Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 8-06-26 Hour 1 - The "Nothing to See" Camp/Defense continues to impress/Nugs sign Lonnie Walker IV
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Motioner, Lombardy and Kane on demand. Listen live
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- 0:18Speaker 2: Coach Sam Alngers stacked a couple of good days here.
- 0:21Speaker 2: What growth have you seen from him from last year?
- 0:23Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's comfort level with what we're doing offensively.
- 0:26Speaker 3: The spaghetti sauce is the other stuff that that's one
- 0:29Speaker 3: of his superpowers that you know, he gets in and
- 0:31Speaker 3: out of some plays.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Maybe he can he can move.
- 0:34Speaker 3: I like how he's looked, you know, and and you
- 0:36Speaker 3: don't get to appreciate a quarterback like him until you're
- 0:40Speaker 3: out there and everyone's on the sideline and then the
- 0:43Speaker 3: ball moves.
- 0:44Speaker 2: You know.
- 0:44Speaker 3: Sometimes it's harder to appreciate that when you're scripting plays.
- 0:47Speaker 3: But you know, he's got a great pedigree. I know
- 0:50Speaker 3: he likes it here and I think he's he's he's
- 0:54Speaker 3: done a lot of good things. Yeah, he's he's fitting
- 0:56Speaker 3: right in there.
- 0:59Speaker 4: You're in his way up there.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Now.
- 1:01Speaker 3: We still have a rotation. There's been no there's no
- 1:05Speaker 3: official battle rotation.
- 1:07Speaker 2: It's two No, I got it.
- 1:10Speaker 3: And I also read where John A's playing safety, all right,
- 1:15Speaker 3: what else we got?
- 1:21Speaker 4: It's Mosa, Lombardi and Kane Altitude Sports Radio ninety two
- 1:25Speaker 4: five RAJ filling in for Kaner alongside Mark Moser Vick Lombardi.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Out of here today and tomorrow's these lazy line of beans.
- 1:33Speaker 2: I swear to god, we're out here at camp man,
- 1:36Speaker 2: week two of training camp. We're doing our thing, man,
- 1:41Speaker 2: huge practice yesterday, Man, and those guys are out smoking
- 1:45Speaker 2: weed or whatever it is they do during the week.
- 1:47Speaker 2: I don't know what they do. Hit the ball and
- 1:50Speaker 2: drink beers and wine and whatever. We're working, man, We
- 1:53Speaker 2: are working, and I should say good morning everybody. And
- 1:56Speaker 2: as we begin today, that sound you here in the background,
- 1:58Speaker 2: In fact, let's amplify it right now if we can't please.
- 2:03Speaker 2: That sound is actually not emore. That is a steam roller.
- 2:06Speaker 2: That is a baby steamroller that steam rolls the field
- 2:09Speaker 2: every single day. And they do it one way one day,
- 2:12Speaker 2: and they do it the other way. And that's it,
- 2:14Speaker 2: backing up back it just what it does is it
- 2:16Speaker 2: just mashes the field down and makes it tighter, makes
- 2:19Speaker 2: it better, not as much, you know, a looseness in
- 2:21Speaker 2: the turf. So the player's cleats will grip and you're
- 2:24Speaker 2: not having guys skid out and tear things. So if
- 2:27Speaker 2: you hear that that is going to be a Caterpillar
- 2:30Speaker 2: baby steamroller steamrolling the field, you'll hear that throughout the day.
- 2:35Speaker 4: We'll be joined by Jeff Legwald in the tent at
- 2:39Speaker 4: nine o'clock today. Don't go anywhere, join us three h three, five, four,
- 2:43Speaker 4: nine to five. All of our training camp coverage this
- 2:46Speaker 4: year is brought to you by Ramos Slaw. Yesterday a
- 2:51Speaker 4: long practice two hours and twelve minute. It's not quite
- 2:53Speaker 4: the two and a half hours that we were promised
- 2:55Speaker 4: from Sean Payton, but by the time that presser was over,
- 2:58Speaker 4: we were nearly at three three hours. A lot of
- 3:01Speaker 4: things to talk about. Another dominant day from the defense,
- 3:04Speaker 4: especially the front seven Sam Ellinger. As you heard Andy
- 3:08Speaker 4: Lindall asking Sean Payton the question like, is that actually
- 3:11Speaker 4: a position battle? Could he be the quarterback number two
- 3:15Speaker 4: on this team? Ellinger looked really good with the number twos.
- 3:17Speaker 4: There are some some moments of brilliance from the number
- 3:20Speaker 4: one offense, but we have to start with the story
- 3:22Speaker 4: of the day. Twenty five minutes into practice routes on air,
- 3:26Speaker 4: Geelen Waddle pulls off of a ball that was very
- 3:29Speaker 4: clearly overthrown. Happened right here in about the fifteen yard
- 3:33Speaker 4: line on the south field of the facility. He takes
- 3:37Speaker 4: his helmet off, he walks to the sideline. He says
- 3:40Speaker 4: something to I believe one of the staffer, the gala water.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Okay, the galhad of water.
- 3:48Speaker 4: I don't know what she does for the team, said
- 3:50Speaker 4: something very briefly to her, and then slowly under his
- 3:53Speaker 4: own power, without saying anything to anybody, not to a teammate,
- 3:57Speaker 4: not to a coach, not to Sean Payton, not to
- 3:59Speaker 4: bone In, walked from here up that turf hill you'll
- 4:03Speaker 4: be the Broncos facility and did not return. You're concerned
- 4:06Speaker 4: about Jayalen Wata.
- 4:07Speaker 2: I don't think so, Nellie. Do we have the cut
- 4:10Speaker 2: of Sean Payton talking about Jalen Waddle. Let me know
- 4:15Speaker 2: in in the headset and I'll uh, this is going
- 4:17Speaker 2: to no ayat here at Dove Valley, no pun and
- 4:21Speaker 2: it's gonna dovetail into what we're gonna be talking about
- 4:24Speaker 2: more today as well. So all right, Nellie, go ahead
- 4:26Speaker 2: and nail that thing. Yeah, we'll evaluate him.
- 4:29Speaker 3: I think he's fine.
- 4:30Speaker 2: He hits some muscle Titans. Okay, there it is Sean Payton.
- 4:35Speaker 2: I'll get to Jalen Wattle, but I'm gonna preface it
- 4:37Speaker 2: by saying I loved and I mean l u v'd
- 4:41Speaker 2: what d mac and Tyler and Scottie and Coach had
- 4:44Speaker 2: to say yesterday, and they are so correct. This has
- 4:47Speaker 2: become the camp, the nothing to see camp.
- 4:50Speaker 3: Right.
- 4:51Speaker 2: It can be like, coach, you know your back up whatever,
- 4:55Speaker 2: your backup long snappers leg fell off today, He'll be fine, Yeah,
- 4:59Speaker 2: we'll he's getting rebod last year. Yeah, but coach, but coach, coach,
- 5:03Speaker 2: they picked his leg up and they put it on
- 5:04Speaker 2: a gator and they he was on the field still,
- 5:07Speaker 2: but his leg was in the field out. Yeah, we'll
- 5:09Speaker 2: evaluate him. I think he's fine, no matter what happens.
- 5:13Speaker 2: No matter what happened, Sean Payton is tamping down every
- 5:17Speaker 2: single little thing he could possibly tamp down, whether it's
- 5:20Speaker 2: elling er getting the reps with the two or you
- 5:22Speaker 2: know that the twos, or whatever the case may be.
- 5:25Speaker 2: This is the zero zero issues, zero controversy, zero injury camp. Well,
- 5:31Speaker 2: it's hard to ignore four starters who are not around
- 5:35Speaker 2: right now are presumably not going to be around in
- 5:38Speaker 2: terms of being able to get on the field in practice. Yeah,
- 5:42Speaker 2: I believe Sean Payton. I don't. I don't. I mean,
- 5:45Speaker 2: I have no reason to disbelieve that Jalen Waddle is
- 5:48Speaker 2: going to be totally fine. Although the optics of it
- 5:50Speaker 2: raj it was weird. Yeah, it was. And it was
- 5:54Speaker 2: great too because I watched the Max recap and he
- 5:58Speaker 2: played the video of the of them on the air
- 6:01Speaker 2: as it happened, and coach could see he's being ginger
- 6:03Speaker 2: and then so on and so forth. And that's before
- 6:05Speaker 2: he even pulled up on the route. It was multiple
- 6:08Speaker 2: balls before he.
- 6:09Speaker 4: Pulled up on the route. Samfrad's going and you could
- 6:12Speaker 4: hear him. It was probably like three minutes before this happened.
- 6:14Speaker 4: Samfrey goes, something's going on with Jaylen Waddell today, and
- 6:17Speaker 4: and coach was alluding to the fact of like, is
- 6:20Speaker 4: this an attitude thing? Is this a I've played under
- 6:24Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel in Miami and the camps because it's the
- 6:27Speaker 4: Sean McVay, the Shanahan tree of training camp, which is
- 6:31Speaker 4: especially nowadays not necessarily the training camps under Mike Shanahan.
- 6:35Speaker 4: Here in the nineties and early two thousands. Is this
- 6:40Speaker 4: a reaction to three straight days of pads in relative
- 6:44Speaker 4: heat in altitude and seeing Courtland Sutton another vet have
- 6:51Speaker 4: something that Jeff Legwald said he's never seen before, a
- 6:54Speaker 4: fully healthy veteran getting back to back days unpadded practices off.
- 7:00Speaker 4: Cortland's out there, and he was like coaching with everyone. Sure,
- 7:02Speaker 4: but back to back practice is not out there. It's
- 7:04Speaker 4: it's I've never seen it either. But when I watched
- 7:07Speaker 4: Courtland Sutton yesterday throwing the football around and really nonchalant
- 7:11Speaker 4: about everything, I think he's totally fine.
- 7:14Speaker 2: I really do. I'm not just worried about that. It's
- 7:16Speaker 2: just it's just one of those just one of those,
- 7:18Speaker 2: you know, weird anomaly things. Maybe this is gonna be
- 7:20Speaker 2: an anomaly camp too, But I truly believe coach when
- 7:24Speaker 2: he says, look, Wadenberg's gonna be fine. You know, Wattle's fine.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Benito's gonna be fine. Courtland Sutton looks fine to me.
- 7:31Speaker 2: I mean I saw him with my own eyes. I
- 7:32Speaker 2: saw Nick Benito walking around. This is all just precautionary,
- 7:35Speaker 2: and I don't blame him because you see the linebacker
- 7:37Speaker 2: in the big linebacker in Atlanta just blew out his
- 7:41Speaker 2: knee in practice. Walker. Yeah, and he's Jalen Walker and
- 7:44Speaker 2: he's gone for the year. It's a scary time. Man.
- 7:48Speaker 2: I was talking to coach about it yesterday on their show,
- 7:50Speaker 2: and I'm like, aren't you nervous? Don't you just want
- 7:53Speaker 2: to get to Game one? He's absolutely. He was like,
- 7:55Speaker 2: you hold your breath all the time.
- 7:57Speaker 4: That's the point you get to in every single training case,
- 8:00Speaker 4: is the hold your breath moment of oh no, when
- 8:03Speaker 4: is the other shoe going to drop? And the injuries
- 8:06Speaker 4: that we've seen in training camp thus far, they feel minor.
- 8:09Speaker 4: Like we you sat here, we watched it. It was
- 8:12Speaker 4: fifty yards away from where we're sitting right now. When
- 8:14Speaker 4: Tim Patrick went up and he went up for a
- 8:16Speaker 4: one on one ball and he came down and.
- 8:17Speaker 2: His knee, it was right, it was right, It was
- 8:19Speaker 2: right there. It was all right over there.
- 8:21Speaker 4: The fifteen yard line, the north field, and you could
- 8:23Speaker 4: see it happen. And when it happened and the reaction
- 8:26Speaker 4: from the teammates, you knew it was catastrophic.
- 8:29Speaker 2: Absolutely, None of.
- 8:30Speaker 4: The injuries that we've seen, or none of the walking
- 8:33Speaker 4: off the field, the Nick Bonito and the Jalen Wattle
- 8:36Speaker 4: thing that we've seen, nothing has looked catastrophic. I want
- 8:38Speaker 4: to bring it back to to what Sanford was saying.
- 8:41Speaker 4: It looked weird before he pulled out, So was that always? Hey,
- 8:45Speaker 4: he came he came into the facility at you know,
- 8:48Speaker 4: four thirty in the morning and was like, something doesn't
- 8:50Speaker 4: feel right. Maybe I can get it warm and get
- 8:52Speaker 4: through it. And then very quickly, twenty minutes into practice,
- 8:55Speaker 4: he's like, yeah, it just there.
- 8:56Speaker 2: That's what it seems like to me. It wasn't. It wasn't.
- 8:59Speaker 2: He's always been a hard worker. He's No, he's always
- 9:01Speaker 2: been a hard worker, who's always been a guy who's
- 9:03Speaker 2: been a pro. Agree, he's done his job. So I
- 9:07Speaker 2: don't worry about that aspect of all. Like, hey man,
- 9:09Speaker 2: well I'm looking at fourteen over here with two days off,
- 9:11Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna walk into I think something, something
- 9:14Speaker 2: is a little tight. And look, he knows his body
- 9:16Speaker 2: and he's probably being smart about it. I don't want
- 9:18Speaker 2: to push it anymore because I don't want this to be,
- 9:21Speaker 2: you know, a two week thing or a month long
- 9:23Speaker 2: thing or whatever it may be. So he's probably really
- 9:25Speaker 2: really smart about it, so I and again I just
- 9:28Speaker 2: I don't really worry. Now you're talking about the old
- 9:31Speaker 2: Tim Patrick situation. And by the way, the next year
- 9:33Speaker 2: when he blew out his achilles, just I saw that too,
- 9:36Speaker 2: in the fact the fields were going this way back
- 9:39Speaker 2: and forth and he just off the line of scrimmage. Boom,
- 9:43Speaker 2: it's gone. And what I what I judge these things
- 9:46Speaker 2: by is the player's reaction, not the teammates, but the
- 9:50Speaker 2: player himself. And you can tell when something pops or blows.
- 9:53Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's pretty easy to see the Okay, now,
- 9:57Speaker 2: after the steamroller, we got mowerk kid. All right, dude,
- 10:00Speaker 2: what's up? Gott some good lettus going on? Look at
- 10:02Speaker 2: the flow on that kid, man. That kid looks like
- 10:05Speaker 2: a hockey player. Nonetheless, you can tell when something goes
- 10:08Speaker 2: really bad by the player how he reacts to his body,
- 10:11Speaker 2: the grabbing, the screaming, then whatever it may be. And
- 10:14Speaker 2: we haven't seen any of that, so I'm not overly concerned.
- 10:18Speaker 2: But it is funny. Again, I have no reason to
- 10:21Speaker 2: disbelieve Sean Payton when he says it's fine, it'll be fine.
- 10:24Speaker 2: I did evaluate fine, But it is funny. That every
- 10:28Speaker 2: single day we seem to run into He's fine, it's fine, Fine.
- 10:34Speaker 4: It's the it's a hockey response to it. Yeah, he's hurt,
- 10:38Speaker 4: he'll be back.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Yeah, to be back. I don't have a timeline.
- 10:40Speaker 4: Yeah, that's basically some portion of his body is injured.
- 10:43Speaker 4: He'll be fine, don't worry about it. It's the Jared
- 10:46Speaker 4: Bednar approach to everything. Yeah, he's got a lower body.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Yeah. When Sean Payton will take the time to explain
- 10:51Speaker 2: about a player's injury, that's when I'll get worried and
- 10:54Speaker 2: get concerned. When he actually spends time saying, well, this
- 10:58Speaker 2: is what happened, and this is what we're looking and
- 11:00Speaker 2: you know, at that point, I'll go, oh god, okay,
- 11:03Speaker 2: but right now, raj As you know, things move on.
- 11:07Speaker 2: I mean, Wattle's walking off the field, and what's happening, Oh,
- 11:10Speaker 2: balls are being thrown off all You're exactly right. I
- 11:13Speaker 2: mean he's walking off the field. You know what's happening. Hey,
- 11:15Speaker 2: we're going, let's let's go. I mean, we got we've
- 11:18Speaker 2: got a lot of work to do in a short
- 11:20Speaker 2: amount of time. We don't have time to dilly dally
- 11:23Speaker 2: and even think about a guy and look in hockey,
- 11:25Speaker 2: it's the same way, Raj. You know that guy. You know,
- 11:29Speaker 2: guys to the bench right down the tunnel. Man, You're
- 11:32Speaker 2: you're going, You're going, You're going.
- 11:33Speaker 4: It was a shame that we did not get to
- 11:35Speaker 4: see Wattle in the team period yesterday because the injury happened,
- 11:39Speaker 4: or him taking himself out of practice and not necessarily
- 11:42Speaker 4: feeling great.
- 11:43Speaker 2: The muscle tightness.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Again, I'm not I'm not saying that it was an
- 11:47Speaker 4: attitude thing that was a possibility. Where we saw him
- 11:51Speaker 4: out here, it was like, oh, something's up, Like it's
- 11:53Speaker 4: just not the same Jalen Wattle that we saw.
- 11:55Speaker 2: He didn't pull the look I'm really hot and I'm
- 11:57Speaker 2: a diva. It's not yet. I don't believe. No, I
- 12:00Speaker 2: don't believe that for a second.
- 12:01Speaker 4: For a guy that you used a first round draft
- 12:05Speaker 4: selection on essentially you know, a one and a three,
- 12:08Speaker 4: and then had a fourth round pick swap to bring
- 12:10Speaker 4: him in.
- 12:11Speaker 2: He is.
- 12:13Speaker 4: He's as important to this offense as anybody out in
- 12:16Speaker 4: the field. So if there is a day in the
- 12:19Speaker 4: beginning week of August that he goes, yeah, I just
- 12:21Speaker 4: don't have it and I'm not gonna push it. I'm
- 12:23Speaker 4: okay with that. You don't need to push it now.
- 12:25Speaker 4: You know that he's gonna be probably the most targeted
- 12:28Speaker 4: receiver on the team this year. It was after I
- 12:31Speaker 4: don't think so, man, Are you sure? Did you watch
- 12:35Speaker 4: practice on Monday Day? All they wanted to do was
- 12:37Speaker 4: get the ball to Jalen. Part and you didn't was
- 12:41Speaker 4: during during the team period because Cortland and Jalen were
- 12:46Speaker 4: not out there. The ones and twos were Troy Franklin
- 12:49Speaker 4: and Pat Bryant. And the amount of wide receiver motions
- 12:53Speaker 4: that were run from where Jalen would have been on
- 12:56Speaker 4: the field where Bo was forcing the football into Pat
- 12:59Speaker 4: Bryant's hands yesterday, it's very clear they want Jalen.
- 13:02Speaker 2: With the ball. Okay. That being said, I you may
- 13:05Speaker 2: be very very right. You may be. At the same time,
- 13:10Speaker 2: it's important to get Waddle up to speed with his quarterback,
- 13:13Speaker 2: so I would if it was me, I'd try to
- 13:15Speaker 2: force it to Jaalen Wattle too. There's no problem between
- 13:19Speaker 2: Bo Nix and Corlan Sutton. That's long established, and that's good.
- 13:22Speaker 2: It's a good thing between those two. It doesn't mean
- 13:26Speaker 2: that when you're actually in game situations that number ten
- 13:31Speaker 2: isn't gonna be looking for his favorite tall wide out
- 13:33Speaker 2: in a fifty to fifty ball. We'll see fifty.
- 13:36Speaker 4: We'll see the guy on the on the field is.
- 13:40Speaker 2: You may be right, You may be right. I'm defending
- 13:42Speaker 2: my position by saying, they already have great chemistry. They
- 13:46Speaker 2: already know each other very well, and you don't need
- 13:48Speaker 2: to work on that. It was a shame that we
- 13:50Speaker 2: see me. It's a given. It was a shame that we.
- 13:52Speaker 4: Didn't get to see Wattle and Sutton in the offense yesterday,
- 13:55Speaker 4: given how much there was a focus on the passing
- 14:01Speaker 4: game yesterday in the team period. Now they started with
- 14:04Speaker 4: inside run with nine on seven drills, but they had
- 14:07Speaker 4: a good forty five minutes to an hour of best
- 14:11Speaker 4: on best football, and we didn't get to see those
- 14:13Speaker 4: wide receivers. And I wonder if that's the reason why
- 14:16Speaker 4: the defense dominated so much when it came to ones
- 14:21Speaker 4: versus ones. That's Mark Moser, I'm Alex trying em me
- 14:23Speaker 4: filling in for Brett Kane today Mosie Lombardi and Kane
- 14:26Speaker 4: on Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five.
- 14:28Speaker 2: Okay, real quick, and hopefully that that steamroller, that's what
- 14:31Speaker 2: it is right, a steamroller?
- 14:32Speaker 4: Right, what do you call that thing? I think you
- 14:34Speaker 4: call it a steamroller.
- 14:35Speaker 2: I mean if you saw one on the highway tamping
- 14:37Speaker 2: down the new asphalt, you know that's it's the identical machine, correct, Yeah, yes, yeah, okay,
- 14:43Speaker 2: But they're just using it on a football field to
- 14:45Speaker 2: get the turfall nice and tight, dig your feed in,
- 14:48Speaker 2: get those cleats in the dirt. Man. But the defense
- 14:52Speaker 2: being at the head yesterday, in the past couple of days. Man,
- 14:55Speaker 2: that's the way it's usually always been. The defense always
- 14:59Speaker 2: starts out ahead of the the offense, and then the
- 15:00Speaker 2: offenses camp goes along, plays catch up, and then eventually
- 15:04Speaker 2: does catch up. So the defense is, you know, finally
- 15:07Speaker 2: found its legs a little bit, and those guys are
- 15:09Speaker 2: just you know, being dogs on the outside of the ball.
- 15:12Speaker 2: Right now, this defense ain't gonna be any poor than
- 15:15Speaker 2: it was the last couple of years when it was dominant.
- 15:17Speaker 2: So it should make you feel good, buddy, we'll hear.
- 15:18Speaker 4: From DJ Jones on the other side of the break.
- 15:20Speaker 5: Don't go anywhere, because you guys have said franchise marks
- 15:23Speaker 5: the back to back years for sacks in a season.
- 15:24Speaker 5: Where do you feel like this defense can let's again
- 15:26Speaker 5: elevent your game.
- 15:27Speaker 2: We can break it, well, we can break the record.
- 15:34Speaker 3: Bears record was that seventy two?
- 15:38Speaker 2: Who can break it? Okay, DJ my Man.
- 15:46Speaker 4: Seventy two sacks is the record set by the nineteen
- 15:49Speaker 4: eighty four Bears. The Broncos' team last season in seventeen games,
- 15:53Speaker 4: sixty eight sacks led the NFL A team record. Could
- 15:57Speaker 4: they get to seventy two? Is the question to DJ Jones,
- 16:00Speaker 4: one of the players who is charged with filling the
- 16:03Speaker 4: holes left by Jonathan Franklin Meyer. He was excellent yesterday,
- 16:09Speaker 4: particularly in inside run, that first little period where the
- 16:15Speaker 4: offense couldn't get anything going and the defense should win
- 16:17Speaker 4: inside round. It's like, be very very clear about that.
- 16:21Speaker 4: Jones was one of those players alongside Malcolm Roach, pushing
- 16:24Speaker 4: the offensive line back on that first series, He's part
- 16:27Speaker 4: of a tackle for loss on the third repetition, takes
- 16:30Speaker 4: his helmet off, starts scooting and hollering. I haven't seen
- 16:33Speaker 4: that level of I wonder if animosity is too strong,
- 16:37Speaker 4: but that level of animosity in this camp yet.
- 16:40Speaker 2: It's funny.
- 16:41Speaker 4: It basically happened on the same exact day that it
- 16:43Speaker 4: happened last year. When Drake Greenlaw and JK. Dobbins went
- 16:47Speaker 4: at it, which was the first full Wednesday into camp.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that stuff. I like DJ Jones. I
- 16:53Speaker 2: like his personality. He's very gregarious. He's a damn good
- 16:58Speaker 2: football player. And it's okay to have goals. Man, they
- 17:02Speaker 2: were four away from tying the record last season. What's
- 17:04Speaker 2: wrong with trying to get there? If that defense wants
- 17:08Speaker 2: to make that a goal, I'm all in. That sounds
- 17:10Speaker 2: great now. I'd also like more strip sacks and more
- 17:13Speaker 2: of other stuff, you know, but I think it's fantastic.
- 17:17Speaker 2: And I was looking at DJ Jones. You know, he's
- 17:20Speaker 2: six foot tall. Okay, he's three hundred and five pounds.
- 17:26Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, I want you to think about things
- 17:29Speaker 2: in your home that weigh three hundred and five pounds. Refrigerator,
- 17:37Speaker 2: I feel it doesn't a fridge like way more. I
- 17:39Speaker 2: don't even know how much. How much does the average fridgeway?
- 17:42Speaker 2: You google that crap? Just think, I mean, how many
- 17:44Speaker 2: things in your home do you have? Pounds? Okay, how
- 17:47Speaker 2: many things in your house do you have that weighs
- 17:50Speaker 2: as much as DJ Jones? Do you know what I mean?
- 17:52Speaker 2: Your car your car, fridge, perhaps, washing machine, no dryer,
- 17:58Speaker 2: no couches, no tables, no, you know what I mean, Like,
- 18:03Speaker 2: this is a big human being. So hell yeah, you
- 18:06Speaker 2: talk about run stopping, I don't know how you. I
- 18:09Speaker 2: don't know how these offensive line, offensive linemen and defensive
- 18:12Speaker 2: linemen move each other. When you just got three hundred
- 18:14Speaker 2: pounds versus three hundred pounds, it's just like, my god,
- 18:18Speaker 2: it's incredible. But I like him a lot, and if
- 18:22Speaker 2: that's a lofty goal that they want to try to achieve,
- 18:24Speaker 2: I'm here for go get them. Hell yeah. Now again,
- 18:26Speaker 2: I'll go back to where I am with the departure
- 18:29Speaker 2: of JFM, and that is it's probably gonna be a
- 18:35Speaker 2: rotational situation like it was before. But I mean, somebody's
- 18:38Speaker 2: gonna have to make up for that. And I just
- 18:39Speaker 2: want to see what it looks like without him anchoring
- 18:42Speaker 2: in the middle there with Zach Allen. I'm just I'm
- 18:45Speaker 2: curious just to see what it looks like. And who
- 18:47Speaker 2: picks up all that slack?
- 18:48Speaker 4: Here is Sean Payton on one player that might pick
- 18:51Speaker 4: up the slack? Yomu Wasrique.
- 18:54Speaker 2: Listen.
- 18:54Speaker 3: I'm proud of him because you guys know this I
- 18:57Speaker 3: mean in our sport, any sport, really to just be
- 19:01Speaker 3: out for a year can be difficult. He's really come
- 19:05Speaker 3: back developed. Man, he's strong, you know, it's big, and
- 19:10Speaker 3: he's having a real good start to camp. So I think,
- 19:14Speaker 3: you know, you got to look at it as one
- 19:16Speaker 3: last year than than what's listed because of the year out.
- 19:19Speaker 3: But yeah, he's doing really well.
- 19:23Speaker 4: I think it speaks volumes that an organization would stand
- 19:27Speaker 4: by a player that had a year long suspension for
- 19:31Speaker 4: gambling dating back to his days at Iowa State. Right,
- 19:34Speaker 4: not a good situation, very clearly a young, dumb mistake
- 19:37Speaker 4: made by a Wazriki to lose a year in the
- 19:40Speaker 4: NFL probably cost him, in the grand scheme of things
- 19:43Speaker 4: that I don't know, a couple of million bucks.
- 19:46Speaker 2: He's definitely paid the price for it, without a doubt.
- 19:48Speaker 4: But for a team to stand by that player, I
- 19:50Speaker 4: think it speaks volumes too. Oh, we really really like him.
- 19:54Speaker 4: We believe in this guy to step up.
- 19:56Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Hey, if it was Alex Ryan Emmy,
- 20:00Speaker 2: because would be like you know what, booted into the sun,
- 20:04Speaker 2: you'd be you'd be booted through those those up if
- 20:09Speaker 2: you'd be booted through those uprights and out of the
- 20:11Speaker 2: out of the I saw.
- 20:16Speaker 4: I believe it was Brandon Jones working with Will Lutz
- 20:20Speaker 4: on field goals, really, on point after attempts.
- 20:24Speaker 2: Really, I wonder if in a.
- 20:27Speaker 4: Preseason game we get to see Brandon Jones kick a
- 20:31Speaker 4: field goal or a point after.
- 20:33Speaker 2: I doubt we've seen it happen before.
- 20:36Speaker 4: Players have players have kicked point afters, and they've been
- 20:39Speaker 4: utilizing kickoff in preseason, but just because.
- 20:42Speaker 2: They kind of want to believe it when I see, dude,
- 20:45Speaker 2: he kicked like three of them yesterday.
- 20:46Speaker 4: He missed one wide right, and then he had two
- 20:48Speaker 4: of them that were seventy the uprights.
- 20:51Speaker 2: So is this down? This is a a will Will
- 20:54Speaker 2: has his leg fall off in the middle of an
- 20:57Speaker 2: It's not what this is.
- 20:58Speaker 4: This is Brandon Jones want to mess because the defensive
- 21:01Speaker 4: backs weren't doing anything in the moment copy and he
- 21:03Speaker 4: was just learning the steps. But who do we say,
- 21:05Speaker 4: didn't uh didn't Chad Johnson kick a point after a
- 21:10Speaker 4: preseason game? O Whide receivers do it all the time
- 21:12Speaker 4: in preseason games. I don't remember the little point afters
- 21:14Speaker 4: that don't mean anything. Give me some Brandon Jones kicking
- 21:17Speaker 4: in the preseason.
- 21:18Speaker 2: Well, I think you're one hundred percent correct when it
- 21:20Speaker 2: comes to uh Juaso Rique. Again, you're talking about a
- 21:24Speaker 2: guy who they got in the fourth round. But he's
- 21:26Speaker 2: a big human being as well. I mean, he's way
- 21:28Speaker 2: bigger than even DJ Jones is. It's he's six six
- 21:31Speaker 2: and three twenty Again, think about things in your home
- 21:34Speaker 2: that weigh three hundred and twenty pounds or ain't a lot, right,
- 21:37Speaker 2: So it's he's definitely got talent and that's why you
- 21:41Speaker 2: stick with a guy like that in the depth there
- 21:43Speaker 2: on the defensive side, Roz, we've seen it for you know,
- 21:47Speaker 2: some years in a row now where it's all for
- 21:49Speaker 2: one and one for all on the defensive side of
- 21:51Speaker 2: the football. Nough, you have some really great players, and
- 21:54Speaker 2: I mean you had great pass rushers and that sort
- 21:57Speaker 2: of thing. And that's great because he needs those guys.
- 22:00Speaker 2: But everybody gets a taste, everybody gets a piece, everybody
- 22:03Speaker 2: gets some action in a jaserque. Now that there was
- 22:07Speaker 2: that void to fill, I'm sure they're gonna rotate in and find,
- 22:10Speaker 2: you know, relatively soon what that rotation is going to
- 22:13Speaker 2: be like. Now, not that it can't change when the
- 22:14Speaker 2: season rolls around. But get that rotation going, and he's
- 22:17Speaker 2: having a good camp and I'm I'm pleased that John
- 22:19Speaker 2: Payton is praising him.
- 22:22Speaker 4: The front seven has been I think the best unit
- 22:26Speaker 4: thus far in camp.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Now, the first two days were all We're all offense, right.
- 22:29Speaker 4: It was the offensive show the first two days, which
- 22:31Speaker 4: was shocking because that hardly ever happens at any training
- 22:35Speaker 4: camp around the NFL. The defense simply has a leg
- 22:38Speaker 4: up and it takes a week or two to get
- 22:40Speaker 4: into your.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Process as an offense.
- 22:42Speaker 4: Broncos offense dominates day one and day two, and the
- 22:45Speaker 4: defense heard it. Talano Hufango was vocal day three when
- 22:49Speaker 4: the defense very clearly won the day of practice and
- 22:52Speaker 4: walked past the media throng who was about to interview
- 22:54Speaker 4: Chan Payne and went just to let you know, we
- 22:57Speaker 4: won today, right, They won that day, they won two
- 22:59Speaker 4: days ago, they won yesterday. It's because of the front seven.
- 23:03Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've got pride on that side of the football,
- 23:05Speaker 2: big time pride. They know how good they are. I
- 23:08Speaker 2: mean they know and by the way, these players, every
- 23:11Speaker 2: single guy on each side of the football knows if
- 23:14Speaker 2: they won the day or not. And it's a pride
- 23:16Speaker 2: thing too. We won today, absolutely you did. And you're
- 23:21Speaker 2: right about that. That front seven, dude is really really stout,
- 23:24Speaker 2: really stout. This is as a good football.
- 23:27Speaker 4: Team, I said in the appetizer hour. Is Zach Allen
- 23:30Speaker 4: speaking of those you know hand in the dirt players.
- 23:34Speaker 4: Is Zach Allen the most important player on the Broncos defense?
- 23:38Speaker 2: Is he the best? No, he's not. He's elite.
- 23:40Speaker 4: He's a top hundred player in the NFL. He is
- 23:42Speaker 4: a guy who hits the quarterback more than anybody in
- 23:46Speaker 4: the NFL right forty seven times last year. Is he
- 23:50Speaker 4: the best player in the defense. No, that's Patzertan. Is
- 23:52Speaker 4: he the second best player on the defense? Maybe, but
- 23:55Speaker 4: probably not. That might be Nick Benito. I think he's
- 23:58Speaker 4: the most important one because his ability to take on
- 24:01Speaker 4: double teams to get to the quarterback out of the
- 24:04Speaker 4: middle of that defensive line. It makes the jobs easier
- 24:07Speaker 4: on guys like DJ jones On, younger players in terms
- 24:11Speaker 4: of their NFL service, like Ujasa Riquel, like of Tylerroon
- 24:14Speaker 4: yet him coming out of the third round this year,
- 24:18Speaker 4: and another player who was excellent yesterday, particularly during the
- 24:21Speaker 4: run period. Was it was Malcolm Roach. I think it's
- 24:24Speaker 4: all led by Zach Allen.
- 24:26Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right about that. You know, listening
- 24:27Speaker 2: to Vic talk to him the other day, and I've
- 24:31Speaker 2: obviously heard him talk before, he's a very unselfish guy.
- 24:36Speaker 2: I think if you're gonna play that position, and again
- 24:39Speaker 2: your job is to just muck it up in the
- 24:41Speaker 2: middle and drive that offensive line backwards and let you know,
- 24:45Speaker 2: flush quarterbacks at least touch quarterbacks. That's fine too, but
- 24:49Speaker 2: there's got to be a bit of unselfishness there because
- 24:51Speaker 2: you're not going to raj You're not going to get
- 24:52Speaker 2: the glory at all. Glory is not coming your way. Listen,
- 24:56Speaker 2: personal glory from your coaching staff, personal glory for your teammates.
- 25:01Speaker 2: I think that's all that Zach Gallen needs. He doesn't
- 25:03Speaker 2: need to be this guy who's loved and gets his
- 25:05Speaker 2: quarterback sacks and gets his you know, gets his his
- 25:08Speaker 2: stats all all elevated. He doesn't need that kind of thing.
- 25:12Speaker 2: DJ's the same kind of way, Malcolm Roads, the same
- 25:14Speaker 2: kind of way. These guys go in and they know
- 25:16Speaker 2: when they're doing their job effectively because they'll get a taste.
- 25:19Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, they'll get some sacks, they'll get
- 25:21Speaker 2: a taste, and I love that. But the outside guys
- 25:24Speaker 2: are going to get a big old heap and helping
- 25:27Speaker 2: of quarterbacks. And it's a lot to do with those
- 25:31Speaker 2: guys right there in the middle.
- 25:32Speaker 4: Speaking of the outside and honestly speaking of a player
- 25:36Speaker 4: that the organization has very clearly shown faith in, has
- 25:41Speaker 4: stood behind. Right, we talked about jas Rika, and I
- 25:44Speaker 4: see a good text here on the shot mas text
- 25:47Speaker 4: line three h three five oh four nine to two
- 25:49Speaker 4: five is where you can reach us from the two
- 25:51Speaker 4: hundred four. Call me dumb, but what's the difference between
- 25:54Speaker 4: his gambling Jazerrik and the idiot from Texas Tech. There's
- 25:58Speaker 4: no difference between the two. Right, that was a year
- 26:00Speaker 4: long suspension for Wasrik. You can look at what's the
- 26:04Speaker 4: Brendan Brendan Soresby. You can look at the Soresby situation
- 26:08Speaker 4: and basically say he's serving a one year suspension this year.
- 26:11Speaker 2: That's essentially what it is.
- 26:12Speaker 4: If he stays under the radar, he'll be a quarterback
- 26:16Speaker 4: that is available to teams next season. So I don't
- 26:19Speaker 4: think there's a difference. I think both of those players
- 26:21Speaker 4: got the same It's not a slap on the wrist,
- 26:23Speaker 4: but certainly got the same punishment across the league.
- 26:26Speaker 2: Would you consider Brendan soresby having been taken out of
- 26:29Speaker 2: the supplemental Draft and having to wait a year? Would
- 26:31Speaker 2: you consider that time served when it comes time for
- 26:35Speaker 2: next year? And I think the league will as well
- 26:37Speaker 2: as long as he stays out of it. But you've
- 26:39Speaker 2: got to be consistent about it. You've got to continue
- 26:41Speaker 2: to send these messages to these players that this is Look,
- 26:43Speaker 2: this is what you're going to get. So they're not
- 26:45Speaker 2: calling it a suspension because he's not in the league.
- 26:47Speaker 2: They can't suspend him, but they can say we're not
- 26:50Speaker 2: going to accommodate you to get you into this league.
- 26:52Speaker 2: They can do that. So that's essentially what it is.
- 26:54Speaker 2: You're right about that. Hey, real quick, we got a
- 26:56Speaker 2: text from Georgia the two six to seven zero, Please
- 26:58Speaker 2: tech me text me that big blank word that most
- 27:01Speaker 2: just used. That's blanked, that blanked us out? What was
- 27:04Speaker 2: the word that I used, Jesse? Do you know? I
- 27:06Speaker 2: don't really did I use a big word? What did
- 27:09Speaker 2: I say?
- 27:10Speaker 5: I saw that text come in and I have no
- 27:12Speaker 5: blanking idea what you said? I guess we're gonna have
- 27:14Speaker 5: to go pull the tape.
- 27:15Speaker 2: I guess it's just me in my ramblings, my daily ramblings.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
- 27:19Speaker 4: Now he goes slew through the audio. We'll find that
- 27:21Speaker 4: a little bit later on. I don't I don't know
- 27:24Speaker 4: this show.
- 27:24Speaker 2: I don't know what. I don't know what I said.
- 27:25Speaker 2: I'm just talking right now going.
- 27:27Speaker 4: Back to players that the Broncos organization is clearly standing behind,
- 27:31Speaker 4: with Uasarika being the first one. The second is the
- 27:33Speaker 4: ongoing situation, uh with Jonathan Cooper and is he going
- 27:38Speaker 4: to be suspended by the league? Will he miss time?
- 27:40Speaker 4: We don't know what's happening with his situation off the field.
- 27:44Speaker 4: I believe August thirtieth is the next time he's due.
- 27:48Speaker 2: Uh in Cord, Well, they're talking about trial because of
- 27:50Speaker 2: the the additional charges, right, we're talking about it not
- 27:53Speaker 2: till the new year, so we're talking this entire football
- 27:57Speaker 2: season essentially thing will be decided. So how can you
- 28:01Speaker 2: suspend a player? Well, I that's that's that's not exactly right,
- 28:07Speaker 2: because we've seen it before. I mean, but the league
- 28:10Speaker 2: typically wants to wait for a conclusion to the legal
- 28:13Speaker 2: proceedings before they decide how to proceed.
- 28:15Speaker 4: So they don't know what's going on there. But I
- 28:17Speaker 4: bring up Jonathan Cooper because and I did stock Up
- 28:20Speaker 4: stock Down. I stole it from Brett in the appetizer
- 28:22Speaker 4: hour to bring it back considering we have NFL football
- 28:25Speaker 4: tonight on Altitude Sports World. That's right, Yeah, the Cardinals
- 28:29Speaker 4: Caroline and the Cardinals the Hall of Fame game that
- 28:32Speaker 4: starts tonight, So I thought i'd bring back stock Up
- 28:34Speaker 4: stock Down. And for a guy who's been mired in controversy,
- 28:37Speaker 4: and a very ugly controversy at that, in Jonathan Cooper,
- 28:40Speaker 4: he was sensational yesterday. Like I've always looked at Jonathan
- 28:46Speaker 4: Cooper as well. Yeah, he's got Nick Bonito on the
- 28:48Speaker 4: other side, so of course he's gonna get his his touches.
- 28:51Speaker 4: He's gonna be able to rack up you know, six, seven, eight, nine,
- 28:54Speaker 4: ten sacks in the season because he's going one on
- 28:57Speaker 4: one and Benito is getting chipped constantly. So he is
- 28:59Speaker 4: the he's the edge rusher with the greatest ability to
- 29:02Speaker 4: get to the quarterback because of what Benito takes away
- 29:05Speaker 4: from him. He was so good yesterday, a very clear
- 29:09Speaker 4: sack of bo Nick's a very clear tackle for loss,
- 29:13Speaker 4: and he's doing it without Benito on the field right now,
- 29:15Speaker 4: again against his own team, but against the number one
- 29:19Speaker 4: pass blocking offensive line in football.
- 29:21Speaker 2: Right I like it. I mean, these are elite units. Brother, Hey,
- 29:25Speaker 2: real quick, we give each other the business on this show,
- 29:29Speaker 2: don't we? Typically? I mean, look, you're a fill in
- 29:32Speaker 2: right now, So I don't know if I feel very
- 29:34Speaker 2: comfortable blasting you and cutting you down the way I
- 29:36Speaker 2: would Breton Vic. I'm just moving shows. But I encourage
- 29:41Speaker 2: you my normal show on Monday. Yeah, I encourage it
- 29:43Speaker 2: amongst our. I encourage it amongst our our listeners, though
- 29:47Speaker 2: with each other, justin type sin. Hey, that guy's from Georgia.
- 29:51Speaker 2: A big word for him is probably something like because
- 29:54Speaker 2: or essentially, what did I say? I like DJ Joe.
- 30:00Speaker 2: I like his personality. He's he's very gregarious. He's a
- 30:04Speaker 2: damn good football player.
- 30:06Speaker 5: Because the Texter followed up and said, I think you
- 30:10Speaker 5: were talking about Brandon Jones, different Jones, something like vigorous,
- 30:15Speaker 5: so vigorous, So I think the vigorous, gregorious, gregarious.
- 30:19Speaker 2: I like dude. I like his personality. He's he's very gregarious, gregarious,
- 30:27Speaker 2: let's just in layman terms. How about happy go lucky?
- 30:30Speaker 2: How about that? Is that you know, affable? That's probably
- 30:33Speaker 2: too big for Georgia too. He's a he's a he's
- 30:37Speaker 2: like a cool, chill, happy dude. Okay, is that does
- 30:41Speaker 2: that help? Okay? It helps? All right? Cool? Hey Georgia,
- 30:43Speaker 2: I got you, baby, I got you the seventy three nine.
- 30:46Speaker 4: Speaking of words, I'm just waiting to hear about Janet
- 30:49Speaker 4: Jackson again. Uh the three two six? Has there been
- 30:51Speaker 4: a Drew Sanders sighting?
- 30:53Speaker 2: Yes?
- 30:53Speaker 4: Too straight taste. Yeah, he exists, He's not a ghost.
- 30:58Speaker 4: I didn't think he was actually a football player for
- 31:00Speaker 4: the first three years of his career. Now, yeah, he
- 31:02Speaker 4: was injured, he could stay on the field.
- 31:04Speaker 2: You nobody who doesn't exist right now? Who's that is?
- 31:06Speaker 2: Caleb Loner? Yeah?
- 31:07Speaker 4: But like the the need for Caleb Loner in terms
- 31:11Speaker 4: of who he is at this point in his career fast,
- 31:14Speaker 4: I know, I know.
- 31:15Speaker 2: But when you listen, when we get Jeff Legwald sitting
- 31:17Speaker 2: in that chair right there, we're gonna ask him about
- 31:20Speaker 2: this because he's talked to Caleb b Loher's teammates, who say,
- 31:23Speaker 2: we got to get this guy on the field. Leggy,
- 31:26Speaker 2: it was talking about guy sixty seven with a thirty nine.
- 31:29Speaker 2: At first, I mean this, this guy's got athletic ability.
- 31:32Speaker 2: The problem is one of Jeff Legwald's all all time
- 31:36Speaker 2: lines and truths is you can't make the club in
- 31:40Speaker 2: the tub. You can't do it. So if you're talking
- 31:43Speaker 2: about I mean, look, we got six seven tight ends
- 31:45Speaker 2: running around out here and he and he can't get
- 31:47Speaker 2: on the field. That's a problem. Now you can stash
- 31:49Speaker 2: him on practice squad and wait another year, whatever it may.
- 31:52Speaker 2: I think that's the way to do it. I just
- 31:53Speaker 2: think that every every rep you miss is is an
- 31:55Speaker 2: opportunity loss. That's the way I look at it. Last thing, Jesse,
- 31:59Speaker 2: who's coming here next? You know? He turn yourself. Who's
- 32:02Speaker 2: who's on their way to the to the Dove Valley
- 32:04Speaker 2: right now? Anybody like Mitchell or is there anybody on
- 32:08Speaker 2: their way who's gonna get here first? Mitchell get here first.
- 32:11Speaker 2: He'll be the first guy here.
- 32:13Speaker 4: Then it'll be or Coal, and then Columbus, and then
- 32:17Speaker 4: d mac and then Scotty in that order, and then
- 32:19Speaker 4: about ten minutes after Scotty you'll get Lindahl and you'll
- 32:22Speaker 4: get correct Man Okay, that's the I'm guaranteeing that's the order.
- 32:26Speaker 2: Here's here's my issue right now. That guy came by
- 32:28Speaker 2: with the mower right right in front of us, and
- 32:30Speaker 2: I can feel my nose start to do that nose thing.
- 32:33Speaker 2: I'm gonna need a D now. The thing is, I
- 32:35Speaker 2: don't really like to take the D because it makes
- 32:39Speaker 2: me a bit jumpy. You know, anybody who's taking zerteg D,
- 32:43Speaker 2: there's a reason they don't give it to children because
- 32:45Speaker 2: it makes them all, you know, hyper and irve irritable
- 32:47Speaker 2: and all that kind of crap. But I can tell
- 32:49Speaker 2: my nose is gonna be snot written here. I'm gonna
- 32:52Speaker 2: need somebody to bring me a zerteg D and I'm
- 32:54Speaker 2: gonna have to take it this morning.
- 32:56Speaker 4: I can't say what I said about Jada Jackson, but
- 32:58Speaker 4: you can say.
- 32:58Speaker 2: That, yeah, there's rules to this. We're talking about zir
- 33:03Speaker 2: tech being. I don't have one on me. I thought
- 33:05Speaker 2: about bringing one this morning. I'm like, no, I don't
- 33:07Speaker 2: want to be all hopped up on on the on
- 33:10Speaker 2: zyrtech man. But I'm gonna need one because this grass
- 33:13Speaker 2: out here is absolutely kicking me right in the face.
- 33:16Speaker 4: Listen, to us wherever you go on the Altitude Sports
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- 33:27Speaker 4: filling in for Brett Kane. It's Moje, Lombardi and Kane
- 33:30Speaker 4: on Altitude Sports Radio ninety two to five Live from
- 33:32Speaker 4: Broncos training camp. It's Moje, Lombardy and Kane on Altitude
- 33:36Speaker 4: Sports Radio ninety two to five. Rash filling in for
- 33:38Speaker 4: Kane or alongside Mark Moser, Vick Lombardi out today and
- 33:42Speaker 4: tomorrow be hanging out with you guys.
- 33:43Speaker 2: These guys are lazy man until ten on? Have you
- 33:46Speaker 2: ever TV? Have you ever seen less committed lazy s
- 33:50Speaker 2: obs in your life? I mean, I guess you, I
- 33:53Speaker 2: mean you had. The answer is yes, but not much.
- 33:56Speaker 4: Hey, I'm gonna let you disparage your co show hosts
- 34:01Speaker 4: and I'm just gonna sit here and just let it happen.
- 34:03Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say anything to pile on, but I'll
- 34:07Speaker 4: let you go for it. Well, you can talk badly
- 34:09Speaker 4: about your boys behind their back. I'm not gonna do that,
- 34:11Speaker 4: you know, who's never said I want to be invited back.
- 34:14Speaker 2: You know, you know who's never said a cross word
- 34:17Speaker 2: about anyone in their life? Jesse Alfonso, You haven't. You
- 34:22Speaker 2: are very you mean, he hasn't say mean. You don't
- 34:25Speaker 2: say mean things. Would You don't know.
- 34:26Speaker 4: What we talk about until you show. I'm here with
- 34:29Speaker 4: Jesse for ninety minutes before you.
- 34:30Speaker 2: No, he's he's a very nice human being. That being said,
- 34:34Speaker 2: you gotta agree with me, right, those guys are lazy
- 34:36Speaker 2: lima beans. Yes, okay, good because we all know once
- 34:40Speaker 2: training camp comes around, you're not supposed to take any
- 34:41Speaker 2: time off. Hey listen, when Trady camp comes around, bro,
- 34:44Speaker 2: you get your crap out of the way before or after.
- 34:46Speaker 2: You don't. You don't mess with the camp. And these
- 34:48Speaker 2: guys are like, oh yeah, I gotta go to the dispensary.
- 34:51Speaker 4: That's why I saw it, and I took us on
- 34:52Speaker 4: a beach for ten days three weeks ago.
- 34:55Speaker 2: I haven't even taken it. I haven't taken anything, which
- 34:57Speaker 2: is insane. Well that's say, hey, hey, hey, hey, wait
- 35:02Speaker 2: till the boss hees all the days off in when
- 35:04Speaker 2: I'm on the road in October, November, and December. That
- 35:06Speaker 2: I'm just gonna burn because I've got I've got a
- 35:09Speaker 2: billion days offend, a.
- 35:10Speaker 4: Couple extra days in New York. You go on the
- 35:13Speaker 4: La trick into a weekend.
- 35:16Speaker 2: Once the season starts September thirtieth, I'll be like keV
- 35:20Speaker 2: see in January.
- 35:21Speaker 4: Bruh, they play the Stars, He's gonna go play PGA.
- 35:24Speaker 2: Frisco at something about it. Hey, a couple of things here.
- 35:28Speaker 2: Nuggets made a signing, which I think is intriguing. Now,
- 35:30Speaker 2: what has Vic been talking about? What has been his
- 35:32Speaker 2: big thing? Gotta have another guard, Gotta have another dark
- 35:36Speaker 2: Gotta have another guard. So Lonnie Walker, the fourth, the
- 35:39Speaker 2: former spur Laker net and uh and uh sixer, he's
- 35:44Speaker 2: been playing what I think in Israel? Is that correct?
- 35:46Speaker 2: He signed it. He's getting paid a lot of money
- 35:48Speaker 2: to play in Israel, if I'm not mistaken. And they've
- 35:51Speaker 2: signed him to a one year deal. He's at the
- 35:53Speaker 2: age of twenty seven. He's coming back to the NBA.
- 35:55Speaker 2: In his best season was really was last year with
- 35:58Speaker 2: the Sixers. He averaged over twelve points per game. But
- 36:00Speaker 2: you're talking about another guard, and they've beat the Nuggets
- 36:04Speaker 2: have been very forward heavy, so they got another ball
- 36:06Speaker 2: handler to come in here and help out.
- 36:08Speaker 4: I had questions coming in on the text line when
- 36:10Speaker 4: we talked about this in the six am hour, was
- 36:13Speaker 4: what does this mean for the Peyton Watson situation?
- 36:16Speaker 2: It means nothing. In turns the guy's making three mil,
- 36:18Speaker 2: it doesn't. It doesn't mean jack right.
- 36:20Speaker 4: This is a player who's coming in to be a
- 36:22Speaker 4: depth guard, to be the Bruce Brown role. Can he
- 36:25Speaker 4: be as good as Tim Hardaway junior last year?
- 36:28Speaker 2: No?
- 36:29Speaker 4: I don't think so. Lonnie Walker's never been that three
- 36:31Speaker 4: point shooter that Hardaway has been and certainly was last
- 36:34Speaker 4: year for the Nuggets. So I don't think he's like
- 36:37Speaker 4: the Hardaway replacement. But Bruce Brown, Yeah, he can play
- 36:40Speaker 4: that role. It doesn't really change anything that's that the
- 36:45Speaker 4: Nuggets are doing moving forward with Peyton wattson his Nelly
- 36:48Speaker 4: puts the the draft day picture of Lonnie Walker up
- 36:52Speaker 4: on the screen.
- 36:53Speaker 2: I can't really see it. Look at my screen, okay, yeah,
- 36:56Speaker 2: oh yeah, with the spurs hat and his hair is
- 36:58Speaker 2: so high and all that kind yeah like that anymore
- 37:00Speaker 2: he was a kid.
- 37:01Speaker 5: Then how high would you say his hat is off
- 37:03Speaker 5: of his head because of his hair? Is that like
- 37:05Speaker 5: three inches of separation.
- 37:06Speaker 2: It's pretty it's pretty well up easily.
- 37:09Speaker 4: I do think, like from the top of his head,
- 37:12Speaker 4: like where his scalp is to the top of the
- 37:14Speaker 4: hat is a good eight inches, like it's up there.
- 37:18Speaker 2: That thing's just floating on um.
- 37:20Speaker 4: That's Pharrell style of big hat.
- 37:22Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, that's funny, man. That's great.
- 37:25Speaker 4: Other signing news throughout the day Jonathan Taylor getting a
- 37:30Speaker 4: two year extension worth up to forty seven million dollars guaranteed.
- 37:34Speaker 4: At thirty nine million, it is technically a two year,
- 37:37Speaker 4: forty four million dollar deal. So on the heels of
- 37:40Speaker 4: Bjeon Robinson signing his extension in Atlanta, one of the
- 37:43Speaker 4: other elite running backs in the league is in that
- 37:46Speaker 4: twenty two million dollar area.
- 37:48Speaker 2: And that's what Adam Scheffer said the other day. He
- 37:50Speaker 2: said that, all right, this deal's done. Here comes Jonathan
- 37:54Speaker 2: Taylor and Jamier Gibbs. So the last one to get
- 37:57Speaker 2: it done is gonna be Jamiir Gibbs. And he's a
- 37:59Speaker 2: hold in at Detroit Lions camp, which means he's there,
- 38:02Speaker 2: he's physically present, he's you know, at the facilities, and
- 38:06Speaker 2: he's working out and all that kind of thing. He's
- 38:08Speaker 2: just not participating in anything on the field, so he's
- 38:10Speaker 2: a hold in. But look, you've got this should be
- 38:13Speaker 2: the easiest damn thing in the world, unless the Lion's
- 38:15Speaker 2: still want to pay any money. You've got the the
- 38:18Speaker 2: other two super stud running backs, and that's what Jamir
- 38:21Speaker 2: Gibbs is, a super stud running back. You got the
- 38:24Speaker 2: other two guys who did these deals are blueprints now
- 38:27Speaker 2: for your deal, So go get it done. And if
- 38:30Speaker 2: he wants more than be Jon Robinson than.
- 38:32Speaker 4: Jamir Gibbs, yeah, I think he's worth right around the
- 38:36Speaker 4: same money, a little bit.
- 38:37Speaker 2: Less, a little bit less, he's not billion less.
- 38:40Speaker 4: Maybe they're the same level as as you know. Because
- 38:43Speaker 4: of Brett kan Jamir Gibbs is so good. He's a
- 38:45Speaker 4: total study. As you know.
- 38:46Speaker 2: Because of Brett Kane, though, I become not a closeted
- 38:49Speaker 2: Lions fan. No, you are a legit secondary Lions, secondary
- 38:53Speaker 2: Lions fan, correct. I mean I watch a lot of
- 38:55Speaker 2: their games. By the way there, I mean, it's a
- 38:58Speaker 2: fun football team to watch, but when they drive him,
- 39:00Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I think they got a stud. When
- 39:02Speaker 2: I watched him at the beginning, the very beginning, I'm like,
- 39:05Speaker 2: oh my god, this kid is going to be great.
- 39:09Speaker 2: Then I thought, well, maybe because Montgomery is there the
- 39:11Speaker 2: little thunder and lighting, maybe it's offsetting and you know,
- 39:13Speaker 2: making him look better. No, even without Montgomery, dude, he's
- 39:16Speaker 2: a stud. He's an absolute stud. I don't think he's
- 39:19Speaker 2: Robinson stud. He might be right there. Maybe if they
- 39:23Speaker 2: switched teams, they would east do the same thing on
- 39:25Speaker 2: the other team. But to me, if i'm the lines,
- 39:28Speaker 2: I'd like to come under just a tiny bit under
- 39:30Speaker 2: Robinson right around the tailor.
- 39:33Speaker 4: You're probably right. Bijon has led the league over the
- 39:36Speaker 4: last two seasons combined in yards from scrimmage at nearly
- 39:39Speaker 4: forty two hundred in thirty four games. Jamior Gibbs in
- 39:42Speaker 4: the same amount of playing time is just south of
- 39:45Speaker 4: thirty eight hundred yards. So yeah, is that worth a
- 39:47Speaker 4: million dollars?
- 39:48Speaker 2: Sure?
- 39:49Speaker 4: Is that worth a million and a half. Yeah, But
- 39:51Speaker 4: like Gibbs is a twenty two million dollar running back
- 39:54Speaker 4: if you're looking at average value, Moji, it got me thinking.
- 39:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if he was on this football team,
- 40:02Speaker 2: Gibbs was toning the rock on this team, and this
- 40:04Speaker 2: is no offense to JK. Or anybody else.
- 40:06Speaker 4: Yeah, Jak is not Jamiri. He's not one of the
- 40:08Speaker 4: top three backs in the league. But I think jk
- 40:09Speaker 4: is a top ten back if he stays healthy.
- 40:10Speaker 2: I agree.
- 40:12Speaker 4: It got me thinking about the Abs because Detroit has
- 40:16Speaker 4: sat this out and sat this out and dragged their
- 40:18Speaker 4: heels because they didn't want to pay him. You know,
- 40:21Speaker 4: twenty one million dollars or twenty million dollars. Now that
- 40:24Speaker 4: both of these deals come in north of twenty two
- 40:27Speaker 4: in terms of average value, is Detroit looking at themselves
- 40:30Speaker 4: and going, oh, crap, we cost ourselves two million dollars
- 40:32Speaker 4: a year. It got me thinking about the kil mccarr situation.
- 40:36Speaker 4: Knowing that Bill Garon and Quinn Hughes have met in
- 40:40Speaker 4: recent days talking about their expected three year extension to
- 40:44Speaker 4: match up with his brother Jack in New Jersey. Knowing
- 40:47Speaker 4: that Bill Garon overpays players, are we.
- 40:52Speaker 2: He gave Caprice off eighteen million? Just blows my face.
- 40:56Speaker 4: Knowing that, is it a mistake for the Abs to
- 41:00Speaker 4: wait until Quinn Hughes signs his deal because.
- 41:02Speaker 2: They're gonna lose.
- 41:03Speaker 4: They will lose money as a team if Hughes signs,
- 41:06Speaker 4: because you then can't pay Kale less.
- 41:08Speaker 2: Right, I'll do it. Here's the way I feel about this,
- 41:11Speaker 2: and I'm sure this is the way that Joe Sachan.
- 41:13Speaker 2: I think it must be the way he feels about it.
- 41:16Speaker 2: Cal mccarr is getting paid, and I understand you want
- 41:20Speaker 2: to save some money per year you have to. Well,
- 41:24Speaker 2: I understand that Raj he's a future Hall of Famer.
- 41:27Speaker 2: He's all He's gonna go down as one of the
- 41:30Speaker 2: very best defensemen in the history of the game.
- 41:32Speaker 4: Didn't save you from trading a future Hall of famer. Uh,
- 41:37Speaker 4: didn't save you from doing that.
- 41:39Speaker 2: Hey, you think he's a future Hall of famer.
- 41:42Speaker 4: He might be the second best finished player ever to
- 41:44Speaker 4: lay skates up.
- 41:46Speaker 2: Oh crime and behind who's Silani behind? Something to say
- 41:51Speaker 2: with that, you.
- 41:51Speaker 4: Can make the argument for Yi Curry Yory Curry was
- 41:54Speaker 4: always a secondary or.
- 41:56Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot there's still a lot of runway
- 41:58Speaker 2: in his career to greet will future. Okay, we'll see
- 42:02Speaker 2: that being said. I think Joe Sachet's goulna pay Kale
- 42:07Speaker 2: whatever Kale feels comfortable with. I mean, I think that's
- 42:09Speaker 2: what you do. I mean, it's it's I understand the
- 42:14Speaker 2: the the thought process into creating and building a full team,
- 42:19Speaker 2: and you got to save money for this and for that,
- 42:21Speaker 2: and a couple of players on the third and fourth
- 42:23Speaker 2: lines and all that kind of thing. I get all
- 42:24Speaker 2: of that. But cal mccarr is the kind of guy.
- 42:28Speaker 2: You know, what's he feel comfortable with? What does he want?
- 42:30Speaker 2: Can we get that down a little bit? Oh? Okay,
- 42:33Speaker 2: all right, sure, no problem, let's do it. I mean,
- 42:35Speaker 2: he already said cal mccarr is gonna be an Avalanche
- 42:37Speaker 2: for life, So I'm not I'm not even worried about
- 42:39Speaker 2: it whatsoever. So he's gonna be under contract, he guess.
- 42:42Speaker 2: I worry about the overall structure of the salary situation
- 42:44Speaker 2: with the ABS, but as far as getting him done
- 42:47Speaker 2: at any point in time, I don't worry about that
- 42:49Speaker 2: at all. Uh.
- 42:50Speaker 4: How's this with my my rant and intake through thirteen
- 42:53Speaker 4: years adjusted point shares? Similar player Ziggy Palfe not a
- 42:58Speaker 4: Hall of famer, all very good.
- 43:00Speaker 2: But Joe Thornton, Zamy Plfie was a very good occupaer,
- 43:02Speaker 2: very good.
- 43:03Speaker 4: Not a Hall of famer. Joe Thornton Hall of Famer,
- 43:05Speaker 4: Jean Belovoe Hall of Famer. Brad Marshand borderline he's gonna
- 43:10Speaker 4: make it okay, hell, just because just because of who
- 43:12Speaker 4: he is in the league as a person, Stamcos will
- 43:14Speaker 4: make it yep. Brett Hull Hall of Famer, Marion Hosa,
- 43:17Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, Nathan McKinnon hall of Famer. When he
- 43:19Speaker 4: decides to hang him up, Brian Trotci hall of Famer.
- 43:23Speaker 4: He he's he's there, like he's on the trajectory. So
- 43:26Speaker 4: my argument is, like.
- 43:28Speaker 2: You know what, you know what it turned on last night?
- 43:29Speaker 4: You traded away a Hall of Famer because you didn't
- 43:31Speaker 4: want to pay.
- 43:31Speaker 2: Him the money. My buddy Tom Yaswa text three. He couldn't.
- 43:34Speaker 2: My buddy Tom Yaswa texted me. He goes, I'm watching.
- 43:37Speaker 2: He goes, I'm watching Game seven from twenty two or
- 43:39Speaker 2: game six from twenty two. Right now, gets the lightning
- 43:41Speaker 2: right on altitude. He goes, don't tell me what happens.
- 43:45Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh god, it's on right now, because
- 43:47Speaker 2: we'll we'll rerun you know, Avalanche classics, right, We'll we'll
- 43:50Speaker 2: ruin some of those games on altitude. So I tuned in,
- 43:53Speaker 2: and then what do I see? At the very end,
- 43:55Speaker 2: I see, you know, Ranton and getting handed to Stanley
- 43:58Speaker 2: Cup and lifting it over his head and so on
- 44:01Speaker 2: and so forth, and I you know, look, I love
- 44:04Speaker 2: the guy. I did.
- 44:07Speaker 4: You can harbor ill will towards him in his camp
- 44:09Speaker 4: because they force you can do that, but you can't
- 44:13Speaker 4: harbor enough ill will to go He's not a Hall
- 44:15Speaker 4: of Famer, just like I know you hate Nolan Aeronado.
- 44:18Speaker 4: That guy's on the Hall of Fame trajectory to you
- 44:20Speaker 4: can hate the guy, but you can't sit here and go.
- 44:23Speaker 2: You can't hit his weight right now, no power anymore.
- 44:25Speaker 4: You want me to go through I can go through
- 44:27Speaker 4: the stats on Nolan Aernada. I tell you I do
- 44:30Speaker 4: not I do not want you to go through that.
- 44:31Speaker 4: You're gonna that then you're just gonna lose me forever.
- 44:36Speaker 2: Forever. But it's just a.
- 44:37Speaker 4: Wrong take to think that both of those guys simply
- 44:39Speaker 4: because you don't like the way that they Why don't
- 44:41Speaker 4: we want out of the state.
- 44:43Speaker 2: Why don't we have that discussion at a different time.
- 44:45Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, man, Uh yeah, he would
- 44:48Speaker 2: have been in the rafters kind of guy here would
- 44:51Speaker 2: uh ninety six. But you you just take it so personally. Oh,
- 44:57Speaker 2: it's very clear. I can feel the energy. You can
- 45:01Speaker 2: feel all you want, Go feel whatever you want. I
- 45:03Speaker 2: don't care.
- 45:04Speaker 4: Oh it's not personal though. Three oh three, five oh four,
- 45:06Speaker 4: oh nine two five. Where you can reach this today?
- 45:09Speaker 4: Oh by the way, coming up at eight forty five,
- 45:11Speaker 4: Jeff Legwald will join us live in the tent at
- 45:14Speaker 4: nine live from Broncos training camp.