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Defining a Program · Boundary Corner Podcast

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The legend himself is stepping on with us again.
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We got Dwight Vic, On tonight, how you feeling tally or
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feeling? Pretty good man.
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You know, that's family, man. Y'all calling the white.
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I call him Uncle. We're going to bring him in
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here. He going to give us some
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insight. We will have a good time.
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It's gonna be a good night. I'm already feeling it.
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I know the juices flowing over here.
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I know the juices flowing throughout the twitterverse.
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Oh yeah. I got my drink ready.
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We'll talk about that later on. Let's go.
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Let's wait. Yes, we do.
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He is Always a pleasure to have on this program.
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Everyone's favorite hokey, I feel like all-big East team.
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Captain offensive guard. He is From The Trenches and this
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is an offensive lineman podcast, everybody knows that up and
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down. It's great to have him back.
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This is now the fourth time he is becoming the leading guest on
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this show. Ladies and gentlemen, Dwight
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Vic. What's up, what's up?
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What's good, what's good? I get me in there.
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Yeah, that's happening. A menace craving on the field.
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Number one in your heart, I appreciate the love, man.
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Hey look, man. Um, I get invited to be on a lot
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of stuff man, but anytime be hits me up and it dims is like,
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yo, you want to jump on them? Like yeah, I'll reschedule what
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I got, man. I got a lot to do.
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I'm like you tightly. I got kids wife businesses but I
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mean, yeah, I'm happy. He that going, bro.
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Like I love talking about my favorite University and school
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and sports and just vibing and providing Insight man, you know.
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So I'm happy to be back on, bro. Definitely, definitely, always
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welcome with us, for sure. Always welcome.
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We always appreciate your insights, your thoughts.
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You have so many good things to talk about, man.
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Every time salute to the big bro, Vic as right from Brian
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cobs and we've got a lot to unload tonight, man.
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I mean a lot has changed. I mean last time you were on
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with this was before the season, we've heard you in the Twitter
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spaces, we argue on Victory Life, the vix 757 podcast, but
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before we get into That I want to talk a little Hoops.
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I saw your son and his high school had a damn good season
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man. How did that feels a dad seeing
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all that hard work be all for Miss year?
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Number one, I appreciate you asking that because I've been a
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little bit quieter last, couple of months, is not as talkative,
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and I got three great kids. But like my oldest daughter is
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doing the damn thing at ODU as a freshman, my youngest daughter.
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Who's he Here in her room, you know, getting ready to go to bed
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and she's a seventh-grader, she kills it on the track.
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But, you know, my son's a Isaiah over the last two years has
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really taken off man and it's just phenomenal to see him.
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He plays for a phenomenal coach. When the best coaches in the
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state Sherman Rivers, he's got a top-notch staff Patriot as the
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last seven years have been one of the best teams in the DMV and
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if you know about the DMV, that's DC Maryland, Northern
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Virginia. This is the mecca of basketball
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when it comes to high school and for him to be shining and the
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way he you know, he had a very good year last year.
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Excuse me first, she has started, he plays the five but
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it's really, he's not a five, but over the last two years,
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he's grown to be 66. So he can stretch the court, he
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plays the five. I'm making three hit threes, he
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can dunk. He can I think the biggest thing
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I love about his game is that he's coachable.
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He can defend and He's got schools checking form hasn't
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gotten that first off of. Yeah.
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But I noticed during the Summers coming, I mean there was a
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stretch in the season where he had like he got MVP, they played
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on NBC against Largo, he got player the game, MVP with 21
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points, 6 boards, four assists, 2 Steals and against
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Battlefield, their big rival, the week before that he had 21
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points, he got played a game, got played a game in eastern
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regional, I mean, the Regional Championship 21 points him boys.
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Yeah, The game, we got him VP, so he plays for a great team.
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And, you know, Boston College is showing interest Longwood
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Radford Mount st. Mary's, I don't, I don't really
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know, like, you know, with recruiting is fluid especially
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with the transfer portal and you never know how they feel about
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you. But I know the right schools
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going to take notice and, you know, I'm just trying to be a
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father to him and, and also enjoy it.
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So, I'm Less time, blessed. And he's, you know, people say
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man, he, I'll say this real quick, my wife was all met and
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track and I'm not ashamed to tell anybody.
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He gets his length and height from p.m. 64 65, but he gets his
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athleticism from his mom. I'm a good athlete, my God.
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But like this, he gets his athleticism from Shanice Carter
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Vic. She was a hell of Ashley
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herself. I'm not that Egotistical what I
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want. Shot her out and you know it's
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just a blessing us. I'm a family man.
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I've never been ashamed of that. You know, you are.
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I love my children and my son makes me proud even though I'm
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not going to tell y'all no lies. Raising kids is another job.
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I mean, it's, it's always always like, it's always something, you
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know, you learn it. You know, you got to learn when,
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to back off when the push, when the hold them accountable.
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When they listen, you also guys know, I'm a licensed therapist,
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so So I spend my day working with teens and families.
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I had a call right before we jump doing with a crisis.
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I had to kind of help out in Vienna with a family man.
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So I did a kid my life to helping others and empowering
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others, but it is a blessing to see my children's growing and
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Shining man. So I appreciate that question,
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man. Yeah, definitely definitely,
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absolutely. And it's good man to hear the
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daughters-- doing well done today.
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Do OT you, I'm sure she got some rub on you early in the season.
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It's good to hear yourself. Seventh grader in middle school.
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I'm sorry. I got to be real.
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I know she got on you that game. She did and I love it and I love
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to hear your seventh graders out there.
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Running track having good. It's good to hear all the kids
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are doing good man. Who wants, who wants to pitch
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the next question to mr. Vic.
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Sally, I'll let you ride. So, you know, we all know about
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the, the Vic 757 podcast, that that you got going on.
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We see the victory life. We see the owner and founder of
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Victory Life under your name there.
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I guess it says, when the next question we were going to ask
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was a when you coming back with you, guess you got on Deck.
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So when you, when is your next show and who you got coming, you
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know. Mike and I last year, it was
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another great year, we would do it all year, but I mean, the
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great thing about it is we got boundary your show, we got Dom
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V, you got other Governor, great podcast out there.
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So Mike and I are both very busy.
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I mean you talking about like he is still an icon.
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So our podcast Vic 757 show talking all things Tech and
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seasonal. So I just actually text Mike
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today I say cuz you coming To the spring game.
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He said, yeah, you come because I said, well, absolutely.
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So speaking of kids, we Goin kid less.
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So that means I can I get to know no-ho-ho-ho so I was I was
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going to be excited about that until I started looking up
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young, Vic's, basketball stats and stuff.
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We need to get him up there. I gotta we gotta get him to take
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so I can get some so I can meet him and get a, get a signature
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already, man. Yeah, it autograph already from
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him. You know, man.
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Yeah, you some of my son, right? I'm talking about your son, your
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first. He likes to take.
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I mean, I'm a huge might young guy.
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No, they didn't have the season. They thought they were going to
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have man, but, you know, I'm he plays.
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My son is actually right now in Maryland.
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Coming back from Prague, he plays for DC from nice to coach
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him. I coached him for five years and
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he's actually now playing last year and this year playing for
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DC Premiere. And they play on the Under
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Armour circuit if she was circuit.
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And it's a lot of college coaches at that circus.
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You have the E YB L Nike you have a deed as and you have
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Under Armour. So I mean, we were talking the
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other day he likes to take but I mean he's just like in whatever
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School shows in the most loved. I mean obviously our family grew
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up Hokies so you know it's crazy because he's been around
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greatness his whole life from Mike to tie rod, to Greg Stroman
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to Timmy said, he said train with Timmy said, oh and Greg
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strowman when he was in Middle School him and my oldest
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daughter, you know, he was Now Ricky Slade who went to Penn
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State and then older you. So for him, you know, he went to
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the football camps with Roddy White and DeSean Jackson and you
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know, it was catching a ball so he's not overwhelmed by
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greatness. And I mean, I think if checkable
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pulled the trigger I mean they got a lot of guys coming in
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already, he's a 2024. So he's got one more year, it
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would be like great, I mean I would be nostalgic, but I've
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learned in life, not to force it because even when I chose tech
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tech was not Virginia Tech it. It is now.
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So I mean I was getting recruit about Florida UVA and Boston
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College and hp's. I was getting recruited by a lot
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of schools and tested. Murdered a was the dream off of,
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right? Well, it ain't Notre, Dame was a
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dream offer. I know, I know my tech fans
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frown when I say UVA Just Gonna Stand in that time UVA, Shawn
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Moore, Terry Kirby Herman Moore, they were doing the damn thing
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and I was really feeling UVA. But Notre Dame man.
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Like that was my school Tony right?
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You know, that is, you know, rocket, the rocket rocket rocket
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on there. The rocket be somebody in the 40
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win church shoes, man. You know I'm saying like he had
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a race one time. He had on like, you know, the
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Stacy Adams and he smokes somebody.
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So yeah, man, so at the end of the day, man, you know, is they
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ends up going there? It'll be a good, but I'm just
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praying for health Focus. Yeah, and locked it, and yeah.
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Then we're going back to real quick.
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The wrap up with me and Mike I just want to say men like I
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don't know. If everybody knows the whole
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story behind the Vic. 757 show already, had Victory Life.
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Legacy Spotlight in this show, I do with Danny notes.
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All right? And then I do a weekly radio
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segment and I jump on with you guys.
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So I will Embrace any. Meshed in twitterverse and
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running my mouth, Mike does his stuff with Fox and all of that,
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but he came to me and was like, Hey, cuz I want to help check
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out. It was his idea.
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And I came up with the name and he came up with the tagline and
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I chemistry is always been like that and then it's just been
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great. So the next guest we're going to
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try to get antoniou banks on and my man I forgot the DVDs name
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and I want to say rolling my minor.
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Oh the road scholar guy from here.
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Yes you no no no no, no minor from Tech.
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The Deep ball rolling. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, it's all good. It's all good.
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So yeah, that's the plan but I mean you guys know trying to get
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gas this crazy sometimes man cuz you know, you know, not even
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just the older heads but like, even the Young Dudes, man.
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It's tough because I mean, my guys billion them sons of
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Saturday Grayson and were like, yo, they were trying to get me
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and Michael and I was like not just my schedule, Mike man like
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he is he flies and travels and he's everywhere but it's so
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funny because He is a tech fan. Like, he'll text me or call me
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during the game. I'm, it was one game.
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This was, I think it was. When Brown my sister was there,
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we were playing pit and he was like, Hey, cuz man, like what we
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doing out here, dog? What is it was like, what do
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these plays be running? Man?
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And I was like, you know, it's, you know, he was like, why we
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passed and so much, man? Like, we got a runner.
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He's it's so funny because you say, Mike Vick.
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But he's no different from the four of us.
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He is a fan. He has Insight.
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He has suggestions. And, you know, he's like us,
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bro, you know, and I'm sure he gets passionate.
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Be like, what the hell? What the hell is going on?
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We do the hell is going on? Oh yeah.
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Brick wall. Yeah though he he is very
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different from telling ya know, I definitely understand what
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you're saying. Yeah, I understand.
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Yeah, it is good to hear you say that stuff too.
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Because a lot of fans that aren't close to somebody like a
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Mike vehicle. The white Vic think that all
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these guys don't they don't watch the games, they don't pay
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attention, they don't want to go back, they don't give back, you
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know, that people don't know, you know, they only know what
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they may get a snippet of on 24/7 or something.
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They don't know the real Also it's good to hear you say, stuff
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like that and Kurt and be. I'ma tell y'all some man from
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Jimmy Williams to DJ Parker to the guys from the 80s.
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I'm kind of like that, that guy that links everybody up, man.
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Let me tell y'all, man, Todd, Washington, it don't matter,
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man. People when you when you played
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it at University, Tony Kennedy all these guys man Vaughn
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Hebron, they care about Tech football and ain't nobody really
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feeling now. We've been a feeling great
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before now with prior, there's a lot of optimism and hope and
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feeling much better. But before it was about to be,
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it was about to be like Varsity Blues out there was about to be,
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it was not to be on and real quick and I want to throw out
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somebody real quick. I want to shout out, I know we
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don't do that till later, but I want to shout out without
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talking about, like my son. I got a nephew and he's an
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eighth grade. He started, his name is Derek
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Fisher, my nephew is he Starting quarterback for Bethel High
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School's JV and eighth grade and he was in the 75 and Hampton and
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they grade, you can play JV High School football and basketball.
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And he was a starting quarterback and right now they
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got in projected, but I'm to be the starting quarterback as a
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freshman on the varsity and I'm telling y'all.
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Wow, I'm just telling y'all, I'm telling y'all.
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He's special to named Aang. I'm just there to Mission Derek
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Fisher and he's in. He's Bethel.
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High School. He is special.
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He's special. For Sigler and Vitaly, y'all
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should not forget that name to man was the Laker for all those
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years. So it's very special and we said
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why we've had some coaching changes here.
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The recently, you know, we got a new offensive line coach in
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there, we got a new running backs coach.
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There's some flip-flopping, let's talk about this because
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you very publicly cosine, getting tie washed and back in
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here. You just mentioned his name a
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few minutes ago, you know, when Joe Rudolph got hired a way to
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Notre Dame. Obviously the Hokies didn't go
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that way, but can you talk a little bit about what benefits
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you thought Todd could have brought to Blacksburg?
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Well, let me just say this guy's.
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And I appreciate that question man, because I'll say this and
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this is not me being fake because I can't be fake.
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I said this on the Big Dog. Sports Talk Radio Show.
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I do every Thursday morning. I have my weekly segment and I'm
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going to say this again on y'all great show.
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I'm a support the higher, the same way I support if went to a
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in the beginning because I'm a hokie.
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So whoever he pried his guys went with, I'm a rock with until
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they show me otherwise, but I just felt like, went I reached
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out. You gotta understand something
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like Todd, Derek Smith hogwash, and Eric Schmidt, Janelle
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DiNapoli, those guys Jay? Hey good, all those guys, we
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were brothers, for 45 years and Beyond and I can't describe to
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you the pain, but I'm we're not biased.
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Either like we'll call each other out, we but, but I'm
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telling y'all right now, Todd is a phenomenal coach, and He's a
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great football mind, not just because he won a Super Bowl as a
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player and a coach, but I felt like from the need standpoint of
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what we need and Blacksburg. When I look at the old line last
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year, just to be frank, man. I was excited about Rudolph
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coming because even back in my day, Wisconsin, offensive
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lineman have been the standard. You talking about like the way
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they pushed the pocket, the way they get to the second level,
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how they Mall people. You look at guys like Ron, Ain't
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that ran their like I mean they were running back you and
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regards to just putting out numbers, I mean, the death style
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win against Ohio State's. I mean.
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Yeah, but it's tough, but they still were like take what they
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were consistent program. So we got Rudolph, I was
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excited. But if we're being honest, I
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didn't see any improvement with the offensive line.
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And that's not about Talent. We had tons of pre-snap
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penalties. We will undisciplined Many times
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in the our POS we were illegal man.
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Downfield we look lost you go back and watch the tape.
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Against ODU, we have moments when we moved the ball rushing,
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but it's go back and dissect it. Take, we could not combo block,
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many times, the defense alignment we're splitting.
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The combos will be couldn't get to the second level.
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We talked about the turnovers in that game but look at the pass
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protection. So if we're being fair and
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honest, Rudolph did not improve offensive line.
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And I thought Todd Washington, I don't think Pride need to hide
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everybody that's ever played in Blacksburg because that would be
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asinine that you don't need to always bring everybody back.
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I trust him but I thought Todd would have been great as far as
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x's and o's relatability in. The fact is is that he's
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coaching the pros right now. It's not like he is sitting
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around and he's paid his dues and I'm going to say this and
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I'm going to say this and I don't normally do this all the
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time. But this is something Todd said
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when he was on the Vic 757 show with Mike and I'm talking all
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things Tech. He's also said this on the
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Victory Life podcast with me, but it is still tough for black
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men. To get coaching jobs on the
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Collegiate and pro level, and that's not a shot at Virginia
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Tech. I'm just saying that if you look
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at it, you know, he can coach, he's paid his dues and he has
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been passed over when he was at, with the Baltimore Ravens, he
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was the assistant offensive line coach when tie rod was back in
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the Flacco and I posted an article how he's more than an
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online coach, how he was able to you know, coach different
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positions. And I felt like, you know, he
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continuously has to have to jump through hoops to get that call.
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And I think his children being in college and being adult
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children. This was the perfect time and I
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thought it would have been a great higher and it would also I
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think It's corny as it sounds in college football.
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You kind of gotta ignite the fan base with excitement and
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momentum. Sometimes there's a little bit
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of x's and o's, as well as marketing, and it's a balance to
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getting like that, buzz going on on tawa to check both boxes,
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right? Just to kind of, you know, Lami,
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playing a wrap. This question up this answer, I
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trust who they hire because I trust pride and I'm not that
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bias where I'm going Now you know what?
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I'm done with y'all going. You know, you're going to hate
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on my midnight on. I'm grown-ass, man.
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I'm not going. I'm not gonna give up you know
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I'm saying but I just thought I would have been great man.
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I mean you gotta understand something man.
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I redshirted he played as a true freshman and he was able to play
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guard and both Sinners and he could snap and long snap and he
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was drafted, he played with the bucks.
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He went against Warren Sapp and Darryl Brooks.
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He played on those Tampa Bay team.
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Has he played for the Texans, he's coached and Ali, he's coach
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collegially. So, you know, it is what it is,
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man, but it's a business and I'll just end with Rudolph man.
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You know, I'm not going to mock his his goodbye statement to
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Tech, you know, talking about God.
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This but I'm just over these guys and you can you can do it.
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I'm just not just smoking some of these guys that, you know,
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Market. I just think some of these guys
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get on here and they get and they put the tech stuff on it.
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These press Is and they talk that.
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I'm just happy to be here. I've always wanted to be a hokey
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and it's just it's great to be here.
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And I just love this place and my wife, we've already toured
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the town and I'm like, man, stop, stop capping.
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Like if you're going to be in it, be in it.
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If you just at the end of your career when you trying to get
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checks then just be honest. But don't play with my school.
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Don't play with my University. You know I'm saying?
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Because I felt like you know, I didn't see any results and
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that's not nice. I'm not being personal, but like
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to me Tech is a unique place where you got to get, guys and
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players that want to be at Tech. We will never ever see that be
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more longevity, where you had coaches there for 1624 that time
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has gone. But you still can't you guys
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that want to be there for several years?
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So for the foreseeable future. So I think these hires and the
23:29
staff, you got to make sure you got the right people.
23:32
That's just my two cents on it, man.
23:34
We'll listen, man, we, we like the two cents.
23:36
I think it's more than two since I think it's a dollar.
23:39
It's okay. You keep it coming but at
23:42
certain go, what we was talking about here.
23:45
We appreciate all your Insight talking about, you know, Todd
23:48
Washington, and just to touch a little bit kind of what Dwight
23:51
was saying about the minority coaches.
23:53
It is very hard for minority coaches to break through and get
23:58
the and get a job or a job that they're wanting to go into.
24:02
So, just want the retouch on. And say that but also pivoting
24:06
because you brought up some stuff.
24:08
You said you trust Pride which is was this huge and he went out
24:12
and hired a guy to run the old line and looking at his track
24:17
record looking at his history. Mr. Ron crook kind of what
24:20
you're thinking about how you feeling about that.
24:23
What about that picture that you that wheelchair?
24:26
Yeah, man out there backwards hat, it would It's a solid
24:35
higher. I think the one thing I've
24:38
learned as I've gotten older, since I've done playing, as I
24:41
used to just like an average values to get excited.
24:44
When a coach one, the press conference, like when they would
24:47
say all the right things because they, you know, they did their
24:51
research. They know what the fans and the
24:53
followers want to hear, but to be blunt, I don't have favorite
24:58
teams. My only team is Tech.
25:00
Right? So to me it's a, what have You
25:04
done for me lately. So like when I'm looking at in
25:06
the spring and then especially when we because you know the
25:08
thing about life like it's 2023 like we don't really realize how
25:13
fast life is going right now, right.
25:15
We're going to Blink. We all going to see each other,
25:17
the spring game, take some pictures and have a great time,
25:19
and then we're going to Blink. It's going to be August and
25:22
we're going to be talking to know, you know, the ACC and you
25:26
know where we picked to finish, right?
25:28
So to me, I'm looking like how we come out again?
25:30
So to you, whoever that first game is, I don't have it in
25:33
front of me, then I I'll tell you how much I like to hire
25:36
because I've said this before and you guys, we all follow each
25:39
other on Twitter. And I've been on a lot of
25:41
tallies Twitter spaces. You can say what you want about
25:44
these sexy positions, but Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee,
25:49
Clemson, and the powers-that-be Ohio State, the teams that win,
25:53
even on the high school and professional level have the l0s,
25:57
the old line, indeed, Allah is Islam and scrimmage players.
26:01
Georgia has shown you and if you go back, Back to those long time
26:05
tech fans. They'll tell you look at the old
26:07
lines that I played on and they even the ones after me, Debo
26:10
Anthony Davis, dwane Brown, we looked and play like, Georgia,
26:15
I'm not saying that we won the national champ.
26:18
I'm just saying, like, we move people and nasty, you got to
26:22
have that old line, D line, you gotta have those Jason world's,
26:26
those Hopkins, Brothers on the d-line and the old line you got
26:29
to have guys that can get third and fourth and ones take, take
26:33
us back if Works going to be the guy this one.
26:35
I'll know if he's a guy if on Fourth and third and one we need
26:40
a half, a yard or yard and we get it and we get more than
26:44
enough then I'll know if the guys can pick up a back side
26:48
block and make sure they can get to the second level.
26:52
Then I'll know he give you, he giving you all that old lion
26:55
talk of y'all don't know what Tommy.
27:14
But you win games and you win 4th and 3rd and 1 or 30 and 2 on
27:20
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
27:22
You get from your prep to assignment and there's also an
27:26
ownership of the alignment. So crook.
27:29
I'm room for the guy, probably going to meet him when I get up
27:31
there in a few weeks because I'm gonna be up.
27:33
There I go. Coach's office.
27:35
I'm going to shake his hand. Hopefully I get to see him and
27:37
you know, I'm sure he'll, you know, talk to me.
27:39
If I can, I know they're going to be coaching, but I'll be up
27:42
there Friday, but it ended a man like, we'll know if he's a good
27:45
heart, like, now when JC was named interim.
27:49
And when he was retained, I knew JC was a good hire because not
27:52
only did I play with JC, but I saw what JC did at JMU and other
27:57
universities, because when he was at JMU, when the best teams
28:01
in Tech History, he coached JMU You up and they upset.
28:05
Virginia Tech, 16:7 so JC, price has a track record.
28:09
He also could recruit so crook for me, I got to wait and see.
28:16
Now from his resume he looks the part, but when say has some guys
28:22
to look the part to let me pivoted this, because with the
28:27
crocheting, like you look on paper, you feel good, right?
28:29
It's like he coached Cincinnati to a playoff berth, West
28:33
Virginia was running. All down people's throat, the
28:35
Stanford offensive lines when he was there, good, but you always
28:40
mention JB G. That was your coach, absolutely.
28:43
And I'm going to Pivot to this because I need to know how the
28:45
mentality of a player work. And in 98 JB left your senior
28:51
year JB left. He went down to Texas A&M and
28:53
Brian Stein. Spring, took over from your
28:56
perspective. How does that impact you in the
28:59
offseason? I mean these guys were working
29:01
their butts off. In Winter workouts, Rudolph was
29:04
a Are you get near the end? You're going to go on spring
29:06
break, coaches leaving. We don't know who the coach is
29:10
yet you come back, I'll spring break down else crook.
29:12
I'm sure the kids probably knew the week of spring break who it
29:15
was but just that perspective, from you, going through a
29:18
coaching change in your time. What's the mentality?
29:23
Like yeah that's actually a great question man.
29:26
You know, I was spoiled at Hampton High School because
29:29
coach Mike Smith coach, 50 years at Hampton High School, they won
29:32
14 States Championship. Two national championships is
29:36
got NFL Hall of Fame is at the same old line and d-line coach
29:39
in high school saying staff. So Hampton was really, really
29:44
good. And, you know, at the end of the
29:46
day, same thing, I text, so stability and consistency was
29:50
were all our new when JB left. It was sad.
29:55
We loved him. I mean he was so if you ever
29:57
seen Full Metal Jacket, that's how in Tennessee was now, I was
30:02
not, I was never like problem earlier.
30:04
Army. Yeah, I wasn't I wasn't proud of
30:06
the pile or whatever. Nobody was going to off himself.
30:08
I'm not making fun of suicide. I'm just saying that movie but
30:11
like this. That's how hard it was on us and
30:14
start spring was a tight end Coach.
30:16
So at that time, the tight end and o-line coaches work
30:20
together. So, when Stein spring took over,
30:24
and he wasn't really foreign to us, we knew him, but there was a
30:28
little bit of a transition because transferring had a
30:31
different style. He was more fun, loving He got
30:34
on you but he was a player's coach.
30:37
So, he would get on you and pull you to the side.
30:40
When JB would undress you verbally in front of the old
30:43
snap, the whole team. So we knew he left for his
30:48
family, it was a better opportunity, he's a sec guy, so
30:52
he supported that, but it's tough.
30:54
But I will say, the one thing Beamer was masterful that he was
30:59
always one step ahead of changes, right?
31:03
So so if he knew a guy was going to leave, well, he wanted to
31:06
bring he knew how to move the chest because I think later in
31:10
Beamers career, it kind of got funky because then he got into
31:13
Leffler who was not a tech guy. Michael Caine, who was in over
31:17
his head, had been fired from two different jobs.
31:20
I think that's when you kind of knew was kind of changed in
31:22
Blacksburg. I think the players now will
31:25
goes to their head is like, you know, we need somebody in here
31:28
because like text identity is not established.
31:32
You have toddler bowling who I know him.
31:34
Spec. But as far as that old line
31:37
peace when you lose your position coach as you head into
31:40
this Frame it's going to be a little bit with awkwardness and
31:43
it's going to be a little bit of change and I'll say this on
31:46
y'all show too I don't think fans really understand.
31:51
We watch the press conferences on hokey Sports and we see them
31:55
come out and they introduced by Witt Babcock and all of that and
31:59
they talk about whatever. But when you come to a new
32:02
University, there is So much the coach has to do.
32:06
He's gotta learn where all the stores are the grocery stores.
32:09
He's gotta learn. The exits is got to get adjusted
32:11
to wherever he's going to be living.
32:13
He has kids, they got to get them register for school.
32:16
You got to get your moving truck company and stuff, ready.
32:19
We also got to meet your co-workers, your coaching staff.
32:22
You got to get used to the climate because Blacksburg and
32:24
whatever, Southwest Virginia is different from different places.
32:28
You also got to get an understanding for your players.
32:31
You got to watch tape to see, okay, who am I working?
32:34
With who am I guys? Who am I going to bench?
32:36
All that has to happen and now you got the screen coming up,
32:40
where you got to coach them up, it's tough.
32:43
And I'll tell you, I didn't really care about losing a
32:45
quarterback coach, but losing Rudolph was a challenge.
32:48
The great thing is, you lose them now versus in August.
32:52
But I would tell you that, that is, this is my biggest concern
32:56
because continuity, chemistry and cohesiveness is essential
33:00
and the offensive line does not have that right now.
33:05
They're working on their third coach, in three years.
33:07
So it's a struggle. I mean, you got some veterans,
33:11
especially they've seen all three of them.
33:13
Yeah. And and it's a big switch going
33:17
from what advice did to what Rudolph did to probably what
33:20
Crooks going to do, the, all three of those are doing things
33:22
completely differently. So it's gonna be interesting to
33:24
see how that shakes out. Yeah, sure.
33:27
Let's talk about the other coach.
33:28
We got it house, though. We got Elijah.
33:29
Brooks running backs. Feel a little bit like history
33:33
repeating itself. The math of connection, he's
33:35
coaching running back just like Billy Hite and also we got you
33:38
to the Mike young and Mike Jones effect seems like just a theme
33:41
in Blacksburg to pull them to math to coaches in there.
33:44
How you feeling about Coach Brooks doing this?
33:46
I like that higher. I like that higher.
33:48
You get took Maryland. Maryland has never really
33:51
challenged with jeans other than that nonsense.
33:53
In that book Pinstripe Bowl, we've owned, Maryland and
33:56
football because I live up here. Maryland is more of a basketball
33:59
school. I've been Open up here in the
34:01
DMV. For 20-some years, Marilyn has
34:04
some moments where Ralph region be man's best friend.
34:06
But they have never really, you know, captured getting their
34:09
in-state Talent or even guys, they'll get a player here and
34:12
there. But here, recently started to
34:14
pick up momentum but at the same time, getting the lives in coach
34:18
Elijah and was huge because I look at connections and
34:21
relationships did the math that connection.
34:22
Also, the Maryland d.c. guys, I look at like the DMV including
34:27
if you want to go DMV 8 0 4 7 5 7 and the 4 Before Lynchburg
34:32
Central Virginia and North Carolina is a hotbed for talent,
34:36
right? And I think when Tech had their
34:38
best years we talked and this is enormous 757 guy.
34:42
But respectfully, we talked way too much about a 757.
34:46
When some of the best players were in those other areas.
34:50
Jerry Boykin is a North Carolina.
34:51
Got Charlotte. Josh Morgan is a Southeast d.c.
34:54
guy. He's been on the Vic 757 show.
34:57
Eddie Royal is a northern Virginia guy Westfield, High
34:59
School, Corey Moore, a Jew. Zuko guy, he's from Tennessee.
35:03
You look at Kevin Jones, he's from Pennsylvania.
35:06
So some of the best players are not from the 757.
35:09
Some of them are from them surrounding areas but you had a
35:12
great mix of proximity and the demographics.
35:17
It was just like a great recipe that pot that being were created
35:19
recipe of getting those guys. It was a great mix of a coach
35:24
coach Brooks. You know, you're coming in to
35:26
where he can get those guys because the one thing about
35:30
Marilyn, The Virginia Tech fan base up here in alumni live up
35:34
here and especially when we are really rolling as far as
35:38
performing well on the field. If you get on 66 and 495 we
35:41
playing FedEx or if you're in DC and Maryland other than North
35:44
Carolina, the Virginia Tech alumni presence up here in the
35:48
DC area is huge and it all you just got to do is get them a
35:53
product and I think that was it quietly.
35:56
That was a huge higher. It's one of those times where
36:00
we'll look back and be like, wow.
36:01
Now that he's getting this kid and good naked because cut 100,
36:05
I said this on tallies podcast I mean show post game one day.
36:10
Contrary to popular belief and I can speak on this because of
36:13
what I do there are a lot of young uns right now in middle
36:17
school and high school who still want to be at Tech.
36:20
I know there's this misconception that all wear
36:22
brand is so trash. No bro.
36:25
There are a lot of kids in Maryland and PG County and in DC
36:31
and and even Northern Virginia, who would like praying for
36:35
takeoff, or who are high three low four stars, good players,
36:38
that end up have been going to pit, Wake Forest Penn State and
36:43
West Virginia not anymore because you take a look at what
36:47
he did with Brooks like you said You have a guy like that, who's
36:54
clearly, he's already on the field coaching.
36:56
He's already proven. He can do it at the Collegiate
36:58
level four years in. We talked last week, he's got
37:01
running backs in the league, he's getting guys over 1,000
37:03
yards, what he did at the math of speaks for itself.
37:06
That eight-year run. He had as unbelievable button.
37:10
Hell is Brian talked about the WC AC conference.
37:14
He's gonna know all those coaches.
37:16
He probably knows, everybody up in the northern Virginia.
37:18
Everybody in the DC area. Yeah.
37:20
So it's Not even issue of him walking in, and it's a
37:23
handshake. And knowing that, that coach, if
37:26
I recruit that kid, I trust him. Yes, I know what he's done at
37:31
that high school. I know what he did at Maryland?
37:33
Yes, trust you to go there, he's gonna get you in the right
37:36
direction and sometimes that is the best selling point.
37:39
Yeah, we can all get me on my soapbox here.
37:41
Let me tell him it's good. It's good.
37:43
That was good. Curtis Sublime coach in the
37:51
door. This late in the cycle to get a
37:53
guy like Brooks a, I'm going to be interested what Chris Coleman
37:57
said. The other week, I'm going to be
37:58
interested to see how much money we paid these guys.
38:00
Yes, I think we shelled out some but to do this.
38:03
We also had a move coaches. We moved to hold from the
38:06
running back, coach to the tight end Coach, where he spent a lot
38:10
of his time in his crew, and special teams, tally gave a
38:13
great break down last week. Talking about him coaching tight
38:16
ends is probably better for the Special Teams because more tight
38:19
ends play special teams. James, thanks for that out, that
38:22
stuff tally, but the big one and everybody's raising hell and
38:26
upset and mad and it's trash and we're stupid.
38:29
And we're its jokes, is Tyler bone moved from the tight ends
38:33
room to the quarterback coach and room a lot of debate.
38:36
Lot of logic, he's a green OC. We know that.
38:40
We know that first of it. First power, 5 job as a no.
38:44
See but Let me get your opinion on this.
38:48
What are the risk? What are the rewards of having
38:50
him as the QB coach? Because we set here last week
38:53
and we said, well, he recruited drones who was a four-star kid.
38:57
He's got him out of Baylor and he stole the kid up from
39:01
Massachusetts. From Nebraska was a four-star
39:03
kid just needs a my quarterbacks they're not y'alls.
39:07
What do you think about the move of moyen?
39:08
Are you know what I did spend a lot of time I was asked about
39:11
this last Thursday and you guys are my guys, I'll be flat-out
39:14
honest with y'all. It's not amazing.
39:16
Your concern for me because here's the concern.
39:19
I have. We got to get Talent especially
39:23
at the quarterback position. Like, you know, I'll tell you,
39:27
I'ma tell y'all, man. Let me tell y'all something,
39:29
nothing. I'm telling y'all, like y'all
39:30
don't know this time. I'll speak it.
39:33
Amen, you got a Brian Randall, a Tyrod Taylor.
39:37
A Marcus Vick a gym drunken Miller, Al Clark.
39:41
It don't matter. If you got Kermit the Frog as
39:43
the quarterback coach because the reality.
39:46
She is, is that I can tell you, hey, man, make sure you be
39:49
careful what your site, adjust? A that backers moving up, man.
39:52
You know, look, if they come up and they go cover 3, we got to
39:56
make sure we check to that draw. I can tell you all that, but if
39:59
you are scared or you have no Mobility or you, you melt in the
40:03
moment, it doesn't matter truthfully.
40:07
We got to get more talent and that's not a shot at the
40:09
quarterback. We have now that's a shot at the
40:13
circus. We've had at quarterback since
40:15
Jerrod Evans is left. Because it's not been
40:17
sustainable. So if you want to know my
40:21
opinion about it, I'm not as concerned about Boeing's ability
40:24
to coach her quarterback, it's more so about, can we get some
40:28
talent in there? That can make plays like that
40:32
whole Miracle against Nebraska tie rod?
40:37
Did it tie rod did it? I'm no tie rod since he was six
40:40
years old, his dad played in my high school.
40:42
He's older than me. I knew Tara was a dog when he
40:45
was playing for the Lindsay tornadoes.
40:46
When he was in Middle School, tie rod is Elite.
40:50
He was special on the Collegiate level.
40:52
So whoever the quarterback coach was or I think Stein spring was
40:56
the o.c. and start spraying. I'm biased.
40:58
That's my guy love them with. He's like a father Uncle to me
41:02
but that was all tie rod and Daniel Cole, you know I'm
41:05
saying, tie rod is running, he's waving dyrell Roberts, you got
41:09
and Annika Sue, hanging on his jersey and he throws a dart to
41:13
Darrell. That's not coaching that's
41:16
plane. Taking.
41:17
And if you look at Virginia Tech last year and the games they
41:22
lost, and they lost a lot of close games turnovers, not learn
41:27
how to finish, but they also lost the teams especially when
41:30
they got blown out. It was because the other team
41:33
have Playmakers, like, like UNC has a pleasure greater
41:38
quarterback, you know, I'm saying.
41:40
So Curtis man, like, I'm not about to spend to mind.
41:44
I respect when, you know, I love my father.
41:46
Was in the fans. I love child.
41:48
No, I don't really get argumentative because I'm always
41:50
learning I learned from y'all. I learned from tally, so I'm not
41:53
going to talk, like I know it all because I mean it's a valid
41:56
concern but I just think when you look at our talent I mean we
42:01
getting kids in now, we got to get some more Playmakers, man,
42:04
like that that game against West Virginia man you know we
42:10
overthrew to wide open, touchdown passes right?
42:13
And then one time, it hit dude in a helmet.
42:16
You know what I mean? That ain't quarterback coach,
42:20
and that's not making plays if that makes, you know I'm saying?
42:24
Yeah, so definitely, definitely what you, what?
42:26
You write, what we need to. Because we going, we're going to
42:30
jump into that here in just a second.
42:32
I know, we got to get ready to take a break to pay some bills,
42:35
but we going to jump into you, hit a couple of points that I
42:38
want to talk to you about. Yeah the big thing with the you
42:42
talking about the playmaker I mean that's what we didn't have
42:44
last year mean guys and crunch time just not making the plays.
42:48
Whether it's a lime and missing a block or blowing an assignment
42:51
or receiver. Not being where needs to be or
42:53
an overthrow. I mean there was thing plays all
42:55
over the field. I'm looking at the tape.
42:57
I'm like, you know, we like one or two plays away from making
43:00
something happen here. But guys aren't making the place
43:02
consistently. Yeah, and that's what it is.
43:05
It was man. And I mean, I mean and they
43:08
would never felt like the The old line deal on a special teams
43:11
were on the same page. It almost at times look like we
43:16
were scared to win. We had games.
43:18
I mean that NC State game at NC State was a prime example, I
43:22
mean they had it but you drop picks.
43:25
The older you game was there. I was there I had foot.
43:28
I have front row seats and I'm going to tell you some of y'all
43:30
talk about my son Isaiah earlier.
43:32
He leans over to me, it was me him in my wife and he said, you
43:36
know, Dad you're not making game when in place.
43:39
And I said, dad and they weren't they?
43:42
We dropped four people, right? We drop you right, wrongs wrong.
43:46
We dropped pigs. So again, you can talk about,
43:50
like, you know, coaching prior admitted that he, you know, he
43:54
has some time management issues and things like that.
43:57
But for me, when I look at that game, you know, it's so funny.
44:01
I was coach very well throughout my career once I stepped on the
44:04
field, I was prepared and you guys all competed in play.
44:09
I then became a player like it's only so much a coach can do for
44:13
me when you going against the Miami Hurricanes the Clemson's.
44:17
You know, the West Virginia is the Syracuse.
44:20
The players all played against the Vani holidays that have been
44:23
used Acura bonds. You got to be a man, I can't be
44:26
out here looking to the sideline, you know, like Kevin
44:29
Hart, help me. I, you know, I'm saying.
44:35
So I mean, I'm not, I'm not. I'm just one, I just want your
44:40
listeners and viewers to understand that it comes down
44:44
to. We got to have talent like you
44:47
go back in the history of Virginia Tech you to go back to.
44:49
You know, when people first got there and the antoniou frame is
44:52
and all them, they make your job easier, you know?
44:56
It's just like, you know, we try my son in basketball, man, it
44:59
helps when you are 66 and it helps when you have a shooter, a
45:03
helps when you have a bench, you know.
45:05
So I'm both. Boom, boom was going to be fine,
45:08
but we got to get Quarterback position, right?
45:11
Absolutely. I'm with you on that.
45:12
I think it's going to be players first.
45:14
You get the players players will always make coaches look better.
45:17
Any level of any sport, great players make coaches look
45:21
better. Now let me do this real quick
45:23
because we you're going to touch on what tallies go ask about
45:26
when we come out of break before we get into more topics and we
45:29
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Now, back to the episode, go tally, go.
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If you living under a rock, if you haven't been tuned in, we
46:05
glad you finally. Here, we're here with the white
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Vic. Why it was touching on a couple
46:11
of things that like I said, it was near and dear to my heart
46:15
before break. So, if y'all haven't heard it,
46:17
you going to go back and listen to it later on.
46:19
But Dwight was talking about last year.
46:22
Brett prize, first year, three and eight out the gate.
46:25
Yeah. People on a cliff Vic Vic.
46:28
Vic had to talk me out the cliff plenty of time.
46:30
Yeah, yeah but when we talk about that season we lost a lot
46:36
of games by little bit of points I think for Games, 11-point,
46:41
something like that. Nobody really was predicting us
46:43
the win last year, but Brent Prime, he owned up and he talked
46:47
about it, a lot. He talked about, we have to
46:50
learn how to win and he say, we as in coaches and players, we
46:54
have to learn how to do this. So Vic I want you to touch on
46:57
that for me, huh? And just tell them, tell us in
47:00
the viewers kind of what that means to you.
47:01
When you hear that. Yeah, I was adamant, man and I
47:04
said this even going back to the Fuente era.
47:06
His last three years. They're on different platforms.
47:09
At forms, including your Twitter spaces.
47:11
And this is not I know there was a tortoise face one time it was
47:14
either in yours tallies or it was Dawn V when somebody came
47:17
and I think my man had too many to drink but I kind of felt what
47:20
he was saying he was saying as far as we got to get those
47:25
flinte guys, out of there. I thought there was a bit
47:27
disrespectful but I think what he was trying to say.
47:30
And I hate to assume his like When you are not used to winning
47:36
losing the comes expect it like, it's like, here we go again,
47:39
like I had the great Trey Turner on the Vic 757 show with me and
47:44
Mike are first season. And Trey, Turner said, a yo,
47:48
y'all like I don't think y'all realize to me and Mike.
47:50
He said I played with seven quarterbacks and he still had
47:54
his last year left and I was like, yo that's wild to me
47:58
because that's unacceptable and even though Fuente was known as
48:02
the court. Back Whispering, Ryan, Willis,
48:04
and all those guys have moments from my store and all those
48:07
guys. Ultimately, I think that look
48:11
that's more about your culture. I felt like last year was a
48:14
microcosm of guys, not knowing how to win.
48:18
Like I love Dax hollifield. I like I think Dex personifies
48:22
what it means to sacrifice and really care about your school.
48:26
But at the same time and like Dax has never been in a
48:29
situation other than that year and I think it was an act.
48:33
When when they first got there, they were in the coastal.
48:36
But like for me and guys that came after me like the
48:40
expectations of 11 wins conference Champs and plenty of
48:43
in the BCS Bowl, Alliance Bowl, Sugar Bowl, the Orange Bowl like
48:47
one year, we went to the Gator Bowl we finish second and that
48:50
was just, it was terrible. It was unacceptable.
48:54
So, when you are used to winning, no matter what you
48:57
play, it's a certain mindset when you step on the field, when
48:59
you step on the court like you expect to win he so you make
49:02
game winning. Plays, you know, you know, when
49:04
it's tripta football like you go back to one of the most
49:09
talented, Virginia Tech teams ever.
49:11
I've said this to D'angelo, we joke about it.
49:14
Now we didn't talk about it then that 2003 Virginia Tech team is
49:18
well, that's Tech teams and Virginia.
49:20
Tech History, Jake, Grove, Ernest, Wilford DeAngelo, Hall,
49:24
Eric green, Jimmy Williams. Brian Randall, I can go on and
49:27
on, he went eight and they went eight and five.
49:31
They beat they beat LSU, they'd be texting him.
49:34
They be they beat Marshall, but then they lost to Boston College
49:38
and other teams that they were better than, right?
49:40
But that Miami team. They beat, they showed you for
49:43
one game. What they would have been Miami
49:45
gang. And I only came into that game
49:47
on a 31 game, winning streak, and DeAngelo Hall, and the press
49:52
conference before the game said, I don't think Miami is good as
49:55
y'all make him out to be more than like that.
49:56
He put a Muslim deal. All right.
49:58
What did they all do? What did they all do?
50:01
He's old, he took the ball from Rosco strip them and from that
50:06
moment on they punch Miami in the mouth, had Winslow on the
50:09
sidelines, real throw hands, Brock Berlin was on the field,
50:15
crying facing the grass. The point I'm bringing out, it's
50:18
not the Nostalgia. I'm talking about is that team
50:21
and teams like that, made game winning plays.
50:25
I saw us last year in games, man.
50:28
We just look, we look like the Georgia Tech game.
50:31
Georgia Tech game, we had that game and what happened?
50:35
Which was I think to go up two scores and The Young and the
50:39
running back King fumbles, right?
50:42
And I'm not blaming for the laws, they punch the ball out,
50:46
but again, if you're used to making plays, you scoring that
50:50
you hold the ball, you know, how to secure it, you don't have a
50:53
hole in it and ran in reciprocal reciprocating that use.
50:57
You have a sudden change like that.
50:59
Your defense goes out there and they get a stop and get The ball
51:01
back. Yeah, yeah.
51:03
Look at the year before the year before, against Syracuse for
51:07
today's last year, you know, you up by 9 with a minute and a half
51:12
left and you lose that game, I think it was two minutes left,
51:14
you lose that game. Look at the game against Notre
51:18
Dame the year before. I know that's not prize yet but
51:21
those the same players that was up non Notre Dame the same guys
51:26
nortre Dame that year was a playoff team and they were
51:29
rocking and Blacksburg you got the Pick six and they melted.
51:33
And it's not that they are afraid or they're not smart.
51:37
It's just and for anybody else never played.
51:40
I can't really give it to you verbally.
51:42
I can't verbalize to you what it means.
51:44
It's just something you know, when you know how to win and you
51:48
got to have winners. I'll tell you right now.
51:50
I've said this to you guys off offline.
51:54
Guys like Caleb, Woodson. Brilliant Johnson, these guys,
51:58
they're bringing in from Highland Springs from
52:00
Battlefield. All winners, the winners I ate.
52:05
I like winners when we win The Sun, Shines brighter, the food
52:09
Isabel's. My bed feels better.
52:13
Now I can watch, I can watch the other games with pride because
52:17
we won and I can I can feel good.
52:19
I can watch highlights and not be afraid you know when we lose.
52:24
And you know, I'm telling you man.
52:25
Last year was to the point, man. Like, I remember me and Mike,
52:28
were talking and we were truck and this is, this is how
52:30
dangerous Losing is we're trying to get focused and get excited
52:35
to do a show because we've been losing so much.
52:40
You gotta tell us man. Yep, every week.
52:44
Yeah. Leave his face every week with
52:46
Curtis. Curtis Curtis.
52:48
Check it out. We are media people.
52:51
Imagine the players. Oh, I couldn't, I couldn't.
52:56
Oh yeah. You got something for me about
52:59
what happened near the end of season because You talked about
53:02
not winning in just a few weeks ago we had fontelle Minds on.
53:05
I don't know if you caught that yet.
53:07
Listen to that interview. We talked about the plays the
53:11
Liberty game, they made all the place, right?
53:15
Yeah. It made all the plays.
53:16
They did everything the the often scored the defense.
53:19
Stop to offense, didn't let him get the ball back.
53:21
But Brian, you got some shoot shoot.
53:23
When we were looking at that, it wasn't a perfect game, but they
53:27
made the plays. They had to make the close it
53:29
out, which is some we hadn't seen.
53:31
All year, but it looked like also offensively.
53:34
There was some shift in philosophy, kind of the starting
53:37
the couple weeks before that, but really kind of came to a
53:39
head in that game. Have you ever experienced kind
53:42
of having to shift gears like that when things weren't quite
53:45
working for you? And you kind of had to do a
53:47
little little things different, and what type of impact did that
53:49
have on the team? Whether that's positive or
53:51
negative? I mean, it's hard.
53:54
I think when you, this is the one thing I've said this to you
53:56
guys, before, and we've talked, and I said, it's Italian his
54:00
Twitter spaces. His to his, to his ball over the
54:05
one thing that we didn't touch on but this goes back to answer
54:08
your question. This is something that we
54:11
haven't had in Blacksburg in a while his leadership, right?
54:16
Like it's not something Andy, bitter, David tyll, Mike Barber
54:21
can really, you can't really put that in the sporting news
54:24
magazine. That's not going to be a ACC
54:26
media day. That's that's that's a
54:28
measurable thing. You have to see and feel
54:31
Leadership is what Jim drunken Miller was what JC price was
54:36
when he became the interim, you saw that, right?
54:38
You saw how they responded like I have said this, I've gone on
54:42
record, I felt like the leadership when those sudden
54:47
changes in adversity, hit was lacking.
54:50
It wasn't so much that guys were selfish and they were going to
54:52
transfer in the portal and they were all about themselves.
54:55
But Take yourself back to when we were winning, nine, ten,
55:00
eleven games or even that first, couple of years went to a came
55:04
in and he went 10 wins, nine wins and a twins.
55:08
You had Ricky Walker. You had Tim settle.
55:11
You had to Edmonds. Brothers.
55:13
You had a lot of leaders. Even Josh Jackson, you can
55:18
criticize him. He was a solid leader when he
55:21
took over, you know, even Gerard Evans.
55:24
Bucky Hodges now. No buck.
55:26
He's not a verbal guy. But, you know, Isaiah Ford was a
55:29
leader. I felt like after those last
55:33
guys left it became manufactured leadership where it was a lot of
55:38
hashtagging. A lot of, you know, false
55:41
promises a lot of posters. You know, it was like like
55:44
during the Puff Daddy are was a lot of shiny shoots but it
55:48
won't, you know, like it wasn't even real pretty wasn't any real
55:51
toughness and I felt like we talked about that question guys.
55:56
I feel like That comes down to leadership and mental toughness,
56:00
you know, I don't like talking about like like I laugh when
56:04
down because I'm the same way, I don't like to say.
56:07
Back in my day we was this because I think the athletes
56:11
play today are phenomenal. I mean, I think the kids playing
56:14
now, just as talented, if not more and I think that the kids
56:19
now deserve a fair chance every season, but I will say that.
56:24
The one thing that never changes in the game of football when you
56:27
About winning programs and winning cultures leadership when
56:31
coach prior can turn his back and know that the player is,
56:35
when there's that Dead period, when their coaches can't talk to
56:37
the players. Like, like, for example, I'm not
56:42
sure they would doing this, and I know you got to be careful
56:44
with the NCAA rules, but this is, if the coaches aren't,
56:47
there, is not a violation. How many guys were getting the
56:50
receivers and dbe's together after workouts and going over
56:55
seven on seven? And Running routes, you know, my
57:00
chemo came on our show and talked about how they would
57:03
work. After practice D'Angelo, like
57:05
how many guys would really like, leading, like Jake Grove was a
57:09
leader, you know? And Leadership is not like a
57:12
bunch of like, Speeches and scriptures and you know it's
57:17
more soldiers holding your guys accountable saying look man we
57:22
are going, we are going to sacrifice, we can get this this
57:24
conference Championship. So I mean, my answer to that
57:29
question is, is leadership. Like I just think, you know, you
57:33
look at the Great Tech teams, even a teams that won eight
57:36
games, that had a good season, they had leadership and I just
57:41
think that's that's been missing to man.
57:44
And I think you're going to, what are you saying?
57:46
Is that, that rah-rah stuff is only gonna get you so far right?
57:49
It doesn't, it doesn't look man. But like, like not to pick on
57:53
Jamis when I like Jameis Winston's because he's funny to
57:55
me, man. But I joke, I joke about his
57:58
speeches, man, because I remember that one.
58:00
When he was like, we're going out here, you look at his
58:02
fingers, we're going out here. We gonna eat him like man,
58:05
that's not gonna get me height and, and honestly like getting
58:10
high is cool. Whatever Gets you going before a
58:15
game before a big performance? I'm more.
58:17
So low-key, quiet guy. I get in my zone like the moment
58:21
I'm on the bus or the plane, I'm already locked in, I'm locked
58:24
in, I got my, you know, I got my music on, I'm ready to go, I
58:29
hate pregame II, never like pregame because after I get my
58:33
good sweat going on, I'm ready to play.
58:36
But some guys need to head bun and hit and I'm the okay,
58:40
whatever. But that is only going to last,
58:43
because, That first Court, even after the first two series, you
58:46
got to execute and you got to perform.
58:49
And and that's why a lot of time you're in the rise up here,
58:53
after that it's not, you're not, you're not getting that from
58:55
everywhere. You've you've got to have your
58:57
own motivation. Yeah.
58:58
Bring to the table on top of being ready for the moment.
59:03
It's really funny because I think all of us here we're all
59:06
fathers were all, we're family, man.
59:09
We support our families and a lot of times it's up here.
59:12
Why do you do what you do? Do why do you go in and work the
59:15
long hours? Why do you take that extra
59:17
class? Why do you do that?
59:19
That's up here. That's up here.
59:21
Yeah, because you know anybody can easily skate by but I'm
59:24
going to Pivot slightly because I know tally.
59:26
Excuse me. I know Dwight, you do not, you
59:30
can't stay as long as we stayed in the past, which has been
59:33
long. But what do you think this?
59:36
You know, it's in one of our listeners here put it up here to
59:40
is kind of what I want to ask. What are you seeing that?
59:43
Is why Brent prize starting to establish the team identity?
59:47
What are the things you're doing?
59:48
That makes you feel good to say, yep.
59:50
Last year, we were three and eight, but the tallies point to
59:53
tallies points, beginning for those games while 11 points to
59:56
Brian's point, when they made some philosophy shifts, things
59:59
started looking better. What have you seen?
1:00:03
And we know you have some privy conversations and what have you
1:00:06
heard that may get us back to the True Tech identity to get us
1:00:10
back on where we want to be? Yeah.
1:00:13
You know, I think the one thing and talking with pride and also
1:00:21
like just just in what I've seen is he's recruiting, his stay.
1:00:28
He has a recruiting philosophy. He also is not afraid to admit
1:00:32
his mistakes. I hate when coaches lie.
1:00:35
Even when I played, I like bro. Like I hate when they get up
1:00:38
here like we didn't execute. We got to look ourselves in the
1:00:41
mirror. We got to go back and eat.
1:00:43
Vegetables and go to bed early and pray like dog.
1:00:46
Stop man. Like the one thing I rock with
1:00:48
pride about is he's honest. Like he has the ODU game.
1:00:51
He talked about being overwhelmed a little bit, not
1:00:54
managing the clock but more importantly man.
1:00:56
Like he is, he has a philosophy. He's sticking to what he feels
1:01:01
is best for Tech. And I think he also understands
1:01:04
the importance of relationships in the Commonwealth and like
1:01:08
those areas we touched on 30 minutes ago about Carolina in
1:01:12
DC, Maryland, And honestly prize my guy, like he knows we follow
1:01:18
each other on Twitter, I can text him and call Pride.
1:01:20
So he sees my tweets but he's not going to be intimidated by
1:01:25
Dwight Vic who has 13,000 followers because he wants Todd
1:01:28
Washington, you know. And that's not saying he doesn't
1:01:32
love Todd and because that's that's his guy to.
1:01:35
I just think you have to stick to your convictions and he's
1:01:38
doing that he also isn't. I remember when I went to ask
1:01:43
about what Dance, like Beamer and he said, well hopefully we
1:01:46
got, you know, more games than win, bigger games, where I can
1:01:49
dance, right? I didn't know if that was a shot
1:01:51
at be more if he was just actually talking about winning
1:01:53
more games, right? And then they're year, we'd be
1:01:57
UVA. When we thought we're going to
1:01:58
lose the fumble game in overtime and he said that before the
1:02:02
game, he said, they'd better get us now, right?
1:02:07
Because we're going to be better or my favorite.
1:02:09
He told before Foster that now that he was there, he wasn't
1:02:13
going to happen. After we want to worry about
1:02:14
winning with defense. I think those kind of statements
1:02:17
sound good, but their emotional, they're not rational, right?
1:02:20
Yeah, because prize not that. Like, I'm not saying he's
1:02:24
calculating, he strategic, he's honest he's sincere and he's
1:02:28
telling you not what you want to hear, but the truth when he saw
1:02:32
my, we got too many scholarships.
1:02:33
We know we're going to have some honest conversations and I think
1:02:37
more importantly he came there when I was there, like we both
1:02:40
came in there around the same time.
1:02:42
Together, him and is a Ta and me as a player.
1:02:45
So he saw how Tech was built and he knows how you build a program
1:02:49
and environment like Tech. But I think the biggest thing
1:02:52
he's doing well, that that makes me happy and feel good about it
1:02:57
is he's really trying to push and recruit the right players
1:03:01
and recruit VA and the DMV. And I think he's also building a
1:03:06
staff that can recruit and that's sustainable.
1:03:11
But again, I mean is much I can sit Up and care to Brent's life.
1:03:15
Brent Plies flag and talk about how great he is.
1:03:19
That's my dude but make no mistake about it.
1:03:22
He's got to win. He's had a Lynne.
1:03:24
I can I can talk about how I'm a love them.
1:03:27
If he go 8 + 4, 0, 10 and 0, or 1 + 9, that's my dude.
1:03:32
You know, but they got a win, it's a business.
1:03:35
And this is not this. Think the bema are we the first
1:03:39
six years? You know, technical Tech has
1:03:43
that That stuff now is when bhima took over, you had guy,
1:03:49
wasn't there. I was younger.
1:03:50
But when he came in, you had guys on campus, wearing Miami
1:03:54
Hurricane hoodies. You had guys wearing Syracuse?
1:03:58
It wasn't like, you know, now he go, there is all Maroon Tech
1:04:02
was, none effect, was not in East Bay.
1:04:05
We weren't on video games yet. People thought V T stood for
1:04:08
Vermont, right? And then be mermaid, Beamer
1:04:12
ball, and household name. Mmmmm Bud Foster.
1:04:15
The lunch pail became a symbol in college football.
1:04:18
So Virginia Tech fans have tasted the forbidden fruit right
1:04:22
there. Since then they have been there.
1:04:25
So Pryor has to get us back to that point of relevancy.
1:04:29
Where right now, we are irrelevant.
1:04:31
We're living more of our history not Traditions than actual
1:04:35
outcome. And that's, that's embarrassing,
1:04:37
that's embarrassing. When when you find yourself,
1:04:39
giving history lessons all the time, like, oh remember we beat
1:04:42
ya'll. We Won 10, straight games and
1:04:45
not. Nobody want to hear that.
1:04:46
Like, people love me and respect my insight because I can talk
1:04:50
about the relevancy of my career, or my insight, how it
1:04:54
relates today, but nobody wanted me to talk for hours about 1999,
1:04:59
you know, because it's 2023. So I mean, I know I've talked to
1:05:05
him, I've been in those offices. I've seen those coaches working.
1:05:10
They understand that they have to get more Talent.
1:05:13
They have to build death but I think the one thing is it's
1:05:17
calculated, its patients, it's Brick by Brick, he said this.
1:05:22
And I believe it because you see it, he really wants to build it
1:05:26
the right way. Now, I know other guys have said
1:05:29
this. I do think, you know, you got to
1:05:32
kind of play with the portal, which, you know, they did.
1:05:36
They got some guys in the portal and the one thing that, you
1:05:39
know, people don't realize how I talk to Pearson prioleau about
1:05:42
this to say his coach. He told me that he was like him
1:05:46
and DJ told me because they they had guys, they were going to get
1:05:49
out the porter you before, but they several of them chose other
1:05:52
schools. So this this past offseason, we
1:05:57
got some guys in the portal. So I think you get those guys
1:06:01
because those guys talk to Prior, you can kind of see what
1:06:03
he's building, you know, sometimes it's just, you know,
1:06:07
you gotta it's like when you dating a girl you gotta show
1:06:09
her. How much you love a versus?
1:06:11
Just talk about. Everybody can run game.
1:06:14
You know I'm saying that I gotta show, you know I'm saying?
1:06:17
Absolutely. Yeah.
1:06:20
I mean you talked about building the foundation and getting
1:06:23
Talent back in their building some of the depth on the on the
1:06:26
roster. So let's talk about recruiting
1:06:29
the state. Last year, we got 12 players
1:06:32
that came in from the state. Most we've had in a while but
1:06:36
zero came in from the 757 looking at that area.
1:06:40
Do you think that is due to the kind of the degree with which
1:06:43
relationships deteriorate it under the previous regime?
1:06:46
Or is it more to do about the unique nature of recruiting the
1:06:49
75 years? The man, you know, I'm from down
1:06:52
there down v a lot of Rio, would it so many of us, man, you know,
1:06:57
that was the best of the best kept secret when I was growing
1:07:00
up because you didn't have social media, you know, and then
1:07:04
you wake up one day and place to go Birds Allen Iverson.
1:07:07
Ronald Curry, Michael Vick Aaron, Brooks Sweet Pea
1:07:12
Whitaker. I mean all of a sudden you're
1:07:14
like God blessed. Where's this place at this?
1:07:16
The largest metropolitan area in the country without a pro sports
1:07:19
team? Mmmmm and all of a sudden it's
1:07:21
like you got Missy and for real and all of them from down there
1:07:27
and they know it's just it just becomes a hotbed just starts
1:07:30
trending. I mean, Teddy Riley, it's just
1:07:32
crazy, right? How it blew up in the 90s right
1:07:35
and Beamer with once again, shout out to my man is beams and
1:07:39
Coach cabin, co-star spring. He had the right recipe to get
1:07:42
down there. You know, he knew to put all his
1:07:45
eggs in a Mike Vick basket versus going all in on Ronald
1:07:48
Curry, who everybody wanted? He To only recruit one
1:07:51
quarterback which is tie rod who was a top nationally ranked
1:07:56
quarterback or dual threat quarterback.
1:07:58
He knew that Brian Randall would fit his system and that he was a
1:08:02
very talented player but nobody was going to really be after him
1:08:05
and Williamsburg versus if he was playing in Virginia Beach or
1:08:08
Norfolk, he knew him and started springing Cab new to get Kam
1:08:12
Chancellor who didn't have any offers but he was 65 and
1:08:17
absolute Beast athlete. So when you Create a Kam
1:08:21
Chancellor and you create all those guys, and I can't even
1:08:25
name them all. Bucky Hodges all the sudden,
1:08:27
Ohio, State, Penn, State, Nick Saban, Clemson, it coming in and
1:08:33
the 757 is always going to be a unique area because it's very
1:08:37
Urban but it's also Southern so Norfolk.
1:08:40
Newport News, Hampton. Virginia Beach is not like up
1:08:45
here where I live in Northern Virginia we have the Metro with
1:08:47
right you know as traffic taught, you know. 495.
1:08:51
It's a mix of Southeastern Virginia.
1:08:55
So we're still Southern and it feels like everybody's related.
1:08:59
And if you piss 1707 coach off, none of them going to rock with
1:09:03
you. So, if you yeah, I'll take you
1:09:07
guys back because I was in middle of this.
1:09:09
Some of this started when we were recruiting, some guys,
1:09:12
smoke mines, Illinois them, and they were playing for the 7017
1:09:15
called the thoroughbreds and we sent Kurt Newsome down there.
1:09:20
R and start spring, had that area.
1:09:23
What starts whirring has a Immaculate reputation down
1:09:26
there, but they felt some kind of way with, you know, some of
1:09:31
the other coaches and there was a disconnect and Mike, London
1:09:35
took advantage of it, he played the race card, he was smart,
1:09:39
he's a great coach. I mean, as far as recruiting
1:09:42
wise and relationships and he got Andrew Brown, smoke mizzell
1:09:48
and Quin Blanding. We got Andrew Brown.
1:09:51
He was a national Gatorade player of the year.
1:09:53
So he was able to get those guys that commit and that's when you
1:09:56
saw the type the tables turn because they were going to UVA
1:10:00
or they were going on and state. And then a lot of those coaches
1:10:02
down there were like, don't send your kids to Tech and then we
1:10:06
didn't help ourselves because it was some kids that we were
1:10:10
supposed off of, but never pulled the trigger.
1:10:13
And then once you do that, man and then guys start going out of
1:10:17
state or start going to North Carolina and stuff like that.
1:10:20
It hurts you, and then in and, you know, fast forward, when
1:10:24
Drake block got to UNC, you could talk about him, all you
1:10:28
want. He was a thorn.
1:10:31
Like the episode went went on, Tommy Davidson was on there.
1:10:34
With Marty said, you have been a thorn in my ass, and thank God.
1:10:40
He is went to Detroit to coach. Yes, it bother him.
1:10:44
So here's a, here's a deal, Brian.
1:10:47
I mean, The 757 will always have that reputation.
1:10:52
Is everybody from down there? Great know, some of it they're
1:10:56
living off of what DeAngelo Hall and other guys have done.
1:10:59
Then there's some guys down there that we missed on that we
1:11:04
should have offered and recruit like that kid from Bethel, High
1:11:07
School that went to Notre Dame that was an All-American that's
1:11:09
now in the NFL he you know he went to Bethel, Bethel High
1:11:13
School gave us Chris Ellis and James Gail, okay?
1:11:19
So that that continue you see right there what that's done for
1:11:23
so we got and also Ricky Walker. So you got three great defensive
1:11:27
lineman that came in in Jimmy Williams because he played at
1:11:29
Hampton High in Bethel. You got to get those guys
1:11:32
Phoebus has a monster that's going to pit named Jordan bass.
1:11:37
All things either. He's the guy that normally would
1:11:40
going to Tech and the word on the street is I know this from
1:11:44
my sources. We almost flipped them but we
1:11:47
didn't finish. Came close to flipping.
1:11:49
We didn't finish, but you got to get the join basses, but I
1:11:54
think, you know, it's about relationships.
1:11:56
You got to keep going down there showing your face.
1:12:00
I don't think I get corny and do the Electric Slide like Nick
1:12:03
Saban at the fish fry but just saying, you know, saying at the
1:12:08
same time you gotta you gotta show love and you get you that
1:12:13
is a that is an area where It's just so unique area because some
1:12:18
parts are really Urban some parts of suburban.
1:12:21
I mean, Southern some parts are very dangerous.
1:12:24
I have ronyell Whitaker on, he grew up in Youngs Park, one of
1:12:28
the roughest projects and in southeast Virginia and Norfolk,
1:12:31
right? And, oh my show.
1:12:33
He said start spring came out today Young's part and that's,
1:12:38
you know stars for is a white man.
1:12:40
He was out there and he came in Rafael and sat with his
1:12:43
grandmother. Hey fool.
1:12:46
He said Notre Dame other schools weren't coming to Youngs Park,
1:12:50
right? It's stuck.
1:12:51
A had to do. Yeah, it's stuff like that.
1:12:54
You got to go into those those those places coach Cavanaugh me.
1:12:58
Michael was on our show one time not one time the show I do with
1:13:02
my, he joked about how he new Beemer and cabin on them wanted
1:13:07
him because they was in really Circle where he from and he was
1:13:11
out there night. He was like, yo, man, I thought
1:13:14
it was gonna mess around and get robbed and shot.
1:13:16
You know, I'm saying. So, I mean, you just gotta
1:13:21
that's a long answer, but the point is, man, you just got to
1:13:24
keep plugging away. I don't think, I don't think our
1:13:27
fan base really, realizes how and I'm trying to move on,
1:13:32
because I don't have no beef with that man.
1:13:33
But went, a really, really ruin those relationships, man.
1:13:39
They, I'm not even talking about the Oscar Smith's of the what
1:13:43
I'm talking about. The, the schools that we had
1:13:47
pipelines with, right? Yeah, when you when you start a
1:13:51
movement from Texas hashtag to VA and you got coaches who are
1:13:56
like we haven't seen Tech down here and months or in two years
1:14:01
that is, you can't do it. So you got to keep playing it.
1:14:05
You got to keep plugging away. Yeah, and that's something
1:14:08
you're here in Telly. I know you got a question.
1:14:10
I don't make a real good point in the taste.
1:14:11
This was on us last week and he mentioned that he's like there
1:14:14
would be money. When High School coaches would
1:14:17
not seek a, he's like this regime every few weeks.
1:14:20
They rolling in every few weeks they talk and they're texting
1:14:24
Batali. You got a question to mr.
1:14:27
Curtis Curtis and Curtis not only are they all done every two
1:14:31
weeks. This one thing they're doing,
1:14:32
this is smart. They're at the youth games, the
1:14:36
Cold War toys. Like they're, they're see again,
1:14:40
the 757 the 757 is like it's like we're tally.
1:14:45
He lives like you got to you got to know the streets, you got to
1:14:49
know the youth leagues. You got to talk to those people
1:14:52
and know like yo there's an eighth-grade over here on
1:14:54
Aberdeen robro. Go talk to his aunt man his dad
1:14:58
you know he doing six months but his aunt.
1:15:00
She you know if you tell her you know you got to come.
1:15:02
You gotta you gotta work the streets.
1:15:04
I'm not trying to compare it to the drug game.
1:15:06
I'm just saying you got to hustle, you know, you can.
1:15:08
And we've been we've been talking to those guys that the
1:15:11
trainer's, the 707 coaches, that we weren't doing that.
1:15:15
So just want to add that man. No, that's good because no me
1:15:19
into white, we talk a lot. We've talked in a lot of spaces
1:15:23
just about, you know, recruiting recruiting stuff.
1:15:25
You know. I don't profess to be a
1:15:28
recruiter but I understand how recruiting works because I've
1:15:31
seen it a lot. I've studied it a lot.
1:15:34
People talk about like the school Hoover High School here
1:15:38
in Alabama, Hoover was a Powerhouse for a long time and
1:15:42
it was cheating but they were a Powerhouse for a long time
1:15:45
because of how they ran their program, their six and seven
1:15:51
year old football teams got visited from the high school
1:15:57
Who's the one that was cheating but he was the one he would go
1:15:59
and tell those coaches. He knew those coaches that he
1:16:01
would do. I hate?
1:16:02
This is the, this is what they need to be running.
1:16:05
God can simplified but those five and six-year-olds need to
1:16:09
be running this. Because if they're going to be
1:16:11
in Hoover, if they're going to be in Hoover city, they're going
1:16:14
to run this program. So cultures were already knowing
1:16:18
what to do and coming in as a recruiter, you would be talking
1:16:22
to Youth League, coaches. You will be talking to me.
1:16:26
A, you would be talking to where they ate it.
1:16:29
Oh, you just pop up at you, you eat here?
1:16:32
You eat at this Waffle House and you'll see a coach pop up at
1:16:35
that Waffle House. Where this kid's mom is eaten.
1:16:39
But anyway, I just wanted to throw that in next thing we were
1:16:42
going to go away because like I said, me and Dwight, we talked a
1:16:44
lot through the spaces and have talked a lot just in the DM's
1:16:49
all that good stuff over the phone.
1:16:52
The white has a lot of insight and on Players and in under the
1:16:58
radar players that we should Beyond I did.
1:17:01
He's like I know last year, I think correct me if I'm wrong.
1:17:05
You talked about the Amari Campbell kid a lot.
1:17:08
Right? Was that his name?
1:17:09
Yes. And he had he ended up going.
1:17:11
You can see, right. Yeah man.
1:17:13
I meant background because of him because he told them about
1:17:18
me because I was young and I'm like his mentor and he's got a
1:17:23
younger brother played in my a, you organize Alvin a you His
1:17:26
days, we got 16s. And I was at Uni, read High
1:17:29
School a few months ago and I walked up there Mack Brown and
1:17:33
their deepest accordingly. We talked for almost 40 minutes
1:17:36
during the during the fire drill and Mack Brown.
1:17:39
I'll be honest with y'all, he was tripping because he knew he
1:17:42
knows I'm going to poke through and through.
1:17:45
But I'm all about the kids, but he was tripping on like yo like
1:17:48
you really okay with him going to you and see it.
1:17:51
I'm like if that's his school but I just say, Tom, I'll Say
1:17:56
this I mean more is a tar heel now but he, he was waiting for
1:18:00
that Tech awful. But again, you know, sighs
1:18:03
measurables, I don't know what tech wanted but I mean I, you
1:18:06
know, I'm there a lot of kids I see up here or even in the state
1:18:10
I'm like, hey this kid is special, you know, I y'all see
1:18:13
me on Twitter? No, stay there.
1:18:16
That's what we that's what we well, we at right now for 2024
1:18:21
throwing fly out there for us, man.
1:18:22
Who listen kids, did you see? And detect need to be on Whose
1:18:26
Jack, it is a kid. Okay, there's two right now.
1:18:30
First of all, let me just circle back.
1:18:32
This is 2023. I'm telling y'all right now.
1:18:35
I've been talking about them, even before Tech offer and
1:18:38
Caleb. Listen guys.
1:18:40
Yes you did. He's in this program.
1:18:42
Hey, lil Woods. I'm telling y'all, I'm not
1:18:45
making any profit again. I got a straight.
1:18:47
I got a strong track record. As I said, I told you about
1:18:49
Stroman this time whatever. But there's a couple of kids.
1:18:53
I love this. There's a kid at dinner.
1:18:55
With your high school right now. He threw for two thousand and
1:18:58
ran for tooth. I cannot remember his name right
1:19:01
now. He is a elite athlete.
1:19:04
He's at dinner with it. They play in the state
1:19:06
championship. He's special.
1:19:08
I'm gonna get his name. I'm starting the bottom because
1:19:11
I'm letting 2023 as Cloud, but you're gonna see some names.
1:19:14
Just, for y'all viewers out there and you, even you three,
1:19:17
you know, we follow each other. Check me because I'm gonna start
1:19:19
sending some names out. There's another kid, I can tell
1:19:22
you right now, he's also a quarterback, but Um, the kid at
1:19:27
Highland Springs, the quarterback.
1:19:30
He just wouldn't their fifth straight Championship but I
1:19:32
think it was his first or second.
1:19:35
I'm Neymar. Yeah, I'm the Christian Martin.
1:19:39
Yeah, he plays basketball too. He has Poise.
1:19:44
He I mean, he's a different kind of kid.
1:19:46
He goes to bed early. He works hard.
1:19:50
He's a tech, kind of kid. I just think I let you go ahead.
1:19:55
Go ahead. I want to get you.
1:19:56
The name Harry Dalton the third class of 2025.
1:20:00
He already has a tech offer from Dinwiddie.
1:20:03
Okay, so good. Okay.
1:20:04
No. He get it to you because if not,
1:20:06
I would have our two forgot it. No, no.
1:20:08
Thank you Curtis. So I'm just don't know, I'm
1:20:11
telling y'all like, tech fans watching this or when you
1:20:15
re-watch the, you re are this or whatever.
1:20:17
Check him out, bro. Like he is special like, it's,
1:20:23
it's funny too because that's why I told you I'm not that old
1:20:26
G my day, you know, no man. It, I see some kids now but like
1:20:31
God blessed, man that kid, you know, a special so that then
1:20:34
when the kid is good, man. Um, you know, but those are two
1:20:39
kids that come to mind. But I will say, I have other
1:20:41
kids too, because what tends to happen between now and the
1:20:44
spring? I'll start looking at tape or
1:20:47
going to some camps or the summer time?
1:20:50
I'll, you know, I got followers, man.
1:20:53
I don't know what they think, if they think I'm a A scout or I'm
1:20:56
just so passionate but I get people that kiss and Prospects.
1:21:00
That send me their family, my DMs, I'm like, hey man, I don't
1:21:03
I don't, I mean, your film looks great, but I don't I'm not that
1:21:08
guy. I'm not, I don't work for 24/7
1:21:10
anymore, I don't work for Rivals anymore but I will, I will
1:21:15
retweet and show highlights of kids that catch my eye.
1:21:19
My wife has been trying to give me the coach college football
1:21:22
for years but I'm not doing it. I love Victory life but I would
1:21:25
tell you You, I have a good eye for seeing players.
1:21:28
I I can see a guy with in five, any girl female athletes but for
1:21:33
the football, I can see I'm like, yo, I can just first time
1:21:36
I saw Greg Stroman, I was like that kid special.
1:21:39
Yeah, so it would tell me every time I come hit me with
1:21:43
somebody, it's done, it's done. Turned out good.
1:21:45
So I had to bring that kid up. I went back where I kind of
1:21:48
remember this name, but I went back to make sure I had his name
1:21:51
right on the kid who went to UNC.
1:21:54
So you heard it. Here first, big Vic's a tech.
1:21:59
We got to get on Kmart and Harry Dalton the third down and then
1:22:03
with yeah listen look at you see the comet up here by Robert.
1:22:07
Listen, the kid and dimwitty is the truth, bro.
1:22:10
He and he looks like when those quarterbacks in the orange and
1:22:13
maroon he would like man you know, run you know?
1:22:16
Because look man, look I did the 2013, spring game broadcast.
1:22:20
I was the, what's the term God. I hate this word color
1:22:24
commonality. That word because it's too close
1:22:27
to colored. I hate that word.
1:22:32
I just always say I was the analyst I was a commentator.
1:22:35
Yeah. So I remember I was doing this,
1:22:37
you're breaking it down, I was there.
1:22:38
I was a two thousand thousand on ESPN3 and I said bring a Motley
1:22:43
was in. I was like man you know I like
1:22:45
this kid and I said Tech historically has always done
1:22:49
very well with dual threat quarterback sand.
1:22:52
The last got the last guy to really prove that was Dorado.
1:22:55
Evans. I just think I just think like
1:22:59
when you look at certain programs that's the, that's the
1:23:03
beauty of high school and college sports, right?
1:23:05
No matter what like they always have, like Duke always has
1:23:09
someone knowing player that you hate, or, you know, how to beat
1:23:15
you there to be, who you are? Yeah, Alabama, always has some
1:23:18
amazing running back or whatever or Tech always has some great
1:23:23
dbe's or, you know, two or three.
1:23:25
At quarterbacks, we've always had my you go back.
1:23:28
Respectfully. I'm not trying to make it sound
1:23:30
to be trendsetters but like Beamer and them really embraced
1:23:34
dual-threat quarterback with Morrie should say, so like, yes.
1:23:37
And I just think that kid at Dinwiddie embodies that like,
1:23:40
I'm not knocking the quarterbacks like, Grandma
1:23:43
Esther or Ryan Willis. I'm not trying to like we get a
1:23:46
pocket passer is what it is but I feel like like tally just say
1:23:51
I feel like you all who you are. Like I feel like Pride gets that
1:23:56
when he's trying to get this defense right and get that
1:23:58
toughness. I just think, man, like the kid
1:24:02
at Dinwiddie, I'm a huge fan because when I saw him play, you
1:24:06
know, how you go to you, you watch a game even if it's on the
1:24:08
nfhs app or you go to a game when you see something on
1:24:11
Twitter you like hold on hold on all play that back.
1:24:13
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. To see that again.
1:24:21
Let's let's talk about this because we had we have until
1:24:23
last week. He told us.
1:24:24
Is he kind of feels like the staff is going to attack the
1:24:27
state of North Carolina a lot harder to this this cycle we
1:24:31
also know Elijah Brooks History with the Washington Catholic
1:24:35
Athletic Conference up there. How important is it for this
1:24:39
staff to have good relationships with a couple of those hotbed
1:24:42
areas kind of that are just outside the state.
1:24:45
I've always thought Carolina, you know, even though it that
1:24:49
stay is known for basketball because it all the schools I
1:24:54
think I The day, there's always been Talent down there and we've
1:24:57
really locked it in even when Mack Brown first got the
1:25:01
Carolina. You know what, the guys we
1:25:03
talked about earlier with Trey, Turner hinden hooker and all of
1:25:06
that. But I will tell you, the WCA see
1:25:11
is probably in my humble opinion more important because that
1:25:16
conference in football and basketball is just like crazy
1:25:21
loaded with talent and, um, You got to have somebody to kind of
1:25:26
get in there and rub elbows and get those kids that come.
1:25:29
Because if you look at it like, you know, Paul Paul 26 and
1:25:34
DeMatha st. John's and all those schools up
1:25:37
there up here where I'm at, they got they got Ballers and they
1:25:41
got athlete's. And I just think, you know, we
1:25:43
got it, we got it, we got to keep attacking man and we got it
1:25:46
and it's not even about the whole and IL thing it's really
1:25:49
about just building on the culture.
1:25:51
You establish and getting guys like like Bread right now, need
1:25:55
to keep improving and I think your brand improves when you
1:25:58
have players where kids and fans across the state and crossed it,
1:26:03
the country can identify with like when you watch the
1:26:06
documentary on Virginia Tech and Michael Vick you saw, those late
1:26:11
90s rappers like Noriega and Wu-Tang and all of them talking
1:26:15
about they were tech fans because Michael Vick had him on
1:26:19
the map and everybody was talking about Mike and but it
1:26:22
wasn't wasn't about Mike. It was about Cory.
1:26:24
We mourn their attitude and how like the Beamer document arrives
1:26:29
part of with Brandon Flowers, talking about, when you saw Tech
1:26:32
play, you saw like trash talking added to the dump.
1:26:37
EAC has players like that. Like they had kids that, you
1:26:42
know, don't get it twisted because it's a Catholic private
1:26:44
school district. Those kids are going there
1:26:48
because they're coming from Southeast DC and PG County to
1:26:53
get out the hood. I'm not sure.
1:26:54
They could like Dion said. I'm not trying to tell you that
1:26:57
you got to get kids from the hood.
1:26:59
I'm just saying like don't let me just be honest with y'all
1:27:01
cause I keep it real. You gotta get some goons that
1:27:05
also want to get Street. You gotta we gotta we gotta get
1:27:08
look man. Let me take y'all back down
1:27:09
memory lane man. People don't remember this.
1:27:12
But the ACC did not want us in the conference because with
1:27:17
giatec was known to be very outspoken.
1:27:20
Come in, take over your Stadium, we were very aggressive.
1:27:24
You had You had ronyell Whitaker, and Jimmy Williams,
1:27:27
and all those guys. We were known to talking about a
1:27:30
trip. We were, we were gonna shush, we
1:27:32
were aggressive and in our first two years in the ACC we went 16
1:27:37
and one and only lost one road game.
1:27:41
We went into Maryland we took out winning the Carolina which
1:27:43
took over. We've always taken over and
1:27:45
we've gone to UVA. We went into every place and we
1:27:49
took over and that start recruiting you know when you
1:27:54
Guys like Antonio Freeman from Baltimore City.
1:27:58
Josh Morgan from Southeast d.c. Jason world's from New Jersey,
1:28:02
right? You get those guys that are
1:28:05
aggressive. Being recorded intelligent
1:28:08
recklessness right? Yeah, I remember I used to be
1:28:11
like, yo, beings is only one brother.
1:28:13
Like I was a young, and I was a redshirt, I'm like, man.
1:28:17
What the hell is intelligent recklessness?
1:28:19
And then I saw JC price, Cornell Brown shots of my guys from
1:28:23
Lynchburg because even that's another Other place like Andre
1:28:26
Kendrick call Bradley Cornell Brown.
1:28:28
Those guys from the LBC AKA Lynchburg they were dogs.
1:28:33
Like you got to get guys like that like Cornell Brown y'all
1:28:36
see him now his nickname at Tech was monster that was his
1:28:41
nickname monster. He didn't comb his hair.
1:28:44
He know, he just had just was out man and he he was an animal
1:28:48
man. And hey Coleman.
1:28:49
You got those guys, some 80 for boys, I can keep going on.
1:28:52
I'm not going, blow your show, it with all these.
1:28:54
Dropped. I'm just saying that I would
1:28:56
love that. I get nostalgic because I know
1:28:59
what tech is this is I'm not trying to have a mic drop
1:29:01
moment. I know what Virginia Tech is
1:29:03
supposed to look like yep. You know what I'm saying?
1:29:07
Like I know, I know what you're supposed to look like, right.
1:29:12
It's so I think we've got people that come in that want to make
1:29:17
it look like what they think and then going to work, you know I'm
1:29:20
saying? So like if I went to visit
1:29:22
tally. Well, if I came a hung out with
1:29:24
you because Be where you live. The first thing I'm going to do
1:29:27
if I stay with you for a month or if I'm hanging out with you,
1:29:30
I'ma look, listen and learn. I'm not going to come in saying.
1:29:33
Well, why don't we park here? Why are we eating here?
1:29:35
Why don't you? I remember Snoop Dogg told a
1:29:39
story about Nas when he came out to LA to holler at him and he
1:29:42
said, they were getting ready to run up on him because he was
1:29:45
wearing red, and they were like, no, no.
1:29:48
I'm and naz's my God. He was like, oh, they were okay
1:29:50
because Naz did no, you don't say he and that's the kind.
1:29:54
It's almost like small things. Like I'm not trying to pick off
1:29:58
one table when which was in Blacksburg his 56 years.
1:30:01
He was there right? How many commercials in South
1:30:04
West Virginians? You see him on how many
1:30:05
Billboards did you see him or nothing?
1:30:08
Right, there was no connection. There was no connection.
1:30:11
Let me tell you about Connections.
1:30:13
Let me tell you something. This is a small little hustle
1:30:15
move Beamer had several guys on the team that will walk ons that
1:30:20
were from Christiansburg high school and Blacksburg High
1:30:23
School, and even Even Pulaski. Now, I'm not trying to dog those
1:30:27
guys because those are my teammates and brothers, what
1:30:29
they D1, guys. Some of them end up starting
1:30:32
temperature and I'm starting center.
1:30:34
He was a undersized lineman, but he had guys in the community
1:30:39
that were there that got into school that were Walk-Ons, that
1:30:43
kept the connectedness. So, Southwest Virginia had
1:30:46
people that they could route for that play, special teams that
1:30:50
really couldn't hurt the scholarship count, right?
1:30:53
This is, these are small. Chess moves, you make?
1:30:55
Yep. You know, I'm saying.
1:30:57
So but honestly, man, I'm not trying to disrespect nobody or
1:31:01
get canceled on y'all. We gotta get more goons man.
1:31:04
I don't mean goons that get DUIs or like my homie.
1:31:07
And Alabama, that was pushing weight, that got ran from the
1:31:10
cops. Talking about some of the stuff
1:31:37
we talked about a lot of people thought that kids should have
1:31:40
went out of state because of how connected his father has been in
1:31:44
prison. He just got out of prison and a
1:31:47
lot of people thought he should have went out of state to get
1:31:49
away from some of the stuff that was going to come with.
1:31:52
Yes Dad. Just not getting out.
1:31:54
What the Alabama, you know, his family just bought him they just
1:31:58
maybe two weeks ago a month ago. They just bought him a Scat Pack
1:32:03
Challenger which is a Crazy Fast Car expensive.
1:32:06
Car is why he was going 141 running from the cops but you
1:32:12
know like this is stuff that's public record now.
1:32:15
So we were just talking about that.
1:32:17
But the go back what we were talking about?
1:32:20
You got to have, you got to have people on these coaching staff?
1:32:24
Is that are connected to these kids, that's going to help them
1:32:28
get to the next level. And I said, Alabama doesn't have
1:32:31
that, you know, that's why Nick Saban came out and said, what
1:32:34
are you saying? Hey, it ain't no such thing as
1:32:36
wrong place. Wrong time.
1:32:37
Yeah. He's letting the, he's letting
1:32:39
the public know. That ain't got nothing to do
1:32:41
with how we do things here. Yeah, so I feel like the kids
1:32:44
cook there, but, you know, I feel like Tech going back to the
1:32:48
coaching searches that we've talked about, in the coaches
1:32:51
that we have, you got to have some of those coaches, whether
1:32:54
Minority coach or coach, this really, really embedded in the
1:32:57
minority Community. They can tell these kids, hey
1:33:01
man, this is, if you're going to do this, you got to do this.
1:33:05
If you're going to go to this kind of party, you got to have
1:33:07
this. You got to have coaches, that
1:33:09
are able to kind of speak that lingo.
1:33:11
So it's a lie. I'll just, you know, what you
1:33:16
actually say this to you. Because I think you also got to
1:33:20
have It's what goes back to about Todd?
1:33:23
Like I don't I pulled a race car when I need to and I think, you
1:33:28
know, when you're in Southwest Virginia, it's important to have
1:33:30
men that you can talk to because like, we are so much more than
1:33:34
athletes. I met my wife at Tech, I got two
1:33:37
degrees, but also went through some challenges.
1:33:41
Nothing. Bad.
1:33:42
No racial profiling but just I came to Tech.
1:33:45
It was weird. I was 17 years old.
1:33:46
I probably should have graduated in 95, but I came there, you
1:33:50
know, young under Her age and then I turned 18.
1:33:54
But like it would take DIN and now it's a big school.
1:33:58
So culturally it was a challenge.
1:33:59
So thank God for people that were in the athletic department,
1:34:03
that worked like Dorita Ratcliffe who was an academic
1:34:06
advisor and Mentor Troy peace, who was from DC, who was also in
1:34:11
the student life Department, who was a black male that talk to me
1:34:15
about like, when I was going through different thing, dating,
1:34:18
you know, there's a lot of stuff we deal with, you know, from You
1:34:22
know, depression from learning disabilities to, you know, you
1:34:25
get that phone call where your mom has to have surgery or, you
1:34:28
know, you got money problems or your uncle got locked up fans,
1:34:31
just see touchdowns positions, but you got to have people there
1:34:35
that can relate to you, man. That's where, you know, and I
1:34:38
also want to say to with the whole thing going to lie.
1:34:40
I don't know why. We have a small contingency of
1:34:43
fans that criticize or judge kids want to go to the NFL.
1:34:48
I don't, I mean, what is the? That is what they're there for.
1:34:51
For I mean so you better understand how I can get you in
1:34:56
the league? Because look man, I have four
1:34:59
degrees, I'm licensed, I'm a licensed therapist.
1:35:03
I take pride in that but there's a lot of stuff I took at Tech
1:35:07
and in high school. I don't use, I don't use so, you
1:35:11
know, everyone's not there. And I have friends that do not
1:35:14
have degrees. That makes six figures that live
1:35:17
very well that a blue-collar that can come in and put down
1:35:20
new carpet. Fix your ceiling fan and they're
1:35:23
very intelligent. So success comes in different
1:35:26
shapes and sizes and different ways.
1:35:28
And I think ultimately you got to have people on your staff
1:35:32
that can relate to your players. And also understand, like I told
1:35:35
the story numerous times balmy Jones, retweeted my tweet and
1:35:39
one night when I said during the, Michael Vick 3430 Beamer
1:35:45
understood us as black men, he understood.
1:35:50
Y'all need to go to the Million Man.
1:35:51
In March. What can I do?
1:35:53
Do you get a plane to need a bus?
1:35:55
Because during that time in our country there was stuff going
1:35:58
on, we need we wanted to go and we still want to Sugar Bowl that
1:36:01
year and won 11 games. So my point being is that it's
1:36:05
not always about recruiting and getting the positions, it's also
1:36:09
being able to deal with stuff. Even when I talk about
1:36:12
relationships, man, because it's not a big deal now, but, I mean,
1:36:15
even when you're dating girls, you dating outside your race.
1:36:18
You know, we had guys, during that time from I had never seen
1:36:22
snow you know, that I had several guys on my team that
1:36:27
went to rehab for alcoholism this is stuff, y'all will never
1:36:30
know. But this means that those
1:36:33
coaches help those young and kit through and they ended up being
1:36:37
better for it. So I didn't mean to go off on my
1:36:41
pool, he didn't, but I just think these are things that fans
1:36:44
just look at position player wins recruiting and recruiting
1:36:49
is so much more because Mother or RT, or grandmother or Mom and
1:36:54
Dad are sending their sons and daughters for the female sports
1:36:58
to a big Power, 5 school for three to five years and say, I
1:37:02
need you to make sure my kid does not leave with charges or
1:37:05
any unexpected children. Okay.
1:37:08
I need you to be able to make sure his ass gets to class.
1:37:13
You know, stove, it's that's what the coaching staff of
1:37:16
recruiting about it. Because about having guys, a
1:37:19
whole lot of trust, gotta have a whole lot of trust.
1:37:22
You tell I mean not the what you do it every time you come on
1:37:25
here with us, is you paint the picture that it is a lot of
1:37:28
small pieces, like you mentioned having the local guys, but
1:37:31
you've also like you just said with Frank, Frank understood
1:37:35
what being a black male was in this country when he was
1:37:38
coaching? Yeah, he made.
1:37:39
Sure y'all understood that he understood.
1:37:41
Yes. And, you know, and that's done
1:37:44
of the bigger Parts. Is making sure that it's
1:37:48
related. It's discussed.
1:37:50
It's brought to the public Point, we talk about the rasta,
1:37:53
the stuff you're talking about is the stuff behind closed
1:37:55
doors. You're talking about having the
1:37:57
right people on staff. That, you know, I looked at the
1:38:01
staff, while you were mentioning that you got like a deed, you
1:38:03
got Glenwood further. You got these guys who come from
1:38:08
these different places, mmm, who come from these different
1:38:11
backgrounds. So when they see a young guy who
1:38:14
maybe is on their team, having some struggles, he can sit right
1:38:18
next to and let's talk. I know where you're from, I
1:38:20
know. Was all, let's get to where
1:38:23
you're feeling better about it. Yep, let's get to, let's get to
1:38:27
class schedule. Right, let's figure out what you
1:38:29
want to major in. Let's, let's figure out how
1:38:31
we're going to do it on the field as figure out the personal
1:38:34
issues. And I'm going to put this up
1:38:37
right here. This is our buddy coach Compton.
1:38:39
It's that it's relationships, relationships relationships,
1:38:43
it's about relationships. It's why I love doing this
1:38:47
podcast for a long time with Brian.
1:38:49
That's why we brought tally in, as well.
1:38:52
Relationships, we have great relationships.
1:38:54
We love having you on because we have such a good relationship
1:38:57
with you easy to talk to, you know, we're gonna throw good
1:39:00
question, you know, we're not going to go fucking stupid.
1:39:03
You know we're not go ask Dad asked question because if we ask
1:39:06
stupid questions, two years ago when he first came on the
1:39:09
message back to Brian. The next year, would have been 9
1:39:12
busy that night. Sorry.
1:39:13
Yeah, we don't and we let you have the floor but I know we're
1:39:20
in a tighter window. Because you told us you got a
1:39:23
kick out of here early we got three more questions.
1:39:25
Okay. These are fun ones.
1:39:26
These are phone. I really like though that we hit
1:39:29
that seriousness piece though man.
1:39:30
Because oh yeah, definitely, it's definitely great to hear
1:39:33
but we actually the three fun questions before we let you go
1:39:36
tonight. Let's Tell You Gotta Move.
1:39:39
Yeah, we gonna We gonna, we gonna go with the like you said,
1:39:41
was some fun stuff and I know it's going to be hard, but you
1:39:44
gotta narrow it down here. He ain't gonna real easily.
1:39:48
He got to read most under appreciated.
1:39:51
She ate it Hokies all time. Oh my God, I thought Joseph
1:40:01
appreciate Here.
1:40:22
And she's going to she is she is going to say, you didn't say
1:40:25
him. So I'm just going.
1:40:26
So I'm just gonna tell y'all this man.
1:40:29
We gave you homework later, right?
1:40:31
Yeah. You give you some homework.
1:40:33
All right. Awesome comes to mind, Yammer
1:40:36
new. Someone of a 55, he went to
1:40:39
Butler Junior College and I feel like when but Foster would tell
1:40:45
you arguing, he's the best linebacker he ever coaching.
1:40:47
You think about it? Linebackers has come to
1:40:49
Blacksburg. Yeah, he played at Hampton High
1:40:52
School with me. His son is Dad's new, some his
1:40:54
other son is Deon Newsome Beyond.
1:40:56
He's also related to Tyler Wilson who was a Virginia Tech
1:40:59
Hokies and also James Wilson who play Tennessee, but he came in
1:41:03
and embody what that backer position was.
1:41:06
I'm be, I think he's always going to be forgotten about
1:41:08
because social media. He was only a tech for two
1:41:11
years, but he Led Tech to or Sugar Bowl championship when
1:41:15
bowl game win. And also, 96 Orange Bowl
1:41:19
appearance against Nebraska and to conference Inserts and also
1:41:24
think, you know, he was critical in setting the tone he played
1:41:28
with George deal, Rico, and Toni Morrison.
1:41:29
Um, there's another one. Where's Dale Rico?
1:41:33
Yeah, I'm not seeing the Rico's unappreciated man.
1:41:36
Yes, he is it. That's why I said, this is
1:41:38
actually a tough question. Well, so tough.
1:41:41
Well, I know you got plenty of would probably be Be I was going
1:41:52
to say it's gonna sound funny, but when I want to say Shayne
1:41:59
Graham, because Shayne Graham is one of those guys because he's
1:42:05
very well-spoken on Twitter, he coaches College.
1:42:08
He was at Florida. He was trying to get back at
1:42:10
Tech but I think we appreciate him for the miracle in
1:42:14
Morgantown with him and Mike and that kick.
1:42:16
But you gotta understand something if Beamer ball and
1:42:19
special teams were so big and this is a Father, Jimmy, kibble,
1:42:23
and Shayne Graham because Jimmy kibble was a punter and he was
1:42:27
not his known as they came in together around that same time.
1:42:31
I think Jimmy Kimmel might have been a year older, but Shayne
1:42:34
Graham, his kicks and, and he was clutch at the right time and
1:42:40
we don't look at field goal kickers.
1:42:42
I know we had some great ones since him Brandon Pace on the
1:42:44
guys like that but I just think, you know, there's one there's
1:42:49
some guys that we don't he's Talked about for that kick but
1:42:53
what he did in Blacksburg during his time there is remarkable.
1:42:57
And then again, I got a few more, any fullback culling
1:43:02
Hawkins near Fergus any. Fullback 30 mrs.
1:43:05
Jeffers Jr. Ferguson my wife is clapping
1:43:09
right now, she's like, Gary Ferguson is a coach at the
1:43:15
strength coach at Tech now, but honestly guys, I know are
1:43:18
younger fans. Like who are these guys Jarrod
1:43:20
Ferguson? Just look at the run against
1:43:23
Syracuse when he had one shoe on.
1:43:25
But also what he did against Wiley Rainer who was one of the
1:43:29
best linebackers are UVA history.
1:43:32
Just a phenomenal fullback was physical and he was actually a
1:43:36
running back he was a walk-on who earned a scholarship end up
1:43:40
being one of the best fullback and that's a position that is
1:43:43
pretty much dead in the NFL college and high school like
1:43:46
full bags in each box now and I'm trying to think about
1:43:51
something. Like something, somebody more
1:43:52
modern. Well, I always did here and I
1:43:55
think Vegas Robinson. Oh, thank you.
1:43:57
Sir was an underappreciated linebacker.
1:43:58
Yeah, he was a hell of a, yes, yes, yes, so many in, maybe
1:44:04
that's it. We just bring you back into
1:44:06
summer and we just talked about the unappreciated guys, and
1:44:09
we're here for three hours. We are cuz it's you know, it's
1:44:12
guys like Ernest Wilford, you know?
1:44:15
I mean it's just so many guys, man.
1:44:18
I'll tell you one, my wife, just I'm still in Hershey.
1:44:21
Just takes you Brian Randall. Oh, yeah.
1:44:25
Let me, let me tell you, let me tell y'all something because I'm
1:44:28
gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw one out.
1:44:30
I'm not throwing out to the white meat, the white make.
1:44:34
Don't ever go to Tech. Do we ever do we ever get to the
1:44:37
Michael Vick in the Marcus Vick? I'm just saying?
1:44:40
Yeah, you know, that's a good point, man.
1:44:41
That's a good point. You know, Iris.
1:44:43
Listen. I say be messy.
1:45:24
Man, I'm here because I just had to put it.
1:45:26
I know you weren't gonna say it. So I know because I think we
1:45:31
appreciate you so much and we know all that you not.
1:45:33
Listen, let me tell you all. Let me tell y'all something.
1:45:36
I appreciate that. Curtis.
1:45:37
Let me tell y'all something and I'm gonna we going back this
1:45:39
rent. I was at the spring game last
1:45:41
year, brother, and I'm telling you, and my son gives me a hard
1:45:44
time because, you know, I'm his dad.
1:45:45
But man, I signed hundreds of autographs.
1:45:49
Tooks a bunch of pictures, man. Hokie Nation on my birthday.
1:45:52
I mean, the fan. Fans show me love.
1:45:55
Like I got like a TD reception record at Tech.
1:45:59
I was offensive lineman but I go into like different places and
1:46:02
kids come up to me. I sound balls.
1:46:05
That's why I tell you man. You can you choose the right
1:46:07
University? I played 20 some years ago and I
1:46:11
have a lot of people who rock with me hard and that's a
1:46:15
blessing and shout out to Hokie nation and this real quick and
1:46:18
we can wrap up with the other two questions but I want to
1:46:20
finish my point by Brian Randall, I was always a huge
1:46:23
brown ran. Fan because it was tough to come
1:46:25
after Mike and then his brother come behind you.
1:46:28
He was benched on national TV against Miami.
1:46:31
When we broke Miami's 31 game, winning streak, right?
1:46:34
It was bitch for Marcus Marcus who that great touchdown.
1:46:37
Pass over Sean Taylor to Ernest Wilford and he came back him and
1:46:43
Marcus went back and forth and started you know, rotate it but
1:46:46
the following year he came back when I first year in the ACC and
1:46:50
he led him to a conference Championship and they took all
1:46:53
burnt to the brink of an upset, they lost 16:13 and Auburn went
1:46:57
undefeated that year. So I just think Brian Randall.
1:47:01
If he plays a different time, he's appreciated more.
1:47:04
That's I just I think he's a guy that I hope tech fans keep
1:47:09
appreciate him because he's also he's an excellent father.
1:47:13
Him a mica, good friends, they go golfing together.
1:47:15
I don't do the golfing thing. I just hit him, talk about it.
1:47:19
All right. Second, fun question.
1:47:21
Alright, we are going to take the Six, seven, five, seven
1:47:25
Cruise. So that's you do white and Mike
1:47:29
out of this conversation, okay? All the football seasons and
1:47:34
Virginia Tech History, what season makes you say?
1:47:38
What if the most we mean like what if like if we like this is
1:47:43
the one I use because you mentioned be rain.
1:47:45
What if in 2004 D hauling? Kevin Jones decided to come
1:47:49
back. Oh, oh, okay.
1:47:53
I got it. I can tell you right now I can
1:47:55
tell you right now go for it. The what if season?
1:47:59
The what if season if he Because it's kind of a tough time for
1:48:03
our family. If Marcus doesn't get put out a
1:48:06
tech and they come back and they went in National Championship
1:48:10
070 said that was, as I was 07. Oh my God, 7.
1:48:17
That's all that was 07. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:48:31
Yeah. With a date with a deviant,
1:48:34
right? Yeah.
1:48:35
Yeah, yeah. It was a nasty defense because
1:48:37
nasty of these awkward produced 14 points.
1:48:40
If Marcus Marcus comes back, they're beating Oklahoma.
1:48:43
Their wing than that. I'm telling you, I don't even
1:48:46
gamble that much money. When I gamble, I'm gambling, I'm
1:48:50
going Casino style, I'm putting it on, putting it on the table.
1:48:55
I'm telling you. The other one, is the other one
1:48:57
that behind that is the jury. A Deadman's, if he comes back,
1:49:03
you know, but that's mine. That's what when we talk, that's
1:49:07
what I don't even like talking about it because I feel like, if
1:49:10
you get, if you get Gerard to come back, you get one of those
1:49:14
receivers got back. If not both, you get Bucky and
1:49:17
Isaiah to come back because that defense was nasty, so it's nasty
1:49:22
and 17, probably probably the nastiest defense since that 07
1:49:25
defense that 07 yeah. And then and then the honorable
1:49:29
mention is again a credit to my wife is dead.
1:49:32
This? Why I married the right woman,
1:49:34
bro? Look look, she was like Florida
1:49:37
State national championship game because in that game chiron's
1:49:40
stiff and Ricky Hall, got injured and that change the
1:49:45
complexity game and also the starting safety that year was a
1:49:48
guy we call mookie AKA Reggie Samuel Nick Source had to play
1:49:52
safety. That was a really his natural
1:49:53
position. You know, you be Twinkie in
1:49:56
those guys. I know everyone talks about the
1:49:59
receiver. They had what's-his-name not
1:50:01
coals but you know, Work either War but I think which are on the
1:50:05
way he was running the ball. Rick you know that's a that's an
1:50:07
honorable mention because then you talking about a national
1:50:10
championship that's which is the Ultimate Prize who came up with
1:50:16
these questions. These are these are the these
1:50:18
are good. Listen I'm doing anything during
1:50:21
the summer, I got this up in my head that I want to do it.
1:50:24
What if the episode we got tally?
1:50:26
I want to get like you, I want to get like Chris Coleman who's
1:50:29
an alumni, only got a couple other lumps and I'd say let's
1:50:33
talk about. What if yes, it was talking
1:50:36
about what let's talk about, what if hi Rod was quarterback
1:50:39
in? 2011 OCS, another one, but but
1:50:45
but I'll give you another what if?
1:50:46
But this is more hypothetical, it's hypothetical.
1:50:49
It's about family. Yeah, so I'm just going to say
1:50:52
something you, tell me what you think, Mike, Vick and RPO
1:50:55
system. He says records that will never
1:50:58
be broken. Yeah that's it.
1:51:02
They're good enough to talk about me and Mike me and Mike me
1:51:05
and Mike talked about this to this day like we talked about
1:51:08
like as you saw it was Chip Kelly right?
1:51:10
And you saw it a little bit with morning way and Andy Reid, you
1:51:14
know, I mean you saw what he did with Avant DeSean Jackson McCoy
1:51:19
and I listen man, Mike and he already RPO system.
1:51:23
And today's game the cheat code like I'm I mean listen like it's
1:51:29
just crazy. You know, you know how Mike he
1:51:31
was a cheat, code running the power option, I mean, you know,
1:51:34
he's going to be a cheap. Come on, man, my son.
1:51:37
My son used to roast us when you know he watches, I game on
1:51:40
YouTube or ESPN classic because he was like, hey, yo dawg, y'all
1:51:44
running the ball on Third and six and getting first downs.
1:51:50
That's how much we ran the ball in the 90s but Mike Mike.
1:51:54
And that's how I sold my toe. I told him I said If you come
1:51:57
and check, man, you'll play, you'll take us to the National
1:52:00
chair. I told him this, you take it to
1:52:02
the national championship game and you'll be up for the Heisman
1:52:05
I said, because I offense is that good where it's efficient
1:52:09
but you'll be such a big play maker.
1:52:11
But yeah, being in the arp arp. Oh Mike is Mike, is Sensational
1:52:17
what would future say Sensational?
1:52:20
Yeah. Yeah, I know.
1:52:25
You got to get out. A little bit about spring game
1:52:31
and last year spring game, I'm coming up this year.
1:52:35
I've already made my already made my reservation.
1:52:39
Sir Brian's gonna be there we're going to have Curtis day and
1:52:41
spirit what can we do? What can we expect to see you?
1:52:45
You know the sons of Saturday. Want me to come by that party to
1:52:49
have and I'm just I got to get some more guys for my are it's
1:52:52
gonna be a lot of former players as I told you guys an hour and
1:52:56
change. Go, I'm Goin kid list this year,
1:52:59
so I will tell y'all man. Like, without trying to get
1:53:04
emotional, Virginia Tech is home for me.
1:53:07
It's done so much for my life. I met my wife there.
1:53:10
Friends for life, teammates. I get my best sleep in
1:53:13
Blacksburg. So when I come up on Friday, I
1:53:16
literally just try to get everywhere.
1:53:19
So when y'all hit me and tell me y'all tailgating somewhere, I'm
1:53:22
gonna come over there. Have a drink, you know, chop it
1:53:26
up. Take a Picture with y'all.
1:53:27
So man, I'm a humble guy. I love the love.
1:53:30
I get from all of y'all in the fans.
1:53:32
I get so much. Love is crazy, but the same time
1:53:35
man. Like for me, it's nostalgic
1:53:38
because I helped build something that's bigger than me.
1:53:40
So I got and I'm corny real, I'm corny.
1:53:43
Right. I go by like all my different
1:53:46
apartments. I lived at from Fox Ridge to
1:53:49
drop by and we go, I go to the bookstore way.
1:53:53
I go to the bookstore. I met my wife and I go back to
1:53:56
This View and I talked to everybody, I just see people, I
1:54:01
go to McAdoo's, I go to new listen, New River Valley Mall,
1:54:06
then and now ain't never had nothing for me.
1:54:08
But I going to anyway you know you know so like for me man
1:54:14
those three days. I'm in Blacksburg.
1:54:16
I was up there one time a group of us went up there for this
1:54:19
spring game and it was like, 69 70 degrees on Saturday for the
1:54:24
game and on Sunday morning It was six inches and Counting of
1:54:28
snow that's Tech, right? Yeah.
1:54:30
And we drove back in it and we will find but yeah man you guys
1:54:35
will see me everywhere, man. But I'm just I take it all in
1:54:40
man. Like I I'm still old school
1:54:42
where I go to Hardy's. I go to Hardee's on Saturday
1:54:46
morning and I see all the older golden Hokies with their stuff
1:54:49
on and I go grab me a biscuit or whatever and no people here, go
1:54:55
to hardest be reading the newspaper.
1:54:56
Do you like it was really new for you and Harvey?
1:55:01
Is they do man? I told you he's in South Boston
1:55:05
the same way. Amen.
1:55:16
I love seeing the future. Like I love the fact, I'm still
1:55:20
a relevant but I'm excited about the future and that's why I like
1:55:23
I'm really rooting for Pride to get this right man because So
1:55:27
you guys all know this and when you saw it, when tally held that
1:55:30
postgame, Twitter space after they lost 2-0 to you at one
1:55:34
point that night, he had 320 people on there, right?
1:55:39
Yep, it's great. Little on there.
1:55:41
It's almost 2:00 3:00 in the morning right now.
1:55:43
Here's the thing. Imagine if you get a product
1:55:46
that's worth watching, I wish I was in, I was in FedEx when we
1:55:51
had USC on in Boise State on the ropes, I was there you talking
1:55:55
about 9,000 people look at that, whatever.
1:55:59
Yeah, well that's what happens when you live it.
1:56:05
I'm sorry guys. I get going.
1:56:07
I get passion. I'm so sorry.
1:56:08
No, no, no. Yeah, we just went to hours and
1:56:12
it's been fun. It's been informative.
1:56:14
We love your stories to why we love love, man.
1:56:17
You don't even know. I wish I will be there in spirit
1:56:20
but as a lie and we've said it with Father's.
1:56:24
I've got two kids playing baseball, one kids doing A
1:56:26
school play. I can't leave mama here with the
1:56:29
baby and all the boys doing all that stuff for.
1:56:31
I just can't do it one of those. Yeah.
1:56:56
When they piss you off, man, appreciate that life.
1:56:59
Shout out to my man, Derek Smith, one of my best friend's
1:57:01
battling cancer right now. He got two beautiful daughters.
1:57:05
He called me when he first found out because you know, what hit
1:57:08
him was, he didn't want to lose his be around his not be around
1:57:11
his daughters. So don't worry about, you can't
1:57:14
be to the spring game because you're going to be with your
1:57:17
kids like iíve learned over the years man, to appreciate life.
1:57:22
And my kids, and my friends, and my family more than anything
1:57:25
because the oldies Getting life. The more you realize man at any
1:57:29
moment it could be your last breath.
1:57:31
So you know, saying, hey look and shout out to y'all, man.
1:57:35
I love y'all tally. I'm glad you're adding him
1:57:37
tallies my dude be in cursor. I appreciate this.
1:57:40
You guys know during the last 23.
1:57:43
I jump on here at a comment here.
1:57:46
Hey, I love it. So I didn't man, I appreciate
1:57:48
you. We appreciate you jumping on
1:57:50
giving him the commentary during the other live streams.
1:57:52
And obviously love when you can jump on him, chop it up with us
1:57:55
for two hours. Yeah.
1:57:56
No anytime anytime and keep doing your thing.
1:57:59
I know the VT podcast Community has bananas, man, but the one
1:58:03
thing is most of us rock with each other.
1:58:05
You know I'm saying. Everybody has a different
1:58:07
perspective but at the same time, it's all love man.
1:58:10
I just want us to keep doing it and I can't wait for the day
1:58:13
when we're talking about a conference Championship and the
1:58:16
potential playoff berth, I am so lonely.
1:58:19
I'm so tired of mediocracy. God knows I am.
1:58:23
We all are man. Yes sir, time to get back in.
1:58:26
Callie says he's got this, just this feeling this year since I
1:58:30
got this feeling I got I got some optimism this year man.
1:58:33
Yeah we're with progress that wraps up this episode of D
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