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Who Do We Blame When Buying Altered Cards? · Sports Card Clubhouse

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In our massive country, there are card collectors throughout
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the land participating in the hobby.
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There's Mike of Junk Wax Hero and Greg of Midlife Cards, and
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while distance may separate them, here is where they come
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together to talk cards. Hey buddy, how are you doing
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today? Hey, buddy.
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Hey, buddy. Doing well, Greg, we've this.
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We have a lively episode today. I'm excited about it.
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There's a lot going on and, and I know that we've got a lot of
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topics, but I've got a card topic I really want to hear your
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thoughts on. And I know you have a card topic
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that you want to talk about, but then we have some non card
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topics that we need to do a little bit of follow up on as
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well. Let me just start with this.
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I have already recorded episode #1 of Midlife Card Chase, the
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new show on the Sports Card Clubhouse with myself and David
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Chase of Sports Cards Live. And it's fun.
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It's it's pretty fun. I can't wait to listen David
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Chase is he's a riot. I really enjoyed hanging out
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with him at the at Strongsville. He's funny, he's smart.
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He's, I don't know, I just, I think he's going to be great.
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Yeah, I'm excited about it. He's got charisma and he's
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become he And I, it's weird because, you know, we met for
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the first time. I, I recognize his name because
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he had commented some on my, on my channel and he had submitted
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some cards on the community show and tell.
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But then I met him at the West Coast Card Show in February and
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he's become a really good friend.
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So it's it's fun to add him to the fold.
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And again, if you recognize the name, Saturdays he is a regular
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on Sports Cards Live with Jeremy Lee, which is fantastic.
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And then you. So my show with David is going
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to be every other week and in those off weeks you've got a
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show and you've got some regular guests lined up.
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So tell us about that. Yeah.
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So every four weeks, well, I'm back to doing this week in
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sports cards, which was very popular when I was doing it work
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kind of blew up over the winter and and I'm bringing it back
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every other week and so every other session.
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So every four weeks Teapot will be Co hosting with me and every
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other session on the other side of that every four weeks.
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It's a little confusing. It'll be Chris Sewell, so that's
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some heavy hitters Co hosting with me on that and that this
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week in sports cards will be every other week rotating with
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midlife card chase. Correct.
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And I I'm excited about it. I don't think I'm recording my
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first episode for a few more weeks cause of some life stuff
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getting away. We might record 1 next week,
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I'll see. OK, well if not, let me know and
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maybe David Chase and I could go back-to-back or something to
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fill the gap because we want to get some regularity going.
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All right. OK, Do we want to get right in?
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What do we want to get right into first?
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I feel like maybe I know that we have some follow up and some
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follow. I did a video on Wednesday and
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David Chase asked the question about Oreos and I shared my
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thoughts, which were, quite frankly, they were, they were
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perfect thoughts. And there was a lot of blowback.
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There was a lot of blowback about the Oreo thing, including
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from a very close friend of mine.
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Mookie Chilson says the cream in the middle is trash.
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He only likes the cookie. I'm like, mook, what are we
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doing? I'm flabbergasted.
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I don't even. I liked Mookie.
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This, I don't know. I don't even know what to say
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anymore. What is happening?
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I don't even know. I don't even know what is true
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anymore. Like what?
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What? Who am I?
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Who are you? Is is this all real?
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I mean, he doesn't. He likes just the cookie.
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I often will pick the cookie off and throw it away and I'll offer
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it up to people in my family. Anybody want this?
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Nobody ever wants it. No, you throw it out for the.
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Squirrels, they don't want it. No, the squirrels just look at
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it and go, that's garbage, that's trash.
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How dare you, they say. So what is your take on the
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thing 'cause it started with David Chase saying the best way
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to eat Oreos is you take off 1/2 and then you get another one,
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you take off 1/2 and then you put the two creams together.
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So you have two creams and two edges and his wife is like, we
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should be buying double stuff because that's what you're
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making. You're just wasting the two
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halves. What is the right answer?
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The right answer is close to what David says, but he's
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woefully wrong. The right answer is buying
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double stuffs, taking one of the cookies off of two of them, and
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squishing them together. And then you have quad stuffs.
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And that's better than mega stuff.
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No, the mega stuff is probably better.
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I never can find the mega stuffs.
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It's pretty rare that I was able to find them and then now
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they've started showing up all of a sudden.
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Here's the thing though, Greg, the best thing to do is to buy
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Golden Oreos, an 8 pack, The 8 pack of golden Oreos.
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Are you ready for this? I'm ready.
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I love the golden Oreos. Put that down in the script.
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Golden Oreos are fantastic. Go ahead.
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You don't get the chocolate in your teeth from a regular Oreo,
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and they're delicious. So you buy the 8 pack of golden
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Oreo double stuff. That's important.
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Then you buy a four pack of Reese's Peanut Butter Cups,
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normal, the original arena recess peanut butter cups, and
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then you put one peanut buttercup in between 2 double
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stuffed golden Oreos. My gosh.
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And eat it. It's the greatest thing.
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I have to give a shout out to my friend Phil.
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I I got, I just got the chills. I just got the chills, Mike.
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I don't know why I'm fat, Greg, but my friend Phil gave me this
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idea. Probably, yeah, 12 years ago,
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I'm guessing. And I've been doing it ever
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since. Occasionally it's rare because
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it's a treat, but I just did it last week.
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It's it's amazing. You got to try it and and report
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back. I'm clearly, clearly going to
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try it and I'm clearly going to report back and I the question
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is, I don't know how I'm going to be able to control myself
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from going down to the store before the show ends.
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Well, I love that. I love that idea and I love the
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golden Oreos and I love the double stuffed and the people
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who say that the cream filling is trash.
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I just I'm I'm just beside. Myself, yeah.
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We can both agree though that milk is trash, right?
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Milk is disgusting, dude. It's milk is disgusting.
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I I'm going to be honest with you right now.
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I'm going to be dead serious. I have been on this planet for
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46 years. I have never had a glass of
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milk. Wow, not even a not.
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The only milk I and this, I'm being dead serious.
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I've had a glass of chocolate milk, sure, but I've never,
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ever, I've not had a single glass of milk.
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And you know what else I'm going to tell you something else.
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And people say you need the calcium.
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I've never broken a bone. I broke my thumb once.
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That doesn't count. So when when we were kids in the
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80s and 90s, they had all that milk propaganda and our parents
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bought into it and forced us to have milk.
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Your parents were smarter than my parents.
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I had to have milk every night at dinner.
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I wouldn't be able to do it. I would have.
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I would have. Gagged.
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So gross. I have not had it since I was
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probably, I don't know, 151617 years old.
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All right, I want to talk about my topic first, 'cause I, I get
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fired up, you know, sometimes I listen to a video and I get, I
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get worked up and I, I like, I need to talk to somebody about
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this. And I do want to throw out right
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off the bat on I'm going to put this on the screen in case
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people are watching the Extra Innings episode.
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We, you know, we're we're lucky enough to have Jake of Wax pack
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Wisdom and Matt from Providence to regular extra innings
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episodes. And then occasionally we also
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get Tony Southern Collector and Mike Petty doing Extra Innings
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episodes, and they're fantastic. And in today's Extra Innings
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episode, they talked about something.
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Have you heard it yet, Mike? I have not.
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It's on my list for tomorrow. The Friday afternoons are good
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catch up days for me. We're.
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We're technic, we record these on Thursday, so everybody out
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there, just keep that in mind. So this posted to the sports Car
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clubhouse on Thursday and what they talked about was something
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that happened at a card show with Matt from Providence as
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being one of the top dealers in New England, wherever the heck
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that is. And he said, he said what
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happened. Well, what happened was, and,
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and I I'm paraphrasing, but a guy bought a beat up 57 tops Ted
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Williams and he brought it. He bought it from Matt while
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back. Matt then sent it in for grading
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and and the card came back altered.
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Now Matt Matt says that beaters thought that this card was a
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beater like it's that was that bad of a card and they wouldn't
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they wouldn't hold her it and they said it was altered.
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And so the guy brought it back to Matt and he said, I want to
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return this because it's altered and Matt gave him his money
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back, which stand up move by Matt to do that.
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But what it leads me the question it's leading me to, and
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I want to throw out two other things that happened recently.
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So this is already been kind of on my mind is at the
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Strongsville show, Mike Moynihan bought a bunch of autographed
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cards. He submitted some of those to
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JSA because some people in the comments were like, those aren't
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good. So he submitted a handful of
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them to JSA and all but one of them came back is not good.
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And and so he brought him back to the dealer and it was like
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dude. And so the guy on the ones that
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were not good, the guy gave him his money back.
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Mike didn't return the other cards that he bought and he
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ended up doing a show talking about it and he was frustrated
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about it. He ended up ripping up the
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autographed cards on on his show.
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And then another story. And I know I'm going long, but
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I, I want to lay it all out there and why this has been on
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my mind when I was in Strongsville.
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I'm, I'm walking down the aisle and I see Tony, Southern
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collector Tony and he's talking to a guy who had just bought
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some really high end, and I mean really high end raw cards like
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AI want to say it was like a 53 tops Jackie Robinson, maybe like
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a 54 tops Jackie Robinson. He ended up having some clips of
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it in a video that he did and they they're raw cards.
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And we're talking they had to have been big dollar because
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these were really, really nice cards.
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And the whole time I was thinking to myself, man, it's a
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lot of money to spend on a raw card.
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So with all of that, my question is where does the dealer's
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responsibility end or a card and whether it's altered, whether
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it's real, whether it's an authentic autograph?
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And where does the collector, where does their responsibility
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start? Is there a Gray area in there?
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Is it OK for people to buy raw cards, unauthenticated
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autographs, return them? Or is it sort of like buyer
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beware? Like where, where it where does
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everything go? Where does it start?
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Where does it end for the dealer?
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Where does it start? Where does it end for the
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collector? I think it's buyer beware
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immediately, but there's a big difference between Mike Moynihan
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buying cards at a show and then going to CGC at the show and
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saying, hey, are these legit? And then bringing them back to
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the dealer. And and alternatively buying a
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card from Matt from Providence, waiting six months to get your
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card back and then going back to Matt and saying, hey, this came
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back altered. I think that is nuts to do that.
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Yeah, go ahead. But good for him for getting his
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money back and good for Matt for giving it back to him.
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I'm just not in favor of doing that.
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I wouldn't do it myself. I, I, I think it's, I've said
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this for years. When I buy raw, unauthenticated
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autographs, I take the risk. Yeah, I I agree.
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I completely agree. So the reason it was different
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and, and, and I don't want to put words in your mouth.
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I just wanted to clarify where your stance is, because Mike
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checked for authentication like right there on the spot, it was
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different because he went across the room.
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It was technically a different room, but and he submitted them
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for authentication. They said no and then he went
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back across the room. So if that's the case, at what
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point can can Mike no longer return the cards or reach back
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out to the dealer? You're because you're saying
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because it was there on the site on the spot, it's OK to return
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them? When is it no longer OK to
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return them? When does the dealer's
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responsibility end? Well, I think that Mike's
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situation was a little bit different.
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If I'm remembering correctly, he didn't even ask for his money
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back. He just went back to tell the
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guy that the autographs were largely fake and that guy
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offered to pay him his money back.
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I don't think Mike expected to get his money back or asked for
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his money back, if I'm remembering correctly.
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Great. You're probably.
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Right by the way. Great, I usually AM false.
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I think that your your responsibility as a dealer ends
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as soon as the card and money change hands.
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You are not promising that your card is legitimate.
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You're making no guarantees. It is just, hey, I have this raw
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card. You can examine all you want,
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but once you have walked away from my desk and my my table and
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you've paid me money, that card is yours.
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And that's. Serious for other people's
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opinions on this. Yeah.
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Oh, I'm very I'm extremely curious because returning a card
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a long time later see and it it's it there.
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I I feel like generalities. I agree with everything you're
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saying. There's nothing that I've
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disagreed with so far. Well.
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There for the scenario at you first grade, I buy a card from
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Matt from Providence. I go when I clean it using Kurtz
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Card Care and then I send it to PSA and PSA says this is
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altered. Do I go back to Matt and say,
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hey, you sold me an altered card?
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That was literal. Like that was exactly what they
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were saying in the episode. That's that literally that was
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Matt's thing is, I feel like I'm opening a can of worms where who
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knows what the guy has done with the card from the time I sold it
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to now. So now does everybody have free
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reign to go try to clean them and clean them up and then, you
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know, press them and then come back to me later because it
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didn't work out for them. Like that's part of it, you
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know, and, and when dealers are selling things, you always want
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to be working with ethical dealers.
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And an ethical dealer that we highly recommend is our good
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friend Chris Sewall, who is, is as as ethical as they come.
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He's a fantastic dealer. He's a friend of ours.
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And so if you're looking to sell your collection or some of your
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collection, Chris Sewell, Collector Investor dealer, in
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that order, again, you can go to his website via a link on our
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channel, the Sports Card Clubhouse or go directly at
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Collector Investor dealer.com. You can e-mail him at
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sewellsportscards@gmail.com. And if you trust my, can you
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trust me and you trust our opinions and recommendations, we
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feel strongly that you can trust Chris to be treated well.
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He's going to treat you right. Would you agree with that, Mike?
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I would. And I think it's really neat
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that in that garage photo of himself, he has cloned himself
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and he's he's, there are three of him at least.
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And he's able to sort cards faster.
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It's it's pretty neat. I got to talk to him about that.
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So in yeah, I think that I think, See.
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But then there's a fine line too.
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What about the dealer who knows the cards are fake, who knows
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that the autographs are fake? He faked them, but he said you
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can inspect them all you want, but as soon as you leave, you
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can't return them. But he knows that they're fake.
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So the part of the problem is a lot to me, a lot of stuff.
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It goes back to intent. If that dealer bought a
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collection of autographs which he believed were real, he was
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told they were real. He was told they were acquired
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by some kid going to games and stuff and then he sells them.
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So now he has to give you your money back because you bought a
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card that he thought was real. That apparently the opinion of
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the authenticator is that it's not real and it even might be
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real. So it makes it tough at times
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because if the intent is the guy knows it's a fake card.
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Now I bought a card. This is probably 5 or 6 years
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ago now. I bought a card at a show from a
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dealer who just had boxes and boxes of three rows.
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And I was just digging through them cheap stuff.
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And a lot of the stuff wasn't priced yet.
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And it was like he, he just set up as a dealer 'cause he took
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the stuff out of the closet and he brought it to the show and,
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and one of the cards in there was a USFL Steve Young card.
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And it wasn't a cheap card. It wasn't crazy expensive.
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And I think that he thought it was legit because it had just
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been in these boxes forever. I don't think it's legit.
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In investigating it and really looking at it, I don't think
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it's legit. I've seen the dealer since at
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shows and whenever I see him, I go, that's the guy.
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I don't know if he knew it was fake.
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I don't know if he didn't know it was fake, but I felt like
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when I bought that raw card, part of it was it was a a better
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deal than if if it was in an 8 or a nine holder, A7 holder.
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And part of the reason it's a better deal is because there's a
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layer of risk involved. And I was accepting that risk in
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buying that unauthenticated item.
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And so I thought like cause 'cause I wouldn't do that.
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Now I had another time. I bought a Gaylord Rookie,
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Gaylord Perry rookie card and I sent it in to PSA and it came
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back mid sized. And I'm like, I'm not going to
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go bring it back to the dealer and try to get my money back.
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Ironically enough, I then sent it to SGC 'cause I didn't think
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it was mid sized. I I I thought it was legit size.
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I sent it to SGC and it got holdered.
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Like I think that it should have gotten holdered but.
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Did it get great because SGC will will hold her men sized
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cards. It got a grade OK, so, but it
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crossed my mind when I bought it and it came back men sized from
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PSA is I was like, do I say something to the dealer?
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Do I what do I do? And and again it went back to
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well, no, I got a good deal on this because it wasn't graded,
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because it wasn't authenticated and because it was raw.
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So I've never returned a card. I've never brought a card back
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because I think that's part of the deal when you buy something
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that's unauthenticated or ungraded, you're nodding.
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Uh oh. He's reaching for something.
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I have in my hand here 10 unauthenticated autographs.
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I took the risk on almost all. Some of these I did TTM, but I
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took the risk on all of them. I, I flow, but I just dropped
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one on the floor. Remind me when we're done.
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Now you're taking the risk because it's your responsibility
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to remind me not to step on it. So you, you talked about intent
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and there's no way for you to know the dealer's intent.
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There's no way for you to prove the dealer's intent unless
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something weird happens and the authentication of cards or
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autographs. Is it the most forgotten about
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reason to get your card graded? It's the most important reason
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to get your card graded with a legitimate third party grader.
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And same thing with autographs. You know I can I, I believe this
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Mia Hamm autograph is legitimate.
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I sent it off. I paid 100 bucks for it.
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Better be. I believe my triple auto on this
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Carlton Fisk rookie is legitimate, but I won't know for
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sure. And even then you're still not
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100% because third party graders still get it wrong occasionally.
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I won't know until I send it off to CGC later this week.
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Well, I won't know for a couple months before I get it back.
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But you know, C3 grading. I just did a video yesterday or
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the day before on C3 grading and how they graded a Babe Ruth 1916
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baseball card. I believe that card is fake.
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They are passing it off on their social media as real and they're
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saying it's worth $60,000. And I, in my video, I pointed
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out that they, they make no promise of authenticity.
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They say, we try to make sure your card is authentic, but
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there's no, there's really, when you look at any of the fringe
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graders, none of them put really much of anything there.
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It is none of them put much of anything on their website about
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authentication because authentication is really
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difficult. It takes a lot of expertise, it
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takes a lot of practice, it takes a lot of history
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experience. And when you're starting up a,
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and I say in your basement, I'm in my basement right now.
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When you're starting up a third party grader in your basement,
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you most likely don't have that expertise.
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And C3 grading. And I'm interviewing the owner
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of it. By the time this posts, no, it
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won't have posted yet, but I'm interviewing the owner pretty
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soon. They grade autographs too.
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And when you get AC-3 Gray, a slab in hand and it has an
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autograph on the card, you believe that that card is
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authentic and the autograph is authentic.
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And C3 is putting their name on those two things, but they're
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not authenticating either of them.
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Now, they will claim that they they do their best to
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authenticate, but I can't imagine anybody looking at that
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Babe Ruth card and saying, I believe that's real.
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I don't even think they believe it's real.
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I think they saw a press opportunity.
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Look at that thumbnail face. I mean, it's beautiful.
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Look at that card I I took. That I took that photograph
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sitting here by myself making thumbnail faces is the craziest
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thing. Like sitting here in my office
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by myself, took that photo, making that face.
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It's so stupid. I love it.
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I I agree, and similarly to that the PSA guarantee doesn't cover
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autographs. So even when you send your stuff
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to PSA and they authenticate it as a real autograph, they are
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saying we believe this to be real.
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But the PSA guarantee doesn't cover the autograph.
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It doesn't cover autographed items.
26:03
It only covers cards, which is kind of wild.
26:07
And I think I don't know how many people know that, that you
26:10
know, cuz we all talk about the PSA guarantee and they stand by
26:13
it and they'll give you your money back to find out it's fake
26:15
or whatever, but not the autographs.
26:18
And I think that's, I don't blame them because autographs
26:22
are really hard to authenticate unless you're sitting there
26:25
watching it happen. Yeah, yeah.
26:28
And I I think what, what were we talking about?
26:31
Oh, yeah, the authentic cards. I think Matt, I probably would
26:35
have done the same thing as Matt, but I also probably would
26:38
have worried and I would have come up with a, some sort of a
26:40
plan for if this happens again. And how do you prevent it from
26:44
happening? And I don't know, I, I'd have to
26:46
give it some thought, but Matt's a smart guy.
26:48
He'll come up with something. He's one of the best dealers in
26:50
New England. I mean, he's, he's probably one
26:54
of the top, yeah, top five or so, yeah, wherever New England
26:58
is. OK, now you had a topic that you
27:03
wanted to discuss. I did megabits So in our chat
27:09
the other day I I posted, so I put in a megabit for a card and
27:13
I I said I put in a small megabit and Jake of wax pack
27:17
wisdom said do you mean what? What was this joke?
27:21
It was funny. I'm trying to remember.
27:23
I can scroll back and find it I. Think, he said.
27:25
Do you mean a bid? He said.
27:27
Like a small megabit. Do you mean a bid?
27:31
And it was very, very Jake like and I, I laughed.
27:34
But the point is what? Well, I guess what to you what
27:40
is a megabit? Well, I would say.
27:44
Before I made my point, before I made my point of what a megabit
27:47
is what, What was your impression of a megabit?
27:50
My impression of a megabit is bidding way above anywhere above
27:57
you think that what the card could or should go for to ensure
28:02
that you get the card. So if it's a card that you think
28:06
will sell for about, you know, $25, you'd bid like 37.
28:12
Like just there's no way that I'm not going to get it with
28:16
this bid. To me, that's a Megabid.
28:19
Oh, that's a weak Megabid to me. So this my Megabid that I was
28:23
originally talking about was a $21.00 bid.
28:28
You know the my my Max bid was $21.00 and the card was a 2 to
28:33
$4.00 card regularly selling, consistently selling for two to
28:37
$4.00. So I am 5 to 10 Xing the the
28:42
Max. Now if you want a $25 card, $37
28:46
ain't gonna cut it. For a megabit.
28:48
I would say 60 to $80 on a card that sells for $25, that's a
28:57
megabit. But then I cancelled my $21.00
29:02
megabit because I found a better option.
29:06
I'm not gonna get into details yet because it doesn't end for a
29:08
few more days, but I found a better option on a card that
29:14
goes for 30 to $40 on average. And so I put in a 100 and 101
29:22
dollar Max bid. And to me those are megabits.
29:26
Whether I think a lot of people hear Megabit and they think
29:29
$10,000, but I it's just for me it's a bid way above what I
29:35
expect that card to go for to make sure that I secure that
29:38
card. Yeah, I, I think we have, we
29:41
have the same definition of what a megabit is.
29:44
And I think that it doesn't have to be an expensive card to be a
29:48
megabit, but but it, it is still fun to troll you when you say
29:54
you put in a megabit and the number is, is such a
29:57
ridiculously low number. It's it's just fun to, you know,
30:02
give you the. Business.
30:04
Theo had my back the whole time. Did he?
30:06
I think so. I don't remember it that way.
30:09
I don't remember Theo turning the screws a little too.
30:15
Yeah, the megabit is an interesting thing.
30:17
It's not something I do a lot because quite frankly, I, I
30:23
don't, I, I don't know, I don't buy a lot of stuff.
30:27
And then when I do, it's not usually that rare that I'm like,
30:31
I can't lose out on this opportunity.
30:35
Yeah, I don't do a lot of mega bidding.
30:38
I don't know. Greg, have you?
30:41
Have you had a circus peanut since last week?
30:45
I I haven't even thought about having a circus peanut, but you
30:49
sent me, I believe, a picture of an empty bag of circus peanuts.
30:54
And I was just happy to see that you were still upright when you
30:59
when you made it to the show today, because I figured that
31:02
would have killed you. I have a stomach of steel.
31:06
I can eat an irrational amount of junk food and still feel
31:10
perfectly fine after. Really.
31:12
Yeah. It's it's alarming.
31:14
I think I'm 47 years old and I've gained some weight.
31:18
Of course, I'm 230 lbs, but I can eat anything, any amount of
31:26
it. And my, I haven't, I haven't
31:28
vomited in 34 years, Greg. Oh my gosh.
31:33
Yeah, I if I have two pieces of pizza and a beer, I feel like
31:38
I'm dying. Like I'm like, this is it?
31:42
Like this is this is how I'm going to go out because I had
31:46
two pieces of pizza and a beer. It really sucks because like,
31:50
you go to like, you know, I went to the A's game with my dad and
31:54
Carl from Oz recently and I was like, all right, I mean, I got
31:58
to make sure that I can make it home, you know?
32:01
So it it, yeah, as I've gotten older, there's definitely
32:05
certain things that I just, my body doesn't like, I guess.
32:12
Yeah, I'm trying to lose about 15 lbs.
32:17
And so I had to force myself to not eat that entire bag in one
32:20
sitting. And so I'd take like, I'd take
32:23
like 8 or 10 of them and eat those and then try to leave the
32:27
rest of them for the next day. Yeah.
32:31
Inevitably I couldn't, though. And I would eat like 20 of them
32:34
in one sitting. And then I'd be like, I still
32:36
want to eat the rest of them. What is like if you walked down
32:41
the snack aisle and and you were by yourself and nobody was
32:46
looking, you know, and nobody knew what you're about to grab,
32:50
but you were going to grab something that occasionally, you
32:53
know, maybe every few months you go one of those please, besides
33:00
the circus peanut, what are some of the go to go to items?
33:07
So I have a a local corner store that I love.
33:09
I'm a junk food junkie and there's this local corner store
33:14
that has a lot of lot of great junk foods.
33:17
And I love the golden Oreo and peanut buttercup sandwich.
33:22
I love nutty bars, Little Debbie nutty bars and Swiss cake rolls,
33:29
or now they're just called Swiss rolls.
33:30
I think a really underrated Little Debbie snack, by the way,
33:34
is the Zebra cakes. Very underrated.
33:38
I love ice cream. I love chips and dip.
33:41
Of course. I think it's Frito Lay French
33:45
onion dip with. Like brothels?
33:48
I like the jalapeno cheddar can. Yes, that's stuff.
33:54
That's that's what I'm talking. About it's insane.
33:56
Now I got to throw this out there because as I asked you, my
34:01
little secret thing that I get and then I eat on the way home
34:04
and then, you know, I hide the wrapper under the seat so nobody
34:07
sees it along the lines of the nutty bar.
34:11
I'm hoping that you've had this before, but the Reese's sticks,
34:17
which are basically nutty bars, but they're not low quality
34:22
nutty bars. They're like.
34:24
Well hang on a second, are you saying Little Debbie is low
34:26
quality nutty bar? Well, they're not high quality.
34:30
So the, the, I mean, come on, Little Debbie, Nutty bars are
34:35
like, I mean, they're like the Walmart of nutty bars, right?
34:40
No, good Lord. My wife's are not my wife.
34:44
My daughter said something the other day.
34:46
I want to get your take on this and then we'll wrap this up.
34:49
She said ham is the Walmart of meats.
34:56
What is your take on that? Ham is the Walmart of meats.
35:01
Now I have to 1st preface it by saying this.
35:04
I've giggled about that comment at least 80 times since Easter
35:11
when it was when it was said. How do you feel about ham is the
35:15
Walmart of meats? I think that's a brilliant
35:18
quote. I, I love it.
35:23
I, I, I'd like any noun is the something bad of noun family.
35:30
I like that format of a joke, but I think Turkey would be the
35:35
Walmart of meats. Who likes Turkey?
35:37
It only comes out of Thanksgiving and nobody really
35:39
wants it. They're just feeling like they
35:41
need to have it because it's Thanksgiving.
35:43
US tradition. Do you not eat like Turkey
35:45
sandwiches? No Turkey's trash.
35:48
Wait a second, so when you go to like the deli and you get a deli
35:52
sandwich or you go to like the Subway or I don't know what they
35:55
have out where you are, like Jersey Mike's or something,
35:58
which sandwich do you get? Ham.
36:02
Oh my gosh, are you serious? That's unbelievable.
36:07
I love a good ham and cheese sandwich.
36:10
I have ever since I was a little kid.
36:12
I love tuna. So you've chosen the two worst
36:16
choices so far. A good chicken salad.
36:21
Oh my gosh, it's awful. It's absolutely awful choices,
36:30
Mike. Like those are the three worst
36:33
things. Did you say chicken salad?
36:38
Tell me egg salad is next. Is that the next one?
36:41
Egg salad sandwich. Egg salad is not even allowed in
36:44
my house. Oh.
36:45
Good. It's horrific.
36:47
OK, but but chicken salad is wonderful a good.
36:52
Chicken salad, like the place that I work makes a really good
36:55
chicken salad. I don't usually.
36:57
Get Mayo based. I don't like Mayo to me.
37:02
Mayo to me is like milk. It's in the milk family.
37:06
But when it's used as a binding agent for tuna or chicken salad,
37:10
it can be, it can, it can mix and be really good.
37:14
When I go to like the church picnic and there's like egg
37:19
salad or like chicken salad, I, I skip it and I immediately
37:23
think to myself, well, I don't want to get food poisoning
37:26
today, so I'm just going to go to the next thing.
37:30
Yeah, potato salad too. How has pastrami not been
37:35
mentioned Pastrami. I've never had pastrami.
37:41
What is? What is actually happening?
37:45
Did you just say you've never had pastrami?
37:48
You've never had pastrami. Do they not have that in New
37:53
England? They have that in New York.
37:55
What are you talking? About sports car and clubhouse
37:58
reaction GIFs of Greg reacting to my food takes.
38:01
We could make a legit like Instagram reel about my reaction
38:07
as to what you're saying today. You've never had pastrami?
38:10
Adam, if you can figure out how to turn Greg into a GIF on
38:13
several of these reactions, then I think we have a winner.
38:16
Look at this. Yes.
38:18
Pastrami with mustard and lettuce and tomato is like say
38:26
that again. I hate mustard.
38:30
What do you put on your hot dog? Ketchup.
38:32
What do you ate? What?
38:38
What? I don't even know who you are
38:39
anymore. Who am I talking to?
38:41
What are they done? You don't like mustard?
38:44
No, I also I don't eat roast beef I Roast beef is fine.
38:50
My wife loves roast beef. I.
38:52
Never had pastrami and you don't like roast beef?
38:55
No, I didn't. I didn't say I don't like roast
38:57
beef. It's fine.
38:57
I would never choose it though. I mean roast beef and provolone
39:05
on sourdough. Yeah, never had.
39:08
Salad living You've never had sourdough?
39:11
A month ago I had it for the first time ever.
39:13
Yeah, oops. You You had sourdough bread for
39:21
the first time in your life a month ago.
39:24
That's right, yeah. We're from the same country,
39:30
right? We're both from the United
39:33
States of America. Yeah, it says it's sour.
39:36
Why would I want something sour? Why would I want bread that's
39:38
sour? I'm from the San Francisco area,
39:42
you know, and that's where you know, the, the sourdough thing
39:46
is, but it may, is this a regional thing?
39:49
Please tell me down below in the comments if sourdough is a
39:52
regional thing or if it, if I, I don't know what to say at this
39:59
point. I I'm I've learned a lot about
40:03
you today. You are discovering what every
40:05
team I've ever worked on has discovered.
40:08
And then it becomes this thing where like, yeah, I'm, I'm
40:17
weird. I eat weird things.
40:20
No, I don't try on your things. It's.
40:21
Fine, it's fine. I I still adore you.
40:24
I still love you. I just I just am surprised.
40:29
I'm surprised today. So I'm.
40:31
Also surprised that you still like me.
40:34
I still like you. I do.
40:38
I do have a quote though from Mike Petty that seems
40:42
appropriate right now. If it looks like a duck and
40:45
walks like a duck, maybe it's a duck.
40:49
Like 10 quotes are the best the. Kaboomies.
40:53
And then we got, we got in here your buddy, your buddy's got a
40:56
quote in here. That Will Grier right now is
40:59
about four times better of an investment than Kyler Murray.
41:06
Not my buddy. Huh.
41:08
Not my buddy, won't even come on my channel.
41:12
I think he should come on your channel because everybody who's
41:15
come on your channel, you've treated fairly, you've given
41:18
opportunity, you've done a great job with it.
41:22
Thank you. Are you upset right now?
41:26
No, I'm, I want Jeff to come on, let me interview him.
41:30
I will agree to his face. I will tell him to his face that
41:32
I think he's bad for the hobby. But I do think that he does good
41:36
things and I will let him, you know, just like I did with
41:43
anybody else I've had on, just like I'm going to do with the C3
41:45
grading guy. I'm going to tell him I think
41:48
you are scamming people. But he also tell, told me
41:52
privately that he is 100% sure that that car, that Babe Ruth is
41:56
real. So I'm going to let him come on
41:59
and tell me why he thinks it's so real.
42:03
You are a very fair interviewer. You let people speak.
42:08
You let them share their thoughts.
42:10
You don't paint them into corners and then badger them.
42:15
You you give them a platform, but you ask the questions that
42:19
people want to know and that's that's a good interview is you.
42:23
You let people, you let the person speak for themselves, but
42:27
answer the things that everybody wants to hear about.
42:30
And you do a great job with that.
42:32
And it's one of the reasons why, yeah, I think that the teapot
42:36
videos you've done so far have been great when you had have had
42:40
Chris Sewell or Boston Card Hunter and all these guys, they
42:43
do really well because you're really good at that.
42:46
It's one of your strengths. I appreciate that.
42:48
Thank you. Yeah, I mean it too.
42:51
All right. Well, snacks, meats, megabits
43:00
come to. Maine, I'll bring you to a a
43:04
legitimate Italian sandwich shop.
43:07
What? A real Italian sandwich.
43:10
And what am I going to find there?
43:13
Like quick? I mean, we're 43 minutes, but I
43:16
want to you're you've just, you've just thrown out the bait
43:18
and I'm I'm in ham. And cheese, ham and cheese and
43:23
Pickles and some vegetables and tomatoes and things like that.
43:29
I would love that, and I will I I'm sure I would love that, but
43:33
I don't think I would love it as much as a pastrami sandwich from
43:38
New York City with lots of mustard.
43:41
Lots. OK.
43:44
All good. All right, Well, the world's
43:48
problems solved. Check.
43:52
I mean, that's. It we do it every week.
43:55
Every once a week, off we go. We're good at it.