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#177 – Did Girls Just Want to Have Fun age well? (w/ Kelly O'Connell) · Did That Age Well?

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Hi everyone, welcome to another brand new episode of Did That
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Age Well, the podcast where we recap and review movies from the
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I am just delighted to have my friend Kelly O'Connell on the
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pod. Welcome.
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Thank. You Oh my God, it's so nice to
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be here with. You.
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It is so nice to be here with you too.
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I'm psyched to talk about this movie with a new girlfriend.
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Yes, because there's so much to talk.
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About. I know.
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And there's something so delightful about having a new
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friend. Yeah.
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Couldn't agree more. Yeah, we have a lot of ground to
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cover. Oh my God.
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From a friendship stand point, from talking and I think
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starting to talk about this movie is a good foundation for
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us. I agree.
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A friend. This is like this is big for us
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and if nobody watches or listens to this I don't care but please
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do continue listening and watching it.
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I do I. Really think they're gonna like
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it too. Kelly, what's new with you?
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What are you? What's going on?
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You're back from France. I'm back from.
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France. I took myself on a 40th birthday
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trip and I went out in full, as much sparkle and pizzazz as
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possible. I rented A Chateau for 20 of my
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friends and family. So fun and had the most
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wholesome, wonderful, creative, spacious time.
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And now I'm back and I am feeling so creative and it's
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getting poured into my art and my work and it feels really
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good. That makes me so happy.
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Thank you. And I loved the I loved the
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visual art that came out of your trip.
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Yes to France. Felt like I was there looking
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out a window. I love that.
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Yeah, travel is like such an expansive thing for me.
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I mean, talk about just being a different place to train
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perspective and Oh my gosh, I I, I just love how I'm thinking
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right now. I feel so expansive, just like
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being out like in the sunflower fields, but like here in Denver.
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But like in this mind, it's feeling good.
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Oh. My God that's beautiful.
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Everyone take yourself on a trip please if you can.
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And bring some friends. Take your friends.
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And like, I promise. Like it's scary because like, I
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didn't think I could plan a trip like this and my friends didn't
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think they could go on a trip like this and we.
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All were gonna say your friends didn't think you could either.
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Well, yeah, I mean, that's that. Would be true as well.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, I did lose our
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passports. Look like we've got it.
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Like things got real. It wasn't gonna be.
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It wasn't gonna be perfect, certainly.
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Real life it's. Real life, It's life, everyone.
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We're not here to sell you on the idea that you're not gonna
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lose your passport. That is a possibility.
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That is, that is possible. But don't, don't, guys don't
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just need to leave them just to just don't carry them around.
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It's a very simple yeah. You really just put them in the
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safe. That's what they say to do.
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We're living and learning day after day.
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I once dated someone who lost his driver's license and he
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carried his passport with him everywhere as like a form of ID
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and I thought that thing's getting lost.
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That that could end poorly. Yeah, yeah.
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That was just, you know, locally.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So leave your, leave your
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passports at home. No, what's going on with kind
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and funny? Gosh, I'm.
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Three years into being my own boss and running my own branding
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agency and God, it gets better with age, to be honest.
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So cool. I just learned so much through
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experience and having three years under my belt.
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Like, I've just learned so much about kind of my work and where
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I can really help people shine, and that feels really good.
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So cool, yeah. And I have my best friend, my
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Boo as my business partner. And so, like doing that together
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is, is pretty special. Yeah.
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He's he's a real cool guy. He says hi, by the way.
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Oh my God, tell him I said hi too.
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He's coming to my party on. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, we're ready to
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rage. All right, good listeners.
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If you if you haven't heard the party of the century is
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happening, you will it will be probably 2 weeks in the past by
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the time that you hear this. And so if you never hear from us
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again, you know why? You know why?
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OK, so you suggested this movie Girls just want to have fun 1985
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teen dance movie. Tell me why.
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Yeah, well, it all starts around 92, I would say.
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OK, my dad owned a video store. So cool.
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And that meant I had I could watch any and every movie that
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was under PG13 of my dreams. Absolutely, And I did.
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Yeah, you did. I did, and when I got to this
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film, it was a game changer. OK, it was a game changer.
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I saw myself and the character I was.
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I was at Catholic school, so we had a lot of you and Janie,
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yeah, we had a lot of commonality from the start.
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And I was I and still am such a visual learner.
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Yeah. I realized on the rewatch, like
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how much I learned from these characters at that age.
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OK. About your visual aesthetic.
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About like friendship. Yeah.
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Like the characters are like high school age, right?
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And I was probably watching this in my preteens, so I got to kind
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of get this glimpse into a world of like how to create really
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cool friendship. Like, I don't know, I I saw
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myself and these people a lot both then and now.
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Yeah, you know why? Because you're a girls girl.
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I am, I am. And I'm pretty sure it was this
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movie that, like, taught me the basics.
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Yeah. When you what?
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What is it that the little brother tells Janie?
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Like when you when you run into trouble, you got to rally the
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troops or whatever? Yes.
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Yeah. God.
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And you really do. You do.
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And these girls did. And like, the Helen Hunt
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character is just like, so epic. Oh yeah.
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Oh my God. Like she believes in Janie's
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dream before. Like Janie believes it herself.
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And having a friend like that, yeah, is like a special, special
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gift. Totally.
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Yeah. When you when you find a person
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who really likes the one thing that you really like.
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Oh, oh, gosh. And then the rest is time stops,
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Time stops, stops. And she saw her from across the
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classroom and she said you yes, you are going to be my friend.
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It was I love to dance. Oh, oh, it's so good.
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It's so good. That's so good.
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This movie was directed by the same guy who did Back to School,
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which was kind of interesting to me.
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I guess that's kind of AI don't know.
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It's a comedy as well, but I really don't see a lot of
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crossover in these in these films.
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I kind of said what? I haven't seen the other one.
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Back to school. Yeah.
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Is that something that I should dabble in?
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My dad really likes it. So if you are curious about
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like, you know my dad's taste in movies.
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Yeah, well, I'm kind of now that I'm on like in this era too,
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like mid 80s, like I could see a little, I could see more of the
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culture there. Yeah, OK.
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I'll check it out. OK, yeah, check it out, see if
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you like it. And if you don't like it, don't
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blame me. No, I will.
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I will have words with your dad though.
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Oh, I know you will. As you should kick it.
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But overall, when this movie came out critics said it's not
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good and the box office said yeah, it's not that good.
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It was not beloved when it came out, but they ran it on cable.
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So this is like one of those movies that ran on cable so much
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that eventually it just developed a cult following.
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People were just like, well, yeah, I guess we like this
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because we see it all the time. Yeah, yeah.
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I mean that does that plays a. Role.
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It certainly does. But you have to be able to see
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it in order to appreciate it. That's.
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True. And it has to be forced to you
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on cable. Yeah, in many cases, right.
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And I wonder, like, what's the equivalent of that now?
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Is it in like your Netflix recommended or like the top ten
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watch today? Like what is the thing that's
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like getting bad movies in our faces to eventually turn them
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into cult classes? 100% like what's it's the top
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10. Yeah, it's got to be.
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Absolutely. The amount of.
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Garbage. Yeah, I was going to say trash,
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but garbage sounds so much more, so much gentler.
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Yeah, that like, Oh yeah, this has got.
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To be like, yeah, everybody, you're like, everyone's watching
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it. Oh boy.
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But I mean, it's water cooler talk, right Like that.
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That's usually what gets me through.
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If it is bad, it's like, OK, I'll at least like we can, we
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can talk about this with all the other 100 million people that
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have watched it. Exactly.
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And then you have something to, you know, if you eventually do
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find the one thing that you really like, and then you're in
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a classroom and there's another girl who's like, oh, I love this
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thing. And then time stops.
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And then you can be best friends.
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Yeah, we know how this works now.
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We've seen it models and we're like we're ready to implement.
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But we have to go through so many bad shows and movies in
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order to get there. We do.
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Yeah, yeah, it's good. And it's, I feel like it's
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getting harder too. Yeah.
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Totally. Which is wild because it's so
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hard to get anything made. Yeah.
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And then I see the things that are getting made.
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I'm like, how'd they how and why did they do that?
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Oh yes, I asked myself that many a time.
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As creative people, we must constantly be asking the
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question, why not me? But actually, why not?
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You know? Yeah.
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Yeah, like why? Why not?
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Why? Why?
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I mean, that's pretty much what how I started my business.
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Yeah, I mean I asked myself and that's how I became an artist.
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I think like the continued ask, yeah, yeah, why not me is a is a
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big one. Yeah, yeah.
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And you got it. And then I do it.
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Yeah, but then also the the flip side of that coin unfortunately
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is but why them, why'd they get it?
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Yeah, that, that is a that's a slippery slope.
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That's slippery. We don't.
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We don't want to go there. But that's one thing I liked
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about the two best friends in this movie is that they weren't
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competitive with each other. No.
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I mean, they were competitive against like the the little rich
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girl. Of course, yes, of course they
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had to have. They had to have an enemy.
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Yeah, the yeah, the villain and the stakes in this is also kind
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of a highlight of mine. Yeah.
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Just like they are low, the stakes are low.
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The stakes could not be lower. Yeah, the conflict is minor.
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Yeah. The conflict is we don't like
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her because she's rich and she calls her dad daddy and he calls
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her Princess, which I hate. Yes, Yeah, yes.
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And that's kind of the extent of it.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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But this was this was kind of the early stage of Sarah Jessica
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Parker's career. So interesting to see stars
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before they were really who they are now.
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So interesting to see SJP as a Catholic schoolgirl.
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Kind of like meek, shy. She's like, oh, I don't know, I
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guess I just love to dance. Yeah, I, I mean, I, I've been a
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fan of her since this, since watching this and so obviously
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went through the Sex and the City stage and era.
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And I I definitely see like parts of that of her and that
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character. Like there still is this like
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need and want for self-expression that like
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obviously basically a lot of her characters like have totally.
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And I think this I think it's cool to have this as a starting
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point for kind of that as and the self-expression in this case
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is like the dance and the right. Yeah, yeah.
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Totally, and also just like in finding a friend.
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Like it seems as though she's never had friends before.
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Yeah, yeah, military kid move in every every year.
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And yeah, it's, it's so cool that what's Helen Hunt's
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character? 'S name.
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Her name is. I always forget I.
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Know character names are. Tough.
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I know it is tough. Janie and what?
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Lynn, Lynn, Janie and Lynn, yes. Yeah, I don't, I do not remember
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what I was saying that was that would happen.
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You were saying that. OK, so we were talking about how
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she moved all the time. She's never had a best friend.
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Oh yeah. And OK, so I love how it's Len
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who like, like kind of reels her in because I think it's clear
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that she's used to not making many friends.
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So like, the fact that, like, her shock of when, like, Lynn
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talks to her on the bus and like, changes her outfit, like,
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yeah, I think that was the starting point of something
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truly magical. Truly, yeah.
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There is still kind of this question in my head, though,
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where I'm like, why did Lynn latch on to her?
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Was it simply because she said Like, I love to dance like.
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You know, I think I think that that shared dream at that age
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and I think like, from what I'm gathering from the setting, like
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the Catholic school, the choir, like this is so different than
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that, you know, that, you know, private school, it's kind of a
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punk type of thing. Yeah, totally.
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And so maybe that was like not common for Len to see.
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Yeah, She's like, I can make her kind of, you know, kind of a bad
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girl like me. Not even a yeah, but it just
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like a little bit of a yeah. It's like a little bit punk to
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be like I'm skipping class. Right.
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And I think it's so funny, like, Speaking of punk, like the whole
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punk scene of, you know, Oh my God, they're crashing through.
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It's so funny that these are like the Catholic schoolgirl
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pucks. Totally.
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And I think like, that's how I saw myself because I was like, I
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was not a real punk at all. I was the Catholic schoolgirl
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that like followed the rules. So it was so cool to see a
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different way, but also like still kind of wholesome.
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I mean, minus the fact that they really ruined that party and
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like. Yeah, but like, that party
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needed to be ruined. I mean.
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It was, I thought that it was cool how she, like, truly
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orchestrated chaos. Yes.
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And just sort of watched it all burn.
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You know, she's sort of the popster who said I'm just gonna,
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you know, I'm gonna light this grenade, throw it and then walk
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away. Yeah.
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Yeah. Power move.
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A real power. Move.
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I mean, and I guess that's what really, like, changed the
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dynamic with the dude, you know, like he finally was like, Oh
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yeah, this chick has different sides to her.
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Yeah, she's not just your average Catholic.
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School girl. She loves to dance and she'll
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stir it. Up.
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Yeah, totally. If you're trying to like, ruin
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her chances with blackmail and just being rich.
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Yeah. Blame, blame.
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One thing that really kind of rocked me when I was looking up
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a little bit of the background of this movie was that Cyndi
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Lauper was not on board. She was like, hey, actually I
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don't want to appear in this film.
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You can't use my version of the song.
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So they had to buy the original 1979 song and title from the
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songwriter, and then they weren't allowed to, like, make
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any of the changes that Lopper had made to the song, including
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like, several lyrics that were changed and added.
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So that's why it sort of sounds like the the Kirkland brand.
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I was actually shocked. I was shocked.
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I hadn't seen it in so long. So I was expecting the Cyndi
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Lopper version, the opening. And I was like, oh.
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They're like, oh, this is that kind of the off brand this is.
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Kirkland, yeah. But they really, I mean, this is
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the type of movie where you think like, oh, did they reverse
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engineer this? Like, they thought of the title
17:23
of a movie and then made a movie.
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And the answer is yes. Yeah, they really did.
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They were like, oh, well, this song's really popular.
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Let's make a movie Inspired by what?
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Girls just want to have fun. Girls having fun.
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Let's see what we can do with that.
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They did it and they did it. Kelly, were you a dancer ever?
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Did you do any like performance? I dabbled in dance.
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I went through like a performance era, I would say
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probably around the same time, like preteen, yeah.
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So definitely have appreciation for it.
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Always like, loved dancing and watching dancing was big into
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musicals and kind of like big spectacle scenes.
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So seeing this like in a teen film setting, I mean, that was
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new for me because I was used to seeing these like music scenes
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and like these outdated musicals, you know.
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So this was like a new thing for me.
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But yeah, I've I've always had an appreciation for dance.
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And honestly, I think this movie, like I'm saying like
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pretty much built my entire personality on it so.
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I will say for a dance movie, I still feel like there wasn't
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enough dancing. They didn't do really like the
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classic, like we're practicing dance montage until like the
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last 20 minutes of How. Good.
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Is that montage excellent? I know it.
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I know. When you get it though, it's
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like, thank God, it's like. Finally, I'm like, I'm thinking
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we're not going to see people dance again until the tryout.
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You're right, we needed more Dance it.
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Was like, we had dance in the beginning.
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Yeah, we had dance at the end, in the middle.
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Not enough. No.
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And I mean, I feel like it's unfair that I keep comparing
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this movie to Dirty Dancing, but truly, how could you not when
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it's the same formula except not as good as Dirty Dancing?
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Unfortunately, I. Have a horrible secret?
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Oh my God, you haven't seen it. And here's the thing.
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Thank you for saying I. Like I can't like, pretend my
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way out of this. Like, I mean, I've, I've done
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that in the past, yeah, where it doesn't go well.
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So I'm just toning it, think I'm proud of it.
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No, but they've not proud of it. Thank you for saying it before.
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I just kind of went off the rails and was like, you know
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what I mean? And you would have to say yes,
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Molly, I know what you mean. That part.
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Is so good. Yeah, well, let me, I'll tell
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you what. If you like girls just want to
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have fun, OK, You're gonna love Dirty Dancing because it's very
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similar to this but kind of just way better.
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Just way better. Yeah.
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You know, I think I've intentionally saved some
20:03
classics for me to watch. Yeah.
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Like now, Yeah. You know, with a, a different
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brain, like more, more life experience.
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So like maybe? Maybe that's what I'm doing
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tonight. Oh my God, I hope it is.
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That sounds so fun. That would bring me so much joy
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if you watch that tonight. OK, well let let me know what
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you think so I can also let the listeners know.
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Great, OK, great. Oh future me is so excited.
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We're we'll talk about this on Friday.
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We'll talk about this, but basically, like the thing that I
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compare this to in regards to Dirty Dancing is of course,
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there's like there's a girl who's a little bit shy.
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She's sort of a classic, like wealthy good girl.
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And then there's like this bad boy who's like, I'm working
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class and I'm hot and my parents never know where I am.
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Nutbar and the montage, like kind of the classic montage of
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Dirty Dancing is very, very iconic, particularly because of
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the chemistry between the two lead actors who in reality, like
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couldn't stand each other. But but their characters could,
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yeah. And there's even a scene where,
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sorry, now we're talking about Dirty Dancing and you haven't
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seen it, but I'm just so. Excited.
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It's prepping me. I'm ready.
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There's a scene where where Patrick Swayze is sort of like,
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he's behind Jennifer Gray, and he's, like, moving his arm,
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like, down her body, but she's really ticklish.
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And she keeps, like, laughing. And he keeps getting frustrated.
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Yes. And that frustration was, like,
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real. Yeah.
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It was like, that was not acting.
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He was, like, getting really annoyed.
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And so then they just used it. Amazing.
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Yeah, You can't fake that. You just can't fake that kind of
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annoyance. So anyway, but the finally, once
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we get the dance montage, I'm like, OK, yes, we got it.
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Yeah, we finally we did. Yeah.
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One thing I also love is that you cannot get more literal than
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dance TV. Oh yeah.
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That is the name of the show. It's as if this screenwriter was
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like, OK, we're gonna for now. Yeah, Well, I think of a better
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name. This is dance TV.
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And they just said, you know what, Dance TV, we call it DTV.
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I mean, sometimes like the first idea is the best.
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That's true. We don't have to overcomplicate
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everything. No, we don't.
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And especially thinking about the audience of like a 7 or 8
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year old watching it, I appreciated it for sure.
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Like, oh, that's dance TV. That's what you do.
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You dance. This is APG movie.
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We need to make sure that the kids understand.
22:59
I saw, you know, I saw this movie when I was pretty young,
23:02
too. I was in elementary school.
23:03
I was at a sleepover. And I haven't seen it since
23:07
then. This is the first time I had
23:08
watched it in like, 25 years. Yeah.
23:12
How was the experience? Oh, I loved it.
23:14
Yeah, Yeah. Did you remember watching it as
23:19
the the child? I remembered, like I remembered
23:26
that I was like, Oh no, is she gonna win the competition?
23:30
Yes, Yes. Because that is kind of the
23:32
perspective of, you know, a, a child watching.
23:36
A this movie, it was crucial. You're right.
23:38
Yeah. Like we gotta.
23:40
We gotta and watching it as an adult, like I I didn't remember
23:45
a lot. So it's like once they they
23:47
introduced like the public school boys, I was like, well,
23:51
obviously I know where this is going.
23:53
And then when they introduced like the bitchy rich girl, I was
23:57
like, we know where this is going.
23:59
And then the moment that she tells Lynn, oh, my dad is really
24:03
strict, I was like, I know where this is going.
24:05
And it all turned out that way. There's not a ton of.
24:09
Surprises. No, not a lot of surprises.
24:14
Although wait, I think there is lens fashion.
24:18
Oh yeah. I don't know if you watched it
24:22
as obsessively, but like sure. I mean iconic like her and I
24:27
remember actually watching especially like she wears some
24:30
kind of like lizard hat or like. Grasshopper hat.
24:33
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's just like at the
24:35
time it was like something, I mean, I still have never seen
24:38
that in real life. And never seen anything like
24:40
that I think. I like I there were a lot of
24:44
surprises when it came to fashion, so yeah, that kept me
24:48
engaged. Yes, absolutely.
24:50
From scene to scene you say, what am I going to get next?
24:53
Plot wise we knew or was going but we had no idea what the
24:56
fits. What will she be wearing?
24:58
Yeah. Which is really impressive for a
24:59
movie where they spend a lot of their time at school in
25:02
uniforms, You know, for them to keep us guessing all the time.
25:06
Pretty impressive. You know, something that Janie
25:09
says that I think is timeless is anytime that she's in a room
25:13
with any person, whether it's her dentist or her boyfriend or
25:17
whatever, she and she has to ask herself, if we were the last two
25:20
people on earth, would I puke if he kissed me?
25:23
That is so fucking funny. I loved her.
25:27
That was the moment I said I like this girl.
25:29
Oh, yeah, yes. I mean, I, when I heard that
25:34
this time, I remember like, Oh yeah.
25:36
Like, I had no idea what that was at the time.
25:39
Like, I, I wasn't kissing right back then.
25:42
And so watching it now, it's just God, she's a great
25:45
character. Yeah, she really is.
25:47
She really is. Ride or die.
25:49
She's a ride or die. Yeah, we love that about her.
25:54
OK, so let's talk about the character that I think ages the
25:58
worst, and that is that little twerp.
26:00
Yeah. What?
26:01
What is his name? Jeff.
26:05
No, Jeff's the Hot 1. Jeff is, yeah, the friend of
26:09
Jeff. Yeah, Jeff's friend.
26:11
What's Jeff's friend's name? He's like the the guy selling
26:15
swag. We're gonna we're just gonna
26:17
call him Twerp for now, is what I'm gonna call him Drew.
26:20
Is that him Drew? OK, so Drew is kind of the
26:24
quintessential 1980s quote, harmless boy simply because he
26:30
is like a geek. A geek.
26:33
But he is so predatory and gross, slimy.
26:39
Just every time he walked into the room, I went oh.
26:42
This guy, yes, I was yes. One thing I will say which is
26:46
quite obvious about most of the movie, like the characters are
26:51
quite flat in one-dimensional. Certainly his is the worst kind
26:55
of that because it's like, oh God, we have to listen to this
26:58
guy talk again because we know like nothing good is coming out
27:02
of it. No, but it's played as like, oh,
27:06
isn't he just such a funny little?
27:09
Geek like he's supposed to be the like the funny.
27:12
Yeah, he's supposed to be the Comic Relief, like, oh, this
27:14
guy, you know, he's not hot. So he can be, he can be as
27:19
creepy as he wants to women and they'll and they'll reject him
27:22
and it's funny. Yeah, that's that character was
27:26
a real downer. Oh, real downer. 2 thumbs down.
27:30
Two thumbs down. He's always looking.
27:32
He's looking down dresses. He's looking up dresses.
27:36
He is. He is being creepy to everybody.
27:41
Everyone, I, I put myself in my like 7 year old body like
27:46
watching this film and I, I, the, the, the scene where he's
27:52
just so horrible and like objectifies the woman, like she
27:56
reacts like, like horrified, like hits him with the purse.
27:59
And I think about that scene of like, at least like I was taught
28:04
that this behavior is repulsive. Like, you know, even though it
28:08
was reiterated over and over again, like there was some,
28:11
like, no, like, you can't treat women like this.
28:14
Right, like you will eventually be, you will be like punished.
28:18
There will be like consequences for your actions, but the the
28:22
actions and their consequences were both like kind of like,
28:26
well, you know he doesn't mean anything by.
28:28
It the consequences were not in that film like like as they
28:32
should be, which is like arrest this guy, get him off the
28:35
street, but like. Get him out of here.
28:37
Get him out of my sight. Yeah, yeah, 80. 5 That was
28:42
clearly a 1985 situation. Exactly.
28:47
We see this all the time in 80s movies where it's like, well,
28:51
he's on. I mean, we still see it now
28:54
where it's like, if a guy is not that hot, especially if he has,
28:58
like, youthful features, that he's kind of boyish, he can be
29:02
as creepy as possible whenever. It's just like, yeah.
29:07
This guy, you're right, that really does show up in a lot of
29:10
our cinema. And yeah.
29:13
Everyone's just like, oh man, he's just shooting his shot.
29:17
Yeah, no. No, no, no.
29:20
We can do better. We can do a lot better.
29:22
Yeah, I agree. And then there's the part at the
29:26
toward the end of the movie where Janie is basically kind of
29:32
kidnapped by this guy. He's like big tall guy.
29:37
He's like, you're dancing with me now.
29:40
And then. And then it's like her boyfriend
29:44
comes over and is like, no, you're not, she's mine.
29:48
And then the other guy's like, no, she's mine.
29:51
And none of she doesn't have any say in that.
29:56
I mean it's literally, we literally don't even look at the
29:59
camera is not on her. Yes.
30:01
She's not even like really a part of that.
30:04
Yeah, that's that's pretty ironic.
30:08
Yeah. Yeah, she's mine, but like,
30:10
she's not even in the picture, right?
30:12
Yeah. And then it's like we were meant
30:15
to feel satisfied when her boyfriend pushes him in the
30:18
face. And it's like, how funny.
30:21
And so, you know, he saved her, but who's to say that she even
30:27
wanted to dance with him, right, You know?
30:30
That scene was certainly the most problematic of of the film.
30:34
Yeah, that scene did not age well that.
30:37
Scene scene. Better days it has.
30:40
And I'm like, I'm glad to see that we are aging out of that,
30:46
at least in film, because it's been done.
30:49
And it's so boring, right? Like it's so boring.
30:54
I know. I'm so over it.
30:57
Yeah, homosocial relationships are so boring.
31:01
Boring men talking blah blah blah.
31:05
We're over it. This is called Girls Just.
31:07
Wanna Yeah enough of the boys It isn't fun.
31:11
I'm not having fun and there are no girls I know.
31:14
Get out of here. OK, The the other thing that
31:19
really kind of, I don't know, made me cringe was the
31:23
relationship between, what's her name, Natalie, Natalie and her
31:27
dad. As I said before, any OK any
31:33
person who's not a toddler who calls their dad daddy?
31:39
It's not my favorite. Thing.
31:40
It's not my favorite thing and if listener, if you do that, I
31:44
am judging you and I'd like you to stop.
31:45
I'm not like you do you, but like, it's not my favorite
31:49
thing. It's not.
31:50
Yeah. Especially when it comes to like
31:52
watching it and and this I especially.
31:55
Hated it. Yeah, Daddy, No.
32:04
And and he calls her Princess, which is like you just yeah, I
32:11
just hated that. And in the the very end, when
32:16
they're preparing for the audition and Natalie is trying
32:22
to rig the system and there is a scene between her and her dad
32:27
where she's trying to convince him to, you know, basically
32:32
cheat the game. And there's like this gross
32:38
sexual undertone to it from my perspective, where she's like,
32:43
oh, and the worst thing was that they ruined your.
32:47
Beautiful. Hair and she goes up to him with
32:50
like her hand like stroking his hair.
32:53
Who the fuck does that with their dad?
32:56
That that was that gross. Those characters weren't too
33:00
believable. No, they that was pretty gross.
33:03
Yeah. And also I do think it's funny
33:06
when in movies like this when they have their allegedly middle
33:13
class characters who are clearly wealthy.
33:17
Oh yeah. Being like antagonized by
33:21
someone who is like ultra wealthy, as if like the the
33:25
other girls are like, oh, we're just normal girls, you know?
33:29
Yeah, yeah. Oh gosh, yeah.
33:33
I, I did appreciate he did tell her to like, shut up like I did.
33:39
I did kind of appreciate that just 'cause that's what I wanted
33:42
to tell her. Yeah.
33:43
So she he was able to vocalize that.
33:45
I needed somebody else to tell her that I thought that like the
33:48
way that that ended, 'cause he's worse than her.
33:51
He's way worse than her. She's a teenager and he's a
33:54
grown man. It's so acting the same way.
33:56
And the way that he was like, well, you just shut up.
33:58
Yeah, I felt like, oh, geez, I really didn't like that.
34:02
I If that had come out of Janie's mouth, sure, I would say
34:06
I would give her a standing ovation.
34:08
I'd say finally. That's true, but like I think
34:11
he's the only one she would actually listen to.
34:14
Yeah. Like he's actually probably like
34:18
what would get her to shut up, which again, it's like not nice.
34:21
Like no, I don't like, I don't want any dad to say that to
34:24
their daughter, but like, she was annoying.
34:27
Yeah, someone needed to. You know what?
34:29
Someone needed to tell him to shut up.
34:31
Yeah, as well. That's.
34:32
True, there needed to be like one more.
34:35
Another degree maybe? Like the director of the show,
34:39
you know, just to. Like, Oh yeah, together, that
34:41
would have been good, yeah. Maybe it's a deleted scene?
34:45
Oh, I hope so. I sure hope so.
34:48
OK, so Speaking of the director of the show, what were those
34:53
there was at the beginning? What were the pills about?
34:55
Thank you for for let's talk about.
34:57
Let's talk about the pills. When this scene happened, I was
35:00
I I said to Jed, we were watching it together.
35:02
I was like, oh, this is going to be so funny.
35:04
You love this. Like I remember him being a
35:06
funny character. When I rewatch it, I was like,
35:09
oh, it's not funny. Like this could be disturbing.
35:12
Like, I don't know why I thought that was funny as a kid.
35:16
Like probably because you had. No idea what was going on.
35:19
But yeah, that was weird. Like I think it was like anti
35:23
Exide like like heart pill like sure cuz he's so stressed.
35:28
About it's like he it was like some Xanax or.
35:31
Something, it was weird. It was weird.
35:33
But it also kind of gave he was a little bit like he was a
35:37
little bit like wiry. I was like, is it does?
35:41
Is he looking for more uppers one or does he need to relax
35:44
with some doubt? What's he looking for?
35:46
I. Once I watched it on this time
35:48
around, it seemed like it was a stimulant of some kind.
35:53
Yes? Like he was never chill right?
35:56
Like. Never chill.
35:57
So it wasn't working if Yeah, that's what it was supposed to
36:01
do. Which like honestly, for the
36:03
80's, the fact that it was, you know, in in pill.
36:06
Well, they couldn't it's PG movie.
36:08
They couldn't be like and he was doing blow.
36:10
Right, right. You know, no, Yeah, they
36:12
couldn't do that. Couldn't do that.
36:14
It was just, it was like in a prescription bottle because it's
36:19
PG. And they kind, they like kind of
36:20
focus on it. So maybe you think that like
36:22
it'll come up again. It's a very strange little side
36:27
quest. It almost makes me think, like,
36:28
was there a deleted scene later? Like, were we supposed to follow
36:32
up on that? Yeah, like what's the deal?
36:34
I do wonder. I kind of want, like, I wonder
36:37
if he's OK. Probably not.
36:40
He'll give himself a heart attack one way or another.
36:42
Yeah, it's. Stressful dance.
36:44
TV. It's dance.
36:45
I don't know if you heard but it's Dance TV DTV.
36:49
Yeah, DTV time. I mean, I miss monoculture.
36:54
I miss when everyone watches the same thing.
36:57
I mean, I like having options and all of that, but at the same
37:01
time, it's like the water cooler talk.
37:03
Everybody was watching DTV that. Night.
37:06
I know, I know. It's isn't that strange?
37:08
Yes, that is so strange. So much of that world that we're
37:12
watching, I mean, it's a different world where it is, I
37:16
mean, so drastically different from a technology standpoint,
37:19
from just like culture. I mean everything.
37:23
Everything, yeah. The world looks a lot different.
37:26
Yeah. What did you, what did you think
37:30
about the dynamic between the military dad and Janie?
37:36
And like, I guess like her relationship to her parents in
37:39
general, but like, especially with the dad.
37:42
Yeah, it was. It was so depressing.
37:46
Like, it's a big bummer. It seems like such a lonely
37:48
household. Yeah.
37:50
There was like, no love, there's no fun.
37:52
Yeah, I mean, we have like the annoying brother, like I'm
37:55
grateful for his character cuz we needed something in that
37:58
family. But yeah, that relationship with
38:01
the father is a real bummer. And again also so one note.
38:06
Totally. They were like most.
38:07
He's in the military. Yeah, he's a tough.
38:11
There's no dimension to most of the characters.
38:14
Yeah, Especially his. I mean, yeah, He's the strict
38:19
dad that knows best. And I mean, yeah, Yeah.
38:25
And he's like, I just don't understand how he's like so down
38:30
with gymnastics with like, so not into dance.
38:33
Yeah. Was it because she was dancing
38:35
with like a poor guy? Like I was just sort of, I don't
38:38
know. I didn't really understand, like
38:40
what's the deal with Dance I? Think it's, I think it's, I mean
38:46
they alluded to it a little with the Catholic school and like you
38:49
can't talk to boys. It's just that, like, you don't
38:53
talk to boys until you're out of the house.
38:55
Like, that's kind of like military stricts.
38:58
I don't know, like trope again? Yeah, where he's like, you're
39:02
doing what? You're dancing with a boy.
39:04
Yes, because you know, gymnastics famously a a solo
39:08
sport, right? You know.
39:10
Right. So it's true, true.
39:12
Yeah. Yeah, I wonder.
39:15
I think that's a really interesting thing to realize and
39:19
see. Like, obviously she's living a
39:22
pretty lonely life. Yeah.
39:23
And like, dance really is, like, such a thing that shared a lot
39:28
of the time. So gosh, thank God she had
39:31
dance. I know, yeah.
39:33
Yeah, it opened up her life big time.
39:35
And it had to because she was weird.
39:39
Yeah, like, of course she was because she'd never had a friend
39:42
before. But the opening scene when she's
39:46
like, stumbling, trying to like introduce herself, oh God.
39:50
I really resonated with that scene.
39:53
Yeah. Because gosh, I I'm in like a
39:58
lot of new rooms now. Like I'm going to networking
40:01
events and like, sometimes it's like so hard to like understand
40:06
how you introduce yourself. And so her like stumbling and
40:10
like, where do you even start? Like you guys don't know me.
40:12
It's like I resonated with just the like.
40:16
This is a hard thing to do. And Oh yeah, I've stumbled over
40:19
my words so many times and situations like that, which
40:22
like, again, it made me feel like, all right, I'm not alone
40:25
in this. I mean, who?
40:26
Who? Hasn't felt like when someone's
40:28
like, tell us a fun fact about yourself and you're like, I've
40:31
never done anything ever. There's nothing fun or
40:34
interesting about me. I don't know what to say.
40:36
Yes, yes, that is when all of a sudden it's like, yeah,
40:40
everything leaves your brain, nothing exists.
40:43
Totally. You're like, well, what's your
40:44
favorite movie? And you're like, I forget every
40:46
movie I've ever watched. What's a movie?
40:48
Yeah, totally. Can you show me one?
40:50
It's probably that visual clue. Just need a visual clue for this
40:55
one. Yeah.
40:56
Who among us hasn't felt that way?
40:57
Yeah. So yeah, they made her a little
41:00
relatable from the beginning. So I do, I was thinking about
41:06
like when new kids came into school, Yeah.
41:09
And I went to a school, a Catholic school, like one
41:13
through 8th grade. And so I was like with the same
41:16
kids like year after year. So whenever there was a new
41:18
student. Oh boy.
41:19
Oh, I mean, it was like so fun. Like we have fresh blood.
41:23
It was like, are they gonna be cute?
41:25
Like, what's the deal? Like, are they funny friends?
41:28
I mean, so it's, I think thinking about it from Lynn's
41:32
perspective, I'm sure she was like just also just a novelty of
41:36
someone new in a space like that.
41:38
I think that makes a little more sense for their friendship.
41:41
Totally, Yeah. Yeah.
41:42
And I think that also, Lynn, like, probably wasn't connecting
41:46
with some of the other girls at school because she's like, well,
41:49
I like stuff like dance and I like, you know, what does she
41:53
say? I'm into public school, guys.
41:57
Yeah, and like, like when she, like does the reversible
42:03
schoolgirl outfit. I mean, that shook me today.
42:08
It shook me back then. Yeah, like.
42:11
Talk about unexpected. Yeah, yeah.
42:13
Oh gosh. And as someone who loves fashion
42:17
and loves like a DIY approach, Oh yeah, I mean, that holds up.
42:21
Talk about didn't age. Well, that outfit did.
42:24
Absolutely. I can't think of one thing that
42:27
she wore that I was like, no, yeah, every fit.
42:30
I was like, big time, big thumbs up.
42:33
Yeah, for sure, man. It was.
42:36
It had been a long time since I had thought about or heard about
42:40
a debutante ball. Like, is that a thing that
42:44
people still do? Well, honestly, I only know
42:47
about it from shows and movies. Yeah.
42:50
You know, like it's, and it's often in these teen settings.
42:53
You know, we get we have like a Gossip Girl.
42:55
Like it's been I, I only know it as like in like high society in
43:00
film and right. So I don't know, like I've never
43:04
met anybody who was like, yeah, I was a part of it, like.
43:07
I met a couple of people in college so it does exist but I
43:09
don't know if it's like like how common is it?
43:14
I mean. Do teenagers today know what a
43:17
debutante ball is? I can't imagine.
43:20
Can't imagine. I can't imagine.
43:21
Yeah, no, I'm I'll text my niece after and we'll we'll get
43:26
clarity but. But probably not no, because I
43:29
mean, obviously, like it is archaic.
43:32
It's like a meat market for marrying people who are probably
43:36
inbred because they are also in rich society.
43:40
But but I don't know, like is that why it's outdated?
43:45
Or is it because like, it's just?
43:49
Or are we just so far removed from I?
43:53
I saw that the debutante ball scene as kind of like a Sweet
43:57
16, you know, and like it was being like pretty like popular
44:02
and common throughout time and I think still are in probably
44:05
their own way. Yeah.
44:07
I just think maybe it's just been rebrand like from
44:09
debutante. Yeah.
44:11
Like, well, but I guess it was like, so like isolated of all
44:15
just the rich folks, so. Yeah, because like I think that
44:18
in there's like many cultures where they have sort of like a
44:23
teenage rite of passage, like a quinceanera, like a bat mitzvah
44:26
or whatever, but there's something so specific about like
44:31
the debutante. Thing, Yeah, it's so weird.
44:35
It's so weird. It is weird.
44:37
But I yeah, it probably does. It does exist in circles where
44:41
just in. A I when I was a younger kid,
44:47
like elementary school, I was in cotillion, which I guess is
44:51
like, it's kind of like pre pre pre W talk.
44:57
What was it like? Oh, it was stupid.
44:59
Oh gosh, it sounds I liked it because we got to like meet boys
45:03
from other schools because it was like, you know, the one
45:07
chance that we were going to like meet people from outside of
45:11
our regular everyday circle. But I did one thing that's like
45:17
kind of messed up that I think I have never really unlearned is
45:22
that we had a rule that like if a boy, so like the boys would
45:25
ask the girls to dance and you would like do a foxtrot or
45:28
whatever. And the rule was that like if
45:31
someone asked you to dance, you couldn't say no.
45:33
Like you were not allowed to say no if you didn't want to dance
45:35
with somebody. What?
45:37
Yeah, Yikes. Yikes.
45:39
And if someone wanted to like cut in and dance with you, you
45:42
know the way that that creepy guy tried to cut in.
45:45
Yeah, yeah, you were like weren't allowed to say no.
45:48
Oh, that's disturbing. I know that's disturbing.
45:51
Isn't that fucked up that? I'm I don't, I don't like it at
45:55
all. Don't like that?
45:56
I don't like it at all. But I did learn like which side
46:00
of the plate you're supposed to have your bread versus your
46:03
drink. I guess that's.
46:04
So boring. Oh my God, it's.
46:06
I can't believe that you had to learn that lesson and it's like
46:09
something that but I was to unlearn.
46:11
I was in like third grade. Boo.
46:16
We don't like that at all. So how did you, how did that
46:20
come to a close? Like you didn't have a A ball?
46:24
I mean, I think that they, it, it was like only for maybe 3rd
46:29
through 5th graders. And then it was like after 5th
46:32
grade it was like, OK, now you don't do it anymore.
46:36
I think there were. It was just like, that's enough.
46:38
That's funny. Yeah, and I remember that now.
46:40
I remember, like the guy who ran it was like freaking weird.
46:45
Oh. That sucks, yeah.
46:48
But like I said, boys from other schools, right?
46:51
So that was like I, that was a big draw.
46:54
Every week. It was like, we're gonna meet
46:56
boys from other schools and this is gonna rock.
46:59
That's a that's a big marketing selling point back then,
47:03
absolutely I get. It the big one.
47:05
Yeah, God. Too bad you had to learn some
47:07
really shitty lessons while there.
47:10
Yeah, yeah. But thank God I know like what
47:13
different forks mean. I'm I'm happy you know that and.
47:16
Thank you so much for that. Yeah, I don't know.
47:20
I feel like my parents didn't care whether I went or not, OK.
47:25
But I think it's because, like my friends went and, OK, you
47:28
know? Anyway, that was a.
47:31
We needed to know that. We needed to we needed to get
47:33
that up. We.
47:34
Had to. We had to.
47:35
Sorry. So anyway, the Debbie Top ball
47:37
of it all is gross. Yeah, I didn't like that.
47:40
I did not like that. And let's see, one thing that
47:46
really placed me in the 80s too, was people drinking milk at
47:50
dinner. Yes, I wrote that down.
47:51
You did. I wrote it down.
47:53
My God. I was like, yeah, that was like
47:56
one thing that was very not done anymore.
48:00
But at the time I was doing that, I was like, Oh yeah, God,
48:04
I remember just like, chugging milk at dinner, like.
48:06
Crazy. Hardcore.
48:08
Yeah. Like the full family, not the
48:10
whole family, not just the child.
48:11
Like everybody. Like, yeah, we'd go through
48:14
gowns. Yeah.
48:19
That was. I loved that little.
48:21
Yeah. That little nod to a different
48:23
time of a lot of milk drinking. Just tons and tons of milk.
48:29
That was good. That was really.
48:31
Good. What did you think of Jeff Stab?
48:33
I was pretty kind of surprised with his character to be.
48:36
Honest. Yeah.
48:37
I was surprised by him too. Because throughout much of the
48:40
movie, you think where there. OK, so we know Janie's parents
48:46
care where she is. No one else really seems to care
48:49
where their kids are. Like he's just riding his
48:52
motorcycle around all the time. Never has to, you know, respond
48:59
to anyone. But but his dad, I mean, his dad
49:04
loved that his son danced. He was like, you must dance.
49:08
I know you gotta do it that. Support.
49:11
I think it was so, so surprising because you're seeing Janie and
49:17
her dad and just that tension and then you see like what the
49:20
support of a parent does and you're like, wow, that's just
49:23
like a a lot healthier of a relationship.
49:25
Like, big time. And like the the pride that the
49:29
dad feels when he's at the bar, like watching it with all the
49:32
people and the spear, I mean, it's like, wow, like that's a
49:36
lot of pride to have for your kid.
49:38
I like that. Especially in a type of sport
49:43
that you wouldn't necessarily expect this like factory working
49:48
dad who's like watching it at a bar to be like, that's my son.
49:51
Yes, I loved that. Twisting and turning and
49:54
flipping. Yeah, I think it was like one of
49:55
the surprisingly more interesting characters because
50:00
it wasn't just like the working class like trope of a like,
50:05
unfeeling guy, right? It was like a supportive single
50:09
dad. I was totally.
50:10
Let's go. Yeah.
50:11
OK, despite the fact that this kid could do and if he could
50:16
leave and do anything, he wasn't an absent father, you know I.
50:20
Think Jeff is graduated high school?
50:23
You think so? I think he's 18, OK, Because I
50:26
think he's like supposed to be going to trade school.
50:29
That's right. So I think that's right.
50:31
She is kind of technically out of the house.
50:33
So I think that's why there's a little more freedom.
50:35
OK, that gives you if that makes you sleep better at night
50:39
knowing that these fictional children are taken care of.
50:43
And that does that does make you feel good, feel better.
50:47
Oh, yeah. So.
50:48
Oh, he OK, I'm looking at, I'm looking at Wikipedia.
50:53
It says Janie and local high schooler Jeff Shine and are
50:57
partnered together once they make the finals.
50:59
He loves to dance, though he feels pressured to attend trade
51:03
school after graduation, as his father did before him.
51:06
So he is still in high school, but he might be like a Senior
51:11
High School. You're right, because there's
51:13
there's one school scene where they're at the locker.
51:15
Yeah, OK, you're right. So he's a senior?
51:17
So we'll just say he's a senior. Dad's like I raised.
51:20
Yeah. And I guess, yeah, I guess
51:23
you're kind of grown. Yeah, he, I guess his curfew is
51:26
12. And yeah, he seems to be
51:29
honoring it. I don't, I mean.
51:30
Look, he, he was a good kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
51:33
He wasn't getting into trouble. No, I mean.
51:36
Literally just dancing. He did flip.
51:37
For her, I mean, yeah, but he was.
51:41
He was trying to protect. Her yeah, he wasn't just he
51:43
wasn't just stirring the pot, he.
51:46
You're right, He I didn't appreciate how Moody he got.
51:52
Oh my God. I was really disturbed with his
51:55
lack of communication and like, hey, just bring your partner in
51:59
on this. Like, it'd be a lot easier.
52:01
But again, like, how else are they gonna have conflict in this
52:04
film? So of course they had to really
52:06
lean in. Yeah, and it almost makes you
52:10
say, Oh no, is he gonna do it? Is he gonna come around?
52:16
Oh, man. You know what I wish would have
52:18
happened? I wish that.
52:21
I wish that Janie would have just ditched him when he started
52:26
being like a little bitch and she would have just danced with
52:29
her bestie. Lynn I.
52:30
Think that would be epic. That would be so cool.
52:34
Why aren't, why aren't they redoing this?
52:36
And are they? Because this would be a good
52:38
reboot to have a little. I mean, they're rebooting
52:41
everything at this point. Yeah.
52:43
And I'd love to have some, some tweaks.
52:45
Yeah, I'd love to have some tweaks.
52:47
I've got notes. Yeah, we've got notes.
52:50
Oh, we've got notes. We have notes.
52:53
And one of them is that we need someone else to tell Natalie to
52:57
shut the fuck up at the end of the movie.
52:59
That's not what her dad says, but spiritually it's what he
53:02
says. OK, let's see.
53:05
What what else was I was I going to say about?
53:09
Oh, yeah. There's one other thing that I
53:11
just wanted to bring up that has nothing to do with aging well,
53:14
but I loved watching in the scene where Janie essentially
53:19
orchestrates a riot. The buff ladies just pick up the
53:23
bench with the old people on it and just turn it around.
53:27
That's all they do is they pick it up and then they just turn
53:31
them around. I thought that was so funny.
53:35
Yeah. I don't know why.
53:36
I just loved it. It's unbelievable.
53:39
Yeah. It's like some Wes Anderson
53:41
shit. Like, you know, it's totally.
53:43
And it's so like it's only done for like, artistic sit.
53:47
I mean, like how they're posing, like throw young tea.
53:50
I mean, that was a good choice. Yeah, that was a good choice.
53:53
I loved those strong women, but. Me.
53:56
Too bad ass. I loved that.
53:58
Are we serious? Yeah, are you kidding me?
54:00
They were so cool. And they also, like, they
54:03
weren't a punchline either. They easily could have been
54:06
like, oh, look at these. Yeah, look at these manly
54:09
ladies. Oh, I bet they're lesbians.
54:12
Yeah, no. They were just like cool buff
54:15
chicks. Like helping people out.
54:17
Yeah, totally. Remember when they lifted the
54:19
car? Oh that was awesome.
54:21
They're so strong. They're so just so strong.
54:26
And I loved that. Yeah, I loved that for them.
54:30
OK, well, what else do we need to discuss about?
54:34
Girls just want to have fun. I mean, milk was at the top of
54:38
my list, so check. I I just realized, like watching
54:47
it, how much I have always loved teen genre.
54:53
Yeah, like, I still love it to love it to this day.
54:57
And there's something about the age of teenagers that is
55:03
compelling because you're they're in this in between state
55:07
between like and it's such an interesting like thing to
55:11
witness to like enter the world as a team.
55:15
And I think this movie, while being pretty simple, like sure
55:21
shows that a little bit. And I think it's really it's a
55:26
cool time to watch. And it's I would be so
55:30
fascinated to see what teenagers think of watching this now,
55:34
right? Because God, I mean, talk about
55:36
their lives being so drastically different.
55:39
Totally. I mean like those. 40 years ago,
55:42
I mean. So different.
55:44
So like, I don't even know if like they would see any see
55:48
themselves in any of these people.
55:49
Yeah. But it's, I just love the genre.
55:53
So I'm like grateful that we got to talk about it.
55:55
My gosh, me too. I think that probably young
55:59
people would relate to the very first scene where Janie doesn't
56:02
know how to introduce herself, because even young people have
56:08
to do that. Yes.
56:10
Yes, oftentimes more. Yes, so true.
56:13
So. Hopefully, hopefully they see
56:15
themselves in that and say, Phew, I'm not alone.
56:17
Yeah, for sure. Oh, and what about the nuns?
56:21
The nuns were like. The nuns what?
56:24
That nun that was a gymnast, yes.
56:27
Let's go. She she could have been with the
56:30
buff lady. Yes, yes, she looked like she
56:32
she showed up at. The party that would have been
56:34
me. Too.
56:35
I wish that she was lifting that couch with that other lady.
56:38
That would have been so cool. Yeah.
56:41
But they did. Yeah.
56:43
The nuns were very kind of You know what you'd expect of
56:49
Catholic school nun in a movie? Yeah, exactly.
56:53
I had, I had a couple nuns and they weren't, they weren't like
56:58
that so much. No, I think it is.
57:00
I mean, I didn't go to Catholic school.
57:02
Well, in college I went to a Jesuit school, which is like,
57:05
you know, it is Catholic. There were nuns there.
57:09
They they did exist but but they were typically like very chill.
57:17
I have limited, I have limited experience, but my experience
57:23
with nuns has been like their they're pretty normal, yeah,
57:27
kind of just chill nuns. I think I had some strict ones,
57:30
but not like the like, you know, the physically like, you know,
57:36
angry strict ones we saw in the film.
57:38
Totally. There is, like I did recognize
57:41
the discipline that, yeah, the nuns kind of created in this
57:45
environment and mine. It wasn't Sister Act, I'll say.
57:50
That oh. Gosh, yeah.
57:52
Now that that. Now that's a movie.
57:54
Now that. Now that's a girls on the.
57:56
List. Yeah, that was high on the list.
57:58
That was high on the list. It's a really, really.
57:59
Good movie too, I love that. I talked about that movie ages
58:02
ago, in the very beginning Days of the Pond.
58:04
Oh yeah, we've got to start there.
58:06
So. Good, got to start.
58:07
There with our friend Chris Sharp and Tierra shout out front
58:09
of the pond. But yeah, God I I need to
58:13
revisit that movie just for fun. Well, I told you the podcast,
58:18
your podcast has really inspired me to go back in the archives
58:22
and like dig up some of these old films that I had like a lot
58:27
of affinity towards and like, it's so cool watching it with an
58:31
adult brain and just with like a ton of experience.
58:34
So oh. My gosh, that makes me so happy.
58:37
Oh, I have added so many to my watch list because that's
58:41
awesome. ADHD executive function and like
58:43
the scrolling of like, what do I want?
58:45
Yeah, I have. You've got your.
58:47
Set myself up for success. I'm I'm not gonna spend all
58:50
night deciding what to watch. It's great, it's great.
58:53
And I love filled with old stuff because I'm like so bored with
58:57
what's happening right now. So true.
59:00
But that makes me so happy because oftentimes, Kelly,
59:04
people say, oh, your show inspired me to watch this old
59:08
movie and it sucked and now it's ruined.
59:12
And I say that's not my fault that someone made a movie that
59:16
didn't hold up. No, it is not.
59:18
It is not your. Fault.
59:19
Thank you for that. Yeah.
59:21
We can learn from our past, we can learn from our past in the
59:24
movies and like, there's a lot to learn there.
59:27
It's a lot to learn. There's a lot to learn.
59:30
Oh yeah, I'm reading this book right now about pop culture
59:34
shaping how people perceived women in the early aughts, and
59:41
it is depressing. Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad,
59:46
bad, bad. And it's important.
59:48
It's like, it's really bumming me out.
59:51
But it's important because as a millennial woman, this, this is
59:56
like what? What?
59:57
Shaped and informed who I am. Yep, Uh oh.
1:00:02
Yep. I, I, I'm, I just rewatched Ugly
1:00:05
Betty, I told you and I, oh, that's, I was going through that
1:00:09
same just realization of like, wow, like this was the culture
1:00:14
of like, really of me coming to age and just like how they talk
1:00:19
about women and like in so much of that content of that time.
1:00:23
Yeah. I, I did a little rewatch of
1:00:25
stuff in that era and I'm appalled.
1:00:27
Yeah, it's appalled, but also shocking like that it wasn't
1:00:32
that long ago. Like, not at all.
1:00:34
Yeah, not, yeah, not at all. Yeah.
1:00:37
Mm. Hmm.
1:00:39
We have work to do always. Always, always.
1:00:47
And that's, and that's what we, we have to remember when we're
1:00:51
talking about movies on this podcast, is that we're not here
1:00:54
to ruin your favorite movie. That's the movie's fault.
1:00:57
Yeah. But that's not our.
1:01:00
It's not what we want. No, no, no, we want you to enjoy
1:01:06
rewatching from different perspective and like.
1:01:09
That's. Interesting.
1:01:10
And watch it with like some, Yeah, just some curiosity, yeah.
1:01:14
Yes, and you might even have fun.
1:01:16
You will, because what girls just want to have fun.
1:01:22
Kelly, thank you so much for coming on the show.
1:01:25
It was so lovely. Let's talk movies like how fun
1:01:28
is it? God, how fun is this?
1:01:30
So fun. Come on this beanbag.
1:01:32
Anytime. Thank you.
1:01:33
I it's so comfy and like I just kind of want one for myself now.
1:01:38
Well, you should get one. Deal.
1:01:41
It's you could you could collage on it.
1:01:46
Kelly Colleges. I do I do this.
1:01:49
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1:01:59
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