. And the
45:24
Speaker 4: approach I ended up taking was if I was to
45:27
Speaker 4: be angry, what would I be angry about? And once
45:33
Speaker 4: I allowed myself to make a list of those things,
45:36
Speaker 4: it all started to right because it was like almost
45:40
Speaker 4: like I wouldn't open that door. I wouldn't allow myself
45:43
Speaker 4: to feel that because we're told you shouldn't be angry.
45:46
Speaker 4: It's not right, of course, and.
45:48
Speaker 2: Then you feel guilty and ashamed for being angry at
45:51
Speaker 2: the loved one who passed away. So it's like a cycle,
45:55
Speaker 2: you know, what we do to ourselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
46:00
Speaker 2: that's so interesting. Yeah, that I noticed in doing the forgiveness,
46:07
Speaker 2: Like I had to do that with my sister because
46:11
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, really left and with mom
46:14
Speaker 2: and Dad's still alive, like you know, you know, and
46:18
Speaker 2: all the you know, because she had challenges and all
46:21
Speaker 2: the challenges you had, Like, so I had to forgive
46:24
Speaker 2: myself for getting mad at her for leaving us, you know,
46:29
Speaker 2: and forgive her because her journey is her journey, and
46:34
Speaker 2: and it was very cathartic when I finally did do that,
46:39
Speaker 2: when I released that, you know it is it's very healing.
46:43
Speaker 2: So somebody who's listening to us right now, they're in
46:48
Speaker 2: the midst of the deepest part of their grief.
46:51
Speaker 3: What is something you can offer.
46:53
Speaker 2: Them, some words or some comfort that you can offer
47:00
Speaker 2: for them, just to help them get through a day,
47:01
Speaker 2: because I'm sure it's just one minute, one hour, one
47:05
Speaker 2: day at a time in the very beginning.
47:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely it is. And you know, when you're going
47:15
Speaker 4: through that really hard dark night of the soul and
47:19
Speaker 4: you're questioning everything about yourself and your life, just know
47:26
Speaker 4: that that really is the space of where things could
47:30
Speaker 4: be turning around. So don't give up at that point.
47:36
Speaker 4: Just to know that sometimes we have to get to
47:39
Speaker 4: those deep dark depths before we can start crawling out.
47:43
Speaker 4: It's almost like you know when you jump in the
47:45
Speaker 4: water and you're going down and down and down, and
47:48
Speaker 4: there's force, right, but then at some point, you know,
47:52
Speaker 4: you get to that place where you can start swimming
47:56
Speaker 4: your way back up to the surface. And so I
47:59
Speaker 4: tell people it doesn't have to be like this forever
48:04
Speaker 4: it can turn around, But not to suffer in silence
48:09
Speaker 4: and to think that if you just wait, time will heal,
48:14
Speaker 4: because it's so much more well, it's so difficult and
48:21
Speaker 4: it's so much easier if you have someone to support you,
48:24
Speaker 4: and so look for that support, you know, find someone
48:30
Speaker 4: that can help you through this, and don't do it alone.
48:35
Speaker 4: Just don't.
48:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I imagine now with the Internet, there's
48:40
Speaker 2: so many online communities and grief groups that you can join,
48:45
Speaker 2: right you don't even have to go in person anymore.
48:48
Speaker 2: I mean, no good if it's available to you if
48:50
Speaker 2: you want to, But I'm saying online you could do
48:52
Speaker 2: it from the comfort of your home, you know, or
48:54
Speaker 2: just listening to other people's stories. Sometimes it's very helpful,
48:59
Speaker 2: you know, realizing that you're not the only one in
49:02
Speaker 2: the world going through grief. Was there anything that you
49:06
Speaker 2: did physically that you noticed helped you, like walking in
49:12
Speaker 2: nature or reading a book, or you know, something that
49:18
Speaker 2: just gave you moments of relief?
49:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, definitely walking in nature is huge. Just writing
49:30
Speaker 4: was huge for me, getting my ideas down on paper
49:34
Speaker 4: where I could see them and look at them from
49:36
Speaker 4: a more objective place instead of all muddled in my head.
49:40
Speaker 4: And also there is the daily energy routine that Donna
49:46
Speaker 4: Eden teaches. You can YouTube it, and there's something about
49:52
Speaker 4: that routine that helps you release energy in a really
49:58
Speaker 4: really easy, practical way. And I use that a lot,
50:02
Speaker 4: a lot a lot.
50:05
Speaker 3: With work. So I'll look it up. What's her name.
50:07
Speaker 4: Again, her name is Donna Eden. It's eating energy. Yeah,
50:14
Speaker 4: eating energy.
50:15
Speaker 2: Okay, I look, yeah, I'm curious because I'm not familiar
50:17
Speaker 2: with that her name.
50:18
Speaker 3: So okay.
50:20
Speaker 2: So there's some some form of releasing the battled up
50:23
Speaker 2: energy that was stock you needed to.
50:25
Speaker 4: Do mm hmm. Absolutely. And it's such a simple thing
50:30
Speaker 4: that you can do in like five minutes. You can
50:32
Speaker 4: do it in the morning or before you go to bed,
50:34
Speaker 4: or during the day if you're having a rough time.
50:37
Speaker 4: I found it really helpful. So something I can offer.
50:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and people, do you work with people one
50:46
Speaker 2: on one?
50:46
Speaker 3: How are you? How do you work with your community?
50:50
Speaker 4: I do so. I have a support group that meets
50:53
Speaker 4: every ten days and we meet on doom. It's an
50:56
Speaker 4: excellent group because a lot of the people that have
51:00
Speaker 4: been there have been there with me, you know, the
51:02
Speaker 4: last year and a half. I guess it's just about
51:06
Speaker 4: two years now, and so they've got a lot of
51:10
Speaker 4: wisdom and experience, and so there's this great core group
51:14
Speaker 4: of people in there, and then now we've you know,
51:16
Speaker 4: got the new ones that are coming in and so
51:18
Speaker 4: it's just a really nice place where you can just
51:22
Speaker 4: we just share what we're learning, We share what resources
51:27
Speaker 4: we have been you know, the books we've been reading
51:30
Speaker 4: or the things that have been helping us. It's not
51:33
Speaker 4: a space where we necessarily, you know, sing our woes
51:36
Speaker 4: for the entire time. It's more about, you know, what's
51:41
Speaker 4: helping us get through our grief and how can we
51:45
Speaker 4: listen to each other, acknowledge each other in the space
51:48
Speaker 4: we're in, and then help each other move through the
51:52
Speaker 4: grieving process. And there some of these people are just
51:56
Speaker 4: doing amazing things. So I just love that this.
52:00
Speaker 2: Is your this is your awaken your Soul's Journey group.
52:04
Speaker 3: Is that what it's called?
52:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get And if you go on my website
52:09
Speaker 4: you can sign up for it, and it's it's for
52:13
Speaker 4: anybody and it's free. It's just something that they do.
52:17
Speaker 2: And your website again, let people know your website.
52:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, Healing Energy dot World.
52:23
Speaker 3: Okay, Healing Energy dot World.
52:25
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so anybody who's listening who is struggling with
52:31
Speaker 2: grief and looking for some healing you know, modalities, because
52:34
Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys share a lot.
52:35
Speaker 3: Of healing modalities that are working for people right in
52:38
Speaker 3: the group.
52:39
Speaker 2: And it's private, you know, and all that good stuff,
52:43
Speaker 2: you know, because people, it's good. It's great that you've
52:47
Speaker 2: created that, because a lot of people get so lost
52:51
Speaker 2: and don't know where to go and don't know what
52:54
Speaker 2: to do and just want to bury their head, you know,
52:57
Speaker 2: stay in bed and stay under the covers and not
53:00
Speaker 2: come out from you know, the world. Yeah, so I'm
53:05
Speaker 2: thrilled that that you have that, and the fact that
53:07
Speaker 2: it's free is even better for people.
53:09
Speaker 3: So now share a little bit. We only have a
53:11
Speaker 3: few minutes about your.
53:12
Speaker 2: Book that's coming out in October. Tell us about your book.
53:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, So my book is really about my journey through
53:20
Speaker 4: my grief, and it basically through stories and examples. I
53:28
Speaker 4: share how I was able to move through my grief.
53:32
Speaker 4: I share exercises, journal prompts, different things. Because I was
53:38
Speaker 4: an educator of course, some of the stuff in there,
53:44
Speaker 4: and yeah, it's just it's a very it was a
53:47
Speaker 4: very spiritual journey, and so the book is about how
53:51
Speaker 4: I moved through that experience and how I came to
53:55
Speaker 4: live a life now that I really love and I
53:58
Speaker 4: really enjoy. So hopefully it'll help a lot of people
54:03
Speaker 4: through their grieving process. And yeah, I'm looking forward to
54:08
Speaker 4: getting it out there.
54:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's coming out October. Does it have a
54:12
Speaker 2: specific do you have a day?
54:13
Speaker 4: And I have a book yet, But if people go
54:17
Speaker 4: to my website and they go under the tablets books,
54:21
Speaker 4: they can up there and I am doing a draw
54:27
Speaker 4: so they can sign up to get notified when the
54:29
Speaker 4: book is going to be launched, and I am doing
54:32
Speaker 4: raw or signed copies for anybody who signs up there.
54:36
Speaker 2: So oh, that's that's really not wonderful. So I imagine
54:40
Speaker 2: you'll be able to get it on Amazon and all
54:43
Speaker 2: the places that people like to get their books. Okay,
54:46
Speaker 2: will it be at Barnes and Noble too and there
54:50
Speaker 2: or yell.
54:53
Speaker 3: That's wonderful.
54:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the great thing about books. There's always a
54:58
Speaker 2: book out there that resonate with somebody, right, I love
55:03
Speaker 2: I'm such a reader.
55:04
Speaker 3: I'm such a reader.
55:06
Speaker 2: So it's like whatever I'm looking for, I get so
55:09
Speaker 2: excited that somebody wrote.
55:11
Speaker 3: It right for me.
55:13
Speaker 4: Exactly. Yes, Oh my.
55:16
Speaker 2: God, Well, is there anything you want to leave us
55:19
Speaker 2: with because we're almost out of time before we wrap up.
55:25
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, people, you know, don't give up. There's hope
55:28
Speaker 4: you can move through this. I've got you. And if
55:33
Speaker 4: people are interested in checking out my website, you know,
55:36
Speaker 4: I do angel reading. There's meditations on there, there's all
55:40
Speaker 4: kinds of things that they can use to help them
55:44
Speaker 4: through their process.
55:44
Speaker 2: So well, thank you so much. Angel, It's such a
55:49
Speaker 2: pleasure talking to you.
55:50
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Is a really important.
55:52
Speaker 2: Subject, all right, Everybody you know check her out, reach
55:55
Speaker 2: out to her, especially.
55:57
Speaker 3: If you're going through grieving right now and you need support.
56:00
Speaker 2: Thanks everyone for listening to Postcards to the Universe with
56:03
Speaker 2: Melissa creating the life you crave. And I'm wishing everyone
56:07
Speaker 2: a wonderful week filled with joy, abundance and love.
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Speaker 5: Peace,