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Dwyane Wade Opens Up on Iconic LeBron Play, Heat Statue with Candace Parker | Trophy Room, Ep. 4 · Bleacher Report

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  Speaker 1: You're gonna come you gonna come back in.
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  Speaker 2: You gonna get my own. I don't know who they
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  Speaker 2: were cheering for you and me, how y'all doing.
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  Speaker 1: They were cheering for you.
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  Speaker 2: That's what Dallas did to me. They put Dirk in
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  Speaker 2: at the same time my last year, so we don't
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  Speaker 2: know who they were cheering for. What's up, y'all?
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  Speaker 1: Well, welcome, welcome to the Trophy Room. This episode is
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  Speaker 1: brought to you by AT and T connectivity you depend
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  Speaker 1: on backed by the AT and T guarantee. But let's uh,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into the trophy room. Let me tell you
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  Speaker 1: the rules real quick. So the rules of the Trophy
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  Speaker 1: Room are that you have to have at least one
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  Speaker 1: trophy that I have in my trophy case. So it's
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  Speaker 1: all about it's easy. Okay. Well, we're gonna read off
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  Speaker 1: your h your accolades. We got three times I'm NBA Champion,
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  Speaker 1: we got NBA Finals MVP, dang thirteen time NBA All Star,
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  Speaker 1: NBA All Star Game MVP, two time Gold Medalists. I
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  Speaker 1: was there for both of those. Kind of dope and
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  Speaker 1: also People magazine list of most beautiful people. We share,
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  Speaker 1: we share, we share that we share that. All right.
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  Speaker 1: This is our first male This is our first male
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  Speaker 1: athlete on the trophy room.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to me, talk to me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's he should be. He's our first male
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  Speaker 1: athlete on the trophy room. This is Dwayne Wade.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome all right. So number three is close to my heart.
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  Speaker 1: It's my jersey number and I have a special share
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  Speaker 1: jersey number two. So see the jersey in the front.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it, but I had to rock the robins
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  Speaker 1: Illinois native Miami heat.
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  Speaker 2: It's nice, right, It really brings out the highlights in
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  Speaker 2: your in your cheek bone.
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  Speaker 1: You were wondering why I decided to go with the
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  Speaker 1: red shoes. But anyway, three different teams, big three food, wine, sports.
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  Speaker 1: I've got three kids, so three holds a very special
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  Speaker 1: place in my heart. And I've got three things that
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  Speaker 1: I would like to ask you about. All right. So
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  Speaker 1: you are a big golfer. You're a big golfer. I'm
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  Speaker 1: out there, Yeah, you are a big golfer. I witnessed
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  Speaker 1: you swinging in the studio, just air swinging. So hitting
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  Speaker 1: a game winner or your viral hole in one?
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  Speaker 2: What kind of game? What are we talking about? Were
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  Speaker 2: talking about a regular game winning Soccramento on a Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: or we just.
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  Speaker 1: Dropping talking about some better feeling.
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  Speaker 2: It was like it was like the same feeling like
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  Speaker 2: hitting that holding one at pebble was like, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I just want a championship with the.
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  Speaker 1: Game winning you ran around like you did.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with holding one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, because it's not what I meant. I tried
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  Speaker 1: to recreate your jump on the scores table. I think
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  Speaker 1: all of us did, Kobe, Michael, you think of that,
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  Speaker 1: and I did that in Chicago. So i'll give you that.
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  Speaker 1: If it's a regular game winner, then no, right, So
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  Speaker 1: like a playoff game winner, yeah, okay, I'll give you that.
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  Speaker 1: Fashion is a huge part of who you are, and
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  Speaker 1: you've been a part of pioneering the movement men wearing caprice.
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  Speaker 1: Can you give us a little bit of the men
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  Speaker 1: wearing caprice story? I heard a brief story about it,
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  Speaker 1: but I just I couldn't believe it. We needed to
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  Speaker 1: bring it back.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's yes, that's one of the things that I'm
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  Speaker 2: so proud of that I'm a part of me and
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  Speaker 2: winning caprice. I'm so proud of that. It was not
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  Speaker 2: on purpose I had. I was back in Chicago. You know,
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  Speaker 2: when we go back to our home hometown, we got
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  Speaker 2: to we like to dress a certain way, we got
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  Speaker 2: to look a certain way. So I had like a
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  Speaker 2: certain like this Gucci suit that I was like, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is this one. That's what I'm gonna hit him with. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: go Chi look like go Chi. I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm about hit him with this one. This is the one.
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  Speaker 2: And then it came to the crib. I was about
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  Speaker 2: to get dressed, and them joints. It was like this
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  Speaker 2: big and I was like, what do I do? Do
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  Speaker 2: I walk in with a sweatsuit, a tech suit or
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  Speaker 2: do I still rock this suit?
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  Speaker 1: And you just did it?
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  Speaker 2: And I was just like, you know what, I got
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  Speaker 2: the confidence, so I'm about to rock. It was.
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  Speaker 1: The most beautiful people.
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  Speaker 2: Oh this is way after I got that long time.
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  Speaker 2: That long time.
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  Speaker 1: It was the swag from that.
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  Speaker 2: I got the most beautifl people. But I knew the
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  Speaker 2: game was on T n T and I knew that
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  Speaker 2: the guys in the studio was about to have a
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  Speaker 2: field day. And I'm in, I'm in. I'm into the jokes,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't mind jokes, and so I was like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, let me give them something else to
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  Speaker 2: talk about as well. And so yeah, I walked there
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  Speaker 2: with my capris.
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  Speaker 1: On loud and proud.
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  Speaker 2: Wow hit them ankles. I was good.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, real quick. I know this is adding to the
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  Speaker 1: three that I was supposed to do, but this is
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  Speaker 1: kind of like a b of that. Uh, you're no
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  Speaker 1: shirt because I mean you you never have no keep
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  Speaker 1: it on, keep your shirt on, keep the buttons closed.
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  Speaker 1: But what is it with you just taking your shirt
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  Speaker 1: off like you just because I was I was at
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  Speaker 1: your party last year? Me and Love were like, where
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  Speaker 1: is the wade? Oh the dude in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the dance floor with no shirt? So where you.
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  Speaker 2: Just want to no shirt on?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's what we're gonna go with.
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  Speaker 2: I feel freer when I ain't got no shirt on,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Thank you, We're gonna see me.
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  Speaker 1: Do not egg him on, does not need anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I feel free with no shirt on, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? Like right now, but I'll be more comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're good, We're good. Okay. Do you want AT
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  Speaker 1: and T to say our sponsor? Okay, your nickname is
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  Speaker 1: the Flash given to you by the big Diesel shack
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  Speaker 1: fellow self, Yes, yes, yes, So I want you to
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  Speaker 1: just first thing that comes to your mind, nickname somebody?
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  Speaker 1: Obviously Lebron's King James, but do you have another nickname
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  Speaker 1: for him?
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean for who?
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  Speaker 1: For Lebron?
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  Speaker 2: Six?
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  Speaker 1: Okay six? What about Shaq instead of Diesel or Superman
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  Speaker 1: or him?
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  Speaker 2: Big fellow?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, big fella?
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  Speaker 2: What about Chris bosh CB Okay?
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  Speaker 1: That was I think we need to we need to
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  Speaker 1: get better with that one. Jimmy Butler, twenty one savage, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Cannae Parker, Nicolas.
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  Speaker 2: The goat, my goat. Well, let's sister, all the things,
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  Speaker 2: all that, anyone text me back though, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: This dude is act up here, acting different. This is wild. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get into your Heat culture because we
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  Speaker 1: always hear about the Miami Heat and I want to
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  Speaker 1: get into that Miami Heat journey because it was a
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  Speaker 1: really unique one coming into two thousand and three. You
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  Speaker 1: were drafted to the Heat organization during that draft. I
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  Speaker 1: know how I would do it if I were to
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  Speaker 1: draft that draft, because I was actually surprised that you
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  Speaker 1: fell to Miami. To me, if I were to redraft
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  Speaker 1: and mind you for those that know Lebron, Mellow, Bosh
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  Speaker 1: Wade all in the same draft, all lottery, Darko militic.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll leave that. We'll leave that.
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  Speaker 2: Alone because he fight Darko fighting. We leave that alone
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  Speaker 2: is fighting.
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  Speaker 1: I would have put you at number two to Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: How do you think that that journey would have looked
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  Speaker 1: different for you?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I would My career would have probably started a
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  Speaker 2: little later. They had. They had a lot of veterans
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  Speaker 2: on that team, team that was ready made for a championship.
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  Speaker 2: When did they win a championship that I think they
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  Speaker 2: won a championship our rookie year four. Yeah, they run
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  Speaker 2: a championship our rookie year, So I would have had
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  Speaker 2: to wait. I think the thing about miamis we sucked
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  Speaker 2: when I got there, so I was like, hey, get
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  Speaker 2: his young kid the ball. So but I would have
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  Speaker 2: learned a lot, probably more about the NBA game and
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  Speaker 2: like what to do off the court, what to do
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  Speaker 2: when it come to taking care of my body. All
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  Speaker 2: these things been around Chauncey and Rip and you know
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  Speaker 2: the guys they had there, so different paths, but I
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  Speaker 2: think it all would have ended the same way.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think your style would have been the same
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  Speaker 1: not being in Miami versus being into trade.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like I'm from the shy Okay, just
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  Speaker 2: wondering to the rack.
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  Speaker 1: Well, something happened in two thousand and four that shocked
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  Speaker 1: the NBA, much like a trade that recently occurred that
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  Speaker 1: shocked the world. Shaquille O'Neal was leaving the Lakers and
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  Speaker 1: was traded to Miami, and he specifically said he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to play with you. What did that feel like to
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  Speaker 1: be a young player to have a I mean, perennial
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  Speaker 1: All star, one of the all time greats that wants
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  Speaker 1: to play with you. How was that? What emotions did
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  Speaker 1: you go through? And also like the balance of hey,
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  Speaker 1: this has been my team, how do we fit together?
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  Speaker 2: Well? Pressure, that's what came with Shack because big fellow
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  Speaker 2: was he he was obviously dominant for so many years.
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  Speaker 2: I think they had just came off of multiple final
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  Speaker 2: appearances in LA and championships, championships, just lost.
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  Speaker 1: To Detroit Assistance the year before before, not have a
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  Speaker 1: fourth peat boom.
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  Speaker 2: So now he gets traded in Miami. You know he
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  Speaker 2: mad obviously right. It's been some beef. Right, we heard
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  Speaker 2: about the beef. So but he comes there and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm coming off my first year, just happy to be
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  Speaker 2: in the NBA. My jersey is not even in the
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  Speaker 2: malls yet, Like, no one knows me like that. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't have this, they didn't have that in the malls
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  Speaker 2: in Miami.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I used to go all the time, I know. So
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  Speaker 2: I felt a little pressure right away, right because, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was playing with one of the most dominant players
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  Speaker 2: ever played and I've never played with a player like that,
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  Speaker 2: and I love my college teammates, but no one was
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  Speaker 2: shack and so that was the first indus reaction. But
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  Speaker 2: then after that I turned pressure into opportunity. I was like, man,
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  Speaker 2: this is what I've been waiting for. This is actually
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  Speaker 2: what I've been screaming to everybody and letting them know
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  Speaker 2: that I'm actually good. Y'all just ain't seen me. And
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, they're about to see now. And
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  Speaker 2: so I turned that into like, this is an unbelievable opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: And Shaq, to his credit, he was amazing with me
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  Speaker 2: right away. He just kind of calmed me. He was like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you, I'm gonna help you. Become one
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  Speaker 2: of the greatest players ever played. And when someone like
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  Speaker 2: that sees that in you, all your chest has poked out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, so you think I'm good? Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: just came from Kobe and Penny and like, I know
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  Speaker 2: your rap sheet, and so he puts so much confidence
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  Speaker 2: in me early that I was just like, all right, well,
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  Speaker 2: let's go do this. This is my opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: So with that being said, you go on and lead
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  Speaker 1: your team to a championship with big fella, of course,
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  Speaker 1: but you're the star in that. Being young, it was what.
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  Speaker 2: Three years Yeah, I was twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: Three years after being drafted in Miami, you win a championship.
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  Speaker 1: What was that like? Because when you first got to
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  Speaker 1: the organization, obviously you said it you guys sucked. That
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  Speaker 1: was quick in terms of your turnaround, but also for
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  Speaker 1: you to be at the lead at such a young
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  Speaker 1: age and only three years experience in the league.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, it was actually the easiest thing
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  Speaker 2: for me to do. I had a lot of play
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  Speaker 2: with Gary Payton, play with Antoine Walker. I played with
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  Speaker 2: James Posey White Chocolate like we had a we Pat
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  Speaker 2: made a thirteen player trade the year after we just
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  Speaker 2: lost in Game seven of the East Commerce Finals. Thought
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  Speaker 2: he was crazy, but he brought in veterans, he brought
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  Speaker 2: in people that can come. I was, you know, I wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: I was good, but it's a lot of things I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know about the game of basketball, the NBA game,
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  Speaker 2: and it was a lot of that was covered up
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  Speaker 2: by these individuals. And so my job was to be
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  Speaker 2: the young bull, like be what nobody else can be.
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  Speaker 2: And they just relieved that. It was just so much
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  Speaker 2: pressure taking away from me because when GP come in,
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  Speaker 2: he checking other team's best player. Posey's guarding another team
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  Speaker 2: best player. You know. So me and U D being
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  Speaker 2: young guys, we just had to do what we do.
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  Speaker 2: And when you just got to go do what you
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  Speaker 2: do and you ain't got to think about it. Now
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  Speaker 2: it's easy. And so Shaq he was still getting double teams,
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  Speaker 2: so I wasn't really double team. I had like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of single coverage and I just went to work, simple.
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  Speaker 1: As that that that simple give me the ball.
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  Speaker 2: He just it was They was like, yo, young fella,
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  Speaker 2: is your team, Like we're gonna go as you take us.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, well that's what I've
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  Speaker 2: been waiting on and I got a lones of like,
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  Speaker 2: look at my team. I got a lownes of money,
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  Speaker 2: I got like, I got a squad to go out
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  Speaker 2: here and try to win a championship.
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  Speaker 1: But you're downplaying the trust because as Vets sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: don't trust young players.
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  Speaker 2: Oh definitely.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll say this, and this was the difference in
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  Speaker 1: Luca coming in the league. And I remember sitting in
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  Speaker 1: the studio with you saying, there's a different there's a
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  Speaker 1: different aura that a young player has when the Vets
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  Speaker 1: trust that young player. And I think you were amongst
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  Speaker 1: that and having veterans that trusted the ball in your
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  Speaker 1: hands and your decision making. Before we go on to
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  Speaker 1: your next championship with the heat, can you talk about
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  Speaker 1: that spin move that you do that we've been trying.
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  Speaker 1: I've been trying to recreate this in the studio. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: help me break this down. We got Chris Johnson trainer here.
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  Speaker 1: He knows in many workouts, I'm like, okay, teach me
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  Speaker 1: the d Wade footwork for the spin because it didn't
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  Speaker 1: matter you guessed wrong if you were a defender. There
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  Speaker 1: were so many times that I would tell my brother, listen,
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  Speaker 1: d Wade is going to spin. Okay, he's gonna do it,
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  Speaker 1: and then I would see him on Sports Center that
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  Speaker 1: night on Top ten, d Wade was spinning dunk on somebody.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, I just want to know where that came from.
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  Speaker 2: Well, one of my coldest spins was definitely on your brother.
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  Speaker 1: It was it's still it's still in the family group chat,
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  Speaker 1: it's still on the anniversary.
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  Speaker 2: It just really came from understanding. I mean, a defender
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  Speaker 2: cuts you off. So I was very fast, I was strong,
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  Speaker 2: I had all the all those tubes, and so defender
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  Speaker 2: trying to keep up with me being fast and being
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  Speaker 2: strong and getting a step. My first step was really fast.
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  Speaker 1: That's why you flash.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they call me flash. And so knowing that,
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  Speaker 2: knowing that you got to work so hard to catch
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  Speaker 2: up with to me and I had great breaks at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, and so I knew that once I
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  Speaker 2: got a step on you and you were rushing to
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  Speaker 2: get back in front. Now I got you. Now I
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  Speaker 2: got you in this mixer, and so I'm really just
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  Speaker 2: playing with you because actually I'll beat you already. But
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  Speaker 2: let me just let me go with my MJ bag.
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  Speaker 2: Let me go with my Kobe bag. Let me get
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  Speaker 2: you on my back. And so I knew that the
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  Speaker 2: defender maybe can cut me off, but he can't cut
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  Speaker 2: me off and get to this move and get to
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  Speaker 2: that movie. He can't do it all. And so you know,
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  Speaker 2: my job was to make sure that I put so
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  Speaker 2: much pressure on you to think I'm getting past you,
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  Speaker 2: just to use your momentum and go the other way.
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  Speaker 2: And so I know what I'm doing. You don't know,
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  Speaker 2: and so your job is to go and stop. My
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  Speaker 2: job is go stop and spend. So I already knew that,
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  Speaker 2: and so I just I had so much fun doing it.
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  Speaker 2: And I will read the body, and so as I'm spinning,
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  Speaker 2: I'm seeing where your body is. If you're still over here,
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  Speaker 2: that fade over there open, if you're trying to rush
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  Speaker 2: back to get that way, I'm gonna hit back and
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  Speaker 2: go back to the baseline. And so just body movement
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  Speaker 2: was really important in my game. I don't think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people understand I watched the bottom moving a lot,
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  Speaker 2: and that's how I made my counters.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna get in the gym later and discuss it.
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  Speaker 1: I need to know.
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  Speaker 2: Looking at me when I'll be talking like this, like
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  Speaker 2: what are you talking to?
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  Speaker 1: Person? When you get in there, he acts like it's
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  Speaker 1: just so simple and so easy, like you got it, Like,
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  Speaker 1: don't hype me up. I don't have it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. I don't know the footword
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  Speaker 1: to that. But let's get to let's get to the
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  Speaker 1: Big Three era. Okay, And most of these questions, I
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  Speaker 1: know you so well that I know some of these answers,
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  Speaker 1: but this question I don't know the answer to. And
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  Speaker 1: I and if any of you all do, please shout
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: me out. But when Lebron did his decision, Okay, I
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: remember watching earlier in the day yourself and Chris Bosh.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Basically you were re signing Chris Bosh announced he was
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: signing with the Heat. Did you know Lebron? Okay? But
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I need the story because you were like a clear
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: actor in that you were like doing all that. I'm like,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: this dude knows that Lebron is coming to the Heat,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: So I need to know what went into that. How
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: did this come together? That's a that's a long, Well,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: give me the short short.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: When I knew, and then I'm gonna tell you why
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I was acting. But I'm tell you why. So I
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: knew on July fourth, July fourth, after we went through
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: free agency and our private meetings and all the things
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: that we had to do to, you know, make sure
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: that we all was on the same page. July fourth,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: we all got on the phone and we all decided
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: that are we gonna do this signing day at that time,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the first day you could sign with July seventh. So
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Chris and I signed July seventh, and Lebron is going
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: to sign July eighth. So I know this. But while
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I was a little shook because Lebron stopped answering his
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: phone after July fourth, then hear from the man, so
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: you know it, reaching out to him making sure we're
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: still good because I know that this.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Is a very so you dou did you triple text?
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I was doing all I ain't want to be. I
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: don't want to do too much, you know what I'm saying.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, hey, we're still good. So me and
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Chris was like, all right, we're just gonna go ahead
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: and we're gonna we're gonna play together even if Bron
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: don't come. We like we like this too, this too
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: man thing and so I didn't know if he was
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: gonna say he was bringing this town. He said, I'm
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: taking my time into South Beach. We don't even play
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: in South Beach, so I didn't know. It took me
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: a minute when he said that, I was like, where
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: he going? So Bron Yeah, he got quiet about four days.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I a little nervous.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Hemold you, so how early did you all start thinking
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: about coming together to play? Because I was at the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Olympics when there were rumblings and I was there. I
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: was there at the Olympics in eight when you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: in twenty twelve and all of that, when well one
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and O eight, Kobe kept planting seeds because you know,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: OKAC was going through their growth, and so Kobe was like,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: you don't want to play with you know, Kobe being
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the antagonist planting seeds with you know, James Harden and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Russ trying to get the competitive advantage. So I was
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: at the Olympics and I saw like you all hang
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: out and you know, we played cards and all that stuff,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: and the conversations of what if When did it start
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to really be like seriously a thought.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I don't remember exact time, but it wasn't in No. Eight.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: It wasn't even it was a.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Summer twenty twelve.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Come on now, No, no, we played it. We signed.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: And eight then yes, no, two thousand and eight. It
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: would have been the.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: We didn't do it then, Okay, everybody, everybody keeps saying
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: we did. We did not have this conversation.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Two.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Why you don't want to believe me?
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: No, I just I don't think. I think it's almost
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: like you we passed the time that the NBA can
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: find us, so you can talk about this is a
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: safe space you talk about it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you my truth. I feel like I'm talking
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: to my wife right now. I'm telling you my truth.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Eight.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: This is my truth.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll believe you.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: We but the conversation the first time it happened that
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: it became like a real conversation. I remember getting a
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: call from Hank. I was in Chicago. I had a
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: house downtown in Chicago, and Hank was like, hey, come
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to the office. And this was around the time where
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: we were getting ready for free agency in the sentence
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: a little bit before, and he was like, Hey, Lebron
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: and Leon Leon Rose was Lebron's agent at the time, Hey,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: we want to get on the call. We want to
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: talk about something, and so we all got on a
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: call and actually the conversation. Bron brought the conversation up
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: to me and Hank on the phone, and I was like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: you'll play with me, Bro, Like I never thought me
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: and Brown would play again, Like we love playing the
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: All Stars and the Olympics, but not the regular season,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Like that's my favorite person him and Kobe to play against.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Not thinking I'm gonna play with the guy, and he
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: was like, yo, what's up. I was like, well, what's up?
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: And we started dating.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: History that's what happens, and you all went on to
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: win championships together. You know, what is it like to
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: play on the floor with someone like you just said,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Like you just described that's your favorite person to play against.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: But also, you guys created so much magic in the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Olympics when you all played together, and I saw the
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: joy that you all had. So what was it like
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: to win championships with someone you were drafted with in
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the same class with Chris and Broun. That craziness.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: How to let that happen?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I don't understand that that's wild, But how was it?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: How was it winning championships? With with Braun and with
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Chris Bosh.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: You know, I think if I could put it, like
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: in my life now, it's all I want to do
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: in my life today is really want to do things
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: and work with people that I really mess with, that
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I really like that, I really want to be around
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: that I like minded, you know, all these things, and
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: it makes it so much easier when you are around
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: individuals that way. And so it was the best. It
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: was the greatest part of my basketball career those four
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: years to get up every day and know I'm around
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: like minded people that we all are trying to accomplish
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the same things, and just the chemistry we were the heatles,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: like we sold out every state that we went in,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: not even just the arena, like we sold out the hotels,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: people with buying rooms to stay in hotels like we
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: were doing so much. And so to be able to
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: go through your basketball journey and have those four years
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: where you know you actually are who you think you are,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like that was a We
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: was a show, and we did it together as brothers,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and the relationship we had just continued to keep building,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and so we had so much fun doing it. And
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I gave up about five thousand points to Lobs. So
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Lebron too, By the way, I could have had about
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: twenty seven thousand points if I didn't play with Brin.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: So, speaking of which with the Lobs, you know you
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: talk about AJ Brown and DeVante Smith doing recreating their
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: lob as a celebration touchdown. I mean, what is that like?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Because every time you see it, every time I see
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a Bron and d Wade shirt, it's that like that
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: is etched in my mind that so did you just
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: do it? You just did it?
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I just did it. Okay, So I don't no matter
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: how many times I say this, people don't understand that
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: that was not a lot. So what were you It
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: was a bounce pass. I didn't throw a lot to
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Lebron on that play. I threw a bounce pass. And
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: then I did this what to the crowd? And the
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: reason I did that because we was back in Milwaukee
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: where my jerseys hanging in the raptors as a Marquette player,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: and they was booing us, and I'm like, y'all, don't
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: boom this thing. What happens when I come to town?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: And so I was like, oh, okay. So when I
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: threw it back. I know what six is gonna do
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: And I just was like what And they caught that
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: picture which was called it It was a bounce pass
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: that had been a crazy lib though about.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: A Yeah, but you're a flash, so I I didn't
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: doubt it.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: But it don't matter how many times I said, people
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: still going to say that that was a lot.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Well, you must know where I'm going with this, because
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: you talked about retired jerseys, and you've got your jersey
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: retired at Marquette, got your jersey retired as a heat.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: What is that like when you're standing there and you're
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: watching your jersey go up into the rafters flashback, You
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: weren't a heavily recruited high school athlete. You're known to
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: talk about that. You didn't come up as like this
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: heralded super superstar out of high school. You worked your
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: way at Marquette and you all were in the final four,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and then you went on and declared early to the draft.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: But what is that like having gone through your grind,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: your experience, your journey. So then and I'll see both
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: of those jerseys hanging in the rafters.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Just you see the work, you see the sacrifice, like
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: when I'm watching that jersey go up, I'm seeing everything
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: that was unseen, the unseen hours. You know, everything that
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the fans got a chance to see. That's great, it's
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: good for them. But the hardest part of the whole
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: journey was what you did not get to see. The injuries,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: you know, getting the call that I'm having that I'm
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: gonna be a father at twenty years old. You know,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: the divorces, the lawsuits, like everything that you had do it,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: that you went through, that's what you're looking at go
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: up in them rafters. And so for me, man, just
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: it's overcoming. It's my story and each time, each stop,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I want to give you my best version of me.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: And when you're able to walk away, and you know
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: this because we are, we're here. What You've got more
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: awards than I have and more things going on than
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: me to be able to be great. And where every
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: stop that you've been at from middle school the way
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: to you know to the last place you played, they
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: want to put your jersey in there. That means that
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: not only you were a great athlete, but that means
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: you was a great person. That means you represented yourself
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: and the organizational university or whatever it was, to the
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: highest of the high so so much respect when they
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: decided to put that that jersey up in the raptors.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: And so for me, I just see the journey throughout
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: and just understanding, just being a very proud of myself.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Like you, you gotta patch yourself on the back sometime
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: because as athletes, we don't, right, we just got to
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: push through. We just got to get to the next game.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: We gotta get to the next play, we gotta get
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: to the next day. But in those moments, yeah, you
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: get to patch yourself in the back from the journey.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I don't have a statue. I don't I don't have
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: a statue.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: So we want to.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Be up here talking about all the things that oh
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Candice has I don't have a statue. Next no, no, no, no,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: that's next level. When you have a statue that is
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: etched in stone and it will be there and it
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: will be something that you can take your kids, you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: great grandkids all those things better.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: You know, I am, first of all, my grandkid's not
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: gonna know anything about Nate Smith, James Nate Smith. They're
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: gonna think I invented basketball. This statue was the first
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: statue ever invented. I invented basket. My story is gonna
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: be crazy when they when I get older.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Well, tell me about the statue. Tell me about the process. Yeah,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: enlighten me, because I don't know what that what that's like.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: You will what was cool about the process for me.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: We are, you know, two kids from Chicago. We have
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Chicago ties, and we grew up knowing uh and seeing
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's statue that he got in nineteen ninety two
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: ninety three, the coldest statue ever. When I got opportunity
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: to do my statue, I only wanted one person to
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: do my statue and it's the same person who did
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's statue. Because I never would even knew about
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: a statue, never even it's not something that that was
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: in our path or something you can have until I
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: saw Michael Jordan have one, and so to be a
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: to go down to Chicago, I had about four or
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: five visits. I spent at least three to four hours
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: each time, and to be able to create this statue
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: from wires to clay and then eventually into bronze, it
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: was an amazing experience to go through. I think The
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: one thing of it all that was so emotional as
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I was forming my own is Kobe and Gg's statue
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: was getting created right next to mine, and so I
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: felt so I don't know what to feel. I had
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: so many emotions to be able to look at something
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: that you know, I know would be around long at there.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I'm here, but I'm sitting here watching my brothers not
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: getting a chance to go through the same experience. And
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: so to be able to experience something in that magnitude,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I feel so blessed and I feel so lucky to
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: have been able to do that. And also too, I
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: just got to say this what people want to do
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: in this world we live in. People want to take
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: your moments away from you. When my statue got unveil,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: people took my moment away from me. People take moments
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and they make them jokes, they make it funny, they
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: make it all these things. And it was a big
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: moment for me for so many reasons. And everyone they
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: try to take my moment, you know what I mean,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: That's what people will do to us. They will take
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: your moment. And so the process was so incredible, and
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I'm so blessed to be one of the ones to
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: say that he's experienced. You know what that was, and
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I got a chance to see it.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: But d Wade, you don't let people take your moment
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: because you don't ever let people take your joy.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: They tried, do you know what I mean?
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: They tried, But the way that you have always walked.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: And this is one thing that I have respected about
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: this man constantly. And I always tell you this, like
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: through texts whenever I see you. If I haven't said
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: it this weekend, I probably will later after I beat you.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: In spades. I respect him because d Wade is who
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: he is and he is unapologetic for the way that
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: he operates, and I just love that about him. I
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: love that you do not let things change you. And
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: that has been something that I have noticed from back
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: in our days. And I know this might be like
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: something really small, but as a college kid, I didn't
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: have an io like we were. I was eating Papa
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: John's for pregame meals and things like that. Thanks I
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: went to the sb's in two thousand cheese five, No
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: it was two thousand and six, because it was hey day,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: like it was like him. D Wade was him right,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: and my brother and him share the same agent, and
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Hank was like, hey, d Wade, take care of AP's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: little sister. So I get to the sb's and he's like,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: where are you going. I'm like, what, I got two
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: older brothers. I'm good. Like you know, he he's always
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: stepped into that role. So I get back to college
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and he sent me a d Wade Sidekick edition and
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: it had the little basketball grip on the back and
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I still have it, like it is still in my
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: office in my little tree and get drawer. Because it
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: was such a small thing. I mean, I became the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: woman on campus because I had it. Nobody else had it,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and I was one of the first to have it.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: But it's just stuff like that that you meet people.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: And I know it's something small, but it meant a
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: lot to me. And so I just want to say
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful for the person that you are, that you
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: always show up for people that you love. You have
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: showed up for me in ways I can't even explain.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: So I just sorry not to get you know, but
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I feel like you should give people their flowers.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: All right, it's my dog. We eat high Holburgers when
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: we get back.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, we're gonna eat some High Hoburgers been up on
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: High Hope. We're trying to get the sponsored by High Home.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: You are a podcaster in retirement. I'm a podcaster. Something
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: we'd love to do is we love to make guarantees.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: So I would love for you to play a rapid
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: fire game of guaranteed be presented by AT and T guarantee. Okay,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: So I'll say a statement and you have to finish
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: it off.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: With guarantee, Like I gotta say guaranteed.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna you have to guarantee it. So like,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: tell me what you guarantee that Heat are guaranteed.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: To to talk about heat culture.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: A ka, he doesn't know if they gonna make the
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: playoffs this year.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: They guaranteed to talk about heat coaching. Okay.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Lebron and Luca are guaranteed.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: To sell a lot of jerseys.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: The NBA is real service. Okay, I see, I see
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: that the NBA Finals are guaranteed to look like, huh,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: who's gonna be in the NBA Finals?
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Why do you need to ask that.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Kind of fit with the guarantee. That's why I had
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: to go with the flow of the show.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: You understand, Balsta Celtics in the East versus h who
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: what oh because y'all got Jimmy now y'all, well, y'all,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: y'all like I got Boston win at all.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: But but there's too but there's two teams that have
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to compete.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: So what I know. See, I'm having a hard time. Okay,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I wanted to say, okay, see right, but also to.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: The best record in the league, I know, but.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Also getting to that level. They haven't been at that
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: level yet. They lost in the second round last.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Year to Luca, who went on to play in the final. Okay,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: this is your guarantee.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: This is how this is us on TV. But you
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: see that this is out but.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: You have to pick because you said, okay, see it's
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: not I'm thinking.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking. I'm thinking, Okay, we're gonna keep it at Boston. Okay,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: see okay, so we keep it there, all right?
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: And what is one thing you and Shack are we're
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: guaranteed to get in an argument about nothing.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: We guarantee not to get an argument about nothing. We
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: haven't gotten one argument. He too, I'm gonna arguing with
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: that big dude. What we argue about.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: That's what I was like, I'm in the studio, which
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: all honest, All right, that's your answer. Okay, So let's
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: talk about ownership because this is something that you have
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: blazed a trail in. I'm going to go through a
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: few investments and I'm taking his lead on these type
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: of things because from a business standpoint, I looked at
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Magic Johnson, I looked at Kobe, and now I'm looking
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: at you, based especially off this list. Co owner of
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Utah Jazz, co owner of the Chicago Sky, co owner
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: of Real Salt Lake MLS. Ownerships take in Utah Hockey
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Club iNHL which had you been to a hockey game
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: before that?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: H one?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Okay? Cool? So you know the rules of like the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: three lines and all that stuff.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I was learning that well, learning it all that the game,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Like what what does it?
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: What are we doing? Why are they subbing all of
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: their players? Okay? Owner of Wade Sellers, which is amazing,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: by the way, I'm a wine drinker. I love it
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: and it's specializing in California Cabs. Owner of fifty ninth
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: in Prairie Entertainment production company. A lifetime partnership. Dang lifetime
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: with leaning goodness. Okay, So what explain was this something
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: that you just ended your basketball career and you were like,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna just dibble and dabble over here.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: How did this journey in the business world begin.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: It probably started when I was twenty seven, actually, when
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I tore my shoulder up and I had to knee
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: surgeon in the same year, just being somebody who was like, oh, okay,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: so this can be taken away from me. That's when
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Hank and Lisa and myself started the business journey and
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: a lot out of it. If you guys know, it's
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: a relationship journey, you know what I mean, Like you
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: can know a lot, you better, you better know a
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: lot of people, And you know, I started the journey
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: to build relationships. I asked so many questions, and so
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: whenever I'm around somebody, I'm just all I'm just asking
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: them all kind of questions about what they do that
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I don't do because I don't know. I've mastered basketball.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I have a master's in basketball, as you do as well.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: And so that journey started at twenty seven for me.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: So when I got done playing basketball at thirty seven,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I had built up enough, I built up enough relationships
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: and I was able to now tap into those relationships.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: And you know, the first one that I would say
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: took a chance in a sense was Utah was a
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: jazz when it came to the big investments that we
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: normally don't get an opportunity to get into or get
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: a chance to see. And it was a relationship that
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I built with Ryan Smith, you know, by some camps
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: that I was hosting and also golfing and things of
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: that nature. And for someone to come and see value
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: in you, I think is the thing that I appreciate
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: it most because when you retire and leave the game,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: you don't know, you have no idea because you've put
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: so much into something and so you don't know, you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: what your next you move necessarily would be from a
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: purpose standpoint, like what am I going to do that
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: gives me purpose? And how people are gonna view me?
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: And so Ryan coming in Andy's showing me the value
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: of how he viewed me really gave me confidence to
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: continue to keep going in these other investments. And so
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to diversify too, just trying to be
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: like me, try to be like I am and not
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: just be you know, one thing, So to do all
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: those things and to be involved in all those things,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: and you got to have an amazing family. And so
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I have an incredible family that supports me. I have
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: an incredible team that supports me. And so yeah, I'm
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: trying to be a leader of the pack. As you said,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: we had cold, and we're always looking at cold like, okay,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: he doing it, and then we don't have cold. And
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: so I look at it as responsibility for the next
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: generation that's coming out to say, look at the way
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: these the way's doing it and then give you guy
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: the confidence to go out there and put on and
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: do you all things. And so I'm glad that I'm
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: able to, you know, to do those things that it's
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: like kind of trailblazing in some way, in some ways, some.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Ways, in some ways, in a lot of ways.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so in a lot of ways. And I appreciative and.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: In a way, I want to segue into my favorite
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: part of you. I said, you know, you being who
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you are and being consistent. Yes, that's the second though,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: because my favorite is you as a father and we talk.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: We have these conversations about our kids all the time.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: All the time.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Our kids go to school together, and we literally will
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: meet each other At high Hole Cheeseburger, I'll run into
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: him with a big old double cheeseburger and we'll have
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: conversations about our kids. And I think that's what we've
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: always done. What can you say about how they change
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: who you are and how you look at the world.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: You know, I think the one thing that's so great
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: about our kids is we get a chance to see
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: all the best, the best versions of ourselves in them.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: You know, you know, it's it's something real and wrong
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and pure about kids. It's not nothing fake, it's authentic.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm able to see that through my kids. And
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: you know, one thing I've been able to do is,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: first of all, I'm proud that, you know, my lineage
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: will go on when I'm not here. I'm proud to
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: know that, you know, there's gonna be some ways some
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: people that look like me out here when I'm gone.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: People's everybody, everybody.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, your genes are very strong.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: But I'm I'm in love with my kids, you know,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Like I love the fact that I have this opportunity
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: to to leave an imprint, you know, h in their lives,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: on their lives, and I wake up every day trying
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: to do that in all the facets, and so I
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: really just in love with my kids, so thankful to
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: be you know, it's an honor that I was chosen
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: to be a father. We all know that it's not
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: something that is chosen for everyone. And so I have
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: a twenty three year old son and I have a
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: six year old daughter in between, and so I've been
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: blessed to be a parent pretty much my whole life,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: and it's given me purpose. It's made me understand what
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: my why is. It's giving life the purpose of being
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: bigger than yourself, and it's great for everyone who lives
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: life and focus on yourselves. Please do that. Please focus
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: on you and learn who you are. But when you
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: were able to find something that's bigger than you and
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: give you purpose, you know, you just want that and
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I just won't. I love that. So I just want
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: to be as much as I can be, you know,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: involved in kids' lives. But I don't run day life
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: in a sense of I try to make them like me,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: or I try to make them someone they're not or
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: somebody they're not. You know, I understand that, and I'm
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: a facilitator, I truly am, and so I'm just trying
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: to facilitate you.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Know, y'all, I just want you to know we had
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: all these notes. I could talk to this dude for Yeah,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: we could talk. We could talk for four hours up here.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: So excuse me while I jump, because we are in
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: the bay, and I do owe you all a question
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: about Jimmy Butler. We'll just acquired. I had a whole
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: other questions of parenthood and all that stuff. But we'll
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: get some wine and talk about that at a different time.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: But what do you think that Jimmy Butler or Jimmy
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Buckets is gonna bring to the Golden State Warriors.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: First of all, I like the I like to move
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: for Golden State. I really like it for Steph. I'm
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: a Steph Curry fan and to be able to be
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: at this point in Steph's career, in Draymond's career, I
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: think everything they accomplished, you don't want to see them
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: losing like like we saw. We won't to see Steph
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: not having fun with the game like his Steph is
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: infectious with his energy and you can see it was
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: kind of getting zapped away. And so what Jimmy brings it,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: He's bringing life. He brings like you know, for that team,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: he brings another guy that you know can do something different,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: like like like Steve Kerse. He he can get to
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: the line thirteen fourteen, fifteen times a night. You can
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: go to him to slow when when when the game
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: slows down. He's great because he doesn't need the ball
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: to be effective. He's a great cutter, he's a great
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: offensive rebound, he's a great post player, mid post player.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: He's great in pick and rolls with the ball, without
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: the ball. Obviously, we know he's ferocious on defense when
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: he wants to be. So he just brings so much
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: that's a little different than what we've come to see
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: with Golden State, and I think everybody was, you know,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: hoping to see the same version of what you saw.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: But Jimmy brings us a total different element to that
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: team that that scares you when you want to say, okay,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: see or one of those teams will make it because
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: you got guys, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got you got
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: you got some some veteran guys down there that was
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: gonna be in that bottom side, that bottom half, and
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: you got some young teams that's trying to accomplish something
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: at the top, and so It's going to be very
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: interesting to see. You know, who's going to come out
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: on top. It's going to be the old the old dogs.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: That was gonna be the young bulls. We will see.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Well, Listen, learning to win is definitely a skill.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: That is That's what I'm talking. I was afraid to say, Okay,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: see it is all right.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do one more segment and it's called who
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: said that? No, I'm going to read a quote about
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: you that somebody said and you have to tell me
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: who said it.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Well, you ain't gonna give me like no multiple choice
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: like no, ABC.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I can give you a few a few clues. It's
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: a teammate of yours from back in the day, all right.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: So it starts with he's not humble by far. When
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Dwayne gets on the court, I can see the hunger
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: in his face. He wants to win. He doesn't take prisoners.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: He wants to kill you.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: That's a player or coach.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: That's a player, that's a teammate of yours that you
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: actually spoke about today. Briefly, he talks a lot of talks,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of old school. Just got into it with
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: KD actually talking back O.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: GP okay, all right, okay, g G said about me.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Gary Payton in two thousand and secs said that
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: about you.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: He said I wouldn't humble.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Um, he said he's not humble. But he also said
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: by far. So I'm just I'm just reading what it says.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: But anyway, this episode of.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: That, that's to be a complement.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: My producers tell me I got a rap?
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Could we get a part two to this one?
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: This episode of the Trophy Room was brought to you
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: by AT and T Connectivity depend On, backed by the
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: AT and T Guarantee. D Wade, thank you so much
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: for doing this. I can't wait to do this again.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: You all, thank you so much for joining us.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Thank you. You said you ain't humbled by far what
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I said by far It's crazy.