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Mac & Bone Hour 1: Panthers Waive Jimmy Horn · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's up, party people?
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  Speaker 2: Bueno, como estas?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mike and Bo.
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  Speaker 1: This is my friend, Matt.
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  Speaker 3: It's a beautiful work Wednesday, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend, T-Bone.
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  Speaker 3: did you?
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  Speaker 2: They're the best.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, Charlotte. Welcome aboard. Happy Wednesday, everybody. It's a
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  Speaker 3: work Wednesday for our Carolina Panthers. They'll get back to
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  Speaker 3: practice today and we'll find out what's going on with
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Coker's ankle. Hopefully everything's all right. Maybe limited today,
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  Speaker 3: but hopefully he does a little bit and we can
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  Speaker 3: feel good about that. He seemed to feel good about that,
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  Speaker 3: but we've got a lot to do in the meantime.
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  Speaker 3: Before those boys hit the field, we will talk plenty
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  Speaker 3: of Panthers on the show today. How about focusing on
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  Speaker 3: what was good on Sunday for a change this week?
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  Speaker 3: The offense. The offense. Are you readjusting your offense expectations?
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  Speaker 3: It sounds like everybody has on the other side of
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  Speaker 3: the ball. But are you readjusting in a good way
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  Speaker 3: the offensive expectations? We'll talk about that. We have a
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  Speaker 3: surprise cut by the Carolina Panthers yesterday. that must be
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  Speaker 3: discussed here in a matter of minutes. And we had
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  Speaker 3: all kinds of other stuff. There is the Palmetto States
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  Speaker 3: duo is under siege from the upset alert folks. Are
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  Speaker 3: you buying the upset alert for Clemson against Carolina? Are
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  Speaker 3: you buying the upset alert? for South Carolina against Mississippi State.
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  Speaker 3: We will talk through that a little bit on the
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  Speaker 3: show today. And we're going to let you hear from
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  Speaker 3: Brenton Buckner, who joined us in the last hour of
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  Speaker 3: the show yesterday. We wanted to get a guy that
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  Speaker 3: has much more NFL defensive knowledge than us to talk
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  Speaker 3: about what he saw from the Panthers' defense and the
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  Speaker 3: hot-button topic of Avero. and his scheme and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So that's coming up. We'll let you hear that, 6 o'clockers,
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  Speaker 3: later this hour. So we've got a lot of things happening.
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  Speaker 3: We've got the Bone Man. We've got the Fit Dog.
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  Speaker 3: Bone Man, how are you feeling today?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, good morning to the audience. Good morning to Fitty.
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  Speaker 4: And good morning to my main man, Brona Hill.
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  Speaker 3: I was waiting to hear what my alter ego was.
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  Speaker 3: You're starting to wonder. You're starting to wait on it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're Brona Hill today. How about that? I'm starting. Yesterday
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  Speaker 3: was Seth Brogan, and today was Brona Hill. I'm starting
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  Speaker 3: to warm up to this. I can feel it. I
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  Speaker 3: can sense it. I'm starting to feel like, okay, what
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  Speaker 3: am I going to get called right now?
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  Speaker 4: It took 11 times, but now you're starting to get going.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to run out, though, eventually, but I got
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  Speaker 4: about 44 more to go.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, good.
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  Speaker 4: And then we go to the audience, and that's when
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  Speaker 4: you probably say, all right, enough of that.
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  Speaker 3: I've had quite the... A harrowing morning. Blessed to be
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  Speaker 3: here today. What a start. What a start to my
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  Speaker 3: day today. My gracious. You all right? I let Murphy
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  Speaker 3: out of the crate. He woke up and he got excited.
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  Speaker 3: And the first.
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  Speaker 4: Thing he does was he jumps up and he punched
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  Speaker 4: me square in the kebabs. I mean, direct hit right
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  Speaker 4: into the... Right into the shishkis. Like, right, whatever, the
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  Speaker 4: shish kebabs.
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  Speaker 3: Like, right there. Like, direct punch right there. You might
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  Speaker 3: need your own bodyguard with this dog. I might need
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  Speaker 3: to wear. This dog is hurting you. Cut your finger
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  Speaker 3: all up. I might need to wear a cup. I
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  Speaker 3: need to wear a cup. And then I had a jerk.
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  Speaker 3: Full suit of armor and a bodyguard on hand.
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  Speaker 4: Not only that, so I had to take a few
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  Speaker 4: minutes off there and make sure the furniture was all
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  Speaker 4: in line. And then I had a jerk on 77
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  Speaker 4: today that was really trying to just kill me.
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  Speaker 3: Just absolutely kill me this morning. I didn't do it.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't my fault this time. Was Murphy behind the wheel?
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  Speaker 3: Can we blame him or no?
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  Speaker 4: I was about to merge on the highway, getting onto
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  Speaker 4: the highway, and the guy, just me and this guy,
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  Speaker 4: he did not, and his truck, would not get over
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  Speaker 4: to the left lane. Guys, I'm trying to get over.
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  Speaker 4: This guy keeps on coming. So I had to like,
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  Speaker 4: I like ran out of room on the trying to
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  Speaker 4: merge because this guy wouldn't get over.
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  Speaker 3: How do you have so many like driver tete-a-tetes before
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  Speaker 3: like 5.30 in the morning? When he got to the
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  Speaker 3: left lane, he immediately got on the bumper of the
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  Speaker 3: car that was in that lane, flashed his lights. So
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  Speaker 3: this guy was just being an absolute menace. How do
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  Speaker 3: you have– I looked over and I said, is that
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  Speaker 3: Carson Hosovar? That might be him. So there's hardly any
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  Speaker 3: cars on the road. Like, how do you have so
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  Speaker 3: many like road run ins at this hour?
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  Speaker 4: Probably because people have more room to operate. So they
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  Speaker 4: feel like they can be more like 77. You can't
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  Speaker 4: really do much normally. I guess at that hour of
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  Speaker 4: the day, they feel like they're empowered because there's not
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  Speaker 4: as many people out there, I guess. So these guys
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  Speaker 4: in these big trucks just bully me all the time.
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  Speaker 4: I tell you, Fit, I don't know about you, Fit.
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  Speaker 4: We drive in on Independence. They are gentlemen at this hour.
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  Speaker 4: All right?
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  Speaker 3: Gentlemen at the early 4.30, 4 o'clock hour of my drive.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't that the road where Flounder got a baseball bat
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  Speaker 3: pulled on him?
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  Speaker 5: But that was not at 5.30 in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: No, the sun. Oh, no, Flounder's incident was he ended
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  Speaker 3: up in the woods to go to the bathroom. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's what it was. No, the baseball bat incident was
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  Speaker 3: broad daylight for Floundog. In fairness, if you're on the
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  Speaker 3: road with Flounder, he could rage at any hour. So
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  Speaker 3: maybe you're just running into the... Mooresville Flounders. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? Maybe the Lake Norman Flounder is driving
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  Speaker 3: at the same time as you.
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  Speaker 5: Mack, I'm starting to think this is more about Bone
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  Speaker 5: than it is the other people.
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  Speaker 3: I'm starting to wonder. I'm starting to wonder, is Bone
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  Speaker 3: the problem? All these other people are like, what's wrong
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  Speaker 3: with this guy?
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  Speaker 1: Hear me out.
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  Speaker 5: We need a Bone cam.
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  Speaker 3: We do.
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  Speaker 4: When someone's merging onto the highway and there's no one
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  Speaker 4: there but one car a little bit in front of you,
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  Speaker 4: you've got to get over to the left lane.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to let me into the highway. You've got
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  Speaker 3: to move there.
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  Speaker 5: Now, Bone, when you're merging into the highway.
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  Speaker 3: Do you.
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  Speaker 5: Merge with a sense of urgency? Like when you're coming
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  Speaker 5: down the ramp?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I've done it a million times.
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  Speaker 3: This guy would not move. Can you not just get
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  Speaker 3: out of the gas and just be like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: I'll just concede that spot and I'll just funnel in
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  Speaker 3: behind you? I mean, I guess I could. Bones trying
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  Speaker 3: to get off pit road. Bones like, I got to
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  Speaker 3: do the best time off pit road here, man. All right.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, I acted like a jerk after that. So you
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  Speaker 4: could tell that this guy wasn't following the rules.
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  Speaker 3: Of the road. Unbelievable, man. Between Murphy and the dogs
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  Speaker 3: and the drivers, you're targeted. Why is this all about
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  Speaker 3: me here? I wonder. I wonder why this is all
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  Speaker 3: about you. Anyway, let's talk about. I didn't open up
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  Speaker 3: for criticism. Let's talk about Jimmy Horn here, Bone Man.
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  Speaker 3: Jimmy Horn could be driving out of town, or maybe
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  Speaker 3: he won't be. Maybe he'll clear waivers and be back
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  Speaker 3: on the practice squad. But yesterday afternoon, Panther fans, I
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  Speaker 3: think many, shocked by the fact that Jimmy Horn Jr.
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  Speaker 3: was waived. after a rough game, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 3: He obviously had the fumble that was killer on the
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  Speaker 3: muff punt. The defense actually did something well after that.
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  Speaker 3: They held him to a field goal, which was pretty good,
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  Speaker 3: but still cost us a few points in that game. Also,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to have decent field position after a defensive stop,
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  Speaker 3: which we didn't get a lot of. It was killer.
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  Speaker 3: He had another moment, Bone, that I thought looked weird
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  Speaker 3: on a punt return where he, like, Had all this space.
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  Speaker 3: He ran into it. And the second he got to defenders,
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  Speaker 3: he kind of just turned his back and said, go
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  Speaker 3: ahead and hit me. And the ball came out, but
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  Speaker 3: he was down. He was ruled down at that point
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  Speaker 3: in time. So he got lit up pretty bad on
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  Speaker 3: a kick return, but seemed to pop right back up.
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  Speaker 3: But it wasn't necessarily the return debut that I think
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  Speaker 3: I expected. I know I really, and maybe that's where
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  Speaker 3: this turned for him. I really got in his corner.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he had a tremendous preseason as a pass catcher.
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  Speaker 3: And a returner. So maybe I ruined this for Jimmy
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  Speaker 3: Horne Jr.? I thought he was different in skill set
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  Speaker 3: where you could... utilize him in different ways than the
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  Speaker 3: other guys. And that also is why I bought in, hey,
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  Speaker 3: maybe this guy can be not a heavy stat guy,
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  Speaker 3: but a guy you've got to plan for because he's
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  Speaker 3: different than all the other wideouts. The preseason end around
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  Speaker 3: was encouraging. He started running more crisp routes. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: pretty damn surprised by this. But clearly, a matter of fact, Fit,
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  Speaker 3: let's play the clip from Panther Talk on Monday night.
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  Speaker 3: I referenced this yesterday. Little did I know that this
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  Speaker 3: is what... Dave Canales might have had on his mind bone.
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  Speaker 3: I just said Dave Canales admitted that they are looking
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  Speaker 3: at their options as far as return spots after Jimmy
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  Speaker 3: Horne's fumble. But listen to Anish's question. It's a Monday night.
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  Speaker 3: This is the day before Jimmy Horne is waived. Listen
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  Speaker 3: to the question from Anish. Listen to Dave Canales' answer
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  Speaker 3: on Panther Talk, and maybe you can understand what Dave
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  Speaker 3: Canales is really thinking. Do we continue to see Jimmy Horne?
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  Speaker 3: on punt returns or is that an area where maybe
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  Speaker 3: you try a few other bodies this week?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we're going to have to consider that part. You know,
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  Speaker 6: those are some, some really important situations right there, especially
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  Speaker 6: after a stop, a huge stop by the defense. And,
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  Speaker 6: you know, we're, everybody's fired up and it's like, here
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  Speaker 6: we go. You know, we're going to now take the
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  Speaker 6: next step in this game and let's recapture the momentum
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  Speaker 6: to give it right back to a really good offense
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  Speaker 6: in that kind of territory. You know, we're going to
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  Speaker 6: have to think about all that. And Tracy and I
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  Speaker 6: will make sure, you know, and Dan, We'll make sure
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  Speaker 6: that we figure that part out.
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  Speaker 3: Dan, when he said Dan, when I listened to that
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  Speaker 3: back this morning, he said, Dan, it's like, oh, this
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  Speaker 3: is a right. Okay. So I feel like at that
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  Speaker 3: point he kind of knew in the back of his
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  Speaker 3: mind as he's answering the question, yeah, this isn't just
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  Speaker 3: about the return spot. This is about his roster spot.
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  Speaker 3: You know, maybe, maybe. You're not going to Dan with
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  Speaker 3: the return stuff. No, no. You're going into the, hey,
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  Speaker 3: can we move him off here and do something different here?
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't catch that. Didn't think anything of it
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  Speaker 3: the first time on Monday night, right?
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  Speaker 4: Also, the Panthers aren't messing around back with the two
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  Speaker 4: of the guys they drafted think about Trevin Wallace he
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  Speaker 4: was fighting for a what we thought was a starting
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  Speaker 4: spot in the last preseason game back he doesn't not
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  Speaker 4: only not make the starting lineup he gets moved off
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  Speaker 4: the football team Jimmy Horn is Jr. in the first
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  Speaker 4: game is the return man, and then he's gone after
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  Speaker 4: one game. They're not only, Mac, moving guys off of
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  Speaker 4: what we thought would be prime spots in the lineup.
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  Speaker 4: They're moving guys off the roster. They're not messing around
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  Speaker 4: right now. They're saying, yeah, you were close to being
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  Speaker 4: a starter, Trevin Wallace. You're gone. Jimmy Horn, you were a...
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  Speaker 4: Special teams, player force, and week one, you messed up,
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  Speaker 4: you're gone. They're not messing around, even with guys that
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  Speaker 4: are draft choices of their own.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, JT Sanders is over there hanging out in a tracksuit.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, no helmet, tracksuit, fit
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  Speaker 3: tight end. It's like, why?
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  Speaker 4: The interesting part about this is now Mechie moves up
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  Speaker 4: on the depth chart as the main return guy, has
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  Speaker 4: returned punts in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry, has returned kicks. Only seven kicks. He's
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  Speaker 3: returned kicks, but has not returned any punts in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Never returned in college either. So that's interesting. Returned only
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  Speaker 3: seven kicks, too. It ain't that many. And his average
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  Speaker 3: is not good. It's 17.1. It's interesting. So he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have a lot of experience. I thought he looked pretty
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  Speaker 3: good in preseason, but... We all thought Jimmy Horn looked
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  Speaker 3: pretty good at in the preseason as well. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they released a depth chart yesterday, and John Meche, who
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  Speaker 3: is on the active roster, just slides in to that
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  Speaker 3: role as far as the return man goes. There seems
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  Speaker 3: like there's also another reason they needed a roster spot.
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  Speaker 3: Tyrell Dodson is the guy that they are– Giving the
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  Speaker 3: roster spot, too. The linebacker from Miami had over 120
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  Speaker 3: tackles last year. They signed him to the practice squad.
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  Speaker 3: Dan Morgan knows him from Buffalo when they signed him
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  Speaker 3: as an undrafted free agent in Buffalo. Dan Morgan, at
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  Speaker 3: the presser when asked about it, made it a couple
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  Speaker 3: weeks ago. It sounded like there was an understanding between
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  Speaker 3: the two of them. My thought with that kid was,
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  Speaker 3: you're active roster good, and you honestly might be starter good.
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  Speaker 3: Why did you sign with our practice squad? Sounds like
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  Speaker 3: the way Dan Morgan was putting it without totally saying
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  Speaker 3: it is, they had a talk, and I do wonder, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: if it was acknowledged at some point here in the
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  Speaker 3: near future. you will be on the active roster. A
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  Speaker 3: couple of things that were pointed out by our insiders
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  Speaker 3: here in Charlotte about Tyrell Dodson. One is Mike Kay
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  Speaker 3: says he has a source telling him there was a
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  Speaker 3: team that reached out to try to claim him off
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  Speaker 3: the practice squad and put him on their active roster.
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  Speaker 3: So the Panthers probably, Mike Kay says, because of that,
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  Speaker 3: the Panthers needed to get him on to the active roster.
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  Speaker 3: Joe Person points out that you'll see this a lot
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  Speaker 3: with veterans, where if you don't have them on the
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  Speaker 3: active roster week one, but then put them on week two,
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  Speaker 3: the contract's not guaranteed. Okay, that makes sense. So it
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  Speaker 3: seems like there's two reasons, Bone, why he is going
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  Speaker 3: on the active roster now. They needed a spot, but
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine any, like, I never would have thought
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  Speaker 3: Jimmy Horn's, like, to your point earlier, I can't imagine,
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have imagined Jimmy Horn's roster spot was in jeopardy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree with that 100%. Mack, why would
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  Speaker 4: you think, though, the Panthers watched that game on Sunday
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  Speaker 4: and thought they need more defense? What would have led
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  Speaker 4: you to think that they needed Dotson? I'm surprised, Matt,
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  Speaker 4: they didn't call up Dotson during the football game. Like,
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  Speaker 4: Dan Morgan didn't call down and be like, Put on
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  Speaker 4: a uniform, kid! I was surprised Dan Morgan himself didn't
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  Speaker 4: shimmy down to this bench and say, all right, guy,
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  Speaker 4: anybody in the stadium they could have used the other day.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Dodson, put on Prince Lee's uniform. You're going in, man.
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  Speaker 3: He can't, he can not contain this quarterback at all.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, yeah, so I honestly, I like Dodson a lot.
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  Speaker 3: 120 plus tackles. Like I said, five sacks last year.
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  Speaker 3: He gives you some blitzing. I thought Devin Lloyd was
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  Speaker 3: tremendous blitzing the other day. Some of the other stuff
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  Speaker 3: was more hit or miss, but I think Dodson could
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  Speaker 3: add a blitzer. I honestly think with Lloyd Okereke, who
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  Speaker 3: still has to get up to speed. He made a
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  Speaker 3: couple of plays, but he still needs to get up
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  Speaker 3: to speed. And Dodson, I think it's three starting caliber linebackers.
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  Speaker 3: For two spots, which is good, which is a good thing. Oh, definitely.
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  Speaker 4: I know after what happened the other day, any time
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  Speaker 4: we praise the defense, people get mad at us. But
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  Speaker 4: that linebacker room is certainly far better than it could
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  Speaker 4: have been and it was last week.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying the linebacker play was great. You know,
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  Speaker 3: on Sunday, I thought Devin Lloyd was all right, you know,
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  Speaker 3: compared to the expectations we have for him. So anyway,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to talk a lot about that today. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of people wondering, could David Moore end up being
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  Speaker 3: on the squad and being, you know, a guy that
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  Speaker 3: is involved in the return game just because of sheer trust?
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  Speaker 3: Just catch the ball. You know what I mean? Or
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  Speaker 3: will it truly be Mechie? Like you said, the depth
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  Speaker 3: chart they released yesterday has. There's a lot to talk
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  Speaker 3: through with the Horn situation. We'll talk through that as
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  Speaker 3: the show continues. Feel free to chime in if it
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  Speaker 3: bothers you. I know he's a fan favorite, and I
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  Speaker 3: do feel bad. It's almost like bone. Maybe I should
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  Speaker 3: have never started supporting the kid. I was so skeptical
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  Speaker 3: of the kid, Bone, early preseason. Maybe I shouldn't have
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  Speaker 3: jumped in. Did you think Dan heard you and me
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  Speaker 3: hyping him up? And he's like, oh, crap. Mac and
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  Speaker 3: Bone now like Jimmy Horn Jr. This is bad. We
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: got to get rid of him. Think it was that?
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: Guys we like often don't stick around very long.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: We got some Hornets TV. Someone's going to say, well,
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: you like Averro? He's still here. Well, yeah, it seems
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: as if during Bailey's show yesterday, Bone, A couple of
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: callers still had us on their minds.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: Mac, I did some research here while you were talking.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: Jasim Reed was a primary return man at San Diego
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: in college. I wouldn't have thought of that.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't have thought that either. He's got college
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: return experience. I'm just trying to think of if Mechie
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: can't do it. We keep going down the line here.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Jaseem Reed does have special teams and return in his past.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Interesting. Interesting. I was just commenting, Bone, because you brought
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: up Avero. I was just commenting that I was listening
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: to KV yesterday. And we heard y'all. We heard y'all
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: running to daddy. We heard y'all running to daddy, KB.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: Well, howdy there, y'all.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Kyle Bailey here. KB, Mac and Bone are acting up
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: in the morning. They're defending Avero. Do something about it, KB. KB,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: tell me you don't agree with those guys. And I'm
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: on to you. All caps, Rod. The man that texts
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: us passionately in all caps. All caps, Rod. I heard you, baby.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I heard you, baby. You were entertaining. I'm going to
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: give you that. All caps are on.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: You keep calling and acting that way, you're going to
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: end up on the round table at some point.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Put him in there with Granny Pat. Let
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: him get a baptism by fire against old granny. Oh man.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: But anyway, we'll, we'll have some more fun. I'm sure
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: the Vera will come up on the show today.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Granny's going to come back around when we talk about
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Davo being a hunk here at some point, I'm sure.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's coming up soon. Davo. Why is Davo considered
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: a hunk this morning? But let's, um, let's, let's hit
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: you with a, let me hit you with a couple
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: of notes here real quick. Boney, um, Hornets have signed
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: a deal with the zone to be their official direct
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: to consumer streaming option. Um, I mean, I guess you
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: got to cover all your bases, right, of getting your
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: product out there. But I'm not sure it's very necessary
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: for most people, right, in this market with all their
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: games being on broadcast TV. Yeah, with the reach of SOC,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I would think not, yeah. I mean, even if you, like,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: your cable system is all going to have SOC or 64,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: whatever the games are going to be on. Hell, break
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: out the rabbit ears if you have to and watch
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: the game old school. I guess with DAZN, there's extra content, Bone.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: it seems like there's extra content there that comes with it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: And also you could obviously probably have the games like
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: on record where you can't record with rabbit ears. You
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? That's true. There's no DVR for your,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: unless you set up a VCR, like the.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Old days, I guess out of town fans, that's a
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: big deal probably. But for local, no, I guess.
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: You get the zone if you don't have the in market. Yeah.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: So out of town, I didn't think about that. Like
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: out of town, do they have to rely on league
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: pass or is this an option to be able to
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: get all the Hornets games out of town?
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I think this would be an option. OK, because I
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: didn't think about that. This is me off the cuff.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: This would be an option just to get the Hornets
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: and not have to. by every league pass.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Team see okay i didn't think about that well i
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: have to look that up but i but then again
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: i don't know do i care about out of town
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: did you hear how this is going to affect you
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: i'm sorry we might have some out of town hornets
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: fans i'm sorry did you hear.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Back how this is going to affect the encore product
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: here this season No, I did not. They're going to
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: use more of the zone defense. The zone defense.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: It's 119 for the basic, 139 for what gives you
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: a little bit more content and stuff like that. We'll
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: try to look up. whether or not that's an out-of-town
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: option or if you've got to go league pass out
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: of town. I want to mention, Bo, in the Protect
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: College Sports Act, because it is, I don't know, it
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: seems like, are they in the red zone maybe? Maybe
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: they're in the red zone trying to get this thing
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: in the end zone. It's the witching hour. It passed
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: the first hurdle in the Senate, a preliminary vote yesterday
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: in the Senate that basically said, ensures there'll be no
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: filibusters there'll be no like debate um this thing still
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: has to get through the house at some point but
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: they're making a go they're making a run here to
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: try to get this protect college sports act through i'm
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: still not holding my breath there's some strong opposition from
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: um some democrats so this thing's not totally bipartisan And
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: the groups like the Black Congressional Congress, the NAACP, they
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: don't think it's very athlete friendly. I saw the president
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: of the NAACP on SportsCenter last night pointing out no
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: one has really asked the athletes. about their perspective on this.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: And it's pretty damn true. But there's a lot of
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: things to like about this bill. So anyway, that's kind
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: of where that stands. And the Braves with a rally
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: last night, down 3-0 early. Martin Perez kept them in
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: the game until the Bats got going bone. Three separate
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: two-run dingers last night by the Braves. It started with Acuna.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: It went to Albies. And then Baldwin added some insurance
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: in the ninth inning. The Braves ended up winning 6-3
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: over the Cubbies last night.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Game 3 of the series tonight, 7-40. So
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Braves trying to win that series tonight.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: We come back.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: College sports stuff aplenty. We've got news with Clemson, the
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Charlotte 49ers at NC State. Dabo apparently is a hunk,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: and Arch Manning apologizes.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: That's the hard thing is when you see a guy
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: run at a different offense, how much of the offense
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: is going to go with that quarterback and how much
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: of it isn't. In this case, I think that he's
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: going to continue to run and improve his execution on
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: the Clemson offense. That's why they got him in there.
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: What we can see is what they've done. I'm sure
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: they'll add new things. I'm sure that they'll put some
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: wrinkles in for us, but you can't predict those. But
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: what we have seen them do, I think, is there's
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: plenty on tape to see.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: That is Bill Belichick. I think you might have known that.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I think you might recognize that voice. Talking about Tate Reynolds.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: That was earlier in the week. I mean, everybody knew
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Tate Reynolds was going to be the starting quarterback in
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: this game. It is interesting. Clemson Carolina noon in Death
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Valley on Saturday. It is interesting, though, Bone. There was
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: an initial report. We mentioned this on Monday. That elbow
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: injury that Dabo referenced in his halftime interview on Saturday
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: night with Vizina. there was an initial report that that
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: was going to cost him a game or two. Yesterday,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Dabo announced that Tate Reynolds is starting and Christian Vazina
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: is available. So there's, I mean, I'm not going to
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: say there's not an injury, but it's an injury that
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: is not going to keep him out of the game.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: So the decision is being made, point blank, We're going
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: with Tate Reynolds, and I can't imagine really anybody out there,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but I can't imagine too many
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: people in Tiger Nation that think that is a bad decision.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Vizina has not been good enough, Bone, to where you're,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, where you just want to,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: it just feels like, Vazina hasn't been good enough for
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: you to resist the urge to just play this naturally
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: gifted talent. You know what I mean? Just get him
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: out there and go.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: You could sense Vazina was in the pressure cooker back
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: up to the very start of the season when that
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: quarterback battle went down to the wire more than we thought.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: So we had to get off. to a relatively good
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: start now. Not performing well against LSU is one thing.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Then you have the Georgia Southern game. It's just Vazina
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: had to get off to a good start for himself,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: or this was what was going to happen, and this
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: is what did happen. You could see it coming the
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: way it was going through camp, too. Tate Reynolds hung
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: in there, hung in there, hung in there. Vazina couldn't
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: put him away. Didn't get off to a good start.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Pass also tells you that Dabo's not afraid early in
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: the season. If he's got a young quarterback, he will
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: go to him very early in the season. Yeah, and
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: that doesn't make Tate Reynolds DeSean Watson or Trevor Lawrence.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Right. But I do think he's a pretty gifted kid. Now,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: it doesn't mean Bill Belichick can't scheme away, Bone. and
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: come up with ways to mess with the young kid
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: making his first start. Like, that's definitely one of the
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: subplots in this game. Dabo didn't put too much pressure
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: on him yesterday at the Presser Bone when he compared
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Tate Reynolds to Tim Tebow. Now, he was doing so, Bone,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: in terms of physical, right? Like, what his body's like
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. But it's just that name being
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: in the headlines compared to Tate Reynolds... Go ahead, kid.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, kid. Enjoy that. Enjoy that heat. Yeah, there's
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: only one Mr. Tebow, sir. How dare you? How dare you?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: One of the, dare I say, one of the hunkiest players, Mac,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: of all time. And that leads us to our next
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: topic here.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Bo, you can't wait. You want to talk hunky coaches,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: don't you? Does this count? Does the hunk-o-meter count? Does
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: the playoff committee take that into consideration? I would hope
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: that they would. I'm told. Yeah, I'm told that that
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: may not matter.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: If you guys missed this yesterday, the there was a. uh,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: email kind of press release thing that was sent out
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: to a lot of the college football media that ranked the, um,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: top five just revealed. And now they go all the
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: way from one to one 38. I only saw the
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: top five and the bottom five. That's a lot. Who
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: had this assignment? And the top five best-looking coaches, according
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: to this thing, which, by the way, Bone, they said
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: each image of a coach was assessed using a six
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: facial proportion measures, including face shape, facial thirds, eye spacing,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: and the relative distances between the eyes, mouth, and overall face.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: So there you go. Makes sense of that. How about
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Dabo's going to come up here in a second, but
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: how about Manny Diaz from Duke? I think it's the hair, personally.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: It's got him up there. Manny Diaz, number one. Best
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: looking coach, according to this. As he should be. That
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: hair is plush. Now, how's Kurt Cignetti, too? Kurt Cignetti's
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: a big old dork to me.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: He's like the Dan Aykroyd of college football. How is
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: he anywhere near the top 50?
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: He's the number two, according to this, he is the
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: number two most attractive coach. Dabo Sweeney, number three. And
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: listen to this, Bone. Dabo was informed live and they
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: had no knowledge of this. Listen to him get informed
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: live in his press conference that you have been ranked
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: as the number three best-looking college football coach. You've been
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: ranked third in the country in terms of attractiveness of
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: head coaches.
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: You're ranked number three.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: As in, like, good-looking?
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Finally something comes my way.
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: I thought you were going to say, like, most hated
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: guy or whatever.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: You're behind Diaz and Cignetti.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Apparently.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Apparently.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: We'll have to process that. What kind of reputable website
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: is this we're dealing with?
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Using six facial proportion measures, including face shape, facial thirds,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: eye spacing.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Wow. Relative distances between.
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: Did Kath get 22 votes?
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Uh....
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: I do remember, I do remember, oh, Kathy, she would
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: be so mad at me. I do remember, I don't
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: know what year, well, maybe it was right when I
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: first got hired or something, they did Coach's Hottest Wives
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: or something, and she was the second hottest wife. And
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: I'm like, well, who was number one? And I think
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: it was Lane Kiffin's wife.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I can't remember. This was a long
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: time ago. The wife Lane Kiffin was cheating on. Anyway. Anyway,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I just throw that in there. I've got an issue, Mac,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: with the list here.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I know it's not a serious list, but Kurt Cignetti,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: not even the best looking coach in his own state.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: How would Kurt Cignetti, Mac, be above Marcus Freeman on
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: this list?
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw before he had hair transplants.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman's not in the top five. I don't have
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: a problem. I'm secure enough as a man to tell
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: you how the heck is he not a top five?
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman is a great looking man. And I don't
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: mean to stir up the Palmetto rivalry here. Oh, yeah.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Isn't Shane Beamer more? Absolutely. Is this a debate we're
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: going to have today on the show? Is it wrong?
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Do I have bad taste in men that I think
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Shane Beamer is more attractive than Dabo?
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: No offense to Dabo. Yeah, I'm not even sure. Manny
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: might not even be my most attractive coach on my team.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: I got a lot of good-looking men in my life.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: I would probably go Dabo over Beamer.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Really? Really. Man, I don't like your taste in men. Well,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: you do like them kind of folksy, though, don't you?
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: You're an older man. You like your men a little older.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: You like your boys. I've seen the way you look
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: at me. A little country, a little folksy.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: But I would take Beamer over Cignetti. When I look
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: at Kurt Cignetti, he looks like a mad scientist. And
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: most scientists are not good looking.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I think he looks kind of dorky. They're nervous. Like,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I'm looking for the pocket protector on old Cignetti. We
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: did have the bottom of the list, Mac, which was
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: not just not. Poor Charlotte. Poor Charlotte and poor Tim Albin.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Come on, man. As if things aren't hard enough for
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Tim Albin and Charlotte, he ranks 137 out of 138
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: coaches in terms of attractiveness. Only Barry Odom from Purdue
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: is behind Tim.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Tim Albin. Poor Panther Bo. Y'all see Tim Albin up
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: there on campus. Anybody on campus in Charlotte today, give
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: that man a hug, y'all. That man needs a damn
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: hug on multiple levels. Tim Albin yesterday, Bo, acknowledged, as
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: we now steer it back to football, I can only
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: imagine what the text line is saying about this conversation
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: we're having.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: There's an entire Reddit thread about how good-looking Marcus Freeman is.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: And there should be. And there should be. But anyway,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: let's steer it back to football here, Bonesy. Tim Albin
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: yesterday acknowledged that Chance Williams is no longer on the roster.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: The running back had a big 40-yard run against Ole Miss.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Pretty damn good game. And He is off this roster.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: He would not acknowledge why, so I don't know the
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: details on it. Carmani Alexander now I expect to be
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: the No. 1 guy. He had 138 against the Citadel
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: in Week 1, but Albin acknowledged, hey, this is a
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: committee-type situation. So anyway, the hits keep coming for Charlotte.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: They have a hard enough time already, never mind kicking
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: productive players off the team.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: That's all.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just, as we said yesterday when that
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: news broke, the program can't catch a break. They have
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: a productive running back, does well against Ole Miss, and then,
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: you know, days later he's gone.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Did want to mention that NC State will be going
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: up against Vanderbilt this week, and we found out yesterday
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: State will be going against the highest-ranked recruit in Vanderbilt history,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Jared Curtis, the quarterback, freshman quarterback. He had not been
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: starting the first couple of games, but he did throw
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: 22 passes, run eight times on Saturday. against whatever Scraboni
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: they were playing, Boney. It slipped my mind right now.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: He had three of their four total touchdowns in that game.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: It was just a matter of time. Although you brought
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: up an interesting point off the air about the way
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Vanderbilt handled this.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: I saw some people talking yesterday. If you intended to
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: go to him this early, and you mentioned the numbers early.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: And I'm sure everybody knew that he was starting pretty early.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Why did he not get full go against lesser competition
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: as a starter instead of coming in and splitting the
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: time if he's your guy Delaware they played this past
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: year he's your guy why did he not just start
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: the first two games get comfortable give him tons of
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: rep wouldn't you want to make a lot doesn't mean
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: so then then you play your best team so far
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: and now he starts wouldn't you want to maximize your
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: reps I'm sure they knew we're starting him soon here
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a matter of Vanderbilt I
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: know he's from Nashville we are in an era of
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: college football Mac where when you have five-star freshmen you
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: better play them early because if they get disgruntled, it
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: doesn't take much for that five-star to say, you know what?
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: I could have went to Georgia. I may now go
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: to Georgia. You got to keep your five-stars happy, especially
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: when you're at a school like Vanderbilt who doesn't get
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: many five-star quarterbacks. Yeah, he was a Georgia verbal commit,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: and Vandy pulled the robbery. So anyway, that just adds
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: to this game, man. This is a hell of an
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: important game for NC State, and I don't know. He's uber-talented.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: But to get him early in his freshman season, can
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: DJ Elliott, you know, we talked about with Belichick, can
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: DJ Elliott find ways to confuse the young buck a
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: little bit? That's 1245 SEC Network on Saturday. We need
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: to mention Bone because we talked about it in a
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: very similar time frame. In this hour yesterday, the whole
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Arch Manning thing, and I know a lot of texters
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: stood up for Arch and were upset about that we
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: had a problem with Arch Manning laughing and joking around
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: about the AI video of Sark smacking Holly Roe. It
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: wasn't just Arch. It was worse that the grown adults
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: of the media were dying laughing. But Arch Manning did
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: issue an apology on Instagram yesterday. And Holly Roe said,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: accept your apology, Arch. Thank you for calling me. They
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: had a conversation as well. So you knew this was coming.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: And like I said yesterday, as a dad, as a
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: dad of a knucklehead, and as someone who used to
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: be a knucklehead and had to have conversations with my
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: dad about it, you just know that that phone was
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: ringing very quickly after that got out. And it was...
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: It was his dad on the air or on the phone.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it. He said, what the hell
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: are you doing? Imagine how many calls he got, Mac,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: from legendary family members. Well, his dad of Cooper, yes.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: But then I'm sure Eli probably called and then Peyton
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: called and then Archie called. Imagine, Mac, messing up in
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: that family, how many phone calls you might get from
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Manning Royalty.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: You think Cooper told everybody? Can you guys all call
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: him to really drive this point home? He's a knucklehead.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: And that painting man he called also. The alter ego.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: And again, I don't want to get the sensitive text
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: line going. I'm not acting like Arch Manning committed a
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: felony here. But it's just like, bro, you're going to,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: like I said yesterday, you are going to be the
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: face of an NFL franchise. You are the face of Texas.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: You and Sark are the face of Texas football. Just
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: think about what you're giggling about here. And by the way,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I never understood why that AI video was made. I mean,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: AI just does dumb stuff all the time, but like
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Sark is the one that wronged her. Like Sark is
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: the one that was a jerk and blew the interview
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: off with her. So like, it should be, you know
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like she should be upset with him.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: So I don't even understand why they did that to
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: begin with. I don't know.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: The person under Fire Mac was also the guy that,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: I forgot his name, the Texas media member that tweeted
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: it and said, this is gold.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: He said, the response from Arch is gold. Evan Veith
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: tweeted out, the answer is gold. And man, he got
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: as much. Obviously, he's not the name. He apologized, too.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: He got the wrath of just about everybody also for
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: calling it gold, as he should.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely apologized, too. So, again, not the end
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: of the world, but Arch learned a lesson. As many
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: bros do, myself included, when you are a young dude
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: like that. I mean, I'm still making knucklehead mistakes. Not you.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: You and Fitty aren't at all, though. That's not happening
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: for you guys. No, no, I'm mistake-free in 2026.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: When we come back, we had a chance yesterday to
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: talk to former Panther and longtime NFL player, Coach Brentson Buckner,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: it's must-hear audio. He breaks down the defensive issues for
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: the Panthers as well as anybody can. What went wrong
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: here from Buck Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ, Mac Imbone with you. 678 number says,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Kurt Cignetti looks like the principal in every 80s movie.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: That is actually a hell of a text. That is
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: a great line. That is a hell of a text. Yes,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: how is that man the number two most attractive coach
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: in college football, according to this survey? He looks like
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: a guy that would have a problem with Ferris Bueller's behavior. Yes, yes.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: I was going to make the same joke, by the way.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I like it. I like the way y'all are thinking.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: 704 number says, the amount of passion that you guys
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: have over which coaches are attractive in college football is
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: a little strange.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Well, you remember, Mac, I was supposed to do my
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: top five list back in the summer.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: I know, I know. This was Fitty's wheelhouse, man. He's
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: got a lot of opinions. And you denied me. Panthers
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: might be near the top of the NFL list for
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: that also. Yes, definitely, definitely. Hollywood A says, Signetti looks
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: like Dwight Schrute. Oh, Sweet T, we're not alone. Sweet
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: T was asking before we brought him up, where did
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman rank? See, we ain't the only bros thinking
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Freeman should be up there. All right, anyway, let's get
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: back to football, y'all. Let's get back to football. But, yes,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: we are all way too into that attractive coach list.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: And, God, I feel for Portimmy Albon. Someone says, Bone,
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: where does Brett Bielma rank? I'm not saying a word.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: How's he not bottom five, that big old moose head?
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: How's that dude not? I mean, seriously.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Big old moose head.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. All right. Anyway, let's go to let's
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: get Brenton Buckner in here, who is not a big
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: old moose head at all. But, you know, we love Buck.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: This was an emergency. We had to call Buck in
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: for the second straight week on the show as a
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: guy that played defense and coached defense in the NFL
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: to give us perspective on what he saw from the
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Panthers defense and a Vero scheme. You're going to hear
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: about that here, too. But the first thing we wanted
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: to know was what really stuck out from about this
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: defensive performance.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: First of all, let me put this out here.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: We know it was a bad performance, so I'm not
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: making excuses for any of that. We all saw it
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: was a bad performance. The thing that I saw that
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: you really don't understand is communication.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: You know, you look at this defense. Yes, we put
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: together early in the preseason.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: In the offseason rather, but then you add a brand
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: new middle linebacker after preseason games were over with, after
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: two-a-days were over with. And you got a lot of
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: young guys playing. And this group really did not play
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: together in the preseason. People don't understand communications between defenses
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: just as important as it is for offense. Or getting
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: a feel for one another. You know, a linebacker knowing that, hey,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: my partner might not steal this to me. He might
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: box it back, let me slow down. Or a defensive back,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: he might not get the full communication out, but his
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: partner should know, all right, we're going to change the
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: coverage and we're going to rock this way. And what
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I saw was, a team that hadn't gelled together defensively.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Now, I cannot make excuses.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I did see a lot of missed tackles and a
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: lot of missed fits. And I'm a coach that always
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: believes tackling is they want to. You can't go do drills. Well,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: you can go do them, but you can't teach a
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: person how to stick his face in the fan. He
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: got to want to get that person on the ground
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: by any means necessary. And then you couple that with
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: an offense– Ran by Ben Johnson is one of the
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: most complicated offenses in the NFL.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: It was a recipe for disaster.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Was the run game like– we'll talk about dealing with
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Caleb Williams and those issues in a second. But the
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: run game, right? Each back goes for over 100 yards.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Menungai had the big 61-yarder. Was that– did you think
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: that was more– like of them moving people and guys
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: not being able to get off blocks? Did you think
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: there were missed tackles? What was the run issue you saw?
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I thought that was them moving people.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Especially on that 61-yard run, I believe, they moved people
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: and the guys that were free to make the tackle,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: the guys that were getting moved got in their way.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: But I'm still not going to make an excuse. You
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: still got to find a way to get him on
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: the ground. Now, we used to always say defend every
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: blade of grass. If you got to trip him at
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: the one-inch line, get him on the ground so we
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: can line up and we can play again. And what
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: began to happen was you get punched in the mouth
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: over and over again, and they have a success with
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: the run. I thought guys started to panic. And they
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: started looking to make tackles rather than play the defense. Yeah. Well,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: let me knock you back. Let me get my gap.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Let me hold my gap. Let me trust my guy.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: It's going to be what he's supposed to be. Let's
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: converge and make the tackle. You start seeing guys start
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: to panic and start to try to make plays by themselves,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: and it breaks down the fabric of the defense.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Buck, how much tougher is it now, overall football, I know,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: offense too, but to be a defensive player in week one,
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: how tough is it now with the limited hitting in camp,
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: the lack of preseason games? How tough is it now,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: especially when your first game, as you said, is against
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: the Ben Johnson offense to really get after it like
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: you normally would as the season goes along?
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Watching games this weekend, I made a statement that this
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: is the first time in a long time that I
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: saw offenses were ahead of defenses during the first regular
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: season game. I've never seen it before like this. But
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: it's really hard.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Because you take the physicality out of football. You can't
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: thud up. Well, they'll say thud up in practice, but
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: as soon as.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: That running back gets thudded up and he falls on
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: the ground, head coach is having a fit. I got
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: fired by Bruce Aarons about four times during training camp
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: because we were thudding. And the running back would go
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: to the ground and he would have a fit. So
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: you take that tackling part out of it, that thud,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: that wrap up out of it, and then you don't
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: play in the preseason games. You don't tackle during preseason.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: But then you're going to go tell these guys, now
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: let's go 100 miles per hour. No, tasseling is something
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: you've got to get your body course to. And it's
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: not so much as the hitting, it's the willingness to
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: fall on the ground. That hurts just as much as
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: hitting somebody. And when you're not used to doing it
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: for two months, where for the whole offseason you've been
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: tagging off or you've just been wrapping up, letting go, well,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: you do what you normally practice. And so now this year,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: more than ever, I see it with a whole bunch
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: of defenses. Just don't think Carolina struck. We thought Houston–
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Texas defense is going to.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Be the 85 Bears.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos defense got ran through.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: So you're seeing it all over the league.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Buck, let's cut to the chase here because I know
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: fans are thinking, Mac, you've got to ask him about
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Averro and his scheme. I'm sure you hear it, Buck.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Averro is a hot-button name. There are Panther fans that
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: don't like a lot of his stuff schematically, right? Soft
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: zones or, hey, we're giving cushions with the corners, and
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: it's third and four or something like that. And then
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: they see a game like this, and I think they just, oh,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: it's got to be Averro, man. Why is he still here?
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: What do you think about Averro's defensive scheme, and do
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: you have issues with it? Do you like it? What
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: would you say to the fans that really blame Averro
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: for these defensive issues?
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Hey, man, schemes, you can have great schemes and have
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: a horrible day from your players and you look bad.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not the scheme. Now, you know, and
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: this is a coach and me speaking. Everybody wants to
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: say fire the coach, fire the coach. Let me tell you,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: when coaches are sitting up there, defensive coaches are sitting
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: there watching film, when everybody's in the bed and they're
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: hugging their wife and.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: They eat potato chips and ice cream, every defense that's
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: drawn up is meant to stop every play on paper. Now,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: When you get into the game and those X's and
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: O's start to move, there's so many variables that go
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: into it. Miscommunication, misfit, mistackle, somebody loafing, somebody over-pursuing. So Rivera,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: you know, Rivera, he's not a horrible defensive coordinator. They
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: had a bad day. He's not the first defensive coordinator
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: that's going to have a bad day. You weren't saying
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: that last year when it was– When they was winning games,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: they were balling defensively toward the end of the year,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: and it was the same guy. That's why I don't
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: like the point of the finger.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bad.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: The coaches would tell you, hey, man, we got to
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: get better. The players would tell you, we.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Got to get better. So it's a.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Group effort in this. So I'm a fan of his.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: You know, if he playing off and they're stopping people, oh,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: my God, it was great. He didn't let them get
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: behind him. Now they lose the game, so everything you
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: do is under the microscope. Bruce Aarons used to say this.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: The same thing they hire you and love you for,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: the same thing they're going to boo you and fire
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: you for one day.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, that makes a lot of sense.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: It does.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Talk to us about the idea. This is Avero's mentor,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: certainly one of them, is Vic Fangio. Oh, by the way,
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: the Vic Fangio scheme with Philly– Two years ago, won
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl and was the No. 1 ranked defense
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: in the NFL. I just want to point that out. But, like,
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: the Vic Fangio scheme is built on right buck, a
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: lot of the umbrella coverage, let's keep everything in front. Now, obviously,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: they didn't do that the other day, and it was ugly. But, like,
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: what do you– do you like– because some people will say,
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I don't like– Some people say,
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: I don't like the 3-4. Others will say, I just
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: think it's too conservative. Like, what do you think as
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: a defensive guy about that scheme, that mindset?
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Man, you just said, Big Tango just won the Super
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Bowl with it. But look at the players he had.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Then he went to Miami and they ran him out
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: of town because they didn't like it.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: You know, and there's a misnomer out here about the 3-4.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: The 3-4 is the most successful defense in the history
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: of the NFL.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Let's not get that twisted now. Baltimore Ravens, 3-4.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: New England ran a 3-4. Denver Broncos, both of their
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Super Bowls, a 3-4. You know what the Steelers have
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: done with the 3-4. You know, it's a great defense,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: but all defenses struggle. You know, Tampa Bay won a
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl with Bruce Aarons running the 3-4 defense. A
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: lot of times, it's not the scheme. It's not the coaches.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Sometimes the players.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Got to take.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Got to take ownership of, was I in my right place?
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: You heard something that Carolina Panthers defensive player said, I
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: put bad film on tape.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I can't do that.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Now the 3-4 can't make up for pass rush integrity
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: where you get a free rush in Phillips, but the
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: other defensive end goes inside and now the quarterback runs
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: away from a sure sack or a pressure. So what
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: that has to do with 3-4 or 4-3. And let
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: me give you a little secret. The 3-4 and the
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: 4-3 is not about scheme. It's just about what you
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: label your fourth rusher. If you label him an outside linebacker.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: It's a 3-4.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: If you say he's a defensive end, it's a 4-3.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: So take that misnomer out your head that 3-4 and
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: 4-3 are totally different. It's just what you decide to
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: call your four guys as rushing.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: There you go. That is Brinson Buckner. I just want
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: to put on the record a guy that played the
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: game for years at the NFL level and coached it
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: as well. And many texters, Bone, do not agree with Buck.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: It was us yesterday. We were defending Averro, and y'all
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: were mad at us. Today, it is Brenton Buckner that
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: you are now angry at.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: Why would we take the word of a guy that's
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: played high-level football back in college in the pros since when?
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: The late 80s, right?
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: Oh, man.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Anyway, we'll talk more about it. These defensive numbers about Averro,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: we got to talk about later on the show.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone Show,
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: are you buying that Clemson is on upset alert against
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: the Heels? A lot of hype going towards the Heels.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: And what about the Gamecocks? How much trouble are they
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: in with the Bulldogs of Mississippi State?
• 47:28
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