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Ep. 4: Intensity Turned Up on Day 7 of Camp | Jags A.M. Podcast · Jags A.M.

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  Speaker 1: Day eight of training camp is getting started right now, Brian, John,
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  Speaker 1: who were you most impressed with since the.
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  Speaker 2: Pads have gone on Tuesday?
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  Speaker 3: What are you saying?
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  Speaker 1: We are you most impressed with since the pads of
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  Speaker 1: Walker and the.
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  Speaker 3: Way that he's played in one or one matchups.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have gone with Walker, but Brian took it,
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  Speaker 4: so I'll go so far with a hesitant understanding and
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  Speaker 4: needs to show more. Uh, calebon Chase Don has looked
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  Speaker 4: awfully good at times.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome into jags Am. It's August third, and we are
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  Speaker 1: in day eight of training camp.
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  Speaker 2: Who's a live look.
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  Speaker 1: They're getting out there, getting stretching, getting going, and we're
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  Speaker 1: got you covered with all of your jags Am news
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  Speaker 1: that you need today. Now we did mention pads went
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday, so things have been a little bit different
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  Speaker 1: this week, and not necessarily players you've been seeing, but
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  Speaker 1: it's a different vibe now right.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like it's officially started.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's true. I think you've got guys that
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  Speaker 3: understand that now they're expected to perform, not that they
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  Speaker 3: weren't before, but the evaluation takes on a different level
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  Speaker 3: here and John, we'll start talking about another week or two,
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  Speaker 3: the reps start becoming more and more precious for the
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  Speaker 3: guys who are on the bottom of the roster because
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  Speaker 3: they become fewer and fewer as we get closer to
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  Speaker 3: the start of the season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, And I thought, I think everybody who
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  Speaker 4: watched it thought that yesterday's practice was a little sloppy.
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  Speaker 4: But Ryan o'haller ran from the Buffalo News he used
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  Speaker 4: to be here with the Floda Times Union kind of
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  Speaker 4: came to me afterward and laughed. He said, how many
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  Speaker 4: times have we seen it where the second day in
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  Speaker 4: pads is sloppy because it's always Yeah, they're getting used
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  Speaker 4: to it again, they've had that one day. You're a
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  Speaker 4: little draggy, So I expect today to be much better.
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  Speaker 1: Kai all right, our big thing number one, and obviously
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  Speaker 1: that the pads are on now. Head coach Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 1: talked to us yesterday, talked to the media, and he
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  Speaker 1: talked about at this point in the training camp he
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  Speaker 1: likes to just get that physicality out there and kind
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  Speaker 1: of set the tone and see what this team will
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  Speaker 1: be going forward.
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  Speaker 5: A camp progresses, right, you want to establish an identity,
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  Speaker 5: you want to you want to have some sort of
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  Speaker 5: physicality about you with the pass rush, and so yesterday
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  Speaker 5: it was just trying to do that, trying to establish
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  Speaker 5: that physicality, trying to establish you know, that sort of
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  Speaker 5: that persona of who who can we be?
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  Speaker 3: I thought that sound by yesterday said everything about how
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  Speaker 3: the league has changed. Right when Doug was a player
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  Speaker 3: in the nineties, there wasn't some sort of physicality that
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  Speaker 3: you were trying to establish. That was what training camp was.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, far be it from me to sound like
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  Speaker 3: the old man in the room, but they used to
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  Speaker 3: practice twice a day in full pads. Topic manus was
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  Speaker 3: out there when there's imagine if you only had one
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  Speaker 3: a day and how well you'd perform. But the reality
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  Speaker 3: of it is is that it was all about physicality.
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  Speaker 3: That's what the football game is about physicality, and it
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  Speaker 3: tells you exactly how a coach has to navigate training
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  Speaker 3: camp with limited hitting to protect his salary cap and
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  Speaker 3: his team going forward. It told to me I just
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  Speaker 3: that was everything.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I am the old man in the room, so
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  Speaker 4: it's not close to the same. And training camp really,
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  Speaker 4: if anybody went to training camp from I started coming
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  Speaker 4: nine five from N ten they would not call what
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  Speaker 4: happens now training camp no, because you go to practice
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  Speaker 4: in the morning and then you're off the field, especially
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  Speaker 4: with the media.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we're at.
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  Speaker 4: One practice that we don't see anything else for the
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  Speaker 4: rest of the day, and he used to be two days.
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  Speaker 4: It's a completely different thing. So it's it's a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of practices strung together, but now that you're off my lawn, Kai,
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  Speaker 4: that's on. The interesting thing about what Doug says is
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  Speaker 4: how much coaches have to have a plan now for
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  Speaker 4: how to get your team physical because there's an acknowledge
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  Speaker 4: around the league. You cannot hit I expect him to
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  Speaker 4: hit hard, mean idea players hitting hard maybe twice sometime
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  Speaker 4: in the next eight practices, but you cannot do that
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  Speaker 4: every day anymore and expect to survive and get your
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  Speaker 4: team to So you have to plan it out and
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  Speaker 4: be very careful of how you're going to be a
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  Speaker 4: physical team. Much different, as you say, Brian, than you
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  Speaker 4: used to be well.
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  Speaker 3: And it kind of ties into my Caldwell from the
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  Speaker 3: day before. The defensive coordinator was asked repeatedly about a
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  Speaker 3: tackling plan and how do you practice tackling. You didn't
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  Speaker 3: even think about it. Back then, you just did it.
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  Speaker 3: That was part of the day. You were in full
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  Speaker 3: pads twice a day, and so tackling wasn't even part
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  Speaker 3: of it. You really have to think it out, and
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  Speaker 3: for all the right reasons. I mean, player safety has
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  Speaker 3: become a huge issue. You're in the hottest part of
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  Speaker 3: the year down here, and you can't afford to replace
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  Speaker 3: guys in the salary cap e were like you could before,
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  Speaker 3: So you got to be smart. It's just a completely
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  Speaker 3: different approach.
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  Speaker 4: Would you rather be a great tackling team, kay, or
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  Speaker 4: have Calvin Ridley and Josh Allen to start week one?
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  Speaker 1: It's a fine line to walk. You want to protect
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  Speaker 1: your players, the talent that they have out there. You
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  Speaker 1: want to have them when the season starts.
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  Speaker 3: The old school coaching, I want both. Why can't I
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  Speaker 3: have both?
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  Speaker 4: Uh? Because now if you do that, you're going to
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  Speaker 4: get your bet fired at the end of the season
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  Speaker 4: for losing players.
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  Speaker 3: And being dumb.
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  Speaker 1: And Doug is not dumb. He's very smart. So it's
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  Speaker 1: a fine line to walk. And he's doing a great job.
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  Speaker 1: But do you want to talk a big thing? Number
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  Speaker 1: two is year two, right, so for everybody in the
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff and a lot of these players dealing with
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  Speaker 1: their system for the second year round. Josh Allen spoke
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  Speaker 1: to us on the first day of pads and he
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  Speaker 1: said he's liking what he's seeing so far in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the game plan and kind of how they're going
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  Speaker 1: to go about the pass rush differently this season.
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  Speaker 6: There's a lot of new calls that I really like.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I want to see them every week because
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  Speaker 6: I think they'll really work for us. But in order
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  Speaker 6: to do that, we have to be successful all.
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  Speaker 3: Here one on them.
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  Speaker 6: So you know, I saw new calls, the new plays
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  Speaker 6: that benefits us. Let's let's take it up alot on
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  Speaker 6: k nots.
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  Speaker 2: Brian.
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  Speaker 1: What do you take out of what he's saying in
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  Speaker 1: terms of how they're going to try to rush a
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  Speaker 1: little bit earlier. I mean, we put so much focus
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  Speaker 1: on the pass rush. That is it simple as that, Well,
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  Speaker 1: just trying to rush earlier in the downs.
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  Speaker 3: It's mixing things up a little bit. Remember, Mike was
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  Speaker 3: his it was the first year defensive coordinator. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he had been a linebacker and a linebacker's coach for
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  Speaker 3: a long time. But when you're actually having to make
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  Speaker 3: the calls and to adjust, And I think that was
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  Speaker 3: the interesting part. We talked about Mike Caldwell's lack of
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  Speaker 3: adjustments at time last year, and he basically said after
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  Speaker 3: the season and before practice the other day that that's
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  Speaker 3: just part of the learning curve for him to be
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  Speaker 3: able to know what his players do well and where
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  Speaker 3: he can make adjustments. He feels much more comfortable in
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  Speaker 3: year two, and so the players do, and now he
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  Speaker 3: knows what Josh Allen likes to do, wants to do,
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  Speaker 3: capable of doing. Will he feel comfortable rushing the passer
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  Speaker 3: on first down really going after him? We'll see, even
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  Speaker 3: that's a quarterback and not a quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to know what they're saying in terms of
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  Speaker 4: how it's going to translate toys sair on the field,
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  Speaker 4: because they're not gonna give away what they're doing, nor
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  Speaker 4: should they. I thought the most interesting about what Mike
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  Speaker 4: Caldwell said about this was how he felt like at
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  Speaker 4: times last year that I don't want to say, micromanage,
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  Speaker 4: but tried to make the perfect call every time. And
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  Speaker 4: it certainly sounded to me like there'll be more instances
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  Speaker 4: of just letting the players play and trust that if
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  Speaker 4: you get them in the right defense, generally speaking, more often,
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  Speaker 4: that there's talent out there to make the plays, and
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  Speaker 4: that you don't necessarily remember he came from a Todd
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  Speaker 4: Bowles system where Todd had had infinite experience and it's
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  Speaker 4: very detailed and it's bringing something new and unique every time. Well,
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  Speaker 4: I expend to keep doing that, but it certainly sounded
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  Speaker 4: to me like he's backing off that a little bit
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  Speaker 4: and saying, keep it simple, go play football.
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  Speaker 3: So think also about all the guys who were together, right, So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Foyer Lucon who was new last year, lining up next
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  Speaker 3: to two young players in Chad Mumma and Devin Lloyd,
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  Speaker 3: and you had a young Trayvon Walker, and you had
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  Speaker 3: fully fought Tukasi in the middle, and you Andre Cisco
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  Speaker 3: had moved into the starting lineup. Everything was new and
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  Speaker 3: they didn't know so new coordinator, new players, new scheme.
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  Speaker 4: Trying to be complex.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, so this year that should all change. So I
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  Speaker 3: think what Josh is really stating is the obvious is, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: we're ready to take that next step and to be
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  Speaker 3: a better football team. Now we've got the communication down
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  Speaker 3: and we understand what the guy next to us is
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  Speaker 3: capable of doing, and we trust him to do his
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  Speaker 3: job so that we can do ours.
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  Speaker 1: You're hoping I'll freeze up a little more creativity, obviously adjustments,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe we'll see something a little bit different. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: what they did, you know, wasn't quite working for him.
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  Speaker 1: So hopefully this year we'll see something a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I thank you because Todd Bowles is super aggressive and
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  Speaker 3: and I think my cold will will now feel comfortable
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  Speaker 3: with what.
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  Speaker 2: He's Scott all right, let's hope.
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  Speaker 1: So our last big thing of the day is not
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  Speaker 1: yet we don't have a SoundBite about it necessarily, but
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  Speaker 1: it's that, you know, he gets so hyped about training
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  Speaker 1: camp coming up, and then we talked a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about it already, but yesterday it was kind of a dud.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't a great practice, right, And it was that first
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  Speaker 1: uh well second practice, the first practice after the first
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  Speaker 1: padded practice, and he kind of saw a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a letdown. And I think it's important for us
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  Speaker 1: to remind people that as excited as we are for
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  Speaker 1: football to come back, this is a grind. It's training camp, right,
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about they're gonna have those you know, three
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  Speaker 1: four hard practices right in a row, coming up with
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  Speaker 1: us in stadium scrimmage on Saturday, and it's just kind
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  Speaker 1: of tempering some expectations a little bit, not to like
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  Speaker 1: get anybody less hype, but just be like, yeah, they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have an off day. Well, bout today is a
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  Speaker 1: big day to see, you know, if they can get
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  Speaker 1: back on track.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe.
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  Speaker 4: Well we're still five weeks away from the regular season,
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  Speaker 4: so I'll clarify I said, I said earlier. I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was a sloppy practice, but I didn't think it
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  Speaker 4: lacked intensity.
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  Speaker 2: I think effort was certainly there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it looked sloppy to us because there
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  Speaker 4: were a lot of balls on the ground. They hadn't
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  Speaker 4: been on the ground yet. But Brian, you wrote about it,
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  Speaker 4: and I did too. The one on one coverage drill
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  Speaker 4: was as intense as I've seen a drill this practice,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, uh, this training camp. And I was struck
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  Speaker 4: in trying to write it later. I was struck by
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  Speaker 4: how to sort of phrase it. Of I didn't think
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  Speaker 4: they were necessarily not improving just because passes were being dropped.
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  Speaker 4: There was really hard work between the corners covering these guys.
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  Speaker 4: Between guys getting open. So I thought, I'll bet if
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  Speaker 4: you asked Doug held say, it was a fine practice
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  Speaker 4: the defense had. This team is not going to drop passes.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Calvin Ridley I think had four drops. Well,
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  Speaker 4: his history shows us that that's not going to be
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  Speaker 4: his norms. I don't worry about that. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: they lost any ground. I don't think you lose grind
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  Speaker 4: at one, but just part of the problem. You will
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  Speaker 4: see efficiency pick back up as guys get more used
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  Speaker 4: to be in past.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to point this out. The first rep
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  Speaker 3: between Calvin Ridley and Tyson Campbell, it was a nasty
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  Speaker 3: little move that Calvin used to get open and it
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  Speaker 3: turned Tyson around and Tyson was really hot with himself
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  Speaker 3: before the second and by the way Calvin dropped the ball.
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  Speaker 3: The second rep, Tshaye Townsend comes over and grabs Tyson,
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  Speaker 3: like I wrote, like a boxer and his manager in
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  Speaker 3: the ring, and across the field here comes Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 3: to do the exact same thing with Calvin Ridley. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there was such a competitiveness to it. And the thing
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  Speaker 3: that I loved, which I thought was really good at practice,
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  Speaker 3: was every other defensive back watched that want to be Tyson.
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  Speaker 3: They wanted their matchup no matter who they were lined
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  Speaker 3: up against with right to be as intense as that.
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  Speaker 3: It sets a tempo and expectation level for how the
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  Speaker 3: defensive backs are going to play.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was an important moment absolutely, and to
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  Speaker 1: see one on one, the best of the best going
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  Speaker 1: against each other, how could you not like improve from
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  Speaker 1: that and enjoy watching it as well. So hopefully the
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  Speaker 1: team takes a lot out of that. Coming up practice
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  Speaker 1: is underway today, we're going to keep an eye on
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  Speaker 1: things and we're going to talk a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: some of the lesser talked about players that are trying
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  Speaker 1: to make this fifty three man roster. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the fifty three because obviously everyone
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  Speaker 1: in training camp wants to make that final roster, and
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  Speaker 1: there are some names that we don't talk about a
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  Speaker 1: ton or maybe just people that are doing really well
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  Speaker 1: in training camp that you didn't necessarily have your eye on. So, Brian,
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  Speaker 1: who did you want to talk about today that you've
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  Speaker 1: either seen out there or needs to have.
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  Speaker 3: A really good training guy that I've seen every day
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  Speaker 3: a young man named Devad Wilson, who is a UCF
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  Speaker 3: undrafted rookie free agent, a cornerback. He started at Georgia
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  Speaker 3: and then transferred to UCF. He's a big guy, so
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  Speaker 3: he's got length. He's six foot, he's one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: ninety pounds, long, arms of big hands. So he made
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  Speaker 3: plays yesterday. I made three pass deflections on Wednesday against
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  Speaker 3: first and second team receivers. He was more than holding
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  Speaker 3: his own both sides of the field, middle of the field,
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  Speaker 3: he was flopping, he was inside. He showed me a
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  Speaker 3: depth of ability and I was really impressed with the kid.
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  Speaker 3: And then start talking about special teams, because a guy
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  Speaker 3: like this, if he's gonna have any shot at the
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  Speaker 3: fifty three, it's gonna have to be a contribute on
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  Speaker 3: special teams. Same thing, he can do a lot of
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  Speaker 3: different things. Gunnar line up inside on coverage teams. He's
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  Speaker 3: an interesting talent. I'm looking forward to the chance to
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  Speaker 3: actually talk to the kid and figure out if he's
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  Speaker 3: got the mental makeup for this game. But it sure
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  Speaker 3: looks like he's a player who's going to be challenging
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  Speaker 3: at the bottom of the roster for one of those spots.
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  Speaker 3: Talented kid in john what's looking like a deep group
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  Speaker 3: of young defensive backs. I know you're not gonna mention him,
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  Speaker 3: so I will Eric Hamlet, the safety from pitt six
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  Speaker 3: or seventh round pick. I forget there were so many
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  Speaker 3: of them. He broke up a couple of passes yesterday
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  Speaker 3: and looked like a guy who was, you know, starting
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  Speaker 3: to get his legs underneath him. So as I watched
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  Speaker 3: you know, Hamlet and Wilson in particular, I said, there
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  Speaker 3: is a group of young defensive backs and that's important.
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  Speaker 3: We said this was a storyline for training camp and
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  Speaker 3: an important one. It looks pretty good right now.
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  Speaker 4: It's deep. I think you still want them to rise
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  Speaker 4: and see somebody who will prove it on the field
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  Speaker 4: that they can't do it. Is that maybe your guy
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  Speaker 4: John Well, probably not in the sense that Brian's talking about.
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  Speaker 4: I went with Antonio Johnson, and people say, well, I've
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  Speaker 4: heard of Antonio Johnson.
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  Speaker 3: He said a couple of really good days.
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  Speaker 4: But remember, it's all about me, and it is.
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  Speaker 3: Before we started the show.
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  Speaker 4: It's all about john My approach though, and anybody who
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  Speaker 4: ever listens to me or bothers to read me when
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  Speaker 4: I expect nothing from rookies, including first round rookies, I
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  Speaker 4: just don't. Typically they need a year to be the
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  Speaker 4: impact guy, you think, and so I don't pay much
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  Speaker 4: attention to him in camp exceptsode. Okay, Well, he's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be around. Antonio Johnson might be an exception, and I
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  Speaker 4: know everybody's excited about him. He's slid in the draft.
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  Speaker 4: Usually those guys who slide in the draft don't quite
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  Speaker 4: work out because you've heard of them, but there's a
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  Speaker 4: reason they don't get drafted.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Well, all of a sudden you start watching him in practice,
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  Speaker 4: and he makes a play every day every day. We
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  Speaker 4: talked this morning, special teams. He clearly is excelling in
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  Speaker 4: that area.
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  Speaker 1: Make the team sometimes at the end of a roscie.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah he'll make the team, but it sounds like he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be a special team start.
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  Speaker 3: He's gonna have a rule.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know that he's going to be the nickel
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: guy that everybody wants him to be this year. Fans
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: as me all the time, he's gonna be the nickel
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: And talking to Jeff Logham on the field yesterday, we're
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: talking about different guys, and he said, you know, just
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: don't quite see him being able to cover in that
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: nickel spot the way you have to. But as a
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: future safety, Oh yeah, all of a sudden, and the
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: future could be late this year. Yeah, all of a sudden,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: You've got another guy who you believe can be a
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: really good position player for you to build as you
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: go forward and to help Salary Cavey. He's everything that
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: you think you want in a developmental guy. News flash.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: I'm excited about a rookie.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Hey kid. I made a conservation about him earlier this week.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: He was covering in one on ones Jamal agnew that's
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: tough for a rookie, but he stayed close enough that
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: when CJ. Bethler just tried to drop the ball high
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: and into his hands in the end zone, that he
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: went up and high pointed the ball and got it away.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: It was a tremendous athletic play. And I wrote that
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: day this kid's going to have a future, and the
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: future could be this year. I really think that he's
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: going to work his way into Mike Coldwell's scheme somehow,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: some way. There's no doubt you have your eyes on
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: a rookie and are interested in him because he's making
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: you beat that.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not a matter of when, but how quickly with him.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: It really feels like from what we've seen so far,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: at least the person I picked is not a young player.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: In fact, it's fully fought to CAUSSI who came here
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: on that three year deal, paid him a bit of money,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: underperformed last year. I think fair to say a lot
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: get a caph injury that I think, Yeah, he definitely,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: you know, was lingered. I was hurt by that, and
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: then also a new system as well, everybody was dealing with.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: You know, he's a new player to the team.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: But Doug doesn't name check a ton of people, and
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: he's brought him up at least two or three separate
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: times since camp has begun about being impressed with his
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: effort out there, what he's been able to do. And
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: if your head coach is seeing you with all that's
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: going on and saying how much he's expecting out of
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: you in the second year in a system. I think
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: there's a little bit of pressure on him, but he's
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: rising up to that from what we've seen so far.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Well, If he's good Brian and Kot, Yes, then all
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, you're really good on the interior of
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: the defense without needing to help in the interior Devon, Hamilton, Foyer, Fightacosi.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you've got three guys where you're
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: not trying to pinch down, you're not trying to always
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: help there. That should help what everybody's concerned about, which
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: is the pass rush. And then all of a sudden,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: you're really good against the run, which usually teams that
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: are good against the run get better against the pass
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: rush because they're in better pass rushing situations. So he's
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: really important. I admit I was one of those people
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: last year that maybe had written them off a little
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: bit as Okay, he's gonna be okay, but not gonna
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: be an impact guy because he didn't really see it
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: last year. If he's that, then all of a sudden,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: this defense gets better fast.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: You saw it early in the preseason opener against Cleveland
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: first series, Roy Robertson Harris, Devon Hamilton and fully fought
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Ducossi dominated. Remember that's a powerful running game in Cleveland.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Even if they didn't have their stars in there, those
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: three guys dominated and fully left that game with a
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: calf injury, didn't play again in the preseason, was questionable
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: for most of the month of September every single you
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: know Wednesday injury report, and then he started to get
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: into the flow in October. I'm not making ex uses
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: for him. I think he's got a lot of ability,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: and if he stays healthy, I think we'll have a
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: chance to see what John just talked about.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Well, sometimes, guy, you know, sometimes teams in a sense
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: do a player a disservice. And I'm not saying it
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: it's malicious or that it shouldn't be done. But when
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: you don't talk about injuries, which football teams hate to do,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: they do, then all of a sudden, fans and even
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: media think, well, this guy is not playing very well.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I think Brandon Sheriff fell victim of this last year
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: as well. I think both of those guys, Sheriff and
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Podocasi could you know, quote surprise Jaguar or as followers
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: this year by being really good, because I think both
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: of them played through things last year. They really held
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: them back.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll have to remain to be seen, but
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: he could be a linchpant. If he can get that together,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: it could help the rest of the defense come together
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: as well. All right, stay with us. Coming up, John's
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: gonna answer some of our questions with the ozone mail
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: bag and we'll be right here in the Hundai studios
• 20:19
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• 20:43
  Speaker 1: now that we are checking out on training camp right now,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: they're getting doing some drills right now. We're I think
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: is a longer practice today as well. I know yesterday
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: went closer to two plus hours.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: It looks like this is gonna be right at two
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: if I'm reading the schedule right.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: All right, so another long one for them. We'll see
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: how it goes. And you're going to answer our questions
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: from the readers because you're so wise and we always
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: like when you can impart some wisdom.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: We'll see what the questions, what she wanted from you
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: that she's buttering you up that way. She has a
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: good eye for talent.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Ord.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Her first question is from Chris. He says, what happens
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: when you add an elite receiver to a top ten offense?
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Asking for a friend, Well, everything, they're all better. Everything
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: is good.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: There's really three things on this. I think one is
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: you get the plays that you get from the guy,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: which sounds sort of self evident. But you get special
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: that maybe you wouldn't have gotten if somebody normal had
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: been there. I would expect Calvin Ridley, who expect to
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: be the one, obviously once a month at least, and
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: anything about that. That's every four games. It could be
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: a big difference to make some kind of play where
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: you go, whoa, I haven't seen that around here in
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: a long time. We'll think about what that does. It
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: gives you seven points in that game, probably big difference
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: in the NFL, so I think it gives you that.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: It also forces defenses to account for them, which obviously
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: makes everybody else better, which is a real thing. But
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: the biggest thing I think a top ten elite guy
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: gives you is for the quarterback. You know how a
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: defense has to play a top ten guy, so it
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: means that you can throw to him when he is open,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: and you know when he has doubled that you have
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: easy reads for the rest. So I think it gives
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: the quarterback a much clearer idea of what he's going
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: to do on each play, which for a young guy,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: and Trevor's going to be great, but he's still young,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: having a comfort when you're back in the pocket can
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: be everything. So I think he's going to help immeasurably,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: and just intuitively on third and six. Having a guy
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: where you know he's gonna be and you go back
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: there and you're under a blitz and you just throw it.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: That's very that's grade school analysis, but I think just
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: instinctively that's going to help him.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: For a technicals perpective perspective, he gives you spacing, which
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: is how modern offenses are constructed. They're trying to get
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: their playmakers in open space in one on one matchups
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: and let their athleticism take over. That's what he gives you,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: not just for himself, right, but when you've got him,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: as John alluded to, and the coverage is rule, then
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: they're spacing for Evan Ingram's a Jones Christian Kirk Traves
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Etiana to the backfield. He allows you to space a
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: defense out and create one on one matchups.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: And very quickly, just thinking about what we saw yes
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: day in the field, how hard Tyson Campbell had.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: To work to cover him for hard?
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine having to do the whole game exactly?
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: So it gives you that, it gives you this feeling
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: of he's coming at me every you know, everybody on
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: the defense. We have to worry about this guy all
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: the time, a little bit like when the Jags were
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: trying to play the Chiefs last year with Kelsey, a
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: guy you've got to worry about or you are going
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: to lose.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: And that's a great analogy because Tyreek Hill was the
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: ultimate spacer. You were so concerned about where he was
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: that Travis Kelcey had no problem finding his room in
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: the field. Same thing with all the other receivers they've
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: had there. That's what Ridley gives you.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: All Right, let's get some more advice from John while
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: we can. We've got a question from Steven Nashville. He said,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: last year, the Jaguars claimed five players off waivers on
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: cutdown Day. Is it possible that the players for all
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: fifty three of the final roster spots are currently on
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: this team.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: You know, the question veers in the right way, meaning
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: there's gonna be less angst at cutdown day for this team,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: and I think you will see less bottom of the
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: roster churn. I don't think it's realistic to think all
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: fifty three are here because usually during that cut down
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: you're gonna lose something. You're gonna want some special teams
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: guy you've seen, so maybe one, but I don't. Clearly
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: the roster is better, and these coaches know more about
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: these guys they've brought that guys they I won't be
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: as many, but it won't be zero.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: This roster is as good as it's been in a
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: long time. I would think if there was a shot
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: ever to get all fifty three, this is the year.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: You know we were talking earlier about all the young
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: defensive backs. I mean those are guys who from a
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: special team's perspective, these guys are going to build around.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I'll throw it out there, I say, they don't go
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: roll roster trolling unless there's this high profile pass rusher
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: that everybody wants to get their hands on. I say,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: the fifty three or here for the first time.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Maybe in franchise, always that Tim taste and the GM
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: or a scout. There's always some guy out there, and
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I liked Tim a year ago, so maybe. But yeah,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: I think there's a chance.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: There's always a chance, by the way, that might only
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: be one week, right, it might be. I think there's
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: also something we said. I think this roster in certain
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: position groups too, there might be a lot of people
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: from this team that don't make the roster here that
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: may end up on a roster somewhere else.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Especially on the O line. I think the O line
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: is deep with guys who are going to go play
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: somewhere else.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: It may not be the best offensive line in football,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: but it might be the deepest group of offensive lineman.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: You go look at other training camp rosters and find
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: me ten guys that you can plug and play, that
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: can go from left to right, inside, outside like this group.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I had one coach that I was talking to the
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: other day said, it's rare that you've got guys like that.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: There may be a lot of other teams that have
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: superstar players that this team may lack, but one to
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: ten this might be the deepest group in the league.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Our last question is also from Steve. He's writing in
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and he says, when Antonio Johnson was drafted, there was
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: talk of him being a slot cornerback. I feel like
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of experiences needed for that position.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't worry about his experience in that and
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: I sort of left this out of we talkedut earlier
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: with him. I don't think it's experienced it's going to
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: hurt Antonio's chances to play. I just don't know if
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: he's a slot corner in that sense that people think.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: You know, if you look at him and Trey Herndon,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Trey hearn is a cornerback, and I think it's it's
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: harder than people think to go from safety and then
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: go play the guys that you would be covering in
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: the slot. As a quote, nickel corner is the reason
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: guys play different positions in his place. So experience wise,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: if a guy can play, you can play, and you
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: throw him out there. But I don't think it'll be
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: experienced as much as maybe the skill set doesn't quite
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: match up with what people think.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: You know, fifteen sixteen years ago, we had a cornerback
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: group here with Rasheen Mathis and Brian Williams, and we
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: had a nickel corner named Terry Cousin who they drafted,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: didn't draft. They signed him specifically to deal with the
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Colts and the threats that the Colts preceived. And Terry
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: was an excellent, maybe the best nickel corner we've ever
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: had here in Jacksonville. And I asked him once, what
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: does it take. What's the difference? He said, you have
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: to have a mindset of being comfortable in the middle
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: of the field at all times because it's much more congested. True,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: you're on an island outside right where you're going to
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: be embarrassed at times by the way this thing goes
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: and you have to forget and move on. But in
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: the middle of the field, there's so much happening. You
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: either are comfortable with it or you're not. And if
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Antonio Johnson has it become comfortable with it by this point,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: he might not ever get comfortable.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: I think he can be comfortable in there. I just
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he's that pure cover guy in
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: the NFL listen cornerback experience to play a nickel corner,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: it seems to me would matter. I could be dead wrong.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen it on the field yet. It's just
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: sort of what I would I would expect.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: There's a big difference between being the nickel corner and
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: being a.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Safety, and his role has yet to be defined, so
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: we will see going forward where he ends up playing.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: All right, say well us, we'll talk about what we've
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: got coming up the rest of the week. Who's talking
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: today and what you have to look forward to. Jags fans,
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• 28:55
  Speaker 1: is back, came back on Tuesday, We've got the stadium
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: scrimmage on Saturday. And Calvin Ridley speaking after practice today,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: what are you guys working on, what are you looking
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: forward to?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: What are you expecting over the weekend.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I'm starting to get ready for next Saturday's broadcast in Dallas,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: my first game, our first preseason game, right, which means
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I'm spending a lot of time with the second and
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: third teams, not as much with the starters because they're
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: not going to play as much. And you really have
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: to know these guys, so really digging in on the backups.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: I'm loving for to Calvin talking to it. I always
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: enjoy the confidence he brings. Interesting early in camp and
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: talking to Josh Allen about Calvin when he called them
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: a dog and said, look, this guy's the real deal.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Josh was watching Calvin's first press conference back in the
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: middle of OTAs and Josh wasn't here, and he said,
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: I loved his attitude. It spoke to what I was
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: wanting to do. He's a guy that you wouldn't think
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: necessarily think of as a leader, but I think in
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: the locker room he is a you know, because he
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: just got here, but I think he I think he
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: can set the tone for all I thinks his locker
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: room in terms of his confidence.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: He's a natural leader. He's the guy that people just
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: want to follow because they want to be around him.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: And multiple players we've heard from so far to comment
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: on how he practices making them want to practice like that.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think in that way, so and every defensive
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: back who lines up against him. Practice is really hard.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: You have to she want to get embarrassed.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Well, and lots of good guys have been already in camp.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, We'll keep an eye on everything. We'll
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: be back with you guys on Monday. As always, we
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: appreciate you and we'll see soon.