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  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for liftoff. What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a.
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  Speaker 2: ToeTag and Tambo, back for another edition of Takedown Breakdown
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  Speaker 2: here on the Ship It Nation YouTube station, breaking down
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  Speaker 2: all things Week 3 NFL DFS. Got my guy, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Matty Bellman, here with me, Bellman967, with me this week
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  Speaker 2: for the guest. Matt, what's going on, my friend? Week 3,
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  Speaker 2: not quite over yet. We still got a big game
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  Speaker 2: tonight to get to, and we'll preview that, and then tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: or this afternoon, actually, Title and myself, Hoops Out, will
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  Speaker 2: be on for the main... for the showdown shipper show,
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  Speaker 2: but how you doing my friend? How was your Sunday?
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  Speaker 1: Doing well, man. Happy to be out here with you Mondays. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Sunday was okay. DFS wise was pretty blah, like nothing great,
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  Speaker 1: nothing too awful, you know, lost a little bit of money,
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  Speaker 1: which is the nature of GPPs more often than not.
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  Speaker 1: So that is what it is. Happy to see the
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  Speaker 1: Browns get another dub to Sean Watson, man. He looks rejuvenated.
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  Speaker 1: leading them. And we're happy over here. Big game on
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night this week, Brown Steelers. So Cleveland is amped.
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  Speaker 1: We got the guards and the ALDS. So yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: how's everything with you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good, man. Right away, our man Sully's in
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  Speaker 2: there congratulating on the two seed for the Guardians. Our
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  Speaker 2: going to do as usual on this show. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to break down the perfect lineup. We're going to look
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  Speaker 2: at 1-800-DEGREES-MIAMI. Jesse Martin, Mazer Bowie out there. He had
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  Speaker 2: the double Millie maker ultimate ship it. So look at
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  Speaker 2: his lineup. They took down both the 20 and the 555.
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  Speaker 2: He took down other stuff too, by the way. Congrats
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  Speaker 2: again to him. But just noting it, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: double Millie shipper is amazing. So you love to see that.
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  Speaker 2: That's possible. And then we will look at the tournament structure,
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  Speaker 2: some of the player portfolios. And then last week, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people liked when we did the single entry.
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  Speaker 2: So I think we'll look at at least the $ 100
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  Speaker 2: single entry, if nothing else. And again, you can extrapolate
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  Speaker 2: thoughts up or down from that. You can expand on
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  Speaker 2: your theories and concepts. One of the ones I know
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  Speaker 2: Sully came in right away, said made the mistake of
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  Speaker 2: not getting to Sadiq in my portfolio yesterday after the
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  Speaker 2: Adnai Mitchell news. Cost me big time, but nobody cares.
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  Speaker 2: Work harder. That is correct on the sign. But it's
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  Speaker 2: okay to be disappointed and to learn from it and
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  Speaker 2: look at it and say, how do we get better?
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  Speaker 2: That's what you're here to do, as you mentioned. The
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  Speaker 2: one thing I noticed about that thing, Bellman, is like
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  Speaker 2: all the time, Had a couple of years ago, I
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  Speaker 2: remember it was like Pickens on the Steelers. He was out.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone immediately read because they wanted to afford Saquon Barkley
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  Speaker 2: on that slate. I know this is mixing slates, but
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  Speaker 2: that was the same slate. So just giving the idea.
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  Speaker 2: People could already get to Gibbs yesterday, but I think
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  Speaker 2: what a lot of people did as soon as the
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  Speaker 2: Mitchell news became official, they went to Isaiah Williams. Great
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  Speaker 2: way to get a guy, 3,300 bucks, cheap wide receiver,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not like we really needed that because you
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  Speaker 2: could already get to gibbs you could already get to
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  Speaker 2: pretty much whatever you want now you could boost up
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  Speaker 2: one more guy someone will say well yeah but you
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  Speaker 2: could have got to gibbs and jsn possible but also
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  Speaker 2: the problem is williams fills the wide receiver slot so
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  Speaker 2: is it still possible yes there's three other slots including
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  Speaker 2: the flex there but one way you can always do
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  Speaker 2: it and this worked out handsomely for some yesterday was
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  Speaker 2: sadiq in tight end or however people use them, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying when he's a tight end at the
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  Speaker 2: onesie position, you could just slide him in there and
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  Speaker 2: hope to get some love. Look, he got 26 and
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  Speaker 2: a half DraftKings points. I don't think you're expecting that,
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  Speaker 2: but if you get it great, but it's more so
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  Speaker 2: the concept of what's the Williams push versus the Sadiq push.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously those that had Sadiq were rewarded, like I mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: So any, any thoughts on just a quick strategy, last
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  Speaker 2: minute news type thing. I think we kind of felt
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  Speaker 2: that the Adonai Mitchell news was coming yet. People still
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  Speaker 2: didn't really prepare for it in that way as much. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of things there. One, yes, but also on
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  Speaker 1: that same note, the Mason Taylor news being out, like
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  Speaker 1: I feel like didn't get talked about enough around the industry.
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  Speaker 1: He ran a ton of routes last week. That was
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  Speaker 1: just another feather in Sadiq's cap guy. They used a
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  Speaker 1: high traffic on Detroit. had just gotten carved by the
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo tight ends the week before. I mean, their whole
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  Speaker 1: secondary is in shambles, so you can pick on them
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  Speaker 1: with everyone, but Sadiq looked really good, showed why they
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  Speaker 1: spent a high draft pick on him. You know, outside
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  Speaker 1: of that, trying to think the only other like news
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  Speaker 1: relevant piece that's sticking out to me is Brock Bowers.
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  Speaker 1: And that was one thing I got right yesterday. I
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  Speaker 1: played a lot of him, not in the right lineups, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: but he came in an under 1% owned and, You
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  Speaker 1: clearly didn't need him because of scores like Gibbs, et cetera,
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  Speaker 1: but he had the highest score at the position. That's
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  Speaker 1: worth something. So I feel like just because he was
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  Speaker 1: out two weeks, people were obviously really hesitant to get
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  Speaker 1: to Bowers when coming into the season, he's never under
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  Speaker 1: 1% owned. So that was just surprising to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, don't disagree there at all. And it's pretty crazy,
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  Speaker 2: just the difference. I'm just looking now at the lineups.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to them in a second. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the tight end position was also loaded. So you just
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  Speaker 2: reminded me of something else there. It's like when you
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  Speaker 2: had so many different options. But I don't... Look, Brock
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  Speaker 2: Bowers ended up having the game he did. Jawan Johnson
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  Speaker 2: had a big game. People liked Kittle. He had a
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  Speaker 2: big game. You know, Kincaid was in the pools for
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  Speaker 2: people he did not. I'm just noting, like, how many
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  Speaker 2: Andrews people liked. There was just so many ways... that
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  Speaker 2: you could go at tight end yesterday, plus play double
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  Speaker 2: tight end still, that I think that that was kind
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  Speaker 2: of overlooked when you think about that, the Jets news
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  Speaker 2: as a whole.
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  Speaker 1: Schultz.
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  Speaker 2: What did he get to?
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  Speaker 1: 5%?
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  Speaker 2: Just double checking here quickly to see fastest way I can.
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, he got to 5.9% owned in the
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  Speaker 2: Millie maker. So, I mean, that tells you everything you
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  Speaker 2: need to know right there for that. I guess that's
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  Speaker 2: the 555. I'll check it in a second when we
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  Speaker 2: get there. But just to note it, anyway, the point being,
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  Speaker 2: when you get that news like that, it's funny. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: kind of felt it was coming. We were talking about
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  Speaker 2: it in the morning in the Discord, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I think it still felt like a last-minute scramble for
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  Speaker 2: many just to be like, all right, well, how do
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  Speaker 2: I get more Williams into the lineups? And it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: really a thought as much for many going to Sadiq. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was a spot where, like Sully said, maybe you
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  Speaker 2: want to kick yourself a little bit after if you
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  Speaker 2: didn't fully do that. But I think that was... you know,
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  Speaker 2: another one here, Michael Beer and appreciate the vulnerability says,
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate the review guys. I too didn't get to
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  Speaker 2: enough Sadiq. I had a lot of Gino stacks, but
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  Speaker 2: swapped all the Mitchell to Williams. Besides a couple of lineups,
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  Speaker 2: I even had Gadsden with some Gino. Like you see
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  Speaker 2: that stuff after that's what I mean. It feels like that,
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  Speaker 2: but Hey, look, everybody did it. That's why we're here.
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  Speaker 2: You want to take a lesson away from it and
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  Speaker 2: try and learn and think about that stuff. People always say, well,
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  Speaker 2: looking at the results doesn't help. I always say it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say it again with you on here, Bellman. I
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  Speaker 2: talked about it last week, but Poker players for years
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  Speaker 2: have been going to poker training sites and reviewing pros
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  Speaker 2: and seeing as many hands as humanly possible that they
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  Speaker 2: can see. But you still can't see them all, typically,
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  Speaker 2: because people would only stream so much. When they're live,
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  Speaker 2: you're not seeing almost any of it. Even the biggest
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  Speaker 2: tournaments on TV, you get to see the whole cards
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  Speaker 2: of whatever the TV chooses to show us, but not
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  Speaker 2: all of it. So you can only pick up so
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  Speaker 2: much information. In DFS, we have the ability to be
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  Speaker 2: able to go in and see exactly everything. what someone did,
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  Speaker 2: how they played, but not just their winning lineup. Look
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  Speaker 2: at the portfolio, how they play as a player, what
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  Speaker 2: style of lineups do they build and construct for all
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  Speaker 2: the different sports and all of that. And the way
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  Speaker 2: of the stuff we're going to look at inside the dashboard,
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  Speaker 2: you can see it's all here, the slate review, the
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  Speaker 2: contest lobby, the accuracy, the projections, all kinds of different
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  Speaker 2: things going on. Here was the perfect lineup though, Bellman.
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  Speaker 2: I'll let you take it from here. I know, again,
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  Speaker 2: this is just, you know, success leaves clues type stuff. Like, again,
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  Speaker 2: that's the perfect lineup. Funny enough, when we get to
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  Speaker 2: 1-800 degrees Miami and the double milli shipper got very
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  Speaker 2: close to this. I believe it was a 1v1 of
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  Speaker 2: using the 200 bucks on Jameson Williams, as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: Michael Wilson. And obviously the difference was drastic. It was
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  Speaker 2: almost 20 points. So that just shows you guys to
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  Speaker 2: 200 bucks, 20 points. Luckily it was still more than
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  Speaker 2: enough to get the job done in both places. And skillfully,
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  Speaker 2: because you look at this lineup, um, we are going
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  Speaker 2: to be kind of using the perfect lineup as the
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  Speaker 2: review today. Like I said, Matt, because it's almost the
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  Speaker 2: exact same lineup. So it's Wilson instead of Williams, Jamo,
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  Speaker 2: that is leaving 200 bucks on the table, but Kind
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  Speaker 2: of looks amazing after the fact, right? It's not like
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  Speaker 2: we weren't on these spots. These definitely were, you know,
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  Speaker 2: heavily owned. in some cases, but you still had enough
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  Speaker 2: guys that were low on to make this just an
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  Speaker 2: awesome lineup all around. What's your thoughts?
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  Speaker 1: So a couple of thoughts to start. First off, uh,
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  Speaker 1: first place my mind goes to, or my eyes, whatever
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  Speaker 1: is JSN. And I heard you guys talking about him
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  Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday when I, when I was able to,
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  Speaker 1: check the show in between, you know, doing kid stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And I heard Hoop talking about JSN, about how he
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be overweight on JSN going forward. And it
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  Speaker 1: makes sense, man. Like even yesterday, you're looking at, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the second highest leading scorer on the slate at 10% owned.
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  Speaker 1: He's one of only two guys ever to have 120
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  Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown in each of the first three games.
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  Speaker 1: The other guy is Jerry Rice. I mean, he's in
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  Speaker 1: unprecedented territory right now. And he's still low-owned every week
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  Speaker 1: because of his price tag. So that stands out to
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  Speaker 1: me big time. The other thing that stands out to
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  Speaker 1: me is, and we talk about this a lot, and
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  Speaker 1: I play like this a lot, especially in these Billy
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  Speaker 1: Millimakers game stacks. Sometimes you need pieces from a few
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  Speaker 1: of the games, and this is a good example of it.
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  Speaker 1: You have the Geno-Wilson-Gibbs trio. Then you have Sadiq quad piece.
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  Speaker 1: And then you also have Juwan Johnson from another game
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  Speaker 1: that people liked a lot. So just a really well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, obviously I'm more talking about the actual lineup
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  Speaker 1: than the perfect lineup. When I say it's like a
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  Speaker 1: well-constructed lineup, this lineup, like you said, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: plays that we talked about that were talked about around
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  Speaker 1: the industry, but you know, not necessarily played together. And
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  Speaker 1: then the outlier JSN piece, which is just crazy to
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  Speaker 1: say he's an outlier still go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're good. I love that call out. And one
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  Speaker 2: of the things I think that I noticed right away
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  Speaker 2: is it's twofold, right? A lot of people were doing
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  Speaker 2: Gibbs with Wilson talked about that a ton. Then yesterday
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  Speaker 2: on the show on Sunday shippers, I know we just
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  Speaker 2: put the clip out, like who won the Millie himself
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  Speaker 2: a few, you know, a few years back, but it
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  Speaker 2: was with Gino in Seattle versus Detroit in a game stack.
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  Speaker 2: So he's like, I'm a little biased to this spot,
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  Speaker 2: but he's like, also you are liking these things. And
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  Speaker 2: I said that I said, if you've got just Gibbs
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  Speaker 2: and Wilson and, You have to think about that and one,
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  Speaker 2: be prepared if the game stack comes up over the top,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's with Goff or Geno, that's one of the things.
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  Speaker 2: And then the other side of it is that you
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  Speaker 2: also have to look at like, what's other ways that
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  Speaker 2: you can get different with it and how many people,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Blake and I talked on Saturday about conditional
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  Speaker 2: ownership and meaning like, Look, how many people are playing
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  Speaker 2: Gibbs with Wilson? A bunch. How many people were playing
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  Speaker 2: Gibbs with Wilson with this full game stack, including Sadiq?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It would still be up there some,
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  Speaker 2: but not nearly as much as those just playing the
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  Speaker 2: 1v1 secondary stack of Gibbs and Wilson. But then people forget.
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  Speaker 2: And while this has nothing to do with that game,
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  Speaker 2: people forget conceptually that, okay, how many people are playing
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  Speaker 2: Gibbs and Wilson, but also JSN? That's where people mess
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  Speaker 2: up because it's like JSN is only at 10% on
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  Speaker 2: his own. How many people are fitting him into a
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  Speaker 2: lineup that already has an $ 8, 800 running back and and
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  Speaker 2: the secondary with the Sadiq and the game stack and
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  Speaker 2: the low-owned pieces there. So then that's what's confusing people,
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  Speaker 2: and they're not necessarily willing to learn or wanting to learn.
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  Speaker 2: They just want to deposit and move to the next slate.
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  Speaker 2: It's like this is where we could look into it
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  Speaker 2: and see that– 21% Warren. Well, there's nobody there but
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  Speaker 2: him and he catches passes and he's a, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a good PPR option. Gibbs chalk of the slate for
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  Speaker 2: good reason. So was Wilson, but how do you play
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  Speaker 2: those guys together and still get different? And look, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if I have it up here right now
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  Speaker 2: to look at it. I'll try and find it quickly.
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  Speaker 2: JMO was 11% owned, which is going to be in
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  Speaker 2: the winning lineup. So just noting it, even JMO was
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  Speaker 2: around 10%. So you still had Gino, low enough owned.
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  Speaker 2: You had around 10% JMO in the winning lineup. I
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  Speaker 2: know we're looking at the perfect right now. Around 10% JSN.
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  Speaker 2: Not many people, though, would be playing Gibbs with JSN.
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  Speaker 2: Then you had a low-owned Jawan. You mentioned it. People
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  Speaker 2: liked Shuck. People liked Olave. People liked Vele. People liked Johnson,
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  Speaker 2: but not much. They just talked about him. They didn't
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  Speaker 2: be about him. 3.9%. And then Vikings were not good
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  Speaker 2: enough for me to say they were in the payout,
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  Speaker 2: but we just knew we weren't paying down. Mind you, Um,
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  Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans people did get there still, I think for,
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  Speaker 2: for some lineups, it didn't end up in the winning.
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  Speaker 2: I get it, but I'm just saying for the, for
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  Speaker 2: the most part, fan duel, things like that. You saw
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  Speaker 2: that seven points or whatever they put up still show up.
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  Speaker 2: So I can't say anything there. I really liked the
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  Speaker 2: pay up options. Um, Very surprised yesterday to see how
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  Speaker 2: poorly the Seahawks and the Chiefs both played against those
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  Speaker 2: defenses they were going up against. They could have played
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  Speaker 2: a lot better. Obviously got the job done for the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 2: the unfortunate injury to A-Chan, et cetera, et cetera. But
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Seahawks was just mind-blowing to me that they went into
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Washington when Washington's down D-line and O-line people with a
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  Speaker 2: backup quarterback and Mariota was just able to dance all
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  Speaker 2: over them. So pretty interesting stuff there. Anything else you
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: see with this lineup that you want to bring up?
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Somebody mentioned, I think it was Sully. Double tight end
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  Speaker 2: was coming up a bunch in the Sims yesterday. Like
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  Speaker 2: it's constantly overlooked. The prices are just still way too cheap.
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  Speaker 2: I loved your call out on Sadiq. Like Taylor's out.
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  Speaker 2: Now Mitchell is out. It's like he's already only 3,500.
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  Speaker 2: Like they got to throw to someone. You already liked
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  Speaker 2: the other guys in this game with Wilson and Gibbs. Well,
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: why not put it together? So seems so easy after
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: the fact, but it really does make sense pre-slate as well.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts, anything else there?
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: No, just that like kind of what you mentioned with
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: the $ 200 difference, like the margins are thin in the
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: NFL just in general, and DFS is no different. Even
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Jalen Warren right there, really good game. I feel like
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: people were hesitant to play Jalen Warren chalk, even though
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: with him as the only guy in that backfield, not
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: priced as such, I thought he was a really good play.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: And he had like an 87-yard run called back. Yeah.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: That's what happens. You know what I mean? That's not
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: going to get talked about at all because he still
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: got there, but he would have been absolutely needed.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: That, by the way, that was a crazy call. That
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: was on DK Metcalf. That was pretty weak, too. There
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: was two weak ones. It was that, and there was
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: another one later in the day.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: The Tampa one. Well, Tampa one wasn't weak, but calling
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: back a Godwin 87-yard touchdown was massive.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it was like the Newton, you know,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: when I liked, oh yeah, it was the Purdy, the
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: rushing touchdown. And it was like the perfect ball. Don't
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: lie moment, buddy. Rushes it in from like 35 yards,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: takes it in. It was just a silliness of like
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: a last second push by Kittle, like almost a joke.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: And the very next play, he throws the touchdown to Kittle.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: It was the ultimate ball. Don't lie. Like get out
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: of here. The rest was so bad yesterday. And many
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: spots and i never come on and complain about that
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: but just noting it there was definitely some really uh
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: you know tough calls out there yesterday for sure but
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: go ahead just keep going with this it's that's that's
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: not what the point of this show.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Is no just yeah blatant missed calls too it's frustrating
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: when you're watching that stuff but as far as the
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: lineup goes the war and peace i mean it's it's
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: not surprising that like the perfect lineup is so close
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: to the the actual lineup play just because the actual
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: lineup play took down so much, so many contests. You
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? You're only really going to see
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: that when the two are so close together. That's what
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: you have here. Yeah. The Vikings D defenses are random.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: That wasn't the D that I was going out of
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: my way to play. The field certainly wasn't going out
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: of the way out of their way to play, but
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: they scored a touchdown early and got a bunch of
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: sacks and ended up getting there. And the whole lineup
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: just came together. Yeah.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Definitely did. I'll show you guys this. So if you're
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: on DFSOS.com, again, you can use promo code SHIPIT to
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: get half price, lock it in for the entire NFL season.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: It works out to $ 29 a month or just a
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: dollar a day. Like I said, you'll get a ton
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: of stuff on here. I use it for the news.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Like if you're looking up tonight, you were looking up
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Keenum stuff. It would just show you like three hours ago,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: what was talked about with them. If people, when they
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: were in, I know they're going with Keenum and we
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: knew this to start the day, but just noting like,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: what the stuff about badgent was. You can look up
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: the news there, anything you're unsure of and you want
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: to see, okay, what's been the topic of conversation. Like
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I'm curious, maybe, uh, how do you spell my nun guy?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: That's the, my nun guy.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: M O N.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Okay. Right. So from a day ago today, if you
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: were curious, like, I wonder what's going on with him
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: coming into the week. Cause I'm thinking about Swift and
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. You can just look up anything
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: you want in the newsfeed, but where we're going is
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: slate review. You can't miss it. It's on 2026, all
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: months NFL. Obviously, we're in the books right now. So
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: it tells you, okay, there's the day I want. It
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: tracks mostly everything on DraftKings, right? You're not going to
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: get FanDuel, all this other stuff. What's the trade? Is
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: that real?
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Just one second.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Wow, just one second. Okay, big trade. We always do
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: this stuff live. It's a live stream, so we might
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: as well be with it. So the Vikings traded J.J.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: McCarthy to the Giants for a fifth round pick. So
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: obviously Dart going down for the season. We knew there
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: was going to be some stuff there. So that's pretty interesting.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Will he start there right away, you think? I don't know.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: But if you're trading it away for it, you got
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: to think there's something going on. Sure. I'm not the
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: best at thinking about that, but I'm already intrigued by it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: So I'll have to look into it more after we
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: hop off this. But some people in the chat are
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: saying they're happy. So that's pretty crazy. That's big news
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: to start our Monday. But anyway, back to this. This
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: has all the tracking for the DraftKings contest, which I
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: think is pretty funny because it's the only way you
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: can do it. FanDuel doesn't give us anything. But I
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: know somebody was bringing this up the other day and
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: looking at it. I thought this was, I think it
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: was last night. Somebody messaged me this. if on the
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: dashboard you go down to player profiles and click it
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: it will bring you to the leaderboard so far you
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: know people that have played at least 10 contests you
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: can mess with this for 2026 and again it's only
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: DraftKings it states it on here I think it's at
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: the bottom you just got to scroll down guys or
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: maybe I'm missing it but anyway um It tells you everything.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: There's a tutorial there. It explains that it's only for
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: the DraftKings contest. It's just kind of like a winnings board.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: These people have won way more than this to start
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: the season, probably, especially if you include FanDuel. They're not
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: going to put up a P & L or something
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: like that. But 1-800-DEGREES-MIAMI, he's like, I haven't been playing
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: that much. I messaged him, congratulated him last night. He says,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I haven't really been playing that much, but he said
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: it was awesome to get this to happen pretty quickly
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: like that. So if you look, like Mock Lovin', Volume
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: for Days, Uticao, Shady, all the volume that they're playing.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: 92 contests tracked that are equivalent to the others that
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: are tracked on here and already the winningest player. Obviously,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: you win two Millies, makes that pretty easy. But going
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: into looking at the contest, going back here, We can
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: look at the $ 20 milli first and you'll see, you know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: still some crushers up there. Hishboo has been on a
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: tear too, I believe. So if you look, you know,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: he's been around forever crushing, but you know, great dude
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: just up there with them. But 1-800-DEGREES-MIAMI had that lineup
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: we just talked about. It's Gino, Jameer, Warren. Wilson, JSN, Sadiq, Jawan, Vikings.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: The only difference, like I said, was it spent the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: 50K and played JMO. Instead of that, if you click
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: on 1-800-DEGREES-BIAMI, it's this contest. You can see 10 lineups
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: in this contest. And then I believe played the same 10.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: If we go back here and we X out and
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: go to the 555, And click again. I actually played 12.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: So I had a couple extra lineups that didn't go
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: into the $ 20, I guess. But this is the.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Might have filled. I know the 20 filled before the 555.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: So he might have added a couple late.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Plus, you always feel better, by the way. Just a
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: side note from us both playing as much as we
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: do and for as long as we have. It always
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: feels way better if the $ 20 fills, but you got
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: your 555 in. Because you're like, well, at least I'm
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: still going up against the way smaller field. It sucks.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I won't win $ 2 million.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Imagine if it was the one of this lineup, though.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine if it was. This would have been the feeling,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: like one of those last two. So you nailed it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: That's exactly it. You don't feel bad because you still
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: would win a milli, but you're like, damn, I could
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: have won two milli. So anyway, lucky for 1-800-DEGREES-MIAMI, they
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: got it in. But, you know, there's always these little
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: nuances that come with it. So this was the lineup here.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: We talked about it. I don't think there's a benefit to, like,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: re-reviewing this in the spirit of time and just, you know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: covering it. Obviously, congrats to 1-800-DEGREES-MIAMI. If those that don't
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: know– Um, they've been playing for a very long time,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: less lately. I noticed, you know, in the stock streets
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: and day trading and other streets on, on X, but
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: just notice noticeable, like for, for people that don't know,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: you'll won the live final, the big FFWC years ago
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: for big money. So like, you know, been in the
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: streets way longer than people know or think probably. And
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: then also has a ton of big boy wins. under
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: his belt. So just to note that this is nothing
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: new for 1-800-DEGREES-MIAMI, but still, it's a huge accomplishment and
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: congrats again to you. So not much to take away there,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: but I like to look at this. Let's go to
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the 12 lineup portfolio. So this is the 12 lineup
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I got up here now, right? So yeah, just pulling
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: this up, trying to see if I'm missing anything else. No.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: All right. So here we go. This is their exposure.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: You can look at it a couple different ways. Sometimes
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: you can look at it by ownership. You can do
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: both or either or. I'm just saying you can see
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: their delta of what they got on Jameer Gibbs. They
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: had Jameer Gibbs in almost all the lineups. But in
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: this case, with 12 lineups, and you can already see it,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: you're going to know it's going to be deltas that
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: are there on 12 lineups. But heavy on Gibbs, heavy
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: on Wilson. Heavy on Schultz. J-Mo was in a lot
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: of those lineups, 30% Delta there. Seahawks D, so I
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: wasn't the only one, right? I like the Seahawks D.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Funny enough, I mentioned that earlier and I didn't see this,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: but that was the case. Yeah, and Trap God says
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Vikings D. I scrolled through some of the previous ones
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: on the screen here. Let's go back to this screen
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: and you can go to the perfect lineup again. Where's
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: it at? Down here. If you see here too, you
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: can also see alternates and like Jags D, 2% owned, 2,900,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: put up almost 16. Again, you want the 17 for 3,100,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: but just saying if you landed there, you still would
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: have been more than fine. Chargers with a cheap D
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: that came through, funny enough, down here at 2,200, which
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: is somewhat interesting because if you're not going to be
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: on Kincaid, you're not going to be on Josh Allen.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I always say this. It's never a problem to go
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: against them, not because it necessarily hurts them. It's just,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: you know, that line of your lineup already doesn't have them.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: You're already saying like, I'm not playing them. So it's like,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: why not at least have the cheap D there where
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: it would hurt that many lineups that are in on
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: that game or that spot or whatever it might be.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: So little, little things like that, but just going back
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: to it, does anything else stand out here for you?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: When you look at the portfolio, like still had 25%
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Williams, right? Um, on Judarian price, that's another one.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: So Judarian price is what got me yesterday. I don't
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: know why I got sucked into that, but just in general,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: a full go waiting for a smash spot, going up
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: against Washington with no line, no D line in a
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: game where you would think that they would just go
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: in there and crush, uh, Didn't work out, but it
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: certainly cost me. I had a 2v2 on FanDuel. That
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: was Jadarian Price and the Saints D. That could have
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: been Jalen Warren and either the Tennessee Titans or the
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Browns D. And it would have been 100K to 175K,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: depending on second or third in the big milli over
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel. I still cashed it with the ticket there,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: but the close call for a big six-figure score. But
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: anything stand out here for you in this portfolio? It
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: looks pretty sound.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks... Yeah, it looks real sad. And he just,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: you know, he had that one lineup come together. Um,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you know, with Sadiq solo owned, he was what triple
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the field on Sadiq. Uh, and he didn't even have
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: that much of them. And that's what happens when you
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: get low on guys like same with JSN, who is
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: really low owned.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Um, his next best lineup was a JS. So I
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: saw this yesterday to pop up a little bit. Um,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: you know, you're not going to try and figure out
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the Washington guy, but when you're already going to get
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: a guy like JSN solo owned, why not just pair
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: them with Darnold? Because the big boy day could be
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: a big boy day for Darnold. You know, I, I
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: thought it was like a little bit different on yesterday's slate.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: When I looked at that, like just thinking about it,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I think I even had it. Um, where was it?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: So I had this in my notes yesterday for JSN.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: That was not the case. I said, you know, I
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: said not expecting the same result from last week, meaning
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the three touchdowns. He still had a very big day,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: but we'll definitely go back to JSN and another really
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: good matchup for a guy that's already proven he's matchup
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: proof and one of the best receivers in the league
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: right now, maybe the best. So the note that I
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: made yesterday though, was like burrow. And this is a
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: concept thing now separately. And obviously it worked for, um,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of people, including 100 degrees Miami with JSN
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: in the Gino lineups is like the big boy day
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: that we saw the vertical when the Millie maker with
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: last week. Right. Um, he had drew lock and JSN
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: when you get drew lock, I'm sorry, JSN having a
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: massive day like that. It's obviously going to attach to
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: drew lock just like yesterday. You could have attached to Darnold.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: But some of the stuff earlier in the season, so
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I wrote this about Chase because I'm the one that's
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: always said this about Jamar Chase, right? If I'm going
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: to play Jamar Chase, I probably want Burrow. But I
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: said I understand if he's used in a similar way
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: to how JSN was helping people last week because sometimes
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: you just land on the receiver in this case. And
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: it's more likely early in the season. when there's so
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: many value plays versus as the season goes on, the
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: pricing all tightens up, right? We get more appropriate pricing
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: based on the results and the matchups and the, all
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: these different factors. Um, I said, it's more likely early
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: in the season when there's so many value plays to
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: make different combinations work that don't require the quarterback to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: go with them. So I'm not saying I love it,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: but I get it. And this is a prime example
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: because when 800 degrees, Miami played some with, and the,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: some without. So that just goes to show, right. That
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: when you see it, like from that setup, um, there
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: was a couple of different ways you could get there.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts on like pairing up these
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: really expensive wide receivers? And like, did, did you even
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: think about getting to JSM with Darnold yesterday?
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Or did you, I didn't get to JSN. I didn't
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: get to Darnold. And I played a bunch of lineups
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: or I played 14 lineups in this five, five, five,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and I didn't play any JSN. So I certainly didn't
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: play any Darnold. And I totally understand why, you know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: your point is well taken. I guess my only pushback
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: on that would be, and kind of, you talked about
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: it at the beginning of the year, so many value plays,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: no buy weeks and guys aren't really hurt yet. So
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I think it can't be understated just how many good
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: plays there are on any given NFL slate right now
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: before really, you know, guys have gotten hurt before by weeks,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: every team is playing before pricing has really caught up
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to where guys should be priced There's just an infinite
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: amount of good plays every week right now. Maybe that'll
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: start to lessen as we go forward. So I almost
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: think pairing has gotten a little bit, and this is
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: talking about more to my own game than anything else.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Like I've overstated it too much. Like I think I'm
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: going a little bit too hard on the game stacks.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Like for instance, my two best lineups in this 5-5-5
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Millie maker were lineups that a similar construction to one
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: 800 Miami, Gino Sadiq, Wilson Gibbs, but I played too
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: much from that game. I also had St. Brown and
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Brees hall. Both those guys weren't good instead of those two,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously the winning lineup was, jsn and whoever
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: but that kind of goes to your point about the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: 200 hour salary difference can mean all the difference when
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: constructing lineups so that's kind of what i'm taking from
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: it and it goes back to what i talked about
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: at the beginning just about diversifying not only your portfolio
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: but potentially each individual lineup yeah.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: So this tool, like I said, is crazy because I'm
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: going to do that now. So one thing I'll add, so,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: you know, just quickly, and then I want to show
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: this off because you just mentioned it and we'll look
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: at them because you're here, might as well. But just
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: noting it, like the early in the season stuff is usually,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I've said it now, it was a leak in my
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: game for sure, but like week six, Week seven, week eight,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: like that's when you really start to get tighter pricing.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: And then it's almost like you need to find these
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: angles of attack to get different on a slate and
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: this stay stacking and all that. But even like one
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: eight hundreds line up here with JMO in it. It's like, yeah,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: you could try and pick the Wilson game, the Michael
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Wilson game there for 200 bucks less and leave the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: 200 bucks and be fine with it and say, at
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: least I got a piece of that game. Or you
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: could just say, look, I'm not on golf, but I'm
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: just going to go to the, I'm just going to
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: keep adding. Cause I'm on Gino Smith here to make
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: it a game stack and just add another piece that
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: would help speed this game up. I'm way more inclined
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: to do that. Now, if the slate had been closer,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the 20 point or whatever it is, 18, 17, whatever
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: it was point gap of Wilson in the perfect lineup
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: to JMO, you're going to be mad. You know, I'll
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: say it like this. you're going to see and realize that, yes,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: it can be that drastic. Hopefully that's what people are
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: seeing from it, but you shouldn't be mad is what
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to say, because it's like, you built the
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: lineup based off the proper premise. That's when people are like, well,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: why wouldn't that idiot just play Wilson and get 20
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: more points? And it's usually not that bad or that aggressive,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: but you get what I'm saying of like.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Totally. Ultimately, that's the problem. And to your point, it's
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: so much easier to construct lineups that way when you're just,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: because instead of William or Jamison Williams, there's, 15 other
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: guys right there that are all viable to your point.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Yes. So for me, that's my point, especially earlier in
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: the season. Like again, if you're already going in on
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the game stack, this is also to, um, Blick and
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I talked about this on leverage lane on Saturday, but
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: we said on a week like this, when everyone's sort
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: of picking these one-offs and these second, they're blending secondary stacks,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: it's best to just almost, um, go against the field
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: in the sense of like, let me just find my
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: spot because you know what? Here, look, 1-800 only had
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: 12 lineups in this. I say only, I mean, obviously
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: it's more than I think most are putting in the 555,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: but it's also, he's not maxing it or something. So
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: just keeping this in mind, he had to make hard decisions,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: but like this lineup just ends up being the winner.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I get it. But let's look for two seconds. Darnold, Purdy,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Mahomes in one, Mahomes in two. That did not work out,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: by the way, including for myself. I'm the one who called.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Maybe it'd be his shot. But he was still pretty
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: tight on his quarterback and game selections. But you got
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: to remember... in this particular lineup. And I think a
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: lot of people have FOMO over this type of stuff
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: is like, oh, but he didn't get Walker or anybody
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: from KC. Oh, but he didn't get anybody from the
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Brazil game in Baltimore against Dallas. So, you know, how
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: is he going to, he didn't know anybody from Arizona
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: and San Fran, right? But he has everybody. from the
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: jets and the lions game. And that's what was needed.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: And then he had the other good pieces that fit
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: in around it. And you just got to go with
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: what you can. You'll, you'll never, if you're just plugging
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: the bet, if you're trying to pick the best guy
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: from every game, then sweet do that. But man, what
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: a parlay you'd be able just to make instead. It's like,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: how are you really going to guess exactly? And then
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: you want to add, things like salary cap and roster construction,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: all these different factors to make it even more difficult
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: against more light. You could just bet a single game
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: parlay or you could go bet, sorry, not a single game,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: like a whole slate parlay and just pick your top
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: nine every spot. And maybe it's less, maybe you don't
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: feel as confident. You've got five good spots, go put
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: them all in a parlay and just beat their prop
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and you'll be able to be good and make money.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: But this is what you have to remember when you're
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: building the lineups like this. So yeah, I think it
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: was a really good job Overall, just looking at it
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: and then the coverage throughout the portfolio. Anything else you
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: want to touch on here? If not, I want to
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: keep it moving.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: No, just your point about like when you listed off
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: all those games, like that just is my point about
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: how many good games there are on any given slate.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: And there's so many different pieces you can look at.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: So it's like it's hard not to consolidate.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Never Mahomes is back, by the way. That was
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: a disaster. I felt like they had their chances early,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: but if there was ever a spot, I really did
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: like the leverage to Walker, but tried to call my shot.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Didn't work. Played him in my 555. It was not good.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll grab that in a second too when we
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: do yours. I do want to show off. I do
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: want to say a quick shout out though. We've seen
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: this a couple of times this season already. Peter Gibbons,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: obviously the top DFS pros that we talk about all
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: the time. And I've been fortunate enough to be in
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: enough of these live finals to meet these guys and
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: they're all great people. But this is awesome too. Like
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: if you look here in the 555, they're not going
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: to say it's awesome. Trust me, but you know, it
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: is what it is. You're coming off a million dollar win.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: So Lavertical fourth in the big 555 milli the week
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: after shipping it and winning it. So, you know, that
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: is still right back in the hunt. Just to show
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: you guys, if you, you know, you put the, put
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: the work in and be consistent, you know, you can
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: get these runs of this.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: He took down the 3180 too. He took down the
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: 3180 for 200K. Oh, there you go.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: So I'll pull it up in a sec. Congrats, man.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: That's just amazing. He's just an awesome dude. I met
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: him and his brother at one of the live finals
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: he brought out and some of their friends and stuff
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: like that. He's buddies too with BP because they're both
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: young gunners. If you think DFS is dead, LaVertical looks
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: like he's 15 years old. legit i'm not making fun
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: of him it's just awesome like he's just a young
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: dude and bp we always make fun of you know
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: he looks like he's 18 17 he's also looks very
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: young these two are just crushers and bp came third
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: to the vertical last week so he's probably hating these
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: finishes but he's got his in the past and i'm
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: sure he'll get another one very soon but just looking
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: at it you know those two being right back in
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: the hunt you said he took down the 3180 there
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: it is luxury box yeah man look at these killers Lavertical, Shady,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Need Lunch Money, Shark, Peter Gibbons back in the mix,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: like just crushing it. So his lineup there, Lavertical had Shuck, Olave, Johnson.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: He had Gibbs, Warren. Who else did he have? Wilson
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: with Gibbs. Ted Hurst into the lineup there. Very nice.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Played James Cook and the Jags D. That's a nice lineup, man.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Blew out the field. Pretty much a boat race for
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: that field. 218.9, but that's, That's a really nice lineup there. Um,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: in this one, let's see if we can pull this
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: up real quick. Had the max. I think the max
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: is nine, one out of nine. You only need one baby.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: That's how you get it done. Let's go down and
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: look at this just to see again. But, uh, yeah, 49, nine,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: 218 points. The ownership is right here. You can see
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Ted Hearst was at 0.3% ownership. So nice little, uh,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: nice little one off there. Got a piece of that
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Buffalo game. Had the Gibbs-Wilson set up, had the stack
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: with New Orleans, the Jags D, played Lawrence, played Lamar, Lawrence, Deshaun,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: your boys in there. Trevor Lawrence, my homes, Trevor Lawrence,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen. So, you know, stayed pretty tight though. I
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: think that's another thing to look at and keep in mind.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Like everyone always says like, Oh, if I had one 50,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: I do this, but these players are winning in one
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: 50 and they're winning in the small fields too. But
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: you got to look at what they're doing. What are
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: they doing? And, you know, I think it's still pretty
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: condensed quarterback pool. Like, yeah, you get the one Josh
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Allen out of the nine, you get the one to Sean,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: you get the one Lamar, but after that, and the
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: one shock, but after that it was all Trevor Lawrence.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: So it's like, that's kind of the setup where it's like, I'm, I'm,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: sticking to Trevor Lawrence and then I'll add my one-offs
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: of the others but the core was uh set up
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: on Trevor Lawrence didn't need him to come through because
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: got there the other way all right if you go
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: to uh player profiles I'm going to do it this
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: way actually and you go to Bellman it knows you
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: it knows the number one Bellman to bring up right
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: there playing the most contests of anybody in the mix
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: and I can go down and I can go to
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: view details for NFL. I can find the five 55
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: and view the lineups from yesterday. I could see that
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: you had 14 lineups. You cashed five. You, you used
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: up most of your salary and most of those lineups.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: You played a pool of 46 unique players. I can
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: then check by exposure. I can check by ownership, what
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: your deltas were. You were underweight on Garrett Wilson. Obviously
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: it didn't work out. You were underweight on that, that,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: secondary stack of those two as a whole, you're underweight
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: on Walker, but you said you want to look at
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: your two best lines. You can also see things just
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: so people know of like how much of each team
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: you had exposure to. And then you can also see
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: what you used at flex, right? So you had 50%
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: running back in the flags. You had 36% tight as
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you were, you were 36% tight end in the flags,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: which was nice yesterday and could have worked out, but
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: here's your best two lineups. You want to look at these?
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: You said, Yeah, because it's kind of like a combination
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: of both games I liked a lot and I just
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: didn't play the right pieces together. The first one, as
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I mentioned, almost got there. If that game extends more,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: if Geno doesn't lose that fumble, you never know what happens.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: If that game goes to overtime, etc. But the Amon
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Ra Breeze instead of JSN and whoever it was, it
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: was a killer. And then you look at the second lineup,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: it's a couple of things. I was way higher on
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: the field on Jalen Warren. He wasn't in my best lineup.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson and Bowers were two guys I was over
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the field on. So it was almost like one of those,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I wish I could combine the lineups, but I'm sure
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of people say that the day after, you
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. One note I'll say though, this first lineup,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I believe is exactly how hoop won the Millie. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: can't remember.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: It is because I played, I had a lineup that
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: did really well that day. Obviously it wasn't a Millie maker,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: but it was like a basic full on stack with like,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: The reason I see it that way though, is because
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: this was a, I think you went one more. So
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I think who played a three, four that day, which
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: means like he went with Gino and two of his
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: guys with four from the other side. So people were
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: calling it unconventional, but then I believe he had, I
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: know he had Josh Jacobs in the flex on the
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Raiders at that time. And then whatever defense you went for, for,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: but I know sometimes people look at this as like, again,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: it's not, but just noting it. Some people look at
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: it unconventional because they're like, you have, you know, four
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: guys from the other side, but you didn't use their quarterback.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: You use the guy that you, but you use the
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: guy that you could afford to get all these. There's
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: nobody on this list that people were not talking about.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: At least some, we talked about Sadiq off the top
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: of the show, but Gino, it still gets spread out.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: But the only real big ownership was like Gibbs. I'm
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: in rather in comparison, half the ownership, pretty much half,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: call it half just under, of both Wilson and Gibbs.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: So like even mixing him in, how many people even
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: had all of that together? And then Jamo, almost half
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: of him. Sadiq, only five. Laporta at 11. This is
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: a sick lineup. Like you said, what if it does
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: keep going or we get OT or something like that?
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: That would have been nuts, but... Hey, speaking of the man, TigerVault23,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: that's Josh from DFSOS.com. The owner says, LaVertical also shipped
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: the Showdown Wildcat for 100K yesterday. Insane heater. He's been
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: all over the DFSOS daily slate winners collage lately. Yeah,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: he's crushing it. I didn't even know that one. I
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: didn't know about the luxury box. But when you're hot,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: you're hot. We've all had our opportunities to be there. And,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: you know, winning a Millie maker, then taking it to
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: all these other tournaments that he's winning feels good. You
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: sometimes play a bit looser. You feel better about where
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: you're at. It doesn't just magically make you win. I
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: wish there was, you know, otherwise we just win the
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Millie to start and then keep those wins coming. But
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: you do typically allow yourself to play. But he's been
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: a great player for a long time now and across
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: all sports. So congrats to him. That's awesome that Josh
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: pointed that out. I love your call it like being
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: able to combine the lineups, but I still like the
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: way you did this one. because Gente was kind of
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: being held in check based on all those other running backs.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Bowers not getting played at all, but people were talking about,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: you know, Olave, you know, Shuck, Ville, I would say
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Potato Potato with him, but I mean, that was the
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: highest owned quarterback, but talk about a way to play
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: them differently. And then instead of Walker, I love this
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: one too. People won't pick up on it usually, but
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: instead of Walker, you played Rice. But remember, Walker was
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: $ 300 more than Gentee. So like, again, people don't always
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: see that for what it is. They see Game Stack and, oh,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: this guy played Rice. Like, it's more, there's levels to it.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: And it's like, if you're not, if you're playing Gentee
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: because he also makes the Game Stack, fit, but also
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: unique in a way because you're mixing it in with
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: these other pieces. Like how many people are playing Gentee
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: and Brock? Well, I can tell you it's very low
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: because not many people are even playing Brock to start with.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: So there's that. But then when you're playing a $ 7, 100 Gentee,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: let's play Rice. in that spot instead. When most people
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: that are on Shuck, not most people, but just the
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: nature of the slate, a lot of people were playing
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Tennessee to make everything fit. Well, you're not doing that.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: You're playing the Giants on the opposite side of that.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: So it's these subtle flips that people don't always pick
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: up on that you can take this and really apply
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: it to anything. Cause people say, Oh yeah, like it's
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: nice when you got 150 lineups, you don't, you were
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: building 14 lineups for this contest. And I'm sure you're
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: thinking a lot of them by hand or like some
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: sort of virtual hand builder ability to see something and say, okay,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: if this, then that all of this, what, what are
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: your thoughts on that? Anything you want to add to it?
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: No, you hit the nail on the head and you're
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: kind of making me feel better coming in. And obviously
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: it's hard not to be a little bit results oriented
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: in anything you do. And because of how the winning
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: lineup turned out and how I built my lineups, I
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: can't help but think I went a little bit too
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: hard on the game stacks, but they're making me feel
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: better about it. And looking in hindsight, I clearly needed
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: more Gibbs, even though I played some, I had like 30%.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Like in my lineups with, that I built heavy Saints
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Raiders games, you know, Gibbs should have been more of
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: a priority because I think I could have fit him more.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: That said, it also goes back to the point of
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: There's so many good spots. That spot might have been
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit better than some of the others, but
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: it was owned as such. You mentioned when you talked
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: about the Chargers defense, Buffalo, like they weren't even really
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: played because there are so many good spots in any
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: given week. It's really hard to look at any one
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: lineup and be like, man, I need this, this, this,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: and this, and this. It's just too hard.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Agreed. I will say, cause my, my guy Aaron's
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: in here all the time. And like I said, we
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: agree sometimes disagree on others. This is not even, I mean,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: outside of the factual point that he has more bankroll
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: when he wins the Millie maker, he's been playing high
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: stakes for years now. So it's like, he didn't like
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: just all of a sudden decide to enter the luxury box.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I'm talking specifically about the mentality as a matter of fact,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: for those winning money that then go and start doing
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: what you're saying and start entering bigger contests and all
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: of that stuff. And you say increase their odds. First
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: of all, most people that do it go absolutely stone
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: broke immediately from it. You know, I've seen people win
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: millions and lose them, like win a Millie maker and
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: now go look them up and they're playing four lineups
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: in the $ 20. That's another thing you can do with
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: these tools. Go, go check what your shows you're watching.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: People are actually playing. And if they're not about that
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: life and telling you the truth and saying, Hey, I'm
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: a single entry player. So I typically only play this.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: That's different. If that's their stick. But if they, if
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: you always saw them playing GPPs and top field, top
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: heavy tournaments and things like that, now you go look
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: it up. They're playing four lineups, but you know, they
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: want a Millie maker. They didn't just stop liking DFS.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I can tell you that much. They just don't have
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: the money. So sorry to tell you like it is,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: but it's, it's the facts of this game.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: So.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Bankroll management critical. It gets brushed off because people say, ah,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I hear it again. Bankroll management contest selection. It gets
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: brushed off. I'm telling you, people win a million dollars.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Use 100K.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: People win 100K off of $ 1, 000 and that's on a
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: main slate Sunday. and go check your Sunday night football lobbies,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: that same player who's never played more than maybe two
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: grand in a slate max is all of a sudden
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: in for 30K. And they'll tell you to your line,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: your second line, they're in the higher dollar GPPs with
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: a smaller field, So it increased their odds. Again, outside
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: of math saying that, you know, one out of 300
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: is better odds than one out of 3,000 and 30,000, whatever. Yes,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I know math and I'm good at it. I'm getting you.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not being condescending. I'm just noting it that when
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: people say that, You're going up against the best players
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: in the entire world. It's like winning $ 10, 000 at a
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: poker table and then being like sweet in your local hometown.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: And then being like, sweet, let me fly to Vegas,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: find the best game with the best players that won
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: all their money from schmucks like me. And let me
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: sit down with them because now that I can play
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: in the big boy stakes, they'll respect my raises, like
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: things like that. So I'm not saying you went fully
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: in there, but just noting to you that like Lavertical
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: has been playing the highest stakes for a while. It's different.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's downswings. plenty of downswings that he's seen
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: that go with it as well. I'm just noting, I
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: think there's an interesting dynamic to when you do get
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: a big win, sometimes having that extra money, it's not
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: about going up in the stakes and that type of thing.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: To me, as much as it's about maybe you play
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: a little bit more freely and see things differently as
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: you're not as scared, right? People say scared money don't
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: make money. That's cliche. But I will say when someone's like, well,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: you know, this didn't work for me last time. It
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: might've been a great DFS thought, right? Like your game
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: stacks here. I think there was nothing wrong. We talked about,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I actually think game stacks were a great idea. They
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: turned out to be on the winning lineup. You almost
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: had the full game stack of the one that was
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: on the winning lineup and the optimals and all that.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: So it's not like you were in the bad head
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: space on how you were thinking of playing. Blakely and
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: I talked on Saturday about the overstacks and yeah, you'll
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: leave some places out some games on a 13 game slate,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: but you're always going to leave stuff out. But yeah,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Sometimes people do that. Let's say you didn't enter this lineup, Velma.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: This would be my best example, and I'll let you
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: rebuttal all this, but let's say you didn't play this
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: lineup and you lost even more in this because you
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: lost that money, but this was your best lineup and
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: it didn't get there. And then you say, well, playing
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: game stacks was stupid. Shouldn't even have done that. And
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: then you just change gears on yourself the next week out.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: And then the next week out, it's game stacks again
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: that you need or something like that. It's like people
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: are too quick to flip the switch on stuff and
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: they overanalyze and therefore they end up. making mistakes as
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: opposed to like people that just think it's all luck.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Like you don't just, it's not the same players that
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: we're reviewing week after week and showing you the proof
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: of it that are just winning because they're lucky. Like
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: it takes luck. You do need variants to fall in
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: your favor over, over long-term, but you got to play
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: good too. I'll let you talk to all that stuff.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Anything you want to add there?
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: No, I think you're spot on with everything for me.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: It's more just like, and I, I'm going back to
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: something that we talked about just a few minutes ago.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: The game stacks make sense for sure. sure, but I
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: almost feel like I'm falling into a trap of, because
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: it's so much easier to build. Like it's so easy
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: to put guys into spots in the game stack when
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: there might be better plays. Now, again, it's difficult because
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: when you just look at like a one-on-one example, like,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: you're not playing Michael Wilson over Jamison Williams in a,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: you know, lions jets, you know, partial game stack. But
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I do think that maybe looking outside the box more
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: is worth thinking about. But to your point, I feel
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: fine about the lineups I played. Certainly the results weren't amazing,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: but to your point, like on any given week, you're
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: going to need luck to be on your side. And
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: as I've talked about a bunch on the baseball shows
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: and in showdown slates in particular, I, if you're not
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: winning the tournaments, especially on showdown, it's really hard to
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: make money. If you're playing tournaments, that's just the facts
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: of life. Yeah.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: And you're going to lose so much more often. You're
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: going to win. I'll just say this, like, um, because
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: you know, this is another question from Aaron. It's a
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: good one says, can you show a lineup that finished
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: two to 10? That is an example of not playing freely.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Like I'm, I'm assuming you're saying like someone who did well,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: but didn't end up winning that.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: You're not going to know.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not going to. This is a concept. And
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: that's why this is important. It's a great topic. I
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: love going in on this stuff. It's what I do
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: at DFS Mastermind. It's what we do over at Ship
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: It Nation. It's like all of us play. Most of
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: our guys are pros and they're making way more in
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: DFS than they are from, you know, working and doing
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: content videos and things like that. But just noting it.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: First of all, something that gets very misconstrued by many.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: If you finish this, people won't like it, but this
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: is exactly like it is. If you finish 10th place
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: in a 555 Millimaker, it's not that you unfortunately will
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: not have the million dollars, the trophy, or a first
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: place to show for it. But typically, just so you know,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: you pretty much won. You put yourself in the spot.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: You controlled the controllables. You gave yourself a chance to
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: get there, and you almost did. Yes, there's really bad lineups.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: You're like, holy shit, I can't believe that one got
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: up there. But when I pulled up that tournament earlier,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: and you saw it was, like I said, a murderer's row,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: of the best DFS pros, they're just, they don't control
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: the coin flips down the stretch of like Trevor Lawrence
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: kneeling at the one for some crazy reason with eight
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: minutes left in the game. They don't, they don't control
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: that stuff, but they put themselves in the position. They're
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: probably all playing really good and not playing, you know,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: you know, not the opposite of what I was saying earlier,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: where like you could play a little bit more freely. It,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: to me, it's conceptual. I'll give you another example. somebody
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: who plays 10 lineups and they typically play 10 lineups
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: pretty tight. I would say if you play lighter, play tighter.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: So let's say they're there. They've been going for two
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: or three weeks in we're three weeks in now. Let's
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: just use this season for three weeks. They've been playing, um,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Three quarterbacks a week. And you don't have to put
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: an arbitrary number on it. I'm just noting it more
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: of like, hey, they're they're saying I'm taking Tambo's advice
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to play every quarterback. I think
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: we showed earlier somebody had maybe it was a little
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: vertically at five lineups to Trevor Lawrence, then a couple
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: of one offs like he's committing to a spot, but
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: then putting his best version of whatever his process is
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: to get those other ones in there. Imagine if Trevor
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Lawrence hits, he could take down top five prizes if
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: those lineups are all similar and good and balanced. But
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: let's say it doesn't work for three weeks. And now
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I know he's not going to do this for the
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: most part and switch gears because it's clearly working. But
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: just noting that people do this in their 20 max
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: or whatever it might be. they now say, you know what?
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: This sucks, man. It's not working for me. I need
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: to start playing way more quarterbacks because I got to
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: be able to get there. And then what they do,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: this is my point. They're not thinking correctly. They're like, oh,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I just got to cover more angles. And so they
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: start playing 10 different quarterbacks in two lineups each. And
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: then they have let's use a big number, 60% Gibbs
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: this week. Okay. And I'm using this week, blending it,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: but you get the point. Let's say for the first
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: two weeks, this happened. They switched gears in week three.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: This week, they play 10 quarterbacks, two of each 20
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: lineups for a 20 max tournament. And Gibbs is in 60%.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: but then they don't over check. They don't check their
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: stuff or anything. And first of all, it's only really, um,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Gino that was needed. So had they have kept playing
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: the way they knew was eventually going to turn their direction.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: If they just, again, you don't know, but my point
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: being the theory works, they, they switched off. And so
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: now they only have two Gino lineups when last week
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: they would have had them in five to 10, depending
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: on how they, they spent their, their, uh, 20 lineups
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: over three quarterbacks. But also what they noticed this week,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: they get mad because they say, man, I still played
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: like 60% Gibbs. I don't get this. Well, you got Gibbs,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: you got Gino stacks in two lineups and you didn't
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: look at your lineups and they were, they were both
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: almond raw or one was almond raw and one was
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Laporta and Jamo. Like you, Oh shit. Well, guess what?
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: The previous week, had you stuck to your guns, you
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: would have had eight to 10 Gino lineups and four
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: or five of them with Gibbs. And then the chance
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: for the rest of that path to go your direction.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: So Gino, Freely is trusting your, yeah, like you said here,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: probably more like this. Playing freely, trusting a good rational process,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: typically correct. And when people go on downswings, they don't
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: always think rationally. They chase larger buy-ins. They, oh, I
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: got to get this back. You know what? The morning
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: went shit for me, Bellman. So I'm going to join
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: the 444 this afternoon and try and win 100K. That'll
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: solve all my problems. It's a smaller field. Oh, you
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: have one lineup that you're going to put in it?
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: When all the top players have multiple lineups.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: And that's typical behavior too. You're not speaking of outliers.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Like this is the norm. So if you're doing this,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: don't think that like. he's calling you out or anything.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Cause this is what normal human nature is. Learn.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Hopefully it helps them. Right. And by the way, I
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: don't know everything. I'm on my own journey. I'm trying
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: to learn as I go. I haven't won a Millie maker.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I don't, I've got a lot of success and big
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: prizes that I'm happy with, but I love playing this game.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I love talking about this game. I love the process.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: It's why Melbourne and I talk about all the time
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: when nades is on with me, they alternate weeks typically,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: but we're on together, all of us and just back
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: and forth. We just love shoot the shit on Monday
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: morning and kind of learning from this, talking about it,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: seeing what we can pick up and hope to be
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: in the spot that we're reviewing our own lineups next
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: week on this very show. It's like, that's the ultimate
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: goal is to get to that. But to me, staying disciplined.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I like how you added that, Aaron, for sure. Like
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: it's definitely being disciplined and sticking to your process. A
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: lot of people change gears. I'll give you another one.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Here's one that I think is popular right now. Chasing
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: contest sim ROI. A lot of people are just looking
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: for the highest contest sim ROI they can get because
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: they think on paper, it's the best number I can find.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: It's like when people used to chase projected points. Yeah,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: you want the best projected lines. And by the way,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: 10 years ago, been doing this a long time as
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: of you, that would work for you. If you had
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: some way of getting to the best projected points lineups
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: then and you had good projections of your own before
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: the industry had anything, yes, that was the way to
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: win and it's still helpful. I'm just noting, That a
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: lot of times people are like, you know, looking for
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: some magic truth serum and having good Contest Sim ROI
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: is solid, but you have to remember it's on, you know, 10,000
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: simulations and it's over all these periods of time, but
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: we're only going to play one slate yesterday. There's only,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: it's only going to play out one time in the end.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: So it's, you know, all these things do work in
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: your favor, and I use those numbers myself and to
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: my advantage. But I'm saying when people just chase, like
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: they're selecting one lineup for their single entry tournament, and
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: they just go immediately to the highest contest sim ROI,
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: even though the projection might not be anywhere near good
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: for the field size. There's too many other factors that
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: go to it. We're not going to run through all
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: of them here, but just noting it, they're not actually
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: considering that.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: A lot.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: And that's where I'm saying people don't recognize that there's
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: different levels to it. They just chase the next shiny
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: new toy and be like, okay, this is what's going
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: to solve my DFS problems. It's not how it works. Unfortunately,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I wish it did. And I want everyone to continue
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: to play this game and have fun and win. And
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: we can keep this thing rolling. And that's the hope.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: but really you can only focus on yourself. And that's
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: a bit selfish. What we try and give back via
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: shows like this, but you, you got to work on
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: your own game until I liked where Aaron said freely
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: equals discipline. That, that is something to think about, right?
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: You got to stay disciplined for sure. With all the
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: facets of your game, roster construction, bankroll management, Contest selection,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: lineup selection, learning what all of that stuff means and
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: how it works cohesively, right? It's totally different, right? Your
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: lineup selection is different than your contest selection as well.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: So lots of different topics that we cover over at
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Chibbit Nation and dfsmastermind.com. But any follow-up on that from you, Belen?
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: No, I really like that freely equals discipline just because
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: it's so easy to not correlate the two together, but
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: they're extremely correlated. And- I just love that call out,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: but I'm with you on everything. I mean, we know
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: we've been doing this for a while. It's human nature
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: to want to get back in it. I mean, even myself,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: like I've rode the wave, you know, for years when
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going, when I'm not going well, like, I feel
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: like I can't wait for that next slate. Cause I
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: need that next slate to start where, when I'm in
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: a really good zone, like I don't care when the
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: next slate is I'm chilling. I'm good. The slate will
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: come when it comes. So just being able to have
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: that like peace of mind that I don't even have
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: the word for it, but exactly what you're talking about.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: It's just, it's, it's being able to have like a
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: strong mentality, right? It's more mental than people realize this game.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Obviously we're hobby. Like, I don't even think people really
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: fully understand or think about it. Like, you know, I've,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: I've had to come on and I say had to,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: it's like, again, I love doing it, but I got
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: to be vulnerable myself with you guys. I talk about
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: it like I wanted to take the nobody cares, work
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: harder sign some weeks and throw it in the garbage
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: because it's like, look, I just took the bad, like
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: a terrible beat yesterday for all this money. I was
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: this close to like one thing I had to change
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: or maybe I was off a little bit in my
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: process or whatever. It's my fault. I need to own that.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: But it's like, man, I do care actually, you know,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: it's bothering me enough. And now I got to go
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: freaking talk about all this other shit and who won
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: and all this, you know what I mean? That type
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: of stuff sometimes can, as much as we love the
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: game can get to you a little bit, but again,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: ultimately you can't complain. You got to move on. You
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: got to learn from it. And I think that's the key, right?
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I'll go back to this one too. Again, good ideas,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: bad ideas. You don't need a show for this, right?
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: You don't, this is not a show how to react
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: rationally to recent results. This is exactly what I'm talking about.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: What I just said, you just need to recognize that
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: it's a long game to Matt's point. It's he was
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: just vulnerable himself and saying that someone, when it's going
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: bad or I'm losing or anything like that, I'm looking
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: for the next slate. He's saying when you're winning, you're like,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: I'm good, man. Like I already like the next slate's
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: tonight and I'll get to it when I get to
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: it and I'll play it good again. I'm obviously good.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: I just won. You get that feeling in that high
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: of like, I know I can do this and I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: just proved it again last night. And then you go
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: into Monday Night Football and you do your normal day.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: You get on your show, you talk it up, you
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: take the congrats people give you, you move on, all
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: of that. But there's no show needed. What you need
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: to do is just do what your topic was going
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: to be or your title, stay in your lane, when
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: you win, if it only took a thousand bucks to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: win a hundred thousand, play a thousand bucks again.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: The best point you've ever made to me. I mean,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: we've talked about that often and it's true. And I
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: think about it all the time. And I think everybody
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: who plays DFS, whether they're an amateur or a full
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: pro should hear it.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: You know our guy in the Discord, man? Shout out
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: to Lukey, Lukey08. This guy's having a hell of a
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: season in the baseball streets. Other stuff too, but just
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: I want to note the baseball one. So he got
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: the Sabre Sim Ultimate Package through Ship It Nation, started
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: messing around with Contest Sims, spent the time learning, getting
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: better at the game, and he won the Mini Max
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: in baseball, I think six, I don't even want to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: use this stupid thing, six to eight times, I'm going
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: to say. You know, just skip a number there, but
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: just to note it, at least that from me seeing it,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: but he never changes gears. I know people say, you
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: should go up, you should go up. He's saying like,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: it is huge ROI winning the mini max for a
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: thousand bucks or 2,500 on some nights or whatever it
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: ends up getting to 2,000. I think I saw him
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: once like a 2,500, a couple of times, like things
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: like that. But it's, you want them to start throwing
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: 750 bucks into the $ 5. All of a sudden that's,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: that's a whole mini max win almost. If he does that,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: or you just stay in your lane and you keep
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: grinding and you keep turning small money into huge money.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: And then eventually you'll take your shots, treat yourself a
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: little bit, move up as you feel comfortable with it.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: But too many people are like, boom, I want a thousand.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: It's the, you know, it's I'm onto the net. You
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: know what? Three 33 tonight. I can put three in
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: that now and have three shots at 150 K.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Sign me up. Well, everybody else has one 50 or
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: whatever the max number is a bunch of people, not everybody,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: but you know what I mean? And like, yeah. One
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: injury dart out for the slate last week on showdown.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Whoops.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: All that hard work to win your thousand dollars and
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: you just buried it on something you have no control over,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: or you could just try and replicate it a bunch
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: of times. That sounds pretty cool to me as well.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: And I've ranted about this Tambo tangent, if you will,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: many times where it's like, um, man, it sucks. I
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: never win, you know, 10K. I'm just going to go
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: up and start trying to win 10K now. It's like,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: have you ever won a thousand? No, but like people
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: are trying to skip steps. The good news, the best
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: part of DFS is you could skip full steps. You
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: could never win a thousand, never win 10,000, but all
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: of a sudden your big day is a hundred K.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Like it's possible. That's the best part about DFS. But
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: so many people are trying to like get, they just
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: want to make it happen fast and overnight. And it's
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: like the good news about DFS, there can be overnight success.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: There can be a big win that just happens out
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: of the blue or out of nowhere, but chasing it
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: is not disciplined to what we talked about and kind
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: of the theme of this show. So thought I would
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: bring that up just to be, you know, added on there.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: But our guy, Luke, he's the man for just staying
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: in his lane, continuously having success and he'll move up
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: at his own pace. That's what I think. All right.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: That's a great call.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Round it up, man. I got the, the final, um,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: set up here was the single entry. People want to
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: look at obviously the winning lineups yesterday looked pretty similar.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Like it was still a G it's what, how many
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: different is it? Gino Jameer, JSN, Wilson, Sadiq got away
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: with Williams, got Kittle though. That, that helped Titan still
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: came through. Like the, these are the types of lineups
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: where you're just like, man, the weeks. I mean, sorry.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: We're like the lineups are all just going to be
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: so similar. And this is good.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. This is a good example of people talk
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: about like playing single entry drastically different from like large
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: field tournaments. And I just disagree with that, especially when
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: you're in a single entry like this size with what,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: how many people are in this tournament?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: This one had 4,444 entries. Okay. And it's a hundred
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: K to first. So extremely top heavy. This is the $ 100,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: by the way, that everybody likes to play. Not to
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: cut you off, but I'll let you keep going. But
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: this is what people want to play, right? Like, I
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: got $ 100. I'm less than 5,000 people. We're all equal
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: with one lineup apiece. And I can win $ 100K in $ 40K, $ 20K, $ 10, 000, whatever.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: But carry on. But yeah, that's the tournament we're talking about.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: So I like where you're going with this thought.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: The lineup you need to win it isn't that much
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: different than it took to win down, like, the 5-5-5
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Millie maker with 5,000, you know, 1,000 more people. So...
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Just goes to show you, I think that people who
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: play single entry, much different from large field GPPs, are
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: just doing it wrong. Now, that said, there are all
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: sorts of types of different single entries. If you're playing
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: a 10-man single entry, certainly that's way different. But these
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: very top-heavy, large field single entries, I personally treat the
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: same as multi-entry GPPs, just knowing that, first off, this
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: goes to a whole different conversation of, Whatever contest you're playing, now,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I played the 555 and didn't enter 150 lineups in that.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I could have played that much money in contests that
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: I could have max entered the field on. So there's
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: that whole conversation. Putting that aside, even knowing that no
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: one else can enter more lineups than you in a
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: contest like this, it's still just as top-heavy, and you're
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: going to need lineups that are almost as good as
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: the MillieMaker lineups to win it. That's my takeaway.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I love that call out. It's so important to remember.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: You know, it's still top heavy to Nades' point in
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: the chat, but also it's just like, I think people
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: think 4,444 entries is like 44. sometimes it's like, no,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: it's like, it's, you know, they think like under 5,000
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: means nothing. Like imagine, I'm trying to think of like
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: what the best example is, but like 5,000 people in
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: a room, just it's digital, right? Same, same way people
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: enter the money online and it's digital and they get
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: into trouble because of that, right? It's just digital money.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: It's never going to add up, but it does, right?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: That credit card bill, bill can rack up the, um,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: you know, the people you're going against, you just see
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: it as like, Oh, on a piece of paper, remember
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: you're also looking at an app where 4,444 entries is
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: next to 176,000 in the $ 20 Millie maker, whatever the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: number was over there. And so you start thinking that
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: it's small. It's like, imagine 176,000 people. That's three NFL.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: You know, you look at the, I don't know how
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: many people were in Brazil yesterday for that game, but
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: they kept doing the overhead there for sure. But like, what,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: what was the, um, Brazil attendance for that game. I mean,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: the stadium was packed for the NFL game yesterday. Record
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: attendance of 72, that rounded up to 73K. Now double that.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: And that's the $ 20 Millie maker. And you're one person
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: standing there eating a hot dog, drinking a Pepsi or
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: a Coke. Like, come on, buddy. Like you're one, you
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: think that's good odds. And then they think like four, Oh, 4,444
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: is nothing though, because it's not that well, it's still
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: a whole damn section of those people. Like, are you
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: catching the lucky t-shirt they're shooting with the pop gun today?
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Probably not. But if you do great, but it's like,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: you don't, you don't see it as people just don't.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: It's not just an average section either. It's a section
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: of people that really know what they're doing.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. That these are all people that are, they're not,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: they didn't care. Like, uh, what was it back in
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: the day? Like MJ F those kids, man. Like they're
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: not thinking about the kids. These are all people that
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: are ready to catch that t-shirt. You're in a tournament
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: of all those people. They're in the niche. They're in
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: the industry. They're in the space. Even if you say, oh,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: not all of them, it's such a small number, man.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: And they're all trying to win. I promise even my
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: neighbor that throws a lineup in, he's still trying to win.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: So you got to think about that. Like they have
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: at least something. They're taking in some sort of knowledge
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: or information. You're not sitting in an empty section. We're
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: the only one trying to catch that t-shirt, just using
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: the analogy and belaboring it. But just noting it, the
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: point you made about playing it to win, that's some
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: of the edge in single entry still, because even though there's, uh,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: you know, the number might've got smaller, let's say it
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: used to be 10 to 15% of people that would
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: enter a cash lineup and, and just play it poorly
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: now is smaller.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: But you still got to remember it. It's, it's not
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: about what they're doing. It's about what you're doing. So Um,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: it's not about how others play. It's how you play.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: It could be a new one, but just noting it,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: it's like, that's the concept. It's like, I don't give
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: a shit. I say this in satellites all the time. Like, well,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: technically it's still only a hundred person satellite and you
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: don't have to be as aggressive. I'm like, technically I
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: don't give a shit. I'm playing 99 other people and
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: it's a winner take all I'm winning or I'm losing. And,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: or I've like in golf, I've come second a bunch
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: of time. I mean, I've come second everywhere. A bunch
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: of times is everyone who plays satellites do. It's not
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: a complaint or a, it's normal. That's totally normal. Cause
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: we're playing like a first or last mentality, but I'm
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: saying when you play the way I do, I can
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: get second in a PGA satellite with a five to six.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: It's like if my golfer had just made the six
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: of six, I'm on their heels with a five of
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: six because I'm playing so aggressive. It's winner take all.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: Like of what you said, of 99 other people, maybe
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: they're not all killers, but most of them are. So
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know where people are trying to come up
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: with like, oh, let me just play the safety lineup
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: in this thing. Or, you know, you hear this one
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: all the time. Well, I'll do that in my portfolio,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: but I'm not going to do that in my single
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: entry lineup. Okay, why not? Well, too risky. I would
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: take some risk. You might want to take some on
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: because look at the difference in score. Like you say, 223.6
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: was still required to get the job done here. So
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: you got to be aggressive in these things, man.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we see that so eye to eye. It's getting
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: me amped. I'm pumped for this showdown slate tonight. Yeah, man.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: Back in less than an hour, myself and title. We'll
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: be breaking it down. I'm going through the game tonight.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: We've got Philly at Chicago. Chicago at Philly, is it? Yeah,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: I think it is.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's in Chicago.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's in Chicago. It's in Chicago. You're right.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. So yeah, excited. Case Keenum in there.
• 1:10:12
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