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#HURDLEMOMENT: Everything a Beginner Cyclist Needs to Know With Pro Alison Tetrick · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 2: coming in to chat us through all of the things
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  Speaker 2: you need to know if you are a total newbie
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  Speaker 2: on the bike. Cycling has been something that I have
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  Speaker 2: gotten into a lot more over the past couple of years,
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  Speaker 2: logging miles all over the New New York area and beyond.
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  Speaker 2: And when I got into it and we got my
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  Speaker 2: first road bike.
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  Speaker 3: My road bike is a specialized rube.
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  Speaker 2: I yeah, I didn't know a lot at all, and
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  Speaker 2: everything from safety tips and recommendations for a better bike setup,
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  Speaker 2: She's super straightforward and she's also super compassionate. She has
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  Speaker 2: gone through plenty of hurdles in her life, including a
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  Speaker 2: traumatic brain injury which we talk about in today's episode.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting down with Alison Tetric. She is a pro
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  Speaker 2: cyclist and just the woman I need to bring you
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  Speaker 2: so much good info about all things cycling.
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  Speaker 3: How are you doing today, Al, I'm doing great.
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  Speaker 4: It's uh in the morning here still.
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  Speaker 1: I live Minsonoma County, which is some really good cycling area,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a little foggy, so I'm a I'm a
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  Speaker 1: warm weather rider.
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  Speaker 4: It's solar powered, it's waiting, waiting for the sun.
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  Speaker 3: Solar powered. I love that. How long have you been cycling?
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  Speaker 4: So I've raced.
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  Speaker 1: At the you know, UCI World Tour level, think you know,
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  Speaker 1: Tour de France for about ten years, and I joined
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  Speaker 1: Specialized about four years ago and found all things gravel
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  Speaker 1: and got a little more gravel in my travel and
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  Speaker 1: race for them. So we're going, you know, twelve thirteen
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  Speaker 1: years strong. I played NCAA tennis, so cycling was not
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  Speaker 1: my first sport. I grew up on a cattle ranch
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  Speaker 1: in California, and just the bike is a great way
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  Speaker 1: to express myself, find free them and explore new places.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, that is why. So I had dabbled in cycling
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  Speaker 2: for a few years now, but last year during COVID,
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  Speaker 2: cycling became like one hundred percent my outlet. You use
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  Speaker 2: the word freedom like it felt like via my bike,
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  Speaker 2: I had the freedom to just like get out of
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  Speaker 2: the bubble and escape the anxiety that was like so
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  Speaker 2: much of the uncontrollable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, bike therapy is a real thing, you know, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's alone and you and your bicycle or you and
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  Speaker 1: your girlfriends, it's a bike therapy is a thing, right.
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  Speaker 2: It's a real thing. So you talked about growing up
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  Speaker 2: and playing different sports. When did you start to think
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  Speaker 2: that being a more avid rider and perhaps taking this
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  Speaker 2: to the pro level could be something in your wheelhouse?
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  Speaker 1: Frankly, I mean, I've just been working on this project
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  Speaker 1: about heroes creating heroes. And I grew up a little rogue,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a little wild West out in this ranch.
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  Speaker 1: It was really remote, and my parents are both athletes.
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  Speaker 1: My mom is really competitive tennis players still but she's
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  Speaker 1: pretty title nine, so you know, you just don't think
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  Speaker 1: about that now. But my dad played football for UCLA,
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  Speaker 1: their high school sweethearts, and just kind of growing up
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  Speaker 1: Annie Oakley style out there with no.
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  Speaker 4: Parameters and rules.
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  Speaker 1: So I didn't know, like girls do this and boys
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  Speaker 1: do that, and you know, and then I just picked
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  Speaker 1: up a tennis racket because my mom was and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's following athletes like Serena Williams, who's you know, a
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  Speaker 1: little older than me but still kind of you know,
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  Speaker 1: just breaking through those barriers. And then you know, here
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  Speaker 1: I am, and I'm a professional athlete and Serena's still
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  Speaker 1: like kicking ass and taking names. Like it's amazing to see,
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  Speaker 1: Like how when we can see strong athletes like what happens?
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  Speaker 1: And it was actually my grandfather and he was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: seventy five at the time, and he's elbowing me and
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  Speaker 1: telling me, I should, you know, try bike racing. And
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was like the dorkiest thing, right, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, like those Neon colors which now are in
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  Speaker 1: but at the time we're not, and like the tight
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  Speaker 1: clash and you know, the big glasses, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is door ky, like I like tennis skirts and
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  Speaker 1: getting my nails done. And he just kept telling me,
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  Speaker 1: and he steered me towards the bike, and I hopped
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  Speaker 1: on a bike and within three months, I'm racing for
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  Speaker 1: the USA national team in Europe. I've podium at the
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  Speaker 1: World Championships and you know, three time gravel World Championships
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  Speaker 1: and all this stuff now and I think it's just
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  Speaker 1: literally knowing that those barriers and gender stereotypes and societal
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  Speaker 1: constructs that don't exist sometimes like if we just keep
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  Speaker 1: flowing through and I fell in love with I think
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  Speaker 1: it's just mainly expressing myself on the bike, Like you
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  Speaker 1: were talking about anxiety, and you can have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of energy, as you can tell, and it's like funneling that.
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  Speaker 1: And it was competitive, yes, but I think it was
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  Speaker 1: just really a great experiment and like how far I
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  Speaker 1: could challenge myself, push myself just to be better at something.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely think there's no denying that you must have
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  Speaker 2: had like a certain amount of natural talent, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you don't just hop in a bike and four months
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  Speaker 2: later see the kind of success that you did because
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  Speaker 2: you not that you weren't working hard, but you had
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  Speaker 2: to start with some sort of a baseline here, especially
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  Speaker 2: as a legacy athlete.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I think you know, there was some gift to it,
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think that should be disappointing or you know,
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  Speaker 1: too challenging for people like you don't have to always
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  Speaker 1: be naturally gifted at something. And I was reaching some
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  Speaker 1: pitfalls in the first part of my career with some
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  Speaker 1: injuries and I survived to traumatic brain injury, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: just trying to come back and you know, everyone's telling
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  Speaker 1: me what I should do and how I should perform.
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  Speaker 4: And I was really struggling.
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  Speaker 1: And it was talking to Connie Carpenter, who is the
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  Speaker 1: Olympic gold medalist in cycling from nineteen eighty four and
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four is the first year with women were
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  Speaker 1: allowed to race bikes in the Olympics.
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  Speaker 4: How is that possible?
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  Speaker 1: And I am just struggling because you know, with the
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  Speaker 1: pressure we put on ourselves, the pressure we experienced from
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  Speaker 1: others and exceeding expectations.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm going, I don't know if I can do this.
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  Speaker 1: And I was really down, and she said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you get to wake up every morning and just try
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  Speaker 1: to be better at something like how blessed is that?
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  Speaker 4: You know, like you got to just wake up every
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  Speaker 4: morning and try to be better. And so, yes, there's gifts.
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  Speaker 1: And athletic prowess and all of that, but also for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a challenge and what I can do for myself,
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't want to compare myself to others, Like
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  Speaker 1: I want to just do the best I can.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that to me is my love of sport.
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  Speaker 2: The traumatic brain injury caused from a cycling accident or
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  Speaker 2: not caused from a cycling accident, yep.
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  Speaker 1: Traumatic brain injury was in a professional bike race and
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  Speaker 1: life flighted out seizures. And the problem with that is
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  Speaker 1: I came back too soon. You know, this is a
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  Speaker 1: little pre an NFL making concussions like a very prominent discussion,
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  Speaker 1: which is great now, but I had a broken pelvis too,
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  Speaker 1: I can't walk.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of other issues where you
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  Speaker 4: just don't.
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  Speaker 1: Realize that you should be looking at your mental health,
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  Speaker 1: health of your brain, you know, all of that. So
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  Speaker 1: I came back and arguably it was probably one of
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  Speaker 1: my factus years of my career most successful. It was
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  Speaker 1: also one of my most unhappy, like horrible years. And
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't realize that I couldn't read, I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: go mentally functioning and all that. And then I crashed
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  Speaker 1: again at the Pan American Games and just kind of
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  Speaker 1: fluky thing concussion on top of the TBI within eight
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  Speaker 1: months and then it was just lights out where that's
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  Speaker 1: when you're like, I'm not okay, and it's actually we'll
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  Speaker 1: bring it back to the start of our conversation as
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting in my childhood bed because I can't drive,
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  Speaker 1: I can't function, so I like go back to the
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  Speaker 1: ranch with my parents, right and I'm sitting there and
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  Speaker 1: I remember just staring at that poster Srita Williams still.
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  Speaker 4: On my wall, you know, going to like how am
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  Speaker 4: I back here?
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  Speaker 1: At the time, it was such a low moment where
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't think, like, what was the blessing? You know,
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  Speaker 1: people like, oh, there's a light at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the tunnel. You know, everyone says all those things like
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  Speaker 1: think about the positive. Remember being so angry, being like
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  Speaker 1: there was actually nothing positive about this. Ten years later,
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  Speaker 1: I go, oh no, And when you're that low, the
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  Speaker 1: only way you can go is up. And that's the
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  Speaker 1: only positive I can find now. Still, but it made
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  Speaker 1: me address my mental health. I raced on antidepressants for
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  Speaker 1: a year and then I realized, through you know, therapy
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  Speaker 1: and working on myself that I choose my health over results.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where we go into don't compare yourself to others,
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  Speaker 1: like meet yourself where you're at. Your presence is your power,
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  Speaker 1: you know, things like that, and I firmly believe.
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  Speaker 3: That now, Alison, thanks so much for sharing all of that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that this is a hot topic
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  Speaker 2: right now in the scheme of professional athleticism and athletes
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  Speaker 2: speaking out about their mental health. Right Like you were
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  Speaker 2: saying you were at the top of your game, but
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  Speaker 2: the lowest that you had felt mentally, And it's just
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  Speaker 2: so important hearing your new stance and all of these
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  Speaker 2: takeaways and clearly to an extent, like they're almost a
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  Speaker 2: mantra for you right now, like you just spewed them
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  Speaker 2: out like one after the one after the one after
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  Speaker 2: the next, you know, like you are so dialed in
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  Speaker 2: on what's important. Like, yes, we're made to feel like
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  Speaker 2: our value in our worth comes with how we associate, right,
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  Speaker 2: so if you're associating as a cyclist and you're performing
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  Speaker 2: well as a cyclist, then everything must be great.
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  Speaker 3: But that's not really how it is at the end
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  Speaker 3: of the day.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's it's not. And I think that's the biggest
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  Speaker 1: you know, look at the Olympics. You know, these takeaways
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  Speaker 1: we get from these incredible athletes that you know, athletes
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  Speaker 1: aren't robots, but you don't even have to be a
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  Speaker 1: professional athlete to not be a robot. None of us
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  Speaker 1: are right, you know, And it's about it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just really honing in on where you are in that
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  Speaker 1: moment and what you can do with your your power.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes that's saying no and you know, getting rid
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  Speaker 1: of toxic relationships, not putting expectations on yourself.
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  Speaker 4: And other times it's.
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  Speaker 1: Challenging and going for the metal or you know, finishing
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  Speaker 1: your first marathon or something, you know, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that's super cool. And I learned, I mean to take
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  Speaker 1: some therapy, but it was identify myself as just an
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  Speaker 1: athlete and I'm not. I'm you know, cowgirl, I'm a daughter,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a biochemist, I'm an entrepreneur. You know, I'm a founder,
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  Speaker 1: I'm all these things. Once I didn't just identify myself
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  Speaker 1: as an athlete as a cyclist, I actually performed better.
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  Speaker 1: I was happier. And then finding that life balance was
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  Speaker 1: really key. So that's something I always talk to people
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  Speaker 1: that maybe they want to pursue a professional career in
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  Speaker 1: sports or just in life too. Right, we have a
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  Speaker 1: hard time sometimes balancing that. And I realized I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to miss baby showers anymore, and you know, weddings
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  Speaker 1: and unfortunately funerals, right like you you want to find.
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  Speaker 4: That life balance where you're not as sterile.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a saying like happy athletes go faster, you
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  Speaker 1: know type thing, and I think that's true what you.
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  Speaker 2: Pointed out about finding your sense of self worth and
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  Speaker 2: understanding that you are so many things that can carry
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  Speaker 2: you beyond just these instances of injury. When it comes
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  Speaker 2: to identifying your purpose and your why, it will also
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  Speaker 2: help you thrive and like all the other relationships that
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  Speaker 2: go hand in hand with all the other ways that
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  Speaker 2: you identify.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, and it's just about yeah, purpose of your why,
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  Speaker 1: which we'll get into. Put that as one of my
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  Speaker 1: talking points for later, is you know, remembering your why
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  Speaker 1: and then also knowing that that's totally fluid sometimes, like
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  Speaker 1: it's okay to change your mind, like you're fixated on
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  Speaker 1: a century and the weather looks bad, or you know
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  Speaker 1: your family life is in chaos, like maybe just toges
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  Speaker 1: your why for a second and that's okay too, right.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's really important.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely definitely.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, wow, your story is incredible and I'm
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  Speaker 2: so grateful to have you here, not only to touch
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  Speaker 2: on that, but then also to dive into what we're
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  Speaker 2: really here to talk about today, which is talking about
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  Speaker 2: best practice tips for new cyclists. So you have a
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  Speaker 2: ton of experience under your belt before we really get
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  Speaker 2: into the nitty gritty.
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  Speaker 3: If you reflect right now about your.
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  Speaker 2: Initial days cycling, before you realize maybe just how obscenely
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  Speaker 2: talented you were, is there anything that you wish someone
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  Speaker 2: told you right off the bat that you know now?
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, So I now biker shorts, like is a
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  Speaker 1: thing which is really funny to me, right, like you
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  Speaker 1: could buy in it. I don't know, like this is
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  Speaker 1: what they're wearing, right, but not like actually cycling shorts is.
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  Speaker 1: They're called biker shorts, which I think is funny. I
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  Speaker 1: always thought they were a little long. So I I
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  Speaker 1: got some cycling shorts. I bought them at you know,
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  Speaker 1: Big five or something, and I rolled them up because
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  Speaker 1: I was used to tennis and I wanted I was
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  Speaker 1: worried about panlines. And now looking at those photos, I'm
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  Speaker 1: like wearing like a sports fra rolled up shorts, rolled
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  Speaker 1: down short socks.
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  Speaker 4: Totally fun.
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  Speaker 1: But now I'm thinking about the sun damage on my back, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, why was I riding around for hours on
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  Speaker 1: end getting sunburned, and my first bike race, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: one of the rules for USA Cycling, you know, our
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  Speaker 1: governing body. So if you want to go to a
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: bike race, like one of the rules different different to
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: triathlon is you have to have a jersey with sleep
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: But I didn't own one. And I was visiting my
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: grandparents in Colorado, and so I wore one of my
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Grampy's jerseys and I put it on, I zip it up,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: and I get to the start line. And so pedals
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: are a thing we'll talk about, but you clip into
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: your pedals where you have to just you know, move
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: your ankle to unclip from it. And I was really
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable with the fact of being clipped into my bike,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: so I didn't know how to clip in. I was
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: terrified to clip out because I just would spontaneously fall
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: over it, you know, traffic lights and things. So I'm
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: at the start line in my first race wearing my
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: like grampees, like Colorado State champion, my ship jersey, and
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm just going, Okay, Alison, you're
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: gonna clip in, You're gonna put your pedal your foot
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: down and you're going to clip it and then you're
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: gonna pedal, and I'm like, what if I fall over?
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: And like Domino, all these women like what's going to happen?
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm getting I'm like so nervous and I'm so
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: ready to race. And then the you know, referee or
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever commis there, says and he points at
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: me and he's like, her number is on backwards. So
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: like also, like, you pin your number and it should
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: read a certain way, but I pinned it where I
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: could see it, but then when you're on your bike,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: it's the wrong way. And so there's my my grandparents
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: coming like, oh, we'll get it, and I'm, you know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty five years old, like have my
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: grandma like be fixing my number?
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: And everyone in the start line is just like, oh god,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: she's never done this before.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: And then sure enough the race goes and I can't
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: clip in, and I'm like stamping my foot down. I
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: don't want to fall, and the race is gone, and
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I look up at my grandpa and he's like.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Just go like, but I can't clip in. He's like
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. But it was a good experience.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: It was a good experience. It was a good experience,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and it was your first experience. And I think an
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: important thing that we need to say as we go
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: on in this conversation is don't judge that start too harshly, right, Like,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: it's a start for a reason. The fact that you're
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: willing to put yourself out there and try something new,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: whether it's cycling or you know, it could be anything.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: That's a really exciting moment for you to be a
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: beginner because you only get to be a beginner once
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: and reflect on these stories and hopefully look back and
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: like laugh a fair amount. So, Okay, we learned clipping
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: in can be tough.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't fall over, but yeah, that can be really tough.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: And I agree, Like.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm jealous, like I've done in this sport long
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: enough now where I'm like, oh wow, I'm a.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Veteran, and.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I'm sometimes jealous of beginners, you know, when you have
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that fire in your belly and no sense of failure yet,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: And I'm always like, oh, man, she's a fighter and
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: she's never failed, Like she's never been life lighted out
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: of a canyon, she's never followed her at the grocery
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: store she's never like, oh wow, and you missed that part, right,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: You're that innocence of just starting and going as hard
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: as you can and not knowing your limits because unfortunately,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I've you know, met some of my limits in my career.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So and then it goes to start lines too, and
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I think that's an important topic. Is sometimes I think
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: we glorify finish lines too much. You know, how did
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you do? Like what was your place versus were you
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: brave enough.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: To just start?
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: You know, like I think that's like super impressive to me,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: is like people picking a goal and starting, like isn't
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: that like? And maybe sometimes you can't finish and that's
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: okay too, But we always try and glorifying the start
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: lines because those are really hard, you know, like you're
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: putting your neck on the one.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, what a beautiful takeaway. I love that start.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Glorifying the start lines is going to be the new
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the new catchphrase for the.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Start lines, like isn't it great?
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Like we all like because at that point you're all together, right,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: there's no finish yet, you know, you're all just embarking
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: on this thing like a challenge or I don't want
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: to say journey that sounds awful arm, but you know
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you're starting on this and everyone has different expectations and
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I think those are really beautiful to celebrate.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: So Okay, we talked about your clothing mishaps, so maybe
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: let's kick start this there as well, talking about what
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: we need to know about gear when it comes to
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: wanting to become more regular cyclist.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Bibs are a cycling must have. And I know bibs
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: are kind of weird. So for those that don't know
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: or do no, like, there's shorts and then there's bibs
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and bibs. To me, they have I calm suspenders and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I know that's not the appropriate thing, but they they
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: kind of pull up over your shoulders and cycling shorts
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and bibs have padding on your but you know, for
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: more comfort and a good set of bibs. They are expensive,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: but they're really worth it. And then women sometimes go
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: a lit bibs. I do the shorts. I don't know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go real on this is muffin top is
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: a thing.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: The shorts like cut in your stomach and bibs like
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: it's a smooth transition because there's no like cinch around
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: your waist, so it's nice when you lean over. You know,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: everything's like compressed. It's very comfortable for heat and sweat
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: as well as I think esthetically it looks good and
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: then you get worried about having to pee because you know,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the shorts are easier just to pull down. But I
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: race for specialized but they have like I call it
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: free to pee, and I know it's not called that,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: but it has a little magnetic thing in the back
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: where you can just kind of drop tail and you're
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: able to go to the bathroom without completely disrobing, which
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: is nice. But comfort on the bike is big. If
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: you're not comfortable, you don't enjoy riding. And I think
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that's like a big thing because I think some women
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and men, you know, you start riding and you're not comfortable,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and then you're kind of like, hey, this sport might
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: not be for me. But you know, if you can
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: dial in the comfort factor, which I have a few
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: other tips on, I think that's a really cool thing.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I actually love suspenders free short, but I agree with
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: you that I do think that this silhouette can be
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: like just like that, like extra, Like I want to say,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: like skims level of flattering when you go with like
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the suspenders style. So to each their own. I also
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: love a cycling short that has cargo pockets. That's like
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: my like goldilocks. Find that it's not always easy to
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: find that like perfect pocketed bibs, but I will in
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: the show notes to this episode, I'll throw a couple
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: of links into my favorite styles.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: You also mentioned comfort being key.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: What other tips do you have about being more comfortable
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: on the bike as a newbie.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so every body's different, So my bike fit isn't
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: going to look like your bike fit. And that's why
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: going to a professional that has seen a lot of
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: athletes and has experience in that space will be really
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: beneficial because, let's be real, pressure points on a bike
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: are pretty key. So you got undercarriage pressure, hands, feet,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: and so how you set yourself up on that bike
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: will really dictate how much you enjoy writing it.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I love the phrase undercarriage like such a like politically
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: correct nice way to be.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Like your ass is going to kill you if you
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: don't take care of it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you don't want to like experience birth control
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: via the bike.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Right, definitely definitely not okay? So a couple of things
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: to be mindful of when it comes to comfort. We
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: talked about your gear and your setup. We also talked
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: about your bike fit. Something else that I think is
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: really important, which you had referenced in your first race
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: as being a faux pas, is having good socks.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Why are socks important?
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I love the socks for I think the compression actually helps.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I don't wear long compression socks, but I wear like
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: a mid calf length. And then you're sweating a lot.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: If you think about it, it's it's similar to running.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: But if there's a lot of sweat, a good pair
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: of shoes works well.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Carbon soles.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: You're really connected to the bike, So a good pair
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: of socks mixed with a good pair of shoes, like
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's just about that connection to the bike.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: And then you don't want swamp foot, right, so you
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: just want like a cycling socks are thinner than you think,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and I think buying a good pair of socks with
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: paired with the shoes and the petals, it really makes
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: sense for that feel. And one tip that might seem
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: awkward to people, back to the bibs real quick. I
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: use shammy butter, but it's a shammy cream and it's
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: weird because it's just kind of an anti chafing caream.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: You put back to that undercarriage thing and that really helps,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: like you know, lubricate things are moving around and you're
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: not chafing when you do those, you know, whether it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: just spin class around the road.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: And something else to point out here, which I it
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: took me like months of cycling before someone told me
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: this that you're not supposed to wear underwear with your bibs.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Oh, I forgot to bring that up. Correct, do not
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: wear underwear? You have the diaper.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I call it a diaper sy I'm not making this
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: sound very glamorous, but you got the pad and I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: always just like kind of feel like you're wearing a diaper.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: So I don't do underwear.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: And then this might be TMI, but if you're on
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: your period or menstruating, I actually just tend to not
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: put anything in because that could also cause uncomfort and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: so you just wash your clothes. I don't know if
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: that might be too much.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: That's what I do.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I mean to use their own right. Do we know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: like why we're not supposed to be wearing underwear with
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: cycling bibs.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Cycling bibs are designed kind of with the built in underwear,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: with the paddy the contours to deal with everything that's
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: going on whether you're male or female down there. And
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: if you do underwear, what happens is you're just causing
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: like you're taking away what the bib or the show
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: what was designed for and you're adding more like clothing folds,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and that can cause that chaping, rubbing, little raw spots.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: So I think it's just letting the clothing do what
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: it was designed to do.
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• 28:03
  Speaker 3: So now we may have blown your mind.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: If you're listening to this, do not wear underwear with
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: your cycling bibs.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: We talked about comfort.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: What else is something that new cyclist should be paying
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: attention to?
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: The one thing I think is just like bit like
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: safety checks, like make sure your bike is working properly,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: whether you're making friends with the mechanic at your local
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: bike shop or hiring somebody you know. There's mobile services.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: It could be a partner, a friend, but we're traveling
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: on these bicycles that you know, relatively high speeds and things.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Can go wrong.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: It's held together by bolts, and it's carbon fiber most likely,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: And so making sure your bike is properly set up,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: functioning and safe once again more enjoyable and a better experience.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: And you brought you brought up a buzz phrase here
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: which we should tap into real quick, which is saying
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: that most likely your bike is carbon fibers. So there
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: are going to be different types of bikes that you
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: can get, especially as a beginner. The first thing that
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I will say is, of course they come at all
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: different price points, in a wide variety, with a wide
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: variety of options. But generally speaking, you know, a bike
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: that might be smoother for you to ride is certainly
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: going to start to get up there in price as well.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think the sport as a whole certainly
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: has like a steep entry point when it comes to
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: cost associated with it. So for newbies that are trying
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: to perhaps select their first bike, what would you say
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: to them in terms of things to look for, what
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: to keep in mind?
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it depends what your purpose of
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the bike is whether you want a hybrid bike, you know,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: mountain bike to road bike kind of hybrid, more comfortable
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: fit traditional road bike, you know, think the little skinny
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: tires and drop bars. I ride a lot of gravel,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: which I think gives me some flexibility to ride wider tires,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: so I feel safer. I can take it off road,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I can take it on road not lose any sort
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of kind of speed feeling. But then I feel safer
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: with you know, potholes and manhole covers, you know, because
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I have wider tires. So I think what you're looking
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: for is it's what's your purpose, Like what's your goal?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: You know, do you want to compete in a triathlon?
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Do you want to do a century? Just commute to work?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a bike for everything. And then when
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: you look across the brand, just know what kind of
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: price point you want, and you know it's there's a
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: there's a right bike for you and to not be
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: intimidated by it. But the you know, the barrier to
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: entry is quite high, but it's worth it because once
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you have it, it's a great investment and it lasts
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: for a really long time. Is we go back to
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: taking care of.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: It, Yeah, for sure. And I love the idea that
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: you articulated. Which is so important is that know what
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: you want to do with your bike, right, Like, there
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: are so many different things and places that you can
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: go on two wheels, whether it is just staying on
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the road or going on gravel, or maybe you want
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: to go mountain biking. So knowing exactly what your purpose is,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: even like a commuting bike, it might be a pick
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: that you're also going to be riding road with that's
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: a very different bike than what you might choose if
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: you want to be like getting a lot of fitness
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: and going out on long road rides and stuff like that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: So all these super important questions to ask yourself, and
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: don't be afraid, I would say to like go into
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: your local bike shop and articulate all of these to
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: them because this is what the people that work there.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: They hear these things all the time, and they're going
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: to have the intel and then know how to help
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: you choose the right bike that's going to be right
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I mean I think as far as like for women too,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's intimidating to walk into a shop, which you know,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's a bunch of dudes working at and you
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: know you're asking about wearing underwear with your shorts or
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: not right, And the same thing goes to when you're
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: finding a bike, like don't be afraid just to say
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: what you want. And then also that's where the bike fit.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Make sure you're buying the right bike that's the right
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: size for you, and not because there's a flash sale
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: you got to buy this bike that make you too
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: big or too small for you. So making sure it
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: serves your purpose, and kind of going back to what
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: you want out of the bike, and then knowing you
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: can always get to know.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Something else I'd love to touch on with you is
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: talking about nutrition on the bike. It's an interesting subject,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: right because whereas with running they say that you don't
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: really need to really think about fluids. If you're running
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: for under i'd say like forty five or sixty minutes
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: on the bike, that changes like real fast. So talk
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: to me about, you know, some of the things that
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: you've learned about fueling on the bike, and maybe some
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: of the advice that you'd offer to the hurdlers.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Yep, so I'm sorry, apparently I'm on a mantra phase today,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: but something I say when I'm on my bike is
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: eat and drink early and often, and or you can
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: that works for you, eat and drink early and often,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: or sip sip, nibble nibble, which I just have a
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: rule for myself, Like I have a lot of apparently
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: mantras and rules, but you know, every time I get
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: on my bike, I have a purpose, you know, whether
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it's learning how to ride in a straight line, cornery better,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you know, having therapy, you know, Like I always have
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: a purpose, kind of like you do in yoga, which
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: is super weird because I don't do yoga at all.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: So when it comes to nutrition, I have a rule
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that's one bottle an hour and then eat and drink
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: early and often. And once you push past that hour barrier,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: if you haven't fueled appropriately, you're really going to start
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: paying the price. So, depending on your body size and
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: your intensity level, eating and drinking early and often is
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: always good. I personally usually have a goal about two
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: d and fifty calories an hour, so I can put that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: in my bottle. In the form of electrolyte, I use goog.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: You know, there's lots of options out there on the market,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: and you can also eat a snack, bar, a gel
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: depending on your intensity.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: But I used to when I first.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Started, like hav an alarm on my little bite computer
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: to like remind me to drink because like, you know,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: you start and everyone feels like world champion, right and
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: you start, you're at the race, you write your friends,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you forget, you're like I guess talking or going hard.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: And then like later you get two hours in, you're
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: you're dehydrated, and you're you burn through some most of
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: your GLC engine stores. So it's it's about just keeping
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: that consistent blood sugar and however you do that, whether
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: it's in your bottle and a snack or or whatever.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: So funny, right, because everyone has like a feeling strategy
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: that works for them. I feel like on the bike,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I get thirsty like pretty quickly, and they always say, like,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: when you're thirsty, that's like a big sign obviously that
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: you need to take in liquids. But for me, I'm
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: totally with you on the co signing like early often
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of like taking a bike ride
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: to somewhere where it's like there's a strategic treat insight.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: So if you like give me a donut, twenty five
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: miles in. I'm like, yes, actually, I would love to
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: I am totally a treat based athlete of destination right ba.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm gonna maybe I'm gonna have to
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: change my Instagram bio treat based athlete.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm like donut, oysters, san fere like a beer
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: or you know. Oh, I live in Sonoma County. I
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: mean there's really cool places to go ride my bike.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I mean amazing. Yeah, I'm like, find me a donut.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: You're like, I'll take a half dozen oysters and maybe
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: like a glass of wine and then we'll wait like
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: thirty minutes and we'll get back.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: On the bike.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done that.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I support it.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a big fan of the mid ride
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: beer as well, which I'm carbs, Carbs. I'm not advocating
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: for drinking and cycling. I'm just saying, like a halfler
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: full beer isn't going to you'll be okay, I promise you.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: I promise you do not take this as medical advice.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Let me make sure that. Yeah. But okay, So we
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: talked about nutrition fuel early. If you'll often find the
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: stuff that works for you in my bottles, I usually
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: keep one bottle of just water and the other bottle.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of Element they are a sponsor
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: of the show. But I love a salty sip.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: It's like exactly what I want when I'm out there
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: and it's hot and I'm dripping and all the things.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Do you have any go to? What fuel do you use?
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I am sponsored by Doo Energy Labs, so I use
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: their electrolyte and gels, and then I raise some really
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: long events.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Gravel racer now, so my events can be you know,
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: ten twelve hours. So I start like I do when the.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Intensity is high, I go for the you know gels,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the you know, choose, you know, think about all that,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: like kind of straight cards, straight sugar.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: And then as the race leaves, you know.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: And goes into the four, six, seven, eight hours, I
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: start getting hungry. So I make snacks or I do
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: have pizza in my feed zones or sandwiches. I make
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: this little sandwich called it a little stinky. Yeah, it's
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: a Hawaiian sweet roll, some butter, some cheese, salamie and
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: a pickle. Love that and it's like it's savory. I'm
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: a savory person. So after my I call it like
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: race cut. You know you've had all the sweets and
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: you just start wanting. So you said you'll have the
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: salty stiff like one hundred percent agree, And I start
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: craving a little more complex food. Also, your intensity after
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: that duration isn't full like we call it full gas
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: like it's not.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: You know, you're you're starting to kind of find your groove.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: You probably by yourself. You start getting kind of hungry.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: So I think a little more protein helps me on that. Yeah.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: And then the other key though to that too is
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: like I use a camelback Chase beest for when I'm
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: not on the road, when I'm on off.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Road, which is a hydration pack like when you're scared
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and it's technical if you're off road or you know
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you're going to have a rock. So like I just
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: have a little straw and that helps me do the
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: zipsip nibble nibble thing.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: The sip sip nibble nibble, the sip sip nibble nibble patent.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: That Yeah, Nutrition gear, finding the right bike fit. Safety.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: We touched on that buzzword before, so let's give that
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: a little bit more love at the moment.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Uh, certainly, I.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Would say at all times, but especially for new riders
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: as you start to get your footing and get more
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: comfortable on your bike, it's a really great tip to
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: get out there with a friend or a companion that
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: you could share the ride with.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Not only because if you happen to get a flat tire.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Or something, that there's someone to share in that experience
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: with you and hopefully help you get back on your feet,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: but also because you want to make sure that if
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: something were to happen, like a crash, that you have
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: backup in someone to give you a hand. And plus,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: like not to downplay the importance of like having some
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: one to be with in case you get a little
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: bit lost.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, training partners are key, you know, we're talking the
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: CM Solar Power treat base and also social based in
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: the sport. You know, somebody to get you out the
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: door is nice too. It's eight thirty ety to lead
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: by thirty, but you're like on Instagram. Training partners help
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: with that safety once again too. We'll talk always where
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: your helmet. My helmet has an Angie sensor in there
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: that if I do ash and you know that impact
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and then go to an emergency contact, which is my
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: partner and my phone, which is super cool for the
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: safety and then also sometimes like it's it's just really
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: nice to be with people, but also if you get
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: lost or if something happens. And I have hitchhiked only
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a couple of times because usually I don't train alone
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: that often.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: I like to have people around.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that your helmet has that technology, and
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: it a lot of other like popular either wearables like
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Garmin or I know like by computers will also have
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: features that you can set up where if you were
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: to experience to crash, than someone like your emergency contact
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: will also get a notification. So super super important to
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: do this kind of recon before you get out there,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: just so that you can put yourself in the best
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: possible position. Not that we want anything to happen to you,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: but should something happen to you, that you will be
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: in contact asap with the people that know that something's up.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Something else that I think is important for us to
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: touch on as well. Building up your stamina. Right like,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: as you're a new writer, I can feel really intimidating.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: You see people maybe on your strawva or whatever you're
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: looking at, that are doing these fifty one hundred mile
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: bike rides.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: And you're like, I'm never going to be able to
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: do anything like that.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Again, we said earlier in this episode, like, don't judge
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: your beginnings too harshly. What would you say to this
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: athlete as they're starting out on getting more comfortable in
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: the bike and slowly building up that mileage.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's what we also touched in on the
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: beginning was finding your why, and I think that's really
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: important because when you had your goal and it's your
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: goal and not somebody else's goal, then you're going to
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: be more inspired to chase and pursue that goal.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: And so it's it's.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: About taking the steps forward, progress, taking care of yourself
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and building that stamina. And it doesn't happen overnight. But
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: if the goal kind of makes you clutch your teeth
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: and there's a determination and like make your heart flutter,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: it's probably the right goal. But it's about giving yourself
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: that grace as you as you pursue that, and it
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: takes time, and you know, coaches can really help or
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Google is a great guide too. I mean, you know,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: if you don't want to you spot a bike, and
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: if you don't want to buy a coach too.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: I get it, but I need to.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Like for me, it was about finding my why, and
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: sometimes that wasn't what society told me it should be.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Like if you're all your friends are doing a triathlon
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and you don't want to, then you know, pick something else.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: It makes you excited, and.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Then you know having that plan and knowing that I'm
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I'm a biokeevist by trade, and the best thing about
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: endurance sports is that direct relationship to a lot of
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: times the time you put in and your performance. So
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: as you keep just a little bit of time increasingly,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: your stamina is going to keep increasing. Of course there's
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a overtraining dipping over the edge, but you know what
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, like think a nice steady increase where you
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: know anything is possible, and just giving yourself that time
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: and that.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Plan definitely, and something else has totch on you mentioned before,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: like with what you were wearing and wearing a proper
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: cycling jersey instead of just wearing a sports bra. I
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: be mindful that you're going to be out there for
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: a while, likely regardless of what level yet you're at.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: So sunscreen is.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Super super important, especially if you do want to try
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: and I stress the word try to avoid that ever
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: lovely cycling shorts convenient tamline.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I do the fade so when I do train alone, like,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I roll up my shorts a little bit, roll them down,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: so the fade. But I love sunscreen. I put it
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: on like face, obviously my whole body. And luckily, if
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: you get nice cycling kit, it has usually upf fifty.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: Trying to protect you. So they do a good job
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: with that.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: But the tan lines, the sock ones are the worst
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: because I do like those mid calf and then you
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: know you're going to a wedding and you frigin have
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: like you know.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the short sleeve fad, the sock faith, it's everywhere,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: it's everywhere. Okay, before I let you go, anything else
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: that we haven't touched on just yet that you think
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: is important for us to bestow on relatively new cyclists.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think we've covered so much. You
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: make everything so approachable and that's what we all love
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: about you. And taking something the sounds complex, but just
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: to remember, you know, we've been riding bikes since we
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: were kids, and it's it's enjoyable and it should be fun.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: And like I said, if you're riding bikes, you're doing
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: it right. And it could be an e bike, it
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: can be a hybrid, mountain bike, gravel road, you know,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: whatever your goal is for that, and it can be intimidating,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: but you know, like we could just jump in and
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: do these things, and I fine, it's just like riding
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: a bicycle and then not being afraid to ask questions,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: you know, and get the internet is great, your local
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: bike shop. Emily's always obviously like an expert in the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: field here of making things approachable. So I think that's
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: about what you find that exploration and expression through two
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: wheels is such a powerful experience.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're so good to me.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I think what you just said there about not being
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: able to ask questions, it's kind of my mantra and
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: what I've really adopted as I've carried on in this
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: podcast journey. It's I remember before I started podcasting that
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I would listen to this one show in particular where
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: the host asked a lot of the questions that I had,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: and I think so often we get like a little nervous,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: so afraid, right, Like we're a little nervous to admit
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: that we have this question that we think that we're
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: supposed to have the answer to. So when it comes
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: to like my approach with interviewing guests, sometimes I feel
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: like I have to go back to basics so that
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I can get the answers that I would have wanted myself.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: And the same goes of course, as we're talking about
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: here with cycling addressing. You know, don't be afraid to
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: ask for help, helper, go to the bike shop, befriend them,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: be cool with them. Like I used to have a
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: guy uptown Rob that like I felt like whenever I
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: was coming through, he like knew that I was coming
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: through with some sort of perhaps super novice, but great
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: question that I needed answering. So reaching out to people
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: like your version of Rob at your bike shop obviously
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: dming someone like Allison, I'm sure she'd be happy to
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: help you with your questions. But finding community in that
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: you don't have to have all the answers right away,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: that's really important, right, like you're not supposed to you're
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: not going to. And again on that note of not
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: judging your beginnings too harshly, like don't judge yourself for
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: not knowing all the answers.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: No, you never.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I mean look at life, like, we never know all
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: the answers, right, And I'm a professionalman doing this a
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: long time, and i still make mistakes, you know, so,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: But I think though it's about yeah, not I think
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: sometimes in sport, and you know, it's about women. I
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: think supporting women too, I mean, and not putting what
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: we do on this pedestal that's unapproachable, like, yeah, we
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: can ride real fast, real hard, We're good at what
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: we do. But I mean, it's just riding bikes, man Like,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: just like you could be a CEO of a company.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: It's just running a company. It's you know, managing good people.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Like there's there's things around this, right.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Like come on, So the moral of the story is
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: talk to friends about riding your bike, have fun riding
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: your bike, and you can literally do whatever the hell
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: you put your mind to.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Any treats, Like that's the best part of riding bikes,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: the treats and the snack stops, right, Like, here's why
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: we ride period.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, al And this was so fun to
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: chat up with you, and we're definitely gonna have to
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: get a ride in the books. Our our mutual friend
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Kelly and I were talking about a possible trip for
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: me out to California, maybe at the end of October,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: so we'll look into that. We'll catch up. How do
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: the hurdlers follow along with you for more inspiration? How
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: do they keep up with you? Give me all the details?
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, perfect, Well, you can follow me on all things
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: the Internet's Instagram's great, it's a lot of cycling and
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know bike adventures. My handle is at am
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: tetric am et ur ic k. And also just look
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: at the links in the bio because my COVID sourdough
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Bread was making bandanas and selling them for scholarships for
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: female identifying athletes to race bikes here for Nika's Norcow
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: High School Cycling League. So we've done five scholarships already
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: and I only have a few bandanas left. One is
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: a total cowgirl, so you'll recognize that, and of internal summer,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and then we were talking about being treat based. The
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: other pattern is a Paisley pattern with everything why I
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: love riding bikes, which, by the way, Emily has a
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: donut on it, pizza, whiskey and lama and flowers because
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: this is like what I love about riding bikes is
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: all the things I get to see and enjoy it.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so we'll definitely plug that in the show notes.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Definitely click on over there, get yourself a bandana, and
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: do some good. I'm over at Kurdle Podcast and at
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Emily a Body Another hurdle conquered.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.