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- 0:00Your podcast is not a group project, you don't just hand it off to whoever knows a little
- 0:05bit of audio and hope for the best.
- 0:08You also don't need the white knuckle every edit yourself until you rage scroll your own
- 0:14way form at midnight.
- 0:18You need to know enough to choose the right help.
- 0:21So let's talk about how and to do that I want to talk about a couple of friends Chase
- 0:26Taylor and Mandy Pough from the Houston Bound podcast.
- 0:30Before they hired speak podcasting they learn to edit their own episodes in Riverside.
- 0:36As a producer I've got mad respect for that and if you're early in your journey that's
- 0:43the move.
- 0:44Use Riverside, Descript, all the edit like award dock tools.
- 0:48They're fantastic for DIYers.
- 0:51Use your first five to ten episodes yourself.
- 0:54Learn where you shine and where you suffer.
- 0:57DIY is like a bootcamp, not your final form.
- 1:01When you're ready to hire a netter or a production company like mine, here's your first filter.
- 1:07Walk me through your workflow from raw files to final master.
- 1:12And if the answer is basically, oh I throw it in the Riverside or Descript delete the
- 1:15Yoms fix a couple of gaps and export.
- 1:18You have just met a beginner.
- 1:22Nothing wrong with beginners.
- 1:23I was a beginner back in the 90s, yes I'm dating myself but you don't pay pro money
- 1:28for button clicking, you could do yourself.
- 1:32You're hiring judgment, not a slightly faster mouse.
- 1:37Here's where you separate real producers from people playing with presets and I know
- 1:43that sounds pretentious.
- 1:46Ask this word for word.
- 1:50How do you process your master?
- 1:52Are you running compression and or limiting?
- 1:55What does your audio chain look like?
- 1:58You don't need to understand every term.
- 2:00You're listening for whether they do.
- 2:03A pro is going to talk about things like gentle compression on individual tracks or a
- 2:07limiter on the master track.
- 2:09Maybe a little EQ cleanup, they might talk about Renaissance EQ 6 by the way I love Renaissance
- 2:15EQ 6.
- 2:16I've been using it since 1999 when I first started producing on Pro Tools, it's amazing.
- 2:25Now they won't need 20 minutes.
- 2:28Trust me, you don't want to go 20 minutes with an audio nerd talking about this kind
- 2:32of stuff.
- 2:33It's going to be like they're speaking a foreign language but they're at least going
- 2:36to have an answer.
- 2:38If your prospective producer or editor or VA goes silent or changes the subject or if
- 2:46they stare at you on Zoom like you just recited the Iliad in Greek, then that is your sign.
- 2:53Your business does not deserve somebody who's never thought about an audio chain.
- 3:00Your show deserves somebody who knows a podcast episode isn't done just because the
- 3:06ums are gone.
- 3:08The master has got to translate car, AirPods, cheap Bluetooth speaker, whatever.
- 3:16Oh, and by the way, anybody who says they'll remove all the ums in dead silence is leaving
- 3:22out a critical piece of the episode context.
- 3:27Not every um is removable depending on how it's said words, they slur.
- 3:34Notice the difference.
- 3:35I'm going to repeat that last sentence.
- 3:37Not every um is removable and here's one that's where it's not removable.
- 3:43Not every um is removable.
- 3:44Do you hear the difference?
- 3:45I'll do it again.
- 3:47Not every um is removable and then not every um is removable.
- 3:52Got it?
- 3:53Good.
- 3:54And then silence.
- 3:55It could be the most powerful part of a conversation if used properly.
- 4:00How bad would it be if the most emotional part of your conversation sounded choppy because
- 4:06your producer decided to quote unquote fix the six second pause after your guest said
- 4:12I've never told anyone this before.
- 4:16We're also in the age where AI can strip silences, remove filler words, auto level voices and
- 4:22if that's your budget and that's your season, cool.
- 4:26Look at the show, but please be honest with yourself.
- 4:33Heavy AI and I love AI.
- 4:36Heavy AI often sounds chopped and unnatural, room tone shifts, breaths vanish like we don't
- 4:44need our lungs, sentences, they feel rushed or robotic.
- 4:51If you're okay with that in exchange for speed and cost, cool.
- 4:55That's a strategy.
- 4:56It actually is.
- 4:57Don't let anybody tell you different, but if you're building a premium brand, you're selling
- 5:02serious services or expecting people to spend 30 to 60 minutes with you regularly.
- 5:09At some point, you want human ears making human decisions on top of the tools.
- 5:15Now, hiring outside the States can be smart.
- 5:20Please don't confuse not American with automatically a deal.
- 5:25If you're paying almost US rates overseas and the work is mediocre, you're overpaying.
- 5:33If you're paying rock bottom in the turnaround and promises sound magical, you're probably
- 5:39somebody's training ground.
- 5:41What I want you to do is look at exchange rates, costs of living where they are, actual
- 5:46quality of their portfolio, that is so important.
- 5:51Send me a link to your portfolio.
- 5:55Anybody who's serious about editing your show is going to have samples of their work full
- 6:01stop.
- 6:02The goal is not to squeeze editors just because they live overseas, it's to pay fairly
- 6:07for real skill wherever it lives.
- 6:12And whether it's speak podcasting or anybody else, what you're looking for is respect
- 6:17for the craft.
- 6:19They're cool with you having done DIY.
- 6:21They speak your language enough to build on what you learned and not talk down to you.
- 6:27They've got a real process like QC delivery, so on and so forth, mastering awareness.
- 6:37They know what to do to your master and why, compression, limiting, maybe light EQ on purpose
- 6:45and not by accident.
- 6:47They're honest about the tools.
- 6:49Maybe they do use Riverside and Descript, hey, I love Riverside.
- 6:54I've used Descript before, it just ran a little bit too slow for my machine and I wasn't
- 7:00about that life.
- 7:01So I'm loyal to Riverside, I love the tools that don't pay me to say this.
- 7:06I should become an affiliate.
- 7:08Anyways, I've used the voice corrector on Riverside.
- 7:14It's decent.
- 7:15I like it.
- 7:16I love all the tools that they provide.
- 7:19It's a great service.
- 7:21But make sure that they're using AI as helpers.
- 7:25They're using AI to produce the podcast, they're not letting AI produce the podcast.
- 7:30Do you hear that difference?
- 7:31They're using AI to help with the podcast.
- 7:35They're not letting AI produce the podcast.
- 7:38They're clear about that final sound and they ensure that it's shaped by a human ear.
- 7:46Do that and you're living the chase and Mandy model that they lived for the Houston
- 7:50Bound podcast at the beginning of their podcast journey.
- 7:54You learn the ins and outs yourself, you gain mad respect from guys like me for what
- 7:58goes into a good episode because trust me listeners can sniff out a bad episode quicker
- 8:02than you can skip a commercial on your favorite podcast then you're going to hand your show
- 8:07to somebody who knows what they're doing with a master track.
- 8:11And if you're looking for somebody to edit your show and not just run it through whatever
- 8:15the latest AI tool does, I love this kind of work.
- 8:19So does my team.
- 8:21We're up for hire.
- 8:22If you want to get the conversation started, you can shoot me an email, Freddie at Speak
- 8:26podcasting.com, Freddie with a Y at SPEKE podcasting.com.
- 8:32Thank you so much for listening.