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Full Show Podcast: 06 August 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: early edition with ex Pole Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes Warm
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  Speaker 1: and tray. This winter news talk.
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  Speaker 2: Sa'd be good morning at a.
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  Speaker 3: Six after five. Welcome to your Wednesday. Great to have
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  Speaker 3: your company unemployment. We'll get a number out this morning
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  Speaker 3: on that meant to be the peak unemployment right now.
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  Speaker 2: But what about labor market hoarding?
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  Speaker 3: Have you heard of that? We'll discuss before six this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Gavin Graham the UK. This one in, one out policy
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  Speaker 3: on migrants starts today.
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  Speaker 2: AI is going to be marking our kids exams. We
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  Speaker 2: will look at that. The foreshore and.
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  Speaker 3: Seabeds back and China's evs may be about to get
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  Speaker 3: more expensive. If you were thinking of buying a BYD
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  Speaker 3: anytime soon, we'll talk about that too. And NETT and
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  Speaker 3: Yahoo will stay across this meeting on potentially completely taking
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  Speaker 3: over Gaza.
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  Speaker 1: The agenda.
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  Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, the sixth of August.
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  Speaker 3: Remember the Titan sub, the one that exploded with the
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  Speaker 3: billionaires on board. Well, the us cocard's final reports come
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  Speaker 3: out absolutely scathing against ocean Gate, critically flawed safety, skipped inspections,
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  Speaker 3: toxic culture.
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  Speaker 4: Five people died on that dive. One of them was
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  Speaker 4: the CEO Stockton Rush. This report says that had he
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  Speaker 4: been alive, they would be making a recommendation to the
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  Speaker 4: Department of Justice to consider opening a criminal investigation into
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  Speaker 4: his behavior and the way that he ran oceangate.
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  Speaker 3: We are now waiting this morning for an Israeli government
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  Speaker 3: security cab at meeting NITYA, who reportedly behind the scenes
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  Speaker 3: pushing to fully reoccupy Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: Not everyone obviously's on board with that.
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  Speaker 5: US has really been decimated in honor have any command
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  Speaker 5: and control. They's surely not in a position to threaten Israel,
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  Speaker 5: and that's why the idea does not support this mission.
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  Speaker 5: The Chief of Staff has been openly opposing it, and
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  Speaker 5: that's because the purpose really seems to be to destroy
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  Speaker 5: all the infrastructure and all the homes in Gaza and
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  Speaker 5: drive everybody out of the country, and that's really not
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  Speaker 5: a valid military objective.
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  Speaker 2: To the US.
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  Speaker 3: This weird between Sydney's Sweeney and Donald Trump. The white
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  Speaker 3: Lotus Stars My Jeans are Blue ad.
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  Speaker 2: For American Eagle.
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  Speaker 3: If you haven't seen it it's online, sparked a backlash
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  Speaker 3: over race and beauty standards. The brand says chill out.
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  Speaker 3: It's just about denim jeans. Trump's jumped in calling it
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  Speaker 3: the hottest ad out there.
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  Speaker 6: If Sydney Sweeney is a registered Republican, I think her
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  Speaker 6: ad is fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Branch and ex Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry.
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  Speaker 1: This winter news talk, sa'd.
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  Speaker 2: Be good morning, just gone eight after five.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't it funny when he goes after he's going after
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  Speaker 3: that poor woman who's running the labor or she's no
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  Speaker 3: longer running the labor Bureau of Statistics or whatever it
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  Speaker 3: is over in America. She puts out a report revises
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  Speaker 3: down as jobs numbers.
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  Speaker 2: You're fired. This poor woman.
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  Speaker 3: She looks like, you know, one of those sort of
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  Speaker 3: geeky bureaucratic types, just crossing her t's and dotting her eyes,
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  Speaker 3: minding her own business, doing her job, and then boomb,
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  Speaker 3: she's fired, been called a partisan hack. Now let's go
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  Speaker 3: to Israel. So this is really interesting. What's happening at
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  Speaker 3: the moment. There is a meeting of the Security Cabinet
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  Speaker 3: that's supposed to be happening keeps getting delayed. So the
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  Speaker 3: question is, what is Netna, Who's next play? He's losing
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  Speaker 3: favor with the Internet. No one's trusts him. Well, I
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  Speaker 3: mean America still does obviously, but in public opinion, you'd
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  Speaker 3: have to say, watching your six pm news and seeing
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  Speaker 3: the to be fair, the hostages too, who are frail
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  Speaker 3: and not clearly not eating, but also people in Palestinians
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  Speaker 3: in Gaza who are starving look to be starving. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the appetite for this continuing hasn't got much left to run,
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  Speaker 3: has it. So what's he going to do? That's the question.
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  Speaker 3: And he, apparently, along with his some of his government ministers,
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  Speaker 3: has been briefing the press over in Israel saying we
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  Speaker 3: are now seriously going to take over and occupy fully
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  Speaker 3: occupy Gaza. Senior military officials apparently are breaking ranks with this,
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  Speaker 3: saying well, actually, if you do that, then you put
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  Speaker 3: all of the hostages who are left still being held
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  Speaker 3: by Hamas, you basically consign them to death. There's a writer,
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  Speaker 3: this is for a local magazine, a military affairs commentated
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  Speaker 3: there who says hostages will die, large numbers of Israeli
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  Speaker 3: defense full soldiers will be killed, as well as a
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  Speaker 3: serious logistical problem for the Israelis. We're to house roughly
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  Speaker 3: a million civilians who are now in Gaza City. Currently,
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  Speaker 3: Israel simply doesn't have legitimacy either to continue to fight
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  Speaker 3: in Gaza or to establish a city of refugees on
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  Speaker 3: its ruins. So that's where we're at this morning and
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  Speaker 3: this meeting. Apparently there'll be a presser afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: Afterwards we will.
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  Speaker 3: Find out exactly what Netanyahu's thinking, and then we will
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  Speaker 3: wait for a response from the rest of them world.
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  Speaker 2: You know who's going to back that.
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  Speaker 3: Eleven after five News Talk SIB, we'll look at this
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  Speaker 3: marine and coastal areas at change coming. The government's moving
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  Speaker 3: forward with the changes despite what the Supreme Court ruling was.
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  Speaker 3: We'll look at that. Next news talk SeeDB.
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  Speaker 1: News and Views you trust. To start your day, it's
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  Speaker 1: Earliership with Ryan Bridge at x fol Insulation keeping Kiwi
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  Speaker 1: Holmes warm and dry.
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  Speaker 2: This winter News Talks B five thirteen.
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  Speaker 3: The Global dairy trade auction overnight up point seven percent,
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  Speaker 3: which is good, and whole milk powder, which is our
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  Speaker 3: big ticket item, up two point one percent, which is
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  Speaker 3: also good. Skim milk powder up point four percent. But
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  Speaker 3: you will be pleased to know dips a three point
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  Speaker 3: eight percent, and this comes after ainsaid yesterday. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know whether you saw this, but the commodity price index
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  Speaker 3: that they released this is for July over June fell
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  Speaker 3: one point eight percent. Dairy prices weighing on that we've
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  Speaker 3: had a couple of bad auctions over the last three while, however,
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  Speaker 3: they are still way above where they would normally be,
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  Speaker 3: in fact ten point seven percent. This is commodities generally
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  Speaker 3: ten point seven percent higher than a year ago, which
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  Speaker 3: is great in what's keeping things moving, keeping the lights on.
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  Speaker 3: Dairy price is often ease at this time of year
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  Speaker 3: because there's the new season production ramping up, spring coming,
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  Speaker 3: all of.
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  Speaker 2: That sort of stuff. So I'm not a bad result for.
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  Speaker 3: Us this morning, just gone fourteen after five, Bryan Bridge,
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  Speaker 3: we're back in the hot waters of the foreshore and
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  Speaker 3: seabed debate. The Government says it'll move ahead with changes
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  Speaker 3: to the Marine and Coastal Areas Acts as part of
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  Speaker 3: the coalition deal it has with New Zealand. First, we've
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  Speaker 3: spoken about this before. It follows the Supreme Court ruling
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  Speaker 3: which basically throughout the proposed changes in December last year.
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  Speaker 3: Harry Clatworthy is a barrister at Tamata Law and represented
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  Speaker 3: NATI to Whehi's foreshore and seabed claim at the High Court.
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  Speaker 3: And he's with me now, Hi, Harry, good to have
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  Speaker 3: you going.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: This is all about defining customary title, isn't it? Can
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  Speaker 3: you just cut to the chase with us what exactly
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  Speaker 3: is going on here?
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  Speaker 7: It is about defining customery title. Essentially, what the government
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  Speaker 7: has done through these amendments is make it harder for
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  Speaker 7: Marty to have their customery title recognized through the courts.
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  Speaker 3: And they're going to make sure that that stays. It
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  Speaker 3: stays that way, basically, aren't they?
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  Speaker 7: That's the plan. This new amendment will basically make the
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  Speaker 7: test harder for Marty groups, particularly Marty groups who who
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  Speaker 7: have areas of interest that are in higher areas of
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  Speaker 7: third party use. So Auckland Totonger areas with his development
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  Speaker 7: and there's a lot of third parties using their area.
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  Speaker 7: They're basically trying to make it so they don't pass
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  Speaker 7: the test to have customary title or customer rights awarded
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  Speaker 7: in those areas.
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  Speaker 3: Because you had to prove that you had continuous and
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  Speaker 3: exclusive use of an area since eighteen forty, basically didn't you.
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  Speaker 2: That was what Key.
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  Speaker 3: Brought in, and so that courts softened that slightly, which
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  Speaker 3: is what this government's got a problem with.
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  Speaker 7: No, so that still.
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  Speaker 8: Has to be proved.
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  Speaker 7: So continuous use and occupation without substantial interruption since eighteen forty,
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  Speaker 7: and really what that actually means is, you know, a
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  Speaker 7: massive legal gray area. Of course every group, there's of
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  Speaker 7: course some interruption to the use of the ocean by
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  Speaker 7: any group. What this new amendment has done is basically
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  Speaker 7: make it easier for the Crown to prove substantial interruption.
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  Speaker 7: So there's a lower bar for there to be substantial interruption,
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  Speaker 7: which basically extinguishes the customary title.
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  Speaker 3: How many actual cases do you think we could be affected?
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  Speaker 2: How many claims?
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  Speaker 7: It's hard to say. There's about two hundred claims out there,
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  Speaker 7: and so far nearly all of them have been successful. However,
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  Speaker 7: the areas and the really high developed parts of the
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  Speaker 7: country are yet to go all the way through five days,
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  Speaker 7: about halfway through, so I would say at least at
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  Speaker 7: least fifty or more are going to be affected by this,
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  Speaker 7: if not more. All of them will be affected, and
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  Speaker 7: all apart from the seven that have already been confirmed,
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  Speaker 7: so they'll be all right. But the rest of them
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  Speaker 7: are gonna have to either be reheard or meet this
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  Speaker 7: new and updated test. But that's hard to say before
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  Speaker 7: we get some decisions from judges because at the end
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  Speaker 7: of the day, they're the one to interpret the law.
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  Speaker 3: Harry, what do you get if you can prove customer title?
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  Speaker 3: What does that actually mean? Can you go and use
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  Speaker 3: the foreshore and c bed and no one else uses it?
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  Speaker 2: What does it mean?
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  Speaker 7: No? No, no, So look, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 7: as Mary, we say, you don't get, you don't get
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  Speaker 7: a whole hell of a lot. There's a big misconception
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  Speaker 7: and a lot of public fear around Mary going to
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  Speaker 7: stop people going to the beaches they're going to, you know,
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  Speaker 7: basically cut off that the ability of non Mardi to
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  Speaker 7: use the waner, which completely isn't true. There is all
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  Speaker 7: navigation excess and fishing is completely protected under MACA.
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  Speaker 8: Basically, what groups have the ability to do is.
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  Speaker 7: Turn down resource management consents. However, there's a big exception
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  Speaker 7: for accommodated activities, which is pretty much everything except basically
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  Speaker 7: private resource consents in the area. Mildy have the ability
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  Speaker 7: to veto.
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  Speaker 3: Those fascinating Harry, thank you, thank you for that. Appreciate
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  Speaker 3: you coming on the show this morning. It's Harry Clattworth,
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  Speaker 3: a barrister at Tamata Law, also represented NATI to where
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  Speaker 3: his foreshore and CBA claim at the High Court. So
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  Speaker 3: it's not like if you get customery title, you own
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  Speaker 3: the beach and everyone else can buger off.
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  Speaker 2: But it does.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's a significant pal. It's about to turn
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  Speaker 3: down or prevent a resource management consent from going ahead.
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  Speaker 3: So the government's basically moving to show this up the
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  Speaker 3: foreshore and cebe. They don't want to repeat of that.
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  Speaker 3: Will there be a big protest and pushback A he well.
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  Speaker 2: The Marti part to five. Marty is certainly talking about
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  Speaker 2: that in the last twenty four hours.
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  Speaker 3: Nineteen after five here on News Talks Here b next
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  Speaker 3: it's Ai marking your kids homework.
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  Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge on early edition with ex bowl insulation, keeping
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  Speaker 1: Kiwi Owes warm and try this winter News Talks a.
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  Speaker 2: B five twenty one.
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  Speaker 3: Dave says Ryan, it was John Key and Chrisphin Lason
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  Speaker 3: HR allowed Marty to contest the beaches and the foreshore
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  Speaker 3: and the sea beard open up a real can of worms. Ironically,
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  Speaker 3: Helen Clark wouldn't have had a bar of it. Yeah, Dave,
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  Speaker 3: you're right Helen Clark. Actually, we've got in touch with her.
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  Speaker 3: She's got something to say on it. We'll mention that
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  Speaker 3: later in the program. Right now, Education Minister Erica Stanford
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  Speaker 3: announcing that school exam marking will be aided by the
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  Speaker 3: use of AI, taking the responsibility away from teachers.
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  Speaker 2: Are we opening a can of worms here?
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  Speaker 3: Danny Biddingfield is a learning development and AI specialist at
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  Speaker 3: Cyclone Computer Company, joining us this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Danny, good morning, Oh, good morning, How are you good?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you? Would you trust AI to mark your kids exam?
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  Speaker 2: In a nutshell?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 9: Look, I do a lot of work with alongside teachers
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  Speaker 9: and businesses around the use of AI, and there's a
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  Speaker 9: lot of really great things that it can do to
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  Speaker 9: save us time. But I've got real concerns around transparency
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  Speaker 9: and around ethical use of AI, particularly the privacy area
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  Speaker 9: as well, and i just feel like using it to
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  Speaker 9: mark student work is really crossing a barrier that we
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  Speaker 9: don't want to go to.
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  Speaker 2: What's wrong with that?
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  Speaker 3: Because in my mind, I mean there's things like maths
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  Speaker 3: and science presumably be pretty straight up and down English.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe if there's a you know, an essay writing competition,
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  Speaker 3: it might not be as as workable, But what are
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  Speaker 3: the what's wrong with AI doing it?
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  Speaker 9: Well, the main problem I've got at the moment is
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  Speaker 9: that all the AI sort of tools that we're using
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  Speaker 9: are generally based on overseas data or overseas large language models,
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  Speaker 9: and the problem of that, of course is they're not
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  Speaker 9: based on anything to do with New Zealand. And New
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  Speaker 9: Zealand's a very unique country to buy multicultural situation. You know,
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  Speaker 9: obviously we've got the Treaty of White Tongue and so on,
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  Speaker 9: and all these things are not taken into consideration in
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  Speaker 9: the AI models that we're currently using, so you know,
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  Speaker 9: we'd have to look at developing our own models in
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  Speaker 9: here in Altiola to make them more suitable to the
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  Speaker 9: data that we're hoping to mark student work. And then
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  Speaker 9: there's the whole idea around transparency with students and things
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  Speaker 9: as well, which is just really really concerned.
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  Speaker 3: For me, things like maths and science, though nothing to
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  Speaker 3: do with the treaty, quite universal and same everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, no, I agree.
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  Speaker 9: There, but we're using tools right now you know, you
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  Speaker 9: can create forms and things on most Google and Microsoft
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  Speaker 9: tools that we use in schools that will just simply
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  Speaker 9: mark you know, kind of multi choice questions and things.
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  Speaker 9: That's fine, we don't need.
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  Speaker 2: AI for that.
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  Speaker 9: You know, where they're going to be using AI is
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  Speaker 9: for judging tools or judging assessments that, as you say,
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  Speaker 9: like essays and things that have a lot more complications
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  Speaker 9: within how you judge whether they are and achieved or
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  Speaker 9: a mirror or a past or whatever they're going to
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  Speaker 9: come up with within you marking systems.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Danny, interesting, appreciate your time this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Danny Beddingfield, Learning development and AI specialist a Cyclone computer
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  Speaker 3: company on Newstalk SB it is twenty four minutes after five.
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  Speaker 3: We'll have more on the NCAA in the marking and
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  Speaker 3: the Prime Minister using AI to help with his job.
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  Speaker 3: People aren't happy about that.
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  Speaker 1: All ahead the early edition Full the Show podcast on
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  Speaker 3: News talksb it is twenty six minutes after five. The
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  Speaker 3: future is here, ladies and gentlemen. AI is taking over.
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  Speaker 3: There's a team of robots kept alive in some giant
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  Speaker 3: warehouse with tons of electricity. Right now, whirring away, beavering
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  Speaker 3: away on the world's big problems. AI will soon be
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  Speaker 3: marking our students' exams, according to Erica Stanford, the Swedish
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  Speaker 3: Prime Minister, overnight, admitting he uses AI for a second
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  Speaker 3: opinion on running the country on a daily basis. AI
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  Speaker 3: architects are in high demand. They've been snapped up like hotcakes. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: Meta apparently offered an AI researcher to hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 3: million US dollars over four years. AI engineers are apparently
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  Speaker 3: paid upwards of two and a half million bucks a year.
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  Speaker 3: The big tech companies are investing billions. The efficiencies are real.
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  Speaker 3: AI is changing the world, one data center at a time.
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  Speaker 3: So the question for us what do we do about it.
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  Speaker 3: Some of the teachers are upset because they don't trust
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  Speaker 3: AI to mark exams, but really we shouldn't trust the teachers.
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  Speaker 3: According to the Ministry of Education, I've got no reason
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  Speaker 3: to disbelieve this AI is at least as good as,
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  Speaker 3: if not better than, teachers at getting stuff right. Awkward,
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  Speaker 3: there's some stuff so nuanced you will probably need humanized
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  Speaker 3: to be across it, but that would be the exception
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  Speaker 3: surely in marking NCAA exams, not the rule. As for
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  Speaker 3: the Swedish Prime Minister, he's copying flak for not being
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  Speaker 3: able to do his job without the help of a robot.
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  Speaker 3: But you still need to use judgment, don't you. You
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  Speaker 3: can't just punch into AI. Should I go to war
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  Speaker 3: tomorrow and then blindly follow? The answer? Is AI not
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  Speaker 3: the mental equivalent of a forklift, a tool, a machine
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  Speaker 3: doing the heavy lifting for our brains. We don't have
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  Speaker 3: problems with forklifts, do we. They're helpful, they're useful. The
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  Speaker 3: reality is it doesn't actually matter how we feel about
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  Speaker 3: AI and the moraled one thousand moral dilemmas that throws
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  Speaker 3: up like mobile phones, like the internet, smartphones and then
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  Speaker 3: social media. It's one of these phenomenon that takes over
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  Speaker 3: our lives, whether we like it or not. The best
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  Speaker 3: we can probably do is just get used to.
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  Speaker 2: It and get over it. Bread Rich, she talks. There'd
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  Speaker 2: be nine two nine two is the number to text. Ryan.
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  Speaker 3: Students are banned from using AI, but it's okay for teachers.
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  Speaker 3: Go figure, you know I do that is odd to me.
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  Speaker 3: That is odd to me, But you have I suppose
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  Speaker 3: you have to know. You have to know that young
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  Speaker 3: people are learning the basics. You have to know the
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  Speaker 3: basics before you can. You know, you need a foundation,
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  Speaker 3: you need.
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  Speaker 2: Some building blocks.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, bunch of this is slightly related, which I'll bring
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  Speaker 3: to you as we get back from News. But a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of politicians in Spain are in a big pile
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  Speaker 3: of hot water this morning because they've all been fudging
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: their cvs and some.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Of the stuff they've made up is just outrageous. We'll
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: look at that.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Also, latest property prices report from Coatality, our reporters around
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: the country and Gavin Gray in the UK with day
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: one of the one in one out Immigrant policy news
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: talk said.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: By the news you need this morning and the in
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: depth analysis earlier edition with Ryan Bridge and ex Bowl
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: insulation keeping Kiwi homes warm and dry this winter news
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Talk said b.
• 17:56
  Speaker 10: To see four minutes away from six year on News
• 18:05
  Speaker 10: Talks MB on.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: A Wednesday, and before six, we're going to hear about
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: the unemployment rate a lot today. It's meant to hit
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: five point three percent, but is that the peak? That's
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: what the government's telling us. What about labor market holding?
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: We asked that question before six this morning our UK
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: correspondent Gavin Grays with US Starmer's big plan to stop
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the migrant boats and crossing the Channel kicks off today,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: so we'll look at that if you are interested. Actually
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: there's two things I want to get across to you
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: this morning. One is about your house prices. The other
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: is about how many fish we got in the ocean.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: What's going to happen to them when Shane Jones is
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: finished as the fisheries minister, Minister for Oceans and Fisheries,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: so he has come out this morning just put out
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: a release, So making a couple of changes.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Main thing is to speed up.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: And simplify your cat You know when companies have a
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: sustainable catch limit so you can't go after this certain
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: type of species of fish. He's going to speed up
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: and simplify that process. Our exports are worth one and
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: a half billion year and he says this should mean
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: if there are more fish in the ocean of a
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: certain species, you will be able to catch more, and
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: when there are fewer, then you'll.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Be able to catch less. That's basically what he's saying.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Also, you know on the fishing boats, how you can
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: now will you now have to buy law have cameras
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: on board. He is going to exclude that footage from
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: the Official Information Act. He says, this is because you
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: want to protect Fish's privacy, so they will no.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Longer you will.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Any member of the public could have requested the footage, checked,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: the footage.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Played the footage.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: We could as a media outlet do the same no
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: longer under the changes being proposed by Shane Jones this morning,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: it is and I'll get to your property prices shortly
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: twenty two away from six o'clock, Ryan Bridge. Right, Let's
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: get to our reporters around the country and we start
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: in Toneedin this morning with Rosy Leishman. Rosy, good morning,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Good morning.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Now a man's.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Stretching two mayoralty bids across nearly a th kilometers of
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: the South Island.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Who is this man?
• 20:03
  Speaker 11: This is Andrew Clark, who has put his hat in
• 20:06
  Speaker 11: the ring to take over from his brother outgoing Invercargo
• 20:10
  Speaker 11: mayor Nobby Clark, who and he's also put his hand
• 20:13
  Speaker 11: up for the top job in his hometown of Tasman.
• 20:17
  Speaker 11: He's campaigning under different names in each district Andrew and
• 20:21
  Speaker 11: in Vicargo, and Maxwell and Tasman and Andrew says he
• 20:24
  Speaker 11: doesn't see an issue in the door bit, claiming that
• 20:27
  Speaker 11: he'd live in the southern city. He believes people should
• 20:30
  Speaker 11: be more open minded, saying it's more important about delivering
• 20:33
  Speaker 11: what the community wants.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Which community, Rosie, that's the question, isn't it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Do you think Do you think he thought no one
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: would realize it was him running for both because using
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: different names.
• 20:45
  Speaker 12: I don't know.
• 20:46
  Speaker 11: I think he's just sort of like, look, either works
• 20:48
  Speaker 11: for me, guys. I've promised that I'm king for YouTube.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: How's the weather in Dneda today, Rosie.
• 20:54
  Speaker 11: It's frosty this morning, but it's said to be fine
• 20:57
  Speaker 11: with a nice high cloud, light winds and a high
• 20:59
  Speaker 11: of twelve degrees.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Last one, you have a good day, Clears in christ Church,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: high clear, Good morning.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: North Canterbury residents expected to fill out the community halls.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: What's this about?
• 21:10
  Speaker 13: Yeah, this is in relation to this story about potential
• 21:12
  Speaker 13: changes to rural police stations in Canterbury. It's a story
• 21:16
  Speaker 13: that's been bubbling around for a few days now. As
• 21:18
  Speaker 13: we know, police have been consulting internally with their people
• 21:22
  Speaker 13: and that consultations due to open due to close rather
• 21:25
  Speaker 13: next week. They're looking at possibly reducing some personnel at
• 21:28
  Speaker 13: rural stations. Now, it's important to note that the overall
• 21:31
  Speaker 13: headcount isn't necessarily going to go down, but it will
• 21:34
  Speaker 13: mean that the police and where they are located changes,
• 21:37
  Speaker 13: so they'll move from some of those rural areas and
• 21:39
  Speaker 13: those sort of single cop stations to be operating from
• 21:42
  Speaker 13: twenty four seven hubs in the likes of Dungi Order
• 21:45
  Speaker 13: and Rolliston. Federated Farmers has been very vocal in opposition
• 21:49
  Speaker 13: to this. They're hosting some public meetings starting tonight in
• 21:53
  Speaker 13: Colvidin and Leiston. There's another one planned tomorrow at Hanmas Springs.
• 21:57
  Speaker 13: Hudnui District Councilor Tom Davies says are already stretched in
• 22:01
  Speaker 13: these areas. He says there is the fear that there
• 22:04
  Speaker 13: will be a shortage of staff or an inability to
• 22:07
  Speaker 13: cope with major issues as they happen.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: All right, how'se to weather? They're clear a bit.
• 22:11
  Speaker 13: Of fog about this morning, otherwise should clear to mainly
• 22:13
  Speaker 13: find with high cloud northeasterlies and a high of twelve.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Thank you Max and Wellington. Haymax, good morning, A job
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: well done for your Crown observer.
• 22:22
  Speaker 14: Apparently, Yeah, the Council's adult in the room these past
• 22:25
  Speaker 14: few months. Lindsay McKenzie wrapping up his stint as Crown Observer,
• 22:29
  Speaker 14: brought in by the government originally after a period of
• 22:32
  Speaker 14: turmoil at council relating to the long term plan. We've
• 22:35
  Speaker 14: seen his final report. I don't think it's published yet.
• 22:37
  Speaker 14: We've seen it a lot of praise for councilors coming
• 22:40
  Speaker 14: together on the budget on water investment, the next annual plan,
• 22:44
  Speaker 14: and some suggestions for how they deal with conflict in
• 22:47
  Speaker 14: the future and how these this sort of bickering impacts
• 22:51
  Speaker 14: everyone and impacts the city. We spoke to Local Government
• 22:54
  Speaker 14: Minister Simon Watts last night, very pleased with the process,
• 22:57
  Speaker 14: says further appointments will be made, would be made here
• 23:00
  Speaker 14: should things break down again and elsewhere. Not against using
• 23:04
  Speaker 14: a Crown observer in the future. Good value for money,
• 23:07
  Speaker 14: he believes, despite that thousand dollars a day salary also
• 23:10
  Speaker 14: worth mentioning. There is the first mayoral debate in Wellington tonight,
• 23:13
  Speaker 14: Andrew Little will be there, Ray Young will be there
• 23:16
  Speaker 14: and we will be there as well in case things
• 23:19
  Speaker 14: kick off.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Well, that's exciting. When where is it? Where are they
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: having it? Location.
• 23:23
  Speaker 14: I'm not exactly sure, but I am sending my reporter.
• 23:26
  Speaker 14: It starts at five point thirty.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, we have to change in. I'm sure he knows
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: where it is. Yeah, yeah, someone will. What's so where
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: they're doing mostly fine?
• 23:35
  Speaker 14: Fourteen the High Central?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Nice?
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Hey, Neva, Greetings, greetings, good morning. You've got
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: an update on Takapuna, France.
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: Joe.
• 23:42
  Speaker 15: He's a positive story.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 23:44
  Speaker 15: The Takapoona Business Association's revealed hospitality venues have had more
• 23:49
  Speaker 15: than ten percent increase in spending in June alone compared
• 23:53
  Speaker 15: to last year. Spending across retail and leisure also rowse
• 23:56
  Speaker 15: almost six percent in that same period. So the Association's CEO,
• 24:01
  Speaker 15: that's Terrence Harper. He says people are flocking over to
• 24:04
  Speaker 15: the new places making their mark, Like and I haven't
• 24:07
  Speaker 15: been there before, the Takapoona Surf Club.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: Have you been there?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: No, but I've heard. I've got friends who have been
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: there said it's great.
• 24:12
  Speaker 15: Yes, And there's a new rooftop bar there, very fancy,
• 24:16
  Speaker 15: very fancy. People are going there. So you know, he's
• 24:18
  Speaker 15: saying this is fantastic, a lot better than you know
• 24:22
  Speaker 15: some of the central areas of CBD in Auckland. So
• 24:25
  Speaker 15: the North Shore doing very very well for itself, are lovely.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Down there by the beach, there's a house and there's
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: a really rich, obviously really rich guy who's built a
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: massive house down there, and I just feel so sorry
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: for the people in the apartments behind him. Literally it's
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: a it's probably a fifteen meter high concrete wall. Oh really, Yes,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I imagine going from one of the most beautiful views
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: in the city, yes, to see the concrete wall. But
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I mean if you don't buy the rights to the
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: air in front of your home then that will happen.
• 24:53
  Speaker 15: My gosh, you burst my bubble for my positivity story.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: How's that with cloudy with the if you shower?
• 25:00
  Speaker 15: Sixteen is a high here in Auckland today.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: That's funny.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: That Good to see you as always. It is seventeen
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: minutes away from six News Talk CBB. We'll get to
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Gavin Gray and the UK next check out on checkout
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Starma's immigrant policy is at working?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Is it going to work?
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: And I will give you those numbers on your house
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: prices and your house values soon.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance. Peace of mind
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Spots being away from six News Talk TIB we'll get
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: to the unemployment number with Michael Gordon from West Pekin
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: just a second right now, Gavin Gray are UK europe
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: correspondent with us Kevin.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: This one and one out migrant deal between the UK
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: and France begins shortly. What are they saying about it?
• 25:39
  Speaker 12: Well, plenty of people skeptical it'll end in a positive
• 25:44
  Speaker 12: result that the number of people coming over to claim
• 25:47
  Speaker 12: asylum from the UK crossing the English Channel in small
• 25:50
  Speaker 12: boats illegally will drop. Others as saying that this isn't
• 25:55
  Speaker 12: going to work. It's a good idea, but it's not
• 25:57
  Speaker 12: gonna work. Why because we don't know right and how
• 26:00
  Speaker 12: many people the scheme applies to. There are theories and
• 26:03
  Speaker 12: reports that it might just be fifty to sixty each week.
• 26:08
  Speaker 12: Well at the moment, as of the thirtieth of July,
• 26:10
  Speaker 12: more than twenty five thousand people across the channel in
• 26:14
  Speaker 12: small boats so far this year, and that is up
• 26:17
  Speaker 12: nearly fifty percent at the same point than last year.
• 26:20
  Speaker 12: The scheme is this, some arriving tomorrow in the UK
• 26:24
  Speaker 12: on small boats will be detained and return to France.
• 26:27
  Speaker 12: In return, the UK will accept an equal number of
• 26:31
  Speaker 12: asylum seekers, but those who have not tried to cross
• 26:34
  Speaker 12: and can pass security and eligibility checks. The idea, of course,
• 26:39
  Speaker 12: is it's encouraging people not to cross. However, there are
• 26:43
  Speaker 12: lots of people stuck, as it were in northern France
• 26:46
  Speaker 12: who have made the horrendous journey from North Africa or
• 26:50
  Speaker 12: the Middle East, mostly in order to try to get
• 26:53
  Speaker 12: to the UK, and is this likely to put them off?
• 26:55
  Speaker 12: Well no, according to some. The Prime Minister, however, is
• 26:58
  Speaker 12: heralding it as a product the months have grown up
• 27:01
  Speaker 12: diplomacy that'll deliver real results. Others are saying it's unworkable
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: and wide open to abuse.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: What about the number? What are people saying about the number?
• 27:10
  Speaker 12: You know?
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Why isn't it one and a three out? You know?
• 27:13
  Speaker 12: Well's simply because France is unlikely to have accepted anything
• 27:18
  Speaker 12: like that. All this time they've said, you know, it's
• 27:21
  Speaker 12: the UK's fault and therefore if they're not claiming asylum
• 27:26
  Speaker 12: here then we just have to let them go sort
• 27:28
  Speaker 12: of thing. So, yeah, I don't think that would have
• 27:30
  Speaker 12: washed in France. How long this will go on for?
• 27:32
  Speaker 12: It's set to be an eleven month scheme, but let's
• 27:35
  Speaker 12: see how it goes on day one.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Kevin Great, appreciate your time this morning our UK. You're
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: a correspondent. Time now twelve away from six, Ryan Brie.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: We get another look into our job market today and
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't hold your brief if you're expecting good positive news.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Economists reck and unemployment set to hit five point three
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: percent highest and nine years, up from five point one
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: in the last quarter. Michael Gordon, WISPEC senior economists with
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: me this morning.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Michael, good morning, Good morning. Is this as bad as
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: it going to get?
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: I think we're getting towards the end of it, if
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: not necessarily there yet, because the labor market tends to
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: be one of the more lagging parts of the economic cycle.
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: Even as we've seen some signs of better activity this year,
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: it's taken we're not seeing the same a degree of
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: improvement come through in the jobs numbers. Yet we know
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: that hiring is pretty low at the moment, so it's
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: sort of hard to get people out of unemployment if
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: businesses aren't hiring at the moment. So we're thinking probably
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: the peak in the unemployment rate is either around here
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: or slightly higher, but maybe by the end of this
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: year early next year we should see some science of improvement.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, what about this idea of labor hoarding where people
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: firms are anticipating things will get better, so you hold
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: on to staff hope, you know, carry them over until
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: things get better. But actually things are taking a long
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: time to get better. So do those people get let
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: go in the meantime?
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: I think there is an element of that already happening.
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: It is again a part of that lagged aspect of
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: the cycle. But we did see I think, you know,
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: a couple of years ago, we were hearing from businesses
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: that they were sort of wearing of getting burnt by
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: the labor shortages that we had experienced relatively recently, and
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: we're trying to hold onto people. I think it was probably,
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: you know, that was the story up until about a
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: year ago. Since then we have seen that job shedding
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: going on. So again there's probably a bit of catch
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: up and still maybe some more to go there before
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: businesses really feel like they are their right size for
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: the amount of work that's on.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: And Michael, who is being made unemployed young people grads.
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: That has been the case, I think to it's an
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: unusual degree in this cycle. Again, going back to a
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: couple of years ago, there were a lot of young
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: people that were brought into the labor force when there
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: were really severe worker shortages. So it was a hot economy.
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: Border was closed so you couldn't get migrant workers, and
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: so a lot of people were actually who were already
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: in study were being brought into work as well. Now
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: we're seeing the reverse of that. A lot of these
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: people are you know, they're either out of work or
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: not able to find a job in the first place.
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: In many cases, they're just concentrating on their studies and
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: they're not counting towards the ranks of the actively unemployed.
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: They just get counted as not in the workforce.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Michael, does it feel like every time you talk to
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: one of us journos that you are saying it will
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: get better soon, it will peak, you know, and it's
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: going to peak soon, and it's going to be over soon,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: and it keeps getting dragged out.
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, there's definitely a cry of are we there yet?
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: That as we go on for a while. I mean,
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: a key part of managing the cycle really lies with
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: the reserve bank. They you know, they have done a
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: lot big part of their job in terms of lowering
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: interest rates. It's taking some time to feed through into
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: what borrowers are actually paying and then get hopefully sort
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: of freeing up some cash for them to do something with.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: We kind of knew it was going to be a
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: gradual pace, given that it's the timing of when people
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: would be able to move on to those lower interest rates.
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: But yeah, I can always feel very drawn out when
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: you're talking about something that you know, you know it's
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: going to take a year or so, and you're having
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: to talk about it every day.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I feel like you've summed it up perfectly there, Michael,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Michael Gordon WISPAC senior economists. That number out
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: this morning on unemployment just gone eight minutes away. No
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: matter what it is, you can beat your bottom dollar
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: that Christopher Luxon won't be firing the stats in's in
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: boss because he doesn't like the numbers. Well, never say never.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: We'll get your property values the latest numbers from Totality next,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: and Mike is here to start his show too. News
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: talksb the First Word on the News of the Day,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Early edition with Ryan Bridge and x fol Insulation, keeping
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: King we Holmes warm and dry.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: This winter news Talks dB.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Clicks away from six News Talks ZIBB. Property values in
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: New Zealand. Will you be surprised to hear that down
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: point two percent for July? This is cotality's latest home
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: value index, So annual drop was the same, down zero
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: point two percent. Median value nationally is now eight hundred
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: and nineteen pounds and dollars. It's all the usual stuff
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: we've spoken about, job weakness, loads of listings. At the
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: moment keeping prices down. Twenty twenty five, they were predicting
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: a five percent jump in your property values, now more
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: likely one to two percent, five to six. It contributes
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: to us all feeling a bit poorer and not going
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: out and spending, and then makes.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: The whole thing worse. Mike, good morning on that positive upbeat.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: I was just going to say, it wasn't yes yesterday's
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: best story was was Christa and her husband's shed?
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Wasn't it? I didn't see that?
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: Oh no, this is fantastic. So they which channel we changed?
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: It was not a channels, it's the news we've got
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: announced yesterday. So Christa and her husband they rang the
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: tip line for the government, right, so the government was
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: looking for tips on what to do around red tape
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: and bollocks in your backyard and building and stuff. So
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: it all ties and with it, you know how you
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: can build a granny flat and stuff with less paperwork
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: and yeah, except so anyway, yesterday's announcement was you can
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: now have a shed in your backyard. So the current
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: rule is that you need to be away from the
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: boundary as much as your shed is high. So if
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: your sheds two and a half meters high, you need
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: to be two and a half meters away from your boundary.
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  Speaker 2: Most people in.
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  Speaker 6: Smaller lots these days, I mean by the time you
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  Speaker 6: move two and a half meters away from your boundary,
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  Speaker 6: you're on the other side of the boundary, or.
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  Speaker 2: Your shared is so small you can't see hundred percent.
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  Speaker 6: So they changed the rule yesterday too. If you want
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  Speaker 6: to put it up against the fence, put it up
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  Speaker 6: against the fence. And they got that idea from Christa
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  Speaker 6: and her husband.
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  Speaker 2: Who did it.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, so technically we're breaking the rules. But I saw
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  Speaker 6: the pictures. They were quintessential Middle New Zealand. They were
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  Speaker 6: just getting on with life. They're not interested in all
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  Speaker 6: of frippery and bullshit that goes on around rules and
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: regulations and red tape. They'd just gone ahead and done it.
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  Speaker 6: David Seymour had seen it and thought, great idea, based
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  Speaker 6: on your idea, let's change the.
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  Speaker 2: Law, and saw them cutting a ribbon.
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  Speaker 6: That's exactly, that's exactly what it was, and they put
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  Speaker 6: them exactly, so they changed the law.
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  Speaker 8: Works.
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  Speaker 2: No, someone's answering the phone, and.
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  Speaker 6: Someone answers the phone and someone that's not a bad idea.
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  Speaker 6: The next thing you know, you've got a minister in
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  Speaker 6: your backyard cutting a ribbon. I mean, is that how
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: to run country? You sent to run exactly if you've
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  Speaker 6: built a shed risc oh sperspect.
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  Speaker 2: But good on them. That's great progress for Assurance c
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  Speaker 2: B this morning. Hey, a great day. Run to see tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: I don't away goes.
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  Speaker 6: I got to celebrate it.
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  Speaker 9: Just learn away.
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