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Wyclef Jean Explains The Uprising in Haiti - How Did The Crisis Start · Earn Your Leisure

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  Speaker 3: We've been watching the news and we have been seeing
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  Speaker 3: that there's an uprising that's happening in Haiti right and
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  Speaker 3: how the news, how the news had painted it was
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  Speaker 3: that it was gangs have taken over the streets of Haiti.
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  Speaker 3: They've exiled the president. The president can't come back to
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  Speaker 3: the country and he's kicked out, and it's just lawlessness
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  Speaker 3: in the streets, and that's that's all.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I saw.
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  Speaker 3: But when I saw you speak on CNN and you
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  Speaker 3: kind of gave a different perspective, you gave a more
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  Speaker 3: like overview that made a lot of sense. So I
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  Speaker 3: think the first thing that I would like is for
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  Speaker 3: you just to explain to the audience from you from
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  Speaker 3: your advantage point, what exactly is currently going on in
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  Speaker 3: Haiti and where are we now today?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, definitely, So I would say the first thing with
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  Speaker 4: the audience is there is a documentary called the Ghost
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  Speaker 4: of seat They So Late, that we did in two
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  Speaker 4: thousand and five. And this documentary it connects the connections
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  Speaker 4: with the gangs and the politicians, like it puts it together.
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  Speaker 4: And I think if y'all haven't gotten a chance, definitely
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  Speaker 4: look at that. It's called the Ghosts of Seaty Sola.
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  Speaker 4: It's a very important documentary because it will help you understand.
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  Speaker 4: So for example, I was watching the Barb Marley One
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  Speaker 4: Love and y'all saw how they shot at bar Marley.
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  Speaker 4: If y'all never got a chance, definitely check this, check that,
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  Speaker 4: move y'all right, because there's a connection here. So what
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  Speaker 4: bar Marley was fighting for was so the parties can
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  Speaker 4: get together versus being divided. They could they could be
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  Speaker 4: more unified. So in this process they shot at bar
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  Speaker 4: Marley and he ended up going to England later coming
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  Speaker 4: back playing in One Love concert. But if y'all see
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  Speaker 4: the magnitude of how Kingston, Jamaica was, fire, bodies on
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  Speaker 4: the floor, all kind of stuff, it reminds me sort
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  Speaker 4: of like what's going on in Haiti right now out
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  Speaker 4: So it just to understand and put Haitian perspective. Why
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  Speaker 4: should we care? So I think like one of the things,
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  Speaker 4: like when I was in Black history in America, one
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  Speaker 4: of the things that I wish that they had mentioned,
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  Speaker 4: you know, because my uncle one of them, being a
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  Speaker 4: scholar at a very early age. You know, one of
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  Speaker 4: the things they told me about was, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: Battle of Savannah seventeen seventy nine, the American Revolution and
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  Speaker 4: how the Haitians played a role within that revolution. So
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  Speaker 4: I was like, there's no way you're going to teach
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  Speaker 4: me about American history or African American history, and you
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  Speaker 4: don't put that in there. So for me, I want
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  Speaker 4: you all to understand that we're way more connected than
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  Speaker 4: we are divided, and saying that where we are today,
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  Speaker 4: we're in a position where y'all saw that they murdered
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  Speaker 4: the Haitian president. Think about three years ago they murdered
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  Speaker 4: this dude. Now, think about the resources that we have
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  Speaker 4: if we wanted to track this down. The reason why
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  Speaker 4: I say this, here's something that you might not know.
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  Speaker 4: One of the biggest embassies US embassy's period, perhaps one
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  Speaker 4: of the biggest in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Is in Haiti. So we have literally one of the
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  Speaker 1: biggest embassy.
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  Speaker 4: So based off of that, I think, you know, there's
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  Speaker 4: not an intelligence that we want to find out that
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  Speaker 4: we can't find out. So in this process to say
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  Speaker 4: they killed the Haitian government, we three years in and
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  Speaker 4: it's still moving very slow. So in this process, hells
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  Speaker 4: a prime minister call Ariel Arip. Now, when this dude
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  Speaker 4: take power, the thing was he was supposed to do
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  Speaker 4: elections in six months. I guess the power was so
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  Speaker 4: sweet for him that he daggled his arms and in
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  Speaker 4: this process, three hundred thousand people displaced over like think
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  Speaker 4: of like over three thousand deaths in like a year,
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  Speaker 4: almost like you and the war inside of a war.
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  Speaker 4: So what happened was the gangs was like, hold up,
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  Speaker 4: this is like really messed up. Right now, what if
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  Speaker 4: we turn our arms towards the people that actually gave.
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  Speaker 1: Us the guns? Right? So this is one narrative, and
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  Speaker 1: this is very important.
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  Speaker 4: And again I'm not preaching violence, but it's important to
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  Speaker 4: understand that these guns didn't just appear out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody had to give these boys these very expensive guns.
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  Speaker 1: So in this.
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  Speaker 4: Process, they said, okay, we're no longer gang members. We're
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  Speaker 4: gonna call ourselves men of arms. Now we're revolutionaries and
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna fight for our country.
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  Speaker 4: So in this process, Ariel leaves the country to go
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  Speaker 4: to Kenya. And again this is something else that I'm
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  Speaker 4: not for to get Kenyan forces to come back to
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  Speaker 4: Haiti to fight. Of course, this would be backed up
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  Speaker 4: by I think a two hundred million dollar budget and
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  Speaker 4: again per year, so I'm like, but hold up, this
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  Speaker 4: makes no sense, because why don't that money goes towards
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  Speaker 4: training the police force in Haiti, instealing that and focus
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  Speaker 4: on putting Haiti's army back in place, being that in
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  Speaker 4: the Caribbean, we're still like the biggest people with eleven
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  Speaker 4: million people. So when he goes to a Kenya, this
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  Speaker 4: is when the revolution rises on different levels, right. And
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  Speaker 4: I use the word revolution as a word in saying
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  Speaker 4: that everybody decided their version of what the revolution was
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  Speaker 4: going to be. So the guys who's no longer call
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  Speaker 4: themselves gangs, they're like, yo, we are men and we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna revolutionize to be freedom. You got different people saying
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna revolutionize to topple the system. Right in this
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  Speaker 4: process total anarchy, right. And you also have now in Jamaica,
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  Speaker 4: which is a small group called Karakong of eight people
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  Speaker 4: that is supposed to decide the transition of the Haitian
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  Speaker 4: government moving forward, and they still cannot decide that.
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  Speaker 1: So where we are today, we're in.
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  Speaker 4: A brank where the planes can't land in Haiti, so
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  Speaker 4: that means AID can't come into Haiti. We're in a
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  Speaker 4: point where now you can't tell the difference between the
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  Speaker 4: cops and the robbers, right, because everything now is infused
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  Speaker 4: into forms of infiltration. So it's total in this anarchy.
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  Speaker 4: What we notice is that the solution for this has
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  Speaker 4: to be in the hands of Haitian people. And the
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  Speaker 4: reason why I say this is because we've seen that
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  Speaker 4: through policy it has failed Haiti. Like these policies that
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  Speaker 4: are put in place have felt Haiti. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: that it was smart for Haiti's army to be dismantled.
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  Speaker 4: I think you could poll parts of institution. I think
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  Speaker 4: that when people here of army, I mean the first
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  Speaker 4: thing that I think about is a tool of discipline
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  Speaker 4: where kids can go get education, learn a tool, get
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  Speaker 4: them out of their rule areas and give them a
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  Speaker 4: different environment.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of that is lost.
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  Speaker 4: So where we at today, we are waiting for the
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  Speaker 4: eight member consul, which is called which is being worked
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  Speaker 4: around by Cara Kar, which is in the Caribbean. So
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  Speaker 4: this is another word for y'all people be like yo, clep,
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  Speaker 4: what's Caracar? I mean, think of Caracom, like all of
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  Speaker 4: the leaders of the Caribbean that get together and they
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  Speaker 4: help shape decisions, you know what I mean. So in
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  Speaker 4: this process, the people on the ground in Haiti do
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  Speaker 4: not agree with this eight member consul that's being set up.
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  Speaker 4: They feel that the console and that idea should come
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  Speaker 4: from the actual Haitian people. So in saying that you
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  Speaker 4: have a constant movement on the ground now where you
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  Speaker 4: know these the bad people is just call them that
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  Speaker 4: because the good people would do that.
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  Speaker 1: The bad forces are still forms of kidnaps, still forms
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  Speaker 1: of rape, still forms of pillaring and the innocent.
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  Speaker 4: So we're at that pattern right now, which is a
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  Speaker 4: very tricky pattern and it's important that we get past it.
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  Speaker 1: That's where we're at.
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  Speaker 5: That was a very informative A few questions when when
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  Speaker 5: you think about the leadership part that was interesting You
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  Speaker 5: said that it was from an outside source, right, coming
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  Speaker 5: from a Jamaican conglomerate, obviously trying to get the Kenyan
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  Speaker 5: military involved. Majority of what you're speaking of, this uprising
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  Speaker 5: that's happened in Port prences a lot of city to
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  Speaker 5: capital city. Right when you're talking about the airport is closed,
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  Speaker 5: we're talking about presidents being free, we're talking.
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  Speaker 1: About gangs united.
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  Speaker 5: Are there other regions inside of the country that we
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  Speaker 5: could that leadership can be formed from and create. I
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  Speaker 5: guess that new form of leadership or it's Porter Prince,
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  Speaker 5: the place where it has.
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  Speaker 1: To come from.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, this is a very great question. So to answer
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  Speaker 4: a question, now I try to become president. I ran
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  Speaker 4: for president when I did, like in twenty twelve, it's
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  Speaker 4: for this.
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  Speaker 1: Exact reason you just said.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I remember, like when Kingston was totally
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  Speaker 4: messed up, and the idea was like, you know, let's
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  Speaker 4: focus on my Tego Bay, all your rios, different parts
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  Speaker 4: of the island.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start to come back to Jamaica campaign.
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  Speaker 4: You know, let's figure out a duty free zone, let's
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  Speaker 4: figure out tax incentives to start to make people focus
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  Speaker 4: on the other side of the island.
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  Speaker 1: So to your point, I always say that Haiti's.
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  Speaker 4: Problem is a pr problem because people look at Porter
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  Speaker 4: prints as in the total country. But what we're going
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  Speaker 4: through right now, in order for the northern part, in
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  Speaker 4: different part places like give you some cool names, Bookop.
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  Speaker 4: There's another place called Jacquel that's where the surfers be going,
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  Speaker 4: and they don't tell too many people, so like you know,
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  Speaker 4: mad people don't show up.
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  Speaker 1: There's another place called Jeremy, very green. So in order
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  Speaker 1: for these.
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  Speaker 4: Places to still develop, right, you still have a capital
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  Speaker 4: where the majority of the businesses.
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  Speaker 1: So people come to the capital to make business.
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  Speaker 4: So in order to move forward, we would have to
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  Speaker 4: start to create bigger industries outside of the capital. Right,
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  Speaker 4: we start to focus on the north. Right, one of
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  Speaker 4: Haiti's greatest assets is the human capital and the soil.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Haiti was known for being like the lead export of
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  Speaker 4: sugar at one time. Again, I always say, if it
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  Speaker 4: ain't broken, don't fix it. Right, this soil is one
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  Speaker 4: of the biggest assets that Haiti possessed. So to your point,
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  Speaker 4: it would have to start. The reshape of the thinking
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  Speaker 4: has to start with the Haitian constitution itself. Right, So
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  Speaker 4: the constitution, the Haitian constitution, I feel needs to be amended,
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  Speaker 4: amended so what you've just said can become a reality.
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  Speaker 1: And which parts of the constitutions should be amended.
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  Speaker 4: One of the parts is I say that the future
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  Speaker 4: of Haiti is in the diaspora, not in Haiti. The
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  Speaker 4: future of Haiti is here in the Haitians that live
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  Speaker 4: up here. I say that is because half of when
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  Speaker 4: you look at the treasure and Haiti, the amount of
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  Speaker 4: money that stiff. I'm not sure if y'all know, but
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  Speaker 4: the diaspora we contribute billions of dollars a year to
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  Speaker 4: Haiti just from the transfers along. So we should have
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  Speaker 4: a say on who the president is, who the senator is,
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  Speaker 4: who the deputy is. We from here should have a
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  Speaker 4: saying of vote because we are Haiti's economical force. Because
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  Speaker 4: now if we could start to have a saying a vote,
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  Speaker 4: we can start to shape other parts of Haiti. As
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  Speaker 4: in the diaspora right. Focus on the anti corruption law.
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  Speaker 4: Make it easy for people here that want to go
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  Speaker 4: back to their island and start export, that want to
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  Speaker 4: invest in the natural resources in the country from the
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  Speaker 4: mining on down. Give them an opportunity. So I think
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  Speaker 4: that in order to put the diaspora in these positions
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  Speaker 4: of power, we're going to have to focus on one
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  Speaker 4: of the number one things is like amending the constitution
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  Speaker 4: so that it can give us more rights.
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