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Going Inside Eagles Vs. Browns First Joint Practice · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Inside the birds back.
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Speaker 2: What's going on? Everybody?
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Speaker 1: It is Jeff Mosher, Adam Kaplan, and we are going
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to talk about Eagles Brown's joint practice. The Eagles held
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their first of two on Wednesday. Adam was there. I
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was supposed to be there. I had a little mix up.
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Some things came up, so I couldn't make it. So, Adam,
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We're just gonna get all the intel through your eyes.
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So I am excited to talk to you about it
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because a lot of interesting things were said in the
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press conferences and some developments. The heat went back to
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being brutal again.
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Speaker 2: Huh, it's bad, man. It was.
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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I felt like I was
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in Los Angeles because if I didn't know any better,
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it was smoglike driving over at nine am. Practice started
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at ten, and then that it subsided right before practice,
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but it just driving over on ninety five was like, man,
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what of the hell? How did planes to fly out here?
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Speaker 2: Today? Anyway?
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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was low nineties, very humid. Practice was
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hour forty five plus a fifty minute developmental period, which
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is where the quarterbacks the three and four or both
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number three is whatever you want to call them. McCord
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and dtr for and brown where they got their work in. Yeah,
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it's just kind of weird, how like, And I get it,
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threes and fours aren't going to normally work doing the
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first part in the broader part of practice. But it's
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good to see that Eagles do that. They're not the
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only team, as I understand it, by the way, does that,
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but it's certainly good job by Sirianni when he brought
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that in here. Now it was your typical joint practice
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where the Egos offense versus the Browns defense in one field,
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then the opposit to the other field. So if if
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you're trying to watch all practice, it's you can't. You
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just the only thing you can do is what I
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did a lot, and I know you've done this, is
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I'll sit in the stands. Yeah, and he's no longer here,
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so we were allowed to actually sit, so yeah, and
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you can see everything, not everything, but mostly everything.
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Speaker 1: So that's tougher because you've got two things going on
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at once and you have to have your attention divided.
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Speaker 2: So what I do is, it's funny you say that.
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Speaker 3: So I'm like, if you're if you're watching on YouTube,
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I'm like, okay, here, here, here, and I'm hoping, okay,
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get this playover with before that other one gets that
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other field starts the next play. You know, that's kind
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of the balancing act. You're trying to take as much
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in and then at some point I get up close.
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I'll get on the sidelines from the field to the right.
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So yeah, it was I would call it on even
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for both sides of the football. Both sides of the football,
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Eagles offense and defense had their moments. I don't make
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too much about one on ones. You heard what Vic
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Fantu thinks about one on ones. Not much, right, They're
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just fun to watch there seeing Miles Garrett again go
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up against Lane Johnson with something else Garrett, Garrett had one,
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he got Lane. You know it happens, but it doesn't
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mean anything. But it's actually it's cool to watch. But
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I don't I read into nothing with one on ones,
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although when you see just as an overview, when you
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get to see these, I like and I think there's
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something to read into it.
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Speaker 2: Desbue what Vic says.
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Speaker 3: I understand there are going to be ten other players
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with a player in real football in a game. But
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you could see athleticism, start, stoppability for cornerbacks and safety.
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Speaker 2: That stuff's important.
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Speaker 3: How long have we talked about ringos really not good?
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Start and stop. That's a factor and you can see it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I would say offensive defensive line, that's also
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where you're you're working on your fundamentals. You're working on
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this technique. You might be trying out pass rush moves
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as an offensive lineman. You may be still counting your
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steps and vertical sets. However, if you're seeing a guy
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getting raggedalled, you know, three four or five days in
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a row, well then you know his techniques and fundamentals
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need some work and that he is struggling. You know,
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I think Kenyan Green, I'll use as an example where
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I just thought, in the one on ones I've watched,
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he really hasn't, you know, stopped a variety of different
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guys from getting to the mark, and that told me
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that he was just struggling. Maybe it's in his head,
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maybe he's trying to whoever, whatever it is. But I
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think over the long haul you can use some evaluation.
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But you're right that Vic's right. Any one particular rep
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versus another, especially receivers versus corners where there's no pass rush,
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and you have all the time that that's not you
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know that that.
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Speaker 3: Was not fair, right, It's really that's the one I
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was going to get at. In terms of overall making
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a judgment. You can't because he's football has not done
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one on one that that that you know. It's not like, okay,
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it's twenty players and then there's two.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't work like that.
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Speaker 3: But you get to see the skill, athleticism, certain traits
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that you know you'd like to see. But anyway, so
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let's get started on the Eagles offense versus the Browns defense.
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And yeah, Tanner McKee, the more I watch him, the
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more amazed I am. Because in year one, I didn't
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think he could take the ball, he could take anything
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off the football. I just didn't think the tanks are great.
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We talked about it. He didn't move very well. And honestly,
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you got to give the coaches who've worked with him.
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Now this year three, he already the kid is got it, man.
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And the thing that's really I love with him With
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Darius Cooper, I'm looking at my notes here his ability
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because I remember talking to.
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Speaker 2: Flaco about this.
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Speaker 3: Joe told me early in his career, biggest challenge is
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take some off of footba because you know, Flack going
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the strongest arms at NFL history. Now you touch passes
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when you're going from Delaware to the big leagues. And
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the key took a couple of shallows to Cooper. I
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really like what Tanner did. It's just it's it's a
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nuance of the game. That's kind of stuff I look for.
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Anyone could go to practice. Gay Eagles got to touchdown
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on this play, but what are you actually seeing? That's
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what we do here. And I really was impressed with
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his ability to take something off it. And then if
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you see a deep comeback, then you go wow. Deep
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comeback is a pure power throw. Hurts has come a
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long way. Deep comebacks. They don't run them a lot,
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but when they do, Jalen's because we know he's got
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a good long distance arm. But that's not about power,
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that's about touch. Jalen's improved his arm strength. But this kid,
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as Greg co Sel says, this is an easy thrower,
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Tarner McKee, and he that was on display if folks
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got a chance to watch him on Wednesday.
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Speaker 1: Right, And he was going up against the brown second defense, right,
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because it would be first verse, first verse.
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Speaker 3: Second yeah yeah, yeah, yep, yep, so I I was
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oppressed with that hurts shallow to Davante four score Dotson.
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They're doing a good job of freeing him up. It's
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not so much motion. It's okay. This play, he's lineup
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as the Z. This next play they're going to twelve
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personnel because A. J. Brown didn't practice. He was out
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there virtually the entire practice, chewing his teammates on. But
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they're just being smart with the hamstring, which is fine.
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You know, he got worker later this week, so he's fine.
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They're just not gonna they're not gonna force it. Davante
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is just another guy where he's so what he's unappreciated
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because he does so much of the dirty work for
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kind under one hundred and seventy pounds. He's pretty pretty remarkable,
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a nice smith. They continue to reduce him, like he
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starts off a little bit. Why then right before the
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snap they'll reduce him. Or what they'll do is they'll
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move him. They'll start out wide and then they move
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him in motion. But this is another good Johnny Wilson practice,
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I have to say, because we've been very critical because
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it's all been warranted. This is two weeks now and
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the word I was given as urgency with this guy,
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I would give Aaron Moorehead credit. Whatever he's doing with him.
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He's reaching the kid because the kid's playing like he
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knows he's got to bring it, and that is really
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good to see because you can't teach size and he's
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got a lot of it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I made this point with you
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or with Football four Mike Gill or whoever's filling in,
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but I would think that there is a positive influence
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that Aaron Moorehead can have on Wilson because Aaron Moorehead himself.
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I mean, he's not as tall as Johnny Wilson, f
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you are, but he was a taller receiver in the NFL.
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He's like six through sixty three kind of guy. But
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he's frown four. Right. But if I recall correctly, he
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would play some slot with the Cults, which is where
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they're also lining up Johnny Wilson a little bit. They
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had I want to say, they of course had Reggie Wayne, right,
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but they had another, of course outside.
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Speaker 2: Guy well other than Marvin and Reggie. I'd have to
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go Brett Stokely was the slot rightly.
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Speaker 1: I think Morehead was also like a fourth receiver and
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he would occasionally play in the slot as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he probably was a backup X but he was
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also a good special teams player. But anyway, so Johnny
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Wilson showing up right now, he's the four. The question
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is that Terrence Marshall is getting a lot of run here.
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Can he secure the fifth because Darius Cooper this is
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one of those and whoever has that the South whatever
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they call it, whoever, that's a help of this. Darius
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Cooper is legit is right. We're gonna look more into
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why he wasn't drafted, because you can't you watch this kid.
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You go, how the if it wasn't he drafted?
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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, and don't forget about it. You mentioned
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him and Nyah Smith. I mean he's in the mix
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for Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, in personnel, the teams that feel like
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they have a really good roster, they'll tell you, hey,
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you know, we're gonna be cutting some players that are probably
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gonna make another team. I'm not saying these Eagles backups
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are great, but they're showing up.
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Speaker 2: They're showing up.
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Speaker 1: I agree I think it's been a while since the
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Eagles had a good reason to keep six. It's been
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been a little bit, right, I mean even the Super
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Bowl a couple of years ago that they lost. I mean,
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Qus Watkins was your three. The kid from Pascal was
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your four. He was a good special teamer. You couldn't
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get the five and make a legitimate case that, yeah,
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of anybody that I can remember, right, I mean they've tried, right,
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they had DeVante Parker who retired last year. I mean
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they've tried to add but.
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Speaker 2: Former Eagle not legend, yes.
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Speaker 1: Right, John high Tower never really cut it. So I
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think this is the first year in a while where
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they may have to have a conversation about keeping six
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as long as your five and six can play special
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teams and contribute.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's interesting.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, logic, Cook's are not ready I come back from
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his shoulder. So it in Taylor Moran. He's a real
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long shot because you don't especially if if and I
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Smith makes it, it's gonna be hard to keep Taylor morn.
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But man, he's another guy plays bigger than this listed size.
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He's bigger than you think. It might be five eleven,
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But man, he's for a slot receiver. He's got a
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little bit thickness to him, so so he's interesting, to
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be honest with you, they're all it's an interesting competition
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getting over to O line as we we when we'll
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get the running back. There's some really good stuff there
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O line wise, I thought they were leaking in past protection,
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but man, they're run they're run blocking. Drew Kendall. I
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know he's not the big skuy. I know he's not strong,
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but man technique is good.
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Speaker 2: You would hope so.
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Speaker 3: Because his dad was Pete Pete Kendall, he's a good
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NFL player. But I'll tell you what Man and and
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and Stein Stein, as you know, is really settled in
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a right guard, and and and then it was it
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was Toth of course for Dickerson, and then Canard backed
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him up at left Guarden. I just thought for the
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run game, and Shipley was really good, explosive, slippery, he
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look at my notes here. He fits the whole extremely well,
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gets skinny. He's just really good at it. And the
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other surprising thing to me, no one's ever gonna fuse
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aj Gyllen with Barclay's jump cut. But this is the
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second practice I've watched Dylan have an amazing jump cut.
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Didn't even know he had one. He looks good man,
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he's back like he's not just that individual play, but
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watching sixty seven practices, knowing what I know about him,
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he looks good man. They're in They're in real good
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hands here at the running back position right now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like we said all along, it will not be
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a question of talent with Dylan. It will be a
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question of health and so good now, he is the
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perfect kind of guy. It'll be interesting at the groster
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cut down to see if they can cut him and
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bring him back on the practice squad. I don't see,
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I don't no chance.
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Speaker 2: Here's what no, but here's why. Uh huh you have too?
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Speaker 3: You get three call ups? Right, Yes, I still think
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that's the rule. Yep, you got you just the guys
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shown it. Why what Well, let me put it to
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you this way.
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Speaker 1: Why would sing it only to go heavier in one
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area for a few weeks and then you play your roster,
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your your tango and you bring him back. He's a
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vested vet, right sure?
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he could be one of the vets.
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Speaker 3: Yeah you have yeah, yeah, he's eligible to to be
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the parts. I I just don't see the point now
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on But I'll say this though.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't have to pass through waivers.
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Speaker 2: Correct, No, No, he's vested.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 2: But here's my point on that one.
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Speaker 1: Mhm.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned it earlier about six receivers. Typically you don't
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want to keep six receivers they I think you were
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saying it on Football four. I think on Wednesday. You
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can't go heavy everywhere.
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Speaker 2: So if you go you know.
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Speaker 3: The Eagles love to keep their ten off ten or
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eleven offensive linemen. If they keep eleven and six receivers.
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Speaker 2: You gotta go skinny somewhere. You have to. Yeah, but
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Dylan is well, here's the problem with that. Here's another
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reason why A J. Jillen.
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Speaker 3: If AJ Jllen keeps us up, he clearly can be
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a valuable backup. He could sit He him and his
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agent on your on your premise could say we're not
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doing that. AJ will just go to this other team
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and be the backup or or or be on the
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roster to get to get a full salary.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess there would have to be that interest there,
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and there wasn't a whole lot. I don't see him
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going into him we'll see. We'll absolutely see, you know,
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like the Eagles like to be shrewd. I mean, how
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much are they going to use Dylan for the first
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three weeks of the season. Maybe not much because Barkley's
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gonna be healthy, you would assume for at least the
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first few weeks. So I don't know. It was just
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something I've been trying to wrestle in my mind as
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I try to figure out the fifty three. But that's
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for a talk for for a couple of weeks from now.
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So I guess real quick on your offensive line point though,
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you were saying, I guess Brett Brett Toath was once
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again the starting left guard right.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, fully expected that he's that.
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Speaker 1: Canard was second team right guard.
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And then it's in Bryant. Now that that's
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another question. Will they keep three? He he is the
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three right now? Harrison Bryant, former brown There's really odd.
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There are a lot of former Brown's who are Eagles
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and Eagles and former Browns. Jandre Carter, Harrison Bryant. Just
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talk about guys who switched teams. Oh you know who
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is there? He's a you know, the Browns director director
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of player development, is.
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Speaker 1: Brown's director of player development.
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Speaker 3: No, he's a former for he's a former Eagles receivers coach.
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Speaker 2: I think I just gave it away, don't Craig Lewis.
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I still don't know the non immortal Carson Walsh.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I forgot about Carson.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a minute, is that Carson Walsh? And
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I'm like, all, I gotta look this up.
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Speaker 1: That's so he's in an administrative role now, yeah, yeah, he's.
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Speaker 3: Been there for a couple of years. That's an interesting
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highre so e J. Jenkson's you know, he plays special teams.
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He'll push Bryant.
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Speaker 2: We'll see how that works out. The number three quarterback.
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Speaker 3: Role is still the same with d t r a
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little bit ahead another former Brown. Other than that, I
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mean that's pretty much. I'm looking at individual plays. I
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talked about that Dallas Goddard. I know he won't get
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the ball enough because it's got to go through A J. Brown,
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then DeVante Smith, but he's literally uncoverable this dude. I
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did it again on a on a scene passing and
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then on a overall nobody covers him. It's a second
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straight training camp. He looks so dominant, but there's not
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much they can do and they're not going to be
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a heavy eleven personnel team.
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had made a mention of this last time you went,
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and that's the defensive line doing a lot of shifting
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pre snap itself. And I forget who brought it up,
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but they were basically explaining that against the run, it
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makes it harder for the offensive linemen to coordinate their
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double team blocks if you have the defensive line shifting
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or the snap. So good observation by you. That's intentional.
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It's something that I think they did a decent amount
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last year against certain teams, but that does make it
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difficult for alignement because you have rules, right if you're
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the uncovered lineman, you jump into the second level, if
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you're the center of the guard, you worked that double
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team on the tackle or the three technique or the
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zero and then move up. So you almost have to
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change the rules if you have the defensive line moving
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before the snap. So that was I wanted to point
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out that you made an important observation there.
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Speaker 3: And you know what's good, Gabe Hall returned that was
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good because when I saw him holding his arm, I'm like, no, man,
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I hope this is not bad. They can't afford another.
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They were so fin but he got a little bit
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of work and I was watching him.
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Speaker 2: He is so long, man.
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Speaker 3: That's the thing, the advantage of you going to practice
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because I look for this stuff body types. He's so long.
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You can't teach size man. That that and he's starting
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to developed. This is a good job here by Clint Hurt.
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What do we say last year, if he can't reach
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Gabe Hall, forget about it. Gal'll never play yep, you know.
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And he's getting to this kid. Good for Gabe Hall
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to take coaching.
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Speaker 2: This is good. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: The Browns pass the game was way off. I'm looking
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at my notes here. I know said should have got
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hurt within the first twenty minutes. But Dylan Gabriel was
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coming back from the rookie come back from a hamstring injury.
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He was off Flacco and Flack was timing with his receivers.
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Just wasn't there now in one of ones because Flacco
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does throw some anticipation. Him and Jerry Judy hooked up some.
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Sometimes they were off. Ringo was picked on. He gave
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up his share of plays. And I'm expecting today to
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Flacco because when they watched the tape, I'm sure they
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saw that they're gonna want to take advantage of that.
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Speaker 2: Ringo is he's he's.
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Speaker 3: It's it's hard for him to start and stop. It
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just you see it if you really watch it closely.
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At practice, which I was doing, Greg co Sell pointed
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this out to him. It's the first time Greg pointed that
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out to us since we've been talking to Greg about
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we're gonna go for three years now. Greg pointed out
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more than once the Saucason when we talked to him
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that it's a problem and it's something that I don't
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know that you could cure, and it's he was the
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first guy up, by the way, but they're split reps
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him in Jackson. It's completely even Bennett got work with
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the twos mostly a little bit with the ones. He
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had up and down practice. He made some places, he
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gave up some plays. I would not say their secretary
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to play great, But the point was that the Browns
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passive game was not there.
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Speaker 2: It just wasn't.
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Speaker 3: Other than that, I would say that mcouba got some
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work with the ones, mostly with the twos. Brown was
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first up. I'm not reading into anything. The three weeks
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left mcubas to makeup for lost time. They want him
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to start. They drafted him to start. You don't draft
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someone in the second round not to start if the
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guy's ready. But they're not gonna know for three weeks
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until he's ready. They're not gonna know until he gets
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thrown into the deepense, so to speak, and keeps playing,
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and we'll see what happens there. So other than that,
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it was Campbell.
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Speaker 1: Did you sense any a decent amount of edge pressure?
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I thought that this was any for bringing that up.
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I thought was Boy, did his length show up? He's
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only six two and a half, but thirty.
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Speaker 3: Four and a half inch arms my gun to show
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up because I keep forgetting he's thirteen. I'm sick of
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these quarterback numbers for edge rushers defensive players.
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Speaker 2: But he is long. Josh Usha brought it. The energy
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he's got. He's got some explosion jar.
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Speaker 3: You just cannot teach that that that length and man
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Patrick Johnson again, he's getting reps yet another former Brown
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or former Eagle. Obo Conkra number fifty.
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Speaker 1: He's had a nice camp.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's running mostly with threes. But so Ojalar showed up.
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Ojomo Okay, So here's the new thing I got from
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Ojomo because he basically wins with speed. He had an
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arm over move which I happened to. It wasn't too
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far from me, so I was able to see it.
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I'm like, I know there were some minor character knocks
21:08
for him, but he should have gone on the fourth
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or fifth, the seventh. Really, what, what the hell's the
21:14
NFL this guy?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that one still befuddles me. When we checked into it,
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it didn't seem like there was anything overly overly bad
21:21
about him. Nothing, yeah, nothing, nothing a lot. So you
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know what really jumps out to me is the wingspan
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you mentioned with Gabe Hall, and we know that Moro
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Jomo has really long arms, and I wonder if you can,
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if it can ever get some kind of sub package
21:36
where a Hall and this would entail taking Jail and
21:39
Carter off the field probably, But if you get Hall
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and a Jomo next to each other, like inside, both
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in that that three technique position where they're rushing the
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passer and you get their arms up, I mean that
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could be really difficult for quarterbacks, for passing lanes you
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can bat down balls and just general for short armed
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guards to have two really long armed out there, making
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can you know, disruption.
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Speaker 3: So we had the NASCAR package which was it was
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actually the real story was going on well before the
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Giants did it, but just Spags was because they were
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a marquee team. Everyone saw what the NASCAR package was, right,
22:13
they could go with the left and speed package with
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Ty Robinson is explosive.
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Speaker 2: Ojelari obviously, as.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned Hunt of course, but he's not a great
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past rusher yet.
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Speaker 1: Have long arms. He's a long arm guy. Nolan Smith
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is a guy who's got body frame.
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Speaker 3: Moro, Yes, Moro's got length. It's the one issue which
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I still struggle with seeing it in one stay in particular,
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I just struggle to see a big time pass thrussher. Now,
22:43
the question would be do they need one? You'd like
22:45
someone to emerge. We know that that Nolan Smith, you know,
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if you have the playoffs at over ten sacks, and
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he certainly came on for three quarters of the season.
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Speaker 2: But is he big? Is he big time enough? I
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don't know that yet.
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Speaker 3: I will well have to see so that that would
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be my one concerned with this front. It's just gonna
23:01
be a big time gay.
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Speaker 1: Agreed, all right, Some of the stuff for me because
23:05
it seemed like there was a sentiment among those covering
23:08
the team that, well, I'm gonna say that the Browns
23:11
won the product if we get into who won or lost.
23:13
But a couple of years ago, I remember we did
23:16
this pod after you came back from the Brea one,
23:18
and you were like, the Eagles just kicked the crap
23:21
out of the Browns up and down the field. Was
23:22
this a different kind of It wasn't anything like that.
23:27
Speaker 3: It depends on how you evaluate. You could see, you
23:30
could see, really see when a team crushes the other
23:32
one that I've been probably eighty to one hundred joint practices.
23:38
That was the most dominant I've seen one team ever.
23:40
Speaker 2: It was that. Yeah, that was three years ago. That
23:45
was ridiculous. Two years ago is very even. I don't know.
23:49
Speaker 3: I you could, you could make the case of the
23:51
Browns did, but it would be See. That was my
23:54
problem when you say that if you were there, did
23:57
you watch both sides of the football.
23:59
Speaker 2: You can't watch every snaps impossible, right, But now.
24:02
Speaker 1: Certain in general stood out to you that it wasn't
24:05
like the Egles wiped the floor with the Browns this time.
24:07
Speaker 2: No one did.
24:08
Speaker 3: I didn't think so now now, I would tell you
24:10
that Miles Garrett had his moments where he got them,
24:14
not just a one of ones where where he did
24:16
very very well. Jerry Judy had some moments that he had,
24:19
some moments where his timing was off with Flacco wherever
24:23
strong to him. The Browns aren't real strong at running backs,
24:26
so the Eagles didn't have a problem slowing up their
24:29
run game. Again, I don't, I don't know but that
24:33
that's very subjective that this one wasn't so dominant by
24:35
the Browns that you could say that. But I'm going
24:37
to talk to them later today, and I'm i'll uh,
24:40
I'm very curious.
24:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm I'm. I always like that when you
24:44
sort of go behind the scenes and talk to some
24:45
people about it and come back with even better.
24:47
Speaker 3: Happened to tell you, well, not only happened to tell
24:49
you if they did what I'm I'm just joking, but
24:52
because I know, as I talked about this two years ago,
24:55
they were not happy with their performance in twenty two
24:57
and they kind of brought it here in Philly two
24:58
years ago.
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Speaker 2: They were embarrassed.
25:01
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, I'm speaking for them just based
25:03
on three or four conversations I had three years ago, right,
25:06
I don't think they were real happy. Plus it was
25:08
in their own building three years ago. Bria.
25:11
Speaker 2: I'll say this one, it was really weird because I
25:13
don't believe.
25:15
Speaker 3: There are very few It was either closed to the
25:19
public or there are very few fans there because I
25:22
remember being very quiet. M m.
25:24
Speaker 2: This one was not. It was very lively. Pretty good
25:26
crowd there by the way at Never Care.
25:31
Speaker 1: All right, cool, cool, Well, they got one left before
25:34
Saturday's preseason game. It'll be today. I'll be there, so
25:37
we'll have it all well uncovered and we'll do another
25:40
one of these and hopefully maybe we can get Andrew
25:42
in and do a roundtable discussion and wrap it all off.
25:45
Speaker 2: That would be good.
25:46
Speaker 1: So stay tuned on Inside the Birds because we will
25:49
have these joint practices. We'll have more intel than anybody
25:52
can give you between all three of us. So that's
25:54
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