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The Charlie Kirk Murder Case Goes to Court · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: Arlow Guthrie, son of a communist Woody Guthrie. Arlow is
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  Speaker 1: Happy Fridays, Sir?
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  Speaker 1: my shoes. How'd your did go yesterday you have a
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  Speaker 1: good day, Well, I had an odd day. Pardon what
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  Speaker 1: sounds like a dark twist in my answer, but it
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  Speaker 1: goes to exactly answering the question that you asked. Did
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  Speaker 1: you keep track to any extent yesterday of the pre
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  Speaker 1: trial hearing for the monster who killed Charlie Kirk? Plug
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  Speaker 1: into that?
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  Speaker 2: Sum I did, but I was delayed because I was
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  Speaker 2: on the side of the road with a flat tire
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  Speaker 2: at one hundred and five degrees on the side of
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  Speaker 2: the highway.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh well, let's compare stories. Then I also
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  Speaker 1: plugged into the coverage of this you know where I
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  Speaker 1: watched it. We're in the makeup chair at Fox News. Okay, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: because you did, Will Kane, No, I didn't. It happens.
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  Speaker 1: It happens. They can't. They sent the car to the
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  Speaker 1: house to get me, as they always do. When we
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  Speaker 1: rolled down to downtown Dallas. I go up to the
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  Speaker 1: thirteenth floor. Eight. Boy, do I know these people? Now? Hey,
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  Speaker 1: how's everybody?
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  Speaker 2: Woo?
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  Speaker 1: Who? Just it's always such a joy to go in there.
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  Speaker 1: And I sit down in the makeup chair and April
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  Speaker 1: starts to Wagner power paint my face and try to
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  Speaker 1: make me look like something presentable. And I'm looking over
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  Speaker 1: and this is a we were going to be pretty
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  Speaker 1: well up front. I was going to be me and
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  Speaker 1: a Democrat activist, which is always fun to talk about,
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  Speaker 1: the Graham Platner thing, except I'm sitting down. It's about
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  Speaker 1: ten or fifteen minutes before three, and they are necked
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  Speaker 1: deep in coverage of this Charlie Kirk pre trial thing,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm riveted. It's like, guys, this is wall the wall.
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  Speaker 1: We ain't doing this today. And they say, well, we
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  Speaker 1: don't know, they might take a recess. Nope, nope, you
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  Speaker 1: know they never did. So I pretty well sat there
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  Speaker 1: till we got officially went waved off at like three
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  Speaker 1: forty five. Of course I didn't mind. They were so apologetic.
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  Speaker 1: What am I doing? I mean, I got a nice,
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  Speaker 1: you know ride in a suburban. It was great. I
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  Speaker 1: got to return some phone calls. Suburban goat that time.
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  Speaker 1: That makes it worth it.
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  Speaker 2: I tell you, fine, you absolutely You guys who crave
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  Speaker 2: TV time crack me crazy. You would drive over your
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  Speaker 1: there's some stuff I just don't want to do. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't hear. And here's the thing. I'm a fan
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  Speaker 2: we got ten times more listeners on the radio than
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  Speaker 2: Will Kine. You've actually got collectively, we've got more. People
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  Speaker 2: but Cable, you're on a show with me every day together.
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  Speaker 2: You make any show you're on better. I don't mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not trying to give you any shade,
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  Speaker 2: but it is. It is fascinating to see how people.
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  Speaker 2: I was on a plane once, quick personal story. I
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  Speaker 2: would fly from city to city. Well, we had a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of guests. I'm never gonna mention who this person is,
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  Speaker 2: but but there was a person podcast but it was
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  Speaker 2: but it wasn't one of the hosts. It wasn't one
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  Speaker 2: of the Salem hosts. It was one of our guests.
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  Speaker 2: And this person was going on and on about how
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  Speaker 2: desperate they were to get a Fox News contributor deal
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  Speaker 2: and how infury it was. And I'll never forget it.
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  Speaker 2: I know who it was that the person was bashing
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  Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth. They hated the fact that Pete Hegseth had
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  Speaker 2: a Fox deal at the time and this person didn't,
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  Speaker 2: and it wasn't fair. And I got to get on
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  Speaker 2: I can't get on Hannity's show. And envy's never pretty,
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  Speaker 2: but it's TV. It's the lure of being on that
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  Speaker 2: on the boob too. And it cracks me up because look,
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  Speaker 2: I had years of enjoyment where I hosted, the guest
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  Speaker 2: hosted Kennedy guest hosted Fox and Friends on the weekend,
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  Speaker 2: did all did O'Reilly regularly? Did Megan Kelly regularly? And
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  Speaker 2: that whole that whole chapter where number one one of
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  Speaker 2: the big reasons I quit and didn't want to do
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  Speaker 2: it anymore, was just exactly what you went through yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I would do Lou Dobbs's show regularly. In fact, that's
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  Speaker 2: why President Trump likes me so much, because I think
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  Speaker 2: he loves loved New Dobbs and would watch Lou Dobbs,
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  Speaker 2: who I was a regular pretty much on Lou Dobbs.
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  Speaker 2: But it was the air of all the Trump rallies,
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  Speaker 2: and they slept me over to the studios in Manhattan,
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  Speaker 2: and there was and I was always getting we were
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  Speaker 2: always getting bumped.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I got to run every second of a
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  Speaker 1: Trump rally. So the shows, the show's pre.
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  Speaker 2: There's two three four hours of your life down the
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  Speaker 2: drain for and I don't work. I didn't work. I
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  Speaker 2: worked for Salem. I don't work for a TV network.
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  Speaker 2: I work. And then of course came the infamous day
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  Speaker 2: when the guy dumped the milkshake on my head and
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  Speaker 2: I thought I'm done. I ain't doing this I like anonymity.
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  Speaker 2: I like radio. So that's where we are here. Anyone
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  Speaker 2: I got to know.
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  Speaker 1: I know we got fourteen things going on, but give
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  Speaker 1: me sixty seconds on this this activity that I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know if people do anymore. This changing of a
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  Speaker 1: tire that you describe or or you had a flat tire,
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  Speaker 1: just I mean, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know me? Do you think I changed the tire?
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  Speaker 1: I know how to change a tire. I wouldn't know
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  Speaker 1: how to.
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  Speaker 2: Change a tire if you had a gun to my head.
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  Speaker 1: Haven't done it in fifty years, wouldn't know how to
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 2: If it was if it was me losing my life
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  Speaker 2: or changing the time, I'd be done. So thanks Today,
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  Speaker 2: there's now triple A, there's services, there's had the guy.
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  Speaker 2: Trouble was it took almost two hours, and it really
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  Speaker 2: was it was one hundred on my dashboard it was
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and five degrees. The thing that kind of
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  Speaker 2: bothered me when the guy got the gout finally got
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  Speaker 2: there and got the tire off, I had a puncture
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  Speaker 2: in the sidewall and I said, what I said, some
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  Speaker 2: did somebody do that to my car in the parking
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  Speaker 2: lot or something? That's what it looked like. And he said, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: you you must have hit something. Why I didn't hit anything.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hit anything at all. I wouldn't noticed. I
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  Speaker 2: would have known if I hit something. So I hope,
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  Speaker 2: I hope. So I didn't go around plumb Anyway, it
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  Speaker 2: got done. Four hundred dollars later. It was done, but
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  Speaker 2: I got the tire replaced, and I didn't die. And
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  Speaker 2: I sat in there condition car, waiting for the guy,
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  Speaker 2: and yes, I watched look the testimony. This is a
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  Speaker 2: preliminary hearing to determine whether or not this guy is guilty.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my lord, you talk about overwhelming evidence.
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  Speaker 1: We I need the trial. This pre trial hearing has
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  Speaker 1: been so damning and makes it so obvious what a
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  Speaker 1: murdering monster this guy is. We could save ourselves some
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  Speaker 1: money and just go right to the punishment phase right now.
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  Speaker 2: DNA evidence, confession, confession, all kinds of video surveillance, but
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  Speaker 2: that isn't assuaging the conspiracy crowd. Mark that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: anything to these people. They're convinced Israel did it, the
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  Speaker 2: Feds did it. Ben Shapiro's security team did it. And
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  Speaker 2: I honor that you ignore it. I know, but it's
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  Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, are you not following all this on sociality?
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  Speaker 1: I am in a in an at an arms lengthway.
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  Speaker 1: I am aware of the oddities and weirdness and freakishness
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  Speaker 1: of the Candice Wing without immersing myself in it any
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  Speaker 1: more than five seconds a day.
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  Speaker 2: It's insane, Mark, I mean, it's crazy. The microphone. His
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  Speaker 2: microphone exploded. His microphone exploded. These people are nuts and
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  Speaker 2: nothing that has happening this week, even though it's refuting
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  Speaker 2: every one of their talking points, of course led by Candice.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she's she's the queen of it. She's the
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  Speaker 2: one saying I'm his friend and we knew each and
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  Speaker 2: the whole dynamic. She's going back and forth with Andrew Colvet,
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  Speaker 2: and Andrew who is his right who is Charlie's right hand?
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  Speaker 2: Kelly's cancer, he has producer and he's going back in her.
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  Speaker 2: It's awful. It's so toxic.
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  Speaker 1: We have multiple ment. Listen, there's always been mental dysfunction
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  Speaker 1: in America and every other country. It's a human thing
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  Speaker 1: that happens. But there's something about I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it's all social media or all whatever. It is, just
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  Speaker 1: the modern day the multiple angles of just mental meltdown,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's these conspiracy dorks or looking at this guy,
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  Speaker 1: this Lance twigs, is that his name is that the
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  Speaker 1: killer's boyfriend, and they're all furries and gender weird. And
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  Speaker 1: just if you've got a son that is spiraling into
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  Speaker 1: this freakish world, and if, oh, by the way, he's
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  Speaker 1: got these toxic politics of the left, go rescue him,
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  Speaker 1: drop to your knees and pray for him.
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  Speaker 2: Or just go rescue him. But he's an adult.
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  Speaker 1: I know, it's not like you can have authority over
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  Speaker 1: him like he's fourteen. But just looking at these people,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, what went so horribly wrong in your life
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  Speaker 1: to turn you into this kind of misshapen human creature
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  Speaker 1: that you would do something like this or hang in
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  Speaker 1: this world, or you know, and then you throw a boy.
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  Speaker 1: Pardon me from dragging this right out of the periphery.
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  Speaker 1: You remember the wonderful actress Ellen Page, who's in this
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  Speaker 1: great movie called Juno a few years ago. She all
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  Speaker 1: the toast of Hollywood, quirky, smart, funny, of course, a
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  Speaker 1: total lib but who cares it's Hollywood. Well, now she's
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  Speaker 1: a dude. Apparently she's Elliott Page, and she looks like
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  Speaker 1: a girl dressed up as a man for Halloween and
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  Speaker 1: she's being celebrated, and it just it breaks, it breaks
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  Speaker 1: my heart. The woman is mentally ill. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: this is getting a little better. I feel like the
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  Speaker 1: pendulum is starting to swing, but just at multiple levels.
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  Speaker 1: We have so many examples and vestiges of just complete
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  Speaker 1: brain breakdown.
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  Speaker 2: Well I can't stop, I can't stick stop thinking. Based
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  Speaker 2: on the confession, and this Twigs guy said that the
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson cried a little bit afterwards and said I
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  Speaker 2: wish I hadn't done it, which had to be so
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  Speaker 2: devastating for Erica and for Charlie's parents to hear that
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  Speaker 2: in a courtroom. But I thought he in his confession note,
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  Speaker 2: he said, I'm either going to be dead or I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to go to prison for a long time. So
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  Speaker 2: he climbed that building to take Charlie's life, knowing that
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  Speaker 2: his life was going to be forever destroyed. And how
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  Speaker 2: ill mentally and that's a mental didn't care.
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  Speaker 1: Because Charlie Kirk had to be killed, so some had
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  Speaker 1: to kid be negotiated with. And speaking of Erica, did
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  Speaker 1: you hear the moment where one of this monster's defense attorneys,
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  Speaker 1: And I know defense attorneys got to do whatever they
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  Speaker 1: got to do. I get it. I give them a
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  Speaker 1: lot of latitude on that kind of through shade at Erica.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, well, the court seems to be doing things
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  Speaker 1: just to kind of educate the public and to to
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  Speaker 1: to playcate missus. Kirk is like, which is good?
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  Speaker 2: Which is going to compound the hatred already being directed
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  Speaker 2: to Erica? So that and I think that Laura Laurier
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  Speaker 2: knew exactly what he was doing. I think he wants
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  Speaker 2: to continue to direct more vitriol towards Erica, which, again,
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  Speaker 2: as I've said a million times.
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  Speaker 1: How does that help his client? How does that?
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  Speaker 2: How does them to what end? To what end? The
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  Speaker 2: whole thing is a mess. But the final final thought
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  Speaker 2: as we leave nobody, I've got to play a montage
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  Speaker 2: on my show today of all the Democrats defending Grand
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  Speaker 2: Platinir please do it? Oh please? Mark? Somebody said this
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  Speaker 2: on Kyle Becker wrote, nobody can unsee what the party
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  Speaker 2: did to defend a Nazi tattoo wearing rape accused, known communists.
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  Speaker 2: This who the Democrats are, America. Take a good look.
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  Speaker 2: Mark goes blue. I'm just giving you a heads up
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  Speaker 2: talking about sometimes Mark starts to curse up a storm.
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