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Too Many Memories, No Phones and a Thriller of a Throwback · Rik and that Michele Chick

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Welcome to Rick and that Michelle chick.
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Hello, I'm that Michelle chick. And I'm Rick.
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Welcome. OK, so there was a comment on
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our spot. Hang on.
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OK. OK, I yeah, hang on.
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I'm going. To kick some dogs out.
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All right, here we go. I'm ready.
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Now, OK, OK, OK, back to the comment we received on our
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Spotify. So it was for the episode titled
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Snacks. We mourn tears We shed and a
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tiny tenant with big bills in that in that episode we
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discussed foods that we missed and would like to see make a
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comeback. Well, Robert, who was a listener
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of our morning show back when we did it, he commented and he said
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that he misses butter horns. Sambo's in Lewiston, ID as a
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kid, the best. And I of course, have no idea
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what he's talking about, but you do so.
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So, so you're talking, you're talking about the Sambo's
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restaurant? I I'm assuming I.
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Yeah, so, so interesting. So Sambo's which was is not
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politically correct, OK, Because they had a little Oh yeah.
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Would not, It had a, it had a tiger.
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It had a tiger and then it had a little black boy as it's mascot.
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So Sambo's was not at the time politically correct or at the
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time maybe politically correct. Not today.
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So Sambo's used to be right there on Main Street.
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So I had talked in a in a previous podcast to where I had
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been a waiter and I'd been a cook and a dishwasher at Pioneer
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Pies, which was a franchise that was in Spokane.
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I think it was one in Yakima made too, right?
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Pioneer Pies. So these, yeah, these Pioneer
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Pies had taken over the old Sambo's restaurant.
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So, so in downtown Main Street, downtown Lewiston, where this
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Sambo's was located at was actually where Pioneer Pies was,
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where I was actually a cook and a waiter and busboy and all that
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in high school. So I, I'm now as a kid, it was
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Sambo's. And so you could think of a
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Sambo's as Sherry's basically Denny's or Sherry's kind of kind
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of that kind of restaurant, but not politically correct.
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Like Family Diner. It's a family diner.
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Kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And you should, Yep, you should pull up.
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You should pull up Sambo's and say yeah, Sambo's restaurants
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and go whoa, what? Yeah.
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It was just a perfect it was a perfectly normal day in 1970.
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Right. But did Andy was talking about
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the butter horns? Mm, hmm.
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Yeah, yeah, it's it's, I miss butter horns, so I'm assuming
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it's something from the sambo's, Yeah.
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Yeah, but they still make butter horns.
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You find them. You they do make butter horns.
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You can find them in the store is.
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This a different version of it or a better?
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It's like a bear claw. Right, yeah I know what a butter
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horn is, but I'm assuming like they were better from Sambo.
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Probably were I I'm making the assumption they they were
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homemade and not store bought. You know, and then, and then of
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course, if you're gonna have a butter horn, you got to smother
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that bad boy with butter. Yes.
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You know, and you can do it and you can.
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I would have coffee with mine, you would not.
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Yeah, it's delete. Yeah, but and then and then you
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microwave it where the butter just oozes.
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I mean, it's. Yeah, I'm all for that.
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I'm all for it, Robert and Sambo's.
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I definitely know where Sambo's is.
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And it was Sambo's when I was a kid, before it became Pioneer
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Pies. So I know exactly what I know
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exactly what he's talking about. OK, And a big thank you to
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Robert for listening to our podcast.
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Someone did. Someone did.
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My goodness. OK, I'm going to hang on a
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second. Hang on, there's one.
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One listener in our analytics. Oh, and then I found something
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that I'll show you towards the end of this podcast.
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Hopefully we don't run long today.
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So I've been sorting through our storage unit, which mind you, we
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have two storage units, but the second one is full of a lot of,
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you know, my dad's stuff, furniture, that kind of thing.
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But the first storage unit is full of basically our kids shit
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and I've been trying to organize everything and then put those
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little QR code labels on it. Do you know what that is?
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So you yeah, yeah, you can put the little QR code and then you
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take a picture and then you can describe what's in it anyway.
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Yes, so I'm trying to get all organized.
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OK, this is taking me like this is what my second week working
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on this like this because we have the largest storage unit
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available. Both of them are the biggest one
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that you all has. I don't know what the dimensions
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are but so anyway I have been going through stuff and I found
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a gem of you and I that I will show.
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Towards. The end of the podcast, which I
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didn't even. I think I've got I think I've
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got if I if I go look in my if I go look in my storage unit, I
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don't have a lot, but I think I've got photos of danger boy in
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the doghouse. So there.
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So there's I have to yeah, they're it's very deep in there.
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I think that they did a newspaper article about when we
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did back-to-back for Backstreet Boys.
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So there's a newspaper article about that from the Yakima
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Herald. So I've got a little, I've got a
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couple little things and there is some, there is some photos
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that and it's you and I, it's you and I.
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There's the doghouse danger boys in the doghouse.
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We're leaning on the doghouse. I'm in a like a blue shirt, a
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tie, weird. And and then you're wearing the
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back of the day. We had the white 107 shirts,
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yes, which I. Found those too.
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That has kind of like the Aqua KFFM look logos.
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Yep, Yep, I have one of those I found.
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I bet you do. Yeah, I don't.
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Yeah, I don't have mine anymore, but I but yes, it's a it's a
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classic. Yep, and then I have the picture
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of us with the 98°. Oh yeah.
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And Logan's in it. And Logan's in it too.
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I've got that. I think, I think that was
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actually on my Facebook. I may have that hidden on my
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Facebook somewhere in old pictures or whatever.
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But yeah, Logan, yeah, he's just a little guy.
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She's just a little guy, yeah. But.
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I mean, the big thing about 98°, not that it's 98°, Nick Lachey's
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in there. So that, yeah, it's the same
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thing as I always talk about *NSYNC.
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It's like, it's not that we met *NSYNC.
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Oh, we met Justin Timberlake. That's right.
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I, I couldn't, I mean, you know, I can't name the other.
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The answer is 98° nobody I. Remember.
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Yeah. No, it's Nick Lachey.
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So yeah. Yeah, and his brother, which I
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don't. Remember Drew?
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It's Drew. Yeah, isn't it?
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Drew Lachey, I think. He's the brother.
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Yeah, Yeah. Anyway, which I don't know about
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you, but kind of given our childhoods, once I hit middle
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school, like I started saving all my stuff because I had
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control over that. My mom got rid of like my
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favorite yellow dress and my Tutu.
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And so now I think like, I've overreacted because of that.
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And I've saved like all this stuff from my kids.
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Like, like they're gonna, when I die, they're gonna sort through
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this shit and be like, what? What?
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Why did? Why did this?
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Why did this bitch gave this like, like what is going on?
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So I'm curious if because of our childhoods that maybe especially
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yours being bounced around a lot more, do you find that that's
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kind of like something that you notice that you do now because.
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Yeah, well, I don't, I wouldn't, I, I would never, I would never
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call it hoarding. I would.
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It would definitely not be hoarding.
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But but and I know that Pokémon. First wife, I'm organizing my
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hoard, so does that make it not hoarding?
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It might make well, you're QR and you're putting QR codes on
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your crap. So that I think that's, I think
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that's hoarding, but so pokey purged a lot through the years.
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And then Megan is definitely one of those people who if she could
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purge anything of mine, she'd purge it.
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So I have some I don't have a lot because.
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And, and as a kid we did move around a lot.
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Yeah, through the foster care system.
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So I talk about it in my book, which of course there's my
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shameless plug for my book. The one thing is when we had a
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house fire in fifth grade was that blue ribbon for my dog Joe
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is the one thing. If there's anything I, I've ever
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said, oh, I wish I had that back, is if there's a blue
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ribbon for my dog and that was from 5th grade or I'm sorry,
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when I was a little kid and that burns up in fifth grade.
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And then when I, so I went to this phase before I met girls,
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before I met girls. So I went to this phase from
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like when I was a freshman to I was a sophomore and I used to
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write and draw my own comic books, like like religious, like
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religiously like it was, that's what I did.
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And so I had like 33 issues of a particular issue that I had, I
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had written and drawn. And, and So what happened was in
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between the moving of high school and college, it was in
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the back of my Chevy Vega and my Chevy Vega, I rolled it, I
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rolled it. So it ended up getting towed
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away and I just never went and got my stuff out of it.
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So I lost a lot. I if I those are things I wish I
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could have had back because they were in the they were in the
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trunk, basically. Right.
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So and so and my memory is, my memory is fading the older I
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get. So there are certain things,
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yeah, there's certain things I wish that I that I had kept.
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And so I have now from now, from 18 on up, I don't have a lot,
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but I do because I'm an adult and I and I have more of those
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different things, especially Logan.
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Once Logan came into the picture, I've got all of Logan's
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babies, pick baby pictures, the baby book, even some shoes from
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Logan different. Anything that concerned Logan
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more. So I definitely have more of
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Logan than myself. Yes, but but when my mom, it was
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interesting when my mom passed away, she did have some stuff
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that I I didn't have. So she had my birth
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announcement. I would.
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Yeah. I didn't realize I'd weighed 4
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lbs. Yeah, that's small.
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Yeah, so there was a couple things that she had said that
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was in her stuff that I was able to get, that it was kind of cool
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to get that stuff. And then for my book, what
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really made me want to write the book was my foster sister had
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found a bunch of pictures and I had not seen those pictures like
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ever. And that's what spurred me to
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write the book because she had pictures for my childhood that
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I'm like, okay, you need to write this book now.
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So I wish I had a lot. Do you have a lot of childhood
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pictures? I don't have a lot of childhood.
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Pictures. I do have a lot of.
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Thankfully I do have a lot of childhood pictures, but just I
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have a few baby clothes and my baby book and that's about it
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until I hit probably until again, like I had control over
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my stuff and my mom couldn't just get rid of it or whatever.
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And so that probably started about middle school.
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I do have all of my My Little Pony collection and the houses
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and I organized that and I took a picture of the containers and
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sent it. We have a group chat with us and
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our kids and I sent it to them and said this is your
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inheritance. Yeah, there you go, My Little
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Pony collection. Yes.
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So I do thankfully have all of that.
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Not that it is going to be worth anything.
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Like it's not new in boxes. I played with it like it's been
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used. Yeah.
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I wouldn't even let Shaylee play with him.
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Yeah. And she's a little bit, I think
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bent about that still to this day.
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And she's 18 now. So she's, she's going.
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To inherit the My Little Pony. I mean, I guess it's not, as
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you've seen the crazy stories back in the Beanie.
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Was it Beanie Baby craze? Yes.
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To where they showed a photo of people getting divorces and
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there's a judge and they're sitting there separating.
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Beanie Babies each Beanie Baby. Yeah.
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What the what the I No, I will. Yeah.
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Oh, go ahead. Are you a Beanie Baby?
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No, but we when my grandma passed away, my mom gave Shaylee
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the my grandma had the purple Princess Diana, Beanie Baby
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Bear. That was like worth.
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But this is like, this is not the first Gen. or whatever
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generation Generation. Yeah, this is like the second
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one. So it's not worth as much money.
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But I googled it because I thought it was the first Gen.
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I didn't know there was more than one round made.
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And so I Googled it and I'm going, oh, even the second gent
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is worth probably about 5 grand. And so that thing is like,
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protected. That one's put away, Yeah.
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Yeah, that was the one, the one thing nice about not it was
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funny when I was a kid, I did not take care of my comic books
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like I take care of my comic books now.
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But that's the one thing that that pokey when we got divorced,
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she did not take any any of the comic books or any of the
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valuable comic books. So, yeah, so I mean, so that's
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what I'm passing on to Logan. And it's funny.
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I wanted Logan to have the enthusiasm because, you know, he
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know, I mean, he grew up around comic books.
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But it's funny is like, like if I got the first appearance of
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the Silver Surfer or the first appearance of Daredevil or
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whatever, I get excited about it.
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I really don't share it with anybody.
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And so one day I was like, well, I said Logan, don't you want to
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know what you've got? And being Logan, he goes, oh,
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Dad, there's the Internet. So.
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So instead of me, instead of me being able to sit down with him
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and go, hey, look at this. Here's the first.
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Here's a Deadpool, here's the first.
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Yeah, all of that. He's like, yeah, yeah.
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They have this thing called the Internet.
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If I want to know what if I want to know what I got, I'll just
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look it up. Do you have them all cataloged
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and and like alphabetical? All of them.
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So yeah, so there are, there are programs.
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So there's a program called Key Collector and ZAP Kapow.
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So I have about 4000 cataloged. So mainly, so mainly, I mean,
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again, comics are only worth what someone's willing to pay
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for a comic book. So even though a book might say
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it's worth $3000, if someone's only going to give you a couple
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100 bucks and it really is worth a couple 100 bucks, same as any
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collectible. So, but, but I do have they're
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called key issues. So like like you said, the first
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appearance of Daredevil or the first appearance of Deadpool,
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any of that stuff. So I do have those catalogs key
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issue wise. And then as a collector, it's
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like, yeah, I mean, when it comes to comic books, not to
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bore everybody, but it really is.
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And same with same as you were talking about the My Little
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Pony. In any collectible, it's the
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condition that really matters. It needs to be new in box.
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And right mints in boxes from a from a action figure collectible
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and all those different things. And so I've, I've got some
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really nice books that, you know, could, could fetch some
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good money, but I don't have anything.
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So I definitely, I would never financially put myself at risk
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ever when buying a comic book. So, so all my comic books that I
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own are comic books I could afford to own and that I was
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willing to and that I was willing to take a risk on or buy
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so. $1,000,000 yeah. Superman.
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So yeah. So in my collection, I don't, I
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don't. I mean, even though I'd love to
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have an amazing fantasy #15 the first appearance of Spider Man
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or Spider man #1 if those are so far out of my, my reach, I mean,
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these are 10. These are 10 to $12,000 even in
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the worst conditions. So yeah.
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So it's like I, I would never, I just wouldn't even do it today
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if someone walked in right now said, hey, here's a Spider man
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number one $12,000. I could not.
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I would not feel comfortable purchasing that.
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Right, even though you would love to have it as part of.
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Your, I'd love to have it. I'd love to have it.
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So, So yeah. So for me, once we start getting
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to I guess I don't know what my number is on what I would be
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presented, but for me, anything above 600 bucks, I'm like, OK,
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too, too rich for my blood. So but luckily, I mean, I have
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AI do have a lot of books that I bought at a great price that are
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worth thousands each, right. So that's the nice thing is I
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did buy books. It was so funny, hilarious story
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and not to stay on comic books, but the hilarious story was my
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buddy Kurt in high school. So my buddy Kurt in junior high
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and high school, his parents had money.
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So he I went to the comic book store every Wednesday when
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comics came out and I was so jealous because his wall and
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when we were in junior high, his walls were just full of comic
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books like on the wall, like all pinned up.
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I was so jealous of him. And so he had the giant size
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X-Men, which is a very which is a very collectible comic book,
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very famous from 1975. First, it's the first appearance
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of the the new X-Men and Wolverines like third
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appearance. So I, I admired that book in
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junior high and I remember when we were that graduated high
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school, so funny. He calls me out of the blue and
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he goes, hey, dude, he goes, I just need some cash.
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And I said, he goes, I'll show you my giant size X-Men.
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And so I said, I said, I said, well, I can give you 50 bucks
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for it goes yeah, yeah, that works.
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So he dropped it off. I gave him 50 bucks for the
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book. So I have a giant, I do have a
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giant size X-Men, which is like it's one of the the grails that
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people want. And years later, I ran into Kurt
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in Seattle and he's like, yeah, he goes, man.
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He goes. My biggest regret was ever
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selling my giant size X-Men because I don't even know who
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has it. He doesn't.
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Even know. He's so and I said I've got it,
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I bought it, he goes. I would not have said it.
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I would have said I don't know, I.
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Don't know, It was funny, he goes.
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He had. He had not.
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He'd forgotten that. He had sold it.
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He goes. Oh, at least it was you, you
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know, so I. Mean I'd be thinking, did he
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need money for drugs? No, not at all.
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He wasn't like that. So I don't I, I.
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Mean he can't remember, Yeah. I mean, and I don't even think
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that even today he collects calm.
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It's not his thing. I mean, it was, it was don't.
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He, when he was younger, great. Yeah, it was, but but I was so
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jealous that he had had, you know, his mom and dad had bought
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him basically man, he he always had comic book when he I never
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did so. But I do have that in my
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collection and and I have it graded.
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So that's one of the things you do now with comics, if you've
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got a grail, you know, same as a baseball card, different things
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like that. So yes, I've got it.
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I've got it graded. It's one of the the books that
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that that Logan will inherit. So it's got a great story behind
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it. It's a fun, yeah, it's a fun,
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it's a fun story. So, you know, and then and then
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the most I ever spent, Peter McClain, you know, from work.
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Yeah. You know, he had, he approached
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me one time years ago, maybe 5 or 6 years ago and said, hey, my
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brother and I had comic books in the 60s and they're in my
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storage unit. So he brought them in.
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Remember, they were in the shoe box.
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They were in the shoe box. And he had like 200 Silver age
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comic books, early Silver age. And so and he goes, yeah, I
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don't know what to do with them. And I said, I'll give you $5000
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right now. And and if they were now, if
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these books were meant, they'd be worth way more.
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So they were not in the best shape, but but I ended up
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getting the first Silver Surfer, first Galactus, early Spider
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man. I mean, so it was 202 hundred
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books of early Marvel. So it's kind of it's kind of the
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crown jewel of at least one of the crown jewels of my
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collection, But that I think that's the most I ever spent.
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And I literally, I, I, I just look and I think some would say
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I probably overspent back then, but I looked at him go, I'll
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give you 5000. Would you take $5000 for My
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Little Pony? No what?
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No for my My Little Pony collection.
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You would not. Do you think a dog is going to
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quiz you? Do you think it's worth more
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than that? No, it's not.
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So it's sentimental. Yes, I mean, honestly, like I
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yeah, there's no reason really to keep them anymore.
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But yeah, I just can't part. Like I said, I wouldn't even let
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Shaylee play with them. Like that's how crazy I am about
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them. Which is dumb.
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It's really dumb. The nice thing about the Peter
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situation was, I mean, they were in his storage the entire like,
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he's OK his whole life. So it wasn't like he had him and
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he wasn't, he wasn't even a comic book fan.
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I mean, within reason. And so he said so he knew what
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what I offered that, that that they were, I mean, like I still
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have them. I mean, he knew I would not sell
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them. It's not great, man.
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Now, maybe Logan once I'm dead, will sell them.
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I'm sure. But but but not but but in my
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collection. They're not going to get sold as
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part of my collection so. Right.
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I'm yeah, I'm sure my kids are going to sell all my stuff.
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They're going to be going. But but now I'm going to go QR
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code everything because you're spastic like that.
20:12
Well, I mean. I know what I have.
20:15
I'm trying to organize so that when I need to find something, I
20:18
can just look and a little label catalog and find it.
20:21
So Yep. That's there you go.
20:23
There you go. Yeah.
20:24
I wish I was that detail oriented.
20:26
I am not. I mean, I do know.
20:28
I do know what I have and where it's located for the most part.
20:32
So if I have to get to it, I definitely.
20:35
One thing I don't do, I mean this might be interesting, is I
20:38
do not invite people over to my house to go through my comic
20:41
book collection. Well, no, I mean, is that a
20:44
game? Is that common with adults?
20:45
No, I don't know if it's common, but I look at it like you might
20:48
as well be cased in the joint. So I don't and and not and
20:52
again, not that I have anything. I not that I have anything of
20:56
value, but I've always felt that that most most crimes are inside
21:02
jobs. Oh, definitely.
21:04
That they know what they know what you have, or they know
21:06
where it's located to get it. Especially if you look at all
21:09
these celebrities getting broke into, it's usually somebody that
21:12
knows, somebody that knows where everything is or how to get in.
21:16
Or that's how they, that's how that's how they did.
21:18
I remember that Pokey, when we had gotten a divorce and she had
21:22
her own apartment in Clarkston, her brother, her, her sister
21:26
Shelly stayed with Pokey. And I said man, I said that's
21:29
not a good idea, Pokey, not a good idea.
21:31
Next thing I know, Shelly, her sister, her, her adopted sister,
21:34
half sister or whatever, took all their stuff to the pawn shop
21:38
and, and so, and so Pokey was only able to get like 50% of
21:42
their stuff back. But she literally loaded up
21:43
Logan's toys, loaded up the VCR, loaded up the DVD, I mean,
21:47
loaded up her crap. And it's like, it's, it's
21:50
probably, I know this is, you know, I, I know my party,
21:52
probably my family's listening to this.
21:54
That's why you're not going to be staying with me.
21:56
I. Mean there's good hotels.
21:59
There's yeah, yeah, I don't. I mean, I mean, it's like I,
22:03
it's just, I think that sometimes it's just too tempting
22:08
now, because especially if you, if you know what you're looking
22:12
for, like you said, a celebrity's home or you know
22:14
what you're looking for, you know, it has to like, like if I
22:17
come home tomorrow and all my comics are gone, I know it's an
22:19
inside job because no one knows. They just don't know.
22:22
I mean, they don't know what I have or what, what value.
22:25
And so, and not that, I mean, I'd just be more upset that I
22:28
lot, like you said, my comics have more sentimental value to
22:32
me right than they do. Monetary.
22:35
Yeah, yeah, again, I'm not I mean, I've never I haven't, I
22:39
haven't sold any comic book that I own so and I don't plan to.
22:42
So the same as the Little Pony thing, it for me and I'm sure
22:45
the Little Pony thing is the same way and I talk about it a
22:47
lot in my book too. Is there for me.
22:50
That's my childhood, that's my that was my that's my shield.
22:53
That's my protection. That's, I don't know, that's my
22:57
blanket. I was going to say, I think for
22:59
me, the My Little Ponies, that's like the happy part of my
23:03
childhood. And there's not many for us.
23:05
And so you hold on to that happiness compare, you know,
23:11
compared to everything because it was craziness for both you
23:14
and I. Yeah, And that's what.
23:16
The And that's what the comic books are.
23:18
That's what the comic books are. And so even in terms of owning
23:21
rare or valuable comic books, yeah, I have a few of those, but
23:24
I didn't care about the condition.
23:25
I'd rather just own the book. Right.
23:28
So, so like, yeah, I'd rather have it in my collection than
23:31
than worried about, oh, how much money is this going to fetch for
23:34
me? I need to get the best copy
23:36
period because because and I don't have time for people like
23:39
that because those people like that irritate me so.
23:42
Yeah. OK, let's move on with back to
23:44
school going on. I did notice that this year
23:48
there is a lot more schools that are doing the no cell phones
23:51
during school hours. And I know that one of the
23:56
schools, they're having the kids put their phones in the is that
24:00
the Yoder packs or whatever? Yeah, is it the?
24:02
Is it the clear clear, the see through or or they unclip?
24:07
Well, so I know artists are using them.
24:09
And when I saw Garth Brooks at Caesar's Palace in Vegas just a
24:14
few years ago, he made everyone use them.
24:16
And they're not clear. They were just Gray.
24:18
And you put your phone in it, and then it kind of like locks.
24:22
And then you have it on your possession, but you can't open
24:25
it. And then if you needed to use
24:27
your phone during the show, you had to go out to the lobby.
24:30
Somebody was there to unlock it, and then you could use your
24:33
phone. And then when you were ready to
24:35
go back in, you put it back in and they locked and you went
24:37
back in. So I'm assuming it's the same
24:40
kind of Yoder pack or whatever it is.
24:42
Yeah, I think schools. Are using so.
24:45
They are. I know.
24:46
I know schools in Oregon are for sure.
24:48
I don't know about necessarily Washington, but I do know there
24:50
are some Oregon school districts that have actually bought those.
24:52
Yoder. Yeah, yeah, which I know.
24:55
I which as a parent, OK, I understand cell phones are a big
24:58
distraction. They're a big problem.
25:01
My only concern would be as a parent in an emergency, so like
25:06
a school shooting that my kid would have immediate access to
25:11
their cell phone. Like that would be my big
25:15
concern is that it's locked in this Yoder pack and they're not
25:19
going to be able to call anyone for that matter.
25:22
So I mean, that's kind of my concern.
25:25
I mean, I get that they're a distraction, but as a parent I I
25:28
probably wouldn't before this policy.
25:31
But I think and I and I hear you on that, but and I and you and I
25:36
lived through the days where we were like Michelle, your mom's
25:38
on the phone and they'd. Give them to the front of you.
25:40
You'd have to go to the office, right?
25:41
Thought you were in trouble. My, my issue more than anything
25:44
else is so I mean, we're talking like elementary kids now have
25:50
cell phones. Oh yeah, which my kids didn't
25:53
get any until they were like 910 years.
25:55
Old, but it's but it's but I I feel that the entitlement of
26:02
like and and it's not just entitlement.
26:04
It's a status. It's a status.
26:07
So we're already grooming kids in first, second, third grade to
26:11
walk in with with the Starbucks and the best cell phone, if that
26:16
we do. That.
26:17
We do that because because parents want parents want what
26:21
they didn't have or what's best for their kids.
26:23
And, and so it's, it's to me, I think it's equivalent to having
26:27
the the best night, brand new Nikes or Air Jordans, right?
26:31
You know, and then and so, so for me, it's like, and, and
26:34
can't you put the I I it's AI think, I think cell phones can
26:39
be an addiction. I think that screen time and I I
26:43
hear what you're saying that and that is the argument a lot of
26:45
people say medical or in case of in case of those kind of
26:49
situations. Any type of.
26:50
Emergency. But.
26:51
But you. But again, you're relying on
26:54
immature kids to not get on their phones, right.
26:59
I mean, So what? Where.
27:00
Yeah. Where do you draw that line?
27:01
A teacher's up there to teach. Yeah, which again, I get that
27:05
they are a distraction, but I would want my child to have
27:09
access to themselves. I seen, and I seen a lot of
27:12
parents flip out about it. Like, you know, you're not going
27:14
to keep my kid from his phone. But I saw people flip out about
27:19
the Garth Brooks situation. Oh yes.
27:21
Like I'm taking my phone. Like, no, you can't, you know,
27:25
enjoy. Enjoy the freaking show.
27:28
And it was so nice. I do have to say, it was so nice
27:32
to not because when you do have your phone, you're trying to
27:35
take pictures and video which, which, how often do you go back
27:38
through and watch these videos of the concert that you were?
27:41
Yeah, I mean, usually you don't. You just post them on social
27:44
media. That's why you take that.
27:47
And I would just. Yeah, being free from that, I
27:49
was able to just enjoy the show and be in the moment and it it
27:54
was nice. I don't, I don't, I don't think
27:56
we. I don't think, number one, I
27:57
don't think we do enough of that anymore because over the weekend
28:00
we went to see Toto Minute Work and Christopher Cross in
28:03
Ridgefield, a great little venue, Live Nation venue.
28:06
And, and you're right, everybody's got a cell phone out
28:09
taking a video. Yeah, yeah.
28:10
And, and so it's a, it's a sea of, and no one's really sitting
28:13
there, actually sitting and enjoying like enjoying the
28:15
music. Right.
28:16
Paying attention, Listening. Really.
28:18
Really. More about what video I'm gonna
28:20
grab and put up on social media. Yeah.
28:23
So. Definitely so, yeah.
28:24
And so school wise, I if you could trust that kids could keep
28:29
their hands off their phones, but I don't think you can.
28:32
No, no younger kids. No, I could, you know, high
28:35
school kids, they need to Start learning boundaries and to not
28:39
be on their phone 24/7, but they should be able to put their
28:43
phone away during class and then.
28:45
But you have, you have 4, but you have 4 great kids.
28:50
Not not everybody's got 4 great kids or one great kid or two or
28:54
three great kids. You've got you've got some
28:56
really entitled. Oh, yes, Shaylee went to dance
29:03
class and she was probably 8 or 9 and she did not have a cell
29:08
phone. But she came back from class and
29:12
she was talking about how the other girls in the class were
29:14
talking about how they just got the latest version of the iPhone
29:18
and that kind of thing. And she goes, mom, like, they
29:22
don't need that. Why?
29:25
Why are their parents buying them this?
29:27
Which she's very thrifty, so I get.
29:30
It you got lucky. You know, but they yes, yeah,
29:34
they didn't take, they didn't take after me.
29:37
But yeah, they don't. They're not needing that latest
29:41
and greatest thing. But we also didn't buy them the
29:44
latest and greatest. Like, yeah, they didn't want for
29:46
nothing, but it wasn't like over the topness.
29:49
There's a fine line and balance. You have to try to find
29:53
disappear. You have a Louis Vuitton purse.
29:56
Not just one. No, OK, just one.
30:00
But I mean not just. One.
30:01
I think I have 5 or 6 now so. Right.
30:05
So some, some people. They're just like your comic
30:08
books. This is my thing.
30:09
This is my thing. No, I get it.
30:11
I understand why you got it. Yeah.
30:12
I mean, I mean, I always, I always joke why I don't have a
30:16
boat or I don't have a trailer or any of those things.
30:18
Is I've got my comic books and and The funny thing is, if I did
30:22
sell my comic books, I'd love to have a classic Mustang.
30:25
Like I would take that money and buy a classic car.
30:28
So that's like, that's if you're asking me what cool thing I
30:31
would love, I for some reason love classic cars.
30:33
So I'd go get myself a classic car with that money.
30:35
But I always joke that my car money is in the comic books.
30:38
Right. Well, I do know.
30:40
So some of these kids, the way that they're trying to skirt
30:42
around this is they're taking like a dummy phone to school and
30:47
like giving that to be put in the in that Yoder pouch and then
30:51
keeping their real phone. So, you know, they're kids,
30:54
they're gonna figure out a way around this.
30:56
They always will. So do you think that there
30:58
should be a Well, OK, let's say that that you do give them the
31:02
fake phone and all that. Don't you think there should be
31:04
punishment if you discover that you do have an actual and
31:07
they're allowed to take them out?
31:08
What between classes and lunch? Yeah, yeah.
31:12
They're they're. They're not during, right?
31:14
So they're just like completely restricted.
31:17
And also it's kind of been crazy is kids now get what is it,
31:21
iPads or laptops. Yeah, I mean either or or both.
31:26
We had. None of that.
31:26
You know, when we were kids, we had to go to the computer room.
31:30
Yeah, there was one room in the library that had like 3 or 4
31:32
computers. Yeah.
31:33
That was what you had you. That wasn't.
31:35
That wasn't in the class, so. No typing class.
31:37
Oh my God I hated typing class. Right.
31:39
So it's, so it, I mean, I think that technology is amazing and
31:43
it's neat that kids can have those, the newest tools and
31:46
other stuff that we had. I think that that's, I would
31:48
much rather have my tax money go on things like that to where
31:52
they're at. Yeah, we, they're so funny.
31:54
We were talking on air a couple days ago about running start,
31:58
how lucky kids are to have running start and things that we
32:02
didn't. I mean.
32:02
Running start is fabulous. Well, it would have been nice of
32:05
my kids have done it so. Right.
32:07
I, we were talking on the air the fact that Patty said that
32:11
Patty said she couldn't wait to get out of school, so she got
32:13
out early. What I did with my credits is I
32:17
front loaded my credits so my credits were done by the time my
32:21
sophomore year was done. I mean and the.
32:25
Required. Classes done 2 1/2 years.
32:27
So yeah, so I had already banged out the requirement.
32:30
So I had about a year and a half where to me it was, I was
32:34
coasting basically just to get out of school.
32:37
And it would have been great to be able to leave school with an
32:39
AA or something. Right, and for certain kids,
32:42
which my kids weren't into the social aspect of school.
32:47
And so they really thrived with running start.
32:50
I think, you know, because their maturity was a little bit more
32:54
than the high school standard maturity.
32:55
And so they did fine in college and in their college classes
32:59
because you have really have to manage yourself when you do
33:02
running start. And so these kids really have
33:05
they have to which they're they have criteria for how you can
33:08
qualify. And so they they really have to
33:10
be able to manage themselves and be good at at just whatever it.
33:15
Is did all four do running start?
33:17
No, Benjamin tried. He's going to be so mad at me
33:20
for this. That's OK.
33:22
So he tried and then he like flunked out out of the first
33:28
quarter, which he was one of the kids who struggles in school.
33:32
We think he had dyslexia, but the school would never really
33:35
test him for it, thankfully because of sports.
33:38
I think that's the only reason that that kid did tried to do
33:42
well in school. He saw if you got AD or an F,
33:44
you know, how you would get benched for soccer or basketball
33:47
or whatever it is. And so he saw that happen to his
33:49
friends and how embarrassing that was and he did not want
33:53
that to happen to him. And but he really struggled.
33:55
But he at least tried to maintain like AC minus right,
34:00
right. So his classes, but he tried to
34:02
do he signed himself up for running start.
34:04
I did not pressure him to do running start because I knew and
34:08
he's the social he really did well in the social aspect of
34:12
high school and school and I did not pressure him to do running
34:16
start. He on his own went to the little
34:19
orientation and decided he wanted to do it.
34:21
And I signed the paperwork and was like, OK, but you realize
34:25
this is a big commitment. And he ended up flunking out.
34:29
And so he had to spend like 1/4 in the alternative school that
34:34
Natchez has so that he can make up those classes so that he
34:38
could then graduate on time with his classmates.
34:41
But as an adult, he did get his A A a couple years ago.
34:45
So he just wasn't ready at the time.
34:47
Well, your kids were. The other kids were ready and.
34:50
Well, see, I mean again, you have 4 kids, they all have
34:52
distinct personalities. Yes, and and again, I mean not I
34:59
like when you talk about your kids like Benjamin, like I'm a
35:04
huge supporter of not everybody has to go to college.
35:07
So it's like if there's a trade school like and Benjamin is very
35:10
much more of a tradesman, you know, different things like
35:13
that. And I love that about that
35:15
because that's why I always support like, I think I mean
35:19
private school. Yeah.
35:20
I think if you want to go to private school, you pay.
35:22
I'm sorry, you want to be hoity toity.
35:24
You pay, you go to. Harvard.
35:26
No, whatever you want to do, you pay.
35:28
But for me, I've always felt that trade schools or community
35:32
Community College level should be free for anybody who wants to
35:35
better themselves. That should not have to be a pay
35:38
for play. Now, if you want to go to a
35:40
fancy private college, you know, like, like, let's say your kid
35:43
wants to go to Phoenix or, you know, the university, wherever
35:45
out of town, then you should pay for those things.
35:48
But at at the at the local level, Walla Walla Community
35:51
College or Yakima Community College, actually, you know,
35:54
maybe even Perry Tech to some extent, I don't know.
35:57
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's a trade school.
35:59
I think those things should be available for for kids and, and,
36:04
and, and again, I don't, I mean, I think that that now if you
36:07
want that higher education or that different, I think there's
36:09
those levels that you pay for. But yeah, so every, every kids
36:13
different. So when talking about the cell
36:14
phones, I mean, you're gonna have some good kids that are
36:17
gonna abide by it and then you're gonna have kids that are
36:19
gonna are gonna cheat the system.
36:21
And so how do? You Matthew would be.
36:23
Yeah, no. So this is what would happen.
36:25
Matthew would be the kid cheating the system because he.
36:28
No, he would cheat at Candyland when he was little.
36:31
Yeah. He would count how, you know,
36:32
how many, the little with whatever the little candy that
36:36
makes you move forward. He would count like how many
36:38
people were playing and he would shuffle the cards and then he
36:41
would put the good cards where he would think he would get
36:44
them. Of course.
36:45
Yeah. And then he would cheat at cards
36:47
when he would play poker with his family.
36:49
So. So Matthew would try to find a
36:51
way to cheat the system. You know, he would be the kid
36:53
with the dummy phone. He'd be the one cheating the
36:56
system. Benjamin would be the kid that
36:58
would just go along with the rules because he's just a go
37:01
with the flow kind of kid. He wouldn't like it, but he
37:05
would do it. Jackson.
37:07
Yeah, he would go with the flow, too.
37:09
He wouldn't like it, but he would do it.
37:10
Shaylee would probably find a way to cheat the system because
37:14
this is the kid that was hiding kids when she was 4.
37:17
We've talked about this in a past podcast.
37:20
So yeah, she would definitely try to figure out a way around
37:23
this. And so then I would get the
37:25
phone call from the school that would be like, hey, we caught
37:27
your kid with their cell phone, you know, because the rules.
37:31
When did you so? When?
37:31
Do you? When do you look at from the
37:33
social media standpoint? I know that Facebook has, what,
37:38
14 and over or something like that With your kids, When did
37:42
you allow them to get on? When did you allow them to get
37:44
on social media? When they got a phone.
37:47
Yeah, Facebook. Yeah, they didn't get phones
37:49
until they were 10. And the only reason they got a
37:52
phone at 10 was because the acceleration in school
37:56
shootings. I I wanted them to at least have
38:00
that cell phone in case of an emergency.
38:02
But they also knew that they couldn't access it during
38:04
school. They knew that there were
38:06
certain rules. So if you get this privilege,
38:09
there are certain rules that come with this privilege.
38:12
And so and you have to let your kids test those boundaries and
38:16
understand that as kids, because as a adults, we have rules and
38:20
we have boundaries and we have to abide by them.
38:23
And so that's just part of teaching your child.
38:26
And they, none of them ever got in trouble for having their
38:30
phones. They didn't have them out.
38:32
Some of the teachers would make them put them in a basket, you
38:35
know, when they get through the door, that kind of thing.
38:38
And they all. Do you like that better?
38:40
Do you like that better? Like with the basket?
38:43
Or not. I mean, it's fine.
38:44
I I understand again that they are distraction, but if there is
38:48
a school shooting or emergency, like how accessible is that
38:53
going to be for all the kids in the class trying to scramble to
38:56
get their phones? So that's the way I look at it
39:00
like that's a hot. Topic I don't, I don't.
39:02
Yeah, I wish I, I wish your, I wish I had your answer on that.
39:05
I don't think there is a clear answer.
39:07
It's just what's best at the time as a parent.
39:11
Like school shootings are ratcheting every year.
39:14
There are more and more and more.
39:15
And now there are kids that have been in one school shooting that
39:18
have now been part of two or in college now.
39:21
And it happens in college, which it could happen.
39:23
I have two kids in college and it could very well happen for
39:26
them. And it's just, it's so much more
39:30
a concern now as a parent that that's why I would want them to
39:33
have it. I mean, that's the only reason
39:35
why I I understand they're a distraction, but that is the
39:38
only reason. I I did an article, I know
39:41
Prosser cuz Kyron used to go to Prosser.
39:43
So I'm still on their mailing list and they send out their
39:46
phone guidelines. And I mean, my kids have been
39:48
graduated forever, but I'm still on some of these the mailing
39:51
list of it. So.
39:53
But yeah, I but gosh, the problem is every child's
39:57
different. That's the problem.
39:58
It's the, you know, it's like I I'm with you, you know, if
40:01
everybody and. You don't have parents like me
40:02
that would say, OK, you this is a privilege.
40:06
If you break that privilege, I'm going to take your cell phone
40:09
away for a week. I mean, you don't have parents
40:10
like me that would no you. Have parents who.
40:12
Think those rules. You have parents who think it's
40:14
a right. Oh yeah, definitely.
40:17
You've got, you've got parents who think that, that it's a
40:19
right to, you know, have a cell phone, They have a, they have a
40:22
right to walk in with Starbucks. They don't have to.
40:25
They don't have to get rid of their Starbucks.
40:27
So yeah, yeah, that's is Starbucks.
40:30
Like the gum. But like back in our day, it
40:32
was. Yeah, now it's Starbucks gum.
40:34
No one cares about gum. No one cares about gum.
40:36
I or you know what? I may be out of line.
40:39
You know what I'm seeing a lot of which, And maybe it's a
40:42
status and maybe you have to educate me because you know, you
40:46
know, I mean, I'm drinking. My as I'm drinking my coffee
40:48
from the coffee that's. An awesome Starbucks.
40:50
So you know me, I'm a I'm a, I'm a non drinker, blah blah blah.
40:54
So when I'm at concerts, all I see is what energy drinks and
40:58
sell. Is it all sell?
41:00
I mean, is this all you know? Is this?
41:02
Does it taste good or is it literally people just trying to
41:05
look like that they belong? I think it's an addiction.
41:10
Energy drinks are addictive, just like coffee and other, you
41:15
know, alcohol, cigarettes I think.
41:17
Celsius because remember those like those Celsius or like you
41:20
see them now, Yeah. Celsius isn't.
41:23
Are you talking about like white claws or?
41:25
Yeah, we. Yes.
41:26
Well, I've heard, yes. White Claws, I know all.
41:27
Yeah. So.
41:28
Yeah. Yeah.
41:28
So when you're at a concert now, it's like back in the day people
41:31
would have a beer and now it's now it's these, these drinks.
41:37
I think it's kind of it's, yeah, it's bold.
41:40
People are addicted to them and it is a status thing and people
41:44
just, it's the new coffee for the Next Gen.
41:48
Z. It's just their version of
41:50
Starbucks on a different level so.
41:53
I got you. Yes.
41:54
I didn't want to just bag on poor Starbucks today, but
41:57
because I was at because I was at this concert and I'm like at
41:59
this concert and all these people like have their cell.
42:01
I think it's Celsius or whatever they got.
42:02
I'm like, well, all these energy, all the, all these
42:05
energy drinks that they got going on there so well.
42:07
At least we don't have to worry about Starbucks ever being a
42:10
sponsor. Probably not.
42:12
Yeah, not not. Yeah, a product placement.
42:15
You just gave the product placement.
42:16
We're good. Yeah, OK.
42:18
So the last few nights I've been, I have been watching the
42:21
People versus Michael Jackson. It's been on A&E, which I just
42:25
watched. They had a documentary on the
42:27
Bunny Ranch. Remember the Bunny Ranch I.
42:29
Love the Bunny ranch? Yeah, they had The Cat House on
42:32
HBO back in the day. I, I yeah, I used to watch that,
42:35
but I saw it. OK, OK.
42:39
But yeah, I watched that. With which Dennis Hoff was just
42:42
a sleazier version of Hugh Hefner.
42:45
They were 2 old white men who used their power over women to
42:50
get them to do what they wanted. Looking back now, it was gross.
42:54
But yeah, back in the day I would watch the Girls Next Door
42:57
and Cat House just like you and didn't really think anything of
43:01
it. But anyway, so the back to the
43:02
Michael Jackson documentary, so it has it has his attorney,
43:08
which if I ever get in trouble, kill somebody, whatever, I'm
43:11
hiring him. Just so you know, so just if you
43:14
need to find me a representation, just look up.
43:17
He's got the white long hair. I don't remember his name.
43:20
They had his, they had Michael Jackson's attorney.
43:22
They had some of the jurors. They had one of the prosecutors
43:25
and some other people. One guy that was a biographer of
43:28
Michael Jackson, he said he was a friend.
43:30
But some of the things he was saying, I was like, girl, you
43:32
were no friend. If like you're saying this shit.
43:36
But none of the victims were in it.
43:39
They, as far as you know, speaking for themselves or being
43:42
interviewed and I am a big believer in believing the
43:47
victims. The problem that I had watching
43:51
this documentary was the parents of the victims.
43:56
They took the money or the settlement instead of seeking
44:01
justice for their kids. So the two allegations from back
44:05
in the 90's, the parents took the settlements instead of
44:11
having him prosecuted. And so for me as a parent like
44:15
that is that is a huge problem, a huge, huge problem for me that
44:20
that would be what you would do. You would take this money.
44:23
This I mean, it's hush money basically, instead of seeking
44:26
justice for your kid. And like what parent let's their
44:29
8 year old like stay weeks with some adult?
44:34
But then again, you and I have been in the lines at meet and
44:37
greets and we see these people that lose their damn minds over
44:40
celebrities and do and say things that were going why did
44:43
you say what are you doing? So I could see where people get
44:47
blinded by fame. But still, this is your this is
44:51
your 8 year old child. So I thought it was crazy.
44:54
I don't know what you think about it as far as old SO.
44:58
So for Michael, for Michael, I'm a little torn on some situations
45:01
with Michael because here's a couple, here's a couple things.
45:03
So Corey Feldman, yes, says absolutely nothing happened.
45:08
So did Macaulay Culkin. Macaulay Culkin says nothing
45:10
absolutely happened, Lisa. Marie Presley Macaulay
45:13
testified. Yep, Lisa Marie Presley said she
45:16
never saw one iota of any any of these things happening.
45:21
The mom of his children, Debbie. Whatever, right?
45:24
None of his own children. Yeah.
45:26
None of his own children. Do I believe that Michael
45:29
Jackson never grew up? Absolutely.
45:31
Do I believe Peter Pan? Absolutely.
45:34
Do I believe that these things? Now, again, there's that old
45:39
adage there where there's smoke, there's fire.
45:42
So I, I, I am concerned one of those things is like, I go back
45:48
to what you just said was it was interesting that that they both
45:51
times took a payout or they, they would take a payout.
45:56
And, and the kids who who were friends with him, they hadn't
46:02
gotten money yet, no payout or anything were interviewed and
46:06
they said nothing happened. And then later some of these
46:11
kids are that are now adults have flip-flopped and have said
46:14
things have happened, but they have also gotten paid for their
46:19
stories. And so that really clouds it
46:22
like you're getting paid because you wouldn't have gotten paid if
46:26
you would have said, oh, nothing happened.
46:28
And so. And, and again, it goes back to
46:31
#1 even from the parents standpoint of getting rich or
46:37
those, those, those particular situations.
46:39
So I think in the very first allegation, Michael's lawyers
46:43
were like Michael's. Michael was like, I want to
46:45
fight this, I'm going to fight this, yes.
46:46
And his and they were like, no, just pay the kid 20 million,
46:48
he'll go away and you don't have to worry about it.
46:51
And. And they talk about that in the
46:53
documentary. His attorney that fought the
46:55
allegations in 2005. He says that he says, like
46:59
Michael wanted to, you know, try and beat this, but the attorneys
47:03
told him it would be in his best interest to settle.
47:05
So his attorney makes that very clear in this document.
47:08
Yeah, and, and I think that there was and I think that the,
47:10
you know, there was, Yeah, multiple times of what do you,
47:16
what do they want? Or they want to, I mean, but
47:17
see, that's I'm with you. It's like, for me, it's like
47:21
there's something rotten in Denmark.
47:23
It's my great worry, you know, I'm saying rotten in Denmark
47:25
when it's like, so my so Michael Jackson did this horrific thing
47:30
to your kid and how we settle as me.
47:33
Is he writing a check for $20 million?
47:36
I don't like that. As as a period if anybody wrongs
47:40
my child like oh you're done. Hold grudges against kids that
47:43
did shit to my kids. We've already talked about this.
47:46
I'm a huge death penalty person, so I'm 100.
47:50
That's the one. That's the one Republican thing
47:52
that, you know, I line up with. It's like I'm an eye.
47:55
I'm an eye for an eye kind of guy with when it comes to that.
47:57
And so if you are a child molester, your ass is done.
48:01
I mean, I, I, you're done. And so if, if those allegations
48:05
were true or if I, if that had happened to my kid, there's no
48:08
amount of money, no, that I, that they're going to pay.
48:10
I don't care what they say. I'm not doing it.
48:13
But then on the other, so the flip side of that coin is this
48:16
is Michael Jackson. So do you think those parents
48:19
were We can't go up against, we can't beat Michael Jackson.
48:24
So say this goes to trial or this, whatever, whatever, you
48:27
know, we're going up against this huge giant star that it
48:31
would be in the best interest for us to take the money.
48:34
I don't know. About that, I think.
48:36
I think that the the poor thing about Michael Jackson was his
48:41
maturity level. I'm concerned about, I mean
48:44
like, like. It's kind of like, look at
48:45
Britney Spears now, like, right? Oh my gosh, yes, I, I look at
48:48
her all the time on Instagram. What are you talking about?
48:50
I, I'm, I'm enjoying the pics. You know she can take away the
48:53
little rose. Not in the same way.
48:55
I don't look at her the same way.
48:57
But yes, I see her on Instagram. I'm going, Oh my God.
49:00
No, no, yes. She did not.
49:01
She was not able to have a childhood and.
49:03
She no, she's no, I, I again, I we make joke.
49:07
We, we make jokes about it. But yeah, I am concerned for her
49:10
mental health. Yes, definitely.
49:12
And some of the things that she's doing and, and even from
49:15
the, the Michael Jackson thing, it's like, yeah, I'm, I'm, I've
49:19
always been torn about Michael, which I, and I also, I also
49:24
think that I also think that people set him up to some extent
49:26
too, I do believe because of his immaturity.
49:29
Because interesting enough, Corey Feldman and Macaulay
49:32
Culkin, or at least Corey Feldman once said, is the the
49:37
worst thing that Michael Jackson ever did to him is once he
49:40
become a became an adult. So once you grew up, once you
49:43
weren't that cute kid anymore, he would lose, he would lose
49:47
interest in you. And that was one of the things
49:50
Corey Feldman had mentioned was was.
49:51
Something I think they brought up in this documentary.
49:54
Yeah, I think when. One of the kids kind of, I don't
49:57
know. How old?
49:58
Yeah, once one of those things where and then that's what they
50:01
were talking about. Once they got to a certain age,
50:04
that's what. And I think they did bring it up
50:05
in one of the documentaries where.
50:06
Well, he didn't want to. Now.
50:07
Michael Jackson didn't want to be You're, You're.
50:09
Gonna hang out, right? Didn't.
50:10
Want to hang out, you know, and you're like, what?
50:12
And so that I mean, from Corey Feldman, because I remember
50:14
Corey Feldman talking about it a lot.
50:16
He adamantly denies Michael Jackson did anything, period.
50:20
But he also said the only thing that hurt him was the
50:23
abandonment of Michael Jackson. Which one of the kids that's in
50:27
this documentary he talks about? About he felt like Michael
50:31
abandoned. Him yes yeah I don't remember
50:34
the story leading up to that so I'll.
50:36
Have to go back and watch. It now but.
50:38
But that I mean, now I can see that from like, man, you have
50:40
this great relationship and then the minute you turn will not
50:43
and. Then it's cold Turkey.
50:45
Right. But, yeah, I mean, he's just
50:46
not. Yeah, you're an adult now.
50:47
And I'm not, you know, I'm just not.
50:49
So yeah, that's a it's a good one.
50:52
I think that this, the Michael Jackson thing's gonna be debated
50:55
forever, but I I'm with you on one. 100% not alive anymore.
50:58
Well, and I think and I struggle, I always will
51:01
struggle, same as you when people take payouts.
51:05
Yeah. I don't, I don't buy.
51:06
I don't I I don't buy their word.
51:09
No, because you, especially when it comes to your kids, yeah.
51:12
Yeah, and so, but and, and do I and do I think that some parents
51:16
are waxed enough to go, hey, that's Michael Jackson, Can you
51:18
get close to Michael Jackson? Yeah, because they, they do that
51:23
they the, they being in that orbit, you know.
51:27
OK, let's, let's put it into a better, even better perspective
51:30
for you. Cato Kaelin No, I'm saying OJ
51:34
you're you're you're you're in O JS orbit basically.
51:37
So so when you're a celebrity, when you're when you're Kim
51:40
Kardashian, you're Michael Jackson, when you are a hanger,
51:43
honor around celebrity. Great.
51:47
You know, you orbit around that and, and you feel like in your
51:50
own sense that you're a celebrity or you want to taste
51:53
that. Similar access to things that
51:55
they get that you wouldn't as just a normal person.
51:59
Well, it's the same thing. It's the same thing as I always.
52:01
It's the the Kevin Costner situation when his wife left him
52:06
is like, well, I have to, I have to live in the same manner that
52:09
you live because that, you know, well, no, we were married and I
52:12
so I guess I should throw throw that out to you.
52:15
This would be a great way to get in this podcast.
52:17
So I'm gonna just throw it out there.
52:19
I think Jay does a little better than you do, Michelle,
52:21
financially. Just throw it out there.
52:24
They're not saving numbers or anything like that.
52:25
Right. So do you think because you've
52:28
been married again, you've been married a long time to Jay?
52:30
Yeah. And if you guys got a divorce,
52:32
Yeah. Would you be one of those people
52:34
that like, hey, he's made me accustomed to the lifestyle that
52:38
I enjoy? To these Louis Vuittons.
52:40
Louis Vuitton versus and I expect even though we're
52:44
divorced, he going to keep paying for my for my life.
52:48
Or are you like, hey, man, bygones, big bygones, an
52:52
amicable, we'll call it an amicable divorce.
52:54
You know what I'm? Saying if, if, if the kids were
52:57
still younger, then I would do whatever I could for their best
53:02
interests. But that's also because my dad
53:05
did not pay child support for a few years.
53:07
And that's kind of why we struggled.
53:09
And so again, that childhood trauma, I would do everything I
53:12
could to make sure that my kids were financially taken care of.
53:18
But me like now I'm a functioning adult with no
53:21
children so I wouldn't expect him to have to take.
53:25
Care of me and I don't know what celebrity recently but it was in
53:28
the news gosh I wish I could think of the top of my head but
53:31
the the person that that's leaving the relationship is
53:33
demanding $75,000 a month in support which is.
53:37
Crazy. That's, you know, and and that
53:40
goes back to the Kevin Costner divorce, not that you know, and
53:42
I'm sure she got paid out, but she said, well, I want to live
53:44
in the same neighborhood. I mean, if they have kids and
53:48
you share custody, that would be easy to go back and forth from
53:52
house to house. And that was her OK, so that was
53:54
her point. Now, you just brought it up.
53:56
So they have kids together and she said that the wife that's
54:00
leaving or the the divorce says that there should be no
54:04
difference if he's at Kevin Costner's house or if he's at
54:07
the the ex wives house. I mean, I don't know about that.
54:10
I understand wanting. How's the two near each other
54:13
that makes the going back and forth?
54:16
Right sharing that was her argument that was her argument
54:19
that my kid is accustomed to live in Kevin Costner lifestyle.
54:23
I don't live that lifestyle and that the kids gonna be in shock
54:26
because they're they're, you know, maybe the kid would be
54:29
better. Off no no I understand the house
54:33
again because it is easier for the to shuttle the kid back and
54:38
forth it's less traumatic for them.
54:40
I have been the kid that's been handed off from parent to parent
54:43
so I get it. So I completely understand that.
54:46
But the lifestyle thing her want her saying that oh he needs to
54:50
still have the lifestyle No no and kids will be fine if they
54:53
are are not if they don't have access to.
54:57
Kids. Three iPads or whatever it is
54:59
that they're. Going to have about dads,
55:00
They're resilient, kids are resilient and if you're both
55:03
good parents. It's not going to, yeah, it's
55:06
not going to phase them. Yeah, what you know, yes, your,
55:09
your one parent is exuberantly rich beyond rich and and you're
55:13
getting $75,000 a month. You're OK too.
55:16
Right. But but, but in her mind, it was
55:18
not enough. Things fun to do with the child,
55:20
like you cook with them, you do things that are they wouldn't be
55:24
able to do with their dad because he's busy making all the
55:27
money on this. Well, the Michael Jackson thing
55:28
to me, I will always be torn on because we don't know the story.
55:31
We don't know the like you said, people took payouts and, and
55:36
attorneys told him to settle different things.
55:39
That to me it's like I guess if I, if I got accused of something
55:42
like that, guess what mofos, we're going to court No, we're.
55:47
And I'm trying to because we grew up with him and so I'm
55:50
trying to not have that rose colored glasses of like this is
55:54
Michael Jackson I. No, I think anything.
55:57
I loved him growing. Up No, no.
55:59
Our generation, that's huge. And so you have to set that
56:03
aside and look at all the facts and the case and.
56:07
You, you've heard me a billion times and I'll say this and I'll
56:10
say it over and over again. I don't care if you're
56:12
Republican, Democrat. I don't care if you commit a
56:14
crime, your ass goes to jail. Yes.
56:17
And, and so I don't care if you're Michael Jackson.
56:19
I don't care if you're Taylor Swift.
56:21
You commit a crime you'll ask goes to jail.
56:23
Yeah, yeah. So.
56:25
Well, Speaking of jail, that that's going to be a good segue
56:29
into what I found. OK, OK, OK, I'll try to hold
56:34
this up. You tell me if you can see it.
56:37
What the heck? That's you and me.
56:40
Can you see it? Yeah.
56:42
Look at look at us. Wow, This was behind bars for
56:46
good. The MDA lockup thing.
56:49
Wow, that's. A good I I.
56:50
Don't recall that me either. I did not even.
56:54
Know I don't care. Wow.
56:56
We look so young. When I found this picture I went
57:00
Oh my God, no way. And I'll put it up on our.
57:05
Like Harry Potter? Yes, you barely have your eyes
57:10
open. I was like, is he trying to look
57:11
tough and mean or what's going on?
57:13
Oh yes, that's the joke. I'm sure it was I I bet.
57:16
Because we're supposed to be in jail.
57:18
Yes, locked up. Yes, yes, that.
57:21
I don't know what the hell Look, I'm going.
57:24
I got going on. I don't know what the hell.
57:26
No, no, that yes, that was definitely being goofy and
57:29
acting like I'm a hard ass going to jail.
57:32
So. I trust me.
57:33
The reason why the reason why I would never go to prison is
57:35
because I don't want to. I would be somebody's bitch and
57:37
that is not that is not how I want to end up.
57:40
That's that's probably the number one reason why I don't
57:42
commit crimes is I would end up being somebody's bitch.
57:45
And that is not how I'm going to end this world because in prison
57:50
I'm probably pretty good looking.
57:51
So no, not having. Yeah, yeah, they, they'll see
57:54
you coming in being, oh, fresh meat.
57:56
Oh yeah, look at that fresh. Meat, yeah.
57:58
Look at that fresh meat. I will put this pass on it, but
58:02
that's a great, that's a great picture.
58:04
Yeah, post it up there because that's that's hilarious.
58:06
I'll put it up on our Facebook and now.
58:08
You're going to make me dig up some of these Danger Boy
58:10
pictures, so I'll have to. I'll have to.
58:12
Yes, I want to see them. Yeah, I got to.
58:13
I got to dig them up. Because I don't think I have any
58:16
of the danger boy, I'll go back and look.
58:18
I don't think I have any of us. I think I have a picture of the
58:21
dog house. OK.
58:23
But then that that for some reason that is it I don't have.
58:26
I think I want to say these are pictures that Donna took.
58:29
Remember Donna, she, I think Donna took these.
58:31
Yeah, Donna took these pictures. So yeah, there's a, there's a
58:33
role of it. OK.
58:35
All right. Well, I'll be expecting those
58:36
for next week then. How's that sound?
58:38
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