Latest / UF Health MedEd Cast / When Can I Play Again? - The Science of Return to Sport
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- 0:03Melanie Cole, MS (Host): Welcome to UF Health MedEd Cast with
- 0:05UF Health Shands Hospital.
- 0:07I'm Melanie Cole.
- 0:08And today, we're highlighting the science of return to sport.
- 0:13Joining me is Dr.
- 0:14Joshua Reside.
- 0:15He's a fellowship-trained orthopedic surgeon and sports medicine
- 0:18specialist at the University of Florida College of Medicine.
- 0:22Dr.
- 0:22Reside, thank you so much for joining us today.
- 0:25When an athlete, for example, tears their ACL, one of the first things they always
- 0:30want to know is when can I play again?
- 0:32This is a big deal in sports today, whether it's, you know, soccer players or
- 0:38high school, collegiate, or even the pros.
- 0:41What does return to play actually mean when we're looking at a
- 0:45professional such as yourself?
- 0:48Dr. Joshua Reside:
- 0:48Yeah.
- 0:48Thanks for having me, Melanie.
- 0:50You know, it's one of those injuries that is very common, especially in our
- 0:54high school athlete population that I mostly see in our Ocala, Florida area.
- 0:59And what an ACL tear is is basically the ACL is a dynamic stabilizer of the knee.
- 1:07And it's for pivot, change of direction, rotation.
- 1:10And so, when the ACL tears, you know, it's really important that
- 1:14we fix the ACL, and we usually do that through a reconstruction.
- 1:18There are some repair techniques that we can use, but usually a reconstruction,
- 1:22which means using either a graft tissue from your own body or allograft tissue,
- 1:28or other known as cadaver tissue.
- 1:31So in our high school athletes, it's mostly going to be autograft tissue,
- 1:34and I like to use either the quadriceps tendon or the patellar tendon with
- 1:38a couple of bone plugs on each end.
- 1:41And the biggest thing when patients come in with an ACL tear,
- 1:44obviously, we talk about all those things that I just mentioned.
- 1:47But usually, what's on the mind of the athlete is how long are they
- 1:51going to be out of sports, and when can they come back to playing?
- 1:55And I think it's a pretty complicated response to that,
- 1:58because there's so many things that go into returning back to sports.
- 2:02And then, what does returning back to sports actually mean?
- 2:06And so, what I mean by that is, you know, if you're a football player
- 2:10and you're playing in high school.
- 2:12And let's say you're even being recruited for college, returning back to sports
- 2:16isn't just getting back and putting your pads on and sitting on the sidelines.
- 2:20Returning to sports is going to be for me, going back to
- 2:23performing at that same level.
- 2:25And so, I think there's sort of three phases to returning to sports.
- 2:29It's, you know, returning to participation in that sport, returning to competitive
- 2:34play in that sport, and then returning to the same performance level in that sport.
- 2:39And I think there's a lot that goes into that.
- 2:41You know, there's a timeline that we use for all this, which usually gives us
- 2:44a good indication of biological healing.
- 2:47But that timeline of things doesn't necessarily predict how much muscle
- 2:52you'll have in your quadriceps to be able to go back to play.
- 2:55It doesn't tell us if you're psychologically ready to go onto the
- 2:58field and do what you need to do to return to that sport without doing those
- 3:03same sort of motions, the cutting, the pivoting that caused the injury to happen
- 3:07in the first place, there's sometimes a little bit of trauma, you know, in
- 3:11that athlete's mind to do those same sort of maneuvers that eventually led
- 3:15to them having a very serious injury.
- 3:17There's limb symmetry.
- 3:19So after an injury, after an ACL tear, there's quite a bit of quadriceps
- 3:24strength loss in the knee, and that's also sort of multifactorial.
- 3:29There's arthrogenic muscle inhibition.
- 3:31There's also just some atrophy of the muscle, because the
- 3:35quadriceps muscle gets weak.
- 3:37And so, all of these things sort of play into returning back to sports.
- 3:41And these are all conversations I like to have with the athlete when
- 3:44I first see them in the office to sort of give them a timeline of what
- 3:47to expect after they have surgery.
- 3:50The first six weeks after, what do the first three months look like?
- 3:54When can they get back to jogging?
- 3:56So, we talk about all those things in the preoperative visit, discussing
- 4:00the types of grafts and when to expect to come back to sports.
- 4:04And on top of all that, we also get some objective testing where we look at
- 4:08the strength in the operated leg versus the unoperated leg, and we try to get
- 4:12those pretty close to being back to normal before that athlete goes back.
- 4:17So, very multifactorial, and I'm just sort of touching the tip of the iceberg
- 4:21on each one of those sort of topics that plays into returning back to sports.
- 4:26Melanie Cole, MS: That was a very comprehensive answer, Dr.
- 4:29Reside.
- 4:29You and I could really talk about this for a long time.
- 4:32It's a hot topic in sports today.
- 4:35It really is.
- 4:36And since the road to recovery is really never the same for two people, and the
- 4:41sport they're returning to certainly would affect your criteria as you're telling us
- 4:46about the milestones that you look for.
- 4:49What are some of the major factors that you see that inhibit recovery?
- 4:54Now, you mentioned psychological readiness, and we are going
- 4:57to get into that for sure.
- 4:58And strength, symmetry, quality, confidence, I mean, there is a whole
- 5:02lot that goes into it, as you say, but what are some of the factors
- 5:06that inhibit that recovery when we're looking for the criteria that
- 5:10you use to determine readiness?
- 5:13Dr. Joshua Reside:
- 5:13Yeah.
- 5:14We usually get patients into physical therapy right away.
- 5:16And sometimes some of the inhibition to someone's rehab is actually
- 5:21getting access to physical therapy.
- 5:23We oftentimes will run into issues with insurance companies not paying for
- 5:29physical therapy visits, and families have to make tough decisions about paying out
- 5:33of pocket for certain physical therapy costs and how often they're going as far
- 5:38as once a week or once every other week.
- 5:41And so, that's one that I'll commonly see, especially in our population down
- 5:46here in Ocala is there's a little bit of inhibition with sometimes physical therapy
- 5:50being covered by insurance companies.
- 5:52And I've had some patients where it's been a struggle to keep them consistent
- 5:57with the rehab and progression through all of that without the
- 6:00guidance of a physical therapist.
- 6:01And so, physical therapists play a huge role in recovery.
- 6:05And along those same lines, the athletic trainers at the school do a fantastic
- 6:09job getting those athletes ready.
- 6:12And it comes down to those athletes buying into the rehab and owning it
- 6:17as far as them having to actually show some ownership in their recovery to
- 6:22get back to the level that they want to as far as performance in their sport.
- 6:27And so, I would say that would be probably the biggest inhibitors to getting back.
- 6:31or having access to a gym to work on their strengthening having time during
- 6:35their school days and transportation to and from not just physical
- 6:40therapy, but a gym they may be using.
- 6:43And then, sometimes just biology.
- 6:45Sometimes with an ACL tear, we'll also see meniscus tears.
- 6:48We'll see collateral ligament injuries with the MCL or LCL.
- 6:52We'll see multiligamentous knee injuries.
- 6:55All of those sort of things can—I wouldn't necessarily say inhibit, but
- 6:59sort of delay their recovery to coming back to a sport and sometimes prevent
- 7:03them even from coming all the way back to the same performance level.
- 7:07And so, those are just some of the reasons I can think of that at least I've seen as
- 7:11far as patients being inhibited or going back to participating in their sport.
- 7:15Melanie Cole, MS: Yeah.
- 7:16So, let's talk about sports psychology here, which in itself
- 7:20is also now a burgeoning field that we're learning more and more about.
- 7:24So, speak about the mental side of returning, Dr.
- 7:27Reside.
- 7:27So, fear of re-injury, obviously confidence, those things affect readiness.
- 7:32We've learned that athletes can be physically capable,
- 7:36but psychologically hesitant.
- 7:38So, how can physicians, therapists, athletic trainers, coaches, even
- 7:43the parents of athletes work together to assess whether a
- 7:47player is psychologically ready?
- 7:49What do you do when you're speaking to these professionals and
- 7:54helping them to guide the athlete?
- 7:56Dr. Joshua Reside:
- 7:56When I give a clearance for somebody to go back to playing their sport, a
- 8:00medical clearance, that's very different than being ready to go back to play.
- 8:05So based on our numbers and based on our objective findings and our
- 8:09physical findings, you're right, sometimes patients are ready to go back.
- 8:13And so, there's been a lot of research in this area, and there are some things
- 8:16and some tools that I can use as a surgeon to help assess that readiness.
- 8:20Some of those things are questionnaires.
- 8:22Some of that is just my assessment, talking with the patient, asking them,
- 8:26you know, if they're ready to go back and sort of if they're ready or what
- 8:29concerns they may have about going back.
- 8:32But it really is a team approach to going back to this.
- 8:35And what I mean by that is I want to know what their physical therapist
- 8:38thinks when they're watching them do their exercises as they go back.
- 8:42And so, oftentimes at the end of their rehab, we'll have them
- 8:45return back to pivoting and changing direction and rotating.
- 8:49And they'll do those things in front of their physical therapist.
- 8:52And I want to know what their physical therapist thinks if there
- 8:54looks like there's any hesitation.
- 8:56Another huge advantage that we have is our athletic trainers at our high schools in
- 9:01Ocala at least they know these athletes.
- 9:04They are with them at practices.
- 9:06They're with them at games.
- 9:07They know how these athletes move normally and what their baseline is.
- 9:12And so, I really rely on their judgment as far as, you know, watching these
- 9:16athletes as they recover to get back to doing the same things that they were
- 9:20doing before and doing it in a safe way.
- 9:23There's a lot, I think, that goes into that.
- 9:26And then, I think the last thing that I'll mention is when we talk about
- 9:31going back to playing sports, there's a little bit of a controversy on whether
- 9:35or not bracing will make a difference.
- 9:38And so, we'll oftentimes order a brace.
- 9:41In the literature, there's been no findings that have shown that
- 9:44the brace prevents any re-injury of the ACL graft specifically.
- 9:49But there are some studies that show that, psychologically, it may help
- 9:53patients and athletes get back to playing just having the brace on.
- 9:58On the flip side of that, there are some studies that argue that having
- 10:01that brace on may change the way that the athlete would normally move.
- 10:04And so, it's definitely controversial.
- 10:07And usually towards the end of the rehab, I'll have a conversation
- 10:09with the patient to see if they're interested in wearing a brace.
- 10:12And I would say most of my patients usually feel more comfortable
- 10:15going back to playing at least starting with the brace on.
- 10:18And then, over time, they may find it easier to get
- 10:21around and to move without it.
- 10:23But all of those things sort of play into getting an athlete
- 10:26psychologically ready to go back to play.
- 10:28Melanie Cole, MS: Yeah, bracing is an interesting topic in itself, right?
- 10:33So when we think of re-injury, Dr.
- 10:37Reside, can we predict who's going to be at a higher risk of tearing their ACL?
- 10:40I suppose that some of it's going to be adherence and compliance, as
- 10:44you said, physical therapy, making sure that they're doing prehab before
- 10:47surgery and, you know, rehab afterwards and really keeping up with that.
- 10:53But what do you see most often when re-injury happens?
- 10:57Does it happen too quickly?
- 10:59Are they not ready?
- 11:02Tell us what you see.
- 11:04Dr. Joshua Reside:
- 11:04Yeah.
- 11:04So, there's a lot of different reasons that that can happen as well.
- 11:08You mentioned prehab and things like that.
- 11:10I think that's always really important.
- 11:11I tell patients that, after surgery, we know that there's
- 11:14going to be atrophy of the muscle, the quadriceps muscle especially.
- 11:19We know that there's going to be some stiffness in their knee as
- 11:22far as range of motion that we'll have to get through with rehab.
- 11:25So, I always tell patients that, before we even do the surgery, wherever we
- 11:31start as far as our strength and our range of motion, we know that there's
- 11:34going to be a dip after surgery.
- 11:37And so if we can start that in a better spot be a little bit stronger, make
- 11:40sure our range of motion is in a really good place, then that dip that we have
- 11:44after surgery won't be as far down if we prepare the knee with prehabilitation.
- 11:49So, I think that's where that comes in, and that can even sort of get us in a
- 11:53better starting point when we start our rehab, which can definitely speed things
- 11:57along as far as that recovery timeline and getting back to where we need to.
- 12:01And so, I think it starts there.
- 12:03And then, throughout the process, there's the biological healing of the actual graft
- 12:08that we put in for the reconstruction.
- 12:10I usually tell patients that around three months or so, we're
- 12:14expecting the graft to be pretty much healed at that point, any meniscus
- 12:17injuries to be healed at that point.
- 12:19The range of motion around that time should be pretty close back to normal.
- 12:23And then, what we have for the rest of the rehab is getting the strength back, and
- 12:27that's what takes the longest to get back.
- 12:29And it's the same for everyone, even the professional athletes in the NFL that
- 12:33have every resource available to them, they have physical therapists that work
- 12:36with them every day, they have a chef that's cooking their meals, even those
- 12:40patients, it still takes them the same amount of time to get back to sports.
- 12:44And it really just comes down to there's no cheat code of getting that muscle back
- 12:49other than just putting in the hard work.
- 12:51And so, as patients get back to playing, I think that we see re-injuries—if
- 12:57we see someone with an ACL injury in the first place, we know that they're
- 13:00playing at a level, they're cutting, they're pivoting, they're doing something
- 13:04at a high energy level that has the propensity to cause an ACL injury.
- 13:08And so, those athletes, when they go back to playing the same sport with the same
- 13:12amount of energy that they played with to begin with, they're just inherently
- 13:16at risk of also either re-tearing the same knee or injuring the other knee.
- 13:20And I've seen that in my practice, not necessarily as much on the same
- 13:25knee, but on the other knee, of having a patient tear their ACL,
- 13:29say, on their left knee, and then, you know, a year later or eighteen
- 13:32months later, injuring the other side.
- 13:34And when that happens, we start to look for some other things of why would this
- 13:38be happening as far as their posterior tibial slope is the alignment of their
- 13:44leg in such a way that puts them at risk, if their knee is valgusing, for example.
- 13:49Especially in female athletes, we look at the the biofeedback
- 13:54of landing from a jump.
- 13:56A lot of women will have their knees sort of buckle in or go knock-kneed.
- 14:00And so, recognizing that and trying to correct those things with biofeedback is
- 14:06where our physical therapists come in to help try to learn different ways to land
- 14:11with our knees, to put us in positions that don't put the ACL at risk of tearing.
- 14:15And then, there's been a lot of studies that look at other things that
- 14:18increase the risk of ACL injuries, even concussions for some reason.
- 14:23They're not exactly sure the direct correlation with that, but patients
- 14:27that have concussions are at higher risk of tearing their ACLs.
- 14:31There's just so much interesting connections to athletes that are
- 14:35playing these high-level sports and putting so much energy through
- 14:39their knees and playing physically.
- 14:41There's so many different connections to an ACL injury, and it's really interesting
- 14:45to learn about those things, because it helps us in the prevention department
- 14:49of trying to prevent these injuries from happening in the first place.
- 14:52Melanie Cole, MS: Yeah, that's so important.
- 14:53You made so many great points, and that's interesting about concussion and ACL risk.
- 14:59You know, we know females have that higher risk of ACL injury, but concussion, that's
- 15:05an interesting field of study right there.
- 15:06So Dr.
- 15:08Reside, as we get ready to wrap up, when you think about patients, whether they are
- 15:13collegiate, professional, or even weekend warriors, you know, when we think about
- 15:17cross-training and chronic overuse, not so much acute injuries as we're talking about
- 15:23here today, what would you like patients to ask their surgeon or physical therapist
- 15:28before returning back to normal activity?
- 15:30And since readiness is really not about always what an athlete can demonstrate,
- 15:37but how long it's been since surgery and what they are really ready for,
- 15:42if you could leave them with one piece of advice about returning to sport
- 15:46after an injury, what would that be?
- 15:49Dr. Joshua Reside:
- 15:49I think when you're thinking about going back to playing sports, there's
- 15:52sort of three phases of that, right?
- 15:53You have your physical readiness, you have the biological readiness,
- 15:58you know, is everything healed?
- 15:59And you have the psychological component to, am I ready to go back and play
- 16:03and commit to doing those moves that I used to do in my sport that maybe
- 16:07have ultimately led to your injury.
- 16:10And so, I think for the biological component, that's where the
- 16:12timeline comes in as far as just how far out after sports.
- 16:16And there's been some pretty good studies that have shown that around
- 16:19a nine-month mark is a good benchmark as far as having, like, a minimum.
- 16:23And so, there's a pretty good study that showed that patients that
- 16:26return to sports before nine months had a higher re-injury rate to the
- 16:30same knee as far as a graft risk.
- 16:33And so, I think at least having those nine months to really work
- 16:37hard on the rehab is important.
- 16:39I think the second phase of that is the physical readiness.
- 16:42And so, that's not only getting the strength back in your quadriceps
- 16:46muscle, but looking at the symmetry of the leg compared to the other side.
- 16:51And so, we usually will get a Biodex test.
- 16:53And what that does is it compares the strength in the uninjured leg and compares
- 16:57it to the surgically reconstructed leg.
- 17:00And what we like to see with that is a less than 10% symmetry deficit.
- 17:05And so, we want that strength to come all the way back to at least within 10%
- 17:09of the other leg that wasn't injured.
- 17:11And what that does is the quadriceps muscle is so dynamic
- 17:14that it protects the graft.
- 17:15And so when you're running, when you're landing, when you're jumping, your
- 17:18quadriceps muscle is doing a lot of the work as far as absorbing that energy.
- 17:22And if you're weak in the quadriceps muscle and it's not like the other side,
- 17:27you may be putting the graft at risk.
- 17:28And so, I think at least, you know, waiting around nine months or so for
- 17:33the biological healing of everything, I think getting the quadriceps
- 17:36strength back and the limb symmetry.
- 17:39And then, like I said before, as far as that psychological readiness,
- 17:42that's sort of a multifaceted approach between the physical therapist,
- 17:46between me as the surgeon, between their athletic trainer and the athlete
- 17:50really coming together as a team and deciding are we ready to go back.
- 17:54And what that looks like necessarily isn't just, okay, we're clear to go
- 17:57back, and we're right back in the game.
- 17:59What a clearance back to sports looks like is, you know, you get back to doing
- 18:03individual drills on the sidelines where we're controlling for all the variables.
- 18:07You don't have anybody else that's coming at your leg or trying
- 18:10to take the ball away from you.
- 18:12We're not running on wet grass.
- 18:14You know, we're trying to control those unknown variables to try to be in a very
- 18:17controlled setting to do those things.
- 18:21Then, we sort of graduate on to practices without contact.
- 18:24Then, we graduate on to practice with contact.
- 18:27So, even a clearance back to playing and getting back to doing those
- 18:30things may take several months before you're getting back to actually
- 18:34playing at the same competition level.
- 18:36And for some of my athletes, they do get back to returning
- 18:39at the same performance level.
- 18:41But sometimes that can take even up to a year to get that confidence back, to
- 18:46get the strength all the way back and to really feel like you're getting back
- 18:49to doing what you love to do at the same level that you were previously.
- 18:54Melanie Cole, MS: What a great episode this was.
- 18:55What a great discussion.
- 18:56Dr.
- 18:57Reside, thank you so much for joining us today and sharing your incredible
- 19:02expertise in this really hot topic that is so interesting for all the people
- 19:07that are involved with these athletes, whether it's a coach or a parent or
- 19:11the athletic trainers, the physical therapists, and the orthopedic surgeons.
- 19:14You've really given us a lot to think about, so thank you so much.
- 19:18And to learn more about this and other healthcare topics at UF
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- 19:31That concludes today's episode of UF Health MedEd Cast with
- 19:35UF Health Shands Hospital.
- 19:37I'm Melanie Cole.