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The Golden Finale (Joan’s Version) · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with on our radio.
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Speaker 2: Happy Finale Week of the Golden Bachelorette. We are here
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Speaker 2: today to break down the finale of Joon's amazing season
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Speaker 2: of The Golden Bachelorette. Joan thrives, Joan looks beautiful, But
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Speaker 2: the big question going into this episode was did Joan
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Speaker 2: find love?
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Speaker 3: Ashley, good morning.
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Speaker 4: Good morning. It's a little early for us, but I'm fine.
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Speaker 4: Guess what this was? This is my announcement. Guess the
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Speaker 4: least dramatic finale of all time? Would you gury? Here's
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Speaker 4: no stakes.
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Speaker 2: This could have been a ten minute episode and it
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Speaker 2: would have been beautiful. I don't want to take anything
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Speaker 2: from the what I think will be a very healthy, exciting,
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Speaker 2: loving couple, and we're very excited for them here.
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Speaker 3: But it could have been a ten minute episode.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and actually it kind of felt like a ten
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Speaker 4: minute episode because when I recapped it in my brain,
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Speaker 4: I was just like, dump Sky gets engaged.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: I wonder, actually, if we take away the live TV portion,
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Speaker 2: if how much we saw them together was actually maybe
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Speaker 2: like twenty minutes.
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Speaker 4: They could have extended like the meet and greet with
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Speaker 4: the family or the date that.
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Speaker 2: They had some then well that's where I want to
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Speaker 2: start breaking down this episode. Obviously, Joan's family flies into
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Speaker 2: experience this week with Joan, They're gonna meet the two
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Speaker 2: guys remaining. This is a really fun time I think
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Speaker 2: for the family because they've gotten to watch Joan or.
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Speaker 3: Not get the watch. They've gotten to sit.
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Speaker 2: At home and wait for Joan for the last few months,
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Speaker 2: and now they actually get to kind of dive into
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Speaker 2: the process, catch up with her, make sure she's healthy
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Speaker 2: and happy, and then meet the guys that she's falling
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Speaker 2: in love with, and then also have a lot of
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Speaker 2: fun while you're doing it.
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Speaker 3: It's like a big family vacation in a lot of ways.
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Speaker 4: I know, I know. I was just thinking about their flight, though,
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I get so stressed for other people flying.
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Speaker 4: I'm just like, no, Bori Bora is beautiful, but is
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Speaker 4: it worth a sixty hour fly?
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Speaker 3: Have you been to bor Bora?
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Speaker 4: No? Have you?
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Speaker 3: No? Never?
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Speaker 4: It's actually number one on my vacation list. Like I'd
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Speaker 4: like to go to Paris and England and like well
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Speaker 4: to the Netherlands with my family because my mom's touch.
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Speaker 4: But like as far as a vacation, lie outside every day.
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Speaker 4: I wanted to go to bor bar number one.
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Speaker 2: I mean it looks I mean, so last night, Yesica
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Speaker 2: and I watched this together. She was was actually our anniversary.
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Speaker 2: So this is what we did in our niversary.
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Speaker 4: The fastest three years of our lives.
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Speaker 3: I know, isn't that crazy?
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Speaker 4: Happy universary?
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: I've been gone all week. I got home last night.
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Speaker 2: She got home really late from work. We're going to
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Speaker 2: celebrate our anniversary at some date to be determined, and
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Speaker 2: we will.
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Speaker 3: I'll make sure of it and she'll make sure of it.
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Speaker 2: But last night we're like, you know what, we're both tired,
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Speaker 2: we've been gone. Let's just turn on the show and
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Speaker 2: watch it because I've got to do the show tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: And so we watch this.
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Speaker 2: In one of the first takeaways, and I always like
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Speaker 2: hearing Jessica's opinion because she doesn't really watch the show,
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Speaker 2: and so it's always a new and fresh opinion, it
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Speaker 2: was can you believe? Yeah, she is, I mean, she
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Speaker 2: gives us great input. And she said, can you believe
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Speaker 2: how beautiful that water is? Is a gorgeous place.
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Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking.
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Speaker 3: And then her second question to me Ashley. Which comes
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Speaker 3: up at this point is why is Joan on a boat?
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Speaker 4: They just had her to go on a boat as
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Speaker 4: if it was the mode of transportation to go to her.
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Speaker 3: She was living on a boat.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were on a cruise. Yeah. Yeah. The last
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Speaker 4: week they kind of they lightly established that. It was like,
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Speaker 4: why I like it because I'm a cruiser.
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Speaker 2: I mean, guys, home was gorgeous and looked like paradise.
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Speaker 3: Joan, it looked nice. I'm not gonna say I mean a.
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Speaker 4: Guy was living in another location. Yeah, I thought they
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Speaker 4: were all on the boat.
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Speaker 3: No, he was. He was inland.
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Speaker 4: Okay, Now that's a little strange, but it was. We
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Speaker 4: know it was an ad It was good. I don't
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Speaker 4: remember wind was it Woodmere Cruises?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it was beautiful. It works.
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Speaker 2: I would love to go on a cruise. Love cruises.
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Speaker 2: It just was a little awkward that she had a
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Speaker 2: cruise boat parked there and it never moved and she
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Speaker 2: we just see all these scenes of her on.
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Speaker 3: This cruise boat. Hey, not the biggest part of.
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Speaker 2: The story, Chalk is meeting the family for the first time, Ashley.
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Speaker 2: So that's how we kind of kick off this episode.
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Speaker 2: The I think the theme that we could say was
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Speaker 2: going on throughout this meeting was that Joan is still
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Speaker 2: I think she wants her kid's approval on her moving
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Speaker 2: forward with somebody, because I think at this point we
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Speaker 2: probably know she wants to move forward with somebody and
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Speaker 2: she has yet to get their approval on moving forward
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Speaker 2: past her you know, late husband John.
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Speaker 4: Well, she's like, yes, this is the first time she's
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Speaker 4: introducing somebody, so like obviously that those feelings are going
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Speaker 4: to come up. But they did approve her quote quote
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Speaker 4: for being the Golden Bachelorette, so you know they're down
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Speaker 4: for her moving on.
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Speaker 2: I think there was my biggest question was how is
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Speaker 2: Chalking to handle it? Handle it? You know, he's been
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Speaker 2: very intentional with Joan since the beginning. I mean we
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Speaker 2: kind of saw it during this recap with I'm Crazy
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Speaker 2: about You.
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Speaker 3: It was like a lot he was.
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, there was sobut it.
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Speaker 2: He was very into her, So I personally was not
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Speaker 2: concerned or wondering. I guess would be the better way
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Speaker 2: to say that for him if he would be a
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Speaker 2: little too pushy or kind of strong, too strong to
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Speaker 2: the kids, like be like, hey, I call me daddy
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Speaker 2: kind of thing. He didn't at that point, I figure
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Speaker 2: at that point, I was one hundred percent sure he
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Speaker 2: was the one being chosen because he did so well
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Speaker 2: walking through that and saying, I don't want to replace
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Speaker 2: your dad. You know, it's going to be a big
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Speaker 2: shoes to fill kind of stuff. But he was very
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Speaker 2: conscious about, hey, we got to celebrate the two people
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Speaker 2: that came, you know, into our lives earlier, and then
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Speaker 2: also just have a lot of fun in the future.
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Speaker 2: He said the right things that he's never said all season.
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Speaker 2: That's all close this up is he said the right
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Speaker 2: things that he's never said all season, Like what I
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Speaker 2: really want with Joan is to have adventure and have
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Speaker 2: fun and to like celebrate the rest of my life
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Speaker 2: with her. It felt like all of a sudden, he
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Speaker 2: became the Pascal, and he became the Jonathan.
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Speaker 3: He became himself.
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Speaker 4: It's a little bit more. Yeah, yeah, what did you
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Speaker 4: think about the sun? He was very He like had
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Speaker 4: the look of judgment, which was hilarious. But then like
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Speaker 4: it turns out that he liked he really liked him.
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Speaker 4: He just seems to be taking over as the protective
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Speaker 4: figure in the family.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, what I think.
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Speaker 2: I think at first, I thought, oh, this is going
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Speaker 2: to be bad, like this kid, this poor son is
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Speaker 2: going to be protective. It is going to come off
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Speaker 2: really weird, and he's going to be weirded out by it.
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Speaker 2: He loosened up over time, he did. I think what
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Speaker 2: I got from him just watching him is he really
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Speaker 2: just doesn't want to be there. He was like, I,
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Speaker 2: this is stupid. I just got off of sixteen hour
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Speaker 2: flight and that you're now telling me my mom's going
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Speaker 2: to send the other guy home tomorrow and I have
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Speaker 2: to leave in two days. Like this is stupid. I
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Speaker 2: am so mad that I came again.
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Speaker 4: I was just thinking, like, I really hope they let
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Speaker 4: them vacation a little bit. Well while there after that, I.
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Speaker 2: Think, I think there's a lot going on in his
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Speaker 2: head behind the scenes. And he was like, I'm happy
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Speaker 2: for you mom, Like this is great. This guy seems good.
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Speaker 2: He's fine. You just made me fly sixteen hours for
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Speaker 2: two days, Like I want to. I want to yell
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Speaker 2: you on national television, but I can't.
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Speaker 4: Hey, Ben, the one thing we didn't talk about that
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Speaker 4: happened earlier in this episode that I must talk to
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Speaker 4: you about is that they like started her up with
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Speaker 4: the whole maybe I'm unlovable storyline, and since you are
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Speaker 4: the owner of that storyline, why did they do this?
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Speaker 4: This was never something that she felt. It's a ridiculous
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Speaker 4: you've been married for you were married for so long,
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Speaker 4: you have children, You're very much lovable, just as you
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Speaker 4: were very much lovable. But she said that when Pascal
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Speaker 4: said he didn't love me, it hurt her to the end.
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Speaker 4: Then she thought that you think it was made up,
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Speaker 4: don't you. They were like, oh, let's like throw a
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Speaker 4: bud storyline in here really quick for a little drama,
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Speaker 4: because it's the least ramatic episode ever.
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Speaker 2: Can I say this, Actually, I need to get residuals,
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Speaker 2: I need to get paid.
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Speaker 4: I love you to two the people and.
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Speaker 2: This yeah, because then we see Grant season preview. He's
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Speaker 2: standing there like, I don't know who to choose, and
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Speaker 2: Jesse's like, we have them waiting, you know, let us
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Speaker 2: know who we need to send first.
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Speaker 3: So he's obviously in love with two people.
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Speaker 2: Every single lead since season twenty has been in the
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Speaker 2: love of two people. And now last night I looked
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Speaker 2: at it when Jones said, I said, no, I suggest
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Speaker 2: that's my thing. I Yeah, I don't know. And for me,
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Speaker 2: it's been such a like pivotal moment, like for me
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Speaker 2: personally changed book. I wrote a whole book about it.
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Speaker 2: It enhanced the way I saw myself and I saw
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Speaker 2: the world night.
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Speaker 3: And so.
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Speaker 2: My first thought is, I'm if that is true for Joan,
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Speaker 2: then I am glad that she is able to admit
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Speaker 2: it openly if that is not true, and the show
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Speaker 2: pride to get something out of her to make this
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Speaker 2: episode a little more dramatic, a little more you know,
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Speaker 2: a little more confusing. Uh, that's sad, it diminishes the story.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think it was probably one of those
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Speaker 4: moments where she's in the interview room and she's crying.
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Speaker 4: She's obviously very upset that Pascal left, who I believe
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Speaker 4: was number two in her heart. And then somebody was
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Speaker 4: probably like, how did that make you feel? Like? Did
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Speaker 4: it make you feel like maybe you're unlovable?
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Speaker 3: And then she says it kind of did, and they said, so,
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Speaker 3: do you feel unlovable? And she was, I feel unlovable?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And then all of a sudden she's just saying
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Speaker 4: this to Nancy and she's probably taking a step back
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Speaker 4: a couple of days later and being like, why the
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Speaker 4: hell did I say that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that didn't make any sense. Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, goodness, I said that, which was a very
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Speaker 2: like real true moment, unexpected, not even coerced. And then I,
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Speaker 2: you know, obviously have the two I love yous. At
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Speaker 2: some point residuals would be appreciated. I mean, I got
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Speaker 2: a family to raise. This is a father talking about
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Speaker 2: future future father. So that was a big deal, and
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Speaker 2: it was great to see Nancy come though. I do
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Speaker 2: think Nancy was probably a just love her. Yeah, she's
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Speaker 2: such a great just a great human carrying you know,
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Speaker 2: she's a great listener. Again, though, let's give Nancy credit
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Speaker 2: on a sixteen hour flight for probably I bet this
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Speaker 2: show gave her a day, Like they probably flew her
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Speaker 2: in and flew her out.
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Speaker 4: Well, no, because she was in last week's episode. I
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Speaker 4: don't know if you saw it because Jared was here,
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Speaker 4: but she had two episodes few so at least she
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Speaker 4: was there for three days.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, that's true.
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Speaker 2: It's still it's rushed, but Nancy's amazing and she is
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Speaker 2: a great, I mean, the perfect person for Joan to
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Speaker 2: confide in Actually I didn't get this since through this
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Speaker 2: whole entire episode that Joan was ever going to leave
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Speaker 2: this thing single.
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Speaker 3: I know that.
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Speaker 2: Was something they were kind of right, I know, And
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Speaker 2: I think that's why the drama of this episode never
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Speaker 2: felt strong. It was never dramatic, because even though they
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Speaker 2: tried really hard to kind of do what they do
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Speaker 2: every finale, which was like, is anybody gonna get chosen?
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Speaker 2: Is the league gonna get chosen? Is somebody gonna go
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Speaker 2: home early? That kind of stuff that you always have
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Speaker 2: going on in your head. It they tried, it just
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Speaker 2: didn't work. I think the whole time, we knew that
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Speaker 2: she was going to be leaving with somebody, and it
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Speaker 2: felt very much for the last goodness month and a
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Speaker 2: half that it was.
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Speaker 3: Going to be Chock.
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Speaker 4: No, I don know ever, since he left to go
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Speaker 4: to his mom's, you know, to figure out his mom's arrangements. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: we pretty much knew it was Chock. And also the
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Speaker 4: fact that like, not only was he so obviously the
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Speaker 4: one that she was into, the person that she was
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Speaker 4: like into second was just so far apart in feelings,
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Speaker 4: and I think that person actually was, Like I said earlier,
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Speaker 4: Pascal and I think because Pascal left, she was up
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Speaker 4: a guy who was technically her third choice, so that
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Speaker 4: it was like a no brainer and they couldn't even
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Speaker 4: fake the drama.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean it's it's sad to watch.
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Speaker 2: I think it's really hard to watch the Golden Bachelor
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Speaker 2: Bachelor atte show because the emotions seem so raw, and
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Speaker 2: they also seem in a sense foreign to a lot
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Speaker 2: of these people, especially the men. It doesn't feel like
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Speaker 2: Guy cries often like he did there. It felt like
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Speaker 2: it came from a very hurt place, and so that
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Speaker 2: was difficult to watch.
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Speaker 3: Actually, I do have a question for you.
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Speaker 2: Though we obviously see the breakup with Guy, the crowd
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Speaker 2: is shocked. People are surprised. Don't think anybody is surprised
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Speaker 2: that Guy's the one that's going home. I think they're
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Speaker 2: surprised that guys and how Guy went home. Then they
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Speaker 2: have the live show with Guy on it, and they
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Speaker 2: still yet they receive to ask him the questions that
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Speaker 2: all of the public now knows. This is not a secret,
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Speaker 2: This is not like Reddit sleuthing.
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Speaker 4: I feel like this is still kind of like one
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Speaker 4: of those things where it's like if you just watch
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Speaker 4: the show and you watch it on TV and you
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Speaker 4: don't do any sort of your Instagram feed isn't about it,
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Speaker 4: then maybe you don't know that he had a restraining
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Speaker 4: order against him from his ex wife. It's so weird though,
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Speaker 4: to see them like up there and like not worshiping
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Speaker 4: what's the other like like idolized to kind of like
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Speaker 4: idolizing him, just making him seem like the perfect guy
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Speaker 4: to date, And You're just like, in the back of
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Speaker 4: my head, I'm just like, how are they pretending like
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Speaker 4: he's the perfect guy to date when his ex wife
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Speaker 4: got a restraining order on him?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I don't No, I don't even have a theory for
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Speaker 2: I thought they would at least ask him. I thought
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Speaker 2: they would at least bring it up and say, hey,
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Speaker 2: obviously you've been in the news, do you want to
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Speaker 2: tell us more about this situation, because as right now,
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Speaker 2: the show seems to be taking this strategy of like
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Speaker 2: don't ask, don't tell. They didn't say anything with about Devin,
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Speaker 2: they didn't say anything about guy. They did kind of
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Speaker 2: come out, I think, on a short, little, you know,
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Speaker 2: statement on social media and say.
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Speaker 3: Bil for Gil.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they didn't really ever then confront it and
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Speaker 2: he still was on our you know show a lot,
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Speaker 2: so I don't know what's going on.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening.
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Speaker 4: It's weird. Also, like you and I very much like
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Speaker 4: will forgive right, It's like, not a big deal. I'm
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Speaker 4: not going to cancel you guy, but I I But
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Speaker 4: but because it's not an addressed, it lingers in my head.
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Speaker 4: If I heard the story from him, I'd probably be
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Speaker 4: more forgiving because his family seems to have been very forgiving.
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Speaker 4: But like I maybe even jumping the gun here, but
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Speaker 4: you know, just tell me the story a little bit.
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Speaker 2: I don't need as an outside stranger, the juicy details.
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Speaker 2: What I do want to know is if you were
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Speaker 2: the one chosen by Joan, like, tell me how this
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Speaker 2: went down, and if you've, yeah, why your family's forgiven
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Speaker 2: you maybe or maybe even more important than that, I
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Speaker 2: want the show to tell us how in the world
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Speaker 2: these guys keep getting on the show.
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Speaker 4: Also, Joan obviously knows and she still thinks of him
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Speaker 4: very highly, so I'm assuming that she knows the story.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm assuming she does now too. Anyways, that was
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Speaker 2: just weird. It was kind of the hot seating moment
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Speaker 2: that never became hot. They the two of them seem cordial.
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Speaker 2: He still seems very much into Joan, and I think
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Speaker 2: he really was into Joan throughout the season. I think
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Speaker 2: he was a late burn. I think it happened like
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Speaker 2: last week. All of a sudden, he goes, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 2: there's two of us left. Do I really like this woman?
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Speaker 2: And he goes, I actually do. I love her? But
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Speaker 2: Joan wasn't there yet at that point. I think Chok
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Speaker 2: had been her number one for way long, for a long.
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Speaker 3: Time, and.
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Speaker 2: You know, it was a sweet moment for her to
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Speaker 2: walk and I think do it in the way she did.
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Speaker 2: I think this was a good thing for her to do.
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Speaker 2: I will say this, Ashley, for as little of you know,
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Speaker 2: the finale as we actually got to solve see because
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Speaker 2: of that breakup Joan, Joan's going to be really hard
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Speaker 2: to replace as a Golden Bachelorette.
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Speaker 3: She's going to be She's going to be.
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Speaker 2: Really hard for them to find anybody that navigates a
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Speaker 2: process like she did.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: I think they'll find one somebody that's maybe more emotional.
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Speaker 2: They might find somebody who is a little more dramatic.
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Speaker 2: Maybe they'll find somebody that has that really big personality
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Speaker 2: kind of the Caitlin Bristows and the Jojo Fletcher's of
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Speaker 2: the world that really, you know, bring to life the
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Speaker 2: whole show. But Joan, as you're spokesperson as your first
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Speaker 2: is an elegance and the elegance and the beauty Jessica
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Speaker 2: last night again back to our third silent host for
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Speaker 2: this episode. Joan's sitting on stage at one point and
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Speaker 2: Jessica goes, she like last She goes, can you imagine
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Speaker 2: if that's your grandma? Like, how messed up is that?
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Speaker 4: Like she's hot, she looks great, she does just carry
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Speaker 4: herself so beautifully. She will be hard to compete with.
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Speaker 4: You know what we didn't talk about. We didn't talk
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Speaker 4: about how they had been planning to get a New
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Speaker 4: York apartment and Chock and her are going to spend
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Speaker 4: a lot of time here and they're going to they're
18:53
Speaker 4: going to decorate it and he like basically gave her
18:56
Speaker 4: like a book of plans for it, which is adorable.
19:00
Speaker 4: As the gift that we sees typical for this episode,
19:04
Speaker 4: it did make me wonder, like I which they told
19:08
Speaker 4: us more about their living situation, didn't even ask about
19:10
Speaker 4: that on after the final rows. I'm assuming that they're
19:13
Speaker 4: going to live in Maryland, which is where she's from,
19:16
Speaker 4: and then they'll go up to New York, which is
19:18
Speaker 4: like three and a half hours from her.
19:20
Speaker 3: It's a good point, Ashley.
19:21
Speaker 2: I mean that should be the number one question I
19:23
Speaker 2: think that Jesse brings up during this now because it
19:25
Speaker 2: was such a big deal with you know, Gary and teresas,
19:29
Speaker 2: what are you guys going to do now? What is
19:30
Speaker 2: next for the two of you? Especially if the show
19:35
Speaker 2: knows they're doing well?
19:36
Speaker 4: Do you think that was an allusion to them?
19:38
Speaker 2: No, I don't think I think it was a miss.
19:41
Speaker 2: I think what I'm saying is I think it should
19:43
Speaker 2: have been asked so we all get excited for them.
19:46
Speaker 4: Because, as Theresa and we you know, addressed a couple
19:50
Speaker 4: of weeks ago, you know, location was the reason for
19:56
Speaker 4: their breakup publicly, even though she told us there is more.
20:00
Speaker 2: So wouldn't it be interesting to know what is next
20:02
Speaker 2: for you guys? We didn't really get that question more
20:05
Speaker 2: than how exciting is it now and that you're going
20:08
Speaker 2: to Disney World and the college football playoffs are going
20:10
Speaker 2: to be happening on ABC or ESPN. I have a
20:15
Speaker 2: buddy from my golf course that I golf with, and
20:19
Speaker 2: he watches the show so consistently with his wife, and
20:25
Speaker 2: last night I was I was coming back late from
20:27
Speaker 2: a retreat and I hadn't been able to watch it yet.
20:30
Speaker 2: But he texts me and he says, my goodness, Jesse
20:34
Speaker 2: just randomly drops at the college football playoffs are going
20:36
Speaker 2: to be having on ESPN, and that he gets to
20:38
Speaker 2: announce a game.
20:39
Speaker 3: And then he said, should have been you.
20:43
Speaker 4: As the host of the show.
20:45
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, and that I got to do the college
20:47
Speaker 2: fell at least invite me.
20:48
Speaker 3: I don't know. Anyways, I'm feeling.
20:51
Speaker 4: That I feel left out for you.
20:55
Speaker 2: I always wake up a little slow and just wake
20:58
Speaker 2: up kind of in this place of I very but
21:03
Speaker 2: the the a random drop. We were laying there watching
21:08
Speaker 2: it ourselves, and we just both went, huh.
21:10
Speaker 4: It's a very weird because it's not like the same
21:12
Speaker 4: demographic necessarily No.
21:14
Speaker 2: And then the national championship trophies just sitting next to Jesse,
21:17
Speaker 2: which means wild Joan and Chalk are both like pouring
21:20
Speaker 2: their heart out about their relationship. Some little producer walks
21:23
Speaker 2: up with the trophy and since it's right next to Jesse.
21:26
Speaker 2: So those two see it and are like looking at
21:28
Speaker 2: that thing while they're like, yeah, it's been an amazing ride.
21:31
Speaker 3: We've had such a good time together.
21:33
Speaker 4: When they did the Mormon Wives Show, when they plugged.
21:36
Speaker 4: That was that during gens or this previous season, one
21:40
Speaker 4: of those finales, and that made sense because like people
21:44
Speaker 4: who watch dramatic women like to watch dramatic women, so
21:48
Speaker 4: that's all in the same boat. This was like just
21:52
Speaker 4: very off, but whatever, I remember, Okay, I had one
21:55
Speaker 4: more thought that I wanted to say about guy, and
21:57
Speaker 4: I'm sorry ABC, but about their straight order. See, because
22:04
Speaker 4: you didn't bring it up. I actually worried that he's
22:06
Speaker 4: crazier than he actually might be.
22:09
Speaker 2: Well that so I'm saying it would have done everybody
22:10
Speaker 2: better for him to talk about it.
22:13
Speaker 4: Yes see, because what do we see him crying and
22:17
Speaker 4: he's very emotional and he's saying a couple of little things.
22:21
Speaker 4: I'm interpreting his milk. This guy's gonna blow up. He's
22:24
Speaker 4: gonna show his cheer colors. You know, he's crazy. Man.
22:27
Speaker 4: He's not as even keeled as he comes across on TV.
22:30
Speaker 4: I know better. Whereas like if he had just talked
22:34
Speaker 4: about it. Then I would have been like, I don't know,
22:36
Speaker 4: maybe I'd interpreted those scenes differently, but I couldn't. The
22:39
Speaker 4: crying made me not The cry made me nervous, But
22:42
Speaker 4: just like him getting broken up with I was like, Oh,
22:45
Speaker 4: is he gonna freak o out?
22:46
Speaker 2: Is he gonna oh I only you're alone, and that
22:49
Speaker 2: kind of moment going what is he gonna, you know,
22:54
Speaker 2: get up and storm out? It ended up being, you know,
22:57
Speaker 2: a very It ended up being a very Chris Stramberg
23:01
Speaker 2: type scene where he's standing on the pier laying his
23:05
Speaker 2: tears out into the ocean, weeping.
23:08
Speaker 4: It was the most him. So if you guys missed
23:12
Speaker 4: a couple episodes ago, Ben said that guy reminds him
23:15
Speaker 4: of Chris's cupcake from his season and the comparison couldn't
23:19
Speaker 4: be more accurate. And they're both doctors.
23:21
Speaker 2: Just to be clear, this was before I knew about
23:25
Speaker 2: any legal Yeah, just to be clear, I don't.
23:31
Speaker 4: Chris Chris, but I love him so much.
23:34
Speaker 2: He's the best of Just saying without you know from
23:37
Speaker 2: the from the surface from the show, they're very similar
23:40
Speaker 2: people and huge muscles.
23:44
Speaker 4: I just also need to throw it there. It had
23:47
Speaker 4: to be wondering if guy got broken up off camera,
23:50
Speaker 4: would it look like this? Do you know what I mean?
23:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you're wrong, and I don't think
23:55
Speaker 2: that's a I don't think you're jumping to this like
23:58
Speaker 2: a place of just being a crazy fan. I think
24:01
Speaker 2: it was probably in a lot of people's minds Ashley.
24:05
Speaker 2: A couple last thoughts on this episode. The family is
24:09
Speaker 2: going to Disney World. What an incredible gift for them
24:11
Speaker 2: to have all their families going out. That sounded fun
24:14
Speaker 2: to me. I wanted to see the reaction from the
24:17
Speaker 2: kids when they said it, though, and we didn't get
24:19
Speaker 2: to see that. We were like, yeah, I mean if
24:23
Speaker 2: I was a little kid and my grandma is on
24:27
Speaker 2: stage dating this dude and I'm in the audience and
24:30
Speaker 2: everybody's celebrating her, and then they tell me, because your
24:34
Speaker 2: grandma went on a dating show, you young man get
24:37
Speaker 2: to go to Disney World. I would have flipped out,
24:42
Speaker 2: like I am running around that stage.
24:44
Speaker 4: Maybe he didn't get to hear it because it's kind
24:47
Speaker 4: of hard to hear things in there, and he's like four,
24:50
Speaker 4: And then there was like the one and a half
24:52
Speaker 4: year old, and then I know there's other grandchildren, but
24:53
Speaker 4: those are the only ones in the audience. I chocked
24:57
Speaker 4: it and seemed super thrilled about going to Disney. He
25:00
Speaker 4: was like Jesus, He's like, damn, I'm like, I just
25:02
Speaker 4: I just ended up with this lady killy romantic vacation.
25:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's probably in the back of his mind, like,
25:09
Speaker 2: I can't get out of work. I've already taken four
25:13
Speaker 2: months off of work this year. I cannot leave again.
25:17
Speaker 2: I have to get back to my normal life. I
25:19
Speaker 2: remember that being a stressor for me because I was
25:22
Speaker 2: still working a full time job post show, and so
25:25
Speaker 2: the show would call and be like can you be
25:27
Speaker 2: in La can you be here?
25:28
Speaker 3: And I can't.
25:29
Speaker 2: Guys, I have a job you yeah, you know you
25:33
Speaker 2: if you want to pay me more, sure love to
25:36
Speaker 2: It is hard, I think probably in the back of
25:38
Speaker 2: his mind right now, Chalk is trying to figure out
25:40
Speaker 2: how to get back to his life with Joan and
25:44
Speaker 2: how to kind of settle into a rhythm. While now
25:48
Speaker 2: it's kind of just starting for Chalk. He hasn't had
25:50
Speaker 2: the opportunities that Jones had. He hasn't gotten into the
25:53
Speaker 2: travel mode. He maybe will be able to retire a
25:55
Speaker 2: little early here because he'll get a nice couple like
25:57
Speaker 2: chunks of money. But yeah, for now, I think it
26:01
Speaker 2: probably would be hard for him to figure out how
26:03
Speaker 2: to leave this job, all right, Ashley, And closing here,
26:07
Speaker 2: we'll talk about Grant season preview, just like the show did.
26:12
Speaker 2: I if there is not a better representation for how
26:17
Speaker 2: quickly the show moves on to the next lead, this
26:20
Speaker 2: episode showed us perfectly. Because yes, it's awesome that Grant
26:25
Speaker 2: was there. I think his season's going to be great.
26:27
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be great. I'm excited to
26:30
Speaker 2: watch it. Not the point. The point is we have
26:34
Speaker 2: this happy couple on this stage, and then they do
26:37
Speaker 2: the preview and then they're exit. Like when we all
26:40
Speaker 2: say goodbye to Joan and Chalk after watching them for
26:43
Speaker 2: the last few months, Grant standing right there beside him,
26:47
Speaker 2: he's there and they have moved on. That show will
26:50
Speaker 2: say Joan and Chalk, great job, good luck, have a
26:53
Speaker 2: lot of fun out there, and Grant come on in, buddy,
26:57
Speaker 2: and they'll do the same thing that Grant when his
26:58
Speaker 2: season's over. Uh, it happens every time.
27:02
Speaker 4: This is why they need that soft rock song and
27:04
Speaker 4: the montage to their love to end the episode that
27:08
Speaker 4: they used to do.
27:09
Speaker 3: Why don't they do that anymore?
27:10
Speaker 4: They don't know.
27:12
Speaker 2: They tried to do it with the pictures, but we
27:13
Speaker 2: as fans get needed to see them because the camera's
27:16
Speaker 2: never zoomed in for us. So there's pictures that were
27:18
Speaker 2: shown on the big screen of the two of them
27:20
Speaker 2: during Happy Couples. I didn't get to see it because
27:24
Speaker 2: the camera is so far away.
27:26
Speaker 4: I really want to know how the happy couples are
27:28
Speaker 4: when you're younger versus when you're older, because like you,
27:31
Speaker 4: guys like never really have a great time in there
27:33
Speaker 4: because you're like bored and want to get it out,
27:35
Speaker 4: and they just seem to they're five. Yeah, crossroads.
27:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
27:42
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm guessing it's I'm guessing it's a little
27:45
Speaker 2: awkward too for them because it doesn't happen right away.
27:50
Speaker 2: You don't get your first for a few weeks into this.
27:54
Speaker 4: For everyone, right, Yeah, it's weird for everyone.
27:56
Speaker 2: And you're like reintroducing yourself. And I think it was
27:59
Speaker 2: so great of Chalk to be like, it was great
28:02
Speaker 2: to get to know her during this time, Which is
28:05
Speaker 2: my advice for any lead that comes onto the show
28:08
Speaker 2: is hey, if you feel like you don't know this person,
28:11
Speaker 2: like you don't have to you know, I've talked about this,
28:13
Speaker 2: you don't have to propose, like that's not like a
28:14
Speaker 2: thing that you are committing to do. But also you'll
28:18
Speaker 2: get to know them later, like really well. And I
28:21
Speaker 2: think that's something that probably for Chalk and Joan is
28:25
Speaker 2: important for them to realize. Is they came off the show,
28:28
Speaker 2: they were probably excited. There was that euphoria, there was
28:31
Speaker 2: that feeling, there's the interest, and then during Happy Couples,
28:34
Speaker 2: I think you really get to know the person better
28:37
Speaker 2: and fall in love or not. But for the two
28:39
Speaker 2: of them at this point, from what we saw during
28:41
Speaker 2: this episode, I think the two of them will make it.
28:43
Speaker 3: I hope they make it.
28:45
Speaker 2: I hope we see a huge success story from this
28:48
Speaker 2: season because Joan deserves it.
28:50
Speaker 3: I think Chalk deserves.
28:51
Speaker 2: It, and I think the fans want to see it
28:53
Speaker 2: from the Golden Show to see that this could work
28:56
Speaker 2: for sure.
29:07
Speaker 4: Should we talk about Grant yea, Let's talk about the preview. Okay,
29:12
Speaker 4: he was definitely a little nervous. When Jesse threw to
29:15
Speaker 4: him in the audience, he was just like inspiring, inspiring, inspiring,
29:19
Speaker 4: but he's very handsome, so it doesn't really matter. That
29:24
Speaker 4: is a nice face to look at for the next
29:26
Speaker 4: you know, however many weeks we get to.
29:28
Speaker 3: Do, it doesn't really matter what he says. He's so handesome, it.
29:31
Speaker 4: Doesn't really matter. He's very stunning. His girls look like
29:35
Speaker 4: they're gonna be dramatic. But yeah, I guess the real
29:40
Speaker 4: kicker is what you've already mentioned. He seems to get
29:44
Speaker 4: to finale day without knowing who he's gonna be. That's
29:49
Speaker 4: that's hard because he's like, Hey, both girls are standing there,
29:52
Speaker 4: there there, We're at this moment. We're already at this moment.
29:56
Speaker 4: We're not in the hotel anymore. We're at the moment
29:58
Speaker 4: and you don't know yet. That's good stuff for us.
30:01
Speaker 2: If I was there with him, and I hope somebody did.
30:05
Speaker 2: I think at that point, if you are so conflicted,
30:08
Speaker 2: honestly conflicted on that day, you can't pick.
30:11
Speaker 4: You have to say, Hi, I'd like to date both
30:12
Speaker 4: the person in real life.
30:14
Speaker 2: Yeah one maybe like really do a heart dive here
30:19
Speaker 2: and say to the person that you're most into that
30:23
Speaker 2: you see a future with. Hey, this has been wild
30:25
Speaker 2: and I haven't been able to have a clear thought
30:30
Speaker 2: in the last couple of months. Can you and I
30:32
Speaker 2: just leave here and try this thing together? And I
30:34
Speaker 2: think that's a fine, that's a fine way to end this.
30:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't get engaged to somebody when two minutes
30:40
Speaker 4: before you're like, I may want to pick the other one.
30:43
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like, Hey, I'm I don't know who I
30:45
Speaker 2: want to fall in love with. Actually I love them both. Hey,
30:48
Speaker 2: I've been there, but I think there was there was
30:52
Speaker 2: always this what, well, who do I see a future with?
30:56
Speaker 2: And I think Grant has to get to that point.
30:58
Speaker 2: His season does seem dramatic, but every season is right,
31:03
Speaker 2: that was Yeah, we'd never know from these previews exactly
31:06
Speaker 2: how the season is going to play out and how
31:09
Speaker 2: these connections are going to go, and how deep we're
31:11
Speaker 2: gonna get to know the cast and get to know Grant.
31:14
Speaker 2: But it will be an exciting season to watch. I'm
31:16
Speaker 2: glad that it will. You know that Grant is the lead.
31:22
Speaker 2: But here's the thing that we need. We need to
31:24
Speaker 2: know him better. We don't know Grant yet.
31:26
Speaker 4: And I'm sorry guys that I'm like making it seem
31:28
Speaker 4: like he's a piece of me. But that you've ever
31:29
Speaker 4: had some want to see his face. It's because I
31:31
Speaker 4: don't know anything. I don't know anything beyond that for him.
31:34
Speaker 4: So now I know that he likes to play piano,
31:38
Speaker 4: that music is really important and expressing his feelings, and
31:42
Speaker 4: that's really cute. He writes a song for one of
31:44
Speaker 4: the girls. Ooh swoony.
31:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good start. I think you're probably you
31:52
Speaker 2: know as much about Grant as any of us do.
31:54
Speaker 2: We know what he looks like, and that's just that's
31:58
Speaker 2: something that is valuable in a relationship. So his season
32:02
Speaker 2: will be coming up next until Grant season. Now that
32:06
Speaker 2: Joan's season of the Golden Bachelrett has done, and let's
32:08
Speaker 2: do something for Joan here that I didn't feel like
32:12
Speaker 2: we got last night. Joan again was elegant, She was patient,
32:19
Speaker 2: She put her heart into this. She was enjoyable to watch.
32:23
Speaker 2: She was easy to root for. She is beautiful on
32:26
Speaker 2: the inside. Now she is an incredible first lead of
32:30
Speaker 2: the Golden Bachelorette and Chalk Chalk has been intentional. He's
32:36
Speaker 2: pursued her even through some huge life tragedy. He came
32:42
Speaker 2: back for her. I think, at least from what we've seen,
32:48
Speaker 2: Chalk loves her deeply and is so grateful for the
32:52
Speaker 2: opportunity to have met her through this experience, and we
32:56
Speaker 2: want to wish the two of them not only the best,
32:58
Speaker 2: but say thank you for letting us watch you and
33:01
Speaker 2: letting us in and your experience and your relationship. And
33:05
Speaker 2: we hope for you peace, enjoy and love all the
33:09
Speaker 2: years to follow, and we hope you have so much
33:11
Speaker 2: adventure and fun. And please keep us updated as fans
33:14
Speaker 2: because we're fans of you.
33:16
Speaker 4: Yes, I really want to know about their life now.
33:19
Speaker 4: Like I know I already followed Joan, but like host
33:23
Speaker 4: some stuff. I want to see what the holidays look
33:25
Speaker 4: like together and all that. You guys are very cute.
33:29
Speaker 4: We're so happy and you're and just to reiterate what
33:31
Speaker 4: Benna said, it's just like she was a beautiful lead
33:36
Speaker 4: inside and out.
33:38
Speaker 2: It's it was an incredible season. We hope all the
33:41
Speaker 2: fans enjoyed it, and we hope all the fans maybe
33:44
Speaker 2: dig it in Grant's word inspired by their love story.
33:48
Speaker 2: And we hope anybody out there listening who is single
33:51
Speaker 2: in their fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties nos that love can
33:56
Speaker 2: be found again. So we take a lotokle break for
34:01
Speaker 2: our off season, where we'll catch up with headlines and
34:04
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34:07
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34:11
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34:14
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