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Episode 251: The Road Not Taken (SG-1 10.13) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get into Gates episode two hundred and fifty one talking Stargate SG. One.
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We are back down, decompressed after a monster, a mammoth milestone if you
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will, episode two hundreds a flagisaurus. I mean only a milestone episode like
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two hundred and fifty could handle the vocabulary that included the word flag of sallus.
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That's not a SoundBite, but now that you've said it cleanly, we
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absolutely can use that coronal mass ejection. That's a good one. This is
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this is my radio announcer voice. I will be doing this episode as a
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radio announcer. Maddie and Brendon High thank you to it as well. They're
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less so flag. But you know you've got lovely flag Salus. You've got
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interest in other areas. He loves the flapp and a salad. I like
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the floe. It gets harder though not just flick it a couple of times,
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you know in ludged click what moving on? We we are here back
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talking some s g one a lot of I mean it's a heavy Carter episode,
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dare we say? And I don't know what that means, if it
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is true, or how I'm summing it up. How Maddie will feel about
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it or how we should feel about it. There but for the Grace of
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God part two or two point zero. Well, it's interesting. I call
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it Arthur's mantle two point h Yeah right, well guess so, yeah,
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I mean last week big episode, two hundred fifty, two hundred and fiftieth
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episode of the podcast. This episode, big episode for Amanda Tapping, Amanda
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tappings two hundreds Oh reallygate episode? Wow? And where would we? How
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long has it been since the two hundredths? Now? So how many she
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even? Well she took those like six off at Yeah, so not a
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lot the road not taken. Let's read the old synopsis from The Lovely the
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Great People, and please, you know, get some work on some new
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bloody Stargate Amazon Besis. We know you'd be at least fallouts first season,
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ye, and yeah, get onto Stargate please, because it's a what does
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it say, it's it's Amazon MGM Studios's you got your own thing going on?
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Come on, come on, it's a you know, it's an you
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bought it as an IP guy. Something. An experiment goes wrong, leaving
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Lieutenant Colonel Samantha Carter trapped in a parallel reality where martial law has been enforced
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and Earth is under attack from the alright, also starring Ben Browder, Christopher
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Judge, and Michael Shanks. Well, I mean, Shanks's not in it,
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and when have they ever put oh my god, skip Judge has one
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thing I skipped where they said Lieutenant Colonel Samanth Carter Amanda Tapping. I'm I'm
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not reading names anymore, but I didn't look ahead. But also it was
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gonna be like, also just laundry' is a dickhead president, you know or
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something like that could have just lauckhead. Yeah, well that's true. I
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mean here we were talking true in any Universe the other week. It's like,
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God, damn this guy. What a great leader, what a fantastic
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leader? Not where does he rank in our favorite leaders of the base And
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here we go it's like, oh, by the way he prayers it it.
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Yeah, Yeah, he's he's like a Kinsey level president in this universe.
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Yeah. So you mentioned that it was a man a Tappings two hundredth
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This is General Hammond's last episode of this series. Yeah, final final episode
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of any Stargate. He actually like passed away about eighteen months after this episode
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aired in real life? How many eighteen months? Jesus, yeah this this
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this aired like January of seven. He passed away in June eighth. Damn
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yeah, oh man, not to bring it down. I mean, yeah,
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we've only got a handful of episodes left. But still it's like,
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oh, this is last one and ah, yeah that sucks. I'm just
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seeing them. I'm glad they got him back for this, and he's given
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that he only lasted another eighteen months. I'm glad they like they got Yeah,
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this is so good. It was so good watching him as the old
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school general hand and that's a great thing. I was guessing taken advice from
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Sam. Yeah yeah, whereas Laundry didn't again Yeah here I was saying the
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other week with the SGA's return Part one and two, that you know,
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I said, look, ifil I thought that was a good out for if
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Onill never showed up again, that was a good farewell to him, even
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though it wasn't his show. Whereas here donas Davis showing up as a different
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Hammond. So it's like his final showing in Stargate or the series is as
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an alternate Hammond. Oh that sucks, but he was still like I felt
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like every even when he was arguing with Carter about the way things are and
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you just don't understand that's what our Hammond would do. Hey, we've got
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people win into ants too, you don't necessarily have all the information. But
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also by the end of it was like, hang on, we promised her
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that we would let her go. Come on, Like he was he was
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as close to feel like an alternate. No, he was the only one
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that didn't feel like an alternate whatever than anybody else that featured this show that
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carries over from the other one. So that was good for him and great,
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just great to see hear his voice again. And it felt like there
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hadn't been that much time passed since the last time we saw him, so
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he had left it. It was last season. It was during the Fourth
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Horseman. Was like, but that was so brief, like he barely got
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a line in that they kind of just and it's funny they kind of that
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when he appeared in The Fourth Horseman that was supposed to be like they were
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going to get the real life head of the Air Force in or whatever to
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do that he became unavailable in this episode. I don't know if he was
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originally planned on being there because originally they were going to get President Hayes back
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in like our you know, and he was going to be president, so
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I would imagine Landry was going to just be a General Landry again, so
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there would have been nowhere for Hammond to be. So I kind of it's
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almost kind of the yeah, it's like a kis meant to be kind of
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thing. That president and that Hayes act was unavailable, so they decided to
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move Landry up to be a dark president, which meant they could get Hammond
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back in, and he just obviously just went, yeah, of course,
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I'll come and play with you guys. I thought it was perfect. Yeah.
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What I what I didn't like is I feel like we spent the first
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half of the episode with him and Lorne and then they both just kind of
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disappear and aren't in the second half of the episode at all. They just
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like Carda just has that sort of little moment where she puts Hammond in her
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place and walks off and that's the last time we see him. It's a
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good moment. It's a great scene, and Cardi gives a great little speech
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with some social commentary, but From then on, it's kind of just her
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versus Landry, I feel like, and then Rodney's introduced and it's all just
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that sort of stuff. And Lieutenant Cam as I like to call him,
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that we had seen with cam Mitchell doing his best Lieutenant Dan. Yeah,
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yeah, apparently, yeah, apparently it's more inspired by Yeah, born on
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the fourth of July, but I just went that's Lieutenant Dan. Yeah.
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Yeah, I think Lieutenant Dan was based on the the Tom Hanks character as
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well. Yeah, plately Tom Cruise sorry, oh yeah. Uh. It
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was finally, like, just on the president thing. When they first mentioned
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him, They're like, I need to talk to the president. He's busy,
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No, he's going to want to hear this, and then they kept
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talking, We're going to see the president, going to see the president.
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I'm like, I don't remember O'Neill being president at any point, but is
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that where we're going? Like that would have been very I mean, you
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couldn't have I don't think you could have a dark president Jack O'Neill. It
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would have just been different on all fronts. I'm glad you bought that up.
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Listen to this, Hey, maybe I could talk to Daniel is he
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here? Doctor Jackson was captured by the forces of you ri I several weeks
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ago. Okay, what about Colonel Mitchell, Cameron Mitchell and three or two
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points went down over in Arcadet, that's right? Is he here? I
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have no idea where he is. The last I heard he quit the military
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till well till going back to the you several years ago. And if you're
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talking about Valamal Duran, I hate to break it to you, but she
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is currently occupying a salary of fifty one. You can't take a stab at
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anyone else, anyone, anyone else, she would ask, at least let
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me see the survellance. No, she's run out of names now. Apologies
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to to three star. But I glanced away for the briefest of seconds when
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she looked at that photo, and she's like, hey, I'm wearing a
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wedding ring. Oh yeah, Now who is she in the photo with with
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him? It was with O'Neill, the photo with Lawn. Oh is that
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why? He's like, oh no, no, no, no, no,
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no. See because I looked away, she's like I want to go,
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oh, yeah, you were married and and and she's like with and
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I thought the divorce, Yeah, they did. She was made to Macay,
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That's what I was thinking they did. Maybe it was I got Yeah,
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after the divorce those two had, like Lawn and Carter had had a
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little something or other after after she divorced me. But yeah, I just
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found it weird that Carter runs through that entire list, including Varla. Yeah,
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not even who doesn't Yeah like tilk who because they didn't have they didn't
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know about Atlantis. Yeah, so we'll we'll get to that a little bit
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later. But it's the dover because I want to just talk about the O'Neil
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thing. The divergence point was Lost City. So the basically the whole difference
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between this universe and our universe is Lost City happened exactly the same, but
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then this universe made the Stargate program public. But everything else still had to
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happen. Varla had to come because they were fighting the Auri as well,
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So Varla and Daniel still had to come and go and do the whole are
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I thing and let the oro I know that we're hit. So all it
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was very weird, And yeah, the commentary gets into that a little bit,
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or even to get to the point where he was taken by the are
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several weeks ago and it's like, oh yeah, shit, that's so it's
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like up until that moment, whereas so much other stuff. Yeah, yeah,
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but I just I just found it weird that like Carter ran off that
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entire list and not one said General O'Neill. Very strange, like they couldn't
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even write a line to say, well, know, he's he was killed,
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he was killed in action, you know, or he could have been
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killed yeah, you know, something like that, or he's still in the
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Antarctica in frozen. Yeah, yeah, perfect fucking that would have been spot
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on, bang done color. Yeah. I just found it weird that,
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Yeah, she she didn't ask for him. They did that. They do
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that a lot, remember Ripple Effect. They didn't have Jack in it at
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all on one team and yeah, Ben Browner, Yeah, but I understand
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that with you know, Richard Dennison physically not being available, but it's like,
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at least give us a line in this episode as to why she didn't
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ask for him given that, and I forgot to mention, it feel like
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they're trying to forget O'Neill for like the part time users, so that they
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didn't yeah, part time viewers. So they didn't get confused, which is
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weird given that he just did a two stint two episodes on Atlantis. But
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yeah, I forgot to mention it two weeks ago. In Line in the
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Sand, there's that whole part where when Carter's dying, she's, oh,
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I've got into my personal database and I've got letters to Daniel, letters to
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my brother, letters to other people, and then she goes the password is
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fishing. Like there's all that heavy handed stuff in Line in the Sand,
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but in here she did program. But in here she didn't even ask for
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a Neil. And I just found that really like sloppy fucking you. Now
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that you hit it out of the park, just them are going, he's
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still he's still frozen down in Antarctica. We can't revive him. Yeah,
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that would have been fucking perfect. Yeah, because the program went public,
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so you know, the whole thing with with Weir and all that kind of
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stuff, you know didn't happen, and you know this that that stuff happened
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differently, maybe because maybe Landry was the general of of SGC and then because
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it was martial law, he's number one. But I mean Hammond is still
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there, so you could almost say, like thet Hammond left at the end
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of Lost City and then Jack became the general, so it's like, yeah,
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what happened to that? So him being frozen in Antacty would have been
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just a perfect bow and you're like great. And then Hammond stayed in command,
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and then Landry never got command of the SGC and somehow got promoted to
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president instead when Marshal Law and stuff came in. I think maybe it was
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only in my head where I was thinking Laundry was the Stargate SGC general,
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and then he decided maybe once Martial Law got taken over, in a way
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it was like, well, you're in charge of the Stargate program, which
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is like the most important, so let's make you the leader. Yeah.
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I guess maybe in the way that like after O'Neill left the like the SGC,
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he became like the general in charge of Stargate operations in general, including
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in Lantis and all that kind of stuff. In this universe they need the
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found Atlantis so there's not lunch. But yeah, maybe it would have maybe
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he just jumped over Hammond because it would be weird. I think you have
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for Hammond to then leave for Landry to come in and then Landry to get
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promoted so quickly and then bring Hammond back in would be weird. But yeah,
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I just you know, given that this episode and the last one is
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you could almost do it as a two parter almost, you know what I
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mean, Like it's all it's two episodes based around Carter fucking around with Arthur's
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Mantle. Or you said there that you would often skip these two episodes,
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right and just go straight from the Quest into the Shroud the Shrouded. Yeah,
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yeah, well like Arthur's Mantle, that's the one where the Carter and
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Ben Browder faces. It was almost identical the opening of those two episodes.
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Yeah, that's that's why I called it Arthur's Mantle two point h Yeah,
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because he went up to the to the observation deck. Yeah, and if
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he'd just stayed there, I mean I did like the one where you like
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he bumped into the force field and that kind of stuff. In the Auto
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commentary they mentioned that for me in it they were considering recreating that that thing
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from Upgrades where Jack runs into the force field at super speeding and with the
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clean rap and it kind of just storts his face. They were going to
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do that and have Browder like bang into that, but they realized they would
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have had to cut into that and then cut away and you would have lost
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the physicality of it. So they just decided not to and I think it'll
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still worked. It was a fun moment. He's very physical. Yeah.
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And then you know Sam not putting the little sign up I thought was a
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great yeah, sorry, very professional. She wouldn't have that constantly do not
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enter. Yeah, yeah, just like open a close sign for her on
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air light exactly, studio door. It was. It was a lot going
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on though, to be like, oh, okay, so this is kind
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of almost a what do they call the Cloverfield Lane movie. It was like
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a spiritual sequel or whatever it was, or a spiritual this is like a
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spiritual cousin to like side yeah McKay and missus Miller. In that alternate Carter
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was doing that same experiment our universe, Rodney was doing to pull energy out
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of a bunch of different universes to you know, recharges EPM and sucked through
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raw rod came through to say, hey, you fucking up our planet,
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Whereas in this one, it's like our Carter was the one that got sucked
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through into that universe and ended up killing her counterpart as it happened. The
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main difference is they were just trying to suck all of the energy out of
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that one universe in in mister and Missus Miller, where is this trying to?
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Oh, that's right, lots of different that's right. I did like
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the touch where it's like they mentioned that like Sam, the only reason sam
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our Sam survived is because she was within a force field and that's how rod
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arrived to us using the personal shield. Yeah, and that was how he
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survived the trip into our universe over in a Ya. So when she explains
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that to Rodney in this universe, he's like, oh, okay, that
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that's pretty amazing. Yeah. I feel like they like kind of glossed over
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the death thing because it started like, oh, you're here, but where's
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ours? Like, yeah, I don't know, like I came in here,
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Oh she was doing this, and we thought there was like this fire,
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but then we you know, or there should have been, but then
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we opened up and you were just sort of standing there and you get dressed
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and everything. Yeah, and it's like, oh, okay, well I
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wonder, oh would she have been transported like just straight to yours. It's
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not how it works. It's like, oh, she could like Slider.
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She's just out there in an ultimate universe, out there somewhere, and who
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knows if I'll ever find her. Maybe she'll have to find her own way
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back. I'll go back to my world, and then maybe card will be
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back in like fifteen years. When she figures out how to do it,
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oh well, and then it was like not spoken about for fifteen minutes.
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Then she goes to meet Rodney, and well, post meeting Rodney because for
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the first scene, she pretended to be that Karter and the next time she
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comes back, she's like, look, I'm actually not her. Nah,
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you have to be looked like her. She's dead. That was a weird
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scene. Oh wrong, lesbian And if she's dead, oh fuck, that's
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so I'm not thinking, oh you're gay? No, what was it?
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No? I just wasn't into having sex with you for like a multitude of
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reason. That's classic Rodney in any universe. It's like, oh, if
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you don't want to have sex with me, you must be a lesbian.
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Yeah, because I'm because I'm Robey McKay freak McKay. Yeah, there's no
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way, not everybody's time. The smartest smartest man in pegas to send me
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accoding to Metti across multiple universes. He's got extra painess and he's Brian.
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Yeah, extra that wrong. Apparently the episode Uh started out as a very
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different concept, though it's interesting how the story came together. Actually, I
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originally just pitched this idea. The original idea that I went pitched Rob was
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that Carter was transferred to another reality kills herself accidentally, and but but it
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doesn't realize immediately because the reality is so close to our own. And then
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uh, And then it takes a few acts for her to or a couple
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acts for her to realize that she's in the wrong, wrong reality, at
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which point they say, well, you're not going anywhere. That then but
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and that, and then that turned into but Rob correctly pointed out that why
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do an alternate reality story if the reality is so similar to our own that
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you know that there's fun of doing an our alternate reality stories? Really to
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see differences right off the bat. Imagine walking around and it was the same
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for a while, and then all of a sudden, it's like, oh,
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the President's come to see you. She's like, oh great, and
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then Andrew walks and she's like, all right, what, like what joke
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is this? Like that would have just been a bit of a bit of
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a trip. But then yeah, then they have to kep up. Yeah,
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like really like anyone he could have been anyone, mister angry. Really,
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I mean, I know the US is currently going through it. It's
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like, so Biden or like, those are your only two options? Again
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again again in eighty both these are the only two humans of age. I'm
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sure there's some smart enough kids that could probably do it, but like over
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eighteen or twenty one, the like these Wow, okay, coincidence. Yeah,
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if only we'd gone with old mate. Who is the other guy that
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didn't make a Bernie? Oh yeah, said he was too Larry David.
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Yeah, Larry David, well, Curbs, he probably could. He could
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do that as a gag. Larry David just pretend he's Bernie, sent us
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down and run for president again. I'm surprised he hasn't gone on SNL one
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done he did? Yeah, excellent, And the jacket where they're being cold
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or something. J Carrey was doing Biden. That's right, I did see
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I don't think one had mate, dude Trump shooting McGee shoot a mcgalvin shooter.
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There's some real meta casting for that, Harry Harry Happy Gilmore too that
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they're making. And they cast Alec Baldwin and shoot him again. But they
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should maybe shoul. They should do like a hockey game against each other,
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yes, fighting each other. Yeah, just something put it on not golf.
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Yeah, I already kicked your ass at golf. And it turns out
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Shoot is a magnificent figure skater, just skates rings he's but he can't skate
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like it's just yeah, because that was always the go, right, He
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couldn't skate for me? Can skate, yeah, he says, first guy
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to ever take a skate off and try to stab somebody. So that guy
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from Mighty Duck, the speed skater doesn't know how to stop. Yeah,
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just like shit, that's what That's what they need, that move. They
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need a Melio Westevez to come in and teach him how to skate. Yes,
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fantastic. Yeah, I actually have zero memory of this episode apart from
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the dress. You are a simple single creature. I need a sound effect.
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I wish, yeah, yeah, I wish. I mean, well,
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I see you. I did this in season three of this episode.
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I set you a picture yesterday of like Amanda tapping. It showed up on
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freaking a Facebook page, Amanda tapping in like a hot pink cowgirl outfit,
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crickets. Not a single one of you fucking reacted to it. Oh sorry,
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Karter in a in a generic dress at a cocktail part, and you're
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like, it was on my eighty six screen inch screen, side boob,
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we are but simple man, eighty six inch screen with your eight six of
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an inch dick, just hard as a rock six yeahsion, we were concenter.
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That seems right. I talked about it in Line in the Sand,
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where I wasn't like a huge fan of like Carter fucking like Cutter fucking with
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the Arthur's mental technology to like who she fucking well Rodney obviously, and maybe
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a lesbian who knows like taking the whole town out of out of phase,
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taking the whole planet out of phase. There's just the town one didn't work
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last week? Now are you doing the planet? Yeah, it's just the
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line the power across the congent of the United States being funneled to Antarctica.
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Yeah, yeah, they got a couple of we diverted it to the SGC.
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Yeah, because that's how wiring works. You can just flip the switch
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because there's obviously just a wire running from the the United States to Antarctica to
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power the chair. Landry's president here. Man, They're electrics were social high
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speed fiber optics. Absolutely. I just taking a whole planet out of phase
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is just stupid. Aligned Like it was dumber than flying the cargo ship through
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the planet. Oh the thousands, I loved flying the cargo ship through the
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planet. That was fantastic. With the asteroid connected. Yeah, anything about
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it? Now? That was Merlin's device, right, He created a device
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that can kill ascended ancients, the most powerful weapon in the entire known universe,
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the sun graal. He has to hide that from other extended ancients.
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He goes, all I need is a keyboard that creates a field about the
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size of the room for me to hide my research cardigoes. Let's fucking put
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some twenty two's on it and the eight and you know what, we're getting
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an entire fucking planet disappear. Don't you think that if the power that we
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thought we needed states, Yeah, so if we can't we can't create ZPM
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level power definitely too. We can't. We can't create ZPM level power to
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make a five second connection to uh the Atlantis like Atlantis. But we've got
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enough power just from the United States power grid to take our entire planet out
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of phase using ancient technology. Don't you think if that was necessary, Merlin
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would have thought of it. Merlin could have just hid an entire planet to
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do his research to create the sangraal, to hide it from fucking omnipotent beings
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who can call down lightning strikes. You know what I mean, that's what
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And I just find it seems like overkill. It find it's strange that that
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doing that, or I can't beat it? Yes, why not yet the
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ancient slash or I gave that in wristband form to the so damn Yeah,
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exactly what the whole cloaking thing of these two series that I don't like?
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Yeah, you got home and running. He's in the control ship. He
24:19
saw a planet disappear and went, job's done. Boys, let's go.
24:22
Yeah, didn't double check. Now it must be gone. We can't sense
24:26
like the gravity forces are still there now they're hidden. Gravity forces are differently
24:33
what I would have liked is when they said all the Ari ships are,
24:37
you know, separating and moving around the planet. I'm like, that's good.
24:38
Like they're obviously like trying to destroy air Force air Force one Area fifty
24:44
one, but I would have liked if they're going to I'm sure one of
24:48
their ships could have destroyed Area fifty one on its own. Otherwise, just
24:52
send the ships around and all aim at the planet and destroy the planet right
24:56
with they're big beams. I would have loved for like them to have shot
25:00
they and they make the planet disappear and those but they just end up like
25:03
all killing each others projects. Yeah, that would have been cool and that
25:07
could have been the big finale for the episode. But that, like the
25:10
a I thing almost kind of like happened halfway through the episode, and the
25:12
rest of the episode was just arguing with with mister angry. Yeah, and
25:18
like you've been there for a day, mate, you can't get involved in
25:21
politics? Yeah she has on TV. She's like, you know what's wrong
25:23
with this planet and the country. So well, hey, I know we
25:26
like to take America and try to americanize like other planets in your universe.
25:32
But like also kind of shut up a little bit, like listen to Hammond
25:36
where he's like, you don't understand how bad things got know it was crazy,
25:41
It actually was crazy. It's amazing what Lansry did and like, yeah,
25:44
I get it, you don't like his eyebrows, Yeah, but went
25:47
over it. That would be a massive way that this show could chow.
25:48
They bring it back on Amazon, And what's one way to really blow things
25:53
open? Have the sg s or that the Stargate program, the knowledge of
25:57
aliens be a public but it's almost it's almost too limitless that how that would
26:06
change the storytelling? Like you couldn't just have that happen and like after three
26:08
or four episodes, just go back to Exploration of the week, yeah,
26:12
and pretend like the rest of the planet isn't because I mean that absolutely Why
26:17
wouldn't every other planet be like you've got alien tech? Sorry what you've got
26:21
that shit? And like everyone running around the sky's falling like twenty joys everyone,
26:26
ye oh no, we sent an email around yeah or something? Did
26:30
you not get I think I think they did. I think if they did
26:34
a new Stargate show, I would almost want it to be almost like a
26:38
twenty ten style thing where it's like, yeah, like you can just there's
26:41
a small coalition of like we've moved past, like people going their reaction the
26:47
discovery and the reaction. We've all accepted it there, you know, and
26:49
we live in this little coalition where it's like, yeah, sure, you
26:52
can't just go to any planet you want, but it's like, you know,
26:56
you can. You can travel to I guess not to car anymore.
27:00
You can travel to the Jafar where the Jafar are hanging out. You can
27:02
go and hang out with the Knocks or whatever. And we're just we've got
27:04
this small group of things and we can have other conflicts. But yeah,
27:07
I think I'd hate to think that, you know, twenty years later,
27:11
we're still like the SGC is still hiding it from the general population, given
27:15
that at this point, like even just now, we have every single person
27:18
involved in the SGC that knows about it, every single person or Atlantis that
27:22
knows about it. By the time Universe comes around, there's everybody involved in
27:25
Universe that knows about the disgrunt. There's got to be people that have been
27:30
fired by the Yeah, Cavanava, Kavanas Yap Yap Yap and down the bar
27:33
like fucking Jake Gillen Hawley spider Man, no way home. What a great
27:38
reference. I get what he's going for. He's angry at his old boss.
27:42
He would absolutely like try and tear the institution down. Yeah, yeah,
27:47
yep, yeah, so yeah, I don't know. And they never
27:51
seem to explain how Sam actually gets back. In the end, she's like,
27:55
oh, yes, that was annoy because it was impossible, right because
27:59
she had she has. She has a phone call with doctor Lee and he
28:03
says there is no way to recreate the experiment without the under control both sides
28:07
of the wormhole. Bill tell me how good news. The preliminary simulations were
28:15
a bust. There's just no way we can replicate the conditions that originally brought
28:18
you here, not unless we can control the environment on both sides of the
28:22
bridge. All right, I'll be back tomorrow. But she figured out them.
28:27
Well, what would have been really nice is for is for our doctor
28:33
Lee to think what might have happened potentially and then create the scenario in Carter's
28:41
lab for our doctor Lee, just thinking out of the box. All right,
28:45
all we have to do is this, if we set this up for
28:48
Carter it gives her the opportunity to get to get will we'll, we'll,
28:52
We'll give her the Lincoln logs, but she's got to build the cabin.
28:55
Yeah. Yeah, I think it'd be a very lee thing to do if
28:59
when our card or even by mistake, while he's figuring out how she's how
29:03
fast she got on tiny legs. Yeah, whoa, I couldn't think of
29:08
anything, so I just set up exactly what you had done, and while
29:11
I was trying to figure out what to do next, you returned like that
29:15
very dear bill by being a fuck tar. That'd be a very doctorly thing
29:18
to do. Yeah, yeah, I loved it because yeah, it's kind
29:22
of just like she has the big conversation with President Angry. He basically says,
29:30
fuck off, you're so like ineffectual, you will do what I take
29:33
And then the next little next scene is her walking with guards walking her into
29:38
like the lab and alternate Rodney's there going, oh, by the way,
29:42
thanks, you told them that ultimately could do this thing that the dead you
29:45
was trying to do. Now they've basically forced me into doing it. She's
29:49
like, well, with your help, I can get home. Okay,
29:52
No, no, no, no, no, like that's I'm like,
29:56
that's such a weak ass ending, And there's even like a weird Oh yeah,
30:02
it's Rodney that actually says that Angry's decided to let her go. Well,
30:07
the first order of business is to create an inter universal bridge, something
30:11
that I've done in another reality. Apparently, are you serious, m Yeah,
30:15
I'm not sure what you said, but they're letting you go. Wow,
30:19
are you smoster realize in more trouble than I'm worth? Amber I said
30:22
the same thing the day we got divorced, and then yeah, off screen,
30:29
they just figure out a way to get a home. Yeah, it's
30:32
a bit lazy. Yeah, it's something simple like that. Would it actually
30:36
would have taken less time for them to explain about Lee setting up the conditions
30:41
for her to return. Yeah, because there's going by everything that we were
30:45
given through that episode, she can't be back. Yeah. Bill literally says
30:51
it unless unless we can control both sides, there's no way. Because even
30:56
in McCain and Missus Miller Rodd says that was I knew I was coming here.
31:00
I knew I was going to do it one way, and then Rodney
31:03
figured out a way. But it's like that was the whole episode is then
31:06
figuring out the way to make it. They needed two McKay's and a miller
31:10
to make it, to make it all happen, and then like this other
31:14
like tech you know, fucking Elon Musk McKay he's just like, well,
31:19
you told them an alternate version of me could do it, so now I
31:22
have to figure out a way to do it. Thanks. You realized when
31:26
they call him a dot com millionaire, it's weird how many like technically Elon
31:32
Musk was a dot com millionaire, but you don't think of him like that
31:34
anymore because he's a dot com billionaire. Well, remember back then, it
31:40
was kind of like, ah, he did it the easy way. Remember
31:42
it was like submissive, it was an easy way. It was like one
31:48
of those dot com Yeah, it's it's it's not something that's gonna last.
31:52
Yeah, it's a fad. It's a dot com million belt down in a
31:59
couple of years and he'll be poor again. It'll be fine, and the
32:01
next is a billionaire. And like Bezos is the same thing. These guys
32:06
are so hard hitting, heavy. Yeah, that's like like Taylor Swift,
32:09
she's just a pop star billionaire. Yeah, you know that's not a thing.
32:14
Though. She'll piss it all. She'll piss it all up the walls.
32:15
She'll be fine. Donna's age should be destatute. No, she charges
32:22
her fans crazy, and you hear that. Guys like Maddie can be objective.
32:28
Absolutely. You know she is a fantastic business woman. Yes, she's
32:31
a very creative songwriter. I just don't think she sings very well. Okay,
32:37
okay, yeah, I didn't know that. That's what I don't think.
32:38
I would say, look controversial, get brave. I think Katie Perry
32:44
is a better vocalist, then you're what Taylor Swift is. Taylor Swift is
32:51
a much better songwriter. Taylor Swift can write a song She's like I'm heartbroken.
32:55
Bang. She can write that eight hundred different ways, and she has
32:59
I used to have a boyfriend and now I don't. Is basically every single
33:02
one of her songs, and she has, She's been billions of it.
33:06
So yeahs a business woman, she's incredible. Yeah. Well, like Brenda
33:08
said, she charges an absolute maltzer. Yeah. The last twelve months right
33:13
selling out stadiums, then released tickets. The ticket prizes are outrageous. Yeah,
33:20
Yeah, and then for like a city like us. She didn't come
33:22
to our city when she came to Australia. So they said, the the
33:25
economy in Sydney and Melbourne over those two weekends was so like it was the
33:31
boost that it received of people flying in staying at the hotel. Oh my
33:37
god, incredible. I would love I would love every swifty to just go
33:39
back and watch the Josey the pussy Cats movie and then just look at yourselves
33:44
and take a step back. Okay, interested heard what is it joson the
33:49
Pusscats movie? One so good? Tara Reid, Rachel Lee Cook, and
33:55
Rosario Dawson. It was Rosario. Yeah, God, that's all surprise.
34:00
The other week when you were talking about racially Cookie like yeah, and I
34:04
was like, no, mention, No, I probably I probably did,
34:07
because I've seen posters of that movie since then. I'm like, yeah,
34:09
she was still very attractive then, but I think at the time I would
34:13
have been, what fifteen in two thousand and one, I was very much
34:15
racially cooked was very much my time. She looked great at that. No,
34:19
I think you like it. It's like it's just this real subtle social
34:21
commentary about just like the brainwashing that like pop culture does on people and they
34:25
just they'll just you stay up a brand on something and people will just buy
34:29
it. They were literally brain literally mean it's really good, Jason. The
34:32
Pitscats is like they live in the like Scooby Doo and Sabrina Universe. No,
34:37
ris A Riverdale and Sabrina Universe. Oh yeah it was an old yeah
34:42
yeah, from the from the comic book. But they're like a little a
34:44
little band, like a three chick, three piece rock band. I think
34:47
you like it. It's good. It's very two thousand, that's fift thing.
34:52
Like I just couldn't get like you're selling all those concerts, people buying
34:54
tickets or they've seen the show, and then you release a movie that's a
34:59
documentary. It's just it's just a concert. I didn't think it was a
35:00
documentary. It was just a concert movie. See he going, what pay
35:05
to watch the same concert again just from a closer vantage point and then if
35:09
you're in Australia, then you would go and watch the concert from a poor
35:14
advantage point that you went and paid to see at the cinema. And then
35:19
they released on Disney Plus the concert a different It was the Taylor's version of
35:24
the same concert. You know what, it had four extra songs. So
35:28
it's already a two and a half three hour documentary or a movie on the
35:31
on the concert, but then you would go and watch it again, okay
35:35
for free on Disney. But still on top of all the money, like
35:37
everyone spent to have to travel to the places that she performed, didn't she
35:40
does a worldwide tour and then comes to two cities in Australia April because the
35:45
stadiums aren't big enough. Yeah, and that's what the Olympics. We've got
35:50
a lot of controversy going on here in Brisbane when you can do three Melbourne
35:52
shows especially only did one, didn't she? No, No, she did
35:55
like three or four. She's played Brisbane before. Yeah, she played some
36:04
call Yeah, like she played Hamilton Cops. She played Hamilton Island. We
36:08
flew up with Linda Hamilton Island. Red Room from our radio company is like
36:13
an intimate set. We we'd have a concert where you don't invite forty people,
36:15
and then we've had like the Red Room at the Opera House where we
36:19
had ed Sheer and fly Out and play in front of you know, two
36:21
thousand or whatever it might have been. But then we had like a handful
36:24
of people where we sent you up to Hamilton Island to watch like the most
36:27
intimate Taylor Swift gig. But that was when she was like, oh she's
36:30
got a couple of good songs. Yeah, I love love story. Now
36:31
it's like she's the biggest fucking superstar on the planet. You can't touch that
36:36
woman. But great business. Yeah, she's getting way too much airtime.
36:42
Yeah, that's all right. Some of it's been cut out, most of
36:45
it, perhaps because I would say the last in the last couple of months,
36:47
you know, I would say, Taylor swis Scott more air time this
36:50
podcast than Star Trek has and that I will not stand for. There's got
36:53
to be a bit from one of her songs. That's one, you know,
36:59
like she's count of the reasons why she hates Jake, Jillnal or some
37:01
ship. I don't know mate, Yeah, sorry, yeah, those blokes
37:09
are pigs. Yeah. There is a goof in this, God You've gone
37:14
woke. There's a goof in the continuity in this in the alternate reality send
37:20
it, we have the external shot of Cameron Mitchell's building. He's stuck in
37:27
a wheelchair, wheelchair wheelchair a walk up. That's why the government did That's
37:36
why he's so dirty and greasy out there. He can't get out and shower.
37:40
That was such a weird scene. I don't it didn't make sense.
37:45
He didn't further the plot, no at all changed the freedom. Looks like
37:52
it was what changed their mind to play ball. But yeah, but then
37:53
she goes, I'll play ball. But then she didn't. But she didn't.
37:55
I thought she used that because she knew the guy to see service guy
38:00
was she is, where are you? You know exactly where I am,
38:02
by the way, I'm going to play ball, and it's a good idea.
38:06
I think she went there to have a chat with VAM to convince them
38:09
that she whether or not she knew that Cameron had done the same thing already,
38:13
or she just went to see him trying to get some kind of familiarity,
38:16
and then through that, through that meeting went oh, I need to
38:19
tell them that I will do it so that I can get in a public
38:22
situation like they put her in because they fell for it and they needed her
38:24
to do a sit thing. And I mean they cut her off line.
38:28
But when did she have the punch on in the car park. Then I
38:30
thought that was when she left Lieutenant cam No, no, she because that
38:35
when she left camp. She immediately walked down the stairs, not the ramp,
38:37
and called up the secret Service guy and said I'll play ball. And
38:40
then it cut to the next scene, which I think was the television studio.
38:44
So the punch on after I think was maybe she was leaving the television
38:46
studio. Maybe they picked her up Landry. Is the gag really necessary?
38:52
They're like, oh, you have no idea? She would not shut up?
38:55
Yeah, just silencing women. That's how you know she was spoiling all
39:00
of our favorite shows. Apparently there are three episodes ahead on Her Earth.
39:04
What's really funny though, is when they filmed that, there was just like
39:08
just generic public crowds in there because they were out on location and it was
39:13
a very humbling experience for them, but there was a crazy crowd of people
39:17
watching and they're all lined up against the library. This woman comes up to
39:22
me and she goes, what are you shooting? And I said an episode
39:24
of Stargutness do you want? And she goes, Oh, where's the actor?
39:30
That would be me? She's like, who are the others. That
39:35
was very funny. I remember telling me about that. People wonder why our
39:37
cast is so humble. That's hilarious. I think, like not even in
39:44
Canada. Yeah, film there, Yeah, Lincoln, he's my brother.
39:50
Been on the show if you needed the podcast or something whatever. He's an
39:52
actor and I've seen like him walk around and he goes to somewhere in public
39:55
whatever and someone will can't to because other people get photos with him. Someone
39:58
can't and say, oh, do you like can I get a photo?
40:00
And then they'll get a photo with him, and then they'll ask him what
40:04
he does. So they just like it's that they absolutely are and they're like
40:09
harder capital yeah, like really like I'm not even supersibility just like yeah,
40:16
like even the d nd S is like, oh, I don't know if
40:20
we can help you. There's not enough funding. Yeah, we don't have
40:23
enough budget. But you can't fix stupid. Yeah whatever you've got, there
40:29
are people that need our help. You're just you're not You're just a mouth
40:31
breather. I don't because because I have a block. No, no,
40:38
when I when I go to sleep, I'm literally I've got a mad deviated
40:42
septum. And poll ups and all kinds of ship. I would breathe through
40:45
my mouth at night. It's a medical condition. It is mouth breather.
40:47
Is just they're not They're not like medically socially the functionally softer not harder.
40:58
Okay, yeah, like that. I'd liked LRN as SG one leader.
41:05
I feel like they've really missed out on like an SG two counter team or
41:08
like you know where you need backup? They go, oh, send the
41:13
Marines, like bring SG two like you would. It would be nicely if
41:15
we had known SG two, if he, if Lorne was head of SG
41:20
two, that would have been nice if someone what I think the point is
41:23
the reason card, like Lorn's over on Atlantis. I think that that's only
41:30
the only reason they Broughtady, meaning is because it's like she was like,
41:31
you're not supposed to be here, You're supposed to be in the pegasas Galaxy.
41:34
Yeah no, I get that. But what I'm just saying is,
41:37
well, why did it have to be SG one? I liked I liked
41:39
the chemistry between him being the leader of SG one, which in my head
41:44
is just a secondary team anyway, So if he was in charge of SG
41:49
two and then he was the backup for the team. What I'm saying is
41:52
it would have been nicer for them to have a secondary team where you get
41:55
you get to know the characters more. Oh yeah, in like the earlier
42:00
seasons. Yeah, I guess. I guess his team would have been more
42:05
involved if he didn't die. Yeah, Yeah, and we don't. I
42:07
think what Reynolds is the is the leader of what s G two or SG
42:10
three like that, the Marine Unit or whatever. They're the ones that came
42:14
up with SOD. But he's been in like three episodes. I feel like
42:17
they kind of do what you're saying with Lawn in Atlantis kind of like because
42:22
he is kind of like the the s the SR or whatever team to wait
42:28
team too for Atlantis. Yeah, the Renolds thing is interesting because I mean,
42:31
obviously the Lawn thing works because you want to bring him, you want
42:34
to keep him on Earth because he never went to Atlantis. But the Reynolds,
42:37
like he's the like Marines. I can't is he the guy with the
42:42
massive chin. Reynolds he was the one that started at at Area fifty one
42:50
back in like season four, and then they gave him off. Yeah,
42:54
and then they're the ones that wear Camo, but then they wear the tan
42:58
boots boots all the time. Yeah, I'm just thinking if he was the
43:02
leader of SG one because because of the martial law, because of how things
43:06
had changed and they were much more of a like it was much more of
43:08
a war scenario over the last couple of years on this Earth, that they'd
43:13
taken their military leader, their marine type or action SG number three, They've
43:20
taken that leader and put him into SG one. Because no, this isn't
43:22
just an exploratory sort of unit with science people like you Jackson, like your
43:28
Carter. We need someone who's going to actually go there, like a like
43:30
a Stargate movie. Jack O'Neill, you're there. You're there to detonate the
43:35
one, l O'Neill, Yeah, one, You're there to detonate the bomb
43:37
and sacrifice yourself. You're not over there to negotiate. You are there to
43:39
kill some motherfuckers. So, but the Lawn thing obviously works because it feeds
43:45
into the idea that Atlantis has never discovered that I know what it is.
43:49
I just like that character. I feel like Lawn. Yeah, I like
43:52
it. Amanda Tapping was apparently very taken with him in the Auto company.
43:54
She's like, he's just so attractive. Is that a notere? She's like,
44:00
oh, such so good to look at, calm down, love,
44:04
a husband and a kid at home, relaxed. What I what I did
44:07
like about this episode is they the production and you're like the whatever old mate
44:14
was double daughter or whatever that says we hate on the show too much.
44:17
Even the people who make the show are making the same kind of comments we
44:21
were making. Yeah, with the whole clip thing, like the clip,
44:24
the clip thing, the dragon during the quest, the case and point from
44:30
me was the quest, remember with the dragon, imagining a dragon to be
44:37
about five hundred times bigger than what I actually ended up being in the show,
44:39
more like a dragonflygon exactly what sound my son? Look, it's a
44:46
dragonfly. Instead they had that big Andy mcketa's son is even saying, Dad,
44:53
that dragon on your show was ship? Is that kid? White one?
45:00
And hate just white hate, just eight year old white hate. Because
45:04
you're like, in Game of Thrones you've seen dragons, Oh they're big,
45:07
and then well you've seen sorry, yes, we've explained that. The women
45:13
to the women community explained that. Then the woman's on the House of the
45:17
Dragon, where that big fucker shows it dwarfs the other dragons not a dragon,
45:25
sorry women other one house of Woman's obviously. Yeah, you imagine like
45:34
between the end of Game of Thrones and the start of House of the Dragon
45:37
that they had actually had to come out and apologize and I'm so sorry they're
45:39
actually Wovans and they had to rename the show and change the entire backstory.
45:44
Yeah, they not to put that this is a fantasy and that in this
45:46
world, in this are actually all dragons. Doesn't matter. They go back
45:50
in the same way they had to paint out the guy and the jeans and
45:52
couple that kind of stuff. They go back and digitally alter every single scene
45:55
where so it's it's Calici going where are my whither? Where are myans?
46:01
I am the mother of WANs. Hey. I hate to bring it up,
46:10
but I'm gonna anyway. There was a moment at the start of this
46:15
episode with Carter, and it I very much connected with her in this moment,
46:22
tell me Brendan's connected before. It very much felt like anytime I'm in
46:27
this room. It took me back to like twenty ten when I'm trying to
46:30
explain things poorly at least, he admitted a couple of weeks ago, when
46:35
I was trying to explain simple things like carab disgusting things. Yeah, I
46:40
actually that they're actually not so bad. Yeah, I felt like Carta very
46:45
much in this moment. I've experienced what Carter is experiencing. There you go,
46:49
No, no, this is different. Look. According to m theory,
46:52
there are a fixed number of alternate dimensions existing in the parallel with our
46:55
known universe. The multiverse theory, on the other hand, posits the existence
47:00
of an infinite number of alternate universes, each evolving concurrently with our own.
47:05
Was there a universe out there somewhere? Where are You're giving me a straight
47:07
answer? If only we had that grab Yeah, yeah, no, I
47:15
feel your I feel your Krter just the sigh of exasperation at the end she
47:19
had they just and not a Martain Ghiro side, which was great. It
47:24
was a real side that Amanda Tapping chose to put in herself, which was
47:28
fantastic. And the other really upsetting part about this episode just from a production
47:34
point of view, this is another those weird episodes. It was shot in
47:37
little chunks over like four months of this episode, just little bits and pieces
47:40
here and there to the point where that final scene with Amanda Tapping and McKay
47:46
or sorry, what's the actors thet David Hewett, Hittmanta Tacking, that final
47:53
scene where they're in the lab, that was actually filmed on the very last
48:00
day of shooting of Stargate Ever, so Amanda Tapping had to shoot that scene,
48:06
really change outfits and go and film the very very last shot from Unending,
48:13
which anyone who's seen the special features or knows, you know, the
48:15
final episode of this series, what that shot was. It was a very
48:20
emotional day. It was a very emotional day for these people. Amanda Tapping's
48:24
very last day of work. Ever, she had a film that last scene
48:29
and after the Unending, No, she's filmed this then when filmed that,
48:32
they scheduled it. So with Unending, the very last shot of the final
48:38
episode is the last thing they ever filmed on the show. That's good,
48:43
but yeah, she had to basically in her mind go back to episode thirteen
48:47
of an alternate version Carter or Carter in an alternate reality talking to her an
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alternate mackay that she was married to at some point that thinks she's a Lesbian
48:55
then had to go and get a costume change and go and film the very
48:59
very live Seed of Stargate that at the time they thought they would ever shoot
49:02
because they didn't know about Ark of Truth or Continuum yet at that point.
49:06
Yeah, right, yeah, that would be so rough. That would be
49:09
so rough. Yeah, I'm just trying to wrap my head around that,
49:12
like imagine there had been done the dickish thing and be like, I'm so
49:15
sorry because of you know light. You know, You've got a film Unending
49:19
first, and I don't remember what the last show. I remember the episode,
49:22
and I remember how sad it is, and there's so many great moments,
49:28
but I don't remember the last shop, but still do a film that
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and then go, okay, now to go back and film episode thirteen here.
49:35
Yeah, I'm not going to spoil anything, but in the special features
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four un Ending, during that last scene, they had to change some of
49:42
the writing because Christopher Judge literally couldn't get out, and indeed, because he
49:47
was crying so much, they had to change the lineup so that he was
49:51
at the back of the of the raking shop because you could see his eyes
49:54
swelling and all the red around his eyes from crying him like they were so
49:58
emotional to be after ten years to be wrapping up this show. Given that
50:02
they were wrapping it up, it was less emotional about nine to eleven.
50:07
What a bastard. I mean, he probably wouldn't cry nowadays, now that
50:10
he and Shanksy don't get along, he would have just been like, as
50:13
fine, yeah, how weird. Yeah, I blame Shanksy. I see
50:19
Michaels is my man racial. No, he's Canadian, so it's fine.
50:23
That's that's I'm half American, so I can't So you're racist. I guess
50:30
I'm a wide American not siding with the black American. Chris Judd, No,
50:34
you're right, I'm spot on half racist. Yeah, our favorite accidentally
50:39
racist and half racist. Good excellent. And the the Varla hug. The
50:47
Varla hugg, Oh yeah, that was that was improvised. That was something
50:51
that Claudia Black brought to the She just decided to do that. No one
50:54
knew about it, she just decided to do it. They mean you will
50:57
keep that in. I liked demanded Tapping's reaction. Hmmm, yeah, that
51:02
was quite wholesome. I like the hug was nice. The run back,
51:06
I didn't like the run back. Yeah, I just the thing for me
51:08
that was was that we really did miss you, Samantha. But I was
51:12
like, you just give them the hug. Yeah, the hug was enough.
51:14
You didn't need to say. Yeah. Yeah, maybe they spoke some
51:17
real hard truths. Well she wasn't in the room. Well maybe it was
51:22
just just circling back to the whole lesbian thing. Yeah, well I never
51:25
found McKay thought she was. Yeah. The the the deleted scene is it's
51:30
actually that that whole scene just happened in McKay's head and they that's when they
51:35
start taking clothes off and it becomes that scene from Avenger two point zero where
51:38
Carter and the and that little blonde scientist start start wrestling, and then McKay
51:45
and and Felder were just in there watching it. I don't care O'Neill and
51:49
McKay, O'Neill and Felder, Yeah, they're just watching it. I mean,
51:52
speaking of Maddie, you've got this just unlabeled. How can I help
51:55
you? Well, this is going to come as a bit of a shark,
51:59
but I'm not who you think I am. Oh my god, you're
52:02
a lesbian, that's what you're trying to McKay no, because I just I
52:07
think I thought her very It's funny how she's calling him McKay Yeah, yeah,
52:14
like he would have been. At first, she says, Hi,
52:15
Rodney, thanks for seeing me, and I'm like that seems yeah, like
52:20
she was trying she dropped the charade. Yeah, yeah, where She's like,
52:23
well, I guess that's sighed you. Why are you calling him by
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my last name? We've been married. How jealous is our university? Oh
52:30
my god? That would be the one thing she's ever learned in her life
52:34
that she would try to forget the most, like just in case she accidentally
52:37
told McKay one that in an alternate universe they were married and he was a
52:43
millionaire. And mackay just goes, so, you're telling me there's a chance
52:46
you'd leave out you'd leave that bit out of your report when you Yeah,
52:52
so how did you get back? I just met some boke I've never met
52:54
before with like actually don't remember his name anyway, he helped me. End
52:58
of stories. All that information wouldactuh miche lad, did you notice something for
53:04
you in the auto commentary? You always have a lot of fun with uh.
53:07
The director's name sometimes like Carl Binderbinder, Andy Mkeita. Sometimes you have
53:14
fun with well, i'd say from the context cluses, I think they have
53:21
they have fun with that on on set as well, because as I'll wrapping
53:24
up the episode, Amanda Tapping called Annie Mkeita Akuna mccartera. She's like,
53:30
thanks for mccatter, so I'm assuming that's what he must be called on set.
53:34
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