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Mac & Bone Hour 3: College Football Villains · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 3: Radio ninety two seven WFNZ eight o'clocker's welcome aboard. That's
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  Speaker 3: a football Friday, man. We're talking all kinds of football.
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  Speaker 3: that out to you. We've been talking about this Jaden
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  Speaker 3: Daniels lsu mess as well, and we got more college
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  Speaker 3: We also say welcome to the great Paul fine Bomb
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  Speaker 3: ESPN SEC Network joining us on the Mac and Bone Show. Paul,
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  Speaker 3: how you been man? What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: You know, Mack and Bone is so great to be back.
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  Speaker 1: I knew I have not been on a long time.
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  Speaker 1: After they shut a Clemson football program down, I thought
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  Speaker 1: you guys might follow me, but it's been a while,
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  Speaker 1: so well, welcome.
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  Speaker 3: Hey Paul. The first question we have to ask is
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  Speaker 3: is it as a gamecock fan? Paul? Please don't make
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  Speaker 3: fun of Clemson. Oh no, don't do that. You love it.
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  Speaker 3: You love that, Paul. I got to ask you, is
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  Speaker 3: it something we said? It was something we did. Why
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  Speaker 3: did you leave Charlotte and go back to live in Alabama?
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  Speaker 3: What's the story?
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  Speaker 5: Well, it was a legal issue.
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  Speaker 1: I really didn't have a choice, but you know it
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  Speaker 1: was I was there thirteen years. I was there thirteen
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  Speaker 1: years and had a great time. But my wife here
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  Speaker 1: we go, is from Birmingham. She's been wanting to move back,
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  Speaker 1: and finally they took a while, but finally my bosses
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  Speaker 1: allowed me to do it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, considering half of ESPN.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't report from the studio, I guess they finally acquiesced.
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  Speaker 1: But it was nothing personal. And by the way, the
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  Speaker 1: second I leave Charlotte, the Panthers get good.
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  Speaker 4: You motivated that, Paul, you motivated and then rolled out.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned Clemson there off the start, So we'll start
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  Speaker 4: with that and then we'll get into the deep into
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  Speaker 4: the SEC stuff. Why do you think Clemson has fallen
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  Speaker 4: off in recent times? And do you see them ever
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  Speaker 4: getting back to a level of dominance under Dabbo that
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  Speaker 4: they had there for so long?
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  Speaker 1: I do not see them coming back. Clemson is a
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  Speaker 1: good program, but I think the ACC media got it
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  Speaker 1: about right. I mean, at the moment, they're no better
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  Speaker 1: than fourth best. That run was legendary. Uh will rarely
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  Speaker 1: have ever seen anything quite like that. Again, playing for
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  Speaker 1: four national championship, being in playoffs pretty much every single year,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a perfect storm, especially at the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback position. And then Dabo sween he thought he knew
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  Speaker 1: more than everyone else in college football and decided he
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  Speaker 1: could do it his old way, and it didn't work.
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  Speaker 1: He finally adapted, but the president others have moved ahead
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  Speaker 1: of them, and even yesterday of the day before you
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  Speaker 1: know he does that stupid typical Dabbo. You know, we're
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  Speaker 1: just a bunch of nobodies. Last year, Clemson had arguably
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  Speaker 1: the most talented team in the country and they and they,
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  Speaker 1: they did nothing with it. They went seven and six.
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  Speaker 1: I still can't quite figure it out. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: Clemson is going to be a losing program. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they're going to be a terrible program. But I
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  Speaker 1: think Clemson is now pretty much a nine, three, eight
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  Speaker 1: and four program. So the fans ought to get used
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  Speaker 1: to it instead of fighting back at people like me
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  Speaker 1: every time I utter a comment on Clemson. You know,
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  Speaker 1: these yahoos on the Clemson message boards, you know, come
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  Speaker 1: after me, like you know, the guy can't get Dabo
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  Speaker 1: Sweeney out of his head. Listen, Damas Sweeney isn't in
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  Speaker 1: anybody's head right now. He's a fading coach. If he
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  Speaker 1: has another bad year, he probably ought to be lucky
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  Speaker 1: if the Clemson administration doesn't run them all.
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  Speaker 3: Paul fine By, I'm making more Clemson friends, ladies and
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  Speaker 3: gentlemen here on the Mac and Bone Show. Paul, we
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  Speaker 3: were just talking about this Jade and Daniels thing. That
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  Speaker 3: Daniels team, his family. They're upset. The number five is
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  Speaker 3: being warned by cornerback DJ Pickett that was his number.
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  Speaker 3: He wants it to be sacred, so they issue a
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  Speaker 3: cease and desist of his name, image and likeness. Ls
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  Speaker 3: you can't use it. They literally want LSU to send
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  Speaker 3: their heisman trophy that the school gets back. What do
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  Speaker 3: you make what do you make of this mess?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think I think most everybody I've
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  Speaker 1: talked to agrees this is one of the dumbest things
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  Speaker 1: we've ever seen. I mean, first of all, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to take anything away from Jade and Daniels. He
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  Speaker 1: had an outstanding season. I've covered the SEC for forty
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  Speaker 1: five year years. I mean, it took me a second
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  Speaker 1: to remember Jayden Daniels had played at LSU. He is
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  Speaker 1: not Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow transferred there just like Jayden
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  Speaker 1: Daniels did. But he had one of the most epic
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  Speaker 1: seasons in college football history on one of the best teams.
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  Speaker 1: Jaydon daniels team was not that great. They lost by
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  Speaker 1: twenty in the SEC Championship game. They did be Alabama
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  Speaker 1: and Nick Sabans in overtime at home. His numbers were unbelievable,
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  Speaker 1: but that does not mean you have to get your
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  Speaker 1: number retired. LSU has done it a few times with
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  Speaker 1: names that most of your audience doesn't remember, but a
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  Speaker 1: lot of schools don't. I mean, Tim Tebow is one
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  Speaker 1: of the greatest football players I've ever seen. They're still
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  Speaker 1: using his number at Florida, same for many other schools.
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  Speaker 1: Just get over at Jayden and maybe try to get
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  Speaker 1: Washington back to having a winning record this year.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking to Paul five Bomb SEC Network in ESPN
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  Speaker 4: on the Mago Boat Joe Paul. A lot of polarizing
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  Speaker 4: opinions on the South Carolina game cause we enter this season.
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  Speaker 4: There are some that think they can be a surprise
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  Speaker 4: playoff contender. Others that will say, no, what's your expectation
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  Speaker 4: for Beamer and the game Cocks and how much pressure
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  Speaker 4: is on Beamer this year to get this thing going
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  Speaker 4: in the right direction.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he has enormous pressure on him. And part of
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  Speaker 1: the reason is, you know this every other good year,
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  Speaker 1: bad year just doesn't work, especially when you have a
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  Speaker 1: new athletic director and you know, Shane Aber was hired
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  Speaker 1: by the other guy, right Tanner, and I believe they're
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  Speaker 1: going to have a good season. I was with him
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago at media days, and when
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  Speaker 1: you start talking about the names on that roster, you
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  Speaker 1: know you've got, you know, I know Bruce Veldman did
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  Speaker 1: that freaks list the other day, but South Carolina has
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  Speaker 1: just some absolute freaks of athletic freaks, and they need
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  Speaker 1: to take advantage of it. I think they will. They're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to win one of.
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  Speaker 5: Those games though, that they usually lose, and.
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  Speaker 1: The one I'm looking at right now is probably Alabama
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  Speaker 1: early on. That's a game that two years in a row,
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  Speaker 1: as you guys know, South carol Lerne should have won that.
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  Speaker 1: They've blown both of those games. You can't blow a
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight point.
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  Speaker 5: Lead against Texas A and M and.
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  Speaker 1: I know he's working on that, but you.
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  Speaker 5: Just he has to finish the job or he will.
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  Speaker 1: Not be there next year. I think he will have
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  Speaker 1: a good season somewhere. I don't like to I ask
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  Speaker 1: some guys, hey, what do you think about Alabama this year?
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  Speaker 1: And the guys, you know, I think they're anywhere between
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  Speaker 1: seven and eleven wins. I don't do that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but they feel like they're you know, they're kind of
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  Speaker 1: eight four esque. What that means. That means pretty obviously
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  Speaker 1: if they beat a team like Alabama, they can go
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  Speaker 1: nine and three. If they don't they If they lose
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  Speaker 1: one of those stupid games, they could go seven and five.
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  Speaker 1: But based on and I'll defer.
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  Speaker 5: To you guys, but every time I interview somebody from.
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina who covers a team, they basically say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're not that disappointed at seven and five. I would
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  Speaker 1: like to see a fan base who looks a little
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  Speaker 1: bit higher than stuff in five. But I think eight
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  Speaker 1: and four is doable.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think it's got to take it. I
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  Speaker 4: think it's got to be above seven. It's got to
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  Speaker 4: be whether or not it's the whether it's the playoffs
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  Speaker 4: or not. Paul, I think it's got to be closer
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  Speaker 4: to a season they had two years ago where they
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  Speaker 4: are a much bigger factor than just getting Bowl eligible
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  Speaker 4: or seven wins. But that's just my opinion. There you
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  Speaker 4: go there, well your game cock guy, So that matters.
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  Speaker 4: Your opinion matters, Bone, thank you for that. Paul's opinion
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  Speaker 4: definitely matters. Paul.
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  Speaker 3: I need to know Georgia, Texas or other where are
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  Speaker 3: you going for the best team in the SEC this season.
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  Speaker 1: I really like Texas and maybe I forget sometimes that
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  Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian.
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  Speaker 5: Is the coach and has managed.
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  Speaker 1: To blow these big games consistently. But I'm a big
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  Speaker 1: fan of Arch. You know you've heard cam Coleman's name already,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean he's going to be the most dynamic
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver in the SEC. Came over from Auburn. They
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  Speaker 1: just have everything you need. I mean they've got two,
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  Speaker 1: They've got two or three elite receivers they got they
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  Speaker 1: picked up ready for this, an elite running back from
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  Speaker 1: n C State and.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, the wope, Paul, how dare you?
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  Speaker 1: I mean this guy Hollywood's mothers committed to Alabama. Alabama
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  Speaker 1: fans were rejoicing. He was there about a week. He said,
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  Speaker 1: I've had enough all this. I'm out here. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to Texas.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And he was humming that Ella Langley song the whole way,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, it was just I just think they've
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  Speaker 1: got too many. Their schedules is a little bit more difficult.
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  Speaker 1: Georgia has the easiest schedule in the country other than
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  Speaker 1: Penn State. I mean, they really haven't made so, but
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  Speaker 1: but I'm I'm really I think Georgia has one of
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  Speaker 1: the worst big game in the clutch offensive coordinators I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen in Mike Boba. I never trust that guy
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  Speaker 1: on a big call, and so far he has proven
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  Speaker 1: me right. Paul.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like whenever I read the rankings or projections
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  Speaker 4: or whatever, that Florida and Tennessee are kind of near
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  Speaker 4: each other. Who who do you like more in this season?
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  Speaker 4: The Gators are the balls.
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  Speaker 1: I like Tennessee they're so undecided on quarnerback, but that's
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  Speaker 1: about half the sec right now. Or I like this
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  Speaker 1: Florida coach. I mean, I feel like this guy's name
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  Speaker 1: is John Somemral. He was at Tulane last year. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like he's kind of trying to recreate some role
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  Speaker 1: of a tough guy in a Western I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: talks the game. I mean, I mean Billy Napier was
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  Speaker 1: laughable there last year. This guy will get that program back.
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  Speaker 1: But I think Tennessee is in better shape. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, neither one our serious playoff teams. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we're back to what I just said a minute ago
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  Speaker 1: about seven, five, eight four. Don't I don't think Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: can do much better than eighty four.
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  Speaker 3: Paul. I'm afraid to ask because you've given Clemson the
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  Speaker 3: business NC State got astray there during the Hollywood Smothers comment,
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  Speaker 3: And now I got to ask about unc and what
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  Speaker 3: would love? Would love Hew and see football to have
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  Speaker 3: a good season. But I feel like I feel like
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  Speaker 3: they have earned all the strays they are getting with
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  Speaker 3: the dysfunction, Like, is there any reason to believe that
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  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick can turn this around and make something out
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  Speaker 3: of his tar heel stay or no.
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  Speaker 1: No, there's no reason under the sun to believe that
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  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick knows what he's doing as a college football coach.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think in the history of watching the game,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen a worse job than what I saw last year.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he comes off as a bumbling idiot. And listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm well aware of who he is. I mean I've
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  Speaker 1: been around. I caught every single one of his six
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl wins. He should have had eight or nine,
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: but he is flueless. And I don't know the inside
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  Speaker 1: of the Michael Lombardi deal, but that was his number
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  Speaker 1: one guy. Your number one guy is already uh been derailed.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: You know. The whole thing with a girlfriend is old news.
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  Speaker 1: But but but it's important because she is everywhere, uh
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  Speaker 1: and when she has more power than than his assistance.
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  Speaker 1: You start to wonder, and I mean it's just you know,
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  Speaker 1: and the biggest problem for Bill is that the a
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  Speaker 1: c C is now good.
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  Speaker 5: I mean you just.
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  Speaker 1: Can't, you know, you know, show up there and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and call for
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  Speaker 1: a minute and win eight or nine games. And I
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  Speaker 1: know he got difficult names across the board, and I
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  Speaker 1: think we're looking at another four or five win season.
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  Speaker 3: There we go, Paul Finebaum, the a CEC is now good.
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  Speaker 3: Make that a headline, Internet, make that a headline.
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  Speaker 5: Baby.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. By the way, Paul, I was watching
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  Speaker 3: you yesterday and you had on the woman that's the
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  Speaker 3: old miss fan that does the cooking. What is her
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: what is her name? I don't want to just call
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  Speaker 3: it a woman.
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  Speaker 1: Her name is a chef Elizabeth Elizabeth High School. She's
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  Speaker 1: a very famous chef. You on the day show. But
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  Speaker 1: and she made the proclamation last year she was in
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: love with Lane Kiffin in Oxford and she said, if
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin leaves, I will run down the square that's
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  Speaker 1: the famous place in Oxford butt naked. Now listen, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not. I'm not being chauffnistic here. She's
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  Speaker 1: she's in her mid fifties, and you know, she probably
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  Speaker 1: would not draw a big crowd if she ran butt naked. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But my point is, uh, that's everybody in Ole, miss
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  Speaker 1: They really they believe Lane Kiffin was never going to
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  Speaker 1: leave them.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And but that's the magic of Lane Kiffen. He does it.
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  Speaker 1: He does it to everyone.
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  Speaker 3: You can't trust that, man, you can't. But I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to say, I did not realize you did this. You
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: were showing her video of you at an Alabama sorority
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  Speaker 3: rush Rush event, and you look like you fit right
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  Speaker 3: in Paul. I was impressed. Man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, I got some offers from
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  Speaker 1: Broadway after that performance. But uh, you know, I unfortunately
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  Speaker 1: had that rage in my acting ability that I can
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  Speaker 1: take it anywhere you want. But it was you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean when I started, you know, saying, you know,
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  Speaker 1: belt by lululemm and the girls were just going crazy.
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  Speaker 1: But by the way, you guys are well aware. But
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing more competitive on a college in the college
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  Speaker 1: scene right now than getting rushed at Alabama or all this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more competitive some of the football conferences out there.
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  Speaker 4: We were you're before you go. I have one more
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  Speaker 4: question about your your your show here. We were all
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: concerned about the status of your caller legend when it
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: went viral, when he got dragged out of Media Days.
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  Speaker 4: Is everything okay there with them?
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  Speaker 1: He is not back, So everything I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I know you lost your guy from from
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: from from gastonia illness, and that's sad uh legends, the
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  Speaker 1: best caller in the show. And he thought he had
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  Speaker 1: been credentialed to Media Days, and they they pretty well
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  Speaker 1: tossed him out. And now it's a major conflict and
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: the show is he can't call it anymore, and it's
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: gonna be either if he doesn't come back. I'm quitted.
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  Speaker 3: So there's another headline clip that one too. We got
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  Speaker 3: another headline.
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  Speaker 4: Baby all right, Paul awesome probably only has one folk call.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Paul, thanks for hanging out with you.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna go. I'm gonna now text back and forth
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  Speaker 3: with all the fans. You made man all right, but
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  Speaker 3: we we always appreciate.
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  Speaker 1: It, brother, I always love it.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. There you go. That is Paul Fine bomb
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  Speaker 3: ESPN and the sec Net is he being series legend?
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  Speaker 3: Can't back? You watch every day and Legend really not calling.
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  Speaker 3: I guess I had not heard that part of that storyline,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: but it sounds like, yeah, the SEC might not want
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  Speaker 3: him calling on their network. Oh yeah, that's true because
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: so was he not credentialed and he he is a
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: he is a member of the media.
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  Speaker 4: He does some radio in Birmingham. But he's got to
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  Speaker 4: call it under a fake name that I guess right,
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  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe don't be Legend, be somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, here you go, that could work for him. Mark
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  Speaker 3: note to self, Let's try to get Fitty dragged out
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  Speaker 3: of ACC media days next year. All right, I do
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  Speaker 3: want to mention something bone. He was talking about the
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  Speaker 3: game Cocks and like the frontline talent they had, Like
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: you can't dispute the physical talent that sellers and Harbor
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  Speaker 3: and then Dylan Stewart had I was watching Mary Swain
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  Speaker 3: also for what he does. Yeah, ESPN was a second
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  Speaker 3: team All American returnment. But I was watching one of
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: the ESPN shows. I forget what it was, but they
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: were in Oh, it's Culturble Live and they had Jordan
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Reid on right the draft, you know, Officionado. He put
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: out an article the sixteen guys that can be the
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: number one pick in next year's NFL draft, and two
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: of them are game Cocks. He had Dylan Stewart. Not
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: really surprising there, right, He had Lenora Sellers on that list.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: So he still believes Lenora Sellers can have a season
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: where he could vault himself to the top of the
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: NFL draft.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: It's amazing what happens when Mike Schule gets run out
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: of town. Yeah, we come back back. You you you
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: have a special place in your heart. I think for
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: most of the guts that help contribute to this radio show,
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: but I think deep down you love it when Eugene
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Robinson pops, Oh yeah, We're so much energy, energy, the passion,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: the yelling that you two do together. Eugene Robinson talks pactors.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Don't miss it. He's next on Sports Radio ninety two
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: seven WFNZ.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z Mac and Bone
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: with you. That affordable siding and when your windows text
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: line is hopping, everybody keep them coming in. We got
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Clemson fans, Carolina fans. I don't even know if the
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Carolina fans are manified. Clemson fans are Carolina fans, I'm
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: not sure. Bone. They give a damn that you rip
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick. And there's not a lot of quick you know,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: running to his defense from tar heel fans, and I'm blaming.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: The only.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: The only person that's upset is Michael Lombardi. He doesn't
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: want his guy talked about it that way. Even Jordan's like, yeah,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: you're probably right.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: His meal ticket, man, it's the only reason Michael Lombardi's got.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: That's not a quick note here on Bombardi. He has
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: not eaten since he was put on leave there because
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: he Belichick has. I've been able to feed him two weeks.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Oh man, all right, let's uh, let's talk some Panther football.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Let's all get on the same page, right, Colleges, we
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: got so many different interests and teams, but the Panthers
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: bring us together here in the city of Charlotte, and
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: they've got a preseason game to mars Starters v Starters
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: early in this game against the Bills tomorrow at their
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: brand new stadium one o'clock in the afternoon. A man
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: who has been a staple for years on the Panther
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: radio network, a man that is guaranteed to bring the
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Panther preseason energy that we need on this show, Eugene
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Robinson and he joins us on the Mac and Bone Show. Eugene,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: what's going on, man, how you doing.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I'm doing good, my brother, and I'm so excited about
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: the season, just like everybody else.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I know, Man, I can't wait to see these boys.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: We got a division title to defend, Eugene. Do you
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: think the national media. I'm a little sensitive to this stuff,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: so if you don't agree, you can let me know.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: But like I just it feels like the Panthers improve
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: themselves in the offseason. They've improved themselves by three wins
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: each year under Canalis. They won the division last year,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: and there they are in Vegas as the third choice
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: to win the division, and it just feels like hardly
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: anybody's picking them nationally. Do you feel like they're sleeping
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: on the Panthers nationally or not? Really?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: No, I think they're sleeping on the Paths nationally. I
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: mean you you really think about how well we were
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: able to finish and one of the litmus tests that
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: we had last year was the playoff game against the Rafts.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: The Rams took seattles to test and almost was you know,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: was there to go to the Super Bowl, and what
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: we did. We we took the rafts to task. And
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: if you're looking at uh if, if there's any parallel
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: with that, you got to say to yourself, man, that
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Carolina panthers on the up, an upswing, on an up move,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: and here it is too. We made some really good adstance.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: What I thought from defensively that we were lacking last year.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I thought we made some really good milestones. And in
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: defense were Dayla Phillips and Douvin Lloyd.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: I said, wow, really, botifarm could really change the you know.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Our defense and well, we did not do last week
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: were lacking.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: So I've upgraded.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I really believed that we made some really big improvement.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: And I think that the national media is just not
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: recognizing that.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Uh, Eugene, let me put you on hold here with
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Fiddy because your your phone's a little messy here, so
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: let me see if we can get that sorted out.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: But I love the first answer. I love the first answer,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: of course. And by the way, did I not just
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: lob that up to him? I know that it's bothering
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: him just like it's bothering me. I love that one
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: up for him to dunk home bone. That was like
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: a two man game we haven't seen since Walker may
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: one Musa diabate.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: How about what I've now got Walker throwing lobs to
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Musa bro. How about Moosa's off season videos? Not only
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: and I don't know how we just turned this into
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: but Charles Lee's coming at nine o'clock, so we can
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: turn this into the Hornets. How about Moosa's off season videos?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Not only is he working in the gym like crazy
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: pump and iron because he is one of the many
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: dudes gotta get more physical and stronger on the team.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: He's working on those handles. Yeah, I tried to maybe
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: get some drive to the basketball. I guess right.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: I'm very intrigued, very back that Eugene came with optimism
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: to match yours.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it goes here and there, that dastardly
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: national media.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: This.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: We'll get him back off here momentarily. The phone's a
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: little shaky at the moment. Yeah, hopefully we get to
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: get him set up here. I blame Fiddy quite it's
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: the way to go back. That's what I feel like.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Who I'm blaming?
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: All right, Eugene, we got you back.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: We go there we go Baby Eugene h Bryce Young,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: even though it's year four, still evolving as a quarterback.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Where do you expect the most improvement for Bryce to
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: come from this season from where he was last year.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I think one of the best places you can look
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: at what we saw Hans King did in this first
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: preseason game. You saw an aggressive offense. You saw a
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: office call by Brad is it really pushing pushing the temple?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: You saw the ball go down the field, deep down
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the field, and I kept saying to myself, and that's
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: not even Bryson there. And so I really believe that
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: what we see what Bryce is going to be what
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: we're going to see with the office the coordinator. I
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: think the fact that he's aggressive, He's aggressive in his
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: play calling. We saw some boots and waggles. We didn't
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: see any dashes, but we saw the ball move down
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: the field forty yards down the field trying to hit
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: a home run ball. When I saw that, I'm like, Wow,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: this is a compliment of plays that if Bryce is
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: able to go ahead and be in there and run
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the helm, well, it's gonna make him look really, really
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: good because he has the personnel to get the ball
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: to team Mack. He has a personnel to get the
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: ball too. I'll tell you what not And I like
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: But I seeing Jimmy Horan, I think he is man.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: He kind of reminds me of Oaza King when he
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: was with Tory Hoe and then Isaac Bruce. Ozac King
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: was that that that slot guy who gave people problems. Well,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I think that Jimmy horm may be that guy who's
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: gonna get people problems. So I really believe that Bryce
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: has a compliment of receivers to go and get the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: work done. But I think that having coach isa at
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the helm and calling those aggressive plays, Watch out Bryce,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Bryce is gonna be He's gonna be something special.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I love it, man, I love it. How are you
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: feeling about Jonathan Brooks? See, unlike us, Eugene, you actually
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: played sports at the highest professional level and we were
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: nowhere close. So you can give us an athlete's perspective
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: two on him coming back from a second torn ACL
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: But how like, how do you feel about Brooks? Because
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's any denying that that burst that
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: he has, Like, that's it, That's something we don't necessarily
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: have in our backfield. He could be a huge X factor.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: How do you feel about his comeback?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: So we had the legends go back to the stadium
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and it was like when the OTA's to watch a
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: practice and we walked in a practice and we've looked
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: back there, you've seen number twenty five back. They're like, oh, man,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks. He's a big old dude. So we're just
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: kind of talking amongst ourselves, right, We're just sitting there,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: just walking off and do that thing. When Bruce got
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the ball made a cut hit up the field, I
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: was like, hold up, is this still making people look
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: like they're standing still? Do this dude? Just when you
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: talk about the dude got a burst. And it wasn't
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: just me, So I said I was talking to I'm
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: not I'm he was somebody I was talking to, Hey, man,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: do you see what I see? And they're like, dude,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: this cat can move. Man, what's going on? Because now
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: you're talking about football players who evaluating another football players
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: going hey, there's something special about this dude, all right.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: And so the fact that they would wait for him
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: to get healthy like they did with Thomas Davis. And
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: then you've seen the legacy and the work that Thomas
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Davis being able to put out if Jonathan Brooks is
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: able to do just a modicum of that, I'm just
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: a little bit of that. I'm telling you he's special.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: The dude got this peripheral vision. He kind of reminds
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: me of a Mon Green a little bit. This dude
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: just got this thing. He sees the field and he
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: puts his foot in the ground and he's gone, and
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: then he's big. I didn't realize the dude was that big.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: He stood next to him him like, hey, Bill, back
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: about me. May trying to my space mail's going on.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: He's a big running back. And so from that's standpoint,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, you know, and I know I'm
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: bullets on the path and everybody's like, oh man, the Pethers.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Are great in your mind.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, as a football player and having
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: the ability to get back out there when you've been
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: hurt and prove everybody wrong, improve yourself right, and have
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: the opportunity, man, you better watch out. Dude, you gotta
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: watch out. Because I've been hurt, and there been a
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: number of guys who've been hurt and when they've come back, man,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: they've been sensational. So I'm looking for this young man
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to be sensational, and I hope he says. I still
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: hope he stays healthy because what I see in practice,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I'm saying due he's able to translate that to the field.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Watch out, Eugene Panthers add Darren Waller to the offense
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: here in the last couple of days. How important do
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: you think adding a experience move tight end like that
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: will be for the offense and just your overall thoughts
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: on adding Waller to this team.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: It sends a message to the room, That's what It
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: sends a message the room. I mean, if you're at
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: this juncture and you bring in another guy and as
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: coach Canala said, to challenge the room, essentially you're saying
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: that somebody's not gonna have a job. That's what you
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: just saying, you know, and everybody understands that, and that's
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: the landscap that we live under. So we understand that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: But when you ask somebody's in the room, it means
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: that you got to pick your game up. So everybody
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: in that tide in the room has to put pick
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: their game up because now you've got a guy who
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: was unexpected in that room. You got another guy that
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: you got to go ahead and bond with, and now
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: you got to learn all that stuff, and you got
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: to do that chemistry thing and this and that, and
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: then you realize that hey made the best man win
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: when they just brought another dude in and a guy
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: that they that they scouted, that they vetted, that they
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: liked because he played against the Paths, so they like
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: what he's been able to do. So that sends a
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: message to the room that you have been challenged and
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the Gauntland is thrown down.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Eugene, you you played defensive back. You played a lot
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: of of of safety obviously in your career. What do
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: you think of the young safeties on this team, Guys
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: like Ransom and Wheatlee. What do you what do you
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: see from them?
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I said, you better watch for your job because Lathan
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Ransom is deadly. That young man will hit you. He
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: will punch you in him off. He reminds me of
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of like like remember Ryan Clark when Marion
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Clark was playing for Pittsburgh Hillers and he's playing for
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the Commanders at the time. He would just Ryan Clark
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: would knock you. The next week he would just he's
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna put some on you. He's gonna make
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: an open field tackle. He might make miss you, but
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: if he hits you open field, he's gonna knock you out.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And that's what Lathan Ransom brings to the table. I've
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: seen him make some incredible tackles, but I've seen him
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: make some hallacious hits. And I think that's the fact
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: that what he's being. So if I'm score Skin, if
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I'm Scott, and if I'm a Merrit, I'm like, hey, dude,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I got a dude back here waiting in the wings
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: that if you're hurt or if you if if if
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: you don't have a good game, there's a guy waiting
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: in the wings. A couple of guys waiting in the wings.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: It's really that can take your spot. So, I mean,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: you like being the starter, but you got to prove
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: it every day. And you got a couple of guys
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: in the in the winnings right now waiting to go
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: ahead and improve the approve their point. And I'm telling you, Ransom,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, he has the goods.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: He has the goods.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Eugene, how important is tomorrow and really the rest of
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Cam gonna be for Trevin Wallace and trying to secure
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: that linebacker spot because while we're excited about this team
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: and this defense, we do have a little trepidation about
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: the depth of that linebacker area next to Devin Lloyd.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know, and Cheerless has been making that
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: very very difficulty. You already brought up Devin Lloyd, you
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: got Terrolest, so you've got a couple of guys already
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: in the mix. And then the one I think statement
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: grace that Wallace has is that he's I know, he's
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: been hurt last year and he's kind of been a
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: little bit in and out, but he knows the system.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: And then don't forget he got the green dot. The
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: green dot is that when you're gonna get the plays
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: that come in. Well, that means that if you're the
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: green dot guy, that you're really kind of orchestrating everything
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: you're trying to be. You're being that Luke Keighley type
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: of guy getting people in position. Well, that experience is
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: gonna you know that, that's gonna that's gonna vote him. Well,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: that's that's that's good experience for him. However, you got
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: to go ahead and produce and don't forget. You brought
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: in Devin Lloyd, a guy who can take that inside
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: line back the spot could also do the green dot.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: And I understand to understood that chair lists may have
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: got the green dot too. So the competitions are and
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: this is where you got to go ahead to show up.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: You know this, there's no you know, you don't get no, no,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: third and four prizes. You got to go ahead and
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: win a spot because you know, there's only a three
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: point two years that the player is in the National
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Football League. Three point two years. You got to go
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: ahead and be able to secure it. So I think
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: that Wallace can come through. I like the way he plays.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I like that he's a heady player, and I think
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: we need more activity from that from that linebacker group.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: But I think that the Panthers have made strives for that.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: So hey, this is what the competition is all about.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: And hey, let me just say this too. I'm so
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: happy that coach Canalis is playing the starters play. Let
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: me eat, let him e. Let them guys get their
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: legs underneath, let the guys get the class underneath, Let
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: the guy get communication. Let the guys go ahead and
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: work together in the chemistry and see different different loops.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Let him smack a man in the mouth or get
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: hit in the mouth. You've got to have that. Get
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: your get your sea legs under you. And the fact
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: that coach Canals is gonna let those guys go ahead
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: and play, maybe get a couple of series there. Absolutely
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: love that going forward.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, eugen, we want to smack somebody right now.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: We got here.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: We're gonna do an in studio, Oklahoma. Drill Eugene after
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: that shaken right now, By the way, Eugene, I was
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: looking at I'm looking at your football Pro Football Reference page,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: and the most amazing thing that I did. I had
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: never noticed this before. Uh, you played sixteen years in
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: the league, but you played all sixteen games in all
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: but two of them. That is that's remarkable. I mean, man,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: what's the secret? Heroccoly Broccoli, what what's what's the secret?
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Look? Hey, the Lord kept me healthy. I've missed two
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: games of my entire career and I'm forgetting then, I
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: tell you seven.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: We had to strike.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: We missed three games, so technically this five games, but
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: we had a strike.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, here, I'm sure, okay, my bad.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you so, But from that fan point,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I used to you know, I'm a free agent and
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: so I'm undrafted. Guy, I'm like, you know, I got
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: to go ahead and work and put it in work.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: And I've always loved practice, and I've always loved being
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: a part of the game, and I wanted to be
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: able to participate. So I was like trying to stay healthy,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: trying to stay healthy. But the Lord kept me healthy
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: for the most part of my entire career, and so
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I've been able to play. But I love I love practice,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I love walkthroughs, I love learning. I love the academics
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: of football. And because I did that, I was able
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: to go ahead and navigate the game and then maybe
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: improve my half liticism because I was a smart footballer.
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  Speaker 3: That's awesome. Also, that fifty seven interception numbers for the
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Gang sweet too. He is Eugenie, you pick off the most, Eugene,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: who'd you get the most?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I think I got maybe John Away four times.
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  Speaker 3: That ain't a bad one. That ain't a bad name
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: to be able to throw around like that.
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  Speaker 2: Alway, John Ohood got me too. Now you go to
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: a couple of touchdowns off my head.
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  Speaker 3: You're very honest. Okay, very honest. All right, man, Well,
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  Speaker 3: hey Eugene, we appreciate it. Thanks so much for coming on.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: You always get us fired up about Panther football. We
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: appreciate you.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you very much. I appreciate you guys.
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  Speaker 4: All right, there you go, Eugene. Some people absolutely cranked
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: up right now. And as the radio network, I love it.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, you got a couple of guys that are
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: like everything. He says, the player is the greatest player ever.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: But it's like, I mean, I mean, you know what
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: you're getting. He's enthusiastic.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I thought the Ransom stuff was real good because I
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: gave him like I brought up Oh definitely, I brought
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: up you know, the two young safeties. And it's no
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: disrespect is the key who had a really good first game.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: But like he just went on to rave about Ransom
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: and basically saying, hey, this dude's coming for playing time.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: And that's obviously could be Nick Scott's playing time. It
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: could mean it could mean linebacker playing time. You know,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: if they're not comfortable bone with a second inside linebacker,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: they can always use Merig a lot up in that
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: spot and then put a Ransom on the field too.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: So oh no, mac AI ninety nine Super Bowl when
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: John Elway threw that immediate eighty yard touchdown to Rod Smith,
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: it was.
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  Speaker 3: Over the head of you. G oh Man, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: Oh geez.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: When we come back here on the Mac and Buncho,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: we've got Charles Lee coming in top of the nine
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: o'clock hour. We cannot wait for that. But a forty
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: five going up. We look at ESPN's All time College
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Football Villains list, what would we change in?
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Who is missing? Also, I'm going to get that.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Mc will go off on Brian Kelly at some point
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFZ.
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  Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety two to seven wfn Z, Mac and
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Bone with you. We got to have a little fun here.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: We got to talk college football super villains. Bone. We
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: have been putting this not just your average villains. We
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: know it is the Supervillains of All Time list in
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: college football by Ryan McGee, who you probably hear every
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: week if you're listening to KB every week on with KB,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Marty and McGhee as well Saturday mornings on ESPN Radio.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: He put it together. Bone. It's been one of these
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: things where, like we mentioned it. I mentioned the top couple,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: and I kept making a point. I want to get
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: back to this. I want to get back to this. Well,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: we are getting back to it. We are definitely getting
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: back to it. By the way, We've got Panther Talk
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: coming up. More Panther Talk coming up. In the final hour.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: We also have Charles Lee fresh off the schedule release
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: for the Hornets yesterday and the news that every game
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: that's not on National TV will be over the AIRTV
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: on SECTV or Channel sixty four. Charles Lee in studio
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: coming up at nine o'clock. But let's have a little
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: fun talking about people in college football that we've hated
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: over the years. Bone. So I'm gonna count you down
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: from ten into one. Want to see what everybody out
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: there listening thinks about it, what y'all think about it?
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: And then who's it missing? Is there are the people
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: that are missing from this list? Number ten Caleb Williams.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: That's kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know a recent one that I wouldn't have
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: wouldn't have thought of. I don't know if I would
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: have predicted that Dion Sanders, Yes, cocky is all get
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: out now. I get that he was in college. Don't
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: remember him in college, so you'd have to elaborate more
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: on him being a hated college player. I know all
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: about Dion after that, but the Florida State years is
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: right on my edge of memory, so I don't remember
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: him as college.
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  Speaker 3: It starts by talking about the time he stood at
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: the bottom of the hill at Clemson and taunted every
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: player that ran onto the field for the Tigers when
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: he was in Florida's state. Yeah, there you go. He's
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: just he was like the way I just put it
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: is he was himself just cocky as I'll get out
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: and polarizing. Right number eight, Tim Tebow, What the nicest
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: guy in the world make the villains list? He explains
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: that it's it's not that they makes the superheroes, lest
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: you kidding me. It's not that basically saved the world
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: for four years. It's I think it's not that they
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: disliked Tebow. It's they dislike the Tebow hype. I would guess.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Right number seven is ESPN. He by the way he
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: does this on ESPN dot com. That's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Basically, he says, because everybody, all college football fans hate
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: on ESPN constantly and say that you hate our team
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: and blame ESPN for everything. Number six Notre Dame. Now
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: we're cooking. Now, we are absolutely cooking. Not everybody hates
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame. Number five nineteen ninety Miami Hurricanes. Oh we
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: are really getting hot. Now, well you're really getting hot
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: that era Pickerkane squad. But yeah, I wouldn't say nineteen
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: ninety specifically, I would just include that whole era. Number
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: four the Boz Brian Bosworth definitely a controversial figure when
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: he played number three Johnny Manziel, speaking of arrogant and
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: cocky Johnny Manziel, Number two Lane Kiffin, uh oh, and number.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: One hit boul Coke's spurry is now getting personal to me.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: So anyway, what do you think about all that? What
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: sticks out to you about that?
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Obviously there's some guys that I love that I would
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: take out of there. And mac Guy cross reference with
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: a Sporting News list from a decade ago that there
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: are some big villains missing from this list. One of
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: them happens to be coaching at Chapel Hill right now
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: with Bill Belichick. I think Bobby Patrino would probably be
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: on the villain's list, right That's one I would name
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: for this.
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  Speaker 3: I can definitely think of an employee of Arkansas's husband
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: who probably thinks of Hi, Mississio. I can definitely think
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: that brace.
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  Speaker 4: I would think Bobby Petrino has a stay, has to
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: stay on this list.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just he just definitely did something
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: in the jerkish. I'll just say this, like, you're going
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: to defend Steve Spurger because you're rooted for Florida, And
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I get it's out there line, I get.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Why he's on there, but I'm not gonna say back
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: that he was. He made fun of everybody. He was
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: so cocky and arrogant, and he backed it up. But
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: he was so cocky and.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Arrogant at Florida and and I was in Florida and
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Jackson at the time. The complete opposite him, Bobby Bowden
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: was his rival, Bobby Boden. You couldn't find a more
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: classy coach. So like, by comparison, it made in state
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: look even more cocky and arrogant. So like, how does
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: that deserves that? I loved him.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: I loved him for that, but so I like, I
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: was pur your guy, So I understand why he's on
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: the list. It wouldn't be on my list. What about
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: wood he hates I mean, took a took a fist
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: to the jugular of a of a player. I was
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: not around for the Woody Hayes era, but certainly, when
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: I think of villains in college football, all the stories
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: you hear, all the stories you read, I would think
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: a coach punching a player Woody Hayes would be on
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: this list.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, that's obviously a horrible specific incident, no
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: doubt about it. But I don't I don't know. I
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: don't know if he just if everybody else's kind of
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: lifetime achievement more than that. I would say for the
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Miami Hurricanes, you could go so many ways because you
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: talk about cocky and arrogant. My god, I hated those
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Miami Hurricane teams. Couldn't stand them. Remember when they got
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: off the plane to take on my Nitney Lions in
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: the eighty six Festa Bowl and they're wearing fatigues because
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: we're ready for a war. Like I just I could
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: not stand. And by the way, Jimmy Johnson could go
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: on that list too. Jimmy Johnson, the way he ran
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: up the score on Jerry Faust of Notre Dame in
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: his final game, that I mean, and that's another thing
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: for Spurrier. He ran up the score on everybody bone
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: and they took a photo in front of the scoreboard
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: against against the Yeah, the beat beat the Heels, took
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: a photo in front of the scoreboard with the shutout score.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: So definitely those guys have to be on Urban Meyer.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: How does urban Meyer not on this list?
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, harball Boat it's crazy. Yeah, yeah, they're both
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: not on. There a lot of Baker Mayfield coming in
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: from the text. That's interesting. The flag at midfield. I
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: do believe he grabbed his his Baker's at one point
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: while playing Kansas. Uh, there's a lot going on there,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield, Baker and Jamis. Because Jamis was villainous at
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Florida State. He's now overcome that, I think in the
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: NFL by just being a character. But Jamis very easily
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: also could.
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  Speaker 2: Be on this.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good call as well. That's definitely a
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: good call. By the way, I'm watching the Quarterback Show
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: and Baker Mayfield's wife tells an amazing story about how
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: they had a mutual friend that was trying for a
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: long time to set those two up together and eventually
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: she decide, Okay, I'm gonna go out with him. She
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: googles him and the first thing it was right after
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: he grabbed his crotch on the sideline against Kansas, and
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: she said that was the first thing she found about
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: about him, and that second thoughts as to whether or
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: not she should be going out with him.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Oh my, Mac, I have a question for you, because
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: again I'm using you because I was not privy to
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: him at this time. What about Barry Switzer Oklahoma? Yeah,
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: that definitely could be on rut Yeah, no doubt about it.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: He could definitely remember Dallas Switzer, I don't remember Oklahoma's.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: W DJ says, is Jerry Sandusky on the list? I
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: think they're trying to be a little more light. I
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: think it's supposed to be football villains. I don't think
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: it's supposed to be literally life villains. And you did
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: one of the most despicable things a human can do.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: I think you you know, so, I think that's what
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: they're I think that's what they're trying to do there.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: I think it would it would, it would darken the
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: list a little bit.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Willie P. Mack has weighed in here. Nineteen nineties. Nebraska
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: football is on his list. I believe that's personal that
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: his Missouri Tigers.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Well, but remember the Lawrence Phillips situation that really made
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: and tom Osborne let him play after that incident where
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: he abused his girlfriend like that, that that turned them
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: into villains. Like I know, tom Osborne was a distinguished senator.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Everybody thought of him, right, but that that that was
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: not well received at all on.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: This S forty news list mat they had Maurice Corett
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: on there from Ohio State early two thousands, another guy
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: that although he wasn't around for a long time, he
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: certainly uh he got in trouble right and they didn't
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: didn't He tried to go pro early, right, didn't he?
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: I think he did. He He's another guy that played
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: right despite the issue or something, yeah, I think is
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: what it is.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, or then he got to spare. I have
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: to go back and look at what his whole thing was.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: I do remember he was quite a conroversial figure back
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: then though. Yeah, did double digit win Caesar's varenc State
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: make the list?
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Mac Hell's wrong with you? Fetty? Seriously? What is wrong
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: with you?
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: I hope a woman runs into your truck again today
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: on the way home, just like yesterday. I just don't
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: think it fits though. Like I appreciate a good like joke,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: a good shot at your rival, I just think you
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: were stretching there to try to make it. We're talking
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: about super villains. I don't think that worked. Stretch marks
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Maybe girlfriend it's on the list's girlfriend anyway, Signetti. Roger says,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Signetti's working hard to make this list. I think Urban
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Meyer is absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, the
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: obvious person that's not on this list. Like it's literally shocking,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: like in a sport full of egomaniac jerks, I would
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: argue he might reign supreme out of the number one.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: And I was always an Urban supporter, much like some
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: other people on this list.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: You root for all the villains, but look at you,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: coach k Also man, you root for a villain. Now,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: hold on a minute, now, hold on a minute, now villain? Really?
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: I bet I can google a college basketball villain list
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: and coach KB on that list.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Really, I believe so, oh man, when we come back,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: we cannot wait for our next guest. Charles Lee head
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: coach your Horneton studio. We're going to talk about this
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: very busy offseason, the schedule ahead. Charles wait Next on
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