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The IU Report's National Championship Preview with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (Guest: Dave Chanley, 2.146.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are listening to a very special edition of the IU report with Grant Shows and My Cutsal with Guest Dave Chandley Their national championship preview between the Indiana Hoosiers and the Miami Hurricanes Monday night in Miami Those are words I never expected to say in my life And it's only on the Central Indiana Sports Report
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[SPEAKER_05]: Welcome back, I you fans to a very special special edition of the IE report here in the Central Indiana Sports Report Grant Shows with Mike Hustle joined by Dave Chandley today, Dave former coach down there at Silver Creek, Coach's a little basketball, so IE gratis with this here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Appreciate you happen on with us today, Dave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: my pleasure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dave, you've got ties to the program, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You were a was it am I mistaken?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You were a manager at IU at one point in time for the football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a student manager in football way back, way back under the Pont Day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I came in 1968 in the fall, which is right after their Rose Bowl trip and went was manager there for four years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to have been to a game before and seen Dave on the field being honored.
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[SPEAKER_02]: for one, I don't remember what the event was day, but I do remember seeing you on the field that day and thinking, hey, I know that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably 50 year I'm in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're probably really.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And we're here previewing this national championship guys with Indiana and Miami
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[SPEAKER_05]: The son would have told you two years ago that you'd be on a podcast talking about Indiana getting ready to play in a national championship and in football, you'd again, we've been saying about how crazy this is, but the fact that kickoff is approaching and we're hours out from it here at the time of this recording is just pretty unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's a dream come
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's still, every time we do this show, we talk about how surreal this whole experiences and how two years ago this just wasn't even imaginable and how we would have just been so thrilled to go to the Penn Stripe Bowl or something like that and they're one game away from the national title and in Dave can speak to this some as well, down in
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's blue and it's red, but the red that you see typically is the wrong color red, it's Louisville red.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was out of game tonight for my son's basketball team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was so much IU hoodies, IU apparel, even the eighth graders that are playing in the game who
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[SPEAKER_02]: two years ago had never seen Indiana be good at basketball or football for that matter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're all wearing that you gear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This team has captured the state.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been in a lot of ways.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's captured the nation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just, it's renewed the energy behind Indiana University and a region of the state that it kind of lost its grip on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I went to Walmart during the day and it looked like it's shit red.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could not agree with you more Mike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is just unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really is those of us who like like myself who've been going to games since 1968 fall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, we've been waiting for this for years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the Bill Mallory era was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was a great coach and an even better person on top of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, this is, this is just mind-boggling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really is.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And the fact that we're talking about this in Indiana is a touchdown favorite here in this game is, again, it's just, it's something beyond your wildest dreams here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really thought going into last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was more worried about Oregon than I was, if we beat Oregon, now that it's now that it is arrived, we've beat Oregon, and now contingent in worry, but I know how good we are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're the best team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The best team doesn't always win, but we're legitimately a really, really good football team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You see that seven and a half number that went out immediately after the Oregon game ended and it didn't even last 24 hours before it was bet from seven and a half to eight and a half and I tell you every computer module, every metric that you might look at the SNP, the saga and everything like that says it's not even going to be that close.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the S&P numbers come in 11 to 12.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would be stunned if it's a two touchdown game in Indiana's favor, because I do think this Miami team has the talent and the capability to be one of the three best teams in the country.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They make mistakes and they do things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Louisville game was,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Carson back through four picks on that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If Carson back does that on Monday, just go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's schedule a parade.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, Miami, Miami's mistake, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they have been not just this year, but in previous years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if there's one team in the country, you can't commit a 15 yard unsportsable in my conduct penalty, or a roughing the passer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and and keep the offense on the field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana's so buttoned up and if you make a mistake against them, they make you pay for it and Miami is a team that they are prone to make mistakes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: My amy is one of the most penalized teams in all of college football and I think they were fourth from
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think they're the fourth most penalized team in off-cold football this year.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, and Indiana is in the, I think, bottom 10 of, of least amount of penalties.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Indiana doesn't make mistakes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And when they do it's rare, they don't make a mistake every single game that that cost them a lot.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The defense has just been unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The thing that does concern me, however, with Miami is that Miami's here for a reason.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This is not a fluke, I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they beat Ohio State pretty handedly.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They beat him pretty soundly by 10, or is Indiana only beat him by three.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But.
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[SPEAKER_05]: their path has been pretty significantly easy, just due to the fact that, you know, they beat Texas A&M, they had to have the late games stand and, you know, on defense, get a stop on like third or fourth and gold, pick off Texas A&M, they're towards the end of the game.
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[SPEAKER_05]: you have the Ohio State game where we said, you know, they beat him pretty strongly.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then to put together a drive to go beat Ole Miss, they're at the end of the game.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I can tell you right now, I would be way less concerned playing Mr. Stippy than I am Miami if I'm Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And you factor all those things in again, Indiana is Indiana looks like the favorite Indiana looks like that they
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you told me it was a nip and tuck game and and came down to the fourth quarter in the last few minutes in Indiana, you know, how to survive or Miami had to survive.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It didn't.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It wouldn't at all shock me on Monday night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I grew that money has risen to the occasion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So speak with the last three games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They are jelling at the right time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right there, Mistake Pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really, I really thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's there I've been 30 seconds more in that game with Ole Miss Ole Miss would have beaten them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, because they were down knocking on the door.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I look at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at all three phases of the game and you're right, Indiana does not make mistakes and they don't make mistakes in any of the three phases of the game, uh, which is rare, rare for any good team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, I've said all along, I don't know which is better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The offense or the defense, because both have just excelled in the playoff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dave, if you can speak to this as much as I can, how many years when they trotted out a field goal, kick or read just like, well, this isn't going in, or how many years did we watch just an absolute turn style at tackle, because the offensive line was so bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And how many years did the defense just give up 250 yards of game rushing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're sitting here talking about how Indian
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just preposterous to think about because they were not for years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not good at any of these three things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now they're one of the most elite teams in the country.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe at all three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the past, we would always think in a tight game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, how are we going to lose the game?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's just, it's like, come on, let's roll.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna, we're gonna clock this team and I really,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that I think that possibility is out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing, Indiana will be exceptionally well prepared because they're just that good in the coaching staff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We will be prepared, we'll be prepared for anything Miami can throw at us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: their talent, their Miami talent is awfully good, but at the same time is that as disciplined as Indiana's, and I think that's where we was had an edge all year on anyone were played is the the discipline.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And you mentioned Dave about about how well-prepared Indiana's going to be coming into this game, and you know, you give
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[SPEAKER_05]: 10 days, 9, 10 days between games to prepare.
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[SPEAKER_05]: and get ready.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's almost unstoppable.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it was kind of like that with Indiana basketball back in the day with night where if you gave Bob Knight, you know, a week to prepare for a team, they came out where we're really, really good most of the time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And signet is the same way.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And you can see the mentality of this football team is, I'm not sure I've ever seen anything like
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[SPEAKER_05]: you see about how like Elijah Sarat said that he deleted Twitter and some other social media is off his phone.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Riley Noah Kalski was getting taped up in the training room the other day and they had they had the TV on and talking about the National Championship and he grabbed the remote and turned it off.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You don't want to give into the rat poison and this theme just takes so much
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[SPEAKER_05]: going and just playing the game, whether they were playing Indiana State and week three on a Friday night or whether they're playing Miami in Miami for the national championship game, just the mentality is just miles different from other football teams that you see across all levels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To add to that week, techniques been there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's 26 and 2, 28 games every year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have seen great teams have a bad game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have a game when they were flat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have a game when they didn't come out ready to play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The last two years, I have not seen Indiana with a flat performance in a game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just come out business like, do what they're supposed to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: the camaraderie on that team is unbelievable too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They genuinely pull for each other and that's it's a dream come true team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when you add Mendoza to the mix, it's just unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, now I just go on and on and it just can't.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I can tell you this guys and Greg and Mike can can attest to this, working in the sports industry, working in news paper and all this and interviewing athletes and coaches dealing with high school coaches and in high school athletes over their times.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure they've probably ever dealt with an athlete down there at Silver Creek or
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[SPEAKER_05]: or a coach that carries themselves the way Fernando Mendoza does.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Now, it is a little goofy, but the kid just says the right things every time like you said Dave, like every time he says what needs to be said, and I think plays the game passionately.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I know Greg kind of mentioned this a few weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Is he the best player on this team overall?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I have no idea that's a, I think that's a different discussion for another time, but the guy is just a game changer on and off the field with the way Gary's himself and of course the way you can throw the football and run the football on offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: everybody just follows him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's other leaders on this team that are just, they all step up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They are all, it's eight in Fisher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I look over on them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's exactly who I was going to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eight in Fisher on the defense side of the ball, can't get any better than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The kids says the right things also.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The offensive line, getting Kuggen was phenomenal, but that offensive line is just solid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned Riley Norl Kowski, holy cow, what a what a get, what a get out of the portal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He only caught like 10 or 11 passes that was constant and he comes here and he is phenomenal catching the ball and blocking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we haven't even mentioned the running backs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those two dudes run hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They just, they're just elite.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dave, you talked about the camaraderie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can watch the video of Pat Cougan being named the offensive player the game and the rose bull.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could watch that every day and just be just to see the team's reaction when that happened was
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[SPEAKER_02]: it was so cool because you could just tell like it was genuine uh... those guys were so thrilled to see an offensive line then not only an offensive line but a senior offensive lineman
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[SPEAKER_02]: get rewarded and get that honor when it could have a look.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The easy thing to do, hand it to Mendoza.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the Heisman winner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had a good game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had more touch downs than in completions, but when they gave it to Kugan and just see the genuine surprise and an elation for those that those guys felt for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That moment to me was like, okay, this team's obviously it's different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of the best collection of a team assembled that I've ever seen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It has been since we're on this side of it, it's been awfully, awfully fine.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Today's letting us get a question here and you've coached before we've all been around sports.
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[SPEAKER_05]: but you've coached teams and as a coach, you feel like you know when you have your team dialed in and we talked about this a little bit, Mike and I, but my question is when you have teams dialed in and you know when you don't.
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[SPEAKER_05]: How long do you think Sigmati has known that he has this team right where they want them?
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[SPEAKER_05]: And has this team clicking and firing on all cylinders now and of course, of course, he has.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they're going to the National Championship, but in your mind, when do you think that started?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he knew before he played Ohio State that we were really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I'm watching that game with Ohio State, I just looked on the field and I said, talent level, talent level Ohio State is just a best talented team, most talented team probably I've seen on a football field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yet we just stood up to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now after that game, I think he thought generally, we can win this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think the next thing was,
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you keep them for three weeks from going stale or soft?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which I think I think happened to Ohio State, which is why they lost to Miami.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they were sharp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Rose Bowl, they it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What, it took one series of downs and they were back on top of their game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he knew, they were pretty well dialed in at that point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at that point, it's just like, just keep it rolling, just keep it rolling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he knew how good we could be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just the way I can see it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he really did know that we were going to be really good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: talking about Miami a little bit here is, I guess, start with Mike here, but what is the one thing you know or you've seen out of Miami watching games?
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[SPEAKER_05]: You've seen a little bit of tape on them.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What are some of the things that concerns you guys about?
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[SPEAKER_05]: What Miami can do to Indiana?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, growing up when I did and watched college football when I did, I grew a certain appreciation for the U. Um, so I follow this team, not as closely as Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even going to pretend that's the case, but if the U's on, I'm probably going to watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like I've watched this team for at least the last two years, probably more than I should have,
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[SPEAKER_02]: that is absolutely capable of dominating both lines of scrimmage at any given game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: first round NFL adrossers, Ruben Bane, maybe the best defense of player in college football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't think I'm speaking out of hyperbole when I say that, that guy can absolutely wreck.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, watch him play Ohio State.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wrecked that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The other messador, the other end, is he wrecked Texas A&M.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody was focusing on on Bane, messador took over the A&M game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As much as I like Carter Smith, I think he's a great tackle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he'll hold up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really am afraid of Calil Benson against he's gonna need help.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Benson is, to me, Benson, Mahowski, whoever they put up the other tackle is probably the weak link of the line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And whoever Miami lines up against him is going to have a,
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[SPEAKER_02]: and a huge talent advantage over over them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're gonna have to chip, you're probably gonna have to leave a back in sometimes in obvious passing situations because these guys are dominant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then their O-line is it's huge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they could run the football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mark Fletcher, he was,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a game worth Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate and Julian Sane and Carson Beck, the best offense of player in the game against Ohio State was Mark Fletcher and he is capable to put up a hundred pretty easy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's tough to tackle and we've all seen Malachi Tony at some point or another this year, just an absolutely elite talent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a freshman,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he's like 17, eight years old, I think just whatever he gets the ball in his hands, he's electric.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they have playmakers, they have NFL talent on all over the place and they can dominate the line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be a tough matchup.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, I could see they're weak in the back end.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Their second area is banged up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Xavier Lucas, one of their top defensive backs will miss the first half because of a targeting penalty in the old miss game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're beatable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've got spots where I think Indiana can definitely take advantage, but they also have elite talent at some pretty key spots.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My thoughts are two phases.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, can we stop the run?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've done a phenomenal job of that all year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we stop the run and make them one dimensional, it really makes our job so much easier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's easier said than done, but we have just really done a great job of that all year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other side of the ball, I also say can we run the ball?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we run the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had their work, I said, I may be a little off on the numbers, but the last two games we have ran the ball like 80 sometimes and thrown it like 37 or 8 times, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which means we think of ourselves as a wide open passing game and it's a pretty good passing game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But our running game has just been settler.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think the game comes down to can we run the ball?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And can we stop the run?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we can run the ball, then we're going to be able to pass the ball as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to be hard to stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we stop the run and make them want to mention it all, I think we really place it in our hands.
23:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Dave how much credence are you paying to this being a home game for Miami?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't to me it feels like the tickets are split evenly enough and the way Indiana has shown out in two postseason games you're going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know as an alum and as an eye you fan and I know several others who are like what do you take away from everybody saying this is going to be a home game for Miami?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm of the mindset it's going to be closer to 50, 50 and people realize.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it'll be 50 50 50 50.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to show up and I think each team gets about the same amount of tickets for this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Miami has probably all year long as good as they have been.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure they sold their stadium out at any point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think they are having our fans are on a roll too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll make this statement that I said to my wife after the third game last year and it's one of the more profound statements I've made totally by accident I'll assure you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I told her after the third game I said we're good and she says you say that every
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[SPEAKER_00]: This this team is good.
25:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Our players are good.
25:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, the only thing we have he has to do is to teach us how to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing Signetti has to do is teach us how to win.
25:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I said, and I'm not talking about the players, because those players are winners.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They know how to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about our fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has to teach our fans how to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and by galley he's done it.
25:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He's done it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen such a ground swell of support.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never thought I would see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure I ever thought I'd see this our stadium pulled out and crazy like it was.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And Dave, I'm, I'm curious for you as an alum and someone who's been there with the program for a long time for you personally and what what what are some of the emotional moments that you lived through in the last two years you think like what's made you the most emotional.
26:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, easy.
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Easy.
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm setting out to Roseball.
26:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm setting the to Roseball.
26:27
[SPEAKER_00]: There's about two minutes left in the game and and it just I'm just looking around just viewing the whole stadium and and seeing the Roseball and and I got teary I'd I got really teary I'd and just said I never thought I would see this day.
26:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I never thought I would see us at the Roseball, dominating, and so good, and it was, it was an emotional moment for me.
26:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I usually keep emotions pretty well and check and hurt fairly even healed, but that one was, it just overwhelming.
27:07
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a slightly different emotion than you probably felt the last time I ran into you in a game I think was in Jacksonville at the Gator Bowl.
27:15
[SPEAKER_02]: You were probably feeling a slightly different emotion at the Rose Bowl than you were that night, right?
27:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that one set with me all I drove we drove that we didn't fly.
27:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I drove all the way home.
27:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't sleep that night.
27:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I was ticked off because we should have won the ball game.
27:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And drove all the way home just thinking, we should have won that ball game.
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: What a feather in our hat, it would have been to win that ball game.
27:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, that was a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach.
27:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Great going back to your question to me.
27:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I was so excited after Iowa.
27:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I was so excited after Oregon.
27:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But the first time I actually got emotional watching this team was definitely a big ten title game because as good as this team was all season, I still fell in the back of my head as like, I just hope we make the playoff.
28:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope we can win a game this year.
28:15
[SPEAKER_02]: We can shut up the critics a little bit, but I didn't know that they were going to ever
28:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And to see Indiana football, just the joke that it had been.
28:31
[SPEAKER_02]: knock off the juggernaut, the defending champs, the team that had been using them as a footstool for years, the team that brought so many fans to our stadium that we had to use our calendar photo every other year of a full stadium and it had to be Ohio State fans because they were the closest shade of red we could get to a full stadium.
28:55
[SPEAKER_02]: So beating them and ending that streak and
28:59
[SPEAKER_02]: and accomplishing something that I never thought I would see in the NFL ball do, which is when the big ten title game, especially in Indianapolis, and just announced itself as, yeah, we're not just a good football team, we're a championship level football team, and watching that game that night.
29:17
[SPEAKER_02]: That was the first time I felt like a little choked up
29:26
[SPEAKER_05]: I think for me personally it's it's been a couple times this year is after the Oregon game Got theory I for for me the Ohio state game.
29:37
[SPEAKER_05]: I was Where I am now on the living room floor sobbing after the game because they won because I've only ever wanted to just see in Beto, Ohio state but the the first one for me was
29:52
[SPEAKER_05]: last year at the Washington game, game days and down, it's buzzing, you know, I've been out there since five o'clock in the morning.
30:03
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm running on kind of running on fumes.
30:09
[SPEAKER_05]: There's about five minutes left before kick, Indiana's getting ready to run out.
30:14
[SPEAKER_05]: And where I'm sitting, you can see the whole state we're kind of on an end there by the flag.
30:20
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm looking around the whole stadium, Steve Red, that was when the towels really had started.
30:27
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that was the really big first game of the rally to Alz and people were waving them.
30:33
[SPEAKER_05]: And you know, you're hearing HDDC and Thunderstruck,
30:38
[SPEAKER_05]: I just couldn't take it.
30:39
[SPEAKER_05]: I just I I started crying and you know because we've all been there and so many games that just
30:48
[SPEAKER_05]: There's been nobody at the game you could buy the cheapest ticket on on ticket master seatgeek and and then go sit wherever you want up in the stands watch for about three quarters then get blown out You know on the drive down you're thinking oh yeah, I was shot today, man, maybe they got a shot And then you stay for about two and a half quarters and then you leave pissed off and go down to Kirkwood or go find some
31:17
[SPEAKER_05]: And that was just your life.
31:18
[SPEAKER_05]: And then you're sitting there in that Washington game.
31:21
[SPEAKER_05]: And you look around and you see what this now is.
31:25
[SPEAKER_05]: And you know, this is the new normal.
31:28
[SPEAKER_05]: This is what it's going to be.
31:29
[SPEAKER_05]: That for me is where it really got me.
31:33
[SPEAKER_05]: And I just, Monday, night is just something again beyond our wildest dreams.
31:40
[SPEAKER_05]: I've woke up every day this week.
31:43
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I wake up in the morning.
31:45
[SPEAKER_05]: So first thing you think about is just one day closer to Monday, one day closer to that national championship.
31:52
[SPEAKER_05]: And I know that players feel the same way.
31:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Probably my amy feels the same way.
31:55
[SPEAKER_05]: But I think Indiana and you could see it with the way Signetti approached it before the Roseville.
32:02
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just ready to go.
32:03
[SPEAKER_05]: Just ready to go play the game.
32:05
[SPEAKER_05]: I would expect the same thing on Monday night too.
32:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that these guys are shopping at the bit and just ready to go play the game.
32:17
[SPEAKER_02]: other guys uh... anybody feel comfortable enough to make a prediction i knew you were going to ask that tonight and this is the pre-view part so i was prepped to to do it
32:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate feeling as confident as I do about this game because I just, I've gone through so many scenarios in my head and I just, I, I, I just, Indiana wins each time and I, I, I, I, I, I've got a 31, 21 score on it, um, I think Indiana wins, I think they cover and I think the most unrealistic story in the history of college football, uh, completes at final chapter.
33:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I will say, I believe we'll win.
33:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate to predict a score.
33:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope it's not down to the wire.
33:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope it's where we got, where with about three minutes to go, we can all look at each other in smile and say, this story is now complete and it is one of the greatest ones ever.
33:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually, I haven't been nervous a lot last week I was before the game, just because I thought Oregon would be that tough, and I just kept saying to myself, if we can just beat Oregon, we'll win this thing.
33:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I just hope my statement there is true, you still got to play the game, you still can't make mistakes, but I will go, I'll say we'll score at least 28, if we score 21, I really believe we'll have scored enough points to win the game because I think our defense is that good.
34:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll go up and let me say yeah, I'll go 31 21 is that that's the same thing you did wasn't like yeah same score Yeah, yeah, great.
34:17
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to complete it great.
34:18
[SPEAKER_05]: You're gonna complete the hat trick I want to say 31 21, but I don't know if it'll be that close and Again like like you said my I Hate how confident I feel going in I think it's all academic
34:36
[SPEAKER_05]: I, again, you know, like Dave said, feel like if we really beat Oregon, I really think we can win this.
34:44
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to take Indiana to win 42 to 14 over Miami.
34:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow, wow, I hope you're right.
34:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope you're right.
34:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope you're right too, Grant.
34:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
34:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And one thing I wanted to kind of close the show on here,
35:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Greg, when Greg told me Dave was going to be on tonight, I started thinking about Dave, you realize we've known each other for about 25 years at this point, believe it or not.
35:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:16
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great mutual friend in Steve's mock.
35:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
35:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say you're a mutual friend.
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: You golf with a family member of mine.
35:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
35:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You golf with my old high school coach.
35:28
[SPEAKER_02]: We go back to New actually.
35:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's been instances over the the time that I've known you where I've had the opportunity to to get your season basketball tickets.
35:39
[SPEAKER_02]: You've sold them to me.
35:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You've let me
35:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Now when people approach you and ask you for your tickets, does it register with you that they want to know about your football tickets and you can't hardly give away your basketball tickets to some games that that is a great question and you're absolutely correct.
36:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It is over the two years that it's shifted I never had a had trouble at all ever until
36:16
[SPEAKER_00]: now you're right.
36:19
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no use trying to sell them because I can't.
36:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to give them to friends and
36:28
[SPEAKER_00]: but and and the football is just a reverse totally the reverse.
36:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I never could.
36:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I used to say, hey, here's my football tickets use them.
36:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And now now those things are premium.
36:40
[SPEAKER_00]: They're they're valuable.
36:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just it's it's just weird.
36:46
[SPEAKER_00]: It is weird, but it is a great weird that to add this,
36:56
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37:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's come true.
37:30
[SPEAKER_02]: It has I've seen I've seen the question posed with Indiana fans trade Signetti for Dusty May not a quote not even up for debate.
37:39
[SPEAKER_02]: No nobody would trade Kurt Signetti for for any form of currency at this point in Indiana athletics.
37:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Not he or she will have Bob night.
37:53
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no.
37:57
[SPEAKER_05]: What what are we setting the line app for when I'm saying this game's over?
38:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, Dave.
38:05
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a that's a fun game that we play on every show because at some point in time Grant will have a an absolute meltdown and declare Indiana's gonna lose and it gets earlier and earlier and every game
38:19
[SPEAKER_02]: um let's see the game is a set is it a 730 kick probably won't kick till about 745 750 right um i'm going to go 759 is when grant declares Miami the the national champion kick off
38:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I I don't know because that grant that well, but I'm going to say at the end of the uh been way through the second court, I'll say in the west of the second court, I'll give it that Just to give some context here Dave, you were probably there, the Wisconsin game, Wisconsin could have played eight quarters of football and scored one touchdown.
39:07
[SPEAKER_02]: But the one touchdown scored Grant had to check himself in with an elevated heart rate and a Monroe County hospital because they gave up that long touchdown pass.
39:19
[SPEAKER_02]: You would have thought like with a thought Indiana was losing 56 to three at that point, but Wisconsin was never going to score another point.
39:27
[SPEAKER_02]: But when they had that long touchdown, Grant's like, this is terrible.
39:31
[SPEAKER_02]: We're horrible.
39:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I swear.
39:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know I didn't
40:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And Grant had a rant about Indiana fans, and it changed about the next week.
40:15
[SPEAKER_01]: It got better the next week.
40:17
[SPEAKER_02]: It was Indiana State was the telltale sign because they actually put fans in the seeds for a Friday night game against Indiana State.
40:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, OK, this program is, is the fans are here.
40:32
[SPEAKER_02]: They've arrived.
40:34
[SPEAKER_02]: They're on board now.
40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I, yeah, I hate to say that's the one name I missed.
40:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I had great excuses.
40:41
[SPEAKER_00]: My son-in-law's a head-football coach in high school.
40:44
[SPEAKER_00]: It was great to team up with you.
40:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always good to talk with Mike.
40:52
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was great to team up with you on this.
40:54
[SPEAKER_00]: For me, it was a lot of fun.
40:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I appreciate you.
40:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I didn't hear it.
40:59
[SPEAKER_05]: They said, but they said you coach them ball down there at Silver Creek and I'm a big eye you fan, but I love high school basketball.
41:08
[SPEAKER_05]: So I, uh, I followed it.
41:10
[SPEAKER_05]: I followed Silver Creek for a while and yeah, appreciate you coming on.
41:16
[SPEAKER_05]: I, I, I hope we can do this again.
41:18
[SPEAKER_05]: And I hope the next time we talk after the National Championship, it's the.
41:23
[SPEAKER_05]: it's it's the greatest thing we've experienced in all of our sports fandom.
41:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And David it's my fault that you got pulled into this because I, uh,
41:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Greg and I were talking the other night after the basketball game and it just kind of the light bulb went on on my head.
41:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, why don't we have Chamley on?
41:44
[SPEAKER_02]: He literally was on the field with IU footballs several times in his life.
41:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And Greg's like, I didn't even know that.
41:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, a great addition.
41:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I've really enjoyed talking with you.
41:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully we can have you on some other some of our other pods.
41:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And we can rip this basketball program about some time in the next month or so.
42:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds good to me.
42:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds great.
42:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is not the last of our college football national championship preview.
42:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be previewing the game with Eric and Ryan Robinson on our college football report.
42:21
[SPEAKER_01]: That'll be on Sunday morning or probably about one o'clock in the afternoon.
42:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So everybody, please join us for that.
42:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I will make my official prediction on that one.
42:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll just tell you guys, it's going to be four for four.
42:32
[SPEAKER_01]: But I can see a scenario where Carson Beck becomes your worst nightmare.
42:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen that dude's face man.
42:39
[SPEAKER_05]: He's capable of being my worst nightmare just by taking his helmet off, so Oh, man I just wanted to stay before we close this out guys is that you know, and again Indiana Planned for National Championship is
43:01
[SPEAKER_05]: something we would have never dreamed of.
43:03
[SPEAKER_05]: And, and I just, you know, fans who are going down there, I hope can get down there safe and enjoy the game.
43:11
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know when we'll do this again.
43:12
[SPEAKER_05]: It's hardly, this is our last preview for an IU report before a football game.
43:18
[SPEAKER_05]: It seems like we
43:19
[SPEAKER_05]: just previewing the fees and not long ago that obviously time flies when you're having fun but this is this is the most fun I've ever had rooting for one team and in my entire life and I just hope we can cap off the the greatest story in in in all sports on Monday night.
43:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love Susie, go I U, and that's hard for Purdue Fantasy.