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What's happening between men and women and how do we make it worse? | Rantzerker 213 · Honey Badger Radio

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Coming to you live from deep within an ice. Wait, no, it's
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not icy. It's sort of muddy and wet and slightly warm, radioactive wasteland.
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We are the survivors of the Altright Keck Apocalypse, the few, the
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brave, the bitchy, once more wading into battle against the froggy lobster zombie,
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no longer having children, hordes with rant Zurker number something two thirteen.
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If I'm maybe yeah, two thirteen. Men and women are not getting together?
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How can we make it worse? I am your host? Oh no,
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sorry, what's happening between men and women? And how do we make
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it worse? Because that's the goal, isn't it. It's to not address
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the problem and continue to make everything get worse. I am your host,
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Alison, and with me is the indomitable Brian and the extremely irate Karen.
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Because I've forced her into this, she just shake your head. Yeah,
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when I have the flu, I have the flu, and I have to
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move my son back into the house. And over the next two days did
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he move out? And that's when Allison, Yeah, he moved out in
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February of last year. He got a nice apartment and he was doing pretty
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well and everything, but then inflation, of course. So now he's moving
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back in Oh, and he got turned down for a promotion because of certain
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certain multicultural artifacts that certain no, no, certain cultural artifacts that certain immigrants
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bring with them, like rampant nepotism and graft. So, yeah, are
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you even allowed to say that anymore? Nepotism isn't bad depending on who's doing
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I am, I am no, no, no, no, okay.
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So he got a job at nineteen, okay, at Walmart as an associate
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and he was recommended for promotion to management at nineteen and he got that promotion,
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he had to wait until he was twenty because the open posion was in
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the department his sister was working, so he would have to actually be in
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charge of his sister. And that was a conflict of interest, it was,
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and so he couldn't have that position. But the store was moving from
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one location to another, and it was expanding its hours to twenty four hours
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versus twenty four hours of like people being on shift versus just the two shifts,
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right, so three shifts rather than two. And Rachel was like,
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I'll take graveyards. And so once they moved, Rachel took graveyards and they
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promoted Sam to department manager of his particular shift, which was shift to which
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is two to ten thirty pm, right, And then they invited him to
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apply for general manager or general associate general manager or assistant general manager, and
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he did. And then the new management team that took over, who were
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of a particular ethnicity, chose one of their own ethnicity, and everything kind
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of fell apart, and now he's he he demanded a demotion. He didn't
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have to take a pay cut, but he was just like, I'm not
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putting with this right, Like it wasn't even just being denied the promotion to
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assistant general manager, but but the managers were poaching members of his team to
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work other shifts to make those other shifts look right, like have good numbers.
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And I went through this at Denny's with the same kind of way of
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doing things right, you know, in Edmonton, Yeah, the morning shift
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always looks like it's got the best numbers out there, right, because the
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morning shift doesn't do any prep work in the side work and the others they
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just do nothing but serve customers and leave all of the mess for the next
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shift to clear up, right, so there their labor cost numbers look great,
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and yeah no, and it's just like and those are the people that
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management favors, and they give them all these perks right where you don't have
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to fill up the syrup jars and you don't have to, you know,
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fill up the salad bar, and you don't have to do any of this
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before we let you go, and and and it's just like, yeah no.
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So now he's just like he's fed up. He didn't have to take
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a pay cut though, that's the one thing, no pay cut, still
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making the same pay as he was as a department manager. But but yeah,
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he's he can't make it. He can't make it. He's living in
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a really good apartment in a really good well not in a really good building,
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in a really shitty building, but a great apartment. The price was
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super good, and he walks to and from work, and he still can't
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make it. He still can't make it. He cooked, he cooks for
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himself and and all of that, he still can't. He still can't make
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any he can't put any savings away and he still can't, you know.
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So he's just like, I'm going to look for an apprent apprenticeship and yeah,
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it's a good plan and moved back home. Yeah. So speaking of
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making it in our age, like our post our post marriage age. Yeah,
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Like I totally get what he is. Like, it's it's responsibility without
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without authority what you're talking about, or at least something. Yeah, and
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he's twenty one. He's twenty one now, right, he's twenty one now,
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and he's like every time I talk to somebody, and he says he
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even has this with people at work, like customers at right there, they're
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like, how many girlfriends you got? You know, like these old guys,
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old Greek guys or whatever, Right, how many girlfriends do you have?
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You know, you must have a lot of girlfriends because he's like six
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foot five, he's being in the face, he has nice hair, he's
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got a good body. He's a chad and he's like none and they're like
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yeah no, and they're like what what? Well, like, what are
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you talking about? How do you have? No? And the Jamaican ladies
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at the local store they're like, what your son, your son who's like
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this tall, has no girlfriends? What's going on? Yeah, well I
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guess that's what we'll be talking. He's like they say, the ladies,
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They say, the ladies should be following at my feet and yeah, no,
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all I got is Tyler trash Ray Linda. Yeah, well you know
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why because they expect him to look like like a you know, mid twenties
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guy, nice body, nice face, and have the income of some of
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a man in his fifties. Let's be honest. Ye, No, that's
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that's what I keep saying. That's what I keep saying. It's the six
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six six sixty six solid six woman demands demands six feet six inches, six
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figures and the six pack, and he's got everything but the six figures.
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Well, well, I don't know personally asom so well, I'm just he
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he manscapes. So okay, let's let's move it to less awkward and uncomfortable
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territory. They say, like, essentially, when they're asking for that,
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they're asking for a man who is literally cherry picked from the best parts of
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his own life, if that makes sense, Like you cherry pick the body
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from the twenty they at his youngest, most fit, and most energetic,
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and most most physically capable, but also from his forties, when he's most
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financially secure. Yeah, and you know as oriented, and it's from his
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sixties when he's his the most available. Yeah, yeah, you know,
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And it's like, what the heck do you want? It's possible. You
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want a guy, you want to take a guy, and you want to
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smooch every the best single years, the best achievements in his life into right
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now for you. And it's like, that's not going to happen, all
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of them, all of them. Yeah. No, And then and then
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they're like and then they're like, why why do I have I have a
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waiste to hip ratio in order to attract men? Why do I like?
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Why do men get like I'm only thirty two? Like why are men less
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interested? That's not fair? Right? And it's like, oh so cute,
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like are you? Oh okay, we should get into the I'm sorry,
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I'm sorry, we should get into the topic because interest. We we
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have a limited number of hours, yeah we do. And Karen's it's a
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little bit yanky, so this should be interesting, Okay. So the way
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that we're gonna do it, well, it's gonna record good on her end.
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Oh yeah, it's gonna be fine. Yeah, it's gonna be nice.
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It's gonna be an interesting, It's an interesting experiment because we're using Riverside
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to record locally, so we'll see what happens. But all right, so
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what we're gonna do is we're gonna look at various clips related to the current
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circumstances as they are and how people are responding to them. The situation between
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men and women, the fact that they're not paara bonding, the fact that
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we live in a breeding colony, and when we stop breeding, the colony
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collapses, so we're in for some difficult times. On my last show,
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I talked about how kids born now, like a child born now, is
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going to experience their old age in what may end up being the worst era
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of human history if we don't fix this, Like those babies you see you
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go to the olon anal lord when they are old, When they're in their
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old age, they are going to likely be dealing with levels of poverty,
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destruction, environmental degradation, and catastrophe that would just just beggars the mind.
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And nobody seems to care. I mean, I dare you, guys,
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everybody who doesn't care about this, including feminists. You don't have to look
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at the boy babies. We know you don't care. Go look at the
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girl. Look go look at the little baby girl just born, and realize,
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if we don't fix this problem, if we don't have some kind of
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compromise, and that means women have to compromise too, which will be astounding.
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But regardless, if we do not compromise on those issues, those baby
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girls are going to experience worse and worse and worse conditions right up into when
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they're the most vulnerable, which is in their old age, okay, and
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then they are going to be experiencing the implosion of the society that we have
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right now if we do not fix this, because we are a breeding colony.
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If we do not breed, the colony collapses. All right, So
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this is what we're gonna look at. We're gonna first off, I guess
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you got Lauren Southern queued up right? Well, I do, So I
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got this. I got a couple of different things. We get one video
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from women on the right, Lauren Southern, We got one video from a
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woman on the left. We have Judith Butler, and then we have a
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video from men. God, So so this should be good. I'm gonna
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put it on the screen. We'll start with Lauren because we did we did
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cover some of this. Lindsey saw this video and she was like, you
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gotta you gotta talk about this and sent me but we didn't get to the
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point that I thought she thought was the most relevant. Gave up. I
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just lost my will to live watching. Yeah. Yeah, so so we
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didn't get to the part. So anyway, what the what this video is
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about is I don't know why. It's like struggling to let me hold on
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a second. Okay, there we go. So no, no, it's
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just my YouTube. It's I don't know if it's but brave but anyway,
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So Laurence Southern is trying to make the case that there there is growing misogyny
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on the right amongst men, and that you know, like the the there
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has been this meme because it can't be anything but a meme. It can't
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be anything but that which is repealed the nineteenth right on Twitter and people talking
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about it, and of course some women like Lauren Chen and Rachel Wilson were
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like, yeah, bring it on, let's see, like, you know,
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this is good, but they're just talking about it, and then women
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like Sidney Watson and Lauren Southern have lost their minds. So Laurence Southern is
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connecting this growing misogyny on the right with I guess making money because of I
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asked migration. She's making a connection. And what she starts off by saying
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is, look, I was fighting feminism back in twenty fifteen, and she
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basically shows a bunch of feminist clips and then she for it was cool.
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Yeah, yeah, and and then like the clips of men today, and
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she's sort of like trying to draw connections. So we're gonna watch this clip,
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don't respond until we get to the men clips, because that's it was
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just then when Alison was like, I can't do this, And of course
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we never got to actually do that, and I think that was actually the
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thing that Lindsey really wanted us to see. So let's each quit like I
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did. Karen. Yeah, So let's play thirty seconds of Lauren Southern setting
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up this thing where she's like, I was fighting feminism before any of you
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knubes got here. Feminists back in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, that shit
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gone, They were doing stuff like this. How does it feel to be
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same sex as Donald? Do you ever get tired of trying to be manly
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all the time? I love the man's splining. I'm enjoying it, loving
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what the man's splaining that's going on there. I was thinking it was just
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me that had a problem, but turns out it's the air conditioning of sexist
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I know so many women in our office have the exact same problem. Man
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spreading is when a man spreads his physical body to take up as much space
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as humanly possible. I was on the forefront of criticizing that absurdity, and
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it was absurdity but reality you were, uh, okay, I want no,
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no, it's okay, let's let Lauren s Ethern finished this. There
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was a shot of her at the slut Walk. This was kind of like
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the first. I think that was kind of one of the first. Yeah,
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go ahead, else, go ahead, Karen okay, at the forefront
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of challenging that, we were at the forefront of challenge. She got into
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it because she saw it was something that was you know, interesting or or
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mukeetable or you know, lucrative or whatever. I don't know, right,
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but I literally slept on my couch. I know when I said that,
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I said that when we talked, Yes, she slept on your couch,
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that's right, Yes, I know, all right, so we not at
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the forefront. She was, No, she was three years late to the
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forefront. Yep. Yeah, well, I mean and we were at the
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forefront either like that would be a voice from it and before because we like
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there's been a large movement ye who's been and before hid e Belfort backs and
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the Vienna Freaking's Rights Association and all of it. I mean, how you
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can even put in Florence Nightingale calling out the lack of compassion of her sisters.
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You know, like there there's been plenty of bushmen against this narrative that
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men oppressed women, that men grab up all the goodies of society, that
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men get all of the the consideration. You know, there's been pushback against
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that narrative for a very long time. She came in at that point.
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You know, I'm not going to say I was doing this since like the
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early two thousands, so you know there's you're not at the foot That was
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just the next one iteration like she was Therefore what the Warren Ferrell stuff all
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of the stuff. Yeah, I know, I know, like I I
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when I always because I started doing this in about two thousand and nine twenty
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and the shoulders of Johnny always said that. I've always said I was building
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on the work of people who came before me. Right, She's like,
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I was at the forefront. Okay, yeah, no, actually you weren't.
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You weren't you were on the forefront of the conservative movement. Maybe there,
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you know, if there was, If there is an anti feminist,
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it is because they know everybody agrees that that men oppressed women because men are
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horrible and they need to be like curtailed in order to not oppress women,
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right, And they have been doing that for millennia, right, And it's
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like, yeah, no, it's it's basically, it's the description is all
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the same, right, basically. And and then you know there's some niggling
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over statistics and how you interpret them in like prescriptions to fix the problem,
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and the problem is always men. Mm hmm, all, I'm gonna play
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some more in response to this, do you have to go and become barbarians?
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Listen, Left imported all of this. I don't want to hear a
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peep about peep from them about the sexism of young British boys. They did
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this, and now you've got all of these new influencers on the right that
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say I've changed. I've become some sort of feminazi now that I shouldn't be
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critiquing any of this, that I shouldn't even be online at all, commenting
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on politics whatsoever. Let me tell you right now, I have not changed
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on this subject one bit, not one bit. But what has changed is
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there has been an influx of new demographics within tolerant ideologies who right wing influencers
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are trying to appeal to. I'm just pausing for the banana there. She
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is trying to connect thet the sort of red pill manisphere to the migration.
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I don't see it, but it's women that voted for it. I will
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defer to. I will defer to Scott Adams who said that one of the
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reasons, this is why he believed that so many women voted for open borders
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was because they wanted to have more access to more genetic variety and more available
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men, and that they did that, you know, just out of self
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interest. I'm not I can't prove it, obviously, but I do think
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that there is a rationality behind it that does make some sense. But we're
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still blaming men at the end of the day. So what would we say
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if men voted to import a whole bunch of women, a slender women eighteen
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to thirty six. What would we say. We would say, I think
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there's some self interest there and I don't think there's any difference when you're looking
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at women. Well, it's funny because when passport bros get a lot of
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skepticism and they're not trying to destroy the country with their decisions. They're just
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going to another country. So even when men behave badly, or if we
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call it bad because they want some genetic variety, they don't destroy a country
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to do it. They just go to another country, you know what I
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mean? So, like, can we come the passport bros? And they
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they export themselves and the women who voted for open borders they import the men.
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And there's like there is actually a precedent to this because a lot of
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the women in the aid organizations were caught having sex with let's face that,
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the boys, the very young boys and young men that were being brought over.
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So there is a predatory sexual element to this. Now, of course,
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what are we doing. We're blaming red pill bros. Apparently for immigrants
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it is a strange scapegoat. But let's play let's put it, and I
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think that it's based on some strange assumptions about also it's based on some strange
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assumptions about foreign men as well. But let's play this because there's just as
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much money in mass migration to be made from the left as there is in
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the right, and they want to make sure that money's making its way around
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to everyone, including themselves. So to make the clear, millions more people
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with different ideologies come into our countries, and that becomes millions more people to
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make money off of, on super chats, on events, everything. Who
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cares about morals? Who cares what right wing actually thought ten fifteen years ago.
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There is money to be made to have sex with any guy if they
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want, so, you're supposed to have sex with him whenever he said,
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we mean simply just don't care care too much about the beach. It's a
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perfect example that you can be dominant the girl and make it to like let
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woman. If you're a Dutch cheat on your mom, how it feels a
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lot of them you got your money on that. I think if you're in
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a serious leadship with a girl, she should not have an Instagram. That's
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cheating. Men don't really need a woman an't divorce, and that's not a
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real even though it might be like physically you got to endure. I recently
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decided that women shouldn't about No. I might like family more than you so
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much. I have five. I'm doing this for money. It's all about
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money to me. That's funny. I like family boil than you I have.
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Now, I just got to say that, you know, say what
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you want about this, but I think some of those are taken out of
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context and they're very disingenuous. And this is the all I will say about
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it. Like Steven Crowder saying that don't don't give me the He's not a
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red pill guy. Okay, he he got he's going through a messy divorce.
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He did everything right in quotes, you know, saved himself and all
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of that, and he is basically experiencing like the system. And I think
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in that particular clip he wasn't referring to essentially like the same suggested message that
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say, I don't know the fresh and fit clips sort of you know,
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imply, which is more like, hey, you know, if you should
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use women for your sexual pleasure and then move on, which again, men
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are at like they can do that. I mean, women do it,
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like I don't see why that's a problem, but there is a much more
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sinister implication. And when you put it in contrast the thing I got,
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I gotta compare to. First of all, she misrepresents Stephen Crowder and some
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of the other people likely are also misrepresented, because if that's wrong, then
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I have to wonder about the rest of it as well. But also she
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compares twenty fifteen you know, activist college age feminists complaining about air conditioning,
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man spreading and man's plaining to this this whatever this is that she's suggesting,
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is far more sinister, and that somehow it's only about money. And she
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doesn't even offer like anything else. She doesn't say, you know, if
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you with the men's issues, we could there are people that this is just
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like what happened with Shoe. This is why I got upset with Shoe,
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because she just wanted to show like, oh, look at look at all
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the mean things that you know, the the kamis that are on my side
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are saying about men. And then oh, here's Andrew Taate and that and
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that's like it like he's like the only other person he did no she did
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yes later, but I'm saying at first, I was like, why didn't
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because you knew who we are, Like Lauren Souther knows Karen she supped on
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her couch, you know, Like, but this doesn't come up. So
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it's like I talked to Sidney Watson. I've had her on the show,
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like way back when she was starting out, you know, want to know
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why, because well, yeah, go ahead, what's up bringing up men's
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issues, bringing up the fact like she talks about, Oh, all these
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feminists they were talking about what was it man explaining and sexist air conditioning?
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Well, yes, and we sometimes talked about that too. But for us,
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the big problem that we had with feminists is that they're demonizing boys and
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young men. They're actively discriminating against them in schools, which you can find
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the statistics feminist teachers mark boys down. They are not like they're discriminating against
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men's issues when it comes to domestic violence and rape, like to Justin Tratchia
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how many times the last decade and his trial and trying to bring services to
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men to Canada, you know, and we also talk about how the narrative
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that men oppressed women demonizes men and strips them of any kind of recognition that
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their problems matter, because it blames those problems on them. These are the
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things we were talking about. If she acknowledges that. If she acknowledges us,
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her point is weakened because everything that we talk about is profound. Right,
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we're talking about a society that does not care about its men and actively
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demonizes them. Who cares? Who cares? If these guys go out there
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and say things like, well, you don't have to care a but women
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don't care about us. We are not gonna care about them. Who cares
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if they say rude things? When we live in a society that doesn't care
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about men when they're raped? Can you think about like, you can have
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some priorities here. And if she actually recognized us, if she actually said,
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oh hey, oh, these people who talk about men's issues, they
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don't spend twenty four to seven trying to insult women or make them out to
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be stupid like they do in the whatever podcast. You know you could take
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a look, then she would have to acknowledge the scope, like of what
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she's complaining about versus what we're complaining about. People are rude on the internet,
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guess what's the feminists in twenty sixteen, we're complaining about Lauren people being
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rude to women on the internet. Now you are complaining about people being rude
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to women on the internet and you want things shut down, presumably unless you're
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just complaining, unless this is a call for censorship, like Anita Sarkisian like,
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what is this? You're doing what you said you fought in twenty sixteen,
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and no, the fact that these men are being rude on the internet
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is in no way, It's not even in the ballpark. When I have
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to go talk to Justin Trotier, who has worked for ten years to bring
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services to men dealing with things that would turn your hair white, services to
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men who get nothing, and he has to fight against feminist bureaucrats to have
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that services recognized as valid and worthy of some kind of public assistance, public
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funding. I have to and you know I'm not the one doing that fight,
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but I'm the one watching it. And then I have to watch people
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talk about, oh, men are rude to women on their Who gives a
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fuck is do you want to censor it? Well, if you don't want
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to censor it, you're just whining. Let's deal with the lack of services
28:32
for men. Let's deal with the fact that boys are being demonized. You
28:36
talk about men being rude to women on the interview. What is it when
28:40
a six year old boy has to listen to an adult woman talk about how
28:44
he's to blame, or a twelve year old boy has to listen to a
28:48
group of people coming into his school and saying, well, take responsibility for
28:52
violence against women. Billy, Oh, I'm sorry. Were you beaten by
28:56
your mother last week? We'll taking a responsibility for violence against women. We
29:00
don't care, Like, this is the shit that we've had to deal with.
29:03
And if she recognized us, she'd have to recognize that, and I
29:07
think that puts her complaints into perspective. We're dealing with the society wide,
29:12
yeah, movement institutional disregard of men's feelings, their personhood, their physical being,
29:22
their rights, and their children's rights to them. You are dealing with
29:26
rude red pill bros on the internet, which, like I said, that's
29:32
what the feminists didn't like in twenty sixteen when you were against them. Now
29:34
you're for them. Now you're for their initiatives. Yeah, that sounds sort
29:38
of like you changed, but maybe you didn't. I don't know. Let's
29:45
see, I'll let Karen have her say, Karen, do you want to
29:52
say anything? Well, when Lauren was on in the morning, dressed for
30:03
the slut walk, get them up, make them look silly, and I
30:14
was just like, that's not my thing over there, and I hung out
30:21
and while she was doing her thing for the cameras, but I brought up,
30:29
you know, things like divorce law in Sharika, and you know the
30:38
difference in execution and incarceration rates between men and women in Islamic countries or radically
30:49
Islamic countries and things. And she was just and I explained it, right,
30:57
It's like, okay, so you put extra limitations on women, but
31:02
they get extra protections. And and she was powdering her face. I remember,
31:08
she was like she had her she had her h and was you know,
31:18
doing this and and she was like uh huh uh huh. And so
31:26
like she's not she's not into uh, she doesn't. She's on the neocon
31:36
right as far as I'm concerned. Right, look at them, look at
31:40
those Muslim men over there, and how badly they treat their women, and
31:45
and how ridiculous feminists are and the progressives are and how how the the the
31:52
wage gap or the pay gap or whatever is a myth and things like that,
31:56
we're really easy surface questions and accusations. Right, Yeah, our men,
32:05
our men don't harm when by with pay in inequality. Right. But
32:09
those men over there, right, they're they're really bad and they don't treat
32:15
their women. And so yeah, it's uh, well, I always felt
32:22
this like very shallow in her analysis. It was a very neo conservative analysis,
32:29
not not a Tucker Carlson conservative analysis, not even a Donald Trump conservative
32:34
analysis, right, but but a yeah, but like a Mitt Romney style
32:42
conservative analysis, and yet very popular. Yeah, okay, so that so
32:52
that, Yeah, I mean there's she's just gonna there's another minute, so
32:55
I'll just play the rest of it. Listen, this will be my last
33:00
point on this subject. I get it, the left imported the entire planet.
33:05
They fucked everything up, But that doesn't mean the right has to f
33:08
everything up too. That doesn't mean they have to become lowest common denominator intelligence
33:15
of our population at the moment. And here's what you can do, if
33:17
you're watching this right now, go outside, treat people with respect and good
33:23
values. You see an old lady crossing the street that needs help, Go
33:27
and help her. You see a girl at eighteen trying to join only fans.
33:31
Don't give her a podcast mic and start mocking her. Invite her to
33:36
your church barbecue, cultivate family speak, truth, value, education, act
33:44
in general, decent and good ways, and stop watching this track. Yeah,
33:53
well that'd be nice, but uh should yeah? Go ahead? Help
33:59
women, help women basically women, and promote society, right? Yeah?
34:04
No? And where what what we're supposed to be doing these things? Essentially,
34:12
this is the thing that I do over more things. Yeah, yeah,
34:19
I was gonna say, I don't know if you guys are dropping,
34:21
but what what I what I think is going on here? I think Lauren
34:25
is like Sidney Watson some of these other right wing women. They're afraid.
34:32
They're afraid because men are like they're their disdain and frustration is impossible to ignore
34:42
now, and what they want is for them to just go back to I
34:47
think what this is what I'm getting from them? Okay, They're like,
34:52
can we just have nineties feminism? And men are like none, no more,
34:58
We're done drizzle drizz right, and they're like, no please, And
35:01
what they're afraid of. This is the thing they're afraid of. Somebody made
35:05
a tweet, and I think this is really perfect for conservative women. They
35:12
say, right wing women. I'm just paraphrasing. Right wing women have to
35:17
take the ring of female power and cast it into the fires of Mount Doom.
35:23
And they just won't do it, like they can't let go right because
35:27
they know and this is the thing. They know what power women have,
35:31
and what they're afraid of is that if they put all of their faith in
35:36
men, men will oppress them. And I've seen this from women all over
35:39
the so called political spectrum because and just what I've always said is that at
35:45
the end of the day, almost everyone on earth, no matter what part
35:50
of the world, is a little feminist, almost everyone, like very few
35:54
people, and they're all like, well, we have to be somewhat because
35:58
if we're not, the men are gonna oppress us, they're gonna turn us
36:00
into channel. We have to be right. And so this is what she's
36:06
she's afraid, That's what I think is happening. She's afraid. Now.
36:08
The one the women who are temp typically not afraid, tend to be married
36:13
in stable families. Those women are okay but the ones that, like Lauren
36:16
went through a bad breakup or whatever, Uh, they're afraid. That's what
36:22
I think, Well, well, I think I think essentially yeah, you
36:37
no, no, most women, it's just a matter of like the degree
36:50
to which you believe that men arbitrarily harm women when left to their own devices.
36:58
Right. And it's like I look at it and I think, Okay,
37:02
so Lauren Southern, Okay, she's been through a breakup. Well,
37:06
she has a kid right by that relationship? Yeah, yeah, she does
37:16
the nursing a Uh, I guess a traditional marital relationship right where it's like
37:30
you're married long term at least until the kids are old enough to fend for
37:35
themselves, right, and you you you hold that and you make it work
37:40
because you made a vow and all of those things. Right, that's what
37:45
she's advocating as a conservative, right ridge for life, or at least for
37:53
as long as it takes for your kids to grow up. Right. And
37:59
she's she's failed. She's failed at that. Like as good looking as she
38:04
is, as as gorgeous as she is, she's failed at that. And
38:08
I think that's what that's the bee in her bonnet that's making her not be
38:15
able to ignore these red hill men who are talking about body counts and talking
38:22
about you know, just like it goes down to her right to resources,
38:30
they're threatening her right to resources. You know. It's funny because Stephen Crowder
38:36
also never considered was we're having like a lot of at least well it's it's
38:43
a yeah, Karen's breaking up a lot for me too, but it's not.
38:45
It's not on my end, it's not on your end. It's just
38:49
on hers. I think Karen's using the WiFi. So but what I was
38:53
gonna say is go ahead, go ahead. Yeah. Stephen Crowder is another
38:57
example. He's actually the opposite example. So Lauren Southern try to do everything
39:01
right. Although I think she may have made a mistake because she got involved
39:06
with a long distance relationship and that was uh, and then she got herself
39:09
banned from like Australia and the UK and stuff and made it impossible to like
39:15
be with this guy. But and I mean that she could just she maybe
39:19
she took responsibility for that and say, yeah, I did do that to
39:22
myself, you know, like at the end of the day, it comes
39:23
down to me. But Stephen Crowder also did everything right. He saved himself
39:27
for marriage. He did all of the things correctly, and he doesn't have
39:30
that resentment, you know. I mean he's like he's he's become more aware
39:37
of women's you know power. He's also become aware of what you know,
39:43
the courts are like. And Lauren Southern tried to dismiss that too. I
39:46
remember her like going after Crowder, you know, because when Crowder's ex wife
39:51
came out with that, you know, all this supposed evidence and it's all
39:53
looking very sketchy, she immediately sided with the woman, and I think that's
39:59
because of her own experience. She was even saying that, you know,
40:01
like all the idea that men like you know, get you know, screwed
40:07
over a divorce is exaggerated and it's just comes down to who has more money
40:12
and all this. But Crowder doesn't have that resentment. I've been you know,
40:15
I still watch him on Rumble, and you know, I mean he's
40:19
he's been red pilled. He's probably got some frustrations, but he does He's
40:22
not acting like this, He's not catastrophizing, you know, the situation.
40:28
And yet they both kind of like followed the same path. But I don't
40:32
know Lawrence got a different I mean, she's like, it's like what Alison
40:36
said, Lauren's a victim of the Lauren's a victim of traditionalism, and Steven
40:40
Crowder is just like apparently not making himself a victim of traditionalism, right,
40:46
I mean, like, ultimately it well comes down to this comes down to
40:52
is a woman willing to let go of victimhood and identifying herself with victimhood?
40:58
And then there's a corresponding question for men too, are they willing to let
41:01
go of the identity of being the alpha and omega of all human endeavor like
41:07
that their actions are the only ones that matter morally essentially. So, I
41:12
mean it's this toxic dynamic between men and women. They both have things they
41:16
have to let go of, and you know, it's probably easier for Crowder
41:22
not to say, well, I'm a victim of the of traditionalism. As
41:25
a man, I was expected to be a provider. It was overwhelming and
41:30
you destroyed my relationship. Whatever. He's not making that argument. She seems
41:35
to be maybe not making that argument personally. I don't know, I haven't
41:37
really been following that tsaga very closely, but she seems to be making that
41:40
argument in a greater sense that traditionalism is bad for women. I mean,
41:47
you can say what you like about Muslims, they are a very traditionalist,
41:51
and of course if you believe the kind of narrative fear narrative around them,
41:58
then you think that they oppress, and we have argued against that. You
42:02
know, you cannot be for a theocratic society. Although I will point out
42:08
that when Islam was in its heyday, the women in Islam were the most
42:14
literate on the planet except maybe maybe the Chinese, I don't know, but
42:17
they were the most literate. They had the most liberty and the most safety
42:21
of all the women on the planet at that time. So just just consider
42:25
that that maybe maybe what we're looking at is is looking at ourselves through a
42:30
mirror darkly. But anyway, but my overall point is she does seem to
42:36
be willing to say or not. Actually she did say that traditionalism didn't work
42:40
for her, so she was a victim of traditionalist expectations. And I was
42:45
looking at this and I was like, no, expectations are what you live
42:49
up to, You don't you don't necessarily you don't necessarily do these things because
42:54
it's gonna lead to the very the very like the absolute utopian life, ugenical,
43:02
the pinnacle. You do it because you're a good person who is moral
43:07
and has integrity. Okay, sometimes that really asks a lot of you,
43:12
a lot, but you do it because you're a good person and you have
43:15
more out you have integrity. Right. And so it's like her framework of
43:20
traditional values was, well, this is these are the tools, and I'm
43:22
going to use to construct my perfect life. Right. Didn't turn out like
43:27
that for her because she didn't really additional values or things you live up to,
43:31
not something that shapes your life in the way that you think is heal.
43:37
Yeah, okay, so yeah, no, I mean like my parents.
43:43
Yeah, well you look at my parents right, like, and look
43:45
at the complaint that millennials and gen z ers have Generation X, Right,
43:54
Oh you had it so easy, Oh you had it so easy. And
43:58
it's like, no, no, we didn't, right, Like, I
44:02
like what I the amount of unpaid what they put in to building the wealth
44:14
that they had when my dad died in twenty twenty one, right, astounding,
44:22
right, And I was I learned that at my mother's knee, learned
44:28
how to do that work, and at my father's knee as well. And
44:32
I learned how to do that, and I put that in when I formed
44:37
a family, when when I you know, got married and had my kids,
44:42
I put in all of that kind of work and the idea that you
44:45
can just you can just sit back and you know your husband, you marry
44:53
a man who already earned six figures and back then in the in the nineteen
45:00
early nineteen nineties, that have been a whole lot and you know, and
45:07
the city around and not do anything, not put any in any effort,
45:14
and you can just spend, spend, spend. You can like go shopping
45:17
at a big box store, bed bath and beyond, right, you know,
45:22
like it never occurred to me, Like and I know women who do
45:25
this. I know women who do this seasonal throw pillows and throw blankets.
45:35
So they have for spring, summer, winter, and fall. They have
45:39
different throw pillows and throw blankets that they put on their living room furniture.
45:45
Right, and you know, they redo their to bottom you know, wall
45:52
tiles, floor tiles, appliances, everything every five years. Right, they
45:58
do that in order to you know, make and it's like and they go
46:02
on two vacations a year that require flights and all of this stuff, and
46:07
it's just like it's just consume, consume, consume, consume. Right.
46:13
Meanwhile, in order to not have to work right outside the house when my
46:19
first two were small, and I have to go back and cook fricking pizza
46:24
or fish and chips for like other people, right, you know what I
46:29
did. I rescued furniture for the jump and reupholstered it andshed it. Like,
46:37
that's what I did. That's what I because I couldn't afford new furniture.
46:44
I couldn't afford new anything, right, So like, and that's the
46:50
way my parents lived. And they sure they died with three quarters of a
46:53
million dollars, right, or my dad died with three quarters. There's a
47:00
million dollars just sitting around earning passive income. Right. They didn't get there
47:07
without going through that, without doing that. And you have these people who
47:13
are like, oh, I, gret, I have an engineering degree.
47:16
I deserve a twenty five hundred square foot house, right that's newly built or
47:24
recently built and has all of the modern amenities, and anything less is not
47:30
okay. First house was six thousand and five sixty sixty five, nine hundred
47:42
dollars. That's what we paid for it sixty five nine, and it was
47:51
eleven hundred square feet eleven hundred square feet, and you know, like,
47:57
so I'm looking at the extra I'm looking get the expectations right of these people.
48:02
Oh yeah, no, but there were plenty of houses about that size,
48:07
right, that didn't need work, that were for a lot more money,
48:12
way more than we could afford. Right, This house needed work,
48:15
how had problems. So that's the one we bought because that's what we could
48:22
afford. Right. And even this house now that we have, right,
48:29
it's uh, it's an it was built in nineteen fifty two. It has
48:34
more problems than you can count. It's it's it's a ridiculous house, right,
48:39
But you know what our mortgage payments are three hundred and seven dollars every
48:45
two All right, is that her or me? I don't know now,
48:54
Karen, you're still talking. Yeah, yeah, we heard that. Yeah,
48:58
we heard your We heard your mortgage recording on your end. Anyways,
49:00
but you should do the things, Yeah, you should do the things,
49:05
and then we'll we'll get into the next Well, I got a bunch of
49:07
super chats to super childs to read, too, So we'll do the things
49:12
then we'll read the super cholds. Then we'll get into the next which is
49:15
uh, Judith Judith Butler Butler. Yeah, very Judith Butler. I always
49:21
get her mixed up with Julie Bindle. Their names are too similar. But
49:23
Judith Butler is a different, a different wicked witch. Jually, yeah,
49:27
different Judith. The thing is, the thing is that the wicked witches are
49:31
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50:45
right. So I got some superchows. Some of them disappeared from my stream
50:51
social stream ninja, so I won't be able to display them. But Richard
50:53
Pierre gives us five bucks and says was Sam prepared to deal with the horde
50:59
of all the Karen? Have you seen that video of the Indian man who
51:02
on a close close to a one hundred K salary was still hitting up food
51:07
banks an interesting thing is that apparently there is some public image agency that takes
51:12
action against people who create negative public perception of Indians. However, this agency
51:17
is curiously silent about the scam call centers operating out of India though, and
51:22
possibly related to the actual show topic. Yeah, because that sounds super weird.
51:27
Is there a link between sexual arousal and fear in women to the extent
51:30
that one can't be experienced without the other? Manscaping is too much information to
51:36
be sharing, Karen. This is just like a spaghetti and minnestrone at the
51:40
same time. Thank you Richard for that go ahead. That was very multi
51:47
topic, yet he was getting the most out of his five bucks. Yeah,
51:55
it was multi fast albums with Karen's. He knows how to hit,
52:00
he knows how to handle them. And and then uh, okay, the
52:05
man escaping. I only know this because he you know, like, we
52:12
have a bathroom downstairs that we have to use communally, and uh he has
52:19
he has a man escaping kit. Ah. It's not like he's covered in
52:22
short and curly's count on the counter. Oh No, like he's he's like
52:27
a sasquatch. Right, lower arms down, his eggs right, it's like
52:37
like Sean Connery and Zardas. You know, remember that he's he's even masculinity
52:45
all all over his chest too, like he's hairer than my husband. Yeah,
52:52
yeah no, but but yeah no and my other son too. Just
52:58
hair likes sasquatch legs. Yeah much. Children. Do you have a little
53:04
bit of sasquatch? Yeah? No, I actually have very very fine,
53:12
pale hair. All right, next, yeah, let's let's do it.
53:16
I got another super Chat super Child from Richard not Richard Pierre, but it's
53:21
just Richard for five bucks. And they say how much of this would still
53:23
be invisible had not Cassie J Not made The Red Pill? I think had
53:29
had CATJ not made The Red Pill? Is what it meant to say,
53:31
actually a lot of it. I'm guessing that Cassiej's movie made a massive impact.
53:37
That's what I would guess. But what do you guys think? I'm
53:42
thinking that my computer has stopped stop recording, Karen, why don't you try
53:51
like starting everything and then coming back in. I'm gonna hang up and all
53:57
right, I come back, yeah, okay, all right, just come
54:00
back on. Wait a bit. So we're just gonna I got I gotta
54:04
get through all the super childs and stuff anyway. So all right, so
54:09
what was the last super Child? So yeah, I would say yes,
54:13
Alison, what do you think do you think Cassie Jay's movie made a big
54:15
difference? Yeah? Really critical? Yeah, absolutely, probably more than anything
54:21
else. I agree one hundred percent. Yep. What do you guys think?
54:24
Let us know in the comments. I think that her film has been
54:29
had done the rounds. She made a lot of appearances and it's and you
54:32
know what, it changed her life in a significant way, And I think
54:36
that's enough, right. Richard Bierre gives us five bucks and says the economically
54:42
disadvantage our Pokemon cards for women got to get them all The three h fours
54:45
on the Whatever podcast make themselves look stupid with every with very little external factors
54:51
other than simple questions asked Alison, is there any data that any recovery was
54:55
possible from when the mouse Utopia did go into decline? From what I've heard,
55:00
the beautiful ones even removing, even when removing from that habit tat still
55:05
removed, well, yeah, removed removed from that habitat still didn't show any
55:08
mating interests when placed in a new habitat with a breeding partner. Again,
55:14
multiple multiple comments. I'll let Alison respond first. So when they did do
55:22
the mouse utopia, I'm not sure if that particular mouse utopia did they did
55:27
anything to recover it. I think they were just examining that the ultimate outcome
55:32
of that mouse utopia. But I did hear that the researcher, whose name
55:37
I do not remember, but might have also been Richard at least the first
55:40
name, he did go on to do other mouse utopia So that was just
55:45
one mouse utopia. He had previous mouse utopias, and then he went on
55:47
to do more mouse utopias, and apparently he discovered that to prevent a mouse
55:52
utopia going into decline, you had to give mice creative endeavors. So if
55:59
I I looked and read about the mouse utopia, and what I would say
56:04
is that what happened with the mouse utopia is that by giving the mice in,
56:08
you know, all of the food they could want, all the sanitation,
56:14
they had, everything provided for them. They had ample, ample nesting
56:17
and material and nesting room. Everything was given to them. So it's basically
56:22
the perfect utopia, the perfect communist utopia, right, That's what they reconstructed
56:28
and exactly what I said in response to h to the communists that I've talked
56:32
to, you cannot have a functioning society without some kind of meritocracy because men
56:38
need a purpose. And that's really what happened in the mouse utopia. Oh
56:45
yeah, man women too, but often, you know, like women's purpose
56:50
tends to you know, it's almost like men generate their purpose. And Brian,
56:55
I think you need to do these I can't. I can't, I
56:59
can't. You're just have to deal with it. It won't let me do
57:01
it, So let me do it. Oh my god, did you do
57:06
it? Give it a second? Okay, So essentially, let me just
57:14
finish what I what I what I found out about the mouse utopia. So
57:17
what happened was the male mice had no role because usually male ret mice have
57:22
the role of actually territory defense, uh a resource defense. They had no
57:28
role in the mouse utopia, and then everything deteriorated as a result of that.
57:32
And what the researcher did going forward is he actually gave the mice creative
57:38
things to do. So when he included creativity in the mouse utopia, then
57:44
it continued to thrive. Okay, So that's all I wanted to say,
57:50
all right, about the about the the whatever podcast. I just want to
57:53
say, oh, go ahead, and can you guys, can you guys
57:59
hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. It's just that the echo.
58:01
We're having an echo issue. Okay, Well, do't you mute your
58:07
mics while I'm talking? And no, no, no, it's yeah,
58:13
yeah, mute when I'm when you're not talking, and that should work.
58:17
No, no, I will mute when I'm not talking, right, That's
58:22
what I mean. Well I'm talking and that yeah, okay, all right,
58:28
so I want to risk Calhoun, So go ahead. Boone decided black
58:39
population collect are over population. But I looked at it's like none of these
58:49
mice a thing, right, Like they don't have to work for anything,
58:55
and so they all get lazy today, screwy in the head and rates seven
59:13
percent cheek in experiments that he did. And that was after implantation, like
59:29
so ely miscarriage, right, females couldn't and then the baby excess lee born
59:39
full termed it up because their mothers just couldn't because things to do. They
59:52
had no they had they had no wearriment, they had no outside pressure on
1:00:00
them, right, and they were like, well, I'll survive, and
1:00:08
you know, and if my baby's and it's like the perfect example of abortion
1:00:17
in which you wait for a baby at this time, right, and so
1:00:27
I'll just abort it because you have another one later. There's who decided Rose
1:00:39
Mcowan is one right have an abortion when they were right, and now they
1:00:45
have no children and way too. You know, they just had other things
1:00:51
to do, miserable and unhappy and blaming everything on men and embracing radical feminism.
1:00:59
And it's like, why didn't the baby that you were stuck? Like,
1:01:04
why didn't you just do that? You can't build heaven on earth.
1:01:12
You can't build heaven on earth. All right, okay, let me read
1:01:17
that. Let me I just want to say about the three or fours on
1:01:20
the Whatever podcast, so I don't again I agree with Richard Bierre for this
1:01:25
because the women that go on there, they go on they're proud of all
1:01:30
their decisions, and I don't think that the people who are I mean sometimes
1:01:35
you get like, you know, kind of aggressive counter hosts that want to
1:01:38
like put women, these women in their place or whatever. But I mean,
1:01:42
like they choose to go on there. They make a lot of money,
1:01:45
like they're not victims of those decisions. So I'm not gonna like pretend
1:01:49
like they're being you know, like put on I don't know, like on
1:01:52
display, like some sacrificial lamb to be made fun of. I don't.
1:01:57
I don't. I'm not going to do that, And I don't really appreciate
1:02:00
that Lauren Southern like tries to cape for these women. And I will say
1:02:05
too, I've seen other guys do that. I've seen Andrew Claven do.
1:02:07
It's like, oh, these poor ladies. It's like, no, they
1:02:09
chose to go on there. They make They go on there to brag about
1:02:13
making like tens of thousands of dollars a month on their only fans. They
1:02:16
seem to think they're happy. They probably will come to the realization that they're
1:02:21
miserable later, but I can't. I'm sorry, but I don't have sympathy
1:02:24
just in the same way that I don't have sympathy for you know, a
1:02:28
man that does, like you know, maybe like horse himself out too much,
1:02:30
or you know, plays the field for too long and then finds himself
1:02:34
alone. I mean, you are an adult. You make choices. If
1:02:37
you choose to go on the whatever podcast. You know what it's about.
1:02:40
Now, these women are not THEMB, sorry but they're not. They're not
1:02:45
lambs that don't know what's going on. Like, they've made that choice.
1:02:47
We have to treat them like adults. That's where this whole thing starts.
1:02:51
It's to start by treating them like adults. So all right. Next super
1:02:54
child is Urushima used the ten bucks and says, hey, Karen, do
1:02:58
you still dream about Tucker fisting Eastern European hookers? I assume no, that
1:03:09
was that won't That was only one and it was very disturbing. Yeah,
1:03:19
And then I don't know in his way. Then I got one from Anonymous
1:03:31
for twenty bucks and they say Brian should be on every show. That's Brian
1:03:37
with a WI so I don't know who he's talking about. And BX,
1:03:39
the person you interviewed, has Pearl Derangement syndrome. Yeah, I mean BX
1:03:45
is a little you know, I like her overall. I mean I think
1:03:50
that she can overstretch her you know, maybe on some things like overreach,
1:03:54
but I like her overall. But thank you for that, Anonymous. And
1:04:00
then we got one more from Richard Bierre for let me super fine super child
1:04:06
in here? Where is it? For five bucks? And he says,
1:04:11
Karen, don't you realize how many sweatshop employees are depending upon those very spending
1:04:15
habits or an unsustainable, unsustainable livelihood and meager income. Yeah exactly, I
1:04:21
mean all right. And then I got some super chats as well. I'm
1:04:27
just gonna get through those and then we'll keep going because people do give us
1:04:30
these. So Gary Thomas gave us ten bucks and says, hey, y'all,
1:04:33
hey, y'all, regarding women's suffering. Sorry, I said, hey
1:04:35
y'all. I've been in Virginia too long. Hey, y'all, regarding women's
1:04:39
suffrage. I saw feminist say that women needed the right to vote because women
1:04:43
gaining the right to vote aligning with the ages of consent being raised across the
1:04:47
US. Thank you for the ten dollars, Gary, It's not a right
1:04:53
as far as I'm concerned. But that's another conversation. Gary Thomas then gives
1:04:57
us five bucks and says that sounds like horseshit because I remember several prominent feminists
1:05:00
of the past advocating for struggles snuggling with kids. And then we get one
1:05:08
more from Gary Thomas for let me see if I see that here? I
1:05:13
think it was in my Yes, here we go from Gary Thomas, it
1:05:16
says, in regards to Islam, isn't it true that when it first came
1:05:19
along, it was seen in many ways as much more progressive than Christianity was
1:05:24
at the time. I think a lot of feminists still defend Islam as the
1:05:27
most feminist religion, and it is really No, it's accessible a family and
1:05:43
still maintained the obligation of men to pay for everything. Also, Allison just
1:05:49
now clicking my mind to mute for no reason because river Side mm hmm.
1:06:11
So what I wonder if like if it, if it if Riverside is struggling
1:06:15
with the three people, because it's well if I mean, Karen, you're
1:06:18
on you're on Wi Fi? Right, yes, okay, so in thing
1:06:33
I'm listening. Yeah, she's got she's muted, unfortunately, I think so.
1:06:41
I think she's ranting at the moment, but we can't hear you there.
1:06:46
There might be a delay in when you click it and then when it
1:06:49
says computer, Karen's computer stop, computer stop. Yeah, we should maybe
1:06:57
we should just should let's you know what, let us Okay, guys,
1:07:01
I apologize. We are trying out a new format, a new platform.
1:07:08
It's we can't do a full run through without actually doing a full run through,
1:07:13
so we're probably gonna have to uh, I'm not okay. What we'll
1:07:16
do is this, we will go to the Patron Show. Now, I
1:07:23
didn't set one up. Oh you didn't set one up. No, I
1:07:27
didn't think there was gonna be a Patron show. Okay, wait wait,
1:07:30
wait, wait everyone, I'm gonna okay, okay, wait wait wait wait
1:07:32
Alison, Alison, Alison, Mine. I am miserable. Okay, my
1:07:41
face feels like it's gonna explode. Okay, I'm I'm gonna. I'm gonna
1:07:48
basically say, uh, leave Judith Butler for Wednesday. Okay, all right,
1:07:57
because and when we will go back to the old, the old way
1:08:00
back. Yeah, I have to move my son from his apartment into my
1:08:05
house over the next two days. Well, I have the flu. Okay,
1:08:11
and and and you know what, I'm yeah no, And I have
1:08:16
not had a nap yet today I was up at three point thirty am swallowing
1:08:21
snot by the gallon. Yeah no, So okay, okay, guys,
1:08:30
we're gonna we're gonna just have to call a day due to the physical illness.
1:08:35
All right, once again, if you want to send us a comment,
1:08:38
we will continue this. We will continue this. We're not giving up.
1:08:43
Well, you and Brian can go it alone. But you know,
1:08:45
I just I'm bowing out. Yeah, go ahead, leave, go bye.
1:08:50
Karen, thanks for giving this a shot. Yeah, thanks for coming
1:08:55
to because you're sick. Oh god, I didn't anyway. I think you
1:08:59
just had. Oh well, when you when you when you stop? Let
1:09:03
me see wait, I should stop the recording right now because then Karen's thing
1:09:09
will upload. So I'm going to stop the recording, but we're still gonna
1:09:13
be streaming. We're all right. Just don't leave Riverside for a bit there,
1:09:18
Karen, because we got to let that upload. Karen successfully uploaded.
1:09:24
We're all we're all done. Okay, all right, we're all done.
1:09:26
Okay, you're all well, And thank you what technical for everybody who kept
1:09:33
kept with us through another technical difficulties with a badger. Hopefully this new platform
1:09:40
change it might end up making it better. Because the last show was great,
1:09:44
it seemed to do really well, but for some reason, when we
1:09:46
add a third person, it's I don't think it's riverside because I think it's
1:09:53
because Karen is on the Wi Fi. Maybe her internet is kind of change.
1:09:58
Well, here's what we'll do. My the internet is. My internet
1:10:01
is fine. It's like the highest speed out there. It's it's basically my
1:10:08
device. And unless you want to buy me a new eighteen dollars MacBook Pro,
1:10:15
it's as good as it's gonna get. Hey, I'm not I'm not
1:10:19
complaining. I'm just saying that, well, forget it, forget it.
1:10:21
Let's just a fun worry about it. We'll move on, all right.
1:10:26
So once again, if I'm going, yes, goodbye, Karen. Thanks
1:10:30
for coming well sick, So once again, if you want to send us
1:10:35
a message, feed the Badger dot com slash just the tip. I apologize
1:10:39
for all of this and the difficulties that we've had today. Hopefully this will
1:10:44
be smoothed out as we go forward. And yeah, I think that ultimately
1:10:51
Karen may need a new computer, but that's sort of out of our range.
1:10:55
So all right, thanks for sticking bias. And again, if you
1:11:00
want to send us a message, feed the Badger dot com slash just the
1:11:02
tip. If you want to support our show, as it were, feed
1:11:06
the Badger dot com slash support. We are, as far as I can
1:11:11
tell from what I've been seeing, there are very few people, and in
1:11:15
particular, very few women, who are willing to throw the ring into the
1:11:20
fires of mortal And that ring is men oppressed women. And it's more than
1:11:27
that it's the truth, because it isn't. It's never it's it's basically just
1:11:31
somebody somewhere someday just said, you know, men oppress women, and then
1:11:36
everybody was like, yeah, that makes sense. And no one ever questioned
1:11:41
it, never questioned it properly, never gave it a rigorous examination, this
1:11:45
assertion that suddenly became everywhere. But it gives women the right to be right
1:11:50
in almost everything, like righte about the past, right about men, right
1:11:56
about social systems, write about utilities, right about what they are owed,
1:12:00
right about what society owes them. It gives women the high ground morally,
1:12:05
and what we're seeing is the result of that. And yeah, if we
1:12:13
want to have if we want to have a future, we got to kick
1:12:16
this out or we got to deal with it, okay, And it's going
1:12:21
to start with that. It's going to start with the people who can do
1:12:24
that. If you can get behind that, please go to feed the Badger
1:12:27
dot com slash just the tip and help us out. All right, Brian
1:12:30
back to you. Thank you for dealing with this. Brian, mm hmm.
1:12:34
Well then yeah, I think that riverside. I mean, like it's
1:12:41
probably good for some things, but we might have to come up with some
1:12:45
workaround. But anyway, if you guys liked this video, please say,
1:12:47
oh wait before I do that, I did get a super a super chat
1:12:53
and I should reat it out. So Dean Domino twenty five gave us a
1:12:58
dollar ninety nine and said, have you guys seen the video Sargon just put
1:13:00
out? Yes, I saw it. Did you watch it? Allison?
1:13:03
I saw it like a couple of days ago when it first went up.
1:13:08
And I will say that, well, I'll say, is this. I
1:13:13
think that I can agree with part of it in that I think that the
1:13:17
best tool that men can use is to essentially have an expectation. What he's
1:13:25
what he's saying is is that, you know, like to encourage ladylike behavior
1:13:30
in women. But where he gets it twisted is that women have no incentive
1:13:35
to do that, so they're going to act how they're going to act.
1:13:40
And I think that what Carl wants is for men not to lower themselves to
1:13:45
women, and that's I'm being really charitable with Carl by saying that, But
1:13:49
I think that the mistake he makes is thinking that men have any authority at
1:13:56
all at this point. And so when men say what they want, or
1:14:00
when they say what do you bring to the table, or where they have
1:14:02
any expectation, it's they can have an expectation, but it really doesn't matter
1:14:08
because women ultimately have all the authority and none of the responsibility. So you
1:14:15
can ask that of men, but it's not going to change anything until you
1:14:19
talk to women. And we've been doing this for ten years and it's been
1:14:21
the same song, you know, the whole time. It's like, we
1:14:26
are not we are not asking women what they can do, and this is
1:14:30
just going to keep going in this direction. And you can't wag your finger
1:14:34
at men endlessly because it won't stop until women make a chase. They have
1:14:40
to take a long, hard look at themselves in the mirror. It's the
1:14:42
only way. But yes, I've seen the video cringe simping from Sargon.
1:14:48
I think there's something about when men become fathers that it changes them biologically.
1:14:54
Honestly, I mean again, I get it. I agree with you guys,
1:14:58
but I'm just saying, like, I think the best thing to do
1:15:00
is for maybe men it has to be. I'm sorry, Alson, did
1:15:05
you want to say something, because I think you've just been waiting. No,
1:15:09
no, go ahead, all right. I was just gonna say I
1:15:11
think that where the change is gonna have to be, it's gonna be two
1:15:15
things. It's gonna have to affect women, and they're either gonna have to
1:15:17
do it themselves or they're gonna have to get nudged by men. But here's
1:15:23
the thing. It's gonna take women who are the peers of these women,
1:15:28
and they're gonna get a lot of flak, and they're gonna have to be
1:15:30
willing to be called to pick me, just like Alison. Does you know
1:15:34
or or Brook or age House Bunny. I think her name is our House
1:15:40
Funny. You know some of these MRAs on Twitter that are females that call
1:15:46
women out, They're gonna get a lot of crap. They're gonna pearls,
1:15:49
gets crap whatever. So it's gonna take women who are the peers of other
1:15:54
women and or it's gonna be and it's gonna be extremely high status men because
1:16:00
they're the only men that women will actually pay attention to, and those men
1:16:03
will have to be let's say, instead of shaming women to motivate them,
1:16:13
I think they're going to have to praise the women who behave in the way
1:16:15
that other women should model themselves. But the problem is is that like,
1:16:20
so like a woman who like what Karl was asking for is basically calling for,
1:16:25
you know, for men to essentially support women who behave in a positive,
1:16:32
like relational, lady like fashion, right, like to like a good
1:16:38
woman should be celebrated and seen as a model for other women to follow.
1:16:43
But there is a problem with that logic, and that is that women generally
1:16:47
don't care what men below whatever their standards are, thinks about women. In
1:16:53
fact, it's like part of the our modern feminist humanist worldview, which is,
1:16:59
you know, men below this level of status, which is like eighty
1:17:01
percent ninety percent of men, they they're not allowed to have any opinion on
1:17:05
women at all, whether it's positive or negative. Right, So only the
1:17:10
extremely high status men can do that. And the truth is is that the
1:17:14
average, really high status man has no incentive to do it either, because
1:17:16
he's like, well, I don't care if these women live up to anything.
1:17:19
I got mine drizzle drizzle, right, So it's it's kind of a
1:17:25
it's kind of a mess. But I think the drizzle drizzle thing is calling
1:17:28
women out right. It is, but it but it's it is, But
1:17:31
it's sort of like it's sort of like it's like migtaw on steroids in a
1:17:39
way. Right, these are They're not necessarily like crazy high status man that
1:17:42
one video is. But these guys are like we're talking about you know,
1:17:48
like I don't know, like the really like the like it would have to
1:17:53
be like Ryan Gosling would have to come out and say, you know,
1:17:57
I really like you have to point to a woman that is like the ideal
1:18:00
of womanhood or like the best partner and say I want a woman like this,
1:18:04
and that woman that he points to has to be like, you know,
1:18:10
very let's say, like an archetypally good woman, not not extra feminine.
1:18:18
That's not necessarily true. They don't have to be like virgins. It's
1:18:23
not nothing like that. That's all very shallow. I mean, like they
1:18:27
embody a kind of archetypal, well, an archetypal feminine. There is a
1:18:32
you know, they they're loving, they're compassionate, they're they're nurturing, they
1:18:39
have whatever the whatever the lady like features would be. Because what's happening is
1:18:44
that like what Laurence Southern is doing. For example, in her videos,
1:18:47
she's saying, you know, I want men to be like the gentlemen from
1:18:51
the nineties. I want men to be gentlemen. But the thing is men
1:18:55
have no there is no incentive for them to be that way. If men
1:19:00
are not ladylike, I mean, like, you can't you know what I
1:19:02
mean. And Carl seems to think that you can go the other way.
1:19:08
Yeah, me, gentlemen without well while women are rewarding bad boys. Well,
1:19:14
but the thing is that that really is difficult. Yeah. One of
1:19:20
the things the issues said just with what this, if you stop the recording,
1:19:25
what we will put up as a podcast might be truncicated, so we
1:19:29
should probably well we can stop it there. I just want to read that
1:19:31
last super chat. That last super chat very much appreciated. All right,
1:19:36
So once again, feed the Badger dot com slash just the tip to send
1:19:40
us those tips. Feed the badger dot com slash support to support us to
1:19:43
make sure we can bring you this content. Are you feeling like really isolated
1:19:45
because I'm feeling really isolated, Brian. Why, Well, because it's just
1:19:50
like the more I engage with people, the more I realize that simply saying,
1:19:54
yeah, men don't oppress women is just like it is really out there.
1:19:59
It is a radical statement. Yeah, it well, it is,
1:20:02
it is. I mean, I don't know, I don't I don't feel
1:20:05
isolated per se, but I understand. I just think that we're seeing the
1:20:11
breadth of this lie yeah, and just how widespread. But I but I
1:20:15
knew it though, like I predicted it years ago. I said, you
1:20:18
know, I don't think I don't think this is a necessarily a feminist problem,
1:20:24
like not only feminist women. And when I saw the focus on things
1:20:28
like you know, man spreading man's plaining air conditioning. Oh and to top
1:20:33
it off, I think the worst thing, how I feel like we're wasting
1:20:36
show content. But this title nine thing, this is like the this is
1:20:42
another big, big one. But maybe we can talk about that another one.
1:20:45
So yeah, yeah, previews for new and cooming attractions. Eh,
1:20:50
all right, So I'm going to hand it back to you, Brian.
1:20:53
Let's uh, let's wrap it up, all right, So sorry for all
1:20:57
the issues. I think next time we'll just go back to the drawing board
1:21:00
and maybe maybe we can do is record it and or actually you don't even
1:21:06
have to record. You can just like send the link through riverside and they'll
1:21:11
they can like put some clips together. We can also use video Ninja to
1:21:15
do video. But if but if the problem is Karen's connection is stretched too
1:21:20
thin, if she's got video and Mike and you know what I mean,
1:21:25
that could be it because it was not a problem for me. But anyway,
1:21:29
we'll we'll just we'll try something else, all right. So anyway,
1:21:31
yeah, we'll figure something out. But we're gonna wrap it up there.
1:21:34
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1:21:50
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1:21:55
be pretty interesting stuff. So have a great Sunday. On Sunday, see
1:22:00
you guys the next one