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S4 E21: They Tried To Tell Us · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Fifteen, The Crazy You can see you breath.
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  Speaker 2: Out in the Lake Effect recon tables and guitar? Would
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  Speaker 2: you here?
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  Speaker 1: Where else would you have to be?
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  Speaker 2: And do ron Elvis in the lay Pansol remembers that
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  Speaker 2: you need to know?
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  Speaker 3: Don't you out here?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Your family?
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  Speaker 3: Where's would you have to be? Where else would you
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  Speaker 3: have be?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the Nicol City Crew. I am your host,
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  Speaker 1: Rob Crippin. Please like us on Facebook and follow us
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter at Nickel City Crew. This episode,
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  Speaker 1: along with all of our episodes, are presented by Crippen
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  Speaker 1: Legacy Entertainment here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so
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  Speaker 1: glad that you're joining us for some of your Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: bills and NFL content again today, and as always, these
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  Speaker 1: are my Bill's thoughts set out loud. He survived so ridiculous?
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  Speaker 3: Two three was sick?
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  Speaker 1: The show canect us? Where's would you like to be?
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get straight to it. Really excited for
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  Speaker 1: tonight's episode, as I always am. It's funny.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about it last week how it's a week
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  Speaker 2: to week league, and last week we got a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more of a humble pie slice. But it was
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  Speaker 2: in a different form and just a really oddly finishing game,
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  Speaker 2: And we'll go over all of that type of stuff
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  Speaker 2: and it just reminds you once again that you know,
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  Speaker 2: you never want to count your chickens before they hatch.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me tonight as always riding Shotgun my co host
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  Speaker 2: Adam Dump Truck Repsick. Check them out on Instagram and
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  Speaker 2: at the Crew DT. I mean, we knew that it
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  Speaker 2: was gonna be a big game there down in Htown,
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  Speaker 2: and it didn't just a point, but boy, it ended
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  Speaker 2: a little bit too similarly than some of us would
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  Speaker 2: like to admit, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Rob Rob, Rob, what's up man? Happy Friday night, Nicol City.
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  Speaker 3: We're out here at Tgif you know that last week
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  Speaker 3: I said it was good that the show was on Friday.
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  Speaker 3: Let me settle down a little, get into the bounce
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  Speaker 3: back Texans game this week. You know, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to repeat myself, but I'm happy it's on Friday. I'm
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  Speaker 3: kind of got that positivity looming again for next week.
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  Speaker 3: But we're a day later with a Monday night game,
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  Speaker 3: so we're just like the Bills practice schedule everything moves
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  Speaker 3: back a day and we get it rocking. So a
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  Speaker 3: lot to get into tonight. I'm always excited to be here,
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  Speaker 3: Rob as always Nicol City Crew. Let's get a cracking many.
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  Speaker 1: Click clacking me back.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because you know, when I thought
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  Speaker 2: about my my notes, and I didn't even share notes
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  Speaker 2: with you this week if you if you notice DT,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, my my brain's been all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: The anger that I felt initially after the game was
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  Speaker 2: because of the past. And sometimes when you're emotional, you
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  Speaker 2: make you know, different comments, or you'll make different things.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, so some of my notes from the
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  Speaker 1: beginning were just you know, crazy.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, well, by the time I was
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  Speaker 2: going to send them to you, I was like, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, it's not that I don't feel that way anymore,
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  Speaker 2: but like you just spoke to that, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: had a chance to finally calm down a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about it. Now, we've got to go back to the
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  Speaker 2: scene of crime before we can sift to Monday night
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  Speaker 2: and DT. As everybody knows, you know, Nicol City Crew.
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  Speaker 2: Bill's mafia bills lose twenty three twenty in a nail
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  Speaker 2: biter to the Houston Texans. But again it was the
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  Speaker 2: fashion in which we lost that was the most frustrating
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  Speaker 2: part for me DT especially on Sunday in the thick
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  Speaker 2: of it, because of the fact that it reminded me
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  Speaker 2: of the past and some of the mistakes that seemed
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  Speaker 2: to be cropping up again when it comes to McDermott,
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to clock management, some of the decisions
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  Speaker 2: that he makes and different things like that. Now, as
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  Speaker 2: the week progressed, I realized that I have to lay
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more blame at seventeen's feet, and I
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  Speaker 2: know that that makes a lot of members of the
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  Speaker 2: mafia uncomfortable as well. Whether he was concussed, whether he
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  Speaker 2: was just not feeling well, it doesn't matter. He didn't
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  Speaker 2: get even hurt until I think it was fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a lot of bad decisions before that, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, in respects of his game and
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  Speaker 2: the way that he was throwing the ball, and then
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  Speaker 2: obviously the receivers. We talk about everybody eats and we
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  Speaker 2: talk about how we didn't really buy it, and then
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  Speaker 2: obviously reared as ugly head last week with the with
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  Speaker 2: Shakir being out but one of the things that I
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  Speaker 2: thought of, DT, and I want you to speak to it,
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  Speaker 2: is that if Shaqui means that much to the offense's
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  Speaker 2: passing game, that's not really a good sign either because
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  Speaker 2: of the fact that if you're lying on one guy
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  Speaker 2: like that, I thought it was everybody eats last week.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was just so many different things together, DT,
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  Speaker 2: that really made this a clusterfuck of a game. It was.
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  Speaker 2: It was pretty bad when it when it got when
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  Speaker 2: the clock hit triple zerials.
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  Speaker 3: Well you look at that, you know, the Ravens game,
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  Speaker 3: and it was got beat up in all phases of
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  Speaker 3: that game, all defense, the trenches, special teams, literally every
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  Speaker 3: aspect you got beat up this week. You know, the
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  Speaker 3: score was a lot closer, obviously, but you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think it was a very similar mantra as the week before.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they got they got bullied kind of in
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  Speaker 3: all directions out there on that field. The defense did
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  Speaker 3: come back in the second half and held their own
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  Speaker 3: and come up with a couple of big, crucial turnovers.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean Sean McDermott obviously has his hands on
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  Speaker 3: that and Bobby Babbache have their hands on that to
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  Speaker 3: kind of lock down and get some plays that to happen.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, realistically, the ball bounces, the luck bounces.
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  Speaker 3: You know, our luck could have bounced to win that game.
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  Speaker 3: But Terrell Bernard covering two guys and getting the interception
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  Speaker 3: was luck. The fourth down play where you know where
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  Speaker 3: we stop him on fourth down is luck. And then
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  Speaker 3: obviously the the fumble to get it at the ten
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  Speaker 3: yard line with a chance to go up or tie.
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  Speaker 3: The game had to bounce our way for luck. So
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  Speaker 3: we did get brakes in that game just to get
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  Speaker 3: back in it, right, So I don't want to be,
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  Speaker 3: you know, super negative on that part. But the Ravens
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  Speaker 3: game was a lot different in score, but I think
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  Speaker 3: we got beat up all around the field in a
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  Speaker 3: similar fashion on Sunday in Houston, rob And that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of the concerning thing as we go into you know,
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  Speaker 3: only week five. We got a lot of game left,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of wins that we could
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  Speaker 3: get kind of coming into the to the to the rock,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, we need to really really make it happen.
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  Speaker 3: So the Khalisakir being is he the number one, it
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  Speaker 3: looked like it who wasn't on the field really at all?
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  Speaker 3: His rookie year kind of emerged but had extremely low
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  Speaker 3: snap counts, you know, going into last year and then
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  Speaker 3: so nobody people thought he was going to have a
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  Speaker 3: better breakout year. But with one week with him out
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  Speaker 3: of the lineup, he's the reason. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: you can say that right. So, a lot of a
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  Speaker 3: lot of things to dig into, a lot of things
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  Speaker 3: to digest here, but we got beat up. I think
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  Speaker 3: just as much as the Ravens game on Sunday. The
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  Speaker 3: score kind of maybe overshadowed that. But I think this
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  Speaker 3: team's got to look at it like this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's interesting that you said that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think that the defense played better, and
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  Speaker 2: even there were some pockets in the Baltimore game, obviously
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  Speaker 2: second half where they'd make those two stops in the
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  Speaker 2: third quarter before that fake pass, where you could say
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  Speaker 2: that the defense was blowing up and starting to play
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  Speaker 2: a little bit better.
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  Speaker 1: Last week, I thought that they played pretty well. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any really, you know, quroblems or problems
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  Speaker 2: with the defense last week. I think it's just the
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  Speaker 2: inconsistency of the offense in respects to this whole everybody
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  Speaker 2: eats thing. You mean, you know, it was highlighted last
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  Speaker 2: week DT. You know, they were not getting open those
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  Speaker 2: wide receivers. There was no separation that was being created.
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  Speaker 2: I think that they did metrics on it throughout the week.
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  Speaker 2: If you listen to WGR, they've been talking about how
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  Speaker 2: I think it was like fourth. You know, it was
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  Speaker 2: like fourth lowest in the league and respects to separation
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  Speaker 2: for those wide receivers that created on Sunday. And then
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  Speaker 2: what it did was it compounded by the fact that
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  Speaker 2: you know, Josh really wasn't that good. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: talking I'm talking to injury aside and we can get
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  Speaker 2: into that little drama you know, before we transition to
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  Speaker 2: the Jets, but you know, to be honest, he wasn't
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  Speaker 2: that good all day long. I mean, even leading up
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  Speaker 2: to that last drive where they've got that decision where
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  Speaker 2: they decided, you know, to pass three times and no
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  Speaker 2: he's nine at twenty seven DT.
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  Speaker 1: When have we ever seen Josh Allen play that.
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  Speaker 2: I think that I can unequivocally say that was the
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  Speaker 2: worst Josh Allen game that I've ever seen him play
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  Speaker 2: in the Josh Allen era.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll take it even under that.
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  Speaker 2: The Green Bay performance and that was like his rookie
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  Speaker 2: year when we want to scoring like ten points or
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  Speaker 2: something like that against Aaron Rodgers in Lambeau. It was
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  Speaker 2: really bad, DT, and he was spraying the ball all
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  Speaker 2: over the field. You know now he was heard. He
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  Speaker 2: was under duress a lot more. The offensive line obviously
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  Speaker 2: holds a little bit of weight and responsibility with that
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  Speaker 2: as well, But it was a situation where he never
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  Speaker 2: got comfortable. The pockets never seemed to be comfortable for him,
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  Speaker 2: and even though we were scrambling out, there was just
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  Speaker 2: nothing there if you look at it, even all twenty two,
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  Speaker 2: there was just nothing there DT.
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  Speaker 1: And I've heard a lot of people talk about trust.
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  Speaker 2: This weekend, and you could tell that their chemistry is
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  Speaker 2: not there and that Josh doesn't trust those guys.
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  Speaker 1: And then they were pointing to Shakir not being there.
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  Speaker 2: But man, like you said, week five, you've had all
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  Speaker 2: of preseason and training camp, mini camp. That's just not
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  Speaker 2: that's just not good enough for me in respects to
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  Speaker 2: an excuse. But it does look like that might be
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  Speaker 2: the case that Josh is just not comfortable with these
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  Speaker 2: guys yet. And I don't I don't necessarily know where
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  Speaker 2: to feel about that because it's it's been a while now,
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  Speaker 2: they've been working together for a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Lack of lack of preparation, you know, lack of preparation
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to that, when you know, it goes
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  Speaker 3: back to our off season conversations of you know, what
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  Speaker 3: was the plan? What was the ace up the sleeve?
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  Speaker 3: And I think we were really kind of putting all
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  Speaker 3: the eggs in the basket of you know, well, seventeen will,
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  Speaker 3: We'll figure it out. Seventeen will figure it out. And
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  Speaker 3: you know he he has and I believe he will
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  Speaker 3: this season for sure. But you know, like any it's
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  Speaker 3: not just seventeen, it's any quarterback in this league. It's
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  Speaker 3: a it's a tempo and momentum game, right And you
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  Speaker 3: saw it in the first three games of the year.
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  Speaker 3: When when one seven gets in that rhythm, he gets
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  Speaker 3: in that tempo, he's borderline unstoppable. I mean, we can
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  Speaker 3: all agree with that when he's on that. When he's on,
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  Speaker 3: he's borderline unstoppable. When he's off, he has struggled to
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  Speaker 3: get back into it. And in this with this roster,
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  Speaker 3: with this team, we put that on him this year. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: there's gonna be some down and out times and it's
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  Speaker 3: up to you to get us back into it. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's like, uh, you know your brother, right,
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  Speaker 3: if somebody you can talk shit to your brother, but
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  Speaker 3: if somebody else is talking shit about your brother, you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be You're gonna be pissed off. And and I
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  Speaker 3: agree in that statement. Anybody talking shit about Josh Allen
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  Speaker 3: this week, I'm gonna be the first one to defend him.
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  Speaker 3: But I think we can get critical tonight on Nicols
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  Speaker 3: City crew of one to seven. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 3: not the rookie anymore, the year seven. You know, going
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  Speaker 3: into a team that you are have to be the alpha,
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  Speaker 3: you have to be the leader. And granted everything was
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  Speaker 3: not his fault on Sunday by any means, nine for thirty,
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  Speaker 3: it falls at your feet a little bit. Nine for
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  Speaker 3: thirty a quarterback hasn't had that bad of a completion
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  Speaker 3: percentage in twelve years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's not just the worst game of his
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  Speaker 3: pro career, it's the worst game of an NFL quarterback
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  Speaker 3: in literally since since we were kicking it. I was kicking
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  Speaker 3: it in college, you know, So like this is a big,
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  Speaker 3: big deal in an alarming rate of we're chanting MVP,
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  Speaker 3: MVP on Monday Night football against the Jaguars, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: then back to back games of being a bottom tier
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  Speaker 3: quarterback in the league, and obviously nobody thinks he's a
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  Speaker 3: bottom tier quarterback in the league, but the statistics and
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  Speaker 3: the performance were not even bottom tier, were like dead
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  Speaker 3: last in yards and you know other bow Nicks who
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: you know in the in a brain game with sixty
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  Speaker 3: yards and they still got to win there. So it's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of it comes to the feet. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: you talk about the late game decisions and things of
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  Speaker 3: that nature. Well, if it is Joe Brady or Sean
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  Speaker 3: McDermott kind of mismanaging that game, that's Josh Allen. This
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  Speaker 3: is where I'm relying on you to make a change,
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  Speaker 3: to realize game management and game situation, to go out
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  Speaker 3: there and make the plays you need to make. When
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  Speaker 3: they get the fumble on the ten yard line with
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  Speaker 3: a chance to take the lead or you know, or.
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  Speaker 2: Or tie, so I can I give him a pass there?
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  Speaker 3: I'll give him a pass there. Kind of maybe came
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  Speaker 3: out discombobulated even whatever it was, it wasn't ready, but
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  Speaker 3: through kind of threw a don to James Cook on
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  Speaker 3: the sideline. It just didn't come out with it, and
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  Speaker 3: that would have been you know, first to go from
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  Speaker 3: the five. But I'll give the pass there. What I
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  Speaker 3: don't give a pass on is on the two yard line,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when we have to. It's been talked about
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  Speaker 3: all week. Why do we shot play it three times? Whatever?
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  Speaker 3: If we ran the ball three times, they got three timeouts,
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be pretty much the same result if we
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  Speaker 3: ran the ball three times.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't maybe maybe I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Not like I don't mind the first down, shot play whatever,
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  Speaker 3: But then second down comes around and if if that
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  Speaker 3: play call is another shot play, that's where that's where
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  Speaker 3: one seven has to you know, step in and say no,
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  Speaker 3: like we need to get this first down whatever means necessary.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not making excuses for the guy, but the
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  Speaker 3: hand has got to be broken, Rob right, something's wrong
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  Speaker 3: with that hand. He is a completely different runner of
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  Speaker 3: the football with that glove on, you know. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen of old, even in these and even in
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  Speaker 3: these game on Sunday and the Ravens game, is cutting
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  Speaker 3: it up and getting a few of those first downs
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  Speaker 3: when they punt. What was it, seven out of eight
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  Speaker 3: possessions they punted in the first half. Eventually he says,
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  Speaker 3: screw this, I need to get to the sticks and
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  Speaker 3: get the first down and get the tempo going because
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  Speaker 3: the tempo is where I'm most comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't want to get a hit, now, you can
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  Speaker 1: tell that exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm so on that on the whatever the play
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  Speaker 3: call was, if he was getting down from Joe Brady
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  Speaker 3: that to go up to mccollins or who you know,
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  Speaker 3: whoever the hell he's throwing to deep there, first down, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: second down you need. This is where I need my
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  Speaker 3: seventh year quarterback to step up and game you know,
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  Speaker 3: game awareness and know what they have to do to
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  Speaker 3: get that first down. So I guess all week I
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  Speaker 3: was saying, like I guess, the excuse was maybe he
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  Speaker 3: was concussed because he wasn't thinking clearly in that situation.
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  Speaker 3: If he wasn't concussed, then it is his fault for
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  Speaker 3: doing that. So I am critical. And the fact of
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  Speaker 3: you know, you have to have the game awareness to
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  Speaker 3: get to the sticks, to run out that clock, to
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  Speaker 3: get into overtime and see where it goes, and you
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  Speaker 3: know you're gonna need I'm gonna need a lot more
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  Speaker 3: of that this season. It's the only gonna be the
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  Speaker 3: only way we survived. This team isn't gonna lift you
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  Speaker 3: up as much as it has in previous years. So
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  Speaker 3: you have to be the guy to do that. You
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  Speaker 3: have to call the audible up the line, you have
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  Speaker 3: to tuck it and do whatever. You know, his miraculous
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  Speaker 3: third down runs he always does let's see let's see
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  Speaker 3: that again. And you know, so I'm critical in the
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  Speaker 3: fact of it's got to be he's got to do more.
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  Speaker 3: We've been asking him no more. Now he has to
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  Speaker 3: do more. And he doesn't have to be all game.
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  Speaker 3: But in game situations, you can't go nine for thirty
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  Speaker 3: when you're punting seven out of eight possessions. You've got
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  Speaker 3: to find a way to get a first down and
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  Speaker 3: will your team back into it because they obviously follow you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And one of the problems that I had with
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  Speaker 2: the with the entire sequence, I had many problems with it,
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  Speaker 2: but one of the problems that I had was that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, even on that second down that you're talking about,
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  Speaker 2: I would have preferred what I said was, I would
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  Speaker 2: have preferred to run the ball three times. I understand.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: I've said it on Twitter, you know what I mean.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying that the clock and stuff
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: like that. The only difference is that they have zero timeouts.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: So because of that, I think that they needed almost
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: every second that they had.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: To to get back into.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Range, and that included a Robert Woods you know good
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: you know pup return. So yeah, because of that, like
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: I would have just ran the ball and tried to
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: find a way to make them use their timeouts. And
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: everybody completely negates, or at least on Twitter space, they
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: completely negate the fact that you could possibly get a
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: first down, Like it's not just you know, sign sealed
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: delivered that you don't get one.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: So I would have liked to see the run.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: The problem with the pass on second down is that
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: because Kean Coleman, as we both know, made a great
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: play on that first play, that's a that's a pass interference.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: The only reason that Houston declines is because it's that
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: we're backed up, so they just want the game to
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: be over with and and and us to lose a down.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: The problem is that I thought that there were open
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: options with with Kincaid and and Coleman on underneath routes
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: where I do need them to think. Now, I'm not
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: gonna make this whole episode about was Josh Allen concustomed
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: what the case may be. My thing is that his nature,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: even concussion or not, his nature is aggressive and he
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: likes to be aggressive and stuff like that. You have to,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: you know, one of the greatest things about Brian Dabele
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: was that he was able to rain in that that
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: stallion a little bit and have him, you know, see
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: the game from a different perspective.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: There was that that.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Turning point was that New England game where he throws
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: all those picks and then he finally starts to listen
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: to Dable and really take in his teaching about, you know,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: not not trying to go for the shot play every
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: single play because it always isn't going to be worth
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: it and beneficial to the team. I need him to
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: have some type of situation awareness or I need Brady
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: to help insulate him in those situations where you're absolutely right,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: DT just get the first down because of the fact
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: that you can take it to overtime and then let
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: the chips fall where they may because we could win
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: the toss.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: We could lose.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: The toss of coin has two sides to it. But
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I was really frustrated when I saw the All twenty
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: two and saw that there were options. It wasn't just
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: you know that only option was was a chuck it
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: downfield of mac Collins, which is a horrible idea within itself.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: But the fact that you had some underneath stuff and
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: that's the type of stuff where don't tell me all
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: summer that Josh Allen is the elevator man and stuff
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: like that, and he's gonna raise, you know, tide raises
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: all boats. High tide raises all boats, and Mike, he's
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: making decisions like that.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Again, I'm not railing on him or anything like that.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if he was concussed or not,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: but I do know that his nature anyway is an
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: altered aggressive nature, and I need maybe the coordinator to
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: help him rain himself in a little bit. They do
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: have a chance to talk. Dt They've got a chance
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: to talk for up to fifteen seconds left in the clock. Hey, Josh,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: listen seventeen. I need you to be looking. I've got this,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: this and this for you already baked into this play.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Make sure we're looking at eighty six. Make sure we're
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: looking at zero on this one, because again we're just
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: trying to move the chains and then we're going to
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: get this thing into overtime and recalibrate.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I just I thought that they were poor decisions.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: And again I don't even want to get on Sean McDermott,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: but I just, strictly seventeen, I thought that they were
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: some decisions where I need him to be either a
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: better decision maker or I need the people that call
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: the plays, chiefly, you know, Joe Brady, to kind of
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: insulate a little bit.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: And I just didn't see that at all.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: It almost seemed, especially with Joe Brady's comments the next day,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: it seemed like he really wasn't apologetic about it, Like,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: you know what we called the plays that we called,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: and then him and Sean McDermott were kind of saying
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: different singing different tunes, and it was just a whole
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: weird vibe for the first couple of days of Star.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: So if you're calling those plays and that's where one
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: seven eats to make the changes and get it done,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's almost an analogy of like you know,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: drowning and the doc is right there, right. All you
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: got to do is grab on the dock and pull
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: yourself up and we continue to kick our feet and
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: you know, splash around in the water and the docks
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: right there, right, So it's got to be better. I
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: think one seven knows that, you know, hopefully, you know,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be a long year if he doesn't. Nine
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: for thirty is embarrassing. He knows that, you know, literally
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: and the leading MVP candidate and then probably to some
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: of the worst games of his career back to back.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: So this it's it's he's proven he's been teachable, uh
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: in his career, but this is teaching almost himself. You know,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: it's not the coach teaching him something. It's it's him
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: teaching himself, like, Okay, this is my gig, this is
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: my Cadillac. I need to drive it, you know this,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: So it I'm not completely worried. I think they're that
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: hand injury does have a lot to do with it.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I think he's obviously been beaten up the last two
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: weeks after not getting touched, you know, basically the first
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: the week, two and three, he's gotten peppered for two
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: weeks in a row. So he's banged up, he's hurting.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: You know, who knows what actually is you know what
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: what hurts on him? And maybe he was just trying
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: to because it was so bad, he was trying to like, Okay,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: I can do it. Shot play here and we score
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: a nine yard touchdown and win the game, and it
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: raises everything.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Right, that's not how the game had been going.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: That And that's old sugar high ish y gosh, you
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: know type of vibe. So did it last year in
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: the opening game against the Jets, played five hundred with
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: the defense and and and owned it and then came
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: back and regrouped and got it done. So completely confident
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: in one seven by all means. But it's okay to
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: hold him accountable for that nine out of thirty at
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: one point. You know, that's on you, bro, Like that's
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: that's on you.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, I agree with that. And and before
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: we transition, you know, to the to the money and
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: night football, I just I have to get this off
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: my chest because I've had you know, some some spirited
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Twitter debates and battles and spaces and stuff like that
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: this past week.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that I have a
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: problem with saw McDermott is that.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: You know, he's always What's the way that I want
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: to put this that if he's the CEO, okay, and
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: he's the boss, that means that he's Bobby's boss, and
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: that means that he's Joe's boss. One of the things
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: that that made me start to look at him differently,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and I'll be honest, I'll raise my hand and cop
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: to it that I have never liked him since thirteen seconds. Now.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I know that all Bill's fans are not that way.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I know that all Bill's Mafia doesn't, you know, share
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: in that sentiment. However, I started to look at him
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: sideways after thirteen seconds because it was such a glorious
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: blunder that I just was never able to forgive him.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Because the nightmare in the back of my head is
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: that thirteen seconds was our best chance. Obviously, nobody in
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Bill's Mafia wants it to be. I don't want it
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: to be. We hope that Josh is very fruitful, and
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: we have multiple lombardies that we could tell our kids about. However, however,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: the problem with thirteen seconds for me was that I
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: didn't care dt if Leslie Fraser called that dumbass defense.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: It was up to him, Sean McDermott, the CEO that's
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Leslie's boss, to step in and say, hey, this is
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: not going to work or I don't like the way
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: that this looks. We're gonna do you know X y Z.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: And what I got met with DT on Twitter in
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: different spaces was that you know, well, no, Sean is
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: more of a he's more of a delegator, and he's
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: not gonna do that, and he empowers his coaches.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: You know what f that? Man, I'm sorry, that was
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: thirteen seconds.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: That's a chance to go ahead and host the AFC
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Championship game at home against the Bengals the next week,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and who knows how history writes itself after that point
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: in time. So that's not good enough for me on Sunday.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: It's not good enough that Joe well, Joe Brady's the
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator and he would never do that and he's
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: not on that side of the ball. Listen, man, if
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: you know that something doesn't sound right, you know the
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: players they're getting ready to call, whether you know offense
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: or not, whether you're a defensive coach or not.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I just did.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I don't like when there's situations where he can step
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: up and be a CEO, be the I'm the boss,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I'm running this shit, and just say, you know, I
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: don't really let you know he hears the play call
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: and no, no, we don't need to be going bet
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: like I don't like I don't like that idea. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: don't want to pop shot to Mac Collins on second down,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Or what in the case now,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: To be fair, maybe Joe Brady did tell Josh to look.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Down and look for the checkdowns and he just didn't.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: And we have experienced that with Josh over the years
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: that sometimes he just.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Doesn't take the easy stuff. So I would be fair
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: in that in that regard.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: But you know, I just needed my coach to step
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: up and kind of take control of the situation. That's
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I think that that's what I'm really looking forward. And
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: again that's why I started the episode of the way
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: that I did, because it reminded me of thirteen seconds.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Reminded me of the past where I've got this coach
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: who is supposedly in charge of everything, and then he's
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: going to stand up at the podium at the end
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: of the game and tell me that it's all on me. Well,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: then if it's all on you, act like it in
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the moment, And I just thought like that was just
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: weak in that moment because of the fact that I
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: don't know, man, just right, even if you run the
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: ball one time on first down and then decide to
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: take some shots or something, I don't know, just to
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: lose you some clock, I don't because who knows you
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: might break it off for six yards.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Who knows what the situation is. I just I don't know.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: There's just something that doesn't sit right with me because
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I've I've seen it too many times in late game
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: situations with this coach.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: He just makes the wrong decisions.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: There's a little hypocrisy with that, right because you know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: being critical damned if you do on both sides. There
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: being critical of Sean McDermott over the years. That tied
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: on article last year was that he wasn't open. You know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: he wasn't delegating. It was his way or the highway.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: He was old school. It was you know, everything has
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: to be This is the Sean McDermott show. This is
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: built the culture I'm building. It goes my way, Everything
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: goes through me. So I you know. I I don't
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: think that he was like, you know, he maybe hide
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: behind it or whatever the case may be, to say like, oh,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I delegated it to my coordinators. It was what it was.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: But that's so you I'm McDermott there. That's where I'm
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: having the problem with one seven. I think one seven
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: has to be the CEO in that situation and take
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: control of the game out there on the field with
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: whatever's calling when he has the ball in those situations.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: But I definitely agree, I don't think by any means,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: you know, he is a delegating type coach. It seems
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: like the people that he's kind of an almost too
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: hard ass, too much of a dick, and the fact
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: of it's got to go through me for it to work.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: And so I don't, you.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Know, that's not here anymore. That's why not here anymore.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: If escape go to blame it, like, oh, I trust
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: the offense. I trust what Joe Brady called, like it
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: paanned to Sean McDermott on the sideline, and I don't
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: know if he was yelling at Brady or if he
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: was yelling.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: At so we just need to get the first down,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: first down, Yeah, get the first down?
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: What are we doing here? So you know he knew
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: the game situation was it Brady was one seven? Who knows,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: But I don't think it was a You can argue that,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: oh he's delegating to his coordinators. I think that's bushy.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: That's not true at all. He controls this this team
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: from top to box.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and and you know, thank you know,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: and thank you for giving me a little bit of validation.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: But again bringing me back to square one, because I
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: do think that a lot of it does lay our
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: feet of our quarterback, and I think that that just
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: makes Bills bo fieuncomfortable in general.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: That's all. We love him. You know, he's on the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: cover of MAT and all this other stuff. Our kids.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: You know, we got buy all these jerseys for the
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: kids and stuff like that, and grown men were in
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: his jerseys. But you know, it's just a situation where
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: when he plays like this, it's hard to it's hard
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: to swallow because we expect so much more of them
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and he has.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: He has really raised that bar.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Now, as we transition tonight, over five hundred people DT
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• 24:53
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• 24:54
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• 24:59
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  Speaker 2: As we transition, you know, you lick your wounds and
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: you know, you mean, you just kind of figure it
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: out and you're trying to come up with answers, and
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that's kind of what the week works like. Then, you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: it's funny because I'm sitting at work and then I'm
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: you know, on ESPN, and I'm always on the ESPN
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: at work and I'm checking out NFL and I refresh,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: and all.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Of a sudden, I see that, you know, red breaking
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: news and I'm like, oh shit, they fired Salah And
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I was like, his defense is like one of the
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: best defenses in the league. His defenses have been one
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: of the best defenses in the lead the entire ten
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: year he's been there. And I'm like, man, that dude,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is something else. Man Like, I'm like, that
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: dude is a cock. Like that dude is he is
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: something else? Doesn't talk to us. I mean, I don't
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: care about personal life, but it just kind of sometimes
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: tells you a little bit about him man, or tells
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: you something about his character. Doesn't talk with his family,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: has a horrible relationship. I saw his brother on college
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: football on Saturday. I know that they don't talk at all.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: That's long been documented. I know he doesn't talk to
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: his family or something like that. He's always going to
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: running through women and stuff like that. And I'm like, man,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: this dude is shady as hell. And it was funny
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: because the Jets, now I don't really know what to think.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Todd Downing gets promoted to play caller yesterday, so he
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: had some ineffective offenses in Tennessee. So I don't know
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: really what that's gonna do, but I know Aaron Rodgers
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: wasn't gonna let Nathaniel Hackett get fired because that's his boy,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: and like he's running shit over there. At one Jets drive,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: DT talked to me about the coaches bump, because I
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: know that it's a real thing, and I know a
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: lot of times when coaches get fired, the players play
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: more inspired and stuff like that. Now, I think he
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: turns out that they played it and it was like
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: sixteen and thirteen or something, so it's like right around
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: five hundred for a win immediately after your coach is fired.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: But I do think that they'll play inspired football on
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Monday Night. It's just interesting because it seems like this
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: is a team in turmoil right now. Everyone they don't
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: know which way is up, and I just I cannot
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I am having a hard time, you know, envisioning the
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: fact that the Bills could lose and I and I
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: know we'll get to the injuries and here in a moment,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: but man, I just can't picture us going to the
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Medal Lands with this team all in a cluster, you
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: know what, and losing.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I just I just don't see it. Man. I'm sorry, man,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: this team is they're reeling right now for sure, all right.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: P Robert Salad, I mean that was that was.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: James coming out on McAfee.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Going, you know, it's not just the it's not just
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: the business. This man's got a family and they talking.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: About the seven kids. Said his son, yeah, said his
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: son was growing.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: You know, this dude never had a quarterback and defense
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: was always top tier. He never had a quarterback until
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: this year. And they're you know, they're two and three, okay, uh,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: but they're one game if they beat the Bills on Monday,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: they're leading the AFC East, you know, with the schedule
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: ahead of them. So this wasn't a this wasn't a
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: mid mid season decision. What's the Jets owner? What he uh?
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: What's his name? What? You didn't even play in the
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: middle of the season. You didn't even Adam Gase in
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: the middle of the season. That was one of the
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: worst teams of all time there, you know with that
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: so uh, Aaron Rodgers got his handprints all over this.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I love him feeding into that villain. Uh, you know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: persona and saying he's not and then wondering why everybody
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: talks about him. But the reality of it is, you know, yeah,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: the bump whatever, I'm I'm.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Like sixteen and thirteen.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Last year, the Bills went and played the Chargers
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: the game after they fired their coach. Right, it was
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: a tough.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Game, but we had to do everything with that game.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if it was from the coaches
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: bump or whatever the BS is, but Vegas gets uh,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Antonio Pierce and they like they the brakes off somebody. Uh, well,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: I think it was the Chargers to get their coach.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had like seventy points or whatever it was,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: or sixty points, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: And then that got their coach fired. Then the Bills
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: played the Chargers and barely snuck through. So I'm not
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: buinding any of that hype. It's the NFL, it's the
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: big leagues. This is for first place in the division.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: So screw screw a coach bump. If we're if we're
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: moving to second the division. For a coach bump where
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: we're not, we don't deserve to be at first, you know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: screw that, right, So the I I didn't think Robert
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Salad was great, but I don't think he's to be
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: fired in this it is. Yeah, the fact of it
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: is the Jets defense is good. They always will be,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: you know, with this corps in there. Aaron Rodgers is
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: is old. Man is old. He's he's showing it. He
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: can still make throws. Uh. But London, you know, was
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: a was a tough look for him. He got beat up,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: he got bruised brown, and he's not gonna be able
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: to be as mobile as he needs to be, I
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: think to beat this team. So I agree, screw this
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: coach bump. And if you're the Buffalo Bills, you can't
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: look at anything like that. This is a division game.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: That is I hate saying must win this early in
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: the season, but.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I know that's what it was.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: And it raised these last two weeks, you know, and
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: move forward and put this coach bump thing to rest.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: That's bullshit.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: It's funny because no, I mean, I don't think that
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: he was a great coach or anything like that, but
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I do think that, you know, it was just he
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: just didn't get a fair shake in respects to the
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: fact that he didn't get have you know, a quarterback.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: But you know, if you have the record that he had,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: then obviously it's never going to be a situation where
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: you should feel too confident in your job security for sure.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Twenty and thirty two whatever he was now, you.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Know, as we transition when respects to these injuries DT,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: you know, it's it's concerning, to be completely honest, it
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: is concerning, and I think it's more concerning, Like what
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I talked about earlier in the show of DT is
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: that it seems like Khalil Shakir means a ship ton
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to this offense. And if that's the case, I don't
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: even know if he's going to be out there. I
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: don't know if he's going to you know, I don't
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: even know if he's going to be healthy. What happened
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: in the Baltimore game when he tried to come back
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: is that you know.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: He he didn't really look that great, you know what
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, and in a.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Situation where he was logging around and trying to gut
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: through it. But other than that long touchdown, which was
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: a broken play to Shakir, it really didn't work out
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: that way that well for him, you know, in that
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: spot duty. So he's been banged up. We felt we
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: felt it last week on the offensive side of the football.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: DT.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to think of this in respects
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: to this, but you look down this injury report, we'll
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: take We'll go with the positives first.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: The positive is that.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: You know Josh Allen, officially, the NFL PA in the
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: NFL come out with a joint statement which does not
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: scream cover up at all, does not, I mean, And
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: that's fine. I'm I know I'm being a cynic into
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: the case may be, but I like literally argued with
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: so many people on Twitter would tell me he hurt
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: his chest or he heard his acre, and I'm like,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: they don't give uf smelling saaltce for fucking hurting your ankle,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know what else to tell you. Guys
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: like his head bounced like a basketball, like okay, and
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: then everybody's reminding everybody.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: That they're not doctor.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: So I get it, no problem, Josh Allen is officially healthy.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: So take that for whatever you want to take it.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Bernard came back last week, played great, obviously, had that
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: interception as you as you called.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Uh luck. I thought it was a little bit of
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: luck plus some it's a really good, a great player.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Yes, but you know, if that plays nine out of
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: ten times, he's probably you know, probably not making that pick.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, Okay, we'll go with that now. Dade Jones,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: our boy friend Penn state he'll be back this week.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: It looks like he was a full participant once again.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: And then Javon Solomon, which will need on that edge.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: He's gonna be in there. Obviously at Oliver excuse me,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: obviously von Miller is still suspended, so we need Javon
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Solomon to be back out there. And then it's just unfortunate.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Dt looks like at Oliver's gonna miss. He hasn't practiced
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: all week. James Cook's gonna miss. He hasn't practiced all week,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: it looks like. And it's a situation where Shakir hasn't
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: practiced all week. So you know, we have some positives
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: where we're getting a little bit healthier, but not everybody.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: And it seems like if Shakier is gonna mean this
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: much to the offense, then my question is, what are
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: the answers for the best defense in the league, Number
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: one against the past?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: How are you going to stop them? On on Monday?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Night because they're gonna I mean, the blueprints out now
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: on on the bills, the blueprints out. That's why I
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: want DeVonta Adams And I know we'll talk about trades
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: to end the show, but the blueprints out. Press them up,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: get up on these guys, bump them, get in their faces,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: play man coverage and and go ahead and forget this
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: too high safety show. We'll play one high and and
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: forcenate to beat us, we'll play you. We'll force you
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: to beat us on the outside.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Period.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if they can, if they're capable,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: and that's the only reason why I think they could
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: possibly lose this game.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if the receivers are capable.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Well, it's like the Fountain of Youth. You you got
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: to sacrifice something to get something out of it, right,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: And we're getting our defensive side of the ball back
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: out of injury. But now our offense is sacrificing and
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: going in and that's what's looked like is needed the
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: most help.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of trending in the wrong direction when
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: it comes to that. But Nicol City Crew Mafia, let's
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: let's let's breathe for a second. Remember we got a
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Monday night game. Okay, so we're a day we're day late,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: we're daylight on everything. This is a Friday. The Friday
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: practice is tomorrow, okay, So you know, I'm not if
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: you if you're a fancy football player and you're looking
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: around who's playing, who's not playing? A Friday practice means
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: a lot for the game. Right if we get a
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: limited or you know, something going on in Friday practice,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: you got a lot more enthusiasm and optimism for playing
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: on Sunday. Friday practice is tomorrow on Saturday. Okay, So
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: we're gonna if if this is still the same tomorrow,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: then okay, then I'm gonna start being worried about James Cook.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna start being worried about Khalilshakir at Albert kind
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: of seems like he might not be there. But Khalilshakir
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: the beginning of the week, McDermot said he was progressing decently.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: This might be something where we're just gonna keep you
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: off it as much as possible, and you know, so
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: you you will be ready to go on Monday night.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: So I'm I'm gonna wait till tomorrow I'm gonna wait
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: till Saturday, see this injury report and then make make
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: my kind of concerns from there. James Cook being out
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: is you know without glo, sar, James Cook is literally
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: our only offensive.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: We Yeah, you know, so that's uh, that's a tough
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: thing to see, just so young, you know.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: But you know, in in in this date, something to
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: go to. I mean, you ran the ball twenty times
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: on Sunday. I think Ray Davis could be good. I
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: think Ty Johnson has answered the bell when he's been
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: called upon with it this year, you know, receiving and rushing.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: So it's not end of the world. I don't think
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: if James Cook's not in there, but it is discouraging.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I am confident will be in. I really Trail Bernard
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: was a huge comeback last week being on the field.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: We wouldn't have been in that game without him.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: And Terry Johns looking good. Yeah, Terreon Johnson's looking good
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: this week. You're gonna be huge to get back.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you know, I'm not.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I'm not worried till tomorrow.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we'll see, I mean, it'll be interesting.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Taron Johnson is definitely gonna be a big boost between
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: him and Bernard. That'll be obviously great to have the
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: two of them back together when obviously Dorian Williams is
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: running around with his hair on fire. You know, it'll
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: be interesting to see because you know, I just the
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: injuries just never stopped. And you know, I had talked
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: about it before, like when are we gonna be whole?
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: And I'm sick of the excuses and all this different
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: type of stuff. So like, I'm just trying to make
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: sure that we can never find a way to have
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: our whole team to I understand it's the NFL.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I understand that that's not realistic.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Everybody's dealing with injuries, but it just sucks where it
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: always just seems to be something going on and I
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: just want to see the offense and the defense hole
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: and it just seems like we can't get there.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: So we'll see Ed.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Oliver will probably be out this week though, and then hopefully,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: like you said, we can get Taron Johnson back.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: That'll be uh, that'll be a big deal if we can.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Now as we transition DT, you know, when you look
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: at this matchup, I had already spoke about it, but
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: you know, the defense is so good for them that
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I think that it can cause problems. I'm wondering who
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: you think would be the person to step up. I
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: know that you said that James Cook if he's out,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: let's assume that. Let's assume that James Cook is out.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: We'll assume that Khalil Secure plays. Am I just going
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: to be proven you know wrong, that that Shakir is
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the He is the cog. He is the proverbial straw
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: that makes this entire offense. I mean, two weeks we
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: look like shit. He comes back and it just it's
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: like a light switch, it just flips back on. If
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: it does that, great And I'll be the first person
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: to cheer this out song every touchdown we get. I
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: just I think it's a tall task. And I think
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: that everybody keeps talking about Shakir and not that he's
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: not a great player or a good player, good the
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: great player. My thing is that one player shouldn't make
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: that much of a difference in respects to the offensive
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: efficiency when supposedly it's everyone. Everybody eats, and it just
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, It's just something just doesn't add up.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Where has Curtis Samuel still like I still haven't like,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: what what are we doing?
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Well, well, you said it. I mean the if he
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: comes back and it is a light switch flipped, it'll
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: be great. We'll take the dub whatever, but not long jevity.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: It's not longevity. That's not the true answer. It's not
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Koliol Shakir. Being inner out of the lineup is the
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: detriment of if we win or lose a game. It
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: can't be and I don't believe it will be. But
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: if he comes back, it's obviously going to help us.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: You said it right there. The two major things Curtis Samuel,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Dalton k K where you know, if everybody eats, these
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: dudes have to start getting going. Curtis sam if he's hurt,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: then get him out of there.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I don't want him.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: I don't want him in the in the game catching
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: one yard screen passes for six targets for no game.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: For the first time the lineup.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: We don't need to pretend he's not hurt and do
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: this bullshit with him.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Everybody.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: That's starting to really piss me off, Like you look
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: at you look at all these Curtis Samuel highlights in Carolina,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: in Washington, he's catching bombs down the middle of the field,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: get him past five yards for us. So if he's hurt,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: get him off the field. And if he's not hurt,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: let's stop doing what or doing with him? Dalton Kaid
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: gotta be better, got it?
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: I get that teams are keen on him whatnot. But
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: if you're gonna be you know, Dalton Kinkaid is a receiver.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: James Cooks a receiver.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Nothing like nightmare, matchupmare. Yeah, I don't know.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: We talk about layups all the time, giving people layups.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: And I said it earlier in the show. If one
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: seven and gets unstoppable, it's because he has tempo and
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: and he's in a rhythm. And what what a better
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: way getting a rhythm then hitting your tight end over
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: and over the middle for fifteen yards of pop? Right,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: So it's kin kid, it's Samuel. I need, we need.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: I would like Secur to come back. I think Kean
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Coleman is breaking into himself. He will start being more
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: and more of a weapon as things go by, and
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: he's as years go by, to be honest, but curtis Samuel,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: if he's hurt, get him out, let's see, let's see shavers,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: let's see kJ Hammler, let's see somebody not if he's
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: hurt or start, and then we need Kinkaid to start
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: giving one to seven layoffs to get in a temple.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that I think you're absolutely right,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: and I think just a lot. I think a lot
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: falls on Joe Brady's plate. And again he doesn't pull
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: the trigger. So I am I am keeping that in
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the back of my mind, that he doesn't pull the
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: trigger itself. But I do need you know, whatever, whatever
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: he's got cooked up, whatever he's got for answers.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I need all your answers right now.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: This is for the division in respects for an early
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: season game matchup on the road against Arrival, that they
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: think that they could be just as good as you.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: The record says that they are just as good as you,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: damn near. So I think I need you know whatever
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: you've got. If you got any tricks in your bag,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: pull them out. Not trick plays because we know that
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: you suck at those, but tricks. You got any tricks
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: in your bag, I need you to pull them out
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: because you know the way that they're using Samuel is
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: unacceptable quite honestly to me. Before the highest paper receiver
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: on the team. I understand eight million dollars is not
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of money. I get it, but it's unacceptable
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: the way that they're using him.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. It's just funny how they're using him.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: And like you just talked about the Carolina An, any
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: highlights you see, even from Washington Day's, this is not
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: how he was used. I understand that he can run
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: the ball. He's a former running back Ohio State UTU.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I know all that shit.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I know my college football as well, but man, this
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: is not the NFL version of Curtis Samuel that we've
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: seen at all. And it's almost like there's a mandate
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: not to throw him anything but bubble screens, and now
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: everybody is king on them. Houston saw them coming a
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: mile away. They weren't doing shit with them. He catches
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: one ball for negative yards or whatever it was, and
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: all those targets, it was just a it's been horrible.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: It's been a little bit almost criminal what they've been
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: doing to him. So I need Joe Brady to get
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: his shit together as well now as we transition and
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: DT before we begin to wrap up tonight and get
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: them Tailgate report. You know, I know that the buzz
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: that I in the circles that I roll with. I
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: don't know about your text groups, but in the circles
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: that I roll with, especially on Twitter, shout out to
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: my Twitter crew out there. They do like a little
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: space like this, but it's all audio, so they can
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: you can hop in and and just kind of speak,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: speak your mind and stuff like that. And boy, DT,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: the Bills Maffi in there, the guys that I roll
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: with in there were unanimous with me that Brandon Bean
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: has to do something.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: And that's the.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Reason that I named the episode that the way that
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I did DT, and you always know that there's a
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: meeting behind the reasons why I named these episodes. But
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: in my mind, DT, and I told all of them
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: in that space that do not hold your breath because
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: of the fact that Brandon Bean, I feel like, tried
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: to tell us. Sean McDermott, to a certain lesser extent,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: tried to tell us when they traded Stefan Diggs, what
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: was your first reaction, DT, Don't worry, I'll tell you
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: for yourself. You said, Brandon Bean's got something up his sleeve,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: and I said, okay, he better then nothing. Happened in
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: a DT or no straight replacement for fourteen. So in
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: my mind, I told everybody to not hold their breath
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: because the reason being is that Brandon b wanted to
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: reset this cap. That's why it takes on sixty one
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: million dollars, thirty one of which was four fourteen, just
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: to get him out of the building. We're not going
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: to rehash all that type of stuff. We're done with
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: that now. However, because of the fact that he chose
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: to do that this year, I think DT.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: This is my opinion, and I'm firming it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I believe now at this point in time that he
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: just wants to ride it out because of the fact
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: that he's already made that decision. And you know what,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: this is what I said I was gonna do, and
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna do it. And we got to swallow
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: this medicine right now because it's going to be for
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: the greater good of the future Buffalo Bills. My main problem,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: my number one problem with that whole theory from the
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: beginning from trading fourteen to not replacing him, is that
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I don't want to waste Josh Allen's prime years. I
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: said it in the off season you've said it before.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think that these are the type of years
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: that we should be wasting because of the fact that
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: we don't know when we're going to get back again.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I raise my hand.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: I am dealing in a sense from a sense of fear,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: because again, thirteen seconds is in the back of my mind,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: and I constantly daily think about when I think about
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: the Bills, that that could have been our best chance.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: That's my personal Halloween nightmare is that eight thirteen seconds
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: was our best chance. So throwing away one of his
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: prime years is not on the cards for me. It's
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: not on the menu for me. I don't agree with
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: it at all.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: DT.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: These guys were going crazy saying trade for Adams or
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: trade for Cooper, trade somebody said fucking trade for both,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: which obviously would never have it. Trade for somebody or
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: an established receiver, or they're done with the season because
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Brandon Bean is obviously saying that he doesn't care and
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: he's ready to punt on the year. I told them
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: not hold their breath. I would love DeVonta Adams of
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: being a Bill's uniform.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: DT.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I am not holding my breath, and as one of
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: my best friends, I refuse to let you hold your
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: fucking breath either, don't hold your breath? Et what do
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: you think about what do you think about the bills
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: that Brandon bean? Right now, all.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Champions are judged not how they how they hit, how
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: they how they react when they get hit, and how
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: they get back up. Right, So in this case, yes,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I was wrong in the fact that he had the
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: ace ofist sleeve and he was just gonna be rolling
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: with this. You were, You were correct in that in
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: that regard, But if you're making decision to roll with this,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: then that has to be brought into the team in
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: a phase, right like, Okay, we are rolling with this,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Let's see how it works. The past two weeks. It
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: hasn't worked. So now we need a game plan and
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: work in personnel or whatever we have to do to
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: make what we have work. You know, you can't just
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: a different result. If this is what they're rolling with,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: we need to change up the game plan to make
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: this as successful as it can be. It wasn't. We
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: didn't know it wasn't gonna work until these last two games. True, Okay,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: now we do. Let's see if we can change up
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: the game. Pan, Let's see if we get some different
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: personnel in there, if kJ Hammler and Shavers get get
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: their shot, and then if if we start seeing that,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: then I think, okay, then this team is looking for
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: something else. And then the probability of a trade is
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: a lot more, could could be more, you know, available
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: than you want.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Them to exhaust all effort. You want them to exhaust
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: all efforts.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: There's things with that. One, the plan was to reset
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: the cap, so bringing somebody in is gonna negate that.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: And two the pride of we let Stephan Diggs walk
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: and then we just go get another Stephan Diggs after
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, you know, So like I don't
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: I think that's the last thing. That's what w g
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: I was saying, the thing and McDermott want to do.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: But why how can you let your pride get in
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: the way of seventeen's prime years?
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: That's the only thing I now I understand that point.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: And I've heard it on w g R this week
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: that that that that that's just too much of a pivot,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: that they're not going to want to pivot after they
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: just tried to sell everybody eats all summer. I understand
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: the premise of the point. My thing is that how
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: could you turn your back on seventeen this? This is bullsit.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: So if you are going to follow the pride, I
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: don't want to see it in the fact of I'm
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: not just trading for Devanta Adams. I want to see
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: it in the fact of game planning different, getting different
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: personnel in there, seeing different guys, seeing different looks. Okay,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: what can we make this work with? And that's what
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: I think that you know, if you are gonna stick
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: with this, then it has to be on that side
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: of things, and I will be if it works. Obviously
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: I'm with it, but I would be a lot more
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: respectful of it if they start changing game plans up
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: to see, this is what we got, so we need
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: to find a way to make what we have work.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm taking DeVante Adams rob Okay, I just
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: don't think they're gonna do it. I don't think.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think I don't, but.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: But I do need if they don't do it, I
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: do need to see them changing things up in that
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: in that regard of changing the game plan, changing things around,
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: getting different looks, to get one seven in a rhythm,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: to get going, because you know it's it's then it
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: becomes completely unacceptable. You're wasting a year, you're doing all
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: that bullshit whatever you want to get into. But I
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: think they're gonna You're gonna see a difference in the
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: team before you see the trade, like a difference in
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: the way they play right now before you see the trade.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying, that you want them to
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: exhaust all efforts, or you expect them to try to
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: exhaust all the others. I think they move them to
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: exhaust all efforts. They moved the trade deadline back, so
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I think it's like right around Halloween.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: So you know, but if we're talking specifically DeVante Adams,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: it doesn't sound like we got to Halloween. Sounds like
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: this ship's going down soon.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Soon, Yeah, somebody.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: I think one of his former teammates set on k
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Adams show, like he said of weeks not days.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know that.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: In that case, get them, get them here tonight so
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: we can play Monday.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Well that could have been on too, And that's what
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: the guys in the States are saying up to it,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: like they wanted they want to bring the bean on
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: the phone, you know, Monday, first thing Monday, and you know,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: and we don't know if he wasn't on the phone.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: So I'll be fair in that in that regard the
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: thing that I just wanted to warn them. And I guess,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't have to warn you because you
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: don't expect I just don't.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I just don't see it.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: And and and I don't think I don't agree with
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: the pride thing, but I do think that that could
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: be a big part of it, not only not just
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: necessarily pride, but also just like just like this is
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: our fucking plan and we're gonna you know what I mean,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Like this is on Joe Brady to figure out, if
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: this is on Josh Allen to figure out, like we said,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: we're gonna do this. We got him, you know, quote
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: unquote weapons, We got him a whole bunch of you know,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Swiss army knife guys. What are the case may be
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: or guys that could do different things. Let's let's figure
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: this out. If we got to put Kean Coleman in
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: the slot, put him in the slot. Everybody coming out
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: of the draft set that he was better fit out
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: of the slot. I heard Steve Steve Smith make a
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: great point I reposted on Twitter this week about how
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: he really needs to be in the slot to go
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: up against slower linebackers and smaller DB's and that could
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: really unlock him. So fine, do whatever, stop you know,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: throwing bubble routes to Curtis Sammy, whatever you got to do,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: figure it out, Figure it out. My thing is that
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I just don't think that the Bills, necessarily and Brandon
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Bean want to admit that this ship didn't work so quickly,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: And I think that that would be a sign that
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: they know that it didn't work so quickly. I personally,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: as a fan, who all I care about is a
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Lombardi one, just one for me and my kids.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: All I care about is a Lombardi.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: So I don't care about your pride, and I definitely
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: don't want to shove one of Josh Allen's prime years
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: into a volcano. And that seems like how it's going
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: right now. Again, we don't know the rest of the season.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: DT is absolutely right. I get on the couch. He
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: talks me off the ledge almost every week every season,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: So yes, there's plenty of fucking football left.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: DT.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I know, I paid the lady at the front desk.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I just damn man like one of his prime years.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: It's just, this is not the time for experimentation.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Ship.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: If you had to get fourteen out of the building
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: for whatever reason, for the maturity of Josh, for the
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: for the betterment of the locker room, whatever reason you
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: needed to, you had to replace them once. They didn't.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I just I mean, they tried to tell us, that's
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: why made the episode of the way they did. They
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: tried to tell us, but.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: We're a bounce away. We're bouncing a play away from
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: being four and one right now, with a chance will
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: be five and one in a three game lead in
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: the division, you know. So it's not like we're olling five. Yes, right,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: So they're they're winnable games coming up. They announced Bill's
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: had a tough schedule, but they have the easiest remaining
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: schedule based on how the seasons played out so far.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: So you know that you got to look at that too,
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: and you know it's not a complete failure by any means.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Yet, but it has not got to be.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: An idiot to know that this is unsustainable.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Now as we begin to wrap up tonight.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: You know, I really appreciate you tonight, DT, in all weeks,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: just sharing your time with us. I'm here and I
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: know the fans love you as well as that night.
• 50:20
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• 50:22
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• 50:27
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• 50:29
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  Speaker 2: partnership is is starting to bear fruit. We are about
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: to have our first giveaway and I know DT is
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: really excited about it.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: DT.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: You know, for me, the game itself was it was
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: funny because my oldest two Kings, Bobby and Nate, were
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: coming back from Universal.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: So we sent them to Universal.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: For like a joint birthday party because it was Bobby's
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: birthday September. Nate's this in October, so, uh, you know,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: their mother and I sent them and they went down
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: there to Orlando, so I was at home. So they're
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: they're coming back and it's almost game time. I've got
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: a I got a brisket. Because it was Houston. So
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I had a brisket on the on the grill, smoking
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: and and Nate calls me from Bobby's phone.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Like right before kickoff, and he's like, you know, what's
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: the stream? Dad? And its net? So I said him
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: the stream and he's like, it's not working or whatever.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Now he is a true Bill's Bafia member, and I
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: know that that is my baby. I've definitely baptized him
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: with the Bafia because now as one o'clock starts to
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: get closer, he's starting to get fucking aggravated.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: And he's like he keeps calling back like that it's
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: not working.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: It's not working. I can hear his voice. I'm like,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you want me to do. I'm like,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: where's your mother? You know obviously she was driving and
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: they're driving back to Charlotte from Orlando. I'm like, where's
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: your mother, Like where's her phone? And she's yelling from
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: the driver's seat.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: It's not working. Stream's not working.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, you're about to get on
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: my nerves or whatever. I'm like, I don't know what
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: you want to say, Nate, I don't know what you
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: want to do. And then he's like, can we just FaceTime?
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: And I was like, no, no, no problem, son, no problem.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: So ironically enough so that Bobby's mad because if they're
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: using Bobby's phone and he wants to obviously game and
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: do stuff on his phone.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: On that long drive back from Orlando, I kid you not.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: I had my phone right there on the ledge next
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: to the TV, and I positioned it on the ledge
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: where it was showing on the FaceTime and and me
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: and Nate FaceTime the entire game together, and it was
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: like I was watching it with them with him, even
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: though he was in a car miles and miles away.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: So that was my tailgate before it had a little brisket,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: some mashed potatoes, and I literally was at the house
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: by myself, dolo and literally watching it with my son
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: through FaceTime because he is a Bill's fanatic like his father,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: and I've ruined his life because he's he's all in.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: And he was by one, like one o'clock. He was like, yo, dude,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: what's what the fuck is out? Like, it's not this
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: stream shit is not working. I'm like, man, I don't, okay,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: watch it with me on on FaceTime. That's that's the
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: perfect idea. So that's that's my tailgate report. Man, watch
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: the game with my son.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Shout all date right there and Bobby, Bobby gotta watch.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: There's only there's only seventeen of them.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: You're gonna watch them all.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: You gotta watch them all. So so credit Nate, they're
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: good good ship. Yeah. The the So the first giveaway,
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: we'll get into that. We'll be posting after this episode tonight,
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: So nicol City crew, check out our It'll be on Instagram,
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: we'll put it on Twitter too. We'll do the details
• 53:19
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• 53:22
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• 53:25
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• 53:29
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• 53:34
  Speaker 3: get on her Twitter. You'll see how to enter. We'll
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: announce the winner of this week's giveaway on next week's
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: show and we'll just keep doing that every it'll be
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: a week staggered, you know, for the rest of the year.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: So lock in, lock in, uh, But big tailgate report
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: for me this week, a big nailgate report. This is
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: my my squad and enterprise. I have a team of
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: of drivers, mostly retired, retired guys who you know move
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: move metal around for me. And last year, you know
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: award listener of Nickel City Crew Dad is now retired
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: and works on our driver team, Dan Dan Rugey shut up.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: So they have a beautiful piece of property up on
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Lake Ontario, nice rolling, rolling hills right on the lake,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: and he's like, let's do let's have a bills party.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: We had our first one last year and had great response,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: so we this was the week we did it again.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: I thought it would be a good game. Get that
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: fall October vibe, it was gonna be good weather. So
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: we had our our enterprise driver Bill's watch party.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. It was dope.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: It was other than the game it was. It was
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: a great time. It's a it's a little ride from
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: the city, about forty minutes up north as far as
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: you can go till you hit the water.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I was going to say in Canada, though.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Nope, nope, right on in in Lewiston area and that
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: are on that's this side. So got up there early.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: I wanted to watch some of that you know, London
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: game at nine o'clock, so I got loaded up to the
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: TV from living room Junior and that was the one
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: of the outdoor viewing areas. And they got a beautiful
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: barn that's already doone and really nice, got the tent
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  Speaker 3: set up, got the chairs set up, watched that first game,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: and then the crew started coming in. Everybody started flowing
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: in and you know, get to meet get to meet
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: everybody's wives, and they just see him outside of work.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: So it was a really cool, cool thing. Dan hosted
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  Speaker 3: great as always. The Rougies do it right up there.
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  Speaker 3: Have never had a bad time up at the lake.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: We did know what did a great barbecue, pulled pork
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: on the on the trigger. That was what we had
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  Speaker 3: to eat. We had some pizza, we had a ton
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: of snacks, drinks were flowing. It was a good time.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: The game started, it was a little rough, you know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: three points at halftime.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone was like, I don't know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But then as we went down, got some lake air
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  Speaker 3: and us came back. Was was a good end of
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: the game and everybody had a really good time. So
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: shout out shout out Noah for for a great cook
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  Speaker 3: and and having and having your family and now your
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: dad works works with us, and it was. It was
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  Speaker 3: a great time up there, so big big kudos up there.
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  Speaker 3: Was can't wait to do it again next year. It
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: gets bigger and bigger every year, and uh it was.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: It was a great time. People were talking, we were
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: shouting out Nickel City Crew extra listeners tonight, Well we're
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: at it. I I'll talk to you a little more
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: post show about this. But got a shout out some
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: new fans Nick, Nikki and Drew down in the Charlotte
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: area tonight. Uh no heard that somehow knew that, Hey,
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: somebody from Charlotte has this podcast about the bills. They
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: lived down there. Let's let's get it rolling. Uh and
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: uh they they were listening as well. So I'll talk
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: to you a little more about that post show. But
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: good to hear people on great Tailgate Report. Our creative
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: director a lit be It just texted us to give
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  Speaker 3: on Twitter, I think too. But get on get on Twitter,
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  Speaker 3: Go get your Queen City Vintage Tailgate Report. Get in
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  Speaker 3: the giveaway. We're gonna be giving this out every week.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: And uh yeah, I love the Tailgate Report, man, I
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: love it.
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  Speaker 1: Shit man, I mean that is that's hot, man. I
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  Speaker 1: like that. I love that that.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Report that way better than mine, but it was I mean,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: that's really cool man. I'm I'm really happy that you
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: guys had a great time. And again shout out to
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Noah and his dad for hosting, and we we do
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: appreciate that.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: That's what's up.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: I'm glad that you guys all got a chance to
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: get together, like you said, let your hair down and
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: the outside of work, so you get a chance to
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: just chill and relax, and that is always a good
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: feeling for sure. So I'm glad that the weather turned
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: out well as well up there for you guys. I mean,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: you know, DT, It's it's crazy. You know, we talked
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: about it earlier in this season. You know, mafia equals family,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: builds equal family, and then that's that's so so true,
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: and we just love it and love making the connections
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: and and and just the people. Every everybody that I'm
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: meeting now, I'm like, yo, let's check out Nigo City Crew.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: You know, check out Ningo City Crew.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I mean everybody that I see because
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: I've just I wear Bill shit everywhere and everybody's always
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: a Bills fan. I mean, Charlotte has so many Western
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Yorkers down here, so it's hard to turn around three
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: times without seeing somebody from Buffalo. So I get noticed
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: all the time because of my car and because of
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: the fact I'm always wearing Bill shit. So I love
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: interacting with people and letting them know about the crew.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: But your fan favorite, I know that.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: I mean people that I know that I'm down here,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: that listen like you, like they can give a damn
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: about me, like they love they love DT.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Like, man, I love that guy. Don't Truck.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: I love that guy TT listen And I'm like, Okay,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: no problem. I'm like, you know, I'm just the host
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: making all this shit go. But yeah, I mean, he's
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: the he's the he's the man, He's dump Truck. And
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: I've got to get up with del read because I've
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: got a great concept for a shirt and if they're
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: gonna be supporting the great cause, I want to help out.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: And I got a great concept for the shirt, and
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: it's now gonna have shit to do with me. It's all.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, You're the start of the show is DT.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: I love it, man, I love it would have it
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: no other way, man, dump Chuck I would have it
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: no other way.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: As we wrap up tonight, you know, I'm looking forward
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: to Monday, honestly, DT, because I just I love chances
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: to see who we are. And I think that the
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: reason that I named the episode of the way that
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: I did it is it is definitely some tongue in cheek,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: but it's also true. I think that they overall, I
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: think that they thought that they had to take a
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: It's very similar to when McDermott got here. How about
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: that everybody in Bills Mabya can relate to that. They
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: didn't think they were going to the damn playoffs that year.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: They were surprised by how do we know that they
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: were surprised by the start of the team because they
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: traded for Calvin Benjamin halfway through the years, fat ass,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And they traded for him
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: because they were like, damn, we're winning some games. We
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: might have a chance to have some momentum. They had
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: already did the shedding, they had already cut you know, Darius.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: They had already got rid of those guys. You know
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: that they didn't want on the team anymore, The malcontents,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: the Sammy Watkins, whoever they thought that they deemed didn't fit.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: They got rid of same thing with Digs, like they
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: got rid of the guys that they didn't think fit,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: and then they said, Okay, we're gonna sit here and
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: take our medicine.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: They left up on some wins, and then all of
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: a sudden they wanted to maximize and be competitive.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: I would love if they would pivot.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: If this continues to not work, especially after Sunday, and
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: pivot before the trade deadline comes up. And I just
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: I just won't hold my breath on it. Detail I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: think that's why I'm gonna I'm gonna stand on that.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I think that they are prepared to take their medicine
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: this year. I think it's a mistake. I think it's
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: a big mistake because of the fact that Josh Allen's
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: in his prime. But there's not much, obviously I can
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: do about it, So I I if it doesn't work,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I'd love to see them pivot, but I I'm just
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: not gonna hold my breath on it.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: That's all.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: Hey, let's get Monday night a chance to go four
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: and two, two games up in what's turning out to
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: be a ship division right with the next games after that,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: a Tennessee game at home at Seahawks, without at Indianapolis,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: like some winnable games coming up to where you're back
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: to the Thanksgiving break with you know, into that bye
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: week with you know, you could be four or five
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: games over five hundred at that point. So I I'm
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: I'm confident. I think you know that I'm desperate for
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: them to get right and get back, and you know,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: I think it's they're not They're not in a closed bubble.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: They see the game just like we did. They know
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: that that was unacceptable the last two week, and I
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: hope it's taken personal and you know we do something
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: about it. Monday night, eight fifteen.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I'm done with that man.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: As always, I really appreciate everybody out tonight, almost seven
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: hundred people watching on a Friday night tgif you've got
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: a thousand other things that you could be doing.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: So we really do appreciate the support.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Your support literally makes the show go because I'm gonna
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: be thinking about the bills regardless if I did the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: show or not, the same thing with DT, we'd be
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: talking about the bills. We love interacting with you also
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: definitely hit up that giveaway. We'd love to interact with
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: more of you again. Shout out like you said, DT
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: to our creative director, Olivia Andegels.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: She's a beast.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: She comes up with the best songs, she puts them perfectly,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: post them like within no time, she's prompt I'm surprised, giveaway. No,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: she's a motherfucker beast like good. She does stuff that
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: I have no idea because I'm so social media illiterate,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: So we really appreciate her. So definitely definitely check out
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: my nicol City Cruse Twitter Instagram. I guess the instagram
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: is already up. Join the giveaway, spread the word about
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: the crew. All we do here is keep it real,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: to keep a levelhead. At least DT tries to keep
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: me on the level head because I'm always ready to
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: crash out. But hook us up, show some love and
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: we'll show some love back your way with some some
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: cool merch. So again, Shout out to Queen City Vintage.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Shout out to twenty six Shirts who always helps us
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: and presents these shows. Shout out to Buffalo fan Base,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: the Official Bill's Mafia podcast network that we signo cast
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: on DT. I mean that's it man for me. Man,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: it's ready to start enjoying Friday. Man, I got Nate's
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: soccer game coming up here pretty soon, late night under
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: the lights, and I'm just gonna I'm gonna shut it
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: down for the night.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Man. Got soccer early tomorrow, morning football tomorrow. I'm getting
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: ready to just just creit cruise control in a minute. Man.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: So enjoy your night, man, enjoy your weekend.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Nickel City crew, have a great weekend. I'm I'm
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: pumped up now. We aren't samed to be Bills fans anymore.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: The drought's over. We're not ashamed to be Bills fans anymore.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: Pumped up for game days. I'm pumping Monday. Let's watch.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: Let's watch everything play out all weekend. No stress Monday night,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: get it done for until.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Go Bill, please out there, spread love nod. Hey, these
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: are my bills, start said out loud. Hit him with
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: the go bills one more time, DT, Go Bill, Go Bill.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: I love it, Love it.