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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the reading of the Washington Post for Tuesday,
- 0:04June twenty fourth, twenty twenty five. As a reminder, Radio
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- 0:15read printed material. Your reader for to day is Cindy Fraser.
- 0:20To day's front page headlines from the Washington Post are
- 0:24after retaliation, hope for cease fire, missiles fired at US
- 0:28base in Qatar, Trump claims agreement between Iran Israel. Next
- 0:35a warning to a top general, you have twelve hours
- 0:38to escape. Our next headline net Yahoo decided on strikes
- 0:43months ago. Officials say next, removals to third countries can
- 0:50go on. Supreme Court allows deportation policy while litigation continues.
- 0:56Our next headline, after years of service trans gender troops
- 1:00being forced out ten facing Trump's Administration's ban, agonized over
- 1:05the careers or on the brink of losing. And the
- 1:09final headline from today's front page in New York Cuomo
- 1:13finds many eager to offer second chance. Now, let's turn
- 1:17to our first item, entitled after retaliation, hope for ceasefire
- 1:23missiles fired at US base in Guitar. Trump claims agreement
- 1:28between Iran Israel by Kareem Fahim, Yagana Torbadi, Jerry She
- 1:35and Rachel Pannitt from Eastanbul. President Donald Trump claimed in
- 1:40a social media post Monday that Iran and Israel have
- 1:43agreed to a cease fire, hours after Iran fired missiles
- 1:47toward an American air base in Guitar, retaliating for U
- 1:51S strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities with a less than
- 1:55furious attack that caused no casualties. There was no immediate
- 1:59corroba announcement from the Israeli government. Iran's top diplomat said
- 2:05that Iran's military had halted its operations, but appeared to
- 2:09take issue with the framing of the U S announcement,
- 2:12writing on social media that there had been no agreement
- 2:15on ceasefire or cessation of military operations. Trump's announcement followed
- 2:21a streak of social media posts in which he thanked
- 2:24Iran for quote giving US early notice on the missile attack,
- 2:28while also calling it a very weak response. A day earlier,
- 2:33he floated the possibility of regime change in Iran, prompting
- 2:37White House officials to later explain that the official U
- 2:41S posture that he did not strike the Iranian nuclear
- 2:44sides to bring about a regime change had not changed.
- 2:48With no coordinated statements from Iran in Israel, the contours
- 2:52of what was agreed on were not fully clear. In
- 2:55posts to social media, Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Agraci wrote
- 3:00that Iran's military stopped its efforts to punish Israel at
- 3:04four a m. Local time, but said that Israel must
- 3:08do the same. The final decision on the cessation of
- 3:12our military operations will be made later. Agratchi wrote. Trump's
- 3:17original announcement had called for the cease fire to be
- 3:20phased in, with Iran halting attacks first and Israel following
- 3:25twelve hours later. After a further twelve hours, Trump wrote,
- 3:29the war will be considered ended. Iran's armed forces hailed
- 3:34the assault on Aludid Air Base on Monday as decisive.
- 3:39Ann said it sent a message that the country would
- 3:41answer any aggression. Gatar condemned the attack, calling it a
- 3:46flagrant violation of sovereignty, and said the missiles were intercepted.
- 3:51Several Persian Gulf states closed their airspace after the attack,
- 3:54amid uncertainty about whether more would follow, but Iran had
- 3:59given numerous its public warnings that it intended to retaliate
- 4:02against US bases in the region, and there were several
- 4:06signs that a telegraph the strike on the air base
- 4:08more directly in advance. Hours before, the United States and
- 4:13Britain issued warnings telling their citizens to shelter in place,
- 4:17and Qatar closed the airspace above its country. US defense
- 4:21officials said there were no American casualties in the attack
- 4:25on Aludid, which involved short and medium range ballistic missiles
- 4:29fired from Iran. It remained to be seen whether Monday's
- 4:33events would in fact provide Washington and Tehran and off
- 4:37ramped from their intensifying confrontation. After the country's initial Bellico statements,
- 4:43iran Supreme National Security Council framed the attack as limited
- 4:47and proportional, saying it had used the same number of
- 4:51munitions the United States had deployed against Iran over the
- 4:54weekend and targeted a bays far from urban facilities and
- 4:58residential areas in Guitar. According to the Tasanine News Agency,
- 5:04Trump also seemed to damplay the attack. Iran has officially
- 5:08responded to our obliteration of the nuclear facilities with a
- 5:12very weak response, which we expected, he wrote, I am
- 5:15pleased to report that no Americans were harmed and hardly
- 5:19any damage was done. Most importantly, they've gotten it all
- 5:23out of their system and there will hopefully be no
- 5:26further hate writing on too social Later Monday, Trump said
- 5:31Iran and Israel had agreed to a complete and total
- 5:34cease fire, which would begin when Israel and Iran have
- 5:38wound down and completed their in progress final missions. Officially,
- 5:42Iran will start the cease fire, and upon the twelfth hour,
- 5:46Israel will slog the sea's fire, and upon the twenty
- 5:49fourth hour, an official end to the twelve day war
- 5:52will be saluted by the world, he added. A senior
- 5:56US official said the blueprint from monday ceasefire agreement came
- 6:00from discussions with Iranian officials, who made it clear to
- 6:03the Trump administration that they would come back to the
- 6:06negotiating table and discuss their nuclear program on the condition
- 6:10that Israel stops bombing them. That required the United States
- 6:14to secure agreement from Israeli Prime Minister and Benjamin nat
- 6:17Nyahou to halt his bombing campaign. The official said, an
- 6:22onslaught that is wreak havoc on Iran's missile defenses. The
- 6:26official spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive
- 6:29diplomatic matters. Netniahu's office did not immediately respond to a
- 6:34request for comment. A senior White House official, speaking on
- 6:38the condition of anonymity to brief the media, said the
- 6:41Vice President J. D Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
- 6:45and Special Envoy Steve Whitcock had communicated with the Iranians
- 6:49through direct and indirect channels. Trump had also thanked the
- 6:53Emir Qatar for his country's efforts to broke her peace.
- 6:56The official said. Ahead of Trump's sea fire announcement, there
- 7:01had been no let up in the war between Israel
- 7:03and Iran. An Iranian missile attack against Israel early in
- 7:07the day sparked panic but caused no casualties. Later, Israel
- 7:12carried out what it said were its most extensive strikes
- 7:15yet against the Iranian capital, broadening its targets beyond nuclear
- 7:20and ballistic missile sites and hitting security forces critical to
- 7:24the survival of the government in Tehran. The targets included
- 7:28command centers and assets belonging to the Iranian regime's internal
- 7:32security apparatus, as well as in prison, where thousands of
- 7:36political prisoners are held, and Israeli military spokesman said. Israel
- 7:41also struck the entrances to the ford Own nuclear enrichment facility,
- 7:45according to Iranian and Israeli officials, aiming to prevent the
- 7:49transfer of materials from the site. And Israeli officials said
- 7:53the decision to widen the target list, including by attacking
- 7:57the headquarters of the Bajij, a volunteer paramilitary force the
- 8:01government uses to repress dissent, was the latest sign of
- 8:05Israel's effort to destabilize or topple Iran's clerical leadership. Israeli
- 8:10officials have said regime change is not an objective of
- 8:13their campaign, while simultaneously encouraging Iranians to rise up against
- 8:18their increasingly battered government. We believe that there is an
- 8:23opportunity now for them to throw off the fear which
- 8:26has been hoisted upon them by the Iranian regime, said
- 8:29David Menzer, an Israeli government spokesman. Israel had commenced its
- 8:34attack on Iran earlier this month by killing a top
- 8:37echelon of Iranian commanders and degrading the nuclear and ballistic
- 8:42missile programs. Setting the table for the USB two bomber
- 8:45strike on three facilities over the weekend. Net Nyahu said
- 8:49Sunday that Israel was very very close to completing its
- 8:53goal of eliminating two concrete threats to our existence, the
- 8:57nuclear threat the ballistic missile threat. But on Monday, the
- 9:02Israel Defense Forces released his statement saying it would continue
- 9:06to bomb Tehran in the coming days, while ordering residents
- 9:09to avoid weapons production centers, military basis, and security institutions
- 9:15affiliated with the regime. The shift in Israeli targeting came
- 9:19amid uncertainty about whether it had achieved one of its
- 9:23main objectives, the destruction of Iran's nuclear program, given a
- 9:27lack of clarity about what had become of its stockpile
- 9:30of highly enriched uranium after the U S attacks. Seed Alivaiz,
- 9:35the Iran Project director at the International Crisis Group, when
- 9:39it came to regime destabilization, the expectation that Iranians would
- 9:44rise up in protest of the government during the Israeli
- 9:47strikes represented magical thinking. He added, there has not been
- 9:52a single protest against the regime and Israel's targeting of
- 9:57a then prison where dissidents a among them, the best
- 10:01of the best Iranian activists were locked up, where their
- 10:04families now fearing for their lives was indicative of Israel's
- 10:08short sighted strategy, he said. Jonathan Pennakoff, a former senior
- 10:13intelligence official overseeing the Middle East during the previous Trump administration,
- 10:17said the Israeli attack on the prison certainly sends a
- 10:21message to the regime that it should not feel secure
- 10:24and stable, and implicitly also reflects a clear willingness of
- 10:28Prime Minister Netnyahu to engage in Mission Creek. But I
- 10:33don't know if it actually made a decision that regime
- 10:36change is now an actual strategic objective, he added. Israel
- 10:41said it hit of In prison with a precision strike.
- 10:44The Center for Human Rights and Iran, which frequently reports
- 10:48on government violations, said in his statement that the strike
- 10:51caused severe damage to critical areas, including the women's ward,
- 10:56Ward eight, the infirmary, and the Prosecutor's office. Prisoners, among
- 11:02them women and children under two years old, are trapped
- 11:05without access to medical care, safe shelter, or essential services,
- 11:09the group said, adding that Iranian authorities were refusing to
- 11:14transfer the injured to hospitals and are blocking families from
- 11:17reaching their loved ones. Instead of facilitating rescue and medical aid,
- 11:22Iranian security forces have intensified repression inside the prison, threatening
- 11:27and attacking injured detainees. Unconfirmed reports of secret prisoner transfers
- 11:33are raising fears of enforced disappearances, the statement added. Hakmand Gadiani,
- 11:39the son of political prisoner Abafasilgadiani, who was held inside it,
- 11:43then said on x that his father told him in
- 11:47a phone call that all the windows in the ward
- 11:49have been broken, and he believed there was damage to
- 11:52the complex's health facility and the prison door. Israel said
- 11:56it strikes Monday hit the Revolutionary Guards Zerlak Command Center,
- 12:01which is charged with securing Tehran and its surrounding area
- 12:04in times of civil unrest and is considered one of
- 12:08the Guard's most important component parts. Its forces arrest, interrogate,
- 12:13and beat dissidents. Israel also said it struck the headquarters
- 12:18of the Basiege, which Iranians and human rights groups have
- 12:21accused of a wide array of rights violations, including beating
- 12:26peaceful demonstrators and shooting into crowds. The besiege have branches
- 12:31across an array of Iranian institutions, including universities, schools and workplaces.
- 12:38The Israeli military also said it struck six airports across
- 12:41Iran and damaged runways, underground bunkers, and older generation fighter jets,
- 12:47including at fourteens. An Israeli military official, speaking on the
- 12:51condition of anonymity to discuss ongoing military operations, acknowledged that
- 12:56these older jets did not pose a significant threat to
- 12:59Israel's mind modern fighters, but he said Israel wanted to
- 13:03not just set back around nuclear and ballistic missile programs,
- 13:07but also degrade its military capabilities. There is still a
- 13:11regime that can still pose some threats, the official said.
- 13:15Torbadi reported from Washington, She from Jerusalem, and Pennette from Wellington,
- 13:20New Zealand. Leorsaroka in Tel Aviv, Abbe Cheeseman in Beirut,
- 13:25and Adam Taylor, John Hudson, Alex Horton, Angioralana Armandez and
- 13:31Karen de Young in Washington contributed to this report. Next
- 13:36is an item entitled a warning to a top general
- 13:40you have twelve hours to escape by Warren P. Struble,
- 13:44Sawad mckenneth, and Yegeney Torbati. In the hours after Israel
- 13:50launched its first wave of strikes against Iran on June thirteenth,
- 13:53killing top military leaders and nuclear scientists. Israeli intelligence operatives
- 13:58launched a covert camp to intimidate senior officials with the
- 14:02apparent aim of dividing and destabilizing Tran's theocratic regime. According
- 14:07to three people familiar with the operation, people working for
- 14:12israel security services who speak Persian, Iran's primary language, called
- 14:16senior Iranian officials on their cell phones and warned them
- 14:20that they too would die unless they cease supporting the
- 14:23regime of Iotola Ali Khamani, iran supreme leader. According to
- 14:28the three people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity
- 14:31to discuss clandestine operations, one of them estimated that more
- 14:36than twenty Iranians and positions of power were contacted. The
- 14:40Washington Post obtained an audio recording and transcript of one
- 14:44such call, which took place the same day, June thirteenth,
- 14:47that Israel began its bombardment of Iran. I can advise
- 14:52you now. You have twelve hours to escape with your
- 14:55wife and child. Otherwise you're on our list right now,
- 14:59an Israelian telligence operative told a senior Iranian general close
- 15:03to the country's rulers. According to the audio recording. The
- 15:07operative then suggested that Israel could train weapons on the
- 15:10general and his family at any moment. We're closer to
- 15:14you than your own neck. Veane, put this in your head.
- 15:17May God protect you, he said. The general, a member
- 15:21of Iran's powerful Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, was told he
- 15:25had twelve hours to make a video disassociating himself from
- 15:29the Iranian government. How should I send it to you?
- 15:32The general replies, I will send you a telegram ideed,
- 15:36the operative says, referring to the telegram messaging app, send it.
- 15:41It is unclear whether such a video was made or sent.
- 15:44The general is believed to be still alive and in Iran,
- 15:47said one of the people familiar with the operation, But
- 15:50the primary goal of the operation was to deter and
- 15:54confuse that Hahran leadership, a second person said Israeli Prime
- 15:59Minister Benjamin neh Ya, whose office did not reply to
- 16:02a request for comment. The audio recording and an English
- 16:06language transcript were made available by an Israeli individual who
- 16:09obtained the material and shared it with the Post, along
- 16:12with the description of a second such call to another
- 16:15senior Iranian official close to Khamenie. The Post prepared its
- 16:20own English language transcript of the nearly four minute audio
- 16:23recording of the conversation, which was conducted in Persian. The
- 16:28individual who provided the recording said the content of the
- 16:31audio was not manipulated in any way other than to
- 16:35mask the voice of the Israeli intelligence operative to protect
- 16:38his identity. The Post obtained the Iranian general's name, but
- 16:42is not publishing it and has removed his voice from
- 16:45the recording to conceal his identity. The phone calls to
- 16:49top Iranian military and security figures were one note of
- 16:53what Israeli security officials have described as a broad covert
- 16:57action campaign that complimented is Israel's military assault of nuclear sites,
- 17:02weapons production facilities, and missile launchers. The overall operation, dubbed
- 17:08Rising Lion by the Israeli government, relied on the activation
- 17:12of clandestine intelligence teams, prepositioned weapons caches, and other capabilities
- 17:18that had lain dormant inside Iranian territory for weeks or
- 17:21even months, Israeli officials said. Net Nyahu said, Israel launched
- 17:26the Surprise operation now in its second week, to prevent
- 17:30Iran from building a nuclear weapon. The Israeli government said
- 17:34that in recent months, Iran was getting closer to being
- 17:37able to turn its stockpile of enriched uranium into a
- 17:41nuclear weapon. Israel has offered no new, detailed evidence of
- 17:45Iran's nuclear weapons ambitions or weaponization efforts. Current and former
- 17:51US officials said that while they have intelligence that Iran
- 17:54was researching techniques that would allow it to build a
- 17:57crude nuclear device quickly if it chose to, there was
- 18:00no sign it had made a decision to acquire an
- 18:03atomic bomb. President Donald Trump ordered a multi pronged attack
- 18:08on Iran's nuclear sites this weekend, using earth penetrating ordinance
- 18:13dropped from B two Spirit bombers and Tomahawk cruise missiles
- 18:16launched from submarines. The weapons struck the deeply buried uranium
- 18:21and Richmond facility at Fordo, as well as nuclear sides
- 18:24at Antanz and Ishahan. Top Pentagon officials said the three
- 18:29sides suffered severe damage, but added that it was too
- 18:33soon to say whether Iran retained some nuclear capability. The
- 18:38U s military strikes came eight days after Israel launched
- 18:41its assault on Iran in the opening hours of Israel's attack,
- 18:46members of Kamanese inner circle and top figures in Iran's
- 18:49nuclear brain trust were killed, in some cases apparent casualties
- 18:53of explosives, packed drones or other devices that blew holes
- 18:57in the sides of apartment high rises and other structures
- 19:00in central Tehran. According to Israelian western security officials, as
- 19:05well as regime statements unknown casualties. Those targeted and believed
- 19:10killed included Major General Jossin Salomi, commander of the IRGC,
- 19:16Major General Mohammad Bakheri, and IRGC veteran who was the
- 19:20chief of staff of Iran's armed forces, and Veria dun
- 19:24Abbasi d'avani, a nuclear physicist and major figure in Iran's
- 19:28nuclear development. The Israeli operator that emphasized those assassinations in
- 19:33his phone call to the Iraignian general, I'll explain to
- 19:36you listen carefully on calling from a country that two
- 19:40hours ago sent Bakheri, Salami, Shanghmankhani one by one to Hell,
- 19:46the operative tells a general. The operatist's list of the
- 19:50dead include Vice Admiral Ali Shamkhani, the former head of
- 19:54iran Supreme National Security Council, Iranian media reported last week
- 19:58that Shamkhani was seriously injured, had survived in Israeli attack
- 20:03and sent a message to Kamani promising that the dawn
- 20:06of victory is near where Iran Israel hash on before
- 20:11that it has the ability to conduct targeted assassinations in Tehran.
- 20:15In July, it killed the leader of ramas Ismaeil Hanaiye,
- 20:20using an explosive device smuggled inside the state run guest
- 20:23house where Haniye was staying in the Iranian capital. The
- 20:27covert intimidation campaign against key Iranian figures who survived or
- 20:32were not targeted in the initial round of Israeli strikes
- 20:36involved several of Israel's security and military agencies, and was
- 20:40aimed at striking fear into second and third tier figures.
- 20:44According to two of the people familiar with the operation,
- 20:48the goal was to make it harder for Khamani, who
- 20:50controls Araan's national security policy, to fill the positions of
- 20:54those Israel killed, the second tier leadership that is supposed
- 20:58to inherit the positions and now feel in those places
- 21:01of those who have been eliminated, they are terrified, said
- 21:05one of the people familiar with the operation. And they
- 21:07are being reminded on a personal level about what happened
- 21:11to the successor of Nazralla and the successors of Hesbolah
- 21:15commanders who were eliminated as well. The official referred to
- 21:19Hassan Nozrala, the leader of Iranian backed Hezbolah in Lebanon,
- 21:23whom Israel assassinated in an air strike in September. Israel
- 21:27later killed Nozraala's likely successor, Kamenee, is facing serious difficulties
- 21:33to nominate successors for the positions of officials that were
- 21:36eliminated in the operation, the official said, and even if
- 21:40he succeeds to do so, these are people he didn't
- 21:44choose in the first place, because the more serious ones
- 21:47are refusing to take the positions now. Western security officials
- 21:51say they have not seen indications of defections among high
- 21:55ranking members of Iran's military or the IRGC. The Israeli
- 22:00officials said that some senior Iranian figures received a warning
- 22:04letter under their door, some received a phone call directly,
- 22:08and others were contacted via their spouses. They fully understand
- 22:12that they are transparent and known to us, and that
- 22:15our intelligence penetration is one hundred percent. Some of the
- 22:19senior Iranian officials have been contacted several times, resulting in
- 22:23a dialog between them and Israeli intelligence. One of the
- 22:27people familiar with the operations, said Greg Miller in London.
- 22:31Contributed to this report video and audio editing by Zoann
- 22:35Murphy and hoijun Kin next. Net Yahoo decided on strikes
- 22:42months ago, officials said by Jerry she Warren P. Struble
- 22:47and Sawad mc kenneth from Jerusalem. In the fall, long
- 22:52before President Donald Trump embarked on an effort to resolve
- 22:55concerns over Iran's nuclear program through negotiations, Prime Minister Benjamin
- 23:00Netnyahoo had already set Israel on the road to war,
- 23:04according to current and former Israeli officials, After Israel decimated
- 23:09Iran's air defenses in a missile skirmish and crippled its
- 23:12main ally Hasbolat in October, nen Yahoo issued a general
- 23:17order to prepare for a strike, The current and former
- 23:20officials said. Israeli intelligence officials began huddling to compile lists
- 23:25of dozens of Iranian nuclear scientists and military leaders who
- 23:29could be targeted for assassination. Israel's air force began to
- 23:33systematically take out air defenses in Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq
- 23:38to clear the skies for future bombing runs against Iran. Meanwhile,
- 23:43Israeli officials were pursuing another track in their preparations to
- 23:47sway Washington. Israeli officials had long believed that military action
- 23:52with US participation to target the Iranian nuclear program would
- 23:56be more effective than Israel going alone. On Saturday, Trump
- 24:01indeed joined the conflict, ordering U S forces, including B
- 24:05two strategic bombers, to strike three Iranian nuclear sites. Throughout
- 24:11the fall. The Israelis had met with their Biden administration
- 24:14counterparts to discuss intelligence collected by both countries in the
- 24:18summer that showed Iranian nuclear scientists were gathering to resume
- 24:22theoretical research on weaponization, according to three people with knowledge
- 24:26of the matter, but U S intelligence analysts did not
- 24:30conclude that the Iranian leadership had made such a decision,
- 24:34an assessment U S by agencies revisited and maintained throughout
- 24:38the spring under the new Trump administration and up until
- 24:42the time Israel launch strikes, said five people familiar with
- 24:46the conclusions in private conversations. However, senior Israeli government officials
- 24:52said they had already decided by March, weeks before Annett
- 24:56Yahoo met Trump and the Oval Office on April seventh,
- 25:00to strike Iran with or without US participation by June
- 25:05at the latest, said two people with knowledge of the matter.
- 25:09The reasoning was that Iran would have rebuilt its air
- 25:11defenses by the latter half of the year, one of
- 25:14the people said. Ultimately, when net Nyahu finally launched his
- 25:19surprise attack on Iran in the early hours of June thirteenth,
- 25:23while Trump's negotiations were still under way, the decision was
- 25:27not so much driven by new intelligence indicating an Iranian
- 25:30sprint for a nuclear weapon or any eminent threat to Israel. Rather,
- 25:36Israel seized on what it saw as a unique opportunity
- 25:39to execute plans carefully laid months and years in advance
- 25:44to heavily damage a weakened Iran that had long waged
- 25:47a bloody proxy conflict with Israel, and to set back
- 25:51Iranian nuclear and missile programs. Israeli and U s officials
- 25:55and advisers to both governments say whether or not net Yahu,
- 26:00who had enough evidence of Iranian progress toward a nuclear
- 26:03weapon to justify an attack has been the subject of
- 26:06intense debate globally and raises questions about the strike's permissibility
- 26:11under international law. In recent days, the issue has appeared
- 26:15to generate friction inside the US administration, with Trump repeatedly
- 26:20dismissing the assessment delivered in March by Director of National
- 26:23Intelligence Tulsey Gabbard that Iran's leadership has not ordered the
- 26:28development of a nuclear weapon, and telling reporters that he
- 26:31personally believed that Iran was very close to a bomb.
- 26:35Net Yahoo, who has argued for decades that Iran was
- 26:39on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons and should be
- 26:41halted by military strikes, has acknowledged in recent interviews that
- 26:46Iran was still months or a year away from a weapon.
- 26:50What was undisputed, he has said, was that Iran had
- 26:53enriched large amounts of Uranian to a level well beyond
- 26:57what is required for civilian use, and built up a
- 27:00dangerous arsenal of ballistic missiles. Israel's calculus for attacking Iran
- 27:06was driven by a sense of both opportunity and necessity,
- 27:10said an Israeli official, who, like many others quoted in
- 27:14this article, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss
- 27:17internal deliberations. It is true, there was no better time.
- 27:22Israelis have never been more well practiced, and Iran and
- 27:26their proxies have never been weaker, said the Israeli official.
- 27:30But that's not enough for us to operate. The reason
- 27:33we operated is necessity and understanding. There is no alternative.
- 27:38What if they break out toward a nuclear weapon and
- 27:41there is no way for us to notice? There is
- 27:43no safety zone left. US intelligence agencies, beginning late last
- 27:48year picked up on Israeli preparations for an attack and
- 27:52warned Washington policy makers that Israel was likely to strike
- 27:56in the first six months of twenty twenty five, but
- 28:01Namiyahu's plan was unexpectedly delayed when he was summoned to
- 28:05Washington to meet Trump and told that the United States
- 28:08would enter direct negotiations with Iran to solve the problem diplomatically.
- 28:13The Prime Minister's strong inclination to strike, however, remained unchanged,
- 28:18said a person with knowledge of the thinking of top
- 28:21Israeli officials. Going into the spring. There was also concern
- 28:26among Israeli officials that any potential deal between Trump Envoy
- 28:30Steve Whitcock and Iran would still allow Iran to eventually
- 28:34possess a bomb, an Israeli official added, and a former
- 28:39senior Israeli official said these Raelis had been anticipating the
- 28:43scheduled retirement of General Michael E. Krilla, the U S
- 28:47Central Command chief, who had helped make war plans with
- 28:50Israel throughout the spring. In an interview Tuesday with pro
- 28:54government Channel fourteen television, Netanyahu said that he had decided
- 28:59on the exact timing of the strike only two weeks earlier,
- 29:03but that he had made the difficult decision to carry
- 29:06out the operation several months ago and began flushing out
- 29:10the plan and its element of surprise in April. The
- 29:14key was to eliminate the nuclear experts, Netnyahu said, those
- 29:19were my instructions. Were going after the scientists take them out.
- 29:24In Israel, the majority of the security establishment and political
- 29:27parties have supported Netanyahu's decision to execute what they consider
- 29:32a preventive strike. For decades, a bedrock of Israeli strategic
- 29:37thinking has been the Began doctrine, named after former Prime
- 29:41Minister Marchem Begen, who defended Israel's nineteen eighty one bombing
- 29:45of the ossyric nuclear reactor in Iraq as anticipatory self
- 29:50defense against the potential enemy making a weapon of mass destruction.
- 29:55But a minority of those have questioned the wisdom of
- 29:59carrying out as prize attack while TROMP was still pursuing
- 30:02a diplomatic rap and they say without proofs that the
- 30:07Iranians had decided to construct a nuclear weapon, we should
- 30:11have given the political rout chance, said Danny Satrinovitch, a
- 30:15former head of the Iran desk in the Research Department
- 30:18of Israeli Military Intelligence. Now we got operational achievements, but
- 30:23the risks are enormous. We've never fought with a country
- 30:27like Erran. We find ourselves not knowing where the highly
- 30:31enriched uranium or centrifuges are. If we had an agreement,
- 30:35we would at least have less unknowns. Since Trump pulled
- 30:39out of the Obama era nuclear deal with Iran in
- 30:42twenty eighteen, Iran has sharply increased its stockpile of near
- 30:46weapons grade enriched uranium, according to the International Atomic Energy Agency,
- 30:52but intelligence agencies have debated whether Iran has resumed its
- 30:56effort to build a weapon known as Project Ahmad that
- 31:00was halted by Iyotola Ali Kamani, a reigned Supreme leader
- 31:04in two thousand three. Last year, U S intelligence officials,
- 31:09including CIA Director William J. Burns, reviewed new intelligence and
- 31:14concluded that Iranian scientists were revisiting previously suspended nuclear weapons research,
- 31:20exploring pasts that could allow them to more quickly make
- 31:24the leap to a crude nuclear bomb if Kamanie so chose.
- 31:29Three people familiar with the matter, said Israeli officials then
- 31:33came to the same realization. But U S Intelligence officials
- 31:37did not conclude that Khamani had changed his stands and
- 31:41sanctioned a bomb, said former U S and Israeli officials
- 31:44with knowledge of the matter. We knew they could speed
- 31:47up their timeline if they decided to change course, A
- 31:50former senior US official said. The Israelis were more alarmed.
- 31:55The main difference between US and Israeli views was tactical
- 31:59and not substantial, said a senior Israeli officials. We did
- 32:03see that Iran was advancing with a project, the Israeli
- 32:06officials added. It was unlike Iran had a timeline, but
- 32:10the route that they had chosen was very concerning and dangerous,
- 32:14and some of the experts here had huge concerns. Jacob Noguel,
- 32:19a long time adviser to Netanyahu on Iranian nuclear issues
- 32:23and a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies,
- 32:27said Iranian scientists were working in academic settings, and there
- 32:31was never a smoking gun showing they had broken new
- 32:34ground on aspects of weaponization that were prohibited under the
- 32:38twenty fifteen Nuclear Agreement, such as a multi point detonation
- 32:42device used to trigger a nuclear explosion. But they were
- 32:46conducting research seemingly surreptitiously on topics that were difficult to
- 32:50justify as having only civilian applications, Neguel said. He added
- 32:55that Khamani probably knew what they were doing. At one point,
- 33:00the Biden administration asked Ron about the scientist's activities, but
- 33:04the scientists carried on, which further fueled Israeli suspicions going
- 33:08into the spring, Nagel and another Israeli official said, as
- 33:13Israeli officials geared up in recent months to strike, while
- 33:16hoping the US would join, Israel made another push with
- 33:20the Trump administration as part of regular intelligence sharing, US
- 33:25intelligence officials did not see anything startlingly new, According to
- 33:29two people with knowledge of the matter, but Israeli officials
- 33:33believed intelligence showed the scientists were revisiting studies in several
- 33:37alarming areas, including the multi point detonation device, the production
- 33:42of plastic explosives, and experiments on neutron radiation. According to
- 33:47one person who was briefed by Israeli officials in recent weeks,
- 33:51Israeli officials acknowledged that they still assessed Kamani had not
- 33:55ordered the production of a nuclear weapon, the person said, adding,
- 34:00I don't believe the Israeli intelligence community shaded their intel
- 34:04for political purposes, but I do believe in netnyahou taking
- 34:08the inch and running a mile with it. In Washington,
- 34:12Trump came to believe that Iran was striving for a bomb,
- 34:15going beyond what Annalis in his own intelligence agencies concluded.
- 34:20His c i A chief John Ratcliffe, argued that the
- 34:23assessment dating back to two thousand seven that Commony had
- 34:27not ordered construction of a nuclear weapon was of limited value,
- 34:31said two people familiar with Rackless views. Ran he said,
- 34:35was like a football team that had gone ninety nine
- 34:37yards down the field and there was no way it
- 34:40would not try for a nuclear touchdown. Era Levit, a
- 34:45former senior Israeli national security official overseeing arms control, said
- 34:50it was reasonable to reach different analytical conclusions while working
- 34:54from the same set of collected intelligence. This is really
- 34:57hair splitting, said Levite, who was now at the Carnegie
- 35:01Endowment for International Peace. You haven't seen them packaging the warhead,
- 35:06but you've seen them working on shortening the period it
- 35:08would take to put it together and drive their threshold
- 35:11status to the extreme proximity to nuclear weapons. Does that
- 35:15reflect a decision was already made by the Supreme leader
- 35:18of let's go there, or was it merely raising preparedness
- 35:22to do so. It leaves things in the realm of interpretation.
- 35:26Richard Nephew, a lead US negotiator with Iran under the
- 35:30Obama administration, said the real division appears not to have
- 35:34been between US and Israeli intelligence analysts, but between the
- 35:38spies and the politicians who interpreted the intelligence in a
- 35:42more alarming fashion. It may be that the US and
- 35:46Israeli intelligence services were on the same page, but they
- 35:50weren't on the same page as our political leadership, said Nephew,
- 35:54now at the Washington Institute. For Nieri's Policy Nephew said
- 35:58it was not surprising that a Ron would edge back
- 36:01toward the option of a BOB after suffering a series
- 36:04of strategic setbacks. By last fall, Israel had dealt staggering
- 36:09blows to allied Iranian groups such as Hamas and Lebanon
- 36:13based Hasbola, and had destroyed much of Iron's air defenses
- 36:17in air strikes in October, leaving it largely exposed. In
- 36:22recent months, Israeli intelligence officers were tracking the locations of
- 36:27various members of the scientists group, and Israeli Air Force
- 36:30pilots were training to simultaneously strike the Iranian scientists and
- 36:35military officers in their homes, and Israeli officials said by
- 36:39this month, Israeli pilots had honed their capability to use
- 36:43new software ammunitions to carry out dozens of strikes simultaneously,
- 36:48a capability they did not possess even a few years ago,
- 36:52said Matan Kahana, an Israeli lawmaker who was an air
- 36:55squadron commander. And Israeli officials said that Israel's ex external
- 37:00intelligence service, the Massad, had spent years collecting intelligence about
- 37:05each of the scientists who would be targeted for assassination
- 37:09and their roles in Iran's nuclear programs. Much of the
- 37:13agency's knowledge about the Iranian program came from agents who
- 37:17were recruited and handled by the Massad and worked inside
- 37:21the Natans and Pordo facilities. The Massad also unfurled an
- 37:26elaborate covert mission that included smuggling and installing Kamakazi drones
- 37:31and missile launchers inside Iran itself, and Israeli officials said
- 37:36there was a risk that the covert operation could have
- 37:38been discovered, and that consideration partly influenced the timing of
- 37:43the June thirteenth attack, but not Netnahu's strategic decision made
- 37:47months earlier to set it in motion. Israeli government officials
- 37:51and advisers said today the question of what intelligence is
- 37:56real possessed about the activities of the Iranian scientists is
- 37:59not relevant any more after net Yahoo decided to carry
- 38:03out their assassination and to cripple Iran's missile program and
- 38:07military leadership. Miguel argued, since June thirteenth, Israel has killed
- 38:13ten key scientists, and the US and Israeli strikes have
- 38:17set back Iran's quest for a bomb Israeli officials say
- 38:21all the scientists who are sneaking around. Miguel said most
- 38:24of them are now sneaking around in health. Strobol and
- 38:28mckenneth reported from Washington. Our next item from today's from
- 38:33Page is entitled Removals to third countries can go on.
- 38:38Supreme Court allows deportation policy while litigation continues by Anne E. Merrimouth.
- 38:45The Supreme Court on Monday cleared the way for the
- 38:48Trump administration to deport immigrants to countries where they are
- 38:52not citizens, temporarily blocking a decision by a lower court
- 38:56judge who said migrants must have a meaningful opportunity to
- 39:00test their removal. The court's order, which drew a sharp
- 39:03descent from the three liberal justices, was the latest of
- 39:07several allowing President Donald Trump to move forward with a
- 39:10major change in policy while litigation on the issue continues
- 39:14in lower courts. Each has been made as part of
- 39:17the court's emergency docket, which means they are decided based
- 39:21on truncated court filings, not oral arguments, and the justices
- 39:25do not always explain their reasoning. As part of Trump's
- 39:29mass deportation efforts, the administration has attempted to send groups
- 39:33of migrants, some convicted of crimes in the United States,
- 39:37to countries other than their own, including to conflict ridden
- 39:41South Sudan. Four individuals initially filed a lawsuit in Boston
- 39:46on behalf of all migrants potentially subject to third country removals,
- 39:51saying they are entitled to notice and an opportunity to
- 39:54raise fear based claims before deportation. U S District Judge
- 39:58Brian E. Murphy in Massachusetts ruled against the administration, temporarily
- 40:03barring such deportations. He later said a planned deportation flight
- 40:08to Sas Sudan had violated his order. Those migrants has
- 40:12since been held in a makeshift detention facility at a
- 40:15US naval base in Djibouti, enduring health hazards and the
- 40:19threat of rocket attacks. Just As Sonya Sotomayor, joined by
- 40:24Justices Elena Kagan and Katanji Brown Jackson, wrote a nearly
- 40:28twenty page descent criticizing the administration for violating the lower
- 40:33court order and trying to send migrants to a nation
- 40:36the State Department considers too unsafe for all but its
- 40:39most critical personnel. Rather than allowing our lower court colleagues
- 40:44to manage this high stakes litigation with the care and
- 40:47attention it plainly requires. The liberals wrote, the majority was
- 40:51rewarding lawlessness by halting in order the administration has repeatedly defied. Apparently,
- 40:58the Court finds the idea that thousands will suffer violence
- 41:01in far flung locales more palatable than the remote possibility
- 41:06that a district court exceeded its remedial powers when it
- 41:09ordered the government to provide notice to the targeted migrants
- 41:12to the dissent, said the Conservative majorities. One paragraph unsigned
- 41:17Stamen did not explain its reasons for pausing Murphy's decision.
- 41:22The White House and the Department of Homeland Security claimed victory,
- 41:26posting on social media the message fire up the deportation
- 41:30planes and a meme of the President doing the celebratory dance.
- 41:34In a brief order late Monday, Murphy said the men
- 41:37in Djibouti were protected from immediate removal based on a
- 41:41separate ruling he previously issued. The Third Country Removals case
- 41:46is one of several that have reached the Supreme Court
- 41:48involving the Trump administration's aggressive efforts to ramp up deportations
- 41:53and restrict legal and illegal immigration. The justices restrained the
- 41:58administration in other deportation cases, joining lower courts in chastising
- 42:03Trump officials for failing to provide immigrants with sufficient time
- 42:07or due process to challenge their removals. But the justices
- 42:12also allowed Trump to lift protected status for hundreds of
- 42:16thousands of migrants while litigation on the cancelation of their
- 42:19programs continues. The court, for example, ordered the administration to
- 42:25facilitate the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who was wrongly
- 42:29deported to El Salvador despite a court order prohibiting it.
- 42:34The government brought him back to the United States this
- 42:37month after securing an indictment against him for allegedly transporting
- 42:41undocumented migrants in her descent. Monday, Sodomayor suggested that the
- 42:47majority's position contradicted its earlier orders that had emphasized that
- 42:52migrants cannot be removed without a fair process. George Hewn
- 42:56law professor Steve Vladdok, who closely tracks the emergency docket,
- 43:00called the order disastrous and scolded the majority for failing
- 43:05to address the Trump administration violations of Murphy's order that silence,
- 43:10he wrote in his one first newsletter Monday Night, could
- 43:14encourage the administration to violate other lower court orders like Soudomayor.
- 43:20Vladik noted the court's earlier rulings that migrants are entitled
- 43:24to notice and an opportunity to challenge their deportations. He
- 43:29said Monday's order effectively allows for countless other migrants to
- 43:33be removed to third countries where they have credible arguments
- 43:37that they'll be mistreated for no other reason than because
- 43:40they've already been held to be removable to some other country.
- 43:45Due process apparently matters to these justices on the initial
- 43:49removability question, but not beyond that. Attorneys for the migrants
- 43:55said the court action leaves thousands of people vulnerable to
- 43:58deportation and mistreat. Its trips away critical due process protections
- 44:04that have been protecting our class members from torture and death.
- 44:08Trinerial Muto, executive director of the National Immigration Litigation Alliance,
- 44:13said in a statement. She emphasized that the broader challenge
- 44:17to the administration's policy is still under way in the
- 44:20lower courts, adding we now need to move as swiftly
- 44:24as possible to conclude the case and restore these protections.
- 44:28Tricia McLaughlin, an Assistant Secretary in the Department of Homeland Security,
- 44:33said in a statement that the agency can now execute
- 44:37its lawful authority and remove illegal aliens to a country
- 44:40willing to accept them. Murphy had ordered the government to
- 44:44give those targeted for third country deportations up to twenty
- 44:48five days to legally challenge their removals. He said the
- 44:51deportees also must be interviewed by the government with their
- 44:56attorney and interpreter present, to determine whether they qualify pre
- 45:00humanitarian protection. In asking the Supreme Court to overturn that ruin,
- 45:05Solicitor General d John Sawyer told the justices that the
- 45:09US is facing a crisis of illegal immigration, in no
- 45:13small part because many aliens most deserving of removal are
- 45:18often the hardest to remove. He argued that the lower
- 45:21court judge infringed on the executive's authority over deportations and
- 45:26imposed an onerous set of procedures for the government to
- 45:29assess any claims under the Convention against Torture, which was
- 45:33ratified by Congress in nineteen ninety four to bar the U.
- 45:37S Government from sending people to countries where they might
- 45:40face torture. Attorneys for the immigrants told the justices that
- 45:44Murphy went to great lengths to avoid micromanaging the administration's
- 45:49compliance with federal law prohibiting such deportations, even of criminals,
- 45:54to third countries where they would face persecution or torture.
- 45:58They also disputed the administration characterization of the migrants as
- 46:02the worst of the worst, saying many of those targeted
- 46:05have not been convicted of crimes and initially entered the
- 46:09United States legally as refugees or on student or work
- 46:13based visas. Murphy has grown increasingly frustrated with the administration's
- 46:18responses to his orders, accusing Justice Department lawyers of manufacturing
- 46:23the very chaos a to cry as a way to
- 46:26evade his instructions. In May, Murphy found that the administration
- 46:31had violated his court order by attempting to remove one
- 46:34group of migrants who are from Cuba, Vietnam, Myanmar, laws
- 46:39and Mexico after federal authorities determined they had committed serious
- 46:43crimes and their homelands would not take them. A lawyer
- 46:47for the immigrants had urged Murphy to order the government
- 46:50to return the men bound for sath Sudan to the
- 46:53United States, but the judge declined to order the return,
- 46:58saying the Department of Homeland Security could bring them back
- 47:01for the interviews or conduct them where the migrants were
- 47:04being held. In his filing, Sawyer assured the court that
- 47:08under the Convention against Torture, the Administration will not remove
- 47:12an alien to any country where he is likely to
- 47:15be tortured, i e. The extreme scenario where the alien
- 47:18is likely to face severe pain or suffering intentionally inflicted
- 47:22by the hand or with the consent of a public official.
- 47:26Maria Sacchetti contributed to this report. Next an item entitled
- 47:32after years of service, transgender troops being forced out ten
- 47:37facing Trump Administration's ban agonized over the careers there on
- 47:41the Brink of Losing by Jonathan Edwards, U S Base
- 47:45Force Master Sergeant Sabrina Bruce didn't know her life was
- 47:49about to change forever when she got into her car
- 47:52last month to head to the Pentagon and re enlist
- 47:55for another six years. Bruce, thirty four, was excited to
- 47:59continue knew a career that had set her on a
- 48:01life altering path. She had enlisted in the Air Force
- 48:05in twenty thirteen to escape her gender dysphoria. She said,
- 48:09referring to the medical term for the distress felt when
- 48:12one's sex assigned at birth tis not align with her gender. Instead,
- 48:16she found a culture that empowered her to come out
- 48:19as a transgender woman. But just before Bruce began the
- 48:23drive to her re enlistment ceremony on May sixth, she
- 48:26saw the news on her phone. The U. S. Supreme
- 48:29Court had ruled the Trump administration could execute plans to
- 48:34bar her and thousands of other transgender service members from
- 48:37the Armed Forces. Despite her intent to keep serving, Bruce
- 48:42realized her military career doing top secret cybersecurity work would
- 48:47probably be measured in weeks or months, not years. I
- 48:51was in shock, she said, adding I was intending to
- 48:55serve out my time and keep working and keep contributing
- 48:58to the nation. Bruce started transitioning in twenty seventeen, seven
- 49:03months after the military lifted its ban prohibiting transgender troops
- 49:07from serving openly. Nine years after that ban ended, the
- 49:12same military is now kicking them out. Active duty transgender
- 49:16service members faced a June sixth deadline to self report
- 49:20their gender dysphoria, which President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary
- 49:24Pete Hexath said is incompatible with military service. Trump called
- 49:29transgender identity a falsehood that does not comport with the
- 49:33humility and selflessness required of a service member. Advocates for
- 49:38transgender service members say expelling cyber experts like Bruce and
- 49:42others in highly specialized fields pilots, nuclear engineers, intelligence annalysts,
- 49:48will harm the military as leaders try to reverse a
- 49:52year's long trend of recruiting shortfalls. The Washington Post spoke
- 49:57with ten transgender troops as some wrestled with the decision
- 50:00to self report by the deadline, others scrambled to find
- 50:04new jobs, and all grieved the sudden, unwonted loss of
- 50:08a life built around military service. Each of them repudiated
- 50:12the Pentagon calling their de facto firings as voluntary separations
- 50:17after requiring them to report their gender dysphoria for the
- 50:21express purpose of casting them out. This is not a
- 50:25voluntary separation. This is separation under distress. This is coercion.
- 50:31The U. S. Navy commander Emily Shilling, a fighter pilot
- 50:34and president of Sparta Pride, a non profit that advocates
- 50:38for transgender troops. She, like the other service members interviewed,
- 50:43spoke in a personal capacity and not on behalf of
- 50:46the military about four thousand, two hundred service members had
- 50:50been diagnosed with gender dysphoria as of December ninth, A
- 50:54senior Defense official said in May, on the condition of
- 50:56anonymity under ground rules set by the Trump administration, that
- 51:01number about zero point two one percent of the military's
- 51:05total force includes active duty, reserve, and National Guard personnel.
- 51:11Sparta Pride said studies have put the number of transgender
- 51:14service members as high as about fifteen thousand. Roughly one
- 51:19thousand trans troops had self reported as of May eighth,
- 51:22Defense Department spokesman Sean Parnell said in a statement. Department
- 51:27officials said Friday they did not have an updated number
- 51:30of active duty troops who self reported by the June
- 51:33sixth deadline. The Army, Marine Corps, Air Force, and Space
- 51:38Force declined to release numbers for their individual branches. The
- 51:42Navy said three hundred seventy one sailors self reported by
- 51:45the deadline. Most American support letting transgender troops serve openly,
- 51:51according to a January Gallup poll, but that support fifty
- 51:55eight percent, has dwindled in recent years from seventy one
- 51:59percent into twenty nineteen and sixty six percent in twenty
- 52:03twenty one. The poll showed the Trump administration's ban is
- 52:08the latest swing in a nearly decade long battle between
- 52:11presidential administrations that have alternated political parties every four years
- 52:16since twenty thirteen. For decades, transgender people were barred from
- 52:21serving until twenty sixteen, when the Obama administration repealed the ban,
- 52:26saying that doing so would give the military access to
- 52:29the most highly qualified recruits. Trump tried to ban transgender
- 52:34troops during his first term, and while the Defense Department
- 52:37tightened restrictions affecting recruits, it also grandfathered in about nine
- 52:41hundred people who were already serving. President Joe Biden reversed
- 52:46those restrictions in twenty twenty one, but as Trump campaigned
- 52:50last year to return to office, he promised to crack
- 52:53down on what he called transgender insanity if elected, including
- 52:57reimposing the ban. Bruce said she lost sleep over Trump
- 53:02winning the November election, but she hoped his vow to
- 53:06bring back the band was mere bluster, or the trans
- 53:09troops who were already serving would again be grandfathered in.
- 53:13Those hopes were dashed as Trump signed several executive actions
- 53:17targeting transgender people. They included one he issued January twenty seventh,
- 53:22taking aim at trans troops, accusing them of living in
- 53:25conflict with its soldier's commitment to an honorable, truthful, and
- 53:30disciplined lifestyle, even in one's personal life. US Army Sergeant
- 53:35first class Julia B. Kraft, thirty four, cried when she
- 53:39heard those words by her commander in chief. She is
- 53:42deployed to Afghanistan three times. During her fourteen year career,
- 53:46which was mostly spent in the infantry. She's fought the
- 53:49Taliban and the Islamic State. She seen combat, lost soldiers
- 53:54from her company, and fought back enemy fighters to try
- 53:57to rescue her comrades or recover their body. The Craft,
- 54:01who planned to serve at least twenty years, said the
- 54:04trauma of being stripped of her career and community sent
- 54:08her into a tail spin. On February twenty sixth, the
- 54:12day the Defense Department unveiled its new policy, she went
- 54:15to the emergency room, scared she might harm herself. Doctors
- 54:20released her to her commanding officer's adviser on condition that
- 54:23she give up her personal firearm. She said the adviser
- 54:27held her in the company's headquarters overnight she added, and
- 54:30the next morning her commanding officer ordered her to report
- 54:33to her behavioral health appointment. That day, she chose to
- 54:37participate in a twenty eight day in patient therapy program
- 54:40the depression, she said, including herself. Four of the twenty
- 54:45patients in the Defense Department sponsored program were trans service
- 54:49members coping with the same feelings of despair, for Craft said.
- 54:54A day after Trump issued his executive order, a group
- 54:57of transgender troops sued Hexath and other top military officials
- 55:01in a lawsuit that has grown to include thirty two plaintiffs,
- 55:05including Bruce. They scored quick legal victories in lower federal courts,
- 55:10securing an injunction barring the administration from kicking them out,
- 55:15but on May sixth, the Supreme Court granted the administration's
- 55:18request to let the Defense Department implement its policy while
- 55:22the case plays out in court. All of the trans
- 55:26service members who spoke with the Post said forcing them
- 55:29out is a waste of taxpayer dollars spent to educate
- 55:32and train them. Schilling, the lead plaintiff in a second
- 55:35lawsuit fighting the band, gave herself as an example, now
- 55:39forty two. She joined the Navy in two thousand five
- 55:43and trained as a fighter pilot from two thousand nine
- 55:46to twenty twelve. She flew EA six B Prowlers in
- 55:50sixty combat missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, then became a
- 55:54test pilot in twenty fifteen to help improve the Navy's
- 55:57aviation technology. She has been more than one thousand, seven
- 56:01hundred hours in a cockpit during her twenty year career.
- 56:04She said. At our most recent assignment, she managed three
- 56:08hundred people and an annual budget of about one hundred
- 56:11million dollars. Tasked with creating a mission control system for
- 56:15launching drones from aircraft carriers, a program heralded as part
- 56:19of the Air Wing of the Future, Shilling self reported
- 56:23in March afraid that if she didn't, officials would end
- 56:26her career just short of the twenty years needed to
- 56:29get retirement benefits, and has been on administrative leave since then.
- 56:34She said she already has a private sector job lined
- 56:37up for post military life. Chief Warrant officer too. Joe Ellis,
- 56:42a U AH sixty black Hawk helicopter pilot in the
- 56:45Virginia Army National Guard, said she will take a different path.
- 56:50Members of the Guard in reserve have until July seventh
- 56:52to self report. She plans to let that deadline pass
- 56:56and fight for her career as long as she can.
- 57:00Part of its rubbing her to do so, she said,
- 57:03was an experience earlier this year when her right wing
- 57:06influencer falsely identified her as a pilot flying the Army
- 57:10black Hawk helicopter that crashed mid air with an American
- 57:13Airlines passenger jet near Reagan National Airport, killing all sixty
- 57:18seven people aboard both aircraft. The influencer held her up
- 57:22as exhibit A for the harm inflicted on the military
- 57:25by diversity, equality and inclusion policies. Ellis, thirty five, realizes
- 57:32active duties service members, livelihoods, pay, health insurance, retirement, and
- 57:37other benefits are on the line. As a guard member
- 57:41with a full time job as an information technology engineer
- 57:44at a Fortune five hundred company, Ellis said she has
- 57:48more freedom to challenge the ban. I want to go
- 57:51out on my feet fighting, she said. I desperately want
- 57:55to serve. The ten service members of Post talked to,
- 57:58who served to combine one hundred thirty three years in uniform,
- 58:02said the same, all of them, adding that expelling hundreds
- 58:05or even thousands of qualified troops could harm military readiness.
- 58:11Due to the constraints of time, we will be unable
- 58:13to complete this item. This concludes the reading of the
- 58:17Washington Post for to Day, Tuesday, June twenty fourth, twenty
- 58:21twenty five. Your reader to day has been Cindy Fraser.
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