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- 0:02Speaker 1: When I'll come on sty Oh it is Mica and Boa.
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- 0:22Speaker 3: I wish I was Boopy Boopy MacLean man. It's a
- 0:25Speaker 3: great name.
- 0:25Speaker 5: Oh the Bone.
- 0:42Speaker 6: Good morning, Charlotte, Welcome aboard. It is time for the
- 0:46Speaker 6: day after the LaMelo trade deal. Here on the Mack
- 0:49Speaker 6: and Bone Show. We got about a half hour in
- 0:51Speaker 6: yesterday when the news broke live on the air and
- 0:54Speaker 6: we had to deal live with the shock of Lamello
- 0:57Speaker 6: actually being traded. I don't know if we dealt extremely
- 1:00Speaker 6: well with it. We have all been able to sleep
- 1:04Speaker 6: through it, not through it, but you know what I mean,
- 1:06Speaker 6: we slept overnight, didn't we?
- 1:07Speaker 4: Most less, maybe some of you didn't.
- 1:09Speaker 6: It's the next day and we want to know are
- 1:12Speaker 6: people still furious? I mean, we had people texting in
- 1:16Speaker 6: saying that they just canceled their season tickets live on
- 1:19Speaker 6: the air. I can only imagine what the season ticket
- 1:23Speaker 6: you know, phone lines were like over there, but in
- 1:26Speaker 6: an amazing twist. The national media is probably ninety percent
- 1:31Speaker 6: in favor of the Hornets in the trade.
- 1:34Speaker 4: Oh my god. So we got to talk through that.
- 1:37Speaker 6: What's the disconnect between fans and the media nationally on
- 1:42Speaker 6: this deal? We will talk through that. The US loses
- 1:46Speaker 6: in dramatic fashion last night to Turkey a last minute
- 1:50Speaker 6: of stoppage time.
- 1:51Speaker 4: Do we care?
- 1:53Speaker 6: Mauricio Pachettino reminded the media about four times we won
- 1:57Speaker 6: the group, and he said, you're not congratulating for winning
- 2:01Speaker 6: our group. So he said, Turkey is going home on
- 2:04Speaker 6: a flight and we won our group. Is it as
- 2:07Speaker 6: simple as that? Or are there things that should bother
- 2:10Speaker 6: rushrom last night's match. We'll talk about that here off
- 2:13Speaker 6: the top a little bit as well. Kobe White resigns
- 2:15Speaker 6: that that Domino or he's going to re sign that
- 2:18Speaker 6: domino fell right after the Lamello news and a local
- 2:24Speaker 6: TV reporter reports that we are in contact with the
- 2:29Speaker 6: Boston Celtics about one Jalen Brown. So we had a
- 2:33Speaker 6: lot of things to talk about here today on the
- 2:36Speaker 6: Mac and Bone Show, The Bone Man in the House,
- 2:39Speaker 6: The Fit Dog in the House on a Friday, So
- 2:42Speaker 6: much to talk about what's a bone?
- 2:44Speaker 4: How you feeling? What's up with you? Good set up.
- 2:46Speaker 3: There, I'm feeling okay, feeling all right. I think I'm
- 2:49Speaker 3: more measured and relaxed than yesterday. To some degree, I'm
- 2:54Speaker 3: okay if I had a little time to process. It's
- 2:56Speaker 3: still shocking, no doubt, it's kind of numbing, but I'm
- 3:00Speaker 3: I'm okay, Mac, And I also feel better knowing that
- 3:03Speaker 3: we no longer have to deal with this man. Because
- 3:06Speaker 3: I just saw when you were talking my number one
- 3:09Speaker 3: news story on Twitter right now, LaVar ball urges Minnesota
- 3:14Speaker 3: to sign all three sons.
- 3:16Speaker 4: Oh there you go, good lord.
- 3:17Speaker 3: So here's a minute audio here Mack waiting for you
- 3:20Speaker 3: of Vavar pleading with Minnesota. He said, you can go
- 3:23Speaker 3: get Wonzo for nothing, Jevo for nothing, and the ball
- 3:27Speaker 3: boys together never lost.
- 3:30Speaker 4: Wonder Monsota that's on you now.
- 3:31Speaker 6: Wonder why you can get them for nothing, LeVar, Oh
- 3:34Speaker 6: my god, to play that at some point, Minnesota, good
- 3:36Speaker 6: luck with that and Mellows driving. Okay, There'll be plenty
- 3:40Speaker 6: of good things LaMelo will do for you, but good
- 3:43Speaker 6: luck with all that stuff right there. Yeah, I've been
- 3:45Speaker 6: wondering when Big Baller is going to weigh in, So
- 3:49Speaker 6: I'm glad to hear we got big baller chiming in.
- 3:52Speaker 6: There also is an amazing and I don't know do
- 3:54Speaker 6: you know who we credit for this? I saw it
- 3:56Speaker 6: on barstool, the amazing man on the street and the
- 3:59Speaker 6: man his car Audio in Charlotte right by the arena.
- 4:03Speaker 6: Yesterday CARBONI, Oh was that from CARBONI and CNC Yeah,
- 4:07Speaker 6: blew up yesterday. It went from Carboni to everywhere yesterday
- 4:10Speaker 6: it went national. This duw was losing his mind. I mean,
- 4:14Speaker 6: I think every Hornets fan sounded like that wherever they.
- 4:16Speaker 4: Were hanging out his window. But this dude lost his mind.
- 4:19Speaker 6: Man in his car bat LaMelo being traded and it
- 4:22Speaker 6: went viral to hilarious CARBONI. That is tremendous work man.
- 4:26Speaker 6: When did CARBONI just go car to car and see
- 4:27Speaker 6: if he can get some reactions?
- 4:28Speaker 4: I think so.
- 4:29Speaker 3: Yeah, when we see yah I like that street, he says,
- 4:31Speaker 3: people are not happy. It's now got one million views
- 4:35Speaker 3: on there, So congrats to CARBONI. We that guy might
- 4:38Speaker 3: have been the guy calling us yesterday.
- 4:39Speaker 4: That might be Royal.
- 4:40Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, Royal man, Royal. That guy was hilarious.
- 4:44Speaker 3: We had a guy if you guys miss yesterday, Oh
- 4:46Speaker 3: Rob the phone lines for the first time in about
- 4:47Speaker 3: three months, and a guy just jumped McK and I
- 4:50Speaker 3: in the first call.
- 4:51Speaker 6: No, it was like, welcome back to the phone lines.
- 4:54Speaker 6: I've been waiting. This dude was like waiting in the weeds.
- 4:57Speaker 4: That guy's been calling.
- 4:58Speaker 6: Every day waiting for the phone. God bless that man.
- 5:02Speaker 6: That was entertaining, though, I'm sure for everybody. All right,
- 5:05Speaker 6: So yeah, Michael set I don't know if you saw
- 5:07Speaker 6: a bone on Twitter last night, but Sham's had a
- 5:09Speaker 6: tweet that said that the sounds familiar. The Celtics are
- 5:15Speaker 6: engaged in trade talks about Jalen Brown with multiple teams,
- 5:19Speaker 6: and then Michael set quote tweeted it. He's from Queen
- 5:21Speaker 6: City News and he's had a little bit of a
- 5:23Speaker 6: history with some good Hornet scoops.
- 5:25Speaker 3: He's been reporting on lamelow for a while for a
- 5:27Speaker 3: couple of years about stuff going.
- 5:29Speaker 6: He said, sources tell me the Hornets are one of
- 5:33Speaker 6: these teams. So they have a forty one million dollar
- 5:36Speaker 6: trade exception, the biggest one in NBA history, which means
- 5:39Speaker 6: you could trade for somebody and you could take that
- 5:41Speaker 6: much salary in and it doesn't count against you don't
- 5:45Speaker 6: have to have the deal salaries balanced, and you could
- 5:48Speaker 6: take forty one million dollars a salary in it doesn't
- 5:50Speaker 6: count against your cap. It's a huge luxury. And there's
- 5:54Speaker 6: a ton of players they could bring in. Hell, they
- 5:55Speaker 6: could bring in two players and use that forty one
- 5:58Speaker 6: million spread over two deals. Jalen Brown doesn't get you
- 6:01Speaker 6: a whole contract, but it gets you a lot of it.
- 6:04Speaker 4: So the plot thickens bow.
- 6:06Speaker 3: I have some thoughts on that, and I was thinking, man,
- 6:09Speaker 3: what would it take to get Jalen Brown? And I
- 6:12Speaker 3: know yesterday we said, hey, it might be forty two
- 6:14Speaker 3: pickswaps might be Brandon Miller. But then I started thinking, man,
- 6:17Speaker 3: Tatum and Miller did they kind of roam the same plane?
- 6:21Speaker 3: Would they want? Would they want Brandon Miller? I have
- 6:24Speaker 3: a feeling this is just my sense of what they
- 6:27Speaker 3: would ask for, not what I would do. I think
- 6:30Speaker 3: they would probably ask for con first before Brandon Miller,
- 6:33Speaker 3: because there's that Larry Bird presence there. It's the shooter
- 6:37Speaker 3: in Boston. I wonder if they would at least ask
- 6:39Speaker 3: for con from Jalen Brown. That's what I think they
- 6:41Speaker 3: would do. Yeah, that's interesting. I think Brandon Miller and
- 6:44Speaker 3: Tatum are kind of not exactly the same, but they're
- 6:48Speaker 3: a little bit similar to each other.
- 6:49Speaker 4: You're saying Miller and Brown. I'm sorry, Miller and Miller
- 6:52Speaker 4: and Tatum. Excuse me? Would they want Miller with Tatum? Oh,
- 6:56Speaker 4: you're saying for the Celtics or the Celtics.
- 6:58Speaker 3: Okay, they asked for Miller because these kind of similar
- 7:01Speaker 3: to Tatum. Would they be content with that or are
- 7:02Speaker 3: they gonna say no, we want we want to pair
- 7:05Speaker 3: con If this is the case with.
- 7:07Speaker 4: Tatum, yeah, they definitely. I did ask that. I think
- 7:09Speaker 4: that's possible.
- 7:11Speaker 6: And then we see how much the city loves Con
- 7:13Speaker 6: because you're getting a dude that was a legit MVP
- 7:16Speaker 6: candidate average twenty eight points a game and plays amazing
- 7:18Speaker 6: defense too, by the way, on the wing. And I'm
- 7:23Speaker 6: curious how Hornets fans would answer that question. But there
- 7:27Speaker 6: are a lot of possibilities. They clear up cap room,
- 7:30Speaker 6: they got the huge trade exception, they got more draft assets,
- 7:33Speaker 6: the pick swaps. The more I read about the pick swaps,
- 7:36Speaker 6: the more I'm kind of like, ah, I don't really
- 7:38Speaker 6: know if this is going to amount to a ton,
- 7:41Speaker 6: although it feels like Jeff Peterson is kind of betting
- 7:43Speaker 6: on Minnesota. Maybe maybe Jeff Peterson's betting on LaMelo to
- 7:47Speaker 6: not stay healthy, and you know that's why he wanted
- 7:51Speaker 6: to trade them. And then maybe the Hornets are betting
- 7:55Speaker 6: on that lack of LaMelo health making Minnesota maybe worse
- 7:59Speaker 6: than Charlotte. And then maybe the pick swaps work out.
- 8:03Speaker 6: So there's a lot going on. There's a lot to
- 8:05Speaker 6: digest Peterson also to talk about. Peterson is also so
- 8:09Speaker 6: pick active. Who knows in the time what picks we
- 8:12Speaker 6: may have or won't have in future. The NBA's wild
- 8:15Speaker 6: these picks, So who even knows in future years what
- 8:17Speaker 6: we may have and not have. We have twelve first
- 8:20Speaker 6: round picks over the next seven years, and we are
- 8:23Speaker 6: not getting them to just draft twelve players over the
- 8:28Speaker 6: next seven years exactly. He has not pulled any punches
- 8:31Speaker 6: when he has told you, we will know when it's
- 8:33Speaker 6: time to make the big deal. They made a big
- 8:36Speaker 6: deal here, but they haven't made the big deal yet
- 8:39Speaker 6: in terms of acquisition. The trade exception. By the way,
- 8:42Speaker 6: I didn't know this.
- 8:42Speaker 4: I try.
- 8:43Speaker 6: I had to learn a lot about the trade exception stuff.
- 8:46Speaker 4: It's a voucher for one year. You lose it after
- 8:50Speaker 4: one year. Yep.
- 8:51Speaker 6: So the thought bone about, Man, they're gonna sit on
- 8:53Speaker 6: that for a while. No, they can't sit on that
- 8:57Speaker 6: for a while. So there's something coming at some point,
- 9:03Speaker 6: and at least they're sniffing around reportedly the Jalen Brown thing.
- 9:06Speaker 6: If Michael Lasette is to believe then, like you said,
- 9:09Speaker 6: he he seems like he has a lot of sources there.
- 9:11Speaker 6: Kobe resigns for or he's going to resign reported three year,
- 9:16Speaker 6: seventy four million dollar deal. I would have paid him
- 9:19Speaker 6: that with LaMelo. That is just under the twenty five
- 9:22Speaker 6: million dollars a year. I kept saying, give him that
- 9:24Speaker 6: if you have to, And I would have paid him
- 9:27Speaker 6: that without LaMelo or with LaMelo. Now now without LaMelo,
- 9:31Speaker 6: and he's probably your starter, seems like a pretty good
- 9:33Speaker 6: deal to me. I've done quick too. That was good
- 9:36Speaker 6: work there. Well, clearly they they weren't trading LaMelo without
- 9:40Speaker 6: having a verbal agreement with Kobe, right yep. I mean
- 9:44Speaker 6: it'd be Ignoramisis for doing that. Some people think they're
- 9:47Speaker 6: ingoramas Is for just trading LaMelo. So we'll talk through
- 9:50Speaker 6: this whole thing today because I realized Buhen we reacted yesterday,
- 9:56Speaker 6: but it was only about nine twenty something to ten o'clock,
- 10:00Speaker 6: so there's a lot of our audience.
- 10:01Speaker 4: I hadn't heard our reaction.
- 10:03Speaker 6: Our reactions probably have changed a little bit from the
- 10:06Speaker 6: oh my god, they really did this and they only
- 10:09Speaker 6: got like my thing was. Some people call it a
- 10:12Speaker 6: great package. I'm talking trade here. I've never heard of us.
- 10:17Speaker 6: I'm settled down, everybody. I'm just talking trade. What we
- 10:19Speaker 6: got back. I always hear they should have got more.
- 10:21Speaker 6: Some people call it a great package, but we only
- 10:27Speaker 6: got one new first round pick, and that's seven years away.
- 10:31Speaker 3: Eighth grader. We have an eighth grader in the wings.
- 10:33Speaker 3: The other three. The other three are pick swaps, and
- 10:39Speaker 3: two of them are very convoluted where there's like multiple
- 10:42Speaker 3: teams involved. It's crazy, but I guess time will tell
- 10:46Speaker 3: how valuable those really are.
- 10:49Speaker 6: I do want to talk, and we'll get back to it.
- 10:50Speaker 6: We'll start to hear media reaction. It's funny timing. Jeff
- 10:55Speaker 6: Peterson and Schlotkin, Plotkin Chanel all had media events yesterday
- 11:00Speaker 6: where they were asked about this. So did they spill
- 11:03Speaker 6: the beans? On anything yesterday. We'll talk about that as well.
- 11:06Speaker 6: The US men's soccer team Bone. They make nine changes
- 11:11Speaker 6: last night. I knew they were making four, right. I
- 11:14Speaker 6: think we all had a good feeling they weren't going
- 11:16Speaker 6: to play the four guys with the yellow cards. But
- 11:19Speaker 6: they made nine changes. Only Pepe, who with flow Baligon
- 11:23Speaker 6: on a yellow card. You don't want to risk any
- 11:25Speaker 6: of these yellow card guys. They get another yellow card,
- 11:27Speaker 6: they can't play against Bosnia, which is now efficiently set
- 11:30Speaker 6: for next Wednesday. That match is officially set eight o'clock
- 11:32Speaker 6: next Wednesday. So I knew they were changing out four guys.
- 11:36Speaker 6: I did not expect the other five to be changed out,
- 11:38Speaker 6: Pepe and McKinney. They kept Weston McKinnie in the midfield.
- 11:42Speaker 6: They even changed the goalkeeper, which I'm not really in
- 11:45Speaker 6: love with. I feel like Freeze needs reps, you know,
- 11:48Speaker 6: So I don't know, I don't exactly love that personally.
- 11:51Speaker 6: But this was just a case of it didn't matter
- 11:54Speaker 6: if we won the match or lost the match. Although
- 11:57Speaker 6: you could clearly see Bone when they picked up their
- 11:59Speaker 6: perform rmans in the second half and Pachettino started making
- 12:03Speaker 6: some subs, you know, Desk and Freeman and guys that
- 12:06Speaker 6: got in there Tillman Like, you could see that they
- 12:11Speaker 6: were going forth then, but I'm not sure they much cared.
- 12:14Speaker 6: They wanted to get guys playing time that hadn't played,
- 12:19Speaker 6: and I think that makes total sense in case you
- 12:22Speaker 6: have injuries and need suspensions and need to play some
- 12:27Speaker 6: of these guys. But consequently, I think we found out
- 12:30Speaker 6: why some of the guys are backups.
- 12:32Speaker 3: Yeah said depth, there might might be an issue if
- 12:34Speaker 3: it was needed. However, I'm not too concerned about that
- 12:38Speaker 3: going forward. Hack of a finish on a last effort goal.
- 12:42Speaker 3: I mean, it was not what we wanted, but man,
- 12:44Speaker 3: it was a heck of a finish there by Turkey.
- 12:47Speaker 3: And I will say this, they didn't win the game
- 12:52Speaker 3: on the scoreboard, but to what you're saying about injuries, suspensions,
- 12:57Speaker 3: getting out in full, getting ready for Boston on Wednesday,
- 13:00Speaker 3: they almost won the game and in the fact away because
- 13:03Speaker 3: they got out of there without any problems. So yeah,
- 13:05Speaker 3: the score is one thing, but they are now in
- 13:08Speaker 3: full for Bosnia and they're arrested, they're ready to go,
- 13:10Speaker 3: so that in itself could be considered a win for
- 13:13Speaker 3: last night.
- 13:13Speaker 6: Had Turkey A wins three to in a late stoppage
- 13:16Speaker 6: time goal literally like the last literally last kick of
- 13:18Speaker 6: the game. Essentially, I do think it's obvious that our
- 13:24Speaker 6: center back depth is not good. I mean, I think
- 13:27Speaker 6: we kind of knew this, but watching McKenzie and Miles
- 13:31Speaker 6: Robinson play together, those two first half goals, to me
- 13:34Speaker 6: were a real reminder that if we don't have Richard's
- 13:39Speaker 6: and reim that it's a little dicey back there, there's
- 13:42Speaker 6: no doubt about it.
- 13:43Speaker 4: To me.
- 13:43Speaker 6: Some of the other depth guys I thought played really good.
- 13:46Speaker 6: Burholter I thought was just amazing. The goal was great,
- 13:49Speaker 6: his passing was great. And how about Christian Polisic. This
- 13:52Speaker 6: might be the most important thing is that Christian Polisic
- 13:54Speaker 6: got thirty plus minutes and looked very lively. Now, I
- 13:57Speaker 6: get nutmegged at the end leading to the final goal
- 14:00Speaker 6: that was pretty ugly, but in terms of like, he
- 14:03Speaker 6: looked great running up and down that left sideline, So
- 14:08Speaker 6: I think that is certainly big as well. But I
- 14:11Speaker 6: don't get the goalkeeper thing. I don't get why what
- 14:15Speaker 6: I mean, Matt Freeze to me needs one, Yeah, why
- 14:19Speaker 6: Matt Freeze? How many shots did Matt freeze really face
- 14:22Speaker 6: against Paraguay and Australia, whereas you know, Bone, Turkey a
- 14:27Speaker 6: was going to be was going to challenge the goalkeeper
- 14:30Speaker 6: and challenge the defense more. They have a bunch of
- 14:32Speaker 6: big club players. We knew they were going to play
- 14:35Speaker 6: with the ball more than teams like Australian Paraguay that
- 14:38Speaker 6: just sit back and then try to counter on you.
- 14:41Speaker 4: So this would have been a perfect game for me.
- 14:43Speaker 6: And you got a defense in front of him that,
- 14:46Speaker 6: unfortunately in the first half well actually on the final
- 14:49Speaker 6: goal too, allowed Turkey to get in these dangerous positions
- 14:52Speaker 6: that Paraguay and Australia never got in. And Turner on
- 14:56Speaker 6: that last goal, I mean he was far from alone
- 14:59Speaker 6: on this, but there was nobody at the back post.
- 15:02Speaker 6: But Turner tries to charge it and ball goes right
- 15:04Speaker 6: through his legs. But like I would have kept freezing there.
- 15:08Speaker 6: But then again, I'm reminded Bone that I coach kids
- 15:12Speaker 6: soccer and don't get paid a cent. Mauricio Pachettino is
- 15:16Speaker 6: one of the greatest managers in the world and gets
- 15:18Speaker 6: paid millions.
- 15:19Speaker 3: Yeah, but sure, you're right up there and you're you're
- 15:22Speaker 3: paid in uh hugs and hand.
- 15:23Speaker 4: Pounds in that matter, hugs hand pounds. So you not you?
- 15:27Speaker 3: So Bosnia Wednesday eight, right, that's the next game in
- 15:30Speaker 3: San Francisco, and stay on the West coast. Don't say
- 15:33Speaker 3: Levi Stadium. You're not allowed to say that. It's in
- 15:35Speaker 3: San Francisco's football park. Who do they play? I know
- 15:39Speaker 3: the bracket's not all set yet. What's the the matchup
- 15:42Speaker 3: we most likely play if we if we move on
- 15:44Speaker 3: from that game, the winner of that Egypt Belgium group
- 15:47Speaker 3: could be could be the matchup, and Belgium does not
- 15:51Speaker 3: look good at all, and Egypt may win that group.
- 15:54Speaker 3: But who's to say Egypt wins that group and wins
- 15:57Speaker 3: their next matchup, you know, against whoever they end up playing.
- 16:00Speaker 3: So but that is a strong possibility. There is a
- 16:02Speaker 3: strong possibility.
- 16:04Speaker 6: Bone matter of fact, I would say it's likely if
- 16:06Speaker 6: they beat Bosnia they will not have to play a
- 16:08Speaker 6: top fifteen team in the world until the quarterfinals. This path,
- 16:12Speaker 6: because I don't know. If you notice some of the
- 16:13Speaker 6: matchups that are developing, yep, dude, Brazil, Japan and Netherlands
- 16:19Speaker 6: Morocco are insane for top thirty. For around the thirty
- 16:23Speaker 6: two matchups like especially Netherlands. Morocco, like Netherlands won their
- 16:28Speaker 6: group in style and their reward is the number seventh
- 16:31Speaker 6: ranked team in the world in Morocco. So like we
- 16:34Speaker 6: I'm telling you this, this draw that we got, the
- 16:36Speaker 6: group that we were in, and the pathway Bone like
- 16:41Speaker 6: it's it's there's a ton of opportunity.
- 16:43Speaker 3: Man, what really is one of the World Cup observation
- 16:46Speaker 3: not in the direct US path per se right now.
- 16:49Speaker 3: But Germany doesn't look great either, man. Germany had that
- 16:53Speaker 3: great win right away seven to one of a Cursow,
- 16:56Speaker 3: then they got down and had to rally against Ivory Coast.
- 16:58Speaker 3: Ivory Coast has been all right, right, they'd a rally
- 17:01Speaker 3: in that game. And then Ecuador yesterday beats Germany. So
- 17:04Speaker 3: of all the powers, like I have not been impressed,
- 17:07Speaker 3: while Soccer Bone has not been impressed with the lose
- 17:10Speaker 3: your money.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Does that any translation they lost soccer Bone? No, no, no, no, no,
- 17:14Speaker 4: they did not. I've been staying away. I don't trust
- 17:16Speaker 4: Germany right now.
- 17:17Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think this is a you know, one
- 17:19Speaker 6: of their all time great teams by Andy Stretch. I
- 17:21Speaker 6: do think their group's pretty good though. Also that side
- 17:23Speaker 6: of cure style. Ivory Coast is good and Ecuador is
- 17:27Speaker 6: a good team. They had just not been playing well.
- 17:29Speaker 6: They got so screwed by the way on that first goal.
- 17:31Speaker 6: How the hell you kick him? How was Germany allowed
- 17:33Speaker 6: to kick a man in a face and then go
- 17:35Speaker 6: and score a goal? And that is not good? Doesn't
- 17:38Speaker 6: go to va r It's crazy, But they responded. They
- 17:41Speaker 6: didn't lose their cool.
- 17:42Speaker 4: They were quick.
- 17:42Speaker 6: Yet some South some teams from you know, South America,
- 17:46Speaker 6: lose their cool. They didn't lose their cool over that.
- 17:48Speaker 6: They got it. They got an equalizer immediately and then
- 17:51Speaker 6: they end up winning it.
- 17:51Speaker 3: So on that man they advanced. You mentioned yesterday how
- 17:54Speaker 3: cool to is to see the smaller countries. I don't
- 17:56Speaker 3: always have success, have moments like that. That was one
- 17:59Speaker 3: yesterday watching Ecuador do what they did. Mac soccer who's
- 18:02Speaker 3: got talent though, man don't put them in like sturdy
- 18:05Speaker 3: soccer bone. Soccer bone has a little bit of a
- 18:08Speaker 3: gripe though sometimes with these uniforms Germany really threw me
- 18:12Speaker 3: off yesterday, the blue uniforms that really I don't green.
- 18:16Speaker 3: There's that green, that green blue, I don't know that really.
- 18:18Speaker 3: When I put that game on, it took me a minute.
- 18:20Speaker 3: D I figure out who was Ecuador? Who's Germany?
- 18:23Speaker 7: There?
- 18:23Speaker 3: Momentarily, I will I will tell Gianni at FIFA, I
- 18:25Speaker 3: will let him know that soccer Bone is confused. Sometimes
- 18:28Speaker 3: they don't always put on the screen necessarily who's who
- 18:31Speaker 3: all the time. Every once in a while. Canada Switzerland
- 18:34Speaker 3: the other day had me bamboozoed for a couple of minutes.
- 18:37Speaker 6: If you look on the side of the score bug
- 18:39Speaker 6: at the top, you will see a line and it'll
- 18:41Speaker 6: be the color of the UH uniform. So like Canada
- 18:45Speaker 6: had a white line, Switzerland had the red line. See
- 18:47Speaker 6: there you go, soccer Bone.
- 18:49Speaker 3: You could see where like a nod soccer person per
- 18:53Speaker 3: se would be confused by Canadia Switzerland. And I didn't
- 18:55Speaker 3: have the volumequads, and I didn't have the volume up
- 18:58Speaker 3: on that game either, So I'm sitting there trying to
- 19:00Speaker 3: figure out, Oh my god, which team did I bet on?
- 19:05Speaker 4: Do I share that goal or not? That I don't
- 19:08Speaker 4: bet at all these games.
- 19:09Speaker 6: I have a gripe that field last night in La
- 19:13Speaker 6: that grass that they put down that makes I'm sure
- 19:15Speaker 6: all the RAMS players angry because they won't do it
- 19:17Speaker 6: for them and the Chargers players way too much slipping
- 19:20Speaker 6: on that field last night, and if the US go
- 19:23Speaker 6: of around to sixteen, that's where they're gonna play.
- 19:26Speaker 4: So that's not ideal. No pitch was cheeks.
- 19:32Speaker 6: Seriously, We're in the World Cup, We're in the biggest
- 19:35Speaker 6: competition of the world in the sport, and the field
- 19:37Speaker 6: that you put in there, I mean, guys were slip
- 19:40Speaker 6: sliding all over the place.
- 19:41Speaker 4: Man. So anyway, that's that kind of that's that don't
- 19:44Speaker 4: look good to me.
- 19:45Speaker 3: But anyway, when we come back, how was the reaction
- 19:48Speaker 3: to the LaMelo trade yesterday? We hear from some media
- 19:51Speaker 3: members and did local media get a word out of
- 19:54Speaker 3: schwotk In on the deal? They sure tried Sports Radio
- 19:58Speaker 3: ninety two seven WFNZ.
- 20:27Speaker 8: Basically, what Charlotte is looking at if they're looking at
- 20:29Speaker 8: a player who plays seventy two games this year and
- 20:31Speaker 8: it's got three years left and it is a part
- 20:33Speaker 8: of the future, or are we going to capitalize on
- 20:36Speaker 8: a really strong year for Charlotte team was one of
- 20:39Speaker 8: the best success stories after the second Earrison second half
- 20:43Speaker 8: of the season. Now, the interesting part is we've talked
- 20:46Speaker 8: about John Morant and now we're talking about LaMelo Ball.
- 20:49Speaker 8: Two potential point guards out there that are going to
- 20:52Speaker 8: be in.
- 20:53Speaker 9: Play Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ, that is
- 21:03Speaker 9: Bobby Marx.
- 21:04Speaker 6: Bobby mars Bone was one of numerous national media members
- 21:09Speaker 6: that liked the trade better for the Charlotte Hornets. I
- 21:12Speaker 6: saw four different draft grades done for this trades, like ESPN, CBS,
- 21:17Speaker 6: Bleach Report, and Yahoo. I think we're the four. Every
- 21:19Speaker 6: one of them gave the Hornets a better grade. So
- 21:22Speaker 6: it is so interesting to see the way the national
- 21:25Speaker 6: media feels about this trade. Oh, they've created cap space,
- 21:28Speaker 6: they added to their draft kitty, they which is loaded up.
- 21:33Speaker 6: They created the biggest trade exception in the history of
- 21:37Speaker 6: the league to go out and pursue another player and
- 21:39Speaker 6: not have his salary forty one million of account against
- 21:41Speaker 6: the cap. So they see the method to the madness
- 21:45Speaker 6: here and fans I think were emotional. We were in
- 21:49Speaker 6: love with last year's team. It's the first time we
- 21:52Speaker 6: had fun in like a decade, and that team was
- 21:54Speaker 6: so much fun. The youth, the style of play, the
- 21:57Speaker 6: offensive efficiency, and LaMelo was such a big part of
- 22:00Speaker 6: it that I just think we've been in our feelings
- 22:03Speaker 6: about it because we just finally had something fun happen.
- 22:08Speaker 6: We didn't want to see that end. But I think
- 22:12Speaker 6: if you could take a step back, and that's what
- 22:14Speaker 6: I'm curious, have people taking a step back over the
- 22:16Speaker 6: last day, I think you might be able to understand
- 22:19Speaker 6: the method. I'm thinking the Hornets believe LaMelo Ball will
- 22:24Speaker 6: be injured again. I honestly think that's what they think.
- 22:28Speaker 3: I think a lot of us, and us included yesterday
- 22:31Speaker 3: in the moment, have post traumatic basketball disorder around here
- 22:36Speaker 3: as well, where we always think the worst thing is
- 22:39Speaker 3: about to happen. So the immediate reaction of some was
- 22:43Speaker 3: sell tickets and then you know, you know, we're back
- 22:46Speaker 3: to twenty five wins, We're we're back to the bottom
- 22:49Speaker 3: of the Eastern Conference. I don't think right now at
- 22:51Speaker 3: Jeff Peterson we're going backwards. I think that if you
- 22:56Speaker 3: look at what he has both in players and assets,
- 23:00Speaker 3: it's going to still be a good basketball team. Mac
- 23:03Speaker 3: It'll just be a different deed will lose the entertainment
- 23:06Speaker 3: value of Mellow obviously and all that he does. But
- 23:09Speaker 3: I still think this is going to be a good
- 23:11Speaker 3: basketball team. And I'm saying that right now, and they're
- 23:14Speaker 3: not done yet I think when this is all said
- 23:16Speaker 3: and done, they might not be far from where they were.
- 23:19Speaker 3: It's just a different basketball team. So what you said
- 23:21Speaker 3: of the one we fell in love.
- 23:22Speaker 6: With you, I don't want to get a twisted if
- 23:23Speaker 6: they feel this current team right now they are not
- 23:26Speaker 6: as good as last year's team they saw. I've worked,
- 23:28Speaker 6: you had Kobe White coming off the bench. But I
- 23:30Speaker 6: do think there's a feeling that Miles Bridges will be traded.
- 23:34Speaker 6: I know the reports yesterday from Sean saying there is
- 23:36Speaker 6: a lot of interest in him, which is interesting. He's
- 23:39Speaker 6: going into the final year of his deal. That you've
- 23:42Speaker 6: added Nasried a player that how many of us brought
- 23:45Speaker 6: Nasri up specifically in the past when talking about what
- 23:48Speaker 6: kind of stretch for it would be nice to add.
- 23:50Speaker 4: To this team.
- 23:51Speaker 6: Now he's been a six man a six man a year.
- 23:54Speaker 6: He might be your starter now as Kobe's been a
- 23:57Speaker 6: was off the bench, he ups in starting role. But
- 24:00Speaker 6: there's they didn't want They didn't They didn't do this
- 24:04Speaker 6: and get this forty one million dollar trade exception to
- 24:06Speaker 6: let it go to the waste, Like there's something.
- 24:10Speaker 4: I think something sizable could be coming.
- 24:13Speaker 3: Isn't that right in the range of of Sibonis kind of.
- 24:17Speaker 6: Also, it's very close. It's almost Sibonis's full salary. It's
- 24:20Speaker 6: right there where it's like, is there. Yeah, that makes
- 24:23Speaker 6: a lot of sense. I thought we got so much
- 24:26Speaker 6: audio to play. I mean, you're gonna hear local reaction
- 24:29Speaker 6: from the streets, You're gonna hear uh, national, You're gonna
- 24:32Speaker 6: hear everything today, mag I thought Zach Woe, who we
- 24:35Speaker 6: may trust the most from the basketball standpoint of breaking
- 24:39Speaker 6: stuff down. He had the very interesting stuff yesterday about
- 24:42Speaker 6: a reason why the Hornets from basketball point of view,
- 24:45Speaker 6: may have said, we may need to make a change
- 24:47Speaker 6: here to get where we want to go. Well, why
- 24:49Speaker 6: don't we just hear that, then let's do that. About
- 24:51Speaker 6: that you asked for it, we give it.
- 24:53Speaker 4: To you, baby, John.
- 24:56Speaker 3: I'm like John Stotting, got my short shorts on, and
- 24:58Speaker 3: I gave Karl Malone to ro and then you're gonna
- 25:00Speaker 3: don't go over to Horny over here, Jeff Horner.
- 25:02Speaker 6: Saying, all right, so this is what you're talking about.
- 25:06Speaker 6: Zach Lowe thinks the Hornets don't trust necessarily the physicality
- 25:11Speaker 6: of LaMelo ball.
- 25:12Speaker 4: If you ask me, why did they do this.
- 25:15Speaker 1: I think it really comes down to a physical toughness
- 25:19Speaker 1: question that they have about LaMelo Ball that you watch
- 25:22Speaker 1: these playoff series Oklahoma City, San Antonio, San Antonio, New
- 25:27Speaker 1: York and you just envision like this is a dude
- 25:30Speaker 1: front runner is too strong of a term, fast and loose,
- 25:33Speaker 1: like when the game's fun, that's when he's at his best.
- 25:37Speaker 1: What are you going to do in game five zero
- 25:39Speaker 1: playoff series when Steph Castle has been in your jersey
- 25:42Speaker 1: for five straight games, when you're switching between Jalen Williams
- 25:45Speaker 1: and Cason Wallace and Alex Caruso bumping you physically, just
- 25:50Speaker 1: man handling you up and down the court, are you
- 25:52Speaker 1: actually game for that? Because if you're going to be
- 25:55Speaker 1: a serious team, that's what you gotta be. Gamed four
- 25:57Speaker 1: and I think this trade says yes, there's these ancillary
- 26:01Speaker 1: salary pick benefits and faith in Brandon Miller and Continent
- 26:04Speaker 1: Bull and all that. The Hornets know the numbers, they
- 26:07Speaker 1: know their offense wasn't good when LaMelo was on the bench.
- 26:09Speaker 1: They know all of that stuff, and they decided, they
- 26:12Speaker 1: decided anyway that we just don't think we can win
- 26:16Speaker 1: the biggest games with this guy on our team. I
- 26:18Speaker 1: think that's really what it boils down to.
- 26:20Speaker 4: There's no doubt.
- 26:21Speaker 6: When there's no doubt, teams as a strategy, if they're
- 26:26Speaker 6: really trying to stop LaMelo, they will really they really
- 26:29Speaker 6: try to get physical with them, There's no doubt about it.
- 26:31Speaker 4: And then the Orlando games part of that.
- 26:33Speaker 6: Although in the second half LaMelo had a lot of success,
- 26:36Speaker 6: he was far from the only guy who struggle with physicality.
- 26:38Speaker 6: Con and Brandon couldn't handle physicality either. Con probably wasn't
- 26:42Speaker 6: physically one hundred percent at the end of the year.
- 26:44Speaker 6: In fairness to him. I do want to say this though,
- 26:47Speaker 6: bone like LaMelo ball, his ability to create off the bounce,
- 26:53Speaker 6: attract the defense, and then guys like Miller and Kobe
- 26:58Speaker 6: and Con were in space, You're gonna lose that. You're
- 27:02Speaker 6: gonna lose that ability. Now all of a sudden, Brandon,
- 27:06Speaker 6: Miller and Con they probably got to do more on ball.
- 27:10Speaker 6: So this is a huge challenge for those guys. But
- 27:12Speaker 6: then again, we don't know who else is joining the team,
- 27:14Speaker 6: you know what I mean, So there's that part of
- 27:17Speaker 6: it as well.
- 27:18Speaker 3: It's an interesting way to look at it. And I
- 27:20Speaker 3: read what Zach Loow was saying, as they feel that
- 27:24Speaker 3: LaMelo can be really good to a certain point. Maybe
- 27:27Speaker 3: in the regular season he can get them to the
- 27:29Speaker 3: play and he can get them to a series. But
- 27:31Speaker 3: when you start looking at where they want to go
- 27:34Speaker 3: in a series against Detroit, where they're gonna man you
- 27:37Speaker 3: up physically, is that the guy they want in there?
- 27:39Speaker 3: The Knicks have a physical mindset. Even a team like
- 27:43Speaker 3: Miami with Davion Mitchell now they as the lead point guard.
- 27:46Speaker 3: There are some physical teams in the path when you
- 27:50Speaker 3: get to those series. Or the Hornets said, we like
- 27:52Speaker 3: Melo to a point, but if we want to go further,
- 27:55Speaker 3: we have to almost change a little bit how we
- 27:57Speaker 3: play the game.
- 27:58Speaker 4: Yeah, again, I keep going back to yesterday.
- 28:01Speaker 6: I'm not sure this brass was really ever fully sold
- 28:03Speaker 6: on LaMelo's health. They had to limit his minutes severely
- 28:07Speaker 6: boned to twenty eight minutes a game to get him
- 28:10Speaker 6: through it, and I'm not sure they think he's gonna
- 28:12Speaker 6: stay healthy. There could definitely be some of what you're saying,
- 28:15Speaker 6: like they're not trying to just get in there. They're
- 28:18Speaker 6: trying to build a team ultimately down the road. They're
- 28:20Speaker 6: also not press bone like the fans are we as fans,
- 28:23Speaker 6: and this is part of the reaction to the trade.
- 28:26Speaker 6: We as fans are like, how do you not try
- 28:28Speaker 6: to add to the core and make this a fifty
- 28:31Speaker 6: win team? We just had this amazing second half of
- 28:33Speaker 6: the season. How do you not try to build on it?
- 28:36Speaker 6: Whereas I don't think they're in near as much of
- 28:38Speaker 6: a hurry as we are. Right right, they are taking
- 28:41Speaker 6: their time and if we take a step back in
- 28:43Speaker 6: order to take two steps forward. I think the brass
- 28:46Speaker 6: is fine with that, whereas with us, it's like, man,
- 28:49Speaker 6: we just you finally put a product on the court.
- 28:51Speaker 6: We are excited about let's go, let's build that momentum.
- 28:55Speaker 6: So I think that's a part of the big I
- 28:56Speaker 6: don't think it's connected. But I don't think Jiff Peterson
- 28:58Speaker 6: is GMing under pressure. I think they know that dude
- 29:01Speaker 6: is good there and as safe as can be. He
- 29:03Speaker 6: knows he's got a plan. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna
- 29:05Speaker 6: make this move. I'm not I'm not under the pressure
- 29:07Speaker 6: that I have to win next year, two series or something.
- 29:10Speaker 6: He's confident, he's comfortable now where we feel like you
- 29:13Speaker 6: should win fifty games next year, and get a top
- 29:16Speaker 6: six seeds. By the way, what Miami did getting Giannis
- 29:19Speaker 6: and Haliburton coming back, this is gonna be tougher next year.
- 29:23Speaker 6: So depending on what kind of team we put out there.
- 29:25Speaker 6: I mean this, I don't know. Could be playing Villa again, honestly.
- 29:28Speaker 6: But but with that said, we got a lot of
- 29:30Speaker 6: resources to go out and bring in ballers if we
- 29:33Speaker 6: want to.
- 29:34Speaker 3: I want to get to Philadelphia. Is gonna be better
- 29:36Speaker 3: next year? Edgecombe year two, I'm tell having back See,
- 29:38Speaker 3: that's gonna be a heck of a backcore going forward.
- 29:40Speaker 3: I'm told this is the year MB's really healthy too,
- 29:43Speaker 3: speaking of guys that can't stay healthy. All right, let's
- 29:45Speaker 3: do use that trade on a beat here, No, let's
- 29:49Speaker 3: go to trading one injury prone guy and bringing in
- 29:52Speaker 3: another would be would be something that'd be a move.
- 29:54Speaker 4: All right? All right, let's get to the Minnesota side
- 29:56Speaker 4: of things. Uh KB.
- 29:58Speaker 6: Last night talk to John Zinski. He covers Minnesota for
- 30:03Speaker 6: Bone and I thought that was the guy that played
- 30:04Speaker 6: Jim Halpert on the Office. Turns out Bone he is
- 30:07Speaker 6: the guy that covers Minnesota for the Athletic and he
- 30:13Speaker 6: revealed that Minnesota's been trying for two years to acquire
- 30:18Speaker 6: LaMelo Ball.
- 30:19Speaker 10: Tim Connolly, the president of basketball operations with the Wolves,
- 30:22Speaker 10: and Chris Finch, the head coach, have long believed that
- 30:26Speaker 10: LaMelo Ball's combination of size, vision, passing, shot creation, floor spacing,
- 30:33Speaker 10: all of that is the perfect fit to be alongside
- 30:37Speaker 10: Anthony Edwards to another guy who's an unbelievable catch and
- 30:40Speaker 10: shoot shooter who needs to have the defense spread out
- 30:44Speaker 10: so we can get to the basket and need someone
- 30:47Speaker 10: to kind of facilitate the way that an offense needs
- 30:50Speaker 10: to run. And so they've tried several times over the
- 30:53Speaker 10: past couple of years to see if the Hornets were
- 30:55Speaker 10: interested in trading LaMelo Ball and got rebussed every time.
- 31:00Speaker 10: And last night, right after the second round concluded, it
- 31:06Speaker 10: started to come out that know, the Hornets were really
- 31:09Speaker 10: starting to seriously consider offers, and the Wolves got all
- 31:13Speaker 10: in immediately.
- 31:15Speaker 6: So there you're going to be trying for a minute
- 31:17Speaker 6: to get to get Lamello and pair them with Edwards.
- 31:20Speaker 3: I'm not trying to pull for your point there, but
- 31:22Speaker 3: that's a fascinating angle of this. On the other side,
- 31:25Speaker 3: that is two different personalities than Edwards and Mellow, And
- 31:30Speaker 3: how does that blend the free flowing, free spirit LaMelo
- 31:34Speaker 3: who's not afraid mat to take some shots at times
- 31:38Speaker 3: that you'd say, oh, that might not be good. With
- 31:40Speaker 3: the dog mentality of Anthony Edwards, that'll be interesting to
- 31:43Speaker 3: watch that.
- 31:43Speaker 4: I think Edwards will be great for LaMelo. I think
- 31:46Speaker 4: this is because LaMelo didn't have anybody here on the team.
- 31:48Speaker 4: I mean, you could say Miles Bridges, but they were
- 31:50Speaker 4: real close. Did Miles really get on them? I feel
- 31:53Speaker 4: like ant Man will get on him. A man's a
- 31:55Speaker 4: dog that wants to win. And by the way, this
- 31:57Speaker 4: team wins playoff series.
- 31:58Speaker 6: I know they got a little worse on the front
- 32:00Speaker 6: line obviously lose Randall trade nas reed to us, but
- 32:05Speaker 6: they're gonna be expected to win, and if they're not,
- 32:07Speaker 6: there's pressure. They're gonna be more pressure there. LaMelo's gonna
- 32:10Speaker 6: feel I almost wonder if that guy to kick him
- 32:12Speaker 6: in the rear end could help him out a little bit.
- 32:14Speaker 6: And I hope it goes well for LaMelo. I really do.
- 32:16Speaker 6: I know some people, you know, I don't know. There's
- 32:19Speaker 6: some people seem to be bashing LaMelo on the way
- 32:21Speaker 6: out here in Charlotte, whatever, but I certainly wish him
- 32:24Speaker 6: the best. But I also hope it works out for
- 32:26Speaker 6: us as a team, and I still think there is
- 32:28Speaker 6: a chance to get work. I wouldn't have done the
- 32:30Speaker 6: trade still bone, but I think there's a chance that
- 32:33Speaker 6: this front office can make it work. By the way,
- 32:35Speaker 6: the most amazing thing I read yesterday about LaMelo was
- 32:38Speaker 6: in John Krasinski's article did you see this about about
- 32:42Speaker 6: Lamello's interview process with the Timberwolves during the draft?
- 32:45Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I did, Yes, Yes.
- 32:47Speaker 8: This is this.
- 32:48Speaker 6: I mean, I fell off the couch. They remember, they
- 32:51Speaker 6: draft ant Man over LaMelo and we get LaMelo during
- 32:54Speaker 6: the same draft. And a part of the reason, Krazinsky
- 32:57Speaker 6: says is because the interview for the Mellow pre draft
- 33:01Speaker 6: did not go well with the Timberwolves. One of the
- 33:04Speaker 6: things that put them off is they asked him, what
- 33:06Speaker 6: do you see yourself doing when you're done playing basketball?
- 33:09Speaker 6: He says, I'd like to be president of the United States?
- 33:15Speaker 6: And they thought that kind of a weir response.
- 33:20Speaker 4: Oh, facts, fam, that state of that Union would be
- 33:23Speaker 4: really short?
- 33:24Speaker 5: He what, and he.
- 33:24Speaker 6: Questions, fam, facts, how many cuss words would he drop
- 33:27Speaker 6: in the State of the Union as well?
- 33:28Speaker 4: Accidentally, Oh my.
- 33:30Speaker 3: God, someone would say, why is why is the motorcade
- 33:35Speaker 3: going so fast around DC?
- 33:37Speaker 4: Oh? Well, President Mellow took it for an Oh.
- 33:39Speaker 6: I'm curious, though, bone, what does ninety two think. We've
- 33:43Speaker 6: got him on hand, ninety two. Do you think Lamello
- 33:45Speaker 6: could make it as a president or No?
- 33:47Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 33:48Speaker 4: It takes a very sophisticated kind of man to be
- 33:52Speaker 4: in the White House, and I don't know lamellow Ball
- 33:55Speaker 4: has those qualities. Leave this game though, of watching him
- 34:00Speaker 4: sho ninety two. There's also a lot of temptation in
- 34:04Speaker 4: that house too, you know what I mean? I have
- 34:08Speaker 4: a touch of a Monica before she was up. My intern.
- 34:12Speaker 6: Mat could be really great if you were actually good
- 34:14Speaker 6: at impressions, because we have ninety two one hand, we
- 34:18Speaker 6: have Bill Clinton on hand.
- 34:19Speaker 4: If you could do like an Obama Spurrier, but you know.
- 34:24Speaker 6: If you have presidential pitching around a little bit, I
- 34:27Speaker 6: can only say certain things a spurrier, though, All I
- 34:29Speaker 6: can say is getting there, pitching around, coach him up.
- 34:31Speaker 4: Could you imagine if he was president? If Spurry would
- 34:34Speaker 4: have ran for president?
- 34:36Speaker 6: Be shirtless on the on the golf court.
- 34:38Speaker 4: A ripping prime ministers left and right on there a
- 34:42Speaker 4: whole lot different from right now ninety two. You took
- 34:45Speaker 4: the words out of my mouth. I'm like, how is
- 34:48Speaker 4: that different?
- 34:48Speaker 5: Right?
- 34:48Speaker 4: Anyway?
- 34:49Speaker 6: Real quick, because there was a charity event that our ownership,
- 34:54Speaker 6: Plocke and Schnall were at yesterday for their work that
- 34:57Speaker 6: they do would nourish up often awesome charitable cause here
- 35:01Speaker 6: that we've worked with here at WFNZ, And of course
- 35:04Speaker 6: the media wanted to hear about the LaMelo trade, which
- 35:07Speaker 6: isn't even official yet, so technically they can't talk about.
- 35:10Speaker 6: Jeff Peterson said the same thing at the presser yesterday
- 35:14Speaker 6: for the draft picks, but Schnaul did talk about like
- 35:18Speaker 6: the timeline you know for building a great team.
- 35:23Speaker 7: Yes, transformation takes time. You know, we established this this
- 35:28Speaker 7: vision and mission to be the premier franchise. We know
- 35:32Speaker 7: that it's gonna take time, and it takes tough decisions
- 35:35Speaker 7: to get there, and it takes an organization that's bought in,
- 35:38Speaker 7: and we feel we feel like we're in a great place.
- 35:41Speaker 7: We're in a great place. We have a great city,
- 35:43Speaker 7: we have a great community, and we're building a great
- 35:45Speaker 7: team and we have an incredible fan base and so
- 35:49Speaker 7: we feel like We're exactly where we want to be.
- 35:51Speaker 6: So there you go. It's again take time. They are
- 35:55Speaker 6: willing to take time with this bone. I don't think
- 35:58Speaker 6: they expected to have a season like they did last year. Yeah,
- 36:02Speaker 6: I think they feel like that was a little ahead
- 36:04Speaker 6: of schedule, And to your point, I don't. I think
- 36:07Speaker 6: they are worried about the long game, becoming one of
- 36:11Speaker 6: the best teams in the East, challenging to win the East.
- 36:15Speaker 6: Whereas fans, I think we're like, you won forty four
- 36:17Speaker 6: after the slow start, Let's keep this core for the
- 36:20Speaker 6: most part, build on it here or there, let's win
- 36:23Speaker 6: fifty you know what I mean? Like I think we
- 36:25Speaker 6: want an incremental growth. I think they're more worried about
- 36:28Speaker 6: what are we going to be in two years, three years,
- 36:30Speaker 6: that sort of thing.
- 36:31Speaker 3: I think our plan was probably to deal Mellow as
- 36:34Speaker 3: soon as he got healthy and his value was at
- 36:36Speaker 3: the highest it can be. Tom Haberstrow said yesterday, Think
- 36:39Speaker 3: about what his value was a year ago compared to now.
- 36:41Speaker 3: They tried to move him a year ago, what would
- 36:43Speaker 3: they have gotten compared to now? So I think they
- 36:45Speaker 3: might have went into the season thinking, if he stays healthy,
- 36:48Speaker 3: no matter what, happens this season, will look to see
- 36:51Speaker 3: what we can do.
- 36:51Speaker 4: It just happened to be to.
- 36:52Speaker 3: Your point, Hey, they had a great year, but in
- 36:54Speaker 3: their minds, hey, mellow was the plan was to move
- 36:58Speaker 3: off of Melow anyway to year point. Do you think
- 37:01Speaker 3: when they acquired Kobe White do you think they were thinking,
- 37:06Speaker 3: because they told you right up front we wanted his
- 37:08Speaker 3: bird rights.
- 37:08Speaker 4: I want to sign him.
- 37:11Speaker 6: And I'll tell you how about this though you say,
- 37:13Speaker 6: good point, Phitty's were trying to wrap it up, Phitty,
- 37:15Speaker 6: this is very important. This is bone getting a compliment
- 37:18Speaker 6: from me. All right, this is a historic moment on
- 37:20Speaker 6: this show. The uh you said when we ear when
- 37:27Speaker 6: we traded for Kobe White, you threw in as one
- 37:30Speaker 6: of the reasons. Maybe the front office views this as
- 37:33Speaker 6: if they want to part with LaMelo, a guy that
- 37:36Speaker 6: could take over as point guard this team.
- 37:38Speaker 4: And what did I do? Boh, that's a terrible idea.
- 37:40Speaker 4: What are you tired about about? I'll be damned if
- 37:44Speaker 4: you didn't call that. That's It's very possible they were thinking.
- 37:46Speaker 4: I don't know for sure, but very possible that's what
- 37:48Speaker 4: they were thinking.
- 37:49Speaker 3: That they wanted a guy in place and I had
- 37:51Speaker 3: the search for one, and then they could easily sell
- 37:53Speaker 3: it as this is our guy now and that could
- 37:56Speaker 3: be what's happening there we come back. James plow Wright,
- 37:59Speaker 3: British buzz Him reacts to the move yesterday.
- 38:02Speaker 4: I think he whites the move. Sports Radio ninety two
- 38:04Speaker 4: seven WFNZ.
- 38:21Speaker 6: Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ Macken Bone with you.
- 38:26Speaker 4: So we did.
- 38:26Speaker 6: We won a lot of different takes and opinions because
- 38:29Speaker 6: there is such a wide variety of opinions on this
- 38:33Speaker 6: LaMelo ball tray we were mentioning a national media seems
- 38:37Speaker 6: to like ninety percent of them love it.
- 38:39Speaker 4: For the Hornets fans.
- 38:41Speaker 6: It's it's definitely Even a day later, Bone, it's still
- 38:43Speaker 6: the majority is like, man, why did we do this?
- 38:46Speaker 4: So we want to keep getting different opinions on it.
- 38:49Speaker 6: And speaking of different opinions, let's just go to a
- 38:52Speaker 6: different continent man, a guy that covers the Hornets all
- 38:56Speaker 6: the way from England, and we love him for it,
- 39:00Speaker 6: his Hornet's passion even when things are really bad, Bone nineteen,
- 39:04Speaker 6: game bad. This man is like up in the middle
- 39:06Speaker 6: of the night over there in England watching Hornet's game
- 39:10Speaker 6: Hornet's game. You can catch him on the Buzzbeat podcast.
- 39:13Speaker 6: He is James plow Ride British Buzz on Twitter and
- 39:16Speaker 6: he joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show. James,
- 39:18Speaker 6: what's going on, man? How you doing?
- 39:21Speaker 4: I am okay.
- 39:22Speaker 2: I'm recovering from a hectic and unexpected day yesterday. I
- 39:26Speaker 2: thought it's been so quiet after the draft, but Jess,
- 39:29Speaker 2: he isn't.
- 39:30Speaker 4: You thought the big news was gonna be the Hornets
- 39:32Speaker 4: signed Wyatt Fricks of Marshall and that turns out and
- 39:37Speaker 4: it was bigger news to happen.
- 39:38Speaker 6: Oh my god. So it's interesting you. Bone was messaging
- 39:42Speaker 6: with you like just after the shams like report, like
- 39:46Speaker 6: before it even became official, and you were like, yeah,
- 39:49Speaker 6: I have to be honest, I understand it. Like so
- 39:52Speaker 6: when they made the deal and you saw what we
- 39:54Speaker 6: got back, Like, do you you think Charlotte made a
- 39:57Speaker 6: good move.
- 40:00Speaker 2: I think Charlotte no LaMelo Ball better than anybody. If
- 40:03Speaker 2: they're willing to make this difficult of a trade, which
- 40:06Speaker 2: is so bold and cut throat, then I think that
- 40:09Speaker 2: they know the player. I support their decision. Look, Lameli Ball,
- 40:14Speaker 2: no doubt this is going to I think make the
- 40:15Speaker 2: team worse in the short term. But this team, the
- 40:18Speaker 2: leadership group have talked time and time again that they're
- 40:21Speaker 2: not interested in chasing the seed. And they looked at
- 40:24Speaker 2: this set of playoffs, they looked at the playing games,
- 40:27Speaker 2: and they went, we don't know if lamali Ball is
- 40:29Speaker 2: our best player is going to get us to this level,
- 40:32Speaker 2: and if he's not, they need to prevent you from
- 40:34Speaker 2: adding the next best player because of the way the
- 40:37Speaker 2: contracts work and the way that the draft works, and
- 40:40Speaker 2: they don't believe lamali Ball is the right player to
- 40:43Speaker 2: take them to the point. So look, the package was
- 40:45Speaker 2: not what I think a lot of fans would have
- 40:47Speaker 2: hoped to get back. But that's down to all the
- 40:50Speaker 2: reasons the Hornets traded him in the first place, injuries, leadership, maturity,
- 40:55Speaker 2: contract value, defense efficiency, late game execution, his lack of
- 41:00Speaker 2: improvement in certain areas. So that's why they didn't get
- 41:04Speaker 2: this big hole back. It's also why they traded him.
- 41:07Speaker 3: Do you think that the Kobe White trade in hindsight
- 41:10Speaker 3: now makes sense that they got Kobe White here for
- 41:14Speaker 3: this to happen, that they could move Mellow and have
- 41:17Speaker 3: a guy in place already here in Kobe White.
- 41:22Speaker 2: I think it will have been a possibility. I still
- 41:24Speaker 2: think there was a world where Lamela's Day this year
- 41:27Speaker 2: and they brought Kobe White back. I think Kobe White
- 41:29Speaker 2: is even pushed back on some of the reporting This
- 41:31Speaker 2: morning on his social media there was a report saying
- 41:33Speaker 2: that he wanted to go start elsewhere, and he's kind
- 41:37Speaker 2: of tweeted out, don't believe everything you read. So I
- 41:40Speaker 2: think that was one of the options. It's one of
- 41:43Speaker 2: the good additions about adding Kobe White. If something did
- 41:45Speaker 2: come up with the other ball, you've got already made replacement.
- 41:48Speaker 2: But I don't think this was a galaxy brain. That
- 41:51Speaker 2: has kind of been planned back in February, and this
- 41:53Speaker 2: is always the plan. I think. You know, as an
- 41:55Speaker 2: NBA team, you have different options available to you, and
- 41:58Speaker 2: in the end they have gone on through.
- 42:01Speaker 6: James plow Right with US Buzzbeat podcast. Those guys do
- 42:04Speaker 6: an awesome job talking Hornets ball. So James, let's the
- 42:08Speaker 6: big question though, is right, what's next? Because it just
- 42:12Speaker 6: feels like you didn't pick up the league's highest trade
- 42:14Speaker 6: exception almost forty one million for nothing, right, like, so
- 42:19Speaker 6: what's next? You also have a ton of assets to
- 42:22Speaker 6: use too, if you make a deal, Like, what are
- 42:25Speaker 6: your theories on what's next? We had a local TV reporter,
- 42:27Speaker 6: Micha Lasette here report that the Hornets are one of
- 42:31Speaker 6: the teams that Sham's was alluding to when Seams said,
- 42:34Speaker 6: Boston is talking Jalen Brown trade with multiple teams, Like
- 42:38Speaker 6: is that a move you could see happening? Is it
- 42:40Speaker 6: something else? Like what's next?
- 42:43Speaker 4: It's possible.
- 42:45Speaker 2: I mean Jalen Brown wouldn't fit into that trade exception,
- 42:47Speaker 2: so that have to be other ways to get there.
- 42:50Speaker 2: But it all comes down to what Charlotte want to do.
- 42:51Speaker 2: Like I say, forty point seven million trade exception, they
- 42:54Speaker 2: can get any player earning that money that's near max
- 42:57Speaker 2: money for some players straight in with a sending any
- 43:00Speaker 2: salary outgoing. So this is why it's hard to judge
- 43:04Speaker 2: this trade in the moment because it's like, well, what's
- 43:06Speaker 2: going to happen with the assets that you pick up
- 43:08Speaker 2: from it? You kind of we need to wait a
- 43:09Speaker 2: little bit to the whole picture. I would be surprised
- 43:13Speaker 2: if they went out and added like another win now
- 43:15Speaker 2: piece because then it just feels a little bit confusing,
- 43:17Speaker 2: like you take the Melo ball away, you then go
- 43:19Speaker 2: and try and you know, take a step forward again.
- 43:22Speaker 2: It's like two sepsible ones at back. I think maybe
- 43:24Speaker 2: more likely, and I don't know if this would be popular,
- 43:27Speaker 2: but you could take in more bad money, right and
- 43:29Speaker 2: get more first round picks, which they are just collecting
- 43:32Speaker 2: this treasure show.
- 43:33Speaker 1: They've got the.
- 43:33Speaker 2: Second most future first round picks of any team in
- 43:36Speaker 2: the NBA, so I they could maybe not even be
- 43:40Speaker 2: sure how they're going to use it. It could be well,
- 43:42Speaker 2: what are the offers. If we can get two first
- 43:44Speaker 2: round picks, we're taking a bad salary, will do it?
- 43:46Speaker 2: Or if we can get access to I don't know,
- 43:49Speaker 2: Jarrett Allen, Hey, we'll use it in a more positive
- 43:51Speaker 2: way and they us get batter So there's options. The
- 43:54Speaker 2: trade exception lasts a full year, so they don't have
- 43:56Speaker 2: to use it the summer. They could use it at
- 43:58Speaker 2: the trade deadline or before the draft next year, so
- 44:02Speaker 2: I might. I would kind of worn against it necessarily
- 44:04Speaker 2: being used in an immediately corresponding moved, although it is
- 44:07Speaker 2: a possibility.
- 44:08Speaker 3: What do you think of the nas Reid acquisition as
- 44:11Speaker 3: part of this? And I'm wondering, and I saw some
- 44:12Speaker 3: people yesterday bring up the name I'm wondering could he
- 44:15Speaker 3: be this generation's Anthony Mason, a great bench player where
- 44:19Speaker 3: he was, comes to Charlotte, becomes a starter, and his
- 44:23Speaker 3: game expands even more. What do you think of nas
- 44:26Speaker 3: and how he fits in here to the equation.
- 44:29Speaker 2: He's a really interesting and unique player, and he definitely
- 44:32Speaker 2: brings a level of spacing from the fullest spot size
- 44:35Speaker 2: of shooting, which the Shart Hornets just don't have anywhere
- 44:38Speaker 2: on the roster. I mean, Grant Williams, Miles Bridge is
- 44:40Speaker 2: the sixty sixth, Maus Reed is like a legit six ten.
- 44:44Speaker 2: He almost plays more like a guard or a wing
- 44:46Speaker 2: in terms of his style. I think it's a really
- 44:49Speaker 2: interesting bit of an upside swing. Like say he's coming
- 44:52Speaker 2: off the bench in Minnesota. He's been sick manber year once,
- 44:55Speaker 2: if not maybe twice, and I think the Hornet's being
- 44:59Speaker 2: able to use him in a lot of I think
- 45:00Speaker 2: it's an interesting addition. I'm not one hundred percent sure
- 45:04Speaker 2: that he'll like definitely stay Horner. I think EBC that
- 45:07Speaker 2: reported that the Hornets do like him, but if someone
- 45:09Speaker 2: comes and blows their tops off or another trade offer,
- 45:12Speaker 2: he doesn't tick all the boxes in terms of like,
- 45:14Speaker 2: he's not a great defender. He doesn't like to drive,
- 45:17Speaker 2: getting to the rim or getting to the foul line,
- 45:19Speaker 2: and those are things that you probably want to surround
- 45:21Speaker 2: Brandon Miller and Konk Nipple with someone of that player type.
- 45:25Speaker 2: So I wouldn't say it's a perfect fit, but there
- 45:27Speaker 2: are definitely ways that he can help this team.
- 45:30Speaker 6: Last thing I want to ask you about the Hornets
- 45:32Speaker 6: is we did have a draft. It feels now feels
- 45:35Speaker 6: like that was like a month ago because this LaMelo
- 45:38Speaker 6: trade worldwin. What did you think about getting Hannes Steinbach
- 45:42Speaker 6: in Christian Anderson in the first round.
- 45:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the steinback pick. He was talent on
- 45:48Speaker 2: my board. I thought he not only was he really
- 45:51Speaker 2: good talent available, but he also fits a bunch of
- 45:54Speaker 2: what the Hornets are looking for. He immediately is their
- 45:56Speaker 2: most skilled big and versatile big offensively in terms of
- 46:00Speaker 2: like playmaking and potentially shooting and being able to do
- 46:03Speaker 2: a little bit more with the ball rather than kind
- 46:05Speaker 2: of just like, you know, dive to the rim and
- 46:07Speaker 2: dunk it like Lisa and colbrend Ado. And he's just
- 46:11Speaker 2: one of the best rebounders and best pair of hands
- 46:14Speaker 2: that we've seen in the draft in recent years, so
- 46:16Speaker 2: really excited about Hanna Steinbach. Christian Anderson eighteen was a
- 46:19Speaker 2: pick that was probably a little bit lower on either
- 46:22Speaker 2: towards my late first round. I just you know, we
- 46:24Speaker 2: watched this playoffs. Small guards under six to two just
- 46:28Speaker 2: so rarely factor into the playoffs. Now you might be
- 46:30Speaker 2: screaming at the phone saying, what about Jamon Brunson. Well, yeah,
- 46:33Speaker 2: but he's built like a fridge guy. You know, Christian
- 46:37Speaker 2: Anderson is skinny. He's like one hundred and eighty pounds
- 46:40Speaker 2: six one and three quarters. But you know, absolutely if
- 46:44Speaker 2: he can put on some weights, he can survive defensively.
- 46:47Speaker 2: He is one of the best shooters to come out
- 46:49Speaker 2: of the draft from in terms of shooting from beyond
- 46:51Speaker 2: the arc since twenty twenty. I saw some stats of
- 46:54Speaker 2: the day like his combination of volume, self created attempts
- 46:59Speaker 2: and efficient from well beyond the college line and those
- 47:02Speaker 2: deep threes is pretty special. So and he can play
- 47:06Speaker 2: make too. He's not just a shooters, so there's some
- 47:08Speaker 2: real gifts there. It's for me, it's mainly about the defense.
- 47:11Speaker 2: Can you survive defensively? And Charlotte Schien, look it managed
- 47:14Speaker 2: to hide LaMelo ball pretty effectively defensively last year, so
- 47:18Speaker 2: it could be a good fit for Anderson too.
- 47:20Speaker 4: All right, now, it's going to be interesting.
- 47:21Speaker 6: We love your passion for the Hornets and your knowledge
- 47:25Speaker 6: of the game from over there in England is damn
- 47:28Speaker 6: good too. I need to ask you, though. We are
- 47:30Speaker 6: loving the World Cup here in the US. We're loving
- 47:33Speaker 6: a lot of the euro fans being here and like partying.
- 47:37Speaker 6: The Scots have been insane, the Norwegian row. We can't
- 47:40Speaker 6: get enough of that. The games are on. It a
- 47:43Speaker 6: great time for us in the States. But I need
- 47:45Speaker 6: to ask over there in England, like does the World Cup?
- 47:49Speaker 6: Does it lose a little bit because a lot of
- 47:50Speaker 6: the games are played like when y'all are sleeping, have
- 47:53Speaker 6: you been to join it?
- 47:55Speaker 2: You're right, it does lose it a little bit, especially
- 47:58Speaker 2: for like young people because they're on so late. Kids
- 48:00Speaker 2: used to like I remember watching my first World Cup
- 48:03Speaker 2: match when I was seven years old, So it has
- 48:06Speaker 2: lost a little bit of its edge just with them
- 48:08Speaker 2: being on so late. And you know, there's some cynicism
- 48:11Speaker 2: about these hydration breaks. Oh yeah, it's good annoying of
- 48:15Speaker 2: that nature. But you know, as we get to these
- 48:18Speaker 2: knockout stages and you get some bigger matchups, and I
- 48:21Speaker 2: think the excitement, the level is going to grow. But
- 48:23Speaker 2: obviously the Sony teams qualifying for the next round, it's
- 48:27Speaker 2: been strange. But how about USA. I mean, I know
- 48:29Speaker 2: they lost off night, but they've been playing really well
- 48:31Speaker 2: and I'm excited to see them do well in a
- 48:33Speaker 2: home tournament.
- 48:33Speaker 4: I love that of the best even in the world.
- 48:35Speaker 4: Some are saying right.
- 48:36Speaker 6: Now are saying people are saying, you lost, James cremony,
- 48:41Speaker 6: he got a little greedy, James. We just like the
- 48:44Speaker 6: acknowledgment from somebody in a soccer nation like yourself.
- 48:47Speaker 4: We like that recognition.
- 48:48Speaker 3: All right, brother, Hey, keep Harry Kane away from the
- 48:51Speaker 3: witch doctors and the low blocks too. Hopefully you don't
- 48:56Speaker 3: see that again any time soon. All right, brother, be
- 48:57Speaker 3: good man. We always appreciate you.
- 49:00Speaker 2: Thanks guys.
- 49:00Speaker 4: All right, there you go.
- 49:01Speaker 6: That is James plow right, So he is more on
- 49:04Speaker 6: the side of understanding what they're doing. He's preaching more
- 49:07Speaker 6: patients like don't go out there and necessarily you don't
- 49:11Speaker 6: have to go win now with your next move. So
- 49:13Speaker 6: we'll talk about all of that when we come back.
- 49:15Speaker 6: We've had a data process. The mellow trade. Our fans
- 49:19Speaker 6: still ticked in Mac. How about this for a tease,
- 49:21Speaker 6: I ask him interesting bio information on your new guy,
- 49:26Speaker 6: nas Reed and what's his nickname?
- 49:28Speaker 4: How about that? Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ