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- Jogo: before we start the show, there are some spoilers in this episode, some movie spoilers for Heaven Knows What, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mine, Wolf of Wall Street, The Graduate, The Substance, Wayne's World 2, Simpsons episode called Lady Bouvier's Lover, and then Anora So with that said, enjoy the show. Welcome to Best Most, where we ask the questions, what is the best and what is the most? I am your host, Jose Jogo Gonzalez. In this show, we ask the questions like Who is the best dog hero in a movie? Or who is the actor turned singer, musician, or band? and if you want to be part of the conversation on future episodes, follow us on Instagram at best.most.pod. That's where I randomly post the best most questions as stories. You submit your answers and then a guest and I will discuss yours and other community answers on the best .most podcast. join the conversation. Okay, so today I want to welcome a comedian, an artist really. He has an interesting approach to comedy that you definitely need to experience. And he will be joining us for two episodes. I would like to welcome Tony Bartoloni. Tony. Tony: How's it going? Jogo: Good, good, good. are you doing? Tony: Good. Jogo: Fantastic. So let's get into it. Tony came up with a question. What movie caused you to have the most intense reaction? Tony, why did you choose choose this question? Tony: I guess it just seemed interesting, have had pretty intense reactions to certain movies. I know I feel like that's not that often talked about. Jogo: Good point. we're gonna go into community picks. Tony, feel free, Tony: Okay, Sean E. Zilt on Instagram said hereditary and also Alan Is Instagram handle is Alonstagram. Alonstagram. he said hereditary also. Jogo: Nice. And have you seen Hereditary? Tony: I haven't seen hereditary for for that because that because of that. 'Cause I don't wanna have an intense I'm scared to watch it. Jogo: But y are you into scary movies? Tony: not really, no. Jogo: okay. Tony: I don't I don't like them. They f they really and they have the oppor they have the ability to fuck me up. So I I used to have night terrors when I was a kid and I wasn't I wasn't allowed to watch scary movies. so I never really got into Jogo: Okay. Okay. Tony: I've seen very few. Jogo: Cool, cool. Yeah. Tony: I've seen Evil Dead two, Jogo: that's a good one. Tony: versus Freddie versus Jogo: that's a good one. Tony: Jason. Jogo: So more like comedy with horror kind of thing. That's cool. Tony: Yeah. Yeah, I've watched I watch a lot of comedies. Jogo: Nice. And then you have one more community answer, correct? Tony: Yeah, Sean Sean again said uncut gems. Jogo: Uncut jums? Nice. as far Tony: Which I I did see that. I saw it I saw it with my sister and her husband on the day before Christmas or something. It was came out around Christmas time, I remember. Jogo: So I guess in regards to the question, it says, you know, what movie caused you to have the most intense reaction? I mean, as far as like uncut gems, I I think that movie is very much like a a super intense movie. There's a lot of movement, a lot of Tony: Yeah. Jogo: like kind of hyper energy in that movie. So I I totally see how that could be someone's answer. Tony: I would say, yeah, this most all the Stafty Brothers movies are like that, I think. I would say Heaven Knows What. Have you seen that one? one of their earlier Jogo: Nah. Tony: It's one of their earlier Jogo: Nah. Tony: That one gave me that I had a really intense reaction watching that. I mostly felt very sad though. Like it was devastating. it's about a homeless woman basically her day to day life, but she like the beginning of the movie, she gets out of the hospital from trying to kill herself. That's how it starts. Jogo: well. Yeah, they they also Tony: And then yeah. Jogo: seem kinda bleak in general. like Marty Supreme is is pretty bleak a lot pretty much too. Tony: Which I think I saw it also came out on Christmas. I saw right after Christmas. Jogo: Damn. for the listener too, I know Tony from one of our our mutual friends, Francis Bubba, Bubba Master and we kind of met I think we met at like a at a party or something like that, maybe. I I think at someone's birthday party. Tony: That sounds like it Jogo: I think at someone's birthday Tony: That sounds like Jogo: party. Tony: it could have happened Jogo: But what I think what's cool is since then, like you and I will kind of like talk on Instagram here and there and kind of like share thoughts on movies. Tony: Yep. It's yeah, nice to have people to do that with for sure. As I get older Jogo: yeah. Tony: and people have children and stop watching movies. Jogo: So let's see. I'm gonna go into my community answers. Feel free to interject at any time. Let's see. the Jason, he chose Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, which is very good. I think that re the reaction would probably be grief in general, you know, thinking about past breakups. and I think I had watched that movie right after a breakup, which I did feel pretty horrible after, Tony: Yeah, I I did Jogo: it felt like Tony: too. Jogo: really? Tony: the first time I watched it, yeah, I've seen it many times. Almost watch it yearly in the winter time. Jogo: well. Tony: but sometimes I'm too sad. Or it I don't want to get sad, so I don't but but I've seen it quite a few times. And actually have a line in my stand up about I'm talking about like emotionally unavailable women and I say if her favorite movie is Eternal Sunshine of the spotless mind, run run the fuck away. Get out of there. Jogo: Ha. Tony: Cause that I had two women back to back. it was their favorite movie. And they were both pretty messed up. So Jogo: Dang, Tony you dog you just kidding. Tony: It was a very specific observation. Jogo: What what's funny is that one of our past episodes that movie has been brought up too Rock and Roll Tina was the guest and she was talking about like certain movies I forgot what the movie was, but I mean I forgot what the the the subject was, but that was definitely her her thoughts too, like, yeah, that's like kind of a sad a sad guy movie kind of thing and also the whole Pixie dream girl kind of thing. Yeah. Tony: Manic Pixie Trim Grove. I would say it's it's deeper than that. Like it's pretty it's a pretty layered kind of expansive movie. Jogo: yeah, absolutely. 'cause whether you see like Joel as a like the the the hero or or anti hero, I I guess there's not really any heroes, but if you kind of are more on like Team Joel versus like Team Clementine, Tony: Mm-hmm. Jogo: It's really kind of telling. But At the same time, I personally don't think either of are really the bad guy of the relationship. I think it's just really Tony: Yeah. Jogo: a just not a good match, Tony: Yeah, I guess I'm like I don't know, I still root for them every time. for b for them to be together. Jogo: yeah. So do you think spoiler alert, for people, I'm sure a lot of people have seen it, it's been a while, but do you think after they hear the tapes that they decide to date again? Tony: It seems like it Yeah, I don't know. It's it's kinda open ended, but he says, Okay. I had a ex girlfriend who said that like he like he grew to accept the things about himself and that like exhibited growth and that's why they were able to get back together. Jogo: So that's that's pretty optimistic. It's like, they're not gonna they're not doomed to tread the same waters, Tony: Yeah, which it is very optimistic. I kind of got this feeling that they were gonna r just keep repeating that till the end of time. Jogo: Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, that's a good one. Good job, the Jason. next person is Kevin's not on social media. He chose Wolf of Wall Street. Tony: I'm kinda glad someone said that. There was a lot of about it glorifying bad behavior. But I was kinda uncomfortable the whole time I watched that movie. And there is there's funny parts and fun parts but I always I always felt like a little uncomfortable the whole time. and then there's like The part where he punches spoiler, he punches his wife in the stomach. that felt like a an emotional gut punch as well. Jogo: Yeah, yeah. It's it's funny that you do mention the idea of glorifying these characters, I'm sure. It's like a lot of people who the people who glorify the characters in this movie miss the like miss the point, I think. Because Leonardo DiCaprio's character is is such a shitty person and there's so many clues to that, I think, even the idea where it's like, Yeah, he's like doing all these drugs and then he's like taking off and he's in the car and he everything is fine, but then you really see it what happened in real life. Tony: It's almost I feel like it could be a Sappy Brothers movie. It's a very Sappy Jogo: Yeah, I can see that. Tony: just charismatic asshole. That's like Jogo: Yeah. I don't see how people could really glorify them, but I'm sure a lot of people for sure do. Tony: Feel like yeah, I feel like it was much more of a expose of look at this look at what the fuck people on Wall Street do. Jogo: Yeah. Tony: how disgusting. Jogo: Let's see, so an Edro Di Carmona he chose considering he said considering it's October, I would say the Exorcists, like what the fuck? yeah, the Exorcists. Tony: Again, I've never I haven't seen the S. Jogo: if you don't really like any horror movies, definitely not one to start with. like I I love horror movies and I've watched it once and I wanna like rewatch it again, but I don't wanna watch it by myself. So I'm like, fuck. Tony: That's definitely Jogo: And that Tony: one that's been on my list just because it's like kinda universally looked at as a as like a really good movie. Jogo: Yeah, that's the crazy thing about it. It's like such a well done movie in general and just a disturbing horror movie that like it's like the benchmark. And we've talked about it in the the podcast before, but it's like the benchmark horror movie. That still is like the benchmark horror movie. So that says a whole lot, you know. See so Bass Boomer eighty three, he says Serbian a Serbian film, and he said dot dot dot yeah, don't watch it. Tony: I've heard that I've seen that on lists of trippy movies. look up lists of psychedelic movies to watch. Jogo: it's from what I know about it, 'cause I it's one of those films that you like people are like, You can't unsee this one. You don't wanna you don't wanna like Tony: Yeah. Jogo: touch it. You're like just don't even in this case I kinda listened to people. let's see, so Rosa she said Freddy movies, so another horror movie franchise, Freddy movies, you know like Freddie Krueger? Tony: Yeah, I I saw Freddie versus Jason Jogo: that's right. That's one of your favorite Tony: in high in high school. I liked it when I Jogo: T V today. We were watching it. Tony: watched it. Yeah, I watched it when I was fifteen, so I liked it then. Jogo: It's like really silly. It's not like I wouldn't say it's that scary. Tony: More of an action movie. Jogo: And let's see Tommy Drake Drake or Drake, he chose the substance. Tony: That's w that was one of my Jogo: Okay, so we'll go into it more when you bring it up. Tony: Okay. Jogo: But yeah, Substance is a good movie. nice pick, Tommy. let's see. So now we're gonna go into our picks. So that kind of brings us over to our picks. So Tony Bartoloni, what movie caused you to have the most intense reaction? Tony: the first one is 'cause w I watched it when I was a child. like wait I was way too young to watch it. I don't know how that happened 'cause my mom was really strict about not letting me watch certain movies, but it was the graduate. Jogo: Mm. Tony: and the intense feelings I had were like sexual but I didn't understand them. I just remember being like flush and breathless, just holy shit. Yeah, and it probably I honestly think Jogo: Yeah, what's wh Tony: it left a impact like it was like a formative experience in some way that is embarrassing, maybe. Jogo: You're like, I'm gonna I'm gonna bring this up in a a podcast 'cause it's super embarrassing. Tony: Yeah, I mean as a comic that's what I do a lot. Jogo: yeah. Yeah, that movie is pretty I hadn't seen that movie until I was an adult, I wanna say maybe five, six years ago. But I'd heard a whole lot about it and it's super entertaining. Like it's it's really well made, really entertaining entertaining and pretty like weird. there's a lot of like off beat comedic situations happening in the movie, like like the ending. Tony: But it's all very flat, kinda it's very almost like solemn, like the tone of it is very strange. Wes Anderson said that it was a big influence, especially on his earlier movies. Jogo: Yeah, I could see that. Tony: but he he said him and Owen Wilson both because Owen Wilson wrote like Rushmore and Royal Tenen Baums and Bottle Rocket with Wes Anderson. And they both said Jogo: Mm-hmm. Tony: they were heavily influenced by that. And it's just not even anything they could point their finger to, just like it's in the DNA. Jogo: it it has that dry feel to it too. It has a a very you said, flat feeling to it. but I remember when I watched like Wayne's World, I think it was Wayne's World Two. Have you seen that one? Tony: Yeah. Jogo: Remember like in Wayne's World Two, the whole like when Wayne's trying to get back Cassandra and he's he's driving to all these churches and all this kind of stuff, and then he Tony: yeah. Jogo: has to fight. Yeah, so it's like I remember I watched that before I've seen the graduate. So I I just was like, Where's this coming from? But realized it was a reference to that movie later on. Tony: there's a Simpsons episode where Abe Simpson is banging on the glass saying Bouvier it's like Jogo: His his wife. Tony: it's like Marge's he was dating Marge's mom. and then Mr. Burns steals her away and they're getting they're gonna get married. And then he comes and yells at the church. she's like, I don't she's like, Marry me instead and he's she's like, I don't wanna marry either one of you. And then he's like, I'll take Jogo: Ha. Tony: And then they go they go in the bus like the end of the graduate. Jogo: So as a kid were you like did you did you see the the actual reference right away? Tony: I saw the Simpsons episode first. That might be how I saw that movie, 'cause I was maybe I asked my mom or my mom said that's from the graduate and I was like, What is this? Jogo: I see, that makes sense. Tony: but I yeah, I don't know. there is I definitely was too young to understand the movie. Like have you seen Five Hundred Days of Summer? 'Cause Jogo: Yeah. Tony: in that he watches a graduate when he's too young and like misreads it as like romantic when it's more like this disaffected. irony. Jogo: Do you I'm sure well, 'cause even in the movie, right, Five Hundred Five Hundred Days of Summer, doesn't don't he and Summer go to the movies and watch that movie and then she's crying in the movie? And Tony: Yeah. Yeah. Jogo: watching the movie and he's just like, What? what the heck's going on here? he saw it as an actual roman romance romantic film. Tony: Yeah. Yeah, he thought the ending was romantic and missed the nuance that they're Jogo: Yeah. Tony: unhappy. Jogo: Yeah, 'cause even in the bus they're just like, Once we just got through that whole like crazy romantic situation, now we're just like, yeah, we really don't know if we have a future together Tony: It is Jogo: or have yeah. Tony: it's a great ending 'cause I feel like it's like an anti ending where it's like, what now Jogo: Mm-hmm. Tony: Which is what most endings don't no there is no what now. It's like that's what happened, Jogo: it gives you the answers already? Tony: Or yeah, or just it ties up the s Jogo: Well other movies. Yeah. Tony: ties up the story. Jogo: Yeah, we'll see. It's kinda like Eternal Sunshine The Spotless Mind leaves it open. You're like, maybe. We'll Tony: A little bit. Jogo: see what happens. They should have a sequel to The Graduate called I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. Tony: Undergrad. Jogo: let's see. So what do do you have any kind of like other movies that you'd wanna talk or bring up as runner-ups? Tony: Yeah, I actually it was weird. I watched this after we picked the question. I watched Climax. Have you ever seen that movie? It's like a two thousand eighteen Gasper Noé. I don't know how to say his name. it's Jogo: I don't th I don't think I've seen. Tony: it's about a dance group and in the beginning there's like a fifteen minute part where they're just doing a dance, like a bunch of students doing a a kind of a modern dance and it's like enthralling. It's like totally captures your attention yeah, so it's it's interesting and then And then the the everyone gets someone doses they're all drinking sangria. it's like the after party and then someone dosed the sangria with LSD and then like it takes a turn and just like terrible shit starts happening. Jogo: Hm. That sounds up my alley. I wanna check that out. Tony: Yeah, it's kinda it's pretty like like I said, very just hypnotizing. Like I was mesmerized watching it. But it Jogo: Okay. Tony: it was pretty fucked up. I did have a very intense reaction to it. Jogo: And then do you have another one? Tony: Yeah, the substance, just because like I had a physical reaction to it. you know, like Jogo: Mm-hmm. Tony: my friend someone told me that they were at a theater and someone threw up in the theater while they were watching Jogo: What? Tony: it. Like someone got nauseous and threw up. And I was like I kinda get it. while I was watching it, I was like, I'm glad I didn't get snacks for this. Jogo: What what part did you feel like that was the the part for you? you're like, I would have probably thrown up at this point. Tony: can't remember. but there were definitely parts where I felt queasy or like I was cringing or like uncomfortable. I thought the movie's pretty cool. Like I was Jogo: Mm-hmm. Tony: after it I felt like exhilarated. but but yeah it it gave me I mean in a in a bu in a bunch of different directions at once I feel like Which is why Jogo: Mm-hmm. Tony: it was probably a overwhelming experience. And I I that's a movie I was like, I wanna watch again, but I haven't because I'm kinda afraid to Jogo: Yeah. and that's so that movie, yeah, it's I remember before watching the movie at there was some buzz about the movie and that there it was a lot of body horror and I was a little bit kind of apprehensive because that reason. I was like, shit, I don't know. I'm not sure if I'm gonna like this. This is but everyone that had seen it that I kinda trusted their opinions as far as like certain Instagram accounts or whatever were were praising it. So I was like, Okay, I gotta just Fucking watch it. So my wife and I went to go check it out and I really, really enjoyed it. But I would say the part that really freaked me out was probably the part where she's giving birth to a Tony: Yeah. Jogo: younger version of her, I guess. Tony: I did think of that part right now, when the back opens up. Jogo: Yeah. And I I don't know, I think the movie had a really great style to it, but and I think the payoff is really cool, the whole ending and all that kind of stuff. Tony: So yeah, that Jogo: But Tony: definitely elicited a intense reaction from me. Jogo: So I have a question regarding that movie. So do you think okay, so I still don't understand what the like benefit of that movie or that that the substance is for for like the older version of that character for like Demi Moore's character. Because she doesn't really live the like she can't see what's going on with the the younger person's life. She she cause she's always surprised, like, what'd she do to me? So to me, I'm like What's the benefit of this? Tony: I think she did. I think she did experience it, yeah. Jogo: But she's always surprised and also she's fucking herself over the whole movie, if if that's the case. I mean, unless she's just like a kind of a passenger and that that younger person's like mind or something or eyes. Tony: Yeah. I thought the yeah, I thought her consciousness was in the younger person as well. And there Jogo: Okay. Tony: was there's definitely a duality, where she couldn't control younger self. but yeah, I don't know. I guess well the the message of the movie is it she didn't get she didn't get a lot out of it, right? Jogo: Yeah, yeah. Tony: She ended up ended up fucking her over thing though. Jogo: Well so maybe maybe it kinda doesn't even matter, I guess, Tony: Yeah. Jogo: sometimes some questions that are unanswered are just how they are it's it's suspending disbelief. And that's just how a movie is usually. And I think maybe that's one of those cases where it's like, Who gives a shit? Just go along with go along for the ride and take it for what it is. and I Tony: I will say, yeah, I did the other movie that came out that year that was elicited an intense reaction and it wasn't in a in a totally different way was like a Nora. I really Jogo: yeah. Tony: I really love that movie. And I really like yeah, it was like the ending really affected me. I don't know, kinda kinda devastating, but not totally hopeless. Jogo: I loved I loved the ending of that movie by the way. don't know, I'm not I'm not gonna go too much in specifics, but I think that, you know, in the ending it like that person is kind of seen by someone finally, you know? And feels like a person, feels like a complete person. And not because of that person is like like giving her that, but I think it's just like meeting her on a a certain level that she is, you know. that's really that was a beautiful ending, I think. Tony: And then I thought it spoke to the transactional nature of you know the sex industry. Like it was kinda like it it was almost like she had to give him something to thank him or something for being a kind person. Jogo: I saw it as like sh she kind of just she wanted yeah, like she kinda wanted to give him a part of herself because and she actually wanted to give it to him, you know? Tony: Is me. Jogo: Like instead of like peop you know, people purchasing this and buying that, she wanted to give herself that. Give him that. Tony: There was there I guess there was a big there's a lot of pushback from people online. I just I don't know. Jogo: Probably 'cause it's like sexual nature. people are like, Ugh, what the hell, why are they doing all this? Tony: Well, it was the way they were portraying sex work or like the things they were saying about sex work. I guess people I kinda w yeah, I don't know how I haven't done sex work so it's hard to you know. But Jogo: Yeah. Tony: I did feel a little like like I feel sometimes people have Criticisms where it's like, Well, this isn't my lived experience, but it's like, well, yeah, the movie's not about you. You know what I mean? it's about this other character who feels this other way. Jogo: yes, specific person. Tony: or has this other experience. Which is kinda like Jogo: Yeah. Tony: I feel like that's a shame because I feel like that's the movies that's what's good about movies Roger Ebert said movies are empathy machines. You get to see the world from another person's point of view and it builds empathy watching movies. Jogo: what's funny though, I I remember I used to watch movies and do the same thing that that person was doing where you kinda connect to someone and then you bring your own experiences and your own thoughts and whatever into that person's like like you you kinda you almost project yourself into that that Tony: Yeah. Jogo: character. But I now it's weird. I see it as and I could it's just my own personal way of viewing it, is that that every film that was ever created is is its own world in a way. meaning like the rules of our world usually don't they don't exist in that world exactly. They have a little bit of t a twist to them or whatever. So we that's what that's where it makes it easier to kind of take in that like change or that weirdness of a of a film. Tony: It's like yeah, I watch I watch pro wrestling and that's totally sounds like what you're describing. it's its own world with its own rules and it's not the real world. it's not reality necessarily. It's Jogo: Yeah. I think even documentaries, to be honest, and I'm not I'll probably get some shit for that, but sometimes 'cause documentaries are someone's thesis, their idea of like what happened in this story and they're trying to tell a narrative story within like real facts, but like still like include these things for that to tell that story, you know what mean? So Tony: Yeah. Jogo: so to me it's like that's its own kind of world too, because they're not getting all these other things because it's telling that story. Tony: Yeah, for sure. y I think you could probably take all the footage from a documentary and have your own point of view about it, edit edit it differently and Jogo: throw in a nar a narration of your own and be like, Yeah, this this dog this this movie that was about of someone who survived a a fire and then you have all this footage of their dog kinda in the background, you're like, This movie's about a dog. Tony: my friend in college told me about like how Michael Moore is like all his movies are all lies and stuff. I figured out later who might have been Republican, but but at the time I was like, for reals? That's crazy. Jogo: So on that note sh should I go into my community picks or did have any more or? Tony: you do go into yours. Jogo: Okay. So I'll go into the main one. you know, actually I'll go to the runner-ups first and we'll just kind of quickly go into those really quick. the runner up is actually hereditary. and I would say the reason I chose that one was because it it that movie made brought me a little bit of dread throughout the whole moo whole movie where I didn't wanna I didn't know what was coming next and that that kind of worried me a little bit and I don't as someone who watches a lot of horror movies, you don't get that a lot 'cause you get so desensitized to all this all this other all these other elements in horror movies that are repetitive. Tony: I get the idea that all Ari Astor's movies are about anxiety. saw Beau is Afraid and then I saw Eddington Jogo: Yep. Yeah. Tony: What was afraid was defin definitely could be one that I had an indefense reaction to. Eddington Jogo: yeah. Tony: too, actually. Jogo: Very different movies, but Tony: The ending the Jogo: blood anxiety. Tony: The ending of Eddington really rocked me. Jogo: kinda forget what it was but I yeah, never mind, yeah, I know. Now yes, yes. The the Tony: Like a shootout. Jogo: the I I was thinking more like the bed thing. Or like yeah. Tony: no. I was talking about where they shootout. Jogo: Mm-hmm. Tony: it was so loud and so long. And Yeah, it was it was intense. Jogo: That movie was super also very cynical too. really, really pretty crazy. but really good. I don't know. I have to rewatch that movie. but yeah, you're right. Pretty much Ari Aster's movies are very much like that, and this movie is has that plus this whole doom and gloom, very scary kind of feel to it. And the ending that movie amps up ramps up like crazy, and you're just like, shit. And I remember watching it and just thinking my god. It's getting crazier and it's getting rough. I'm like almost wanting the movie to end because you're just but enjoying it too. and then my other runner up was No Country for Old Men. that movie the reason that movie kind of I reacted to in a certain way because it felt like nobody was really safe in that movie. Anybody could be killed and anybody could be and that's not like something you see in a lot of a lot of movies, I I would think, Tony: I it also feels very realistic. that one feels very much like our world with our rules but somehow also people Jogo: Closer to it. Tony: are getting murked left and right. Jogo: that that whole scene with the old man and the coin in the gas station. Tony: Yeah, yeah, that seems great. Jogo: and it's like that that scene is scarier than a lot of horror movies. It's pretty crazy how how well they they shot that and act the acting is amazing. and then my main answer, and this is gonna go it's gonna be totally different than everything we've kind of talked about, so my my answer was is very specific because it was it's kinda like tacked on with experience in the move in the in the theater. without this experience in the theater, this movie doesn't work for me as as well and it doesn't create that reaction as much. But my main answer is Avengers Endgame. when I went to go watch it. in the theater with a shitload of people, a packed audience. And I just remember the ending when everyone was just like, shit, my god for like, you know, if you've seen it you you probably know where about where Tony: Yeah. Jogo: that happened. Tony: I r I remember watching it in the theater and that was it was shocking and there were like kids crying and stuff Jogo: Yeah. Tony: in the theater. Jogo: But you know what I mean, it was such a there's not a lot of theater experiences where everyone is just on the same page as in a way where it's like and it's such so huge, so big as far as a reaction. And that reaction was like felt the whole time. so to me that was probably like my my biggest reaction because I was like, my god And then you hear everyone's like, my god Tony: Yeah. Yeah. That was Jogo: like, we're like a community right now. This is amazing. Tony: really cool to see in the theater and I'm glad I watched it. I had stopped watching Marvel movies because they just felt repetitive. And then my friend was just like, You wanna go? let's go, let's go watch it. I was like, Alright, whatever. You know? So so we went and then yeah, it was like it was kinda crazy. 'cause Jogo: Yeah. Tony: like but the reason I stopped watching Marvel movies It's 'cause it's like every movie's the same thing. It's like there's a bad guy and then by the end he defeat the good guy defeats the bad guy and that's every movie. Jogo: Yeah. Tony: But in this one, nope. Jogo: Same same shit though. Same thing same thing happened. Just on a hu bigger scale, I guess. Tony: I was like right away I was like man there's another fucking movie now. Jogo: Ha ha Tony: Now they got me back in. Now Jogo: Yeah. Tony: I gotta see another one. Jogo: Yeah. That was but yeah, that was my my main answer. and you know, like I'm looking at like the dates of these movies, like Hereditary was two twenty eighteen, No Country was two thousand seven and Avengers twenty nineteen. And I was like, man, I mean there's I feel like it it sounds kinda like r vague, but the two thousands have come up with really great movies future classics and I always think like the movies that I really enjoyed as a kid were like, those are the classics. Those are the ones to beat. They felt like real movies. But then as I'm getting older I'm like, yeah, but so do these. Some of these feel like you know, they're gonna be talked about for a long while. Tony: Yeah, I I would agree with that. was trying to think when Eternal Sunshine came out, I think in like two thousand, two thousand one, maybe. Two thousand four. So Jogo: yeah. So yeah, two thousands. Tony: post post post post nine eleven. Jogo: So I'm gonna try something Tony: All those Jogo: n this is a different thing. I'm gonna try something a little new today. Tony: Mm-hmm. Jogo: you're gonna you're the first guest that we're gonna try this on. and we're gonna do we have th those first those questions at the beginning that I kind of they're like kinda like fake questions, right? where I said, Who is the best dog hero in a movie? And then the other one was who is the best actor turned musician, singer band? So you get to choose to answer one of these questions. and it's not like a well thought out thing, it's just like a speed round kind of thing. So one or two. Tony: Was the first one Jogo: First one again. Tony: about the dog? Jogo: First one is Tony: about the dog? Jogo: First one is who is the best dog hero in a movie? Tony: Okay. Jogo: And then the sec second one is who is the best actor turned singer slash musician slash band? Tony: I'll go with the first one, the dog. Jogo: Okay. So who is the best dog hero in a movie? Tony: I have two. one, Greenberg, the dog from Greenberg He's making a dog a doghouse. He's good. He's good in it. he gets a auto he he Jogo: Wait, wait, so he's he's a hero? Tony: gets diagnosed with an autoimmune disease. Sounds like a hero to me. Jogo: Okay. There you go. Tony: and then the other one is from homeward bound chance. Jogo: Okay. Is he like the older the older dog? Or is he like the Tony: the older one's shadow. Jogo: is it Michael J. Fox's ki dog? Tony: Michael J. Fox, it's chance. Jogo: yeah. Okay. Cool. Cool cool cool. So Tony: Shadow is Dan Glover, I think. And then the cat is like Roseanne? I don't know. I don't know. Jogo: That was isn't like r like something isn't it like Annette Benning? Tony: Maybe Jogo: I don't know. Anyways, that's that was that whole thing. Tony: I don't think it's Anette Benning but that's funny if it is. Jogo: Alright, so that has been it this episode. I wanted thank Tony for being on the show. Thank you, Tony. I appreciate you coming on the show. And Tony's gonna be on the next episode as well. so I'm looking forward to that. And then do you have any plugs, Tony? Tony: just follow me on Instagram. I post all my stuff on there when I'm doing shows and stuff. it's Tony Barfaloni on Instagram. T O N Y B A R F O L O N E Y. No, it's A. I don't know. You'll find Jogo: Do you it again? Tony: it. Put my name in, you'll find me. Jogo: I'll put it on the episode line the the notes on there too, so you could find you. Tony: Okay, cool. Jogo: but again, really good great stuff. I saw his his show I wanna say maybe a year or two ago, maybe. I don't know. But I was really just impressed how s unique it was, how cool it was. different approach to comedy, but more like the storytelling aspect of it. really cool stuff. And then I did wanna thank you, the community, and don't forget to add Best most on Instagram at best.most.pod. the more the merrier. And also remember there are no guilty pleasures when it comes to music, movies, and all art preferences. Love what you love and enjoy what you enjoy. That connection is such a gift. till next time, take care of yourself and take care of each other. All right, bye-bye.