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- 1:02[SPEAKER_04]: For full-times in Condition See Film and TVReview.com And welcome to this week's Roundup of the Last Month in Firmant TV.
- 1:25[SPEAKER_04]: This week will be telling dangerous animals, party, unusual, hurry up tomorrow.
- 1:31[SPEAKER_04]: number one on the core sheet.
- 1:33[SPEAKER_04]: We tried to look at how the loss or Dr. Hughes series ended recently.
- 1:38[SPEAKER_04]: And of course, a terrific anniversary of X-Men, which is this week.
- 1:43[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, let's begin.
- 1:45[SPEAKER_04]: Dangerous animals, James.
- 1:48[SPEAKER_04]: This seems a strange premise.
- 1:51[SPEAKER_04]: As it's like a surfer, zephyr, abducted prior shark obsessed serial killer who uses humans as bait.
- 2:00[SPEAKER_04]: comedy horror.
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- 2:14[SPEAKER_00]: three characters in Australia and it sounds like a start of the joke, but there's an Australian actor, an English actor, and an American actor.
- 2:23[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's an Australian movie, I might be wrong.
- 2:26[SPEAKER_00]: But there's a, well, are they a couple?
- 2:28[SPEAKER_00]: Because she says they're not, but it seems to be a couple.
- 2:31[SPEAKER_00]: They turn up for the shock experience run by Jay Courtney.
- 2:34[SPEAKER_00]: you know, him from Terminator Genesis, suicide squad one, all those classics.
- 2:41[SPEAKER_00]: And although he's very goodness, he's probably the best thing in this movie, Andy's is having a lot of fun in it, which is the only example of fun in this movie, and I'll come to that.
- 2:53[SPEAKER_00]: So he runs the shark experience and he's like, we can put you in a steel cage, like in jaws, and put you down with the sharks, and the sharks will be swimming around you.
- 3:03[SPEAKER_00]: and it will be this amazing experience, the traveling and they can go back and tell people about it.
- 3:08[SPEAKER_00]: So they go and do that.
- 3:09[SPEAKER_00]: They go and do that.
- 3:10[SPEAKER_00]: You think anyone who sees George wants to do that, but they go down and they're lifted out and the sharks haven't eaten them, it's all fine.
- 3:18[SPEAKER_00]: Jai Courtney then kills the man and the credits roll.
- 3:23[SPEAKER_00]: So this is all pre-credits, right?
- 3:25[SPEAKER_00]: So he's now keeping the woman for himself.
- 3:28[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, cut to somewhere else in America or Australia, I'm not sure, but there is a young woman who goes on a date.
- 3:37[SPEAKER_00]: She's sort of seeing this guy, she has one night stand, not sure whether to see this guy again or not.
- 3:43[SPEAKER_00]: She then gets abducted by a guy caught me.
- 3:46[SPEAKER_00]: And then the whole film is kind of about trying to escape from Jai Kourtney, this insane guy who has been bitten by a bitten and survived the shark tag as a child.
- 3:58[SPEAKER_00]: And now seems to get off of abducting people and dropping in in the water to let them be killed by sharks.
- 4:07[SPEAKER_00]: in the same premise.
- 4:08[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of like if Eli Rothhood's directed jaws, it definitely feels like a very hostile premise.
- 4:17[SPEAKER_00]: So Joy Courtney is crazed in this.
- 4:20[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very effective horror.
- 4:23[SPEAKER_00]: I will say that.
- 4:25[SPEAKER_00]: It's a weird thing to say that you enjoy though.
- 4:28[SPEAKER_00]: Like I've said, the amount of reviews I've seen on this on letterbox of people go, this was fun, this was fun.
- 4:35[SPEAKER_00]: If you think this film's fun, I don't want to speak to you.
- 4:38[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're talking about.
- 4:40[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's really, like if someone's favorite film's were just all the hostile films, you'd be like, what's wrong with you though?
- 4:48[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't mean that.
- 4:51[SPEAKER_00]: There's a bad thing.
- 4:51[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you want to watch a good horror, this is a good horror.
- 4:54[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how people are describing it as fun though, because it's kind of a little bit disturbing.
- 4:59[SPEAKER_00]: But that's what you want from a horror, right?
- 5:01[SPEAKER_00]: But it definitely not horror comedy.
- 5:04[SPEAKER_00]: Joy Courtney is unhinged and psychopathic in this.
- 5:09[SPEAKER_00]: and it does that job effectively.
- 5:11[SPEAKER_00]: I was listening to something else where they were going, it strange that this is a fifteen certificate.
- 5:16[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's because a lot of, it's not going to be a spoiler with this premise, but a lot of the pain is inflicted by sharks rather than human beings.
- 5:27[SPEAKER_00]: Although it is an extension of what Jai Courtney's doing, if that makes sense.
- 5:31[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a very odd kind of setup.
- 5:34[SPEAKER_00]: It's basically just
- 5:36[SPEAKER_00]: a survival thing of we need to get away from this psycho and he's his sharks that he has and yeah it's also that there is a sequence in it which is really grim but thinking about it
- 5:51[SPEAKER_00]: It's more the suggestion of it rather than what you actually see.
- 5:55[SPEAKER_00]: I'm being deliberately vague, but there was something that if I described it to you, you'd go, well, that can't be in a fifteen-fill.
- 6:01[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they've managed to get it in, but who knows what goes on the BBC said these days?
- 6:07[SPEAKER_00]: They think the equaliser is a fifteen, you know, there's a watch at a running round being cube, chainsaw in people or whatever.
- 6:13[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, if you want to really disturb in horror film, this is a good one.
- 6:18[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm so pleased I saw this as screen unseen rather than clown in the cornfield.
- 6:24[SPEAKER_00]: But I think to describe it as fun is a bit of an overstrength.
- 6:29[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 6:31[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, Richard, next.
- 6:35[SPEAKER_04]: Um, the title, part of the year, is that a French film or series?
- 6:41[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
- 6:41[SPEAKER_04]: What's the premise?
- 6:42[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yes.
- 6:43[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, it's the French film actually part of the year.
- 6:46[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it was on opening nights in, uh, I believe in the festival of Cannes in, in, in, in, in, five.
- 6:53[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, small indie movie.
- 6:58[SPEAKER_02]: But I could have missed.
- 7:01[SPEAKER_02]: If I wasn't told, it was amazing.
- 7:03[SPEAKER_02]: By his own friends online to say, oh, well, you like movies.
- 7:06[SPEAKER_02]: You should try it, that's right.
- 7:09[SPEAKER_02]: At first, when I look at the poster, I didn't know anything about the movie.
- 7:12[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking, okay, that's another French movie with all the cliches stuff and all the bad stuff that you have seen in a thousand times.
- 7:21[SPEAKER_02]: And no, it's a very nice indie movie, kind of,
- 7:28[SPEAKER_02]: Try to sum quickly what it's about.
- 7:30[SPEAKER_02]: It's about a character.
- 7:37[SPEAKER_02]: The main character is a girl who is in her ferties and lives in a big city in Paris.
- 7:46[SPEAKER_02]: And she has become quite a successful chef.
- 7:51[SPEAKER_02]: She is about to open her own restaurant.
- 7:55[SPEAKER_02]: She has been actually kind of the winner of trying to use an English version of its master chef.
- 8:05[SPEAKER_02]: He's master chef.
- 8:07[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 8:07[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of French version of master chef, Scott Top Chef in France.
- 8:12[SPEAKER_02]: And so yeah, she has also she's kind of on the professional level.
- 8:17[SPEAKER_02]: It's going very well.
- 8:18[SPEAKER_02]: But on the personal level, she's on enough relationship with a guy.
- 8:23[SPEAKER_02]: She just found out she's pregnant.
- 8:25[SPEAKER_02]: and she's not sure that she is the one that she wants to spend the life with.
- 8:29[SPEAKER_02]: She and she definitely not touched with a parent.
- 8:35[SPEAKER_02]: She has no connection with a parent anymore.
- 8:37[SPEAKER_02]: But she's kind of because she's still forced not forced, but she's trying to actually to reconnect with a parent.
- 8:47[SPEAKER_02]: So she goes back to home town in the middle of nowhere in France and see them for what we can have parents.
- 8:55[SPEAKER_02]: and to try to see how they are.
- 8:59[SPEAKER_02]: Her plan was not to reconnect with them, but the whole movie is lonely, not even a movie.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_02]: The whole movie is her kind of, again, it wasn't appropriate on purpose, but in a way she will walk down memory lane by getting to know once again her parents, let's say,
- 9:24[SPEAKER_02]: and reconnect with some childhood friends that she has left behind when she went to Paris to become a better successful.
- 9:33[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to say, maybe the business is nothing new here.
- 9:38[SPEAKER_02]: You have seen it before, but it's really well done.
- 9:41[SPEAKER_02]: I said, when I left, I said, in reminded me of Garden States, the movie by Zach Barath, with Natalie Portman, which I found, if I think it was twenty years ago, I found it was a very
- 9:54[SPEAKER_02]: Lovely movie, very Disney movie, back in the day.
- 9:57[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, when I compare it to this, it's good sign.
- 10:01[SPEAKER_02]: It definitely, obviously, when you are in your thirty to forty's, you understand what she, a few things that she's going through.
- 10:10[SPEAKER_02]: And also, the fact that you have left some friends from middle school and high school, etc.
- 10:16[SPEAKER_02]: So, obviously, you connect easily to the character.
- 10:22[SPEAKER_02]: And the fact that it's a musical, actually, it's not on your drum-up, it's a drum-up.
- 10:25[SPEAKER_02]: It's quite emotional sometimes, but it's also a musical that's being seen a lot of French songs, sorry about that, by the way.
- 10:33[SPEAKER_02]: If you ever see it, it's sort of only known in French, by the way, partying in a group was kind of a terrible, terrible French song by boys bands in the early two thousands.
- 10:48[SPEAKER_02]: So it's called like that because actually she was a big fan of his voice band when she was like twelve or thirteen years old.
- 10:54[SPEAKER_02]: So it's pretty funny but actually she chose this as a title memory anyway.
- 11:00[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's a lot of nineties and two thousand songs that the characters and the actors obviously sing in this movie.
- 11:10[SPEAKER_02]: As it is very light-hearted, it's a nice little indie movie.
- 11:17[SPEAKER_02]: I can't understand why it was chosen to open a physical account.
- 11:21[SPEAKER_02]: It's to give you a good mood, let's say.
- 11:24[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I hope actually that people might see it abroad as well.
- 11:30[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, thanks.
- 11:32[SPEAKER_04]: Next.
- 11:34[SPEAKER_04]: Hurry up, tomorrow.
- 11:37[SPEAKER_04]: James, you saw this.
- 11:38[SPEAKER_04]: Hi, I'm musical theme to this as well.
- 11:40[SPEAKER_04]: What's
- 11:42[SPEAKER_04]: There is.
- 11:43[SPEAKER_00]: I would like to start by saying that, so this is a film by the weekend, the music artist, the weekend.
- 11:51[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to start by saying, I think the weekend is a really good pop on Beatis, one of the best pop on Beatis of the last ten years.
- 12:01[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think anyone would argue about that.
- 12:03[SPEAKER_00]: He's really good at music.
- 12:07[SPEAKER_00]: This is his film, and I think the best way to describe it is to say, in this film, the weekend plays the weekend, and he doesn't play the weekend very well.
- 12:22[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a vanity project.
- 12:24[SPEAKER_00]: I saw it enjoyed it, so it's been famously, it's not got very good reviews as film, and I still went to watch it.
- 12:34[SPEAKER_00]: And basically the plot is the weekend is doing concerts, but he's going out with Jenna Ortega.
- 12:41[SPEAKER_00]: who's not playing general fatigue, by the way, she's playing his girlfriend.
- 12:44[SPEAKER_00]: And he's girlfriend is mental.
- 12:47[SPEAKER_00]: His manager is barricut own.
- 12:50[SPEAKER_00]: So this is just all the people that have appeared in the Sabrina Carpenter videos, basically.
- 12:55[SPEAKER_00]: They're in this film.
- 12:57[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like a little, it's not even the extended music video.
- 13:00[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a vanity project.
- 13:01[SPEAKER_00]: So he's performing all these songs.
- 13:04[SPEAKER_00]: General fatigue goes mental and ties him to a bed.
- 13:10[SPEAKER_00]: And then
- 13:11[SPEAKER_00]: people were laughing in the cinema at things that weren't meant to be funny.
- 13:15[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the level of this film.
- 13:19[SPEAKER_00]: So I would say I thought it was really well shot and I did really appreciate like the sort of the fact that it was like a bit excess, you know, it's a film made from excess, I think it's probably self-funded and all the rest of it.
- 13:35[SPEAKER_00]: It is really well shot.
- 13:36[SPEAKER_00]: There's a really
- 13:38[SPEAKER_00]: I want to ruin one part of the any good part of the meeting, but there is one part that I thought was really well done.
- 13:43[SPEAKER_00]: It's quite a disturbing part.
- 13:46[SPEAKER_00]: But there's all and there's always no dialogue at the start.
- 13:49[SPEAKER_00]: There's just a part from the dialogue that's sound.
- 13:52[SPEAKER_00]: And then once they start talking,
- 13:56[SPEAKER_00]: very late into the film.
- 13:57[SPEAKER_00]: You wish they wouldn't because the dialogue is terrible and it's general fatigue, basically saying stuff that wouldn't even get into a soap about.
- 14:06[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my parents didn't love me and I feel connection with you and blah, blah, blah.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_00]: And you think there's partly felt like general fatigue as people said she needs some lines of dialogue, can we give us some lines of dialogue and they just wrote them on the back of a cigarette packet.
- 14:19[SPEAKER_00]: And it actually happened to that point.
- 14:20[SPEAKER_00]: You could almost watch it as a mood piece and it was kind of possible.
- 14:25[SPEAKER_00]: It's really unfortunate that the moment there's a moment right at the end that he's meant to be a big moment and people just laughed in the cinema.
- 14:33[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, any of these would it is you get to hear some of the songs from his latest album.
- 14:38[SPEAKER_00]: But there's barely any plot to it other than he's argued he's in successful artist and he's argued with his girlfriend.
- 14:47[SPEAKER_00]: And that's pretty much it.
- 14:49[SPEAKER_00]: So definitely in my top ten films of the year.
- 14:53[SPEAKER_00]: Nah, joke it.
- 14:55[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hurry up tomorrow.
- 14:56[SPEAKER_00]: If you like the weekend, you might find something in it.
- 14:58[SPEAKER_00]: But if you don't, it's probably not a film to watch.
- 15:02[SPEAKER_04]: Is it so bad?
- 15:03[SPEAKER_04]: It's good.
- 15:05[SPEAKER_04]: Watchable.
- 15:06[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like I said, I think the way it's shot.
- 15:09[SPEAKER_00]: There is something good about that, but I don't, yeah, I don't know really.
- 15:14[SPEAKER_00]: And it was good sex, I sort of really, really big screen and that probably helped it.
- 15:18[SPEAKER_00]: I think actually on streaming, I might have fallen asleep to be honest with you.
- 15:25[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think there is a curiosity though, and when we're talking about bad filmmaking, sometimes it is interesting to see something, sometimes maybe we take things for granted and storytelling things, and here you see what happens when you take that way.
- 15:39[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know if there was a script to be honest.
- 15:41[SPEAKER_00]: I'm being quite harsh, but yeah, it was okay.
- 15:45[SPEAKER_00]: It was what it was.
- 15:49[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, thanks for that.
- 15:51[SPEAKER_04]: Next.
- 15:54[SPEAKER_04]: Number one on the core sheet.
- 15:58[SPEAKER_04]: Jamie Fox leads this.
- 16:00[SPEAKER_04]: Our funds are you so this?
- 16:04[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a two part of the documentary produced by Jamie Fox.
- 16:09[SPEAKER_03]: It's about actors, black actors and actresses who have been number one on the core sheet.
- 16:16[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the most relevant, the star.
- 16:20[SPEAKER_03]: of Hollywood nowadays and in the past decades and it's a two-power because the first part is dedicated to actors, the male actors and it's one of these talking heads documentary but you have everyone there and it's very
- 16:42[SPEAKER_03]: Comforting, whole-summer, no.
- 16:44[SPEAKER_03]: It's for people who like movies.
- 16:47[SPEAKER_03]: You have everyone talking about how they got to raise the ranks of actors in quality with how they got their first protagonist to be the first movie where they were.
- 17:02[SPEAKER_03]: Number one on the call sheet.
- 17:04[SPEAKER_03]: And what did men do then?
- 17:07[SPEAKER_03]: And it's interesting to see how they talk about who preceded them.
- 17:12[SPEAKER_03]: There are lots of clips from films also in this two-part documentary.
- 17:17[SPEAKER_03]: And if you like Hollywood and films and black actors and actresses, of course.
- 17:26[SPEAKER_03]: I recommend it because it's a good watch.
- 17:28[SPEAKER_03]: In the first one you have it like everyone you have.
- 17:31[SPEAKER_03]: Then, so watching turn, doing yarns, some more garden three men will sniff it yourself.
- 17:36[SPEAKER_03]: I did more feed, Lawrence Fissper and Aliyah Kahlu.
- 17:40[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Morris Chess, not John Tidal, Ice Cube, Marlon Ways, Martin Lawrence, John Boya, well,
- 17:48[SPEAKER_03]: Lots of people.
- 17:50[SPEAKER_03]: It's in the first part.
- 17:52[SPEAKER_03]: In the second part, you have Sintia, Rebo, Taraji, P.K.
- 17:55[SPEAKER_03]: P.K.
- 17:55[SPEAKER_03]: P.K.
- 17:55[SPEAKER_03]: P.K.
- 17:55[SPEAKER_03]: P.K.
- 17:55[SPEAKER_03]: P.K.
- 17:55[SPEAKER_03]: P.K.
- 17:55[SPEAKER_03]: P.K.
- 17:56[SPEAKER_03]: P.K.
- 17:56[SPEAKER_03]: P.K.
- 18:06[SPEAKER_03]: lots of more, lots more.
- 18:09[SPEAKER_03]: And it's yet, it's very nice because you kind of like all those people and they tell you what it means for them being one on the co-ship, how it was on purpose, how Hollywood has changed,
- 18:28[SPEAKER_03]: What kind of films gave them the possibility in the nineties, mostly in the nineties and from the nineties on to be on-world, to be in the protagonists of movies, how people like Will Smith decided that they wanted to expand on that and be an international star and they wanted to be
- 18:59[SPEAKER_03]: to know that in that they say that black films don't travel then he wanted to be as big a star as anyone else which only happened with then sale more or less but will kind of made even bigger or he and himself basically at the same time more or less
- 19:22[SPEAKER_03]: And how now it is different than John Vallega, I can do, how it can be determined in the Star Wars.
- 19:33[SPEAKER_03]: And what it has happened a lot.
- 19:36[SPEAKER_03]: I have changed a lot.
- 19:39[SPEAKER_03]: Daniel Caluia, for example, and many others who now are.
- 19:43[SPEAKER_03]: And they talk about how backpants there was another like,
- 19:51[SPEAKER_03]: one of these films that kind of sets a new standard of what a movie with all black cast can be for a mix of successful everywhere in the world.
- 20:05[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know.
- 20:08[SPEAKER_03]: I enjoy it very much.
- 20:13[SPEAKER_03]: Listening to them as they talked about how it had changed for them over the years.
- 20:22[SPEAKER_00]: Where is that?
- 20:23[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on.
- 20:24[SPEAKER_00]: I'll put TV.
- 20:25[SPEAKER_04]: All right, okay.
- 20:34[SPEAKER_04]: Next.
- 20:34[SPEAKER_04]: I think a long running show, which came to its season finale.
- 20:42[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe more ways than one.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_04]: That was a Doctor Who series fifty.
- 20:50[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's only me in two seasons.
- 21:00[SPEAKER_04]: I watched this one's Owen James, you too.
- 21:04[SPEAKER_04]: Watch this.
- 21:05[SPEAKER_04]: It's quite a lot more headlines online about this show than maybe show itself.
- 21:15[SPEAKER_04]: I did watch it over an open mind and it seemed something interesting episodes there.
- 21:20[SPEAKER_04]: James, what's your think of this very short?
- 21:26[SPEAKER_00]: They are short to runs and I suppose it starts with joy to the world which is the Christmas specials of nine nine episodes down from the when this come back in the two thousand five they were thirteen episodes plus a Christmas special but there was maybe an element of filler going on in some of those earlier ones so I kind of like that they've reduced the the episode count
- 21:55[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, oddly, for particularly Russell T. Davis, sort of two areas of Dr. Who.
- 22:03[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's been some really strong episodes, this series, and maybe the weakest two with the last two, which usually doesn't happen, actually one of them
- 22:12[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, I don't even have his criticism, but an observation is that because he was so good at putting an arc in, sometimes you would stop really paying attention.
- 22:22[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a viewer to some of the other episodes waiting to see where this all led at the end of the series.
- 22:28[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously we've had the misflug
- 22:32[SPEAKER_00]: arc, which is threaded through scenes, the style she'd get was episode, I think he's first episode, Christmas special, and they have paid that off.
- 22:40[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought, yeah, straight to the world was really good with sort of no regular companion.
- 22:47[SPEAKER_00]: The robot revolution maybe wasn't the strongest episode.
- 22:50[SPEAKER_00]: It definitely had the biggest budget, but maybe it didn't feel so much like Dr. Who I think.
- 22:57[SPEAKER_00]: Belinda's been a really good good companion and it'll be interesting to see whether the two companions are back when this comes back.
- 23:05[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about what's happening maybe with the show it in a little while.
- 23:09[SPEAKER_00]: The likes episode I thought was really good.
- 23:11[SPEAKER_00]: One of the ones it shouldn't have worked and it did.
- 23:14[SPEAKER_00]: So it kind of pulls the fourth wall down the one setting Miami and when I saw there was going to be a two D monster in it, I was at our come on.
- 23:22[SPEAKER_00]: But it was uns, it was surprisingly
- 23:26[SPEAKER_00]: really emotional in the bitweight does the the the the reveal as well.
- 23:32[SPEAKER_00]: It was definitely a love letter to the fans that that so uh you then get the well which is episode three which is the sequel to Midnight from the David Tenant era.
- 23:42[SPEAKER_00]: I watched a lot of horror and I jumped twice hard in this.
- 23:46[SPEAKER_00]: I thought this was really good and this isn't an example where
- 23:49[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably one of the lower budget episodes, and I think that Doctor Who does this really well is when you strip all its budget away, and it's got to be more creative.
- 23:59[SPEAKER_00]: I think actually that they tend to be the better episodes, and I thought the world was absolutely fantastic.
- 24:05[SPEAKER_00]: I really like the satire of Lucky Day, which it's weird that we're still having Doctor Light episodes, so we always used to have an any non-Hovians, I apologize I'm going too geeky.
- 24:15[SPEAKER_00]: But during the early Russell T. Davis era, as we used to get a doctor light episode, and that's because they were basically overstretched with thirteen fourteen episodes.
- 24:24[SPEAKER_00]: So they always had to have an episode where the doctor was barely in it.
- 24:28[SPEAKER_00]: So famously in season three, that everyone's favorite David Tenet episode is called Blink.
- 24:35[SPEAKER_00]: It launched Carrie Mulligan's career in a sense.
- 24:39[SPEAKER_00]: and David Tennant's belly in it, because that was the thing, but Stephen Moffett wrote a really good creative script to almost do that.
- 24:47[SPEAKER_00]: So lucky day is a very unit heavy episode, and maybe it's to do as well the spin-off that's coming, but he's not really in that, but I really like the sort of satire of people online and things in that episode.
- 25:00[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was really good.
- 25:02[SPEAKER_00]: And then probably in a bit to the documentary,
- 25:06[SPEAKER_00]: Now, funds are always talking about, but we have the story in the engine, which is predominantly black cast, in fact, though, I think there was any black cast members in it.
- 25:12[SPEAKER_00]: And we get a return of the fugitive doctor, which I did not see coming, the ones who Joe Martin.
- 25:18[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought those episodes really, and I've almost forgotten, the interstellar contest, the song contest, is probably the most Russell T. Davis episode of The Lock, that he knew this was going out on Eurovision Night, and he did this episode that feeds into it.
- 25:32[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of fun.
- 25:34[SPEAKER_00]: UK celebs like Rylan and Graham Lawton, Peer in it and an appearance from Susan Foreman and originally the original companion from nineteen sixty three which they need to revisit because that wasn't tied up at the end of the series.
- 25:50[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was really I thought that one was really really good episode and also you've got
- 25:56[SPEAKER_00]: a darker doctor, because this is always the thing that's worked quite well since the serviced employers have them light at the start and then show them go a bit crazy towards the end and Belinda has to stop him going too far in this episode.
- 26:10[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I thought it was a really good start and then the last two episodes maybe they felt a bit rushed or maybe they weren't sure what they were doing, but there was a lot of things competing pulled together at the end.
- 26:22[SPEAKER_00]: It feels weird to talk about it as an era.
- 26:24[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like it's only just started and it's already.
- 26:27[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, shoot a gap with the only doctor since one again, not to face the Daleks on the screen, although I'm sure he will at some point in audio or something.
- 26:39[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a mixed bag.
- 26:40[SPEAKER_00]: I know some people hate it.
- 26:41[SPEAKER_00]: People hate it that still watch it.
- 26:44[SPEAKER_00]: And Russell T. Davis gets a lot of flack.
- 26:46[SPEAKER_00]: I do think that I like the fact that he does put his standpoint.
- 26:50[SPEAKER_00]: He makes it feel like if this was in someone else's hands, it would be different.
- 26:54[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of liked that.
- 26:55[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want stuff that's very cookie cutter.
- 26:58[SPEAKER_00]: And I know the stick you can still argue that there are things that are repeated from
- 27:02[SPEAKER_00]: from maybe his classic era but he definitely does it his way and I think it feel like he does have something to say in certain episodes as well which I do want a bit of that in my sci-fi I do want a little bit of commentary on the outside world so it was I enjoyed it it had the most bonkers ending so I literally said no way when the final shot appeared which will probably talk about the end
- 27:29[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it'll be interesting to see where it goes.
- 27:31[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I did think this would be the last series as well.
- 27:34[SPEAKER_00]: So I did think they would end, but I think that is definitely not going to be the case now.
- 27:39[SPEAKER_00]: There will at least be something.
- 27:40[SPEAKER_00]: Even if it's one more special, there will definitely be one more thing.
- 27:44[SPEAKER_00]: But I think they'll probably get the BBC will probably find another kind of partner for it.
- 27:49[SPEAKER_00]: If Disney don't stump up the money, although maybe they were, and they'll just stump up not as much as before we don't know.
- 27:59[SPEAKER_04]: Um, there's an outsider, or really to a newcomer, how funds are to do?
- 28:04[SPEAKER_04]: Did you, did you, did this make any sense to you this show?
- 28:08[SPEAKER_04]: Or did you, you watched a few episodes?
- 28:10[SPEAKER_04]: What was your take on, on Doctor Who, or what you saw experienced of it anyway?
- 28:16[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, basically I have started with this two seasons of Goody Gadbad as the doctor.
- 28:25[SPEAKER_03]: Those are the ones that I have watched.
- 28:27[SPEAKER_03]: I enjoyed very much.
- 28:30[SPEAKER_03]: I enjoyed very much this show because it's very different from any other show, basically that's on TV.
- 28:37[SPEAKER_03]: It's, or streaming.
- 28:41[SPEAKER_03]: It's quite imaginative.
- 28:48[SPEAKER_03]: It's, each episode can be totally different from the previous ones.
- 28:56[SPEAKER_03]: Almost like a movie, a mini movie, itself, and it's lots of fantasy, but also science fiction, and it has this
- 29:08[SPEAKER_03]: It's very big in scope, but it doesn't have, it kind of knows that the audience doesn't expect that everything is going to be like amazing effects.
- 29:18[SPEAKER_03]: So it kind of plays a little bit with that.
- 29:22[SPEAKER_03]: And I find it, I don't know, I think it is tender, it's a tender series.
- 29:32[SPEAKER_03]: It's for everyone.
- 29:35[SPEAKER_03]: It has lots and lots and lots of diversity.
- 29:39[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone is included, especially I admire how many roles for older women, but I mean over fifty or even sixty, so they are represented in different roles.
- 29:54[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know, it's just
- 29:59[SPEAKER_03]: It has a little bit of everything in tone, tone wise also.
- 30:05[SPEAKER_03]: And if you may not like one episode a lot, do you know that maybe the next one you will like it a lot?
- 30:15[SPEAKER_03]: I like how you never know what to expect or when in history or what planet we be or
- 30:26[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know, I think it's just a triumph of British imagination, I would say.
- 30:37[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a bit of a pick and make certainly even more so in this.
- 30:41[SPEAKER_04]: series.
- 30:41[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, if you don't even like this doctor, you know, we can just go to the back catalog and how we record the other doctors that's spanning from nineteen sixties even.
- 30:50[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, that's the whole point.
- 30:52[SPEAKER_04]: When things, that's the whole, I think it's time of gravity or series in the passes, you know, help it.
- 31:00[SPEAKER_04]: It's that it changes.
- 31:02[SPEAKER_04]: the face of the doctor or the actor playing it like Chris and everyone finds their own groove or era and so it goes like that.
- 31:11[SPEAKER_04]: I think maybe with this one it will happen as well.
- 31:16[SPEAKER_04]: I think it will go to rest for a bit and then
- 31:23[SPEAKER_04]: we'll see what happens.
- 31:25[SPEAKER_04]: It always gets reinvented with a new actor and actress taking on the role.
- 31:29[SPEAKER_04]: So I think that's probably why it's not a goodbye goodbye for a while with this series, but we have Disney money or not.
- 31:38[SPEAKER_04]: I think it actually strength is in the less money it has, the more it kind of
- 31:44[SPEAKER_04]: Dou was down digs down into a kind of like a counter drama or tense, you know, you can go from horror to comedy to fast to different genres, fantasy, sci-fi and all that.
- 31:56[SPEAKER_04]: And that's when you really have to go
- 32:00[SPEAKER_04]: and lean on the writing there, and sometimes are the best episodes.
- 32:03[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 32:03[SPEAKER_04]: There was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:04[SPEAKER_04]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:05[SPEAKER_04]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:08[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:08[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:09[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:10[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:11[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:13[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:14[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:15[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:16[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:17[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:18[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:19[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:20[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:22[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:23[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:24[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:25[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back then.
- 32:26[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a video back
- 32:28[SPEAKER_00]: But there is a connection which is the guy in the blue box turns up with a woman.
- 32:33[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're the connection.
- 32:35[SPEAKER_00]: But you can go from a historical to a futuristic.
- 32:39[SPEAKER_00]: I think they've made the distinguished, they've distinguished in the shooting gallery era.
- 32:44[SPEAKER_00]: between sci-fi and fancy a lot as well so it used to be kind of sci-fi fancy is one thing and now they're like no they do kind of like a hard sci-fi like in the boom episode which was probably the highlight the first series um but then they have this very fantastic element that they have with a toy maker in the last day with ten of one as well which is
- 33:03[SPEAKER_00]: like a more sort of magical sort of sense.
- 33:07[SPEAKER_00]: But you're right that you could have, often the first episode of a series will get a lot of traction from adults for being a big childish.
- 33:16[SPEAKER_00]: But I think there's a deliberate sense of doing that.
- 33:20[SPEAKER_00]: They've always done that even to the first brist of Acoustine David Tenant era.
- 33:26[SPEAKER_00]: They often have a very childish one to start with to try and bring the kids in, and then they go quite dark with the second ones, kind of, please the adults, and then they do something that's maybe a bit more serious on the third one.
- 33:38[SPEAKER_00]: And I watched the, at least, twenty years, because new who has been back, as we call it, back for twenty years.
- 33:44[SPEAKER_00]: And the one point they didn't really make about the new era.
- 33:48[SPEAKER_00]: as much as I loved the original it wasn't there wasn't really much emotion in it there was sort of some in jump hurts we zero when Joe Grant leaves and there was a little bit with Sarah Jane and Tom Baker tiny bit but there wasn't much emotion and as soon as you get to uh two thousand five with Equalston and Billy Piper there is a lot of emotion so there's an episode where she wants to go back and meet her
- 34:13[SPEAKER_00]: dead father and that straight away is like a really really emotional episode in the end of their series with like that and they've continued that throughout.
- 34:22[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's the biggest distinction for new who.
- 34:27[SPEAKER_00]: But with Stephen Moffett's era, I really love that he's very much more about the plot and the interconnectivity of very clever plot strands.
- 34:37[SPEAKER_00]: But I felt sometimes that they didn't have the difference in tone as much between the episodes.
- 34:42[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we Christianship know it kind of when even more so.
- 34:45[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's really good things go back to because it does become like a selection box.
- 34:50[SPEAKER_00]: Like you say, it's like when you, I tell people to watch black mirror.
- 34:54[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you can't watch one episode black mirror.
- 34:56[SPEAKER_00]: You have to watch at least two at absolutely two because you will have a completely different experience watching one.
- 35:03[SPEAKER_00]: to another and I feel like Dr. He when it's it is strongest is it does the same thing okay um you want to mention the final
- 35:13[SPEAKER_04]: reveal at this end game.
- 35:16[SPEAKER_00]: So in terms of this and to clarify, I'll put, say, out loud what I've put in the chat for Richard, but yeah, so she to get where doctors also, when they die, they regenerate into a new act, right?
- 35:29[SPEAKER_00]: And Disney, the way said that they would pull funds, I think it's twenty three episodes, there's a spin-off coming, called between the land and the sea.
- 35:38[SPEAKER_00]: which I think is a fight, it might even be a five-part series, which is a spin-off in the unit thing, but they're going to sell fun that stuff and they get the back catalog.
- 35:46[SPEAKER_00]: They always said they wouldn't make a decision about recommissioning or refunding until after the show had ended.
- 35:51[SPEAKER_00]: So you're in this odd situation where
- 35:55[SPEAKER_00]: They can't feel.
- 35:56[SPEAKER_00]: This was filmed like a year ago.
- 35:57[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny because in the UK there were stories about the BBC of Satchewy Gapwork because the site had been last week.
- 36:03[SPEAKER_00]: The behind the scenes show that he left the series last year and they've kept this under wraps.
- 36:08[SPEAKER_00]: So they filmed his final episodes.
- 36:11[SPEAKER_00]: But and I know from someone who knows people who work on it that they haven't been shooting.
- 36:16[SPEAKER_00]: So they sort of in a position now, even if Disney say tonight, right, let's green like this, they've then got a film in the entire series and it'll take a year to do it.
- 36:26[SPEAKER_00]: So they're in a situation where they can't keep an actor, which has never happened before.
- 36:29[SPEAKER_00]: And they can't really hire a new actor.
- 36:31[SPEAKER_00]: We've always known who the next doctor's going to be.
- 36:35[SPEAKER_00]: So at the end of the episode, Shootie Gat was face glows.
- 36:38[SPEAKER_00]: He says it's been a joy.
- 36:39[SPEAKER_00]: He burst with energy.
- 36:41[SPEAKER_00]: And I assumed it would stop there and we wouldn't know who he'd regenerate it into.
- 36:46[SPEAKER_00]: And he regenerates into Billy Piper, the companion from the first episode.
- 36:51[SPEAKER_00]: And that is when I shouted, no way!
- 36:54[SPEAKER_00]: And I really wish I was watching it in cinema.
- 36:56[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those moments that you're like, what does this mean?
- 36:59[SPEAKER_00]: I do think now, interestingly, usually when they do this, they put
- 37:05[SPEAKER_00]: and introduce on the cast, they would usually put, should get with a doctor and introducing new actor as the doctor.
- 37:13[SPEAKER_00]: It does say an introducing Billy Piper, but it doesn't say as the doctor, which makes me think she is Rose still from the original series.
- 37:21[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she is the new doctor.
- 37:25[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they will do a special with her, which will then introduce the new doctor.
- 37:30[SPEAKER_00]: I think even logistically,
- 37:33[SPEAKER_00]: by the time you watch the new episode, we will know who the new got to read.
- 37:36[SPEAKER_00]: But I think they're in a position now where they can't, they can't hire someone and not know when the start date of the show is going to be because if it's done with BBC money, it's going to be a very different show or a slightly different show to what it would be if it was funded with Disney money.
- 37:52[SPEAKER_00]: But I think unlike neighbors, which is another one of my childhood favorite shows from the eighties,
- 37:59[SPEAKER_00]: That's been asked.
- 38:00[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody wants to fund that because it's an outdated thing.
- 38:03[SPEAKER_00]: I think Netflix or Amazon would gladly step up to co-fund this if Disney don't want to.
- 38:09[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think they'll struggle to find some form of co-partner in it.
- 38:13[SPEAKER_00]: But I think realistically the earliest we're going to get a next series.
- 38:19[SPEAKER_00]: is probably, I mean, twenty twenty seven feels like early to be honest, maybe we'll get a Christmas special out here.
- 38:26[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's probably going to be a couple of years before we see another full series, but maybe a Billy Piper special tied us over.
- 38:34[SPEAKER_00]: Have you got a theory on this?
- 38:36[SPEAKER_00]: What's happened Jason with Billy Piper appearing?
- 38:39[SPEAKER_04]: I think there was some talk on now.
- 38:43[SPEAKER_04]: There was a lot of pigeon these last two episodes in the background little story books because apparently it's the whole world is one according to an narrative of someone reading stories and so forth.
- 38:56[SPEAKER_04]: But in the background apparently there are little story books of the rose and something.
- 39:03[SPEAKER_04]: It was actually in today, apparently if you're egoid viewers watching and
- 39:07[SPEAKER_04]: one says the Pandora Kern and so forth.
- 39:10[SPEAKER_04]: So there was hints after the fact you were realized, when you were looking back, oh my god yeah, he's telling you that the Rose will be making the period or something linked to that.
- 39:20[SPEAKER_04]: I know there was the fifty-fender verse, which had the appearance of Billy Piper in the form of a AI for a weapon.
- 39:30[SPEAKER_04]: I will back to AI, but I'm wondering if it seems to come stop.
- 39:36[SPEAKER_04]: AI or program went to tea that is her face and so forth but it is a I think it is I think even some interviews with Piper she says it is because for her it was she was glad just to do it and then but there's no kind of long-term plans if her it's more like a one-shot what's going to be and then in this special shit she's more of a stepping stone to whoever the new actor is but I think it's just a good step
- 40:04[SPEAKER_04]: You know, kind of stop gap mechanism until they find someone who wants to leave a doctor and all what direction this series
- 40:12[SPEAKER_04]: goes in and when, quite honestly, that's the biggest mystery, really, of not a doctor who but a doctor when and it's going to, that's the, it's more interesting now, it's happening with film production and Disney and BBC, what's when it will happen, but it will be years in the making.
- 40:29[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I think we have such a lot of loose friends in those last two episodes, you had
- 40:34[SPEAKER_04]: the granddaughter they're appearing there and I think there was some rumors that it was re-shot here and there, the ending, or the story, Fred.
- 40:42[SPEAKER_04]: So it's something that it's, well, for stopgap and then watch the space, but it is, what happens next?
- 40:53[SPEAKER_04]: I have no idea, honestly.
- 40:57[SPEAKER_04]: But I think, yeah, that's the real mystery now this show.
- 41:02[SPEAKER_04]: Where does it go and what a forming takes?
- 41:08[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, yes, but yeah, I will just watch the space as you say.
- 41:13[SPEAKER_04]: Right, next.
- 41:15[SPEAKER_04]: Now lastly, James, you caught a twenty-fifth anniversary of, I suppose you could say another long running
- 41:26[SPEAKER_00]: film, property, the X. Well, yeah, twenty years in the whole, but twenty five years since the first X-Men film, which in a way is like the start of the modern superhero movie.
- 41:40[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
- 41:41[SPEAKER_00]: really.
- 41:42[SPEAKER_00]: And also sort of retroactively to start the MCU now.
- 41:46[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what was I in mind, but because these characters are now part of it, you could argue that.
- 41:52[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, this come out to thousand and I watched it in the same cinema the other week that I watched it in all those years ago, maybe even in the same screen I can't remember.
- 42:03[SPEAKER_00]: And I was pretty impressed really by how well it held up.
- 42:05[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously things have moved on slightly to set the sort of, if you think of the environment this come out in.
- 42:07[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously we had had superhero movies, noticeably the Batman film started really well in the late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late
- 42:30[SPEAKER_00]: You then had in the United States seven, you then get a couple years later, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States,
- 42:54[SPEAKER_00]: Tim Burton's Batman Returns, you know, very well critically received maybe audiences felt it was a bit too dark Batman forever and then it crashes with Batman and Robin.
- 43:04[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where we were at in nineteen ninety seven and it feels like superhero movies are maybe over and they're a joke now because of Batman and Robin.
- 43:13[SPEAKER_00]: And then, in two thousand, you get X-Men, which I think the probably the best known thing in the UK was the animated TV series.
- 43:21[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, people would have been into the coins, but the animated TV series was really, was a known thing, and also the arcade game to ninety ninety two.
- 43:30[SPEAKER_00]: But you get this take, which is very,
- 43:34[SPEAKER_00]: you know, people sort of say, oh, it's a darker take, but it is, you know, the costumes aren't like Gary's.
- 43:39[SPEAKER_00]: There's even a joke in there about what would you prefer, yellow, spandex, but you get these group of mutants headed up with you, Jackman, who I think was a late, late casting choice, because the original actor dropped out.
- 43:54[SPEAKER_00]: And he's really the, he's the leader this, and he's fantastic.
- 43:57[SPEAKER_00]: I think Patrick Stewart is probably top-field, and then Ian McKellen, and then him, maybe.
- 44:04[SPEAKER_00]: There's really great shot at the start where Patrick Stewart is talking to me in Mackellen and Ian Mackellen's completely silhouetted.
- 44:12[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember that shot when I originally watched it.
- 44:15[SPEAKER_00]: And it sort of jumps out, because a lot of us just weren't generally that well shot at the time.
- 44:20[SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't that much thought putting to the shots, but it looks like a shot from a comic book.
- 44:26[SPEAKER_00]: It really does, but it feels cinematic.
- 44:29[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't feel out of place.
- 44:31[SPEAKER_00]: It feels really
- 44:33[SPEAKER_00]: well done, and you've got this really compelling story.
- 44:37[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think really like Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, and Anna Patquin, acting their socks off in this movie, like it is Shakespeare.
- 44:49[SPEAKER_00]: And Anna Patquin is screaming like she is terrified in the scenes where she needs to be doing that.
- 44:54[SPEAKER_00]: And not everybody does that with green screen acting and CG acting and sci-fi.
- 44:59[SPEAKER_00]: I think people do turn up and forget.
- 45:01[SPEAKER_00]: to actually play it for real.
- 45:06[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it holds up really well.
- 45:08[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, it's like a hundred minutes as well, which you can't imagine a comic book movie being a hundred minutes now, but it packs a lot in.
- 45:19[SPEAKER_00]: I saw it not that long ago, a couple of years ago, after the Fox merger with Disney, and there was all the talk about when the X-Men gonna come in and actually we thought they'd have come in
- 45:31[SPEAKER_00]: By now, I know that they have been in post credit stuff, but there was talk about when are the X-Men going to arrive at the MCU.
- 45:38[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember what rewatching X-Men one thinking, this reboot won't work because what the film is about is about outsiders and differences and the world is a lot more inclusive now.
- 45:54[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think this will work.
- 45:56[SPEAKER_00]: And pressingly,
- 45:59[SPEAKER_00]: But that has changed since I lost all the film.
- 46:02[SPEAKER_00]: And I think some of the things that have been happening in the world made this film feel really relevant again.
- 46:10[SPEAKER_00]: And actually, it's a sort of a double it's, well, obviously, not a double it's all, but you know, it's going to be one of those things that actually, when they do we do it, I think if they do it, why there are things in the real world that they could lean into that make this film make sense.
- 46:26[SPEAKER_00]: But that was one of the sort of
- 46:28[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, things that I took from the film watching it this way this time is how things have changed in a very short space of time it feels and have maybe gone backwards.
- 46:38[SPEAKER_00]: But as a piece of entertainment, I think it stands up really well.
- 46:42[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of practical effects in it.
- 46:46[SPEAKER_00]: They all really well done and people are treating, they're just a couple of jokes in it but it's really treated with a gravitas that it needs a bit like really with Thunderbolts that there's enough in it or jokes in Thunderbolts.
- 47:01[SPEAKER_00]: But the emotional stuff they took seriously, that's the fine line you've got to walk, I think we super hero movies, you can't just make it all joky because it becomes meaningless.
- 47:11[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's a really good template they'd said for what was like an unbroken twenty year.
- 47:18[SPEAKER_00]: period of pretty much every superhero movie been good.
- 47:22[SPEAKER_00]: I know there were some stinkers in that time, but we really had twenty years that was a golden age of superhero movies.
- 47:30[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it started with this movie, really.
- 47:33[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay.
- 47:34[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it's good.
- 47:36[SPEAKER_04]: I did hold up actually.
- 47:39[SPEAKER_04]: I just say it's a lot of good performances.
- 47:40[SPEAKER_04]: I think it really comes down to those really strong Superhero in the genre.
- 47:49[SPEAKER_04]: It really leans on the strength of a central or a few performances in there.
- 47:54[SPEAKER_04]: And you've got such as a great cast and very accomplished actors in there.
- 47:59[SPEAKER_04]: So you can see the confidence already in that.
- 48:04[SPEAKER_04]: And it's DNA already.
- 48:06[SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, that brings us to this episode and this episode of this one.
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