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Christy Levy and Gary Temple Bodley · Postcards to the Universe

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa Capria. Do
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  Speaker 1: you believe in magic? What if you were told that
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  Speaker 1: all you had to do was get a little creative
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  Speaker 1: imagine into your life. Here on Postcards to the Universe,
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  Speaker 1: we will share manifesting tips, postcards, creativity, abundance, and prosperity.
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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Melissa Capria.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everybody, and welcome to Postcards to the Universe with
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  Speaker 2: Melissa creating the life you crave.
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  Speaker 3: How is everybody doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so happy it's Wednesday. It's actually my birthday week
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  Speaker 2: this week. My birthday is on Friday, so I'm really
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  Speaker 2: excited about today's show. I have a really interesting to
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  Speaker 2: guys that are joining me, Christy Levy and Gary Temple Bodley,
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  Speaker 2: and they are channelers.
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  Speaker 3: And they will be joining me in just a couple
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  Speaker 3: of minutes.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're new to my show, welcome, I'm so
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  Speaker 2: happy to have you.
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  Speaker 3: Every week.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm twice a month now, I'm the first and
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  Speaker 2: I love to have these kind of conversations. You could
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  Speaker 2: see some of the amazing guests that I've had in
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  Speaker 2: the past, and a little about me. I'm a photographer,
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  Speaker 2: I'm an artist. I have a book which is above
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  Speaker 2: my head, Postcards to the Universe, Harness the Universe's power
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  Speaker 2: and manifest your dreams. And what I do is I
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  Speaker 2: have people create manifesting postcards which I photograph and I
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  Speaker 2: made those into an oracle deck. So I pulled a
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  Speaker 2: card for today, and this is a photo I took,
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  Speaker 2: and the affirmation for today is I inspire by how
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  Speaker 2: I live my life.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought, oh, this is the perfect card for today.
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  Speaker 2: And you will see why in a few minutes when
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  Speaker 2: I talk with my guests, because you're going to see
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  Speaker 2: how much they inspire by what they're doing and how
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  Speaker 2: they're living their life. And a little bit else about me.
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  Speaker 3: I am on now.
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  Speaker 2: YouTube, so the show is streaming live on Home Time
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  Speaker 2: TV on YouTube. It's also streaming live on Postcards to
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  Speaker 2: the Universes YouTube on Postcards to the Universes YouTube. I
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  Speaker 2: started reading the Oracle deck. I started reading tarot cards.
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  Speaker 2: I started reading animal oracles. I started reading the Stranger
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  Speaker 2: Cards deck. If you're into Stranger card. If you're into
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  Speaker 2: stranger things, you'll love the Stranger Cards readings that I've
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  Speaker 2: been doing. So I've been having so much fun and
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  Speaker 2: organized me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so organized. They're all in playlists.
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  Speaker 2: You can go find whatever you're interested in, and please,
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  Speaker 2: it out because I'm really trying to grow that channel.
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  Speaker 2: It's been so much fun doing this and it's totally
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  Speaker 2: opening up my intuition and my psychic abilities are just
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  Speaker 2: coming online stronger and stronger. But I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about me anymore because you can watch me on
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  Speaker 2: my YouTube channel and I talk about a whole bunch
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  Speaker 2: of things. Who I want to talk to today are
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  Speaker 2: my guests. So let's get ready for Christy Levy and
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  Speaker 2: Gary Temple badly, and I am so excited for them
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  Speaker 2: to join me.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Okay, so hi, So let me just do
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  Speaker 3: the little brief.
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  Speaker 2: So Christy is a gifted spiritual medium who acts as
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  Speaker 2: a bridge to the non physical realm, connecting with spirit guides, transition,
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  Speaker 2: loved ones, and higher perspectives to help pinpoint and resolve
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  Speaker 2: the root cause of life's blind spots.
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  Speaker 3: We could all use that.
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  Speaker 2: And Gary is a channeler for Joshua, a group of
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  Speaker 2: non physical teachers. Gary specializes in grounding spiritual concepts, the
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  Speaker 2: law of attraction. Love that Gary, That's all I talk about,
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  Speaker 2: and the mechanics of physical reality and the clear practical
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  Speaker 2: action steps. And you're going to see in the description
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  Speaker 2: below if you're watching all of their information their websites,
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  Speaker 2: how to contact them and how to get in you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to have reading or you want to
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  Speaker 2: get in touch with them. It's going to have all
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  Speaker 2: of that in the description. But I want to just
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  Speaker 2: jump right in and talk to you both. Oh before
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  Speaker 2: I forget, I want to mention. They also have their
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  Speaker 2: own podcasts. It's called an Unimaginable Life, and you can
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  Speaker 2: watch them on their podcast Welcome, So how are you.
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  Speaker 3: Guys doing today?
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  Speaker 4: And fantastic?
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  Speaker 3: Oh thank you.
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  Speaker 2: June is like Christmas in my family because my nephew,
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  Speaker 2: my mom, my brother in law, two of my cousins,
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  Speaker 2: my grandmother who before she passed away me, we're all Geminis. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: it's like Gemini and my sisters like, my God, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to kill you people because.
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  Speaker 3: You know, and then you have Mother's Day and Father's
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  Speaker 3: Day in there too, So.
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  Speaker 5: It's like crazy, it's busy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is busy. So let's get started.
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  Speaker 2: Whoever wants to start first? How did this kind of
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how do you become like a channeler?
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  Speaker 6: Like?
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  Speaker 3: How does this just happen?
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  Speaker 2: Everybody I know who channels has a different way it's
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  Speaker 2: come into their life.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I was gonna joke that I grew up in Boca
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  Speaker 6: then went to FAU and then FAU they had a
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  Speaker 6: class on channeling.
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  Speaker 4: So I took that no one would take that class.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, But so I.
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  Speaker 6: Was a totally normal person, lived a normal life. I
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  Speaker 6: had a real estate business and everything was going fine.
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  Speaker 6: Never thought anything like this would happen. And then in
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  Speaker 6: two thousand and thirty, team, I get this really strong
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  Speaker 6: inspiration to start meditating. And I had never wanted to
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  Speaker 6: meditate before. The last thing I ever wanted to do
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  Speaker 6: was be alone with my thoughts. But I thought Jerry
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  Speaker 6: Seinfeld was really into TM and Howard Stern and so
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  Speaker 6: at the time I had been listening to Abraham. I
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  Speaker 6: had really got into Abraham Aster Higgs of Abraham, and
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  Speaker 6: so they had these four guided meditations. So I just
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  Speaker 6: put those on, and you know, like the first day,
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  Speaker 6: I could only go a minute, you know, there's so
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  Speaker 6: many thoughts. But soon I could go for the whole
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  Speaker 6: fifty minutes of the thing. And right away I felt
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  Speaker 6: this presence on the side of my head, always coming.
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  Speaker 6: When I first started meditating, and they would move around
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  Speaker 6: the side of my head, I go, this is really weird.
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  Speaker 6: And I didn't know what that was, and it came
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  Speaker 6: every single time. So one day I started talking to
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  Speaker 6: it as if it was a presence, asking these questions
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  Speaker 6: and getting back these answers that I mean, it was
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  Speaker 6: in my own voice, but it wasn't something I would
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  Speaker 6: have said or known about. And so I played with
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  Speaker 6: it and I didn't really believe it, but eventually I said,
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  Speaker 6: who is this and very clearly I got back, we
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  Speaker 6: are Joshua.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't know what that was, didn't know what's going
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  Speaker 6: on here, still thought I was making it up. But
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  Speaker 6: this kept going from the summer of twenty thirteen until
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  Speaker 6: November fifteenth, twenty thirteen, when they said get up and
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  Speaker 6: go right, right right.
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  Speaker 4: So I just got up and I went to my
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  Speaker 4: computer to start typing.
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  Speaker 6: I typed three pages in about forty minutes or so,
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  Speaker 6: and didn't know what it was. Turns out that was
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  Speaker 6: the introduction to the first book, which is called A
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  Speaker 6: Perception of Reality. And then I went back to the
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  Speaker 6: next day, forty minutes, next day, next day, didn't miss
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  Speaker 6: one day. In eight weeks, this three hundred page book
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  Speaker 6: was done. I would leave off in the middle of
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  Speaker 6: a paragraph one day, come back right where it was,
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  Speaker 6: no editing, no changing it, just typos and it was
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  Speaker 6: completely done right, just.
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  Speaker 4: Had to do the typeos.
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  Speaker 6: But then the next day said go right again, so
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  Speaker 6: I go back in start writing, and that was the
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  Speaker 6: introduction introduction to the next book, which is Health, Wealth
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  Speaker 6: and Love, also done in eight weeks, also three hundred pages.
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  Speaker 6: And since then there's been two more books, A Radical
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  Speaker 6: Change and the Joshua Die.
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  Speaker 4: So this, you know, sort of took a life of
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  Speaker 4: its own.
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  Speaker 6: I had friends in the Abraham community, so I was
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  Speaker 6: sending them out what was being read every day, and
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  Speaker 6: they would send it out to friends. And then I
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  Speaker 6: had a book and I sent that out to a
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  Speaker 6: few people. Then got the uh.
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  Speaker 4: I met the.
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  Speaker 6: Lady who ran the Law of Attraction radio network, and
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  Speaker 6: she's like, you got to start a podcast, So I
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  Speaker 6: started Joshua it was called the Joshua or the Law
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  Speaker 6: of Attraction Roundtable. Because I wasn't speaking at the time.
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  Speaker 6: I was just writing you Yeah, I never thought I
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  Speaker 6: would speak it. But then I was invited to be
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  Speaker 6: on the Law of Attraction Cruise. It's one of the
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  Speaker 6: speakers cruise. Yeah, there's a lot of fun on that cruise.
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  Speaker 6: I was hypnotized and Joshua came in through speaking and
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  Speaker 6: since then it's been you know, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Been floodgates just open.
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  Speaker 4: Community built around it.
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  Speaker 6: And then we started the Joshua Live podcast, which is
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  Speaker 6: every week Joshua channeling in front of a group of
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  Speaker 6: people on Zoom and so we just make that.
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  Speaker 4: Into a podcast.
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  Speaker 3: That's great.
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  Speaker 6: And so I was still you know, I was just
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  Speaker 6: living my life and just doing this bit by bit,
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  Speaker 6: you know, but make an hour a day. And then
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  Speaker 6: I had the inspiration to buy a house for a retreat.
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  Speaker 6: And I really wanted to do these retreats. We had
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  Speaker 6: to cruises, and we had gone to Vegas and stuff before,
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  Speaker 6: but I wanted to have a place to do it,
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  Speaker 6: and so I found this house in North Carolina. There
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  Speaker 6: was a Victorian mansion, big five bedroom house built in
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  Speaker 6: nineteen hundred.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds like the place that you want to go
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  Speaker 2: to to a retreat, right.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my god, But it hadn't been lived in for
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  Speaker 6: fifteen years, so I needed total renovation.
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  Speaker 5: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 6: So I move up there and I'm staying my friend's
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  Speaker 6: house while the house is being renovated.
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  Speaker 4: And then finally move in.
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  Speaker 6: And when I move in, I had run out of
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  Speaker 6: money and I didn't know what I was going to
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  Speaker 6: do because I couldn't do real state up there.
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  Speaker 4: And so then.
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  Speaker 6: The inspiration came to create a course and that was
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  Speaker 6: all channeled and it was it's called the boot Camp,
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  Speaker 6: and so I offered it to people who were listening
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  Speaker 6: to the podcasts and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And Christy was was one of those people. That's how we.
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  Speaker 6: And so who took the boot camp. She came to
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  Speaker 6: the first retreat. We became really good friends. And then
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  Speaker 6: now Christy can tell her story.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Christy, Yeah, I want to hear.
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  Speaker 2: So that's really interesting, Like I wonder if Christy obviously
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  Speaker 2: meeting Gary was kind of what opened up maybe your floodgates,
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  Speaker 2: that stuff that you already had like moving around in you,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, it was a catalyst, you know, Okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: tell us how it happened for you.
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  Speaker 5: I think so I was had very much. I've been
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  Speaker 5: listening to Abraham.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, I listened for a lot.
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  Speaker 5: And I'd just gotten to a point where I think
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  Speaker 5: I'd gotten as far as I could get. There were
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  Speaker 5: things I just I don't know how to change my vibration.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what. Yeah, So I did the pot
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  Speaker 5: luckret whatever, the roulette spin on different podcasts, and I
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  Speaker 5: saw Joshua live and I started listening in that light bulb.
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  Speaker 5: But but, oh my god, that's it is the most
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  Speaker 5: logical next step to someone who's been listening to Abraham
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  Speaker 5: for a long Timeyeah, just practical and so good. So
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  Speaker 5: I listened for a few days, but then reached out
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  Speaker 5: to him. I took the boot camp. And the way
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  Speaker 5: that he had the boot camp design was really cool.
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  Speaker 5: But you could take it once, and once you paid
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  Speaker 5: for it and took it one time, you could take
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  Speaker 5: it as many times as you want. So he would
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  Speaker 5: run the boot camp, you know, three or four times
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  Speaker 5: a year, and I did it eight times.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 5: The interesting thing about that and what somebody listening to
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  Speaker 5: what would a boot camp be? It really was this
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  Speaker 5: course that It was complex and immersive, but it was
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  Speaker 5: just designed to raise your perspective on yourself and your
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  Speaker 5: reality and help you process your limiting beliefs. How do
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  Speaker 5: you know what they are? We don't know what they are,
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  Speaker 5: but it taught me all of that. So I did
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  Speaker 5: it eight times, and I think I really knew when
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  Speaker 5: to stop. Every time I did the boot camp, I
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  Speaker 5: would find something new in it, or I would read
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  Speaker 5: a paragraph this wasn't here before, and Gary was saying,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't change it were the point, but I think
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  Speaker 5: after a while, then eventually the eighth time, I saw
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  Speaker 5: nothing new and I went, Okay, I think I'm you know,
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  Speaker 5: I think I've done it. I've done it enough. And
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  Speaker 5: it was right after that that I was actually visiting
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  Speaker 5: with Gary in North Carolina and we had other friends
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  Speaker 5: there and a friend's grandmother came in. Okay, and that's
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  Speaker 5: It's It would take a very long time to explain
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  Speaker 5: how that heard right, but she did. And I had
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  Speaker 5: no idea, and definitely, mediumship wasn't something I even believed
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  Speaker 5: in at the time, right that that talking to dead people,
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  Speaker 5: I was pretty skeptical. So when it came through and
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  Speaker 5: that's how right it was.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so when it came through it, you were a
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  Speaker 3: little shocked.
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  Speaker 2: You weren't expecting like you were wanting to open up
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  Speaker 2: your maybe your intuitive abilities. You wanted to maybe manifest
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  Speaker 2: a better law of attraction, and you weren't thinking like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, all of a sudden, now I'm opening
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  Speaker 2: up to people who saw us.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I just I didn't think of myself as
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  Speaker 5: being psychic. I didn't care, wasn't interested. I thought there
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  Speaker 5: were only a few channels on the planet, right, Abraham Esther,
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  Speaker 5: Gary and you know, maybe a couple of others that
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  Speaker 5: I might have heard about. But that wasn't of interest
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  Speaker 5: to me. None of that was. I just wanted to
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  Speaker 5: feel better, and that's what the boot camp did. I
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  Speaker 5: didn't care about anything else.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, you said that, though.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really glad you said that, because I think that
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  Speaker 2: is what all of us do when we start doing
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  Speaker 2: the inner work, and whatever that ends up looking like,
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  Speaker 2: is that we want to feel better. That's why we're here, right,
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  Speaker 2: whatever is causing you not to feel good, whatever that is,
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  Speaker 2: we all just want.
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  Speaker 3: To feel better, right, feel better? Yeah, so yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: makes it.
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  Speaker 5: There was made no sense for for me. I was
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  Speaker 5: help I had a beautiful, healthy, great thing.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't have to crazy all this stuff.
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  Speaker 5: But I was like, there's just something's off, right, this
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  Speaker 5: up and down roller coaster, all this control, right, none
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  Speaker 5: of this is working. And I found a different way
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  Speaker 5: to approach life, and it shifted my vibrations so much.
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  Speaker 5: In doing that work that unintentionally, I became able to
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  Speaker 5: connect with spirit guides, to connect with transition loved ones,
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  Speaker 5: and to channel a non physical group as well. So
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  Speaker 5: it just happens, I think, and everyone could do it.
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  Speaker 5: It just depends, right when once you get to that place, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you will. It just is just there.
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  Speaker 2: So if somebody you actually see clients who will come
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  Speaker 2: to you Christy and be like, oh, you know, I'd
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  Speaker 2: like to connect to my grandmother or my mother if
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  Speaker 2: I can, and you and you actually work with them
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  Speaker 2: on that, like you, I want and.
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  Speaker 5: Do it and I do that. What my mediumship turned
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  Speaker 5: into very very quickly is has been the transition loved
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  Speaker 5: ones will come in and blow someone's mind with what
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  Speaker 5: they're telling me. It blows my mind.
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  Speaker 3: Still, Yeah, I'm sure tell me that.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody starts crying and how did you do that? Okay,
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  Speaker 5: but they do that and then they stop. They don't
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  Speaker 5: go into a whole lot of conversation with the person
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  Speaker 5: about hey, I'm good, I'm sorry, we didn't do that,
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  Speaker 5: and they just don't. They introduce spirit guides who then
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  Speaker 5: it's designed to take this person on, get them on
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  Speaker 5: a different path, or direct them. It's just that's the way.
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  Speaker 5: What I'm not someone a medium that comes in and says, hey,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Grandma says she's good and she loves you.
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  Speaker 5: They will do that very briefly, but mostly what they
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  Speaker 5: want to do is blow someone's mind so that sitting
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  Speaker 5: there they go, Okay, this is real. And then the
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  Speaker 5: spirit guides come and they say do this, do this,
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  Speaker 5: do this, and off they go. It's pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 3: That is really interesting. So how did it turn? And
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  Speaker 3: then how did that turn into? Like what we're going
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  Speaker 3: to do in the.
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  Speaker 2: Second half after we come back is we don't know
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  Speaker 2: who's coming through. You don't know who's coming through, but
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  Speaker 2: some historical figure likes to like come through, Like how
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  Speaker 2: did that happen?
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  Speaker 5: Girl? Yeah you were by accident.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we were hanging out with.
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  Speaker 5: Friends and some a famous deferson just to entertain us,
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  Speaker 5: I think a right, Yeah, you tell the story.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So.
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  Speaker 6: Chris and I got eventually into a relationship together, and
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  Speaker 6: so we're together in a hotel and we're sitting on
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  Speaker 6: the bed and talking about how unusual it is that
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  Speaker 6: so many rock stars and comedians die.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Yep, just a normal con.
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: So then we go outside and we're on the patio
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: and suddenly some something's playing with Christie's hair.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: And it's like, what is that? And I said, let's
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: ask who it is.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: And so we got all these clues like we're gonna
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: go today because we never know ahead of time. So
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: we got the Red Arrow camp and we got.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, right, and it was Chris.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: Farley and he's the first one that came in.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: And so you know, I've been channeling this whole time.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: But I'm like a question, Yeah, I want to know
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: stuff about physical reality and spirituality, and so I'm asking
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: all these spiritual questions, you know, and what his life
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: was like and what he thought. And we had this
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: great conversation. Then he goes away, and then about half
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: an hour later, Tom Petty comes, Oh my god, and
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: so now we have this big, you know, conversation with
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Tom Petty and it's like it's like he's right.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: There, because yes, and we feel like.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: We're friends with him, and we're joking with him too.
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: And so we have a little speaker out there and
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: just on our playlist playing and suddenly here comes your girls.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: Here comes a girl starts playing. It's not on our playlist.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: It just starts playing while he's talking to us. And
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: so this happened thirty times, and we were like, I'm
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: on my birthday. David Bowie came through because we have
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: the same birthday. Talked to him for two hours. Then
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: then one day do you remember how Prince came through?
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was upstairs and I got an earworm with
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: three different songs. Nothing compares to.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: You something else.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: So like when Prince came through, did you ask him
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: like what happened?
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: There's like so mysterious about how he died, you know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: like do you did you do? He say? I'm just
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: curious now that you brought him up.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: That one's recorded, Oh is it?
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna have to go.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go watch that one because I want
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: to see what brit said.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: I can't remember what he said.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: Marilyn Morrel came. I remember this was one of the
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: first ones that came through, and I asked her about
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: her death, and she said, wouldn't you rather keep it
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: a mission?
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: Isn't the mystery more fun?
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah? The mystery more fun. And that's basically I.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Mean, it is more fun. But you know, I don't
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: want to know.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: They rarely will talk. They will rarely talk about.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Their their death.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Always if it's really perfect, they say, it's very unimportant.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Why do you think that that started happening to you?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Like of all of like, is it do you think?
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Because you guys started the podcast?
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: So they're sort of like wanting everybody to know, like
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: there's life after death, that this isn't the and and
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: so so they could broadcast that out in a bigger way.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Like what would make them you know what I mean? Like,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: why would they start doing that?
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: I guess we could just say residents, okay, Right, So
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: Christy has this ability.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: It's very easy for her. I can I can get
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: the questions.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: So what happens and when we do this later on,
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: you'll see Christy will bring them in, we'll figure out
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: who they are. We enter this field, the three of
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: us in the enter this field, and I start getting
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: questions to ask.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Okay, they're actually giving me the.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Good good because you're gonna have to help me because
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I maybe.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: But I think it's just for fun.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Just for fun. I don't think it was for fun.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: They yeah, we Lissa. They say all the time, first
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: of all, that they're so excited to talk, right, they're
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: so excited to come in. They're very excited where and
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: there is a channel. They say that all the time.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: But then they also say this was all set up.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: There's there's never a moment that this wasn't going to happen,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: and in fact, it's all happening in the same moment.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: So there's so many layers to it. Yeah, but mostly
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: there's nothing serious going on here. It's just fun to play.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: And I think that's really that's it. That's a lot
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: my style. I'm not that, you know, I could be
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: very serious, but I just am not, And I think
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: that's partly why it comes up. But it used to
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: come in. It would just be us and three friends
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: and we'd be sitting outside and all of a sudden like, okay,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: you guys and I would get some weird thing, and
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: there after a while they know me and they'd say, Okay,
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: what and it really was.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: That sounds fun.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: It sounds like it's fun, and it's fun at around
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the campfire parties at your house.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what it's like, right. And when we started
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: doing it for big groups, they would kick me out,
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: kick me out, but I would have to go somewhere
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: else and they would all pick a continent a century,
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: male or female and say science or music or what
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: some area. Because it would start and I'm just sure many,
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: and then I come back and they'd say, okay, female,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: eighteen hundreds, United States of America music, and it starts
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: filtering and then whoever comes through comes serted. It's always
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: really cool. So we do it that.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Way sometimes, And so people who are listening here can
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: go and watch those on your zooms like listen Yeast.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Or whatever, listen or whatever. Yeah, they can listen to.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: It, okay on Apple podcast.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: That is so wild. That is fun. I mean, that's
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: like part of the fun of it.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people are scared of it,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, I don't that happening to me. See,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I've had I've always had weird experiences ever since I
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: was little.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: And when I a few years a couple.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Of years ago when I started doing meditating too, like
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: you Gary, but I couldn't go quiet, so I would
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: go on visual journeys and on my journey a dragon,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: it became my spirit. I came forth and now I
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: see my dragon every day. But about a year after,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: two years after my sister died, my sister started showing up.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: She comes up, so I see her every day, so
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: it's yeah, it really is. My sister was was developmentally disabled.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: She still shows up the way I knew her.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: But I know that's more for me than for her,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: you know kind of thing like that's how I need
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: her to show up.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: So when people tell.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Me these kind of things like this isn't crazy to me,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: you know, like I've seen like little fairies, like I've
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: seen things, you know, so like I know that I'm
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: already like I believe it, you know, I believe that
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: it's happening to me because I know it feels real,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Like I feel closer to.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: My sister now.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I tell my mom a lot than I did when
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: she was alive, because I see her every day, and
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: it's just that she's not physically here. But when I'm
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: in that space, I can hug her and touch her
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and hold her hand and kiss her, you know what
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I mean. So it feels very very real to me.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it can be that that plane or that
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: side of the veil or whatever. Can it actually is
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: more real to us than this. Let's get your feed
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: in both worlds. This is actually less real. This is
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: more cartoonish to me than that side, which is interesting. Yeah.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Well, and it's fascinating, are you. I'm sure you're noticing
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: how I mean, just this week with the movie Disclosure
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: coming out, Steven Spielberg's Disclosure coming out, like more and
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: more things are showing up in our consciousness to like
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: wake people up, like it's not just about us being
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: on this one earth.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: And then we go and we're worm food, you know.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Like it's so much better than that. Do you have
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: you noticed that in the conversation.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And everyone who talks about Disclosure day too, they're
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: like getting chills and it's almost like there's some other,
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: you know, message in that whole thing that's starting to
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: wake people.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Oh I can't wait to see it.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they get chills, they're getting downloads.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: He's probably an alien.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't know it yet, but he's seen in
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Spielberg's probably an alien.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: Well can you imagine that possibly his whole life was
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: set up to do this, do this one thing, Yes,
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: to make this movie that awakens people.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I just watched Close Encounters for the Third Kind the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: other night because I want to watch that. I'm going
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: to watch ET I think tonight, and then I'm going
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: to see Disclosure Day on Saturday, so i want to
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: see how it's shifted the story has Hey, yeah, all right, so.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I just looked at our time.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Let's take our break now, and then when we come back,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Christy is going to bring forth somebody.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: We'll figure it out. Stay tuned. I'm so excited. We'll
• 27:13
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  Speaker 2: Historical figure forward and we're going to try to figure
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  Speaker 2: it out, right, Gary, that's what we're going to do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, won't take long. There'll be two of them.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, usually there's two. And there's two already because.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay, And so I'm going to follow your lead
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: because this is so new to me. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: like what kind of questions to ask or anything.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Well, think about the questions that are coming to you.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it'll be intuitive, okay.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: And sometimes they talk so much that you.
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• 30:35
  Speaker 4: It would be about something you're interested in.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: I'll be okay, both mail for sure. Interesting energy so
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: really soft energy, not weak, right, not passive or weak,
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: but very kind like soft, sweet, deliberate, definitely not rushing
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: at all.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Can I start asking questions or no, Let's.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: Just let me get what I write, what I'm going
• 31:21
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• 31:26
  Speaker 5: I can hear a little bit just Scott like this
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: crazy crazy curly hair like he's making a big deal
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: out of the hair. M okah, it's a paint brush.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: He's painting the word joy, Joy painting it though.
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: Okay, Oh, we're gonna get some artists coming for you, Melissa.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: That makes so much sense. Okay, okay, yeah, painting Joy,
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: all right, here we go. Of course there are no
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: way oh something about no mistakes, no mistakes, no mistakes happy.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: What's that word happy? Accident? No mistake happy? That's rights, oh,
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: Bob Ross.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Because of the painting okay, off joy off spoken and
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: joy and the hair, the curly hair.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: I don't really know him, so you guys are going
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: to have to I never know, yeah from PBS.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm thinking, you know, obviously, it doesn't just
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: have to be a visual artists I'm thinking actor, I'm
• 33:01
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• 33:03
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm like.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Going through like the gamut in my head, you know, yeah, okay, brush.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: He's gonna let Okay. The next one is like they
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: are totally different energy. Okay, imagine just like a flash
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: of light like okay, big smile, Oh jeez, okay everywhere whoa. Okay,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: this one is impossible to contain. Holy moly. Okay, God
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: keep saying gorgeous in an accent. I'm gonna say it's Australian. Yeah,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: that's right. Okay, that's right. Okay, Yeah, isn't he gorgeous?
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: He keeps saying it over God. I mean, I almost
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: recognize the voice, but I don't have it yet.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: It's not.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, his name went out of my head.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: The one that took care of the animals. Do you
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about?
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Gary and the guy that died what's his name?
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: Oh? Okay, hold on.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Because he used to say that to his Steve Irwin Steve, Yes,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: because he would call his alligator crocodiles gorgeous.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Okay, that's why I saw that.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Well, he's not Australian. I'm thinking Australia.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: But then when you said gorgeous, because I remember, I've
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: never seen anybody just got chills.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I just got goosebumps on Steve.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I never seen anybody describe animals the way that he
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: did and his enthusiasm and he would.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Isn't in his acte it isn't she gorgeous?
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: Like just like, yes, that's what it sounded like. Yeah,
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: thank you, Yes, the energy is so groovy.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Can I ask can I ask Steve anything there?
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, they're let them they're going to talk. At first,
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: they're going to talk.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: About Okay, let me know what they're going to say, and.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Then yeah, and then yeah, of course anything that your mind. Okay,
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: So all right. So they they say that people that
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: are are listening, they often think that the idea of
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: acceptance means just sitting still, and that excitement actually means
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: fighting fighting life. But if you're fighting with reality, you
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: can't really participate in it. And if you're afraid to
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: participate in it, then you'll never discover what is really
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: there for you. So they say that the reason that
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: they came and came together, they're so cool together, you guys, man,
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: two completely opposite things that they go so well together.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: But it's because because your audience, right, everybody that's listening,
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: they're exhausted from trying to control life, and they just
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: want to introduce a different way. They say, right, that
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: the discomfort and the suffering is not coming from what's happening, right,
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: it comes from arguing with what's happening. And when the
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: painting doesn't match, he says, the picture in your mind,
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: then you suffer. And when you became afraid of something
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: being uncertain, you stop really exploring and engaging. Okay, go
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: with that, really living, And they say, but what's funny
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: is that uncertainty isn't the problem. That's where all the
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: really interesting stuff is. It's in that. And they just
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: want to say that life, life is not asking for
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: you to control it. It's asking for you to participate
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: with it. And what most people are okay, keep going.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: What most people are misunderstanding, they're talking collectively, and it's
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: just interesting to try to decipher. So what people are
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: mostly misunderstan standing about what's going on is they don't
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: understand what fear is. And so Steve says, in his life,
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: people assume that he was not afraid and I know
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: that word. Oh my god, I got the criky.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you would say that, you would say that. Yeah,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I used to watch him, so I definitely know he.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: I was afraid all the time.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Wow, you wouldn't know that from watching him, because his
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: exuberance was just taking.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: He's so excited to just be here right now, like
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: this conversation he's so excited about and they both thought
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: it's very interesting. So but but he says that he
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: stood inches from creatures or beings that demanded his full
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: attention that wanted to kill him. Right, the absence of
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: fear wasn't the gift, right. The gift he had was
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: understanding that fear wasn't telling him to stop. And that's
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: what he wants to say. Fear is wisdom sometimes right,
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: but very very often. Ohh man, I love how he
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: saying this. It's just the edge of an unknown world. Yeah.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: And if every time you feel any sort of fear,
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: and he wants to remind that fear isn't that being
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: scared for your physical life or physical harm. It's it's
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: the feeling of being too tired to do it, or
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: not preferring that I don't like that, or I'm not
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: really good enough yet to go in front of those
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: people and do that, right, It's that's fears. It's not
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: just that you know, being afraid for love stories. But
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: if every time you felt fear you turned around and
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: went home, your life just becomes this small, small, smaller thing, right, true.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: And what they okay back to you, okay that what
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: fear very often means that something really important is happening here.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: And he says, when he started, what are you doing
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: doing something? Oh, painting on TV? Right? Yeah, he definitely
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: was uncomfortable.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Right when.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: He was apparently in the military. I think he's saying
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: when he left that and did this, that doesn't quite
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: at all. Yeah, I don't know.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know about his past.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Well it's interesting because he has such a soft energy
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: to him and Steve has such an exuberant energy to him.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: But they're both doing.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: Beauty, showing up.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: They're both showing up in their own life, doing what
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: they loved.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: So yeah, so they say, what he's saying is that
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: when he left to start something new, there was you know,
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: no confidence, right, nothing, And we imagine that confidence is
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: going to come first, but it doesn't. It comes after.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: So you people, everybody or a lot of people listening,
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: are waiting to feel ready to make the call to
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: to do the thing, but you never feel ready, And
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: adventure doesn't ask if you're ready, It just opens a door.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: And then your feelings, the emotions that they want to
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: talk to you about here is because they say that
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: your emotions are going to tell you what you believe
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: about yourself and walking through the door, that's what's going on.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: So you're your feelings tell you what you believe. And
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: so many people spend so much time trying to get
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: rid of uncomfortable feelings, right, annoyance, resentment, any of that. Right,
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: But those feelings are revealing something, and they're showing you
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: a thought. They're showing you a belief or an expectation
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: that you have been holding onto that isn't true when
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: you feel that negative emotion. So that inspiration you're hearing
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: and like in your case, to do this book right,
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: he said, do this book right, or to tell someone
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: you love them, or to take a trip sort of business,
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: whatever it is. And then the fear that pops up,
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: the fear isn't coming from the thing itself. I love
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: how they're putting this.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: You just think something interesting, you said, like they're telling
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: you do this book.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I am doing a book.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's you.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: But the fact nobody knows that though, that I'm in
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: the sorry writing a book and you just said that
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: They do. But that's why, because it's different. It's very different.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: From anything I've ever done, and it's gonna people are
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: going to be like, whoa, you know what I mean?
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: And then you.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Said that, and I just caught that. I know, I'm
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: outing myself. I'm not telling nobody what it's about yet,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: but I'm in the process of it, so I caught that.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: So thank you, Thank you for the information.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, like the fear that you had to go
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: push fast to do this book.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: It's different. Oh yeah, yea. But the fact that I,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: like nobody knows I'm writing it right now. Now they do.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Because you said it so matter of factly, like yeah,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: like do the book, Like, just do the book.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: And I'm thinking I didn't tell them I was doing
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: the book.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the way this stuff comes through. It
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: comes so fast, getting out half sixty percent of what
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: they're giving to care they go so fast, right, it's
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: just it's too much. So they're dying laughing right now,
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: like dying laughing. They're trying to They're like, whoops, we're
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: just trying to slide that one by.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: That's okay.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: So that they say, everyone thinks that the fear is
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: coming from the thing itself, Like from can I write
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: the book, can I make this, you know, towards this
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: different path? Can I do something different? But what the
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: fear is actually coming from is not the thing. It's
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: coming from what you believe about yourself and what you
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: believe could happen. And how then that thing could make
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: you feel negative emotion? Right, and we're tying it all
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: up together. So perhaps you believe you're fail right, you'll
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: be judged, you'll be you'll disappoint someone else, right, you're
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: not capable of doing it whatever, All these things are right,
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: This canvas here with this idea or this thing to
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: do didn't create the thoughts. It revealed the thoughts. And
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: that emotion is how you know what you think and
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: what you're thinking, and that's how you discover these beliefs
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: that are limiting you and holding you back. Right, So,
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: because fear shows up and reveals itself as a belief,
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: and then now you know they said you don't need
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: to be afraid. Fear isn't your enemy. It's just helping
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: you understand the beliefs you have that are limiting you.
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: Right, So Joshua Joshua has a way of saying this
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: that a limiting belief is like a doughnut.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: It's a belief without information.
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: When you take the action, that experience then fills information
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: into that limiting belief, and it's no longer limiting, it
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: becomes empowering. What would they say about that from their perspective?
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: Now, yeah, so they're good. So it's what people spend
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: their lives doing is trying to manage the emotion, just
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: like what Joshua saying, right, trying to suppress the emotion,
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: trying to fix the emotion, replace it with a better emotion. Right,
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: But that's emotions. It's you wouldn't yell at a warning
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: light on your dashboard, they say, so they use this donut, right,
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: you wouldn't cover it with this happy face sticker or whatever,
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: and saying okay, well there it is, right, But that's
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: what we do with uncomfortable emotions, and we distract, We
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: numb ourselves, We avoid situations that could cause these negative
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: emotions and try to control every aspect of our lives
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: so that we don't ever feel bad. Right, But in
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: doing that, we miss the information what Joshua calls the
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: information saying, they're going to call even sweeter, they're going
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: to call it a gift. When we do all of
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: those things, we miss the gift because the emotion isn't
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: the damn message. They say, So, Mandy, that's that message.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: The emotion is drawing your attention to the message. That's
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: that's what they want to say. So it's let yourself
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: get inspired and excited about writing the book, about doing
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: the book right. You know, you want to do it,
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: and all this is and as you move through the process,
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: anxiety did show up, right.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm excited, and it's just it's I'm very
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: excited and when I'm writing, I'm in the flow, and
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I just I can't say.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: But one day.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: You'll know why when the book comes out, and you'll
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, I get why she was.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Had those reservations. Yeah, you know, But.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: I think it's this is a good message for everybody
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: because and I like, you have two very different creative
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: people living their lives, living out their creativity in very
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: different ways, right, Bob, I went for a second, all
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: that energy.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're back, We're back. That happens. That happens with
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: lots of me too.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: So Bob Ross, you know, very soft spoken, I mean
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: basically in a room with a canvas and a paintbrush
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: being filmed, I mean, as quiet and as calm and
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: as beautiful as but he was showing how that was something,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: that what he was creating was beautiful. And then you
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: have Steve Irwin who was flying all over the world,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: jumping on you know, I mean, ultimately it did kill him,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: you know, but flying all over the world, but living
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: his life the way he wanted and he was so
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: love the animals and.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: The earth, and.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: You know, he was so exuberant in his living his creativity.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: So they're very two extremes actually, which is kind of
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: which is great because it shows people that most of
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: us are somewhere in the middle.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: It's so cool, right, It's really cool.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: But this question just came to me.
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: For Steve is isn't his life the example of this
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: topic right now? He pushed past fair to do what
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: he's inspired to do, and he never missed a beat,
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: He never held back and from our limited perspective, we say, oh,
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: he died doing this, and in order to avoid that,
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: we would all live small lives so we don't die
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: doing what we do. But in fact, from his perspective,
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: that was the perfect way to leave.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: And one of my questions, the follow up, is how
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: is he helping from now this greater perspective, this, you know,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: the animals that he loves so much, you know, from
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: this bigger perspective.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, that's funny. So he's really using that accent,
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: which I think just mostly to entertain me because I
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: can't copy it. But like he says, mate, mate, if
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: I waited till I was not afraid, I would never
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: have done anything ever. Like ever, So his fear was
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: always there, right, he says, in his life, but fear
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: wasn't making his decisions. That's what he wants you to understand, right,
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: that's the distinction. So that's his whole life, right, was
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: a perfect example of that, he says. So sometimes you
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: hear people will hear a conversation like this, like what
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: we're having, and assume that our goal is to eliminate
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: fear first, and it isn't. They say, that's not it.
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: It's the goal is to understand it, to listen to it,
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: to learn from it. Right. And then sometimes you understand
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: you have to move anyway even while the fear is
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: still there. Right. And that's where he says his life
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: was an extra beautiful example of these things and this
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: stuff that you know, Joshua and White Light talk about,
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: which is that fear and inspiration exist simultaneously, sus they
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: have to, right, They're just both sides of essentially the
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: same the same coin, right, And that Yeah.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know anybody who doesn't have anxieties or fears about,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: you know, whatever they're doing.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: It's like you just have to do it anyway. You
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: have to push yourself through it because trying to stop
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: the fear, you're going to stop yourself. You have to
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: just say, I'm afraid, but I'm going to do it anyway.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: But I do it anyway, disaster, even if I bake
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: this cake and it's a disaster, I'm going to do
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: it anyway.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's there's a process for that, they're saying,
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: and it's it's it's not an elephant that you can
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: just buy it. Some desires are so big and the
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: fear is small, so the ability to jump over it
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: is there. But if if the desires here and the
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: fear is even with it, just doing it anyway takes
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: process and takes steps, takes understanding what we believe in
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: softening that belief, helping ourselves understand that that's really not true,
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: and then taking the next step and the next step
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: and the next step. So he okay, he's they're moving
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: really fast. Okay, so he said, one of his biggest
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: surprises is Steve. His biggest surprises after leaving this physical
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: life was realizing that the animals didn't need saving in
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: the way he thought they did. That's interesting, he says,
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: they needed respect, partnership, and humans to remember that they belonged.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: But when he was alive, he says, his mission was
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: this what he calls conservation, And now what he sees
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: from his perspective is conservation was about consciousness. It was
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: about helping humans actually to remember that they are a whole,
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: big part of nature and not separate from it. Right,
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: So his work now, he says, what his interest is
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: now from his perspective, is less about individual animals and
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: more about influencing human awareness, his interest has shifted. There
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: the animals do their own thing, and he says, it's
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: it's not through force, right, shifting or intervention at all. Right,
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: that's not it. But it's through inspiration and the Yeah,
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: he says, so in the same way that we might
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: think of guides and ancestors, non physical supporters, right, that
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: sort of thing. He says, if someone suddenly feels compelled
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: to protect a habitat, or a kid develops a fascination
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: with wildlife or nature, right of somebody just feels their
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: heart open while they see a dolphin or a bird
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: or whatever. Right, those are the moments, he says, those
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: are the moments that matter, and that's where the change begins.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: So they have conversation together sometimes too. It's interesting, he says,
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: So you're still teaching.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: It's and we only have a minute, less than a
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: minute left.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's crazy.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: I really pross.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: I could go on and on. Thank you Steve and
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: thank you Bob.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: But people, how can they get a hold of Christy
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: and Gary? So like, tell everybody how they can get
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: a hold of you, and I'll have all that listen.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Christy. That was beautiful thank you.
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, they can just go to the Teachings of
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: Joshua dot com or google Gary Temple Bodley or Christy Levy.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: You'll find us there.
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: You'll see the podcast and the two different podcasts are
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: basically two ways of learning about the same thing, which
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: is perspective and.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: Limiting belief respect.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: I love it. I had so much fun with you too.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much, guys.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Please check them out.
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: Oh god, what thank you?
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to post Cards to the Universe with
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Melissa creating the life you crave. And I'm wishing everyone
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: a wonderful week filled with joy, abundance and love.
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: Peace.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Bye everybody.