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End of the Road - Why We Stopped Stopping for Tolls · Dirt Nap City - History's Most Interesting Dead People

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_02: So when I was a kid, I used to go on long car rides with my parents, and there was a time where we would pass by something, and my dad would always say, That's the worst job in the world.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_02: Do you have an idea what that would be that he would consider the worst job in the world?
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: So he would see people doing this and he would say it was the worst job in the world.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um were they cleaning out an outhouse?
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: No, you'd think it would be something gross like that.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: Were they were they um directing traffic in the cold?
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_01: Were they um up on a uh a cherry picker repairing telephone lines?
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: No, you'd think it was a gross or dangerous job, but actually it was just a boring job.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: What what did your dad consider the worst job in the world?
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_02: It was the job of a toll booth operator.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, don't even you know what?
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of agree.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of like so, yeah.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: I have thought for years that that is the most replaceable job you could ever have.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: And and there are there are some great toll booth operators.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: Don't get me wrong.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: I've I've had some people most don't exist anymore.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: They have all mostly been replaced.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but occasionally, occasionally you get someone, you go through a toll booth, and there's somebody there, and they give you their exact change and they smile and they say, Have a great day.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_01: But most of them were just surly, didn't say a word, looking at their phones in recent years.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's that's uh this weird mix of you get to see a lot of people, but never really see anybody for more than a couple of seconds.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_02: You're with people all day, but you're also alone all day, right?
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're handling as we've already established on previous episodes, money is filthy.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_02: You're handling money, or you're wearing gloves where it's hard to handle the money.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, very repetitive task, usually in the cold or the heat by yourself.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_02: Man.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um but uh so I want to get into uh toll booths a little bit, tolls, tolls roads, toll booths, um, because it seems like toll roads are are um increasing more popular operators, yeah.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_02: And well, popular maybe not, but more prev prev prevalent while tow booth operators are going away.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: We don't have any humans.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there were tiny little human checkpoints though on one on the way from one town to the other.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_02: When you were a kid and you're going to we used to drive from Michigan to Florida all the time, and there were you'd you'd hit a lot of tolls on the way there.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: I know that you grew up going to Kansas a lot.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_02: There's tons of tolls in Kansas.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: But I will say, I will say that in Texas, um, there weren't a lot of toll roads in Texas until the nineties, maybe?
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: Or the two thousands?
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_02: I think the Sam Houston toll way was the first one.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no, Dallas probably had theirs first.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_02: But then Houston we got ours in the early nineties.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, it seems about right.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_02: I remember the do you rem I don't know if you went to do you remember um when the Sam Houston tollway opened, they had a big concert.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you mean the Jean Michel Jar?
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, that was a different thing.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_02: This was the um Bengals came and performed on the tollway to celebrate the opening of a toll way?
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what used to be free, we're gonna pay you're gonna pay for now, and here's here's a band to celebrate.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think you went, but a lot of us went and went to that concert.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_02: But um they were everywhere, it seemed like when we were growing up.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_02: If you drove far enough, you'd you'd uh you'd come up on a tollway.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um the 1980s uh the electronic toll way tolling started, and um, because of high maintenance costs and congestion and efficiency, they took away the toll booths, the man toll booths, and they kind of got into the the electronic reading, but the or throwing the coins.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_02: Remember the big basket you threw coins into?
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_02: I do, I do, I love that.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes you'd have a whole fist of of money.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like when you remember it'd be like a dollar seventy-five, right?
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_02: And you'd have seven quarters you'd have to throw, and invariably one of them would miss right, right, fall out, bounce off.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then it just you're sitting there with people honking at you.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_02: I remember one time, I think it was in Kansas, middle of the night, there's nobody around, and all I had was bills.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't have any change.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: So then you and that was they didn't have the arm up.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: So you wonder, do I put in a bill and just hope that, you know, or do I just run through altogether because a bill is probably not gonna count anyways?
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_01: Wait, wait, so the arm is down.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_01: How were you just gonna break the arm?
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_01: No, the arm is up.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_02: The arm is up.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, uh there's no arm.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_02: There's no arm.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's just you're gonna get no you're gonna get a ticket.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_02: You're probably gonna get a ticket, but you also put in a dollar just so you don't feel like you're breaking the law, or you just run the You mean drop a dollar in the basket?
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: Because it wouldn't even go in.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_01: It would just blow away, or the next guy would grab it.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_02: It wouldn't blow away because there was a funnel like in those baskets.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it would probably clog up the basket, and then everybody else behind you would be screwed too.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe, maybe, yeah.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the first toll road was you want to guess what year the first toll road in America came in?
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm gonna guess in 1945.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_02: 1795.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_02: It was the Philadelphia Lancaster Turnpike.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_02: Now, do you know the word turnpike?
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: I do know that word, but I have no idea where it comes from.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: Is it is it a French uh is it a French pastry?
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_02: No, you know, a pike is like a pole, right?
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_02: And they used to have a pole that would turn to let a vehicle through, kind of like the arms that we have today to go up and down, except for they would go back and forth.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_02: And there were, of course, horses back then, so you would have these big poles, and then when they'd pay, they would move the pole and it was let let the horse through.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_02: And it would cost between four and twenty-five cents, and which is about a dollar or two today.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_02: It was the this print heart, this turnpike uh went from Philadelphia to Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_02: It was about 62 miles.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what a turnpike is.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's a road with a pole that would let you go on or keep you from going on.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course, these days, you know, I think these days it's a turnpike if it's in the northeast, right?
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like that we don't really call it.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you don't really hear that much in Texas.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes they're turnpikes and they're not toll roads, I think.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_02: They just that's the name for like an expressway.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but the toll boosts back then were just these wooden huts, right?
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_02: And then in the 1800s, there was a real boom because a lot of these roads were private roads that were paid for.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_02: So especially in New York and New Jersey and Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, up there, um, they were really building a lot of um toll roads.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um you know, they still have manned attendance in um two states have manned attendance.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh is this because of the toll booth operators union?
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_02: They they've got to think it does.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_02: I do think it has something to do with that because when I tell you these two states, there's something else about these two states that's odd.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_02: New Jersey and Oregon.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_02: These are also the only two states where you still like in New Jersey, it's illegal to pump your own gas.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: Did you know that?
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: They have to have an attendant there.
• 8:09
  unknown: Yeah.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: And in Oregon, um in in rural parts of Oregon, they also make it where it's illegal to pump your own gas.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_02: So those two states are also the ones that have um toll booth operators.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: I think it does have something to do with the toll booth gas pumpers, local 42.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: Just basically anybody that can do a job that anybody can do.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: That could that could be done by gravity.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_02: Just so you know, the the day in the life of a toll booth operator back in the day is you'd work a four to six hour shift.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_02: You put on the uniform, which is like a reflective vest or a badge.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes you get the guy with the badge.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: And then they'd have to uh they'd park their car, and then they'd have to kind of dodge traffic, right, to get to their station.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, the cars weren't very fast back then.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: Cars were slower.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, okay.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_02: Uh you'd get in your booth and you'd check to make sure you had all the right change, all the right little tickets.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: And some of those people, like especially on those turnpikes, would give you a ticket that you'd give to the next operator.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right, right.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: Because that can't be done by a machine in the 80s.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_02: And of course, then you've got to deal with people who are new to this, right?
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_02: So they're fumbling for change.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: They're giving you the wrong amount, they're asking you where's the nearest KFC.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_02: Complaining about, you know, this didn't used to be this price when I was a kid, or you haven't got this road paid for by now?
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_02: All this, all those comments, right?
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I've pulled up, I've pulled up disorganized and disheveled so many times.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like those those things will just come out of nowhere, and then you're like, oh no, we need change, or we need whatever.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's the worst.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you've pulled up to this podcast, disorganized and disheveled.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's true.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_02: So you'd have weather challenges, right?
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's either too hot or too cold.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, then what do you do when the person doesn't have any money?
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that varies by state.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um sometimes they would dude, sometimes they would pull you over and there'd be a cop there that would rent you a ticket.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes they would make you fill out a form and they would send you a uh ticket in the mail.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes they'd give you one to pay down the road.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what good that did.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm still not gonna have any money down the road.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta rob a bank between here and there.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: I guess so.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_02: Because there's this is pre-ATMs, you know?
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_02: And it's not like you could just go to a bank, pull over, and go to a bank.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, most of them were wearing rubber gloves, too, because of the aforementioned uh filth of change.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, sometimes here you go, here's a penny.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_02: Spit it out and hand it to them.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes not only would they have the big giant basket that you throw money into, but sometimes they wouldn't handle money.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_02: They'd put out a little basket you'd put your money in and they'd pull the basket back to the cloud.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, and have a little clip.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_01: It would have a little clip to hold it down.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I remember that.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: But there'd actually be a person there that you couldn't talk to.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_02: Behind glass.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_02: The um so I'm I always wonder why haven't we moved to like app-based or phone-based systems by now?
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_02: And they say that that that's still like 10 to 15 years away, which is kind of surprising to me.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, do you have one of those technology you have one of those uh tags, right?
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_01: Because it used to be the text tag, um, and now it's the Harris County something or another.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like um But it's good in for all in Texas.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but why is it Harris County?
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: Why why is all of Texas Harris County?
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: I I remember when I had to switch over from Text Tag, which made sense in all of Texas, to Harris County Transit Authority or H H C T A, I think, right?
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: How how does Harris County have the have the uh monopoly on all of Texas?
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_02: Probably because they're the ones that's most organized, man.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_01: I guess.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: The most expensive turnpike in America is the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's 360 miles, and if you go from end to end, it costs about$110.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: That that is that is uh three bucks a mile.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, uh uh 30 cents a mile, I guess.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_02: Now, per mile, the most expensive turnpike is in Whiteface Mountain, New York.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_02: Have you ever been over to Whiteface Mountain?
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_02: So per mile, Whiteface is the most expensive turnpike.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's only eight miles long, this this toll road, and it's ten bucks.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: Is Whiteface built over like a gorge or something that required a lot of uh infrastructure to be built?
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_02: Probably like a tunnel or something, yeah.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um I was hoping you'd been there.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um the cheapest turnpike is the Ohio Turnpike and the Kansas Turnpike.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um Ohio Turnpike's like 240 miles and it's only 17 bucks to go from end to end.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_02: About between four and seven cents a mile.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um you know, and it's all automated now.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, but still, even even cheap, I just feel like toll roads are so they're such a kick in the crotch because you're already driving a long distance and you're tired of being in the car, and now I gotta pay money in addition to the gasoline and the snacks and the hotel I might have to stay in tonight and and whatever else I'm paying to be on this trip.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: Now I've got to pay to be on this road as well.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: I I I don't like it.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_02: But I gotta tell you, it's a lot easier now that I don't actually have to take money out of my pocket and do it.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, even though I might be paying more, I don't think about that.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: So so you have one of those um Harris County tags, right?
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: And so so is it just tied to your credit card and and anytime it gets below 20 bucks, it adds another 20 bucks in or whatever.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_02: And it's good for every everyone in the state.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: I guess it's like it's like Netflix or Disney Plus.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's just uh it's just a uh a subscription expense that you just um deal with.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_02: Now, remember before we had a game and I don't remember what we were trying to trying to do, but I gave you a name of something, and you told me if it was real or fake.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was something to do with uh like maybe real bands versus uh AI bands or No, I thought it was shoe stores or something.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was it was shoe stores, yeah.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna give you a name of some tags.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_02: You mentioned text tag and toll booth shoes.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: Toll booth shoes.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: Is that a real shoe store?
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: We're not doing shoe stores.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_02: This is uh But but it would be called Tollbooth Shoes.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_02: Sure, that's the name of this game.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_02: Tollbooth shoes?
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's go.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_02: All right, so I'm gonna give you a name of a of a tag that um and you tell me if it's an if it's a real one or a fake one.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll start with um we'll start with some easy ones.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um what about uh quick lane?
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: Quick Lane is real.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's fake.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_02: Quick Lane is the name of I think the oil change place at Ford dealerships.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I thought that was Quick Lube, but okay.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: What about Peach Pass?
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's the Georgia tollpike turnpike.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: You're right.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: You're right.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_02: That is.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: What about Metro Pass?
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: That's uh that's that's the turnpike that dresses um kind of dapper, and you can't really tell if they're gay or straight, the Metro Pass.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_02: What about fast track pass?
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, definitely.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_02: That one Nope.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: That's fake.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: The real one is called fast track.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: F-A-S-C-T-R-A-K.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's important that you get the fast track.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: Not fast track.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: Because it stands for fine, amazing, super track.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_02: Fast isn't a word and track isn't a word, but two of them together is fast track.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_02: I really hate that on my mic.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_02: What about Sun Pass?
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_02: Florida.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, that's yep, that's the Florida one.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: How did I know?
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um what about um Easy Pass?
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: That one, that one I I don't have it, but I think that's New York, or that's like a bunch of states.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there's an E Z pass.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_02: And then there's and then there's one that's E-Z pass.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: Those are two different ones.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: And then there's an E Pass and that's Florida and Georgia.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: Well, is did you look up where Easy Pass is?
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because I feel like there's one that goes as a matter of fact, I feel like the Harris County one works in Oklahoma, Kansas, and Missouri as well.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's called Easy Tag, though.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: Easy tag, okay.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, it's not pass, it's tag.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: What about prairie pass?
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: False.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's false.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: What about Quick Pass?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: With a KW or a Q U?
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: Q U I C K.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh False.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's a real one in North Carolina.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_02: What about Golden Gate Pass?
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_02: True.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: Nope, that's false.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_02: What about K-tag?
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: With their big hop, don't with their big hit, don't stop loving me.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh K-Tag, yeah, true.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: True.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's Korea.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's the Kansas, that's the Kansas one.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it was Korea.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh what about ever pay?
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh goodness.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: That sounds sounds like uh uh fake, fake.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's fake, yeah.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: That but that's what it feels like, right?
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: They just keep repay forever, right?
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: So that's my uh take on toll tags, easy pass, easy uh easy way.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: But the dead end here is the tow work toll workers, right?
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: The toll booth operators.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_02: RIP, man.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_02: Those poor people.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um well, they got better jobs because I do think it's a terrible job.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: That is a terrible job, and uh it's it's not idle enough.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_02: It's not idle enough to like read a book.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_02: It probably is though.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: But it's not not during rush hour.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, true, true.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: And then it's but it's not um busy enough to feel you know fulfilled.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know what it is?
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's too weak to suckle.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_02: Well, um, happy new year.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and uh don't RIP toll booth workers, you guys should all find another job.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: Become podcasters.
• 19:25
  unknown: Yeah.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: Whoever wants to match it, let's down with drinking big future on the three on one day.