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6-30-26 Hour 1 - World Cup PKs: Yay or Nay?/Percentage chance Jokic will stay/Hunter Goodman is RAKING · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Moser, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we were just talking about this, but I
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  Speaker 2: want to go back to it because I've just I've
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  Speaker 2: realized something. I'm somebody. I love everyone. I really don't
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  Speaker 2: have people that I hate in my life. I really don't.
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  Speaker 2: But there's nothing that will get me to be what
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  Speaker 2: you accuse me of. Then when people call me an
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  Speaker 2: American chauvinist, and this is happening again during the World Cup,
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  Speaker 2: something happens. What do you mean American chauvin So here's
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  Speaker 2: what happened. The Athletic put out an article yesterday and
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  Speaker 2: this was after all these games ended ended in shootouts,
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  Speaker 2: penalty kicks, one of.
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  Speaker 3: The greatest days of sports drama I can remember.
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  Speaker 2: And the article, look, I'm not even saying I agree
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  Speaker 2: with it, but the article was something similar to the
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  Speaker 2: idea of what the NHL does. They will have, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a shootout at the end of a regular season game,
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  Speaker 2: but they will not do it in the postseason because
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  Speaker 2: that feels like a silly way to end a game
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  Speaker 2: that matters. So the Athletic was just They wrote an
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  Speaker 2: article about, well, how can we fix this toward games
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  Speaker 2: don't end this way? Now, I think it's incredible drama.
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  Speaker 2: But they were yelled at by every single person that's
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  Speaker 2: not an American saying you don't know anything about soccer,
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  Speaker 2: you stop trying to change our game that sort of thing,
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  Speaker 2: and then call you a whole bunch of names after that.
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  Speaker 2: And I read some of the replies as it is
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  Speaker 2: one of my favorite things to do.
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  Speaker 4: Like this.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait for the World Cup to finish so
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  Speaker 2: Americans can go back to their sports. This is so exhausting.
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  Speaker 2: We are tired of American opinions on football, better, better,
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  Speaker 2: more appealing. It's all rubbish americanizations. That person's from South Africa,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know what, fine, then I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: be that guy. If this is how you're gonna speak
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  Speaker 2: to me, then I'm gonna be.
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  Speaker 3: I don't blame you one bit, I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 3: mind being the ugly American.
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  Speaker 2: In this situation. I'm like, if you if you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: accuse me of it anyway, then I'm just gonna I'll
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, fine, Moser's been to foreign countries. I've been in
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  Speaker 3: plenty of foreign countries too.
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  Speaker 2: You have not.
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  Speaker 3: You've been to one, been to two, Okay, but you
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  Speaker 3: haven't been to Europe.
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  Speaker 2: That Europe.
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  Speaker 3: You haven't been to a lot of these places. You
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  Speaker 3: know they're nice.
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  Speaker 4: According to Bretty, he's been to two. He's been there.
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  Speaker 4: So Mexico and Mexico, let me tell.
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  Speaker 3: You how it works. Let me tell you how it works,
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  Speaker 3: because tell me if I'm I'm right about this, I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying most of these people are nice. They're nice people,
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  Speaker 3: but behind your back, when when you're not paying for
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  Speaker 3: tourism stuff to feed their families.
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  Speaker 2: Basically, what do you think they're saying? Motion exactly right,
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  Speaker 2: So you know what screw exactly like if you already,
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  Speaker 2: if you're going to dislike me from the very John,
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  Speaker 2: I don't disagree, Fine, I'll be that guy.
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  Speaker 4: I thought this was America.
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  Speaker 2: See, this is one of those things like we were told.
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  Speaker 2: And I will fully admit I am not the most
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  Speaker 2: sophisticated soccer fan. I don't have a vast knowledge of
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  Speaker 2: international soccer. But I was told that the US beating
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  Speaker 2: Paraguay was no big deal. Paraguay sucks, Bro, and then
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  Speaker 2: they beat Germany yesterday knocked them out.
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  Speaker 4: Bro.
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  Speaker 3: This Saturday is the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of
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  Speaker 3: one of the greatest upsets in sports history.
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  Speaker 2: It's war sport.
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  Speaker 3: When the America US team took on the British team
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  Speaker 3: on US soil. Yeah, without any pros, all amateurs. It
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  Speaker 3: was like miracle on ice.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 3: There were no pros on the US team, all amateurs,
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  Speaker 3: all militia and beat that ass.
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  Speaker 2: And we came up with the distinct strategy of not
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  Speaker 2: walking in a straight line into battle.
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  Speaker 5: How do you want to fight? Everybody? Get the line
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  Speaker 5: in with your legs kicked up high?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Can I Can I be that guy? How is
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  Speaker 2: anybody convinced to be on the front line of any
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  Speaker 2: of those things? It's like, can you please wait? Didn't
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  Speaker 2: South Park have this once? They called it Operation Human
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  Speaker 2: Meat Shields.
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  Speaker 5: It's just the front row is just a shield of.
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  Speaker 2: Bodies for the people behind you.
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  Speaker 4: I want to be that guy. You're not that guy.
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  Speaker 6: I'm being that guy. We're coming up on the two
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  Speaker 6: hundred and fiftieth anniversary.
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  Speaker 2: Of the great best country who's ever existed of.
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  Speaker 6: The Declaration of independence. Now, the freaking war didn't enduntil
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  Speaker 6: seventeen eighty three, and then if you forget the British
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  Speaker 6: came back again and we got how they.
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  Speaker 4: Burned down the wire.
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  Speaker 2: We had a whole nother freaking battle.
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  Speaker 6: Like they're like, you know, twenty five years later, they're like, hey,
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  Speaker 6: you know, thirty years later, we want a peace still,
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  Speaker 6: and we're like, we have to kick your ass twice.
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  Speaker 2: James Pulk threatened to do it in the eighteen forties
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  Speaker 2: again and they said no, thanks exactly, like, hey, is
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  Speaker 2: this okay? This is it?
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  Speaker 6: So you're right, Vic, but we didn't. I mean, that
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  Speaker 6: was just sort of the the kickoff was in seventeen
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  Speaker 6: seventy six.
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  Speaker 2: We must stop the terror. I call upon all nations.
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  Speaker 2: How watch his drive? Now, the US is going to
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  Speaker 2: play tomorrow, and I'll be honest, hit to my trash
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  Speaker 2: talking if they lose to Bosnia Herzegovina. So I really
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  Speaker 2: hope that they don't do that because I take great
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  Speaker 2: joy in winning at something we're not supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: good at, because it's just another check in the plus column.
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  Speaker 2: I can't have a loss tomorrow, So how do we
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  Speaker 2: make sure that doesn't happen, score more goals than the opposition.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's going to help you know what's happening
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  Speaker 2: in this tournament. The pressures get into a lot of
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  Speaker 2: these dudes, and the difference between winning and losing. When
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  Speaker 2: you get to the knockout stage, you can have the
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  Speaker 2: much better team. You can have a team that possesses
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  Speaker 2: the ball for eighty percent.
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  Speaker 4: I mean Germany dominantly.
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  Speaker 3: You can have all of that. You can have all
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  Speaker 3: of it, but if you don't finish. Yeah, yeah, we
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  Speaker 3: see it in hockey all the time. You can dominate
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  Speaker 3: a game, you gotta finish.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. I guess Germany got goldie yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: You're right, they got golid This is the one time
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  Speaker 3: I'll agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: They got golie.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Brazil almost got goalie man, Yeah they did, Yes,
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  Speaker 6: I mean think of Brazil versus Japan. Netherlands got extras.
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  Speaker 6: Morocco was pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Morocco should have won it in regulation time. Then
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  Speaker 3: wide open goal off. I can't believe the dude missed well.
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  Speaker 2: Tough time seeing the goalie for the Netherlands make the save.
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  Speaker 2: And anyway, dude, you know you're so right about what
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  Speaker 2: you said. Earlier, and I heard it.
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  Speaker 3: On my way in. All we were told when the
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  Speaker 3: US trounce Paraguay was you guys don't know what you're
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  Speaker 3: talking about. Paraguay is and also ran that's a middle
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  Speaker 3: market team. Nobody cares. And we kept saying it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: matter what Paraguay is. What matters is the US that
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  Speaker 3: night look like an unreal team. Yeah, they played like
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  Speaker 3: the best soccer I've ever seen them play. Now, how
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  Speaker 3: do you feel about that win over Paraguay? Curious?
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  Speaker 4: How do you feel now?
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  Speaker 2: It looks a lot better? And what's funny is when
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  Speaker 2: you dominate a team like that, it's like, well, the
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  Speaker 2: team stinks, okay. Is this what a good team is
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  Speaker 2: supposed to do to a bad team? Now, that's what
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  Speaker 2: it's supposed to look like.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I have some bad qualities about me, I'll
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  Speaker 3: freely admit. And one of the qualities is I love
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  Speaker 3: when other people share in the pain that I've been suffering.
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  Speaker 2: Like, jump on in, So what I.
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  Speaker 3: Did yesterday knowing that you know, Italy was not in
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  Speaker 3: the tournament at all, they never even got there. That's
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  Speaker 3: been a lot of pain for me. As soon as
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  Speaker 3: Germany got eliminated.
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  Speaker 2: You know who the biggest.
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  Speaker 3: German soccer fan is at KSA because Jason Causes, he
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  Speaker 3: was born in here, he speaks Germany, he watches bundes
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  Speaker 3: So as soon as lost that as soon as they
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  Speaker 3: lost that game, I I texted him and said, Rip,
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  Speaker 3: I just had to do you want to? I had
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  Speaker 3: to Schodenfreude, Yes, I had somebody else had to come
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  Speaker 3: into my home and feel my feel and he came
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  Speaker 3: in willingly.
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  Speaker 6: But the drama now that we've gotten to this stage,
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  Speaker 6: the drama of the knockout is huge because the Netherlands.
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  Speaker 6: Netherlands have a good team in France. I mean, watch
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  Speaker 6: Sweden give France a tough time today. I mean, we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know the problem I have with Morocco, like
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these teams to be totally blunt. Do
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  Speaker 3: you know how many Moroccans on that Moroccan team are
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  Speaker 3: born in Morocco?
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  Speaker 2: The starting eleven.
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  Speaker 4: Couple zero zero zero.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that should be allowed.
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  Speaker 3: Zero zero Moroccan born or lived in Morocco. They all
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  Speaker 3: are from Europe, basically zero one guy who I think
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  Speaker 3: saw some time in the earlier group stage, but the
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  Speaker 3: other guys, all the guys you saw yesterday all from Europe.
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  Speaker 3: We are the even citizens of Morocco. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: but they're not Moroccans. They don't hang out playing their Moroccas.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think yeah, yeah, thanks Nelly. I said this
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  Speaker 2: four years ago. I think it was like the the
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  Speaker 2: Basketball Olympics or the yeah basketball in the Olympics, where
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  Speaker 2: I was looking at all these teams, I'm like, he's
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  Speaker 2: not from there. Yeah, he's never lived there. Why is
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  Speaker 2: he allowed to play there? And they're like, well, he
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  Speaker 2: actually had some family lineage. Like really remember during the
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  Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic a role as Chapman, who do you
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  Speaker 2: try to play for? Was it like Ireland or something
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  Speaker 2: like that? And they were like, you don't have any
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  Speaker 2: of that blood in this isn't allowed, can't do it.
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  Speaker 5: I just don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: So wait, that's true. Somebody says, hey, vic Bosnian knocked
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  Speaker 2: out Italy, you can get revenge tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: That's this is now double No, I'm not about at
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  Speaker 3: that point, Bosnia deserve to be in they beat my team. No,
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  Speaker 3: it was shameful enough. I like it when the big
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  Speaker 3: dogs get beat. Now I'm rooting against all the big dogs.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted Brazil to lose badly. I love that Germany lost.
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  Speaker 3: See to me, Okay, so today I understand something.
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  Speaker 6: So today's it's what it's Ivory Coast Sweden and gets
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  Speaker 6: Sweeten out of there.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what it's like for me, all right, here's what
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  Speaker 3: it's like for me being on team Italy all my life.
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  Speaker 2: Italy. Germany.
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  Speaker 3: Germany is my Miami Hurricanes. As a Notre Dame guy,
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  Speaker 3: that's what. That's what Germany is. I've hated Germany from
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  Speaker 3: the day they set foot on earth. Forget World Wars.
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  Speaker 3: It's their soccer team, all right, And I apologize and
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  Speaker 3: I mean this well, all the Germans out there listening
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  Speaker 3: to the show. Nothing personal. I just hate your soccer
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  Speaker 3: team and I want you to lose. So I was
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  Speaker 3: very I was overjoyed yesterday when Germany lost.
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  Speaker 2: One of my favorite jokes in Norm McDonald is about
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  Speaker 2: that Germany. It's great, it's great, went to war. They
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  Speaker 2: chose as their opponent the World, and you thought, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this will take five seconds for the World to win. No,
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  Speaker 2: it was close, because why you.
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  Speaker 5: Keep fighting the world.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think you want Mars funny?
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  Speaker 5: I want all the bigs.
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  Speaker 2: Out of here. Well, France is playing Sweden today. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're going for swedenen right, it's frank Sweden.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh of course that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Number two, they're behind them. That's another team. That's another
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  Speaker 2: team that doesn't have any French. He's on it. Everybody's
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  Speaker 2: from somewhere else. Really live France's roster bro Spain like that.
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  Speaker 3: Spain, get the hell out of here, France, get the
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  Speaker 3: hell out of here.
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  Speaker 2: Argentina.
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  Speaker 3: I'll settle a lot of the times in Argentina.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take that one. Really.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you said you want the big dogs out,
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  Speaker 3: but that's the one I'll take.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's no bigger dog than that England US US
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  Speaker 2: number one. Obviously I want the US.
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  Speaker 3: And if you don't think US has a chance to
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  Speaker 3: win this, you haven't been paying attention.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they really screwed around in game three, all right.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't play the most they played, They played guys
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  Speaker 2: like Nelly. Yeah, they played their bench anybody. But it
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  Speaker 2: also gave them a harder draw into the round of
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  Speaker 2: thirty two?
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  Speaker 4: Did it not beat the teams in front of you?
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  Speaker 2: Come on a harder draw?
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  Speaker 4: Look at this guy.
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  Speaker 2: Something about what we were talking about earlier, and then
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  Speaker 2: that flute. Nelly would absolutely during the Revolutionary Revolutionary War
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  Speaker 2: have been the guy who plays the instrument as you're
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  Speaker 2: going into battle and gets murked in. I was gonna say, think,
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  Speaker 2: how stupid that is.
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  Speaker 5: What's my job, sir?
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  Speaker 3: I want you to play this flute as we're marching
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  Speaker 3: towards the opposite.
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  Speaker 2: I want you guys to hear just just all of
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  Speaker 2: the stomping from the soldiers. Yeah, Nelly, So here's what.
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  Speaker 4: If I if I me they're shooting, what do I do?
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  Speaker 4: No play that flute. If I was on the.
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  Speaker 6: Other side of be doing this, sir, I'm gonna take
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  Speaker 6: out the flute.
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  Speaker 2: Well, don't waste, don't waste. He doesn't even have a
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  Speaker 2: whipping Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But you know what sound?
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  Speaker 5: I can't stand that damn flute.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, wasn't there's some look not that they've followed this protocol.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't there some like supposed to be an unspoken agreement
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  Speaker 2: that you don't take out the guy that's playing the
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  Speaker 2: the trumpet, you don't take out the guy that's carrying
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  Speaker 2: the flag. I agree with you. I followed me on
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  Speaker 2: this one. We're down this rabbit hole. Let's segment. Listen,
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  Speaker 2: our guys are hiding in trees, they're laying in tall grass,
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  Speaker 2: and Britain's just here.
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  Speaker 5: We are here, we are everybody.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like Jimmy, Jimmy, smoke the flute first.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, would you look at that vict It's time to
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  Speaker 7: go to commercial Oh jeez, we have to stop killing
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  Speaker 7: ban nerds.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody ever thought of the strategy of not announcing your arrival.
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  Speaker 2: I got one more angle to this.
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  Speaker 3: Remember how we always talk about going back in time
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  Speaker 3: and what good would you be if you went back
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  Speaker 3: in time. You can't invent anything, but let's say you
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  Speaker 3: were holding a drone and you went back to the
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  Speaker 3: Revolutionary War and you had access to a drone.
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  Speaker 2: You also need a cell phone and cell towers.
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  Speaker 4: One of the things you probably other than.
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  Speaker 3: That, But could you imagine if you showed up at
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  Speaker 3: the Revolutionary War Marke with a drone.
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  Speaker 4: Hang on a second, here's what I need.
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  Speaker 6: One full tank of gas, one fully low did a
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  Speaker 6: ten warthog.
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  Speaker 5: Right one day.
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  Speaker 4: Against the British.
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  Speaker 6: I got you, I was, I'd say it's a one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you take out the flute, is yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Start with the flute. Then nail the nail drums.
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  Speaker 4: Then I'll start.
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  Speaker 5: Then I'll start worry about the.
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  Speaker 8: Guy with weapons after that, repelic gun imagine repelican basically
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  Speaker 8: imagine we're in the big war meeting, right, We're trying
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  Speaker 8: to get our strategy together, but US three out.
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  Speaker 2: Of everybody in our army, US three just keeps saying
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  Speaker 2: I've already called divs on the flute. Guy, Okay, I've
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  Speaker 2: already called divs. No taking that away.
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  Speaker 5: If I were a war.
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  Speaker 3: Strategist, I wouldn't be in there saying okay, open field,
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  Speaker 3: everybody line up and just march and be seen and heard.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not that dumb.
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  Speaker 5: I would be like, all right.
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  Speaker 3: Hide, hide in caves, trees, just don't be seen.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't.
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  Speaker 4: Wouldn't you go that route?
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  Speaker 2: It's like George Washington's a genius.
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  Speaker 5: She hit that's me god.
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  Speaker 2: Uh So anyway, go America three O three five O
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  Speaker 2: four oh nine two five back after this.
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  Speaker 4: I just come to let you all know, stop put
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  Speaker 4: some respect on my name.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all stand me when y'all saying my name, put some
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  Speaker 2: respect on it? Hey, hey, On Textra says we need
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  Speaker 2: Brett in his judge voice telling the young soldier who's
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna have to play the flute and be on
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  Speaker 2: the front lines? All right, Hey on him, Lets see
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  Speaker 2: how you do this? All right? Ye for big battle.
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  Speaker 9: We gotta let the enemy know that we're coming. It's
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  Speaker 9: very important and somebody has to do this job. I'm
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  Speaker 9: good to need you to play the flute for the
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  Speaker 9: boys because you're a good kid.
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  Speaker 2: You're probably not gonna come back.
• 17:13
  Speaker 9: They take your nerd, they're gonna target which somebody's gotta
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: do it a.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Job, sir, What was your role in the Great War?
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I was the lead flutist. Put some respect on my name.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: I can't stop thinking about this.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I can't stop thinking about the idea. You see a veteran,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: like especially like back then, somebody comes home from war
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: and it's just like you can only imagine he yes,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: and they're like, or you break a deer.
• 17:47
  Speaker 10: Parachutist played the flute for the guys.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Oh god, oh all right, all right, enough of that.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Tell you what's funny about that?
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Brother, brother, brother in law.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: Bob grew up in Williamsburg, Virginia, born and raised Williams.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: They don't get more colonial than Williamsburg, so him and
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: his brother and you got to you got when the
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: kids are born, you put them in looking for a spot.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: He did the Drummond Fife thing, dress up in the
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: thing and do the marching and the thing, and.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: He did all that. That actually totally checks out. Check.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: I had a question about the TV.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: From Yeah, are we done with the Kic thing? Are
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: we over it? Can we stop talking about it? Or
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: are people still worried about it?
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I had a conversation with somebody yesterday.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I saw a couple of things too that I that
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: I was sideways on.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Went to the press conference yesterday where they introduced.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: It to newest Nuggets, the young rookies who they drafted
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: in the second round. And by the way, they're going
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: to make every effort to get younger. Uh, the average
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: age of an NBA roster gets younger every year, younger,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: more athletic, and by NBA standards, if you look at the.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Unless you're golden state.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: They're looking for aarp cost and they got a fluids
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: leading that charge. But talking to somebody yesterday about the
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: whole Jokic thing, here's here's what I'll come to. Here's
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: here's My final thought, is it concerning that Nikola Jokic
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: hasn't been more proactive in signing his extension? Is there
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: a concern there? Yes, you'd be lying not to think
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: it isn't concerning, But to take a concern and automatically
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: assume that he wants out and he's forcing the hand
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: is also wrong.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I'll leave it at this.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I think Nikola Jokic is handling this con track much
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: the same way he plays basketball at his own pace.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Nobody speeds up Joker right, he plays at his own pace.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: There's no reason in his eyes to rush to sign.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Perhaps he has ulterior motives, and maybe they have nothing
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: to do with the team and the performance of the team.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but there are other things that play
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: beyond just team performance. For a guy like Nikola Jokic,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: He's made more money than he ever imagined. He's not
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: gonna walk away from this cash.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Mind.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: If cash is to be made, he's gonna He's gonna
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: take the cash unless something else develops. And what that's
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: something else is, I don't know.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: But if you think this.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Is the kind of guy that's pulling strings trying to
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: force the Nuggets hand, you don't know.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Nikola jaw I saw.
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: A post yesterday that then elgets need to do something.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: Joker is putting the pressure on them. I'm like, that's
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: not who he is, number one, That's not who he's
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: been number two. I don't think people truly understand the situation.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: They did one year ago. They did a lot. They
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: did a lot to try and get this team back
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: to a championship, a lot, and they're still trying. The
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: problem is with what you've done now, there's not a
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: whole lot you can do because the way the CBA
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: is constructed, So you may have to, as Vic says,
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: take a pause year, take a down year, or a
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: backup tiny bit year in order to get where you
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: want to get again because things are so restricted inside
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: the current agreement they're trying. I I don't know what
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: else to say. You take a run at it, it
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: didn't work. Injury was a big factor in that, and
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: now you've got to think of a different way to
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: do it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: So I want to play something for you. This is
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Krrekman and Springer yesterday talking about this subject. Listen to
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: some percentages I'm giving this. Jokic could leave thing like
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: less than one percent. I'm giving it like twenty five percent.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Wow yeah, wow, Hey, look over again.
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: Don't don't don't focus on the twenty five, focus on
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: the seventy five.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Okay, seventy five is really good.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I preferred my ninety nine but even better. Yeah, that's
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: sure saying.
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: I don't know if they don't do something that changes
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: the look of this team. And I'm looking at you know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: defense and athleticism.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we know the problems.
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think in the ways to truly fix
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: those issues, not band aid them, but actually kind of
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: get in there and fix them is to trade a
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: Jamal Murray or an Aaron Gordon.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Stop.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Stop stop.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Everybody wants to see change for the sake of change,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: because I don't think they believe that this current rendition
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: of the Nuggets has it anymore.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: So they want change.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm gonna ask you a question, and I
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: want you to answer it.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: What if that change makes you worse?
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Very easily could everybody?
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Because everybody loves a different look, Like you go buy
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: a different set of sunglasses. Sometimes I'm one different look,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: different haircut, different look.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: What if it makes you look worse?
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: I've been thinking more about this Jalen Brown situation. I'm
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: not sure I want if the Nuggets. I don't know
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: how much they're really truly pursuing it, But I'm not
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: sure that that is going to make you better.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: That's just a big change.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Everybody assumes that a new face, a new look is advancement, right.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: It's shiny and cool. But are you gonna win fifty
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: four games? Right? So I mean, are you gonna contend?
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not being pessimistic toward that at all. I'm just say,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: what do you think they're sessing right now? They're sessing
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: all of it. Do they think it's going to make
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: them better or worse? And for the short term or
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: long term?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: What is it? I'd say this, first of all, I'm
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: much more in the Correkman camp of I think it's
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: less than one percent. I think it's a tenth of
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: one percent chance that he leaves, not even that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: But but when you make make this known, if he leaves,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: and because he could lead, he ain't leaving to play
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: for another team in the NBA, that is correct, he
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: wants you.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: He would go back to and that would be it.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Well, two, that sends two things on that real quick.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Number one, I don't think that's happening. Number two, the
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the change for change his sake thing and vix Wright.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: If you do make a pretty seismic shift like what
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: we're talking about, there is a chance that you're worse
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: and not better. But if the starting point vict to
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the conversation is I don't think this team's good enough anyway,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I think that's that's worth the risk of rolling the
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: dice of getting worse, because if you know the outcome
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: of the current thing now isn't good enough, you might
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: as well try something different.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: But Brett, do we really know that?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: You see, the problem is you can't run back the
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: same team that you had last year because you're going
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: to be financially restricted. But I thought that team was
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: good enough at the start of last season, So did I.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: Honestly, the team itself healthy, I think might be good enough.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: They might be. Yeah, they might be, and you don't.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: The problem is you don't know. I don't have a
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: definitive answer to that because we didn't get a fair
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: shake at it because ag was dust and Peyton Watson
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: couldn't play anymore.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Well, let me give you two bits of information number
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: one for those freaking out, freaking out about the Jokic extension.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Do you know what date he signed his last contract extension?
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: And this is why I'm curious if if this felt
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: the same last time he signed at July eighth of
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. We aren't in July yet, so maybe
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: it was was calendar pushed back a little bit farther
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: because the COVID smashed together season whatever. Maybe, but he
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: signed it in about a week and a half from now,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: four years ago.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Agents of chaos want to portend to chaos to help
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: their cause.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Yeah, you know what
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: But say that again, say it one more time.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Agents of chaos want to portend for more chaos to
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: help their cause.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: That's how they function exactly.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: So whatever rumors are swirling out there and that are
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: being led to people's ears, they're done for a reason.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: They want the Nuggets to panic. Sure, they want the
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: NUGG to do something quick, something rash. Psychological warfare, Yeah,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: I mean going back to again to the Revolutionary War.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: That's why you put a flutist in the front line.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: It's psychological freaks them out.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I just don't think anybody here in town with the
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Nuggets organization. After speaking to some folks yesterday, they're not worried. No,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: it's not a problem.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Now are they?
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Are they assembling a trade package for Jalen Brown.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're talking like a lot of teams are.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what that package consists of?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, you mentioned you mentioned this yesterday.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: I think it just it makes me that it just
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: sort of makes me nervous. I'm not sure I'm super
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: down with it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: If if they're engaging in Jalen Brown trade talks, you said,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: the concern coming off of that, if it were to happen,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: would be what would involve Jamal got to have guards.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: It just declined picket's option.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which it's interesting that happened after the press conference. Yeah,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: could mean guard during the works.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm assuming.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Free agency opens today at four o'clock. Four o'clock today,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Denver time. This is when trades, if you're going to
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: get trades, today's the day.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't think maybe that flew under the radar yesterday.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Them declining pickets option, I don't think is a small detail.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Well, here's the detail in that that means Ties Jones
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: is probably assured a roster spot.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: That's what it means.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: That's fine, that's your backup point guard right now, Ties Jones,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: they have at a veteran minimum. Yeah, because you know what,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: a re signing Jalen Pickett actually would have been better
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: for the bottom line, sure for the pocketbook by at
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: there's a cheap contract, and you won't find that kind
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: of contract on the open market with veterans.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: You won't not that cheap.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: But Vic, that's exactly why I was like, hmm, you
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: need to fill out your roster. You don't have a
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: lot of money to do that, and you just declined
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: an option on a guy who has played for you
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: a lot, but has played on a very cheap contract.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I was like, so what does that mean? It did
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: perk an eyebrow yesterday. You know what else I found
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: out yesterday?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Guys, deep in the bowels of Ballerino, there is a
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: mindset that is not dissimilar to ours about in hindsight,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: they wish they would have reacted a little more thoroughly
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: and openly in that first round series loss when Jade
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: McDaniels called him out. So don't be surprised if they
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: had somebody to fulfill that role, between players or the
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: whole organization.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: Everybody, everybody there should have been. There should have been
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: a or not prodded, not contrived, but a more natural
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: reaction to a guy. Yeah, questioning your character as a team.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: I just think they've played it too cool for school mode.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and it bit them.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree. Tescher says, is it just me? Or
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: did Pickett get a raw deal here? I thought he
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: played well in the minutes that he got.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Well, clearly there's something that we're not seeing. I mean,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: they see him in practice every day, they see development
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: like no other. Right, We're seeing him in spurts. The
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: opportunities they get played great in the month of January.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Remember some of the threes he was making in a
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Philadelphia game. Do you remember when Joel Embiid came out
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: to try and guard him at the three point line
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: and he stepped back and stuck a three right in
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: his face.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: So I don't think this is going to happen, but
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: we've seen it before. Could I imagine a world in
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: which Picket goes somewhere else and becomes a role player
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: on another team that actually gives him decent minutes. Yeah,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I could see that. I mean, we just saw it
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: with Colin Gillsbie. He's getting what is it, twelve million
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: dollars a year now from Phoenix. Hartenstein's getting twenty five
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: on top of his last contract. He just signed three years,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: seventy five million to stay in Oklahoma City. So I
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: think it's possible. You know. This is why when we
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: were talking to Adamars before the draft, he said something
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: that I think should be the priority this year, which
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: is they need to make a commitment to play everybody
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: consistently over the course of the year. Can't be out
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: of necessity. It can't be when five guys are hurt
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: on your team and you just need a warm body
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: on the floor. You need to play guys with other starters.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: You need to play Julian Strawther with Joker. You gotta
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: do that more consistently.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: So the names you're hearing right now, so Jamal Murray
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: and Cam Johnson to Boston for Jalen Brown and Sam Hauser.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: If I'm the Nuggets, I would.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Tweak that a little bit.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I would tweak that.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: I would say, okay, fine, Jalen Brown, Jamal Murray, say
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: what you want about their talents. Both very very impressive players.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Call that a wash. Cam Johnson goes there for a year.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Because this contract expires. We need point guards instead of
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Sam Hauser, give us Peyton Pritchard.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I knew that. Yeah, I do that deal. Uh Pritchard.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Richard makes seven he makes less than Hawser. He makes
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: seven point two million. That's a bargain and he's signed
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: for three more years now. He may not be elite,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: he may not be top notch, but he's not.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: But he's not he's not he's not a door.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: But he's also a playoff performance. Yeah, he's a playoff performer.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: Is that?
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Would Boston think they're giving him away way too much?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Richard's a good I mean, he's seventeen points a night
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: is not mean small.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Hey listen, I'm not the one initiating the conversations. Boston's
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: the one that's got to get rid of Jayalen Brown.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, they have to.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: He's I think the chances of him being on that
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: Boston roster for Game one this next season.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Is about I mean, they still have Derek White, and
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: you know, listen, everybody that says, hey, how about Derek White?
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: The money just doesn't work. He makes too much money.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Would love Derek White here. I mean I think we
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: would all three that Derek White would look awesome here.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: He would welcome it himself. But it's just not going
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: to work financially. So Peyton Prichard and a Jason Jaylen
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Brown for Jamal and Cam Johnson, let's go, let's go.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I mean I do that. I just is he the
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: kind of player he being Jaylen Brown talking about Jayleen Brown?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: He's not the most pushed the peace cut. I don't know, man,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know. She has thirty games. I understand. I
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: understand that. I stand that.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Is there enough ball to go around with? He and
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: the big fella?
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Does just a big fellow look like that? Does the
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: big fellow look like he cares about his stats? No?
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: But I'm just I'm just trying to put everything on
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: the table so we can officially look at it.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: The big thing with Jalen Brown and I heard him
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: on a podcast, I think he's tired of being the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: second fiddle. Well, he'd be the second fiddle here, I know.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: I think he's tired of it and he wants to
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: be Well, then go to then go to Memphis.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, sure, go to Portland.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Well they just got jaw Well Joh's not the first
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: fiddle there. I want to talk about that later because
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with John anymore.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: You know, It's it's interesting, it's how.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Many how many guards do they have it?
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: They got a bunch of guards in Portland. Yeah, yeah,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: they got Scoot, they got they got guards. They got
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Drew Game, a bunch of guard heavy team. I'm gonna
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: have to unload. So you're right, that might be a
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: place you look.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Talk more about this in a bit three oh three
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: five O four nine two five back after this. All right,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: we talked about this for a second yesterday, but I
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: want to bring this back up and and give it
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: a little bit more time. I think it deserves it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I said at the very beginning of this year, the
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Rockies are not a good team, but they are a
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: fun team. They are. They do some really stupid things,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: and they do some really fun things. Yesterday, and it
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: couldn't get somebody out, and so the game got out
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: of hand. Miami wins ten to seven. But in the
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: middle of that, Hunter Goodman hits his twenty sixth home
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: run of the year. He is five off his pace, sorry,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: five off his total from last year, where he hit
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: thirty one as an All Star catcher Mash. I believe
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: he's won away from the all time record before July
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: in Rocky's history. Takes into account Larry Walker and Todd
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Helton and Big Cat and Ellis Burks and all the
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: different bombers from back in the day. He's one off
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: of the most homers before July in Rocky's history. He's
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: twenty six years old. Is he a trade piece or
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: is he a have to keep guys?
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: That's a great question, man. I would keep him to
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: core this team forever because that doesn't go away. What
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: he's doing doesn't go away, and power hitters are hard
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: to come by on this specific roster.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Look at there's not a lot of dudes who hit bombs.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Let's look at it. It's goodman, it's Moniac and Rumfield,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: and that's kind of it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Why would you give one your best one away? No,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: there's plenty of other guys you could trade.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Now, Now, there's always an asking price where I'd bend
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: if you get a couple promising arms.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to listen. Somebody would give you. He
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: is somebody would give you a gigantic hall for him, gigantic.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: And I know the Yankees. The Yankees catchers are hitting
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: like a buck ninety. If they would give away the
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: farm for a guy like Hunter Goodman because they think
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: they can't hit this year for whatever reason, might put
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: him over the top. But I sureat of got I
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: almost have him in a category of you either send
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: me a king's ransom or don't give me a phone
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: call at.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: All, because I think I'm ready to go to a
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: Rockies game.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Oh I've been ready, I've been ready. There's but seriously,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: the way I think about Hunter Goodman, and it's difficult
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: to have this conversation with Rockies fans because when you
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: have when you're talking to somebody who thinks they're going
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: to perpetually suck, it's hard to try and think about
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: a positive future with people like that. He's somebody that
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: when if hopefully you do eventually get competitive two three
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: years from now, you would like him on your roster.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: You could be there, yeah, and you would like to
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: have him. Every time you get somebody who's good, you go, oh, good,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: we can trade him for prospects. Well, then you're hoping
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: the prospect can be as good as the guy that
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: you just traded, and then what you trade him again
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: for more prospects.
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: It just seems that the conveyor belt continues on and
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: then when you when you develop the next prospect, you
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: try to move him for Yeah, it just it becomes
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: a conveyor belt of mediocrity. Now again, they're they're what
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: year one now or they're in their first year into
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: this new with deepest Yeah, into this new idea about
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: how to build this ball club.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: So they should be afforded a little runway.
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: But when you do eventually get at least competitive, I like,
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: I'd like to have that guy around.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's already the best hitting catcher in Rockey's history.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: No, no, no doubt, no doubt.
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean I guess yeah, I mean, he's got
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: all the power. It's amazing because I started to look up.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's the best hitting catcher in the league.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: But the Rockies have had, you know, you look at
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: the stable of catchers they've had in their short history.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Your vat Territory. Alma played during the World Series.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Runta. He was okay, is fine, but the way they
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: just had what's his face? You all start from a
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: couple of years ago.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Don't forget playoff Heron Walters legend.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Tony two bags. Why am I blanking on the catcher
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: from a couple years ago? He was the MVP of
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the All Star Game? Diz?
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Yes, oh yeah, Diaz.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that came out of left field. Literally he was
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: okay for you know, a year or two. Yeah, Tony Walters,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I like that guy. I like Tony. Now. Counterpoint would
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: be this, you remember when cal Rawley hit sixty bombs
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: last year? Yeah, he's hitting hundred a buck sixty seven. Yeah,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: you know what?
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: I was looking up the guys who had the most
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: home runs versus the lowest batting average, And if you
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: go back in history, Schwarber's really good at this. In fact,
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: he hit forty homers in twenty twenty three and he
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: hit a buck ninety seven.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Can I try and name a couple, sure, at least
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: recent memory guys. Mark Reynolds has to be on that list.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't see him on that list. What Chris Davis?
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: What's the list include just the most home run, low.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Batting average, high home run?
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: Adam Dunn?
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: How about Adam Dunn is on that list. Joe gallow
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: was on that list.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: What about big Sexy Richie Sexon not on that list.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Rob Deer is on that list. And here's an old
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: name that that VIC will love.
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: And by the way, Dave Kingman, Okay, Dave Kingman.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: He led the Bigs in home runs in eighty two
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: with thirty seven. That's it.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: He led the sorry, he led the al aighty seven. Yes,
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: and Harper's already at thirty and he.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Hit two h four that year.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: It's just it's amazing how the game has changed. Because
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: I'm looking at at Goodman's average two forty five, not bad.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: We've gone round and around though so many times about
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: how batting averages. There's no contact hitting anymore, mos mosh.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: It's I don't know if you know this, you jacket
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: or what. I'm being dead serious.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: The Rockies, I think, are a top five team in
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: batting average right right. They got guys who put the
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: bat on the ball. They just don't have a lot
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: of pop. And so I mean, look think about this,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: and so Jake mc is all about the pop. Bro.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Jake McCarthy's been great this year. He hitting three zero six.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Troy Johnston's hitting three twelve Runfield's hitting two ninety four.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: You've got a bunch of guys that are hitting for
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: average that just can't banging out of the ballpark. And
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Hunter Goodman's kind of like a little of both.
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: But there was a time if you hit again, it's
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: a rarity when you have a guy with a bunch
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: of homers. And there was a time, man, if you
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: hit below two seventy.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: You're kind of considered weak. Bro.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you're like put him in the seven
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: eight hole, you know what I mean.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: That's kind of how it was.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: But but Goodman is very boom er bust he's got
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: So he's got twenty six home runs? Now, how many
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: strikeouts he has this year? How many tacky guess? So
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: he's got hang on, hang on, hand, let me see
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: this real quick. He's got how many at bats? Three hundred,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: three hundred and two at bats? How many strikeouts? Three
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: hundred and two at bats? But probably a lot one
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: hundred and nine. Okay, he strikes out a third of
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: the time, but he's got twenty six bombs. Now, No,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: take take this into account. DJ Rumfield has nine lesson bats.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: He's at two hundred and ninety three. He struck at
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: only forty eight times a year. You go, what does TJ. Runfield?
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Do?
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: He gets on base? Yeah, this and this, the catcher
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: bangs the ball. It's just funny. It's just funny.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's always been guys like that, but it
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: just seems to be way more of the norm nowadays.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: So again, I don't know the right answer to this.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: It feels a lot like he's the guy twenty if
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: he was twenty nine, completely different discussion. He's twenty six.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not letting that walk, not right now when you're
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: trying to get better. He's your most viable trade piece
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: right now. Human sens sends us up there too. That's baseball, right, Yeah.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: The Rockies are a top five team in OPS and
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: they just can't don't have power outside of like three
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: dudes don't have power. So anyway, three h three five
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: four nine two five Rockies Currently, after that loss last night,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: they're thirty three in fifty two. I swear to God,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: if that witch, if he if he hits, if he
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: hits on that number, Yeah, if he hits that number,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: because dude, it's gonna be if they keep this pace
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be right there.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Why is it so weird to know that they're twenty
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: games under essentially, and yet it feels like they're having
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: a good season still.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, they still have the worst record in baseball
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: right now, I and if generally, it just feels I
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: can't come to terms with that. They literally have the
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: worst record in baseball, and I feel as if there's
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: so much improved and this is they are improved.
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: I know they are improved because last year was an abomination.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's true, But I genuinely mean this. I am
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: watching the worst team in baseball. I watched them quite
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: a bit, way more than I thought I would. There
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: they are fun to watch. I don't know how else
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: to say it, Like they actually get clutch hits when
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: you need them. They're they're pitching staffs in absolute disaster,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: but at least they're they're most of their bullpen. But
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: it's like, how about this, vic That team doesn't quit
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: for the worst team in baseball, multiple times they've been
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: down five six runs late in the game, battled back
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: to tie it or take the lead. That's just it's
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: a strange quality for a team that it's worse than
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: the league.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: But why can't they be? Why can't they be Arizona?
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: Why can't they be the Marlins who got them last night?
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: Why can't why can't they be you know, forty two
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: and forty.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Two or something along those lines.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: Why can't they be?
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Because they'll have a lead going in the seventh inning
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: and not be able to keep it. It hurts Thanks,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: well you were asking the question. I mean, that's big.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: I'm not talking about specifically, I'm talking about just overall.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: Why can't they be that? I think they will be.
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: I think they're on their I think let me state
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: that I think they will be that. But that that's
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: even that itself is.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: A low bar to set, just to go full nerd
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: on you for thirty seconds and then we'll take a break.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: I thought, that's what you've been doing for the last
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: twenty Right, another thirty second, Jesus God, one day. Here's
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: here's the encouragement regulator can help me for a second,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: just a second. The encouraging thing is this, when you
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: have somebody who is first of all, outside the organization
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: that has taken over. That was the first positive step.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: You need some outside blood. You needed a new way
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: of thinking, what he has done is found a roster
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: full of guys that can play. These are MLB players
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: that are in your lineup right now. He did that
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: this offseason. And what do you do with the pitching staff?
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: He put thirty eight year old band aids on it
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: in Chugano and Michael Lorenzen in veteran guys where He's
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: just like, I'm just gonna do this for now, all
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: hopefully with the idea, and this is what he thinks
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: can happen. I'm focusing on that next year. That's going
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: to be the focus. So if he can do what
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: he did with the pitching staff, with what he did
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: with the overall lineup, who knows, maybe next year could
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: be like quasi five hundred baseball.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, did I know this was a goal of yours?
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: I know this was a goal.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: You've just officially completely glazed my eyeballs over.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: At ops. They're actually clear.
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: Why don't you and d Matt go in the production
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: room and play tickle fight over ops for the next
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: eight hours?
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Informative or boring? Three oh three, five oh four O
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: nine to two five.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: I think it's both.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, you were an option. That's not an option.
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: Well that that.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it is an option. I think you were.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: You were informative, but it was also did your eyes
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: glaze over? Yes? Or no?
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Hey, we don't pay you for ops thoughts. We pay
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: you for that new Jersey judge accent. Remember who you are.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I told you you guys are going to get at
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: least two minutes of Rockies baseball a day, whether you
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: like it or not. But not on ops.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah three oh three ops, three oh three, five oh
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: four oh nine two five?
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Did your eyes glaze over? Yes? Or no?
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I didn't even pay I was in a different world.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: I've been looking at my phone.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: You're always in a different world.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: On base plus slugging is OPS back after the