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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, August 27 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and
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  Speaker 1: now two Time and TV Video Music Award watcher j
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  Speaker 1: Peace shad Rick like I watched it more than twice
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  Speaker 1: back in the old days. Welcome in Jaguar's Happy Hour
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  Speaker 1: on this Thursday afternoon. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logaman with us.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have Tony Boselli at four thirty Logs, Good afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: What's happening with you? Good afternoon, JP, All's good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a busy day around t I A a
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  Speaker 1: bank field, that's for sure. Here's what's coming up on
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  Speaker 1: the show today. The Jaguars discussing actionable change. Practice was
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  Speaker 1: moved back and actually was in question for a little
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  Speaker 1: while today. The Jags did take the practice field a
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  Speaker 1: little later. We'll get into some of the reasons why.
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  Speaker 1: We'll hear from Doug Ron and wide receiver Chris Conley.
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  Speaker 1: The season is two weeks away. Two weeks from tonight
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  Speaker 1: will be the first NFL game of the season. That's
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  Speaker 1: coming quick. The Jags have a lot of work to
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  Speaker 1: get done between now and two weeks from now, including
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  Speaker 1: a scrimmage this Saturday. We'll preview a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: that what to expect, and we'll go around the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League. Let's start logs with today. The Jaguars had
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  Speaker 1: their normal scheduled practice for today, but they got started.
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  Speaker 1: There were some team meetings. Doug Maron was scheduled to
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  Speaker 1: meet the media at ten until nine this morning. That
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  Speaker 1: came and went. There was a message from the pr
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  Speaker 1: staff saying that Maron's oppress availability would be postponed. There
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  Speaker 1: was no time given. And then there was a question
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  Speaker 1: about practice as well, where apparently there was a team
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  Speaker 1: meeting going on about everything that has happened in Wisconsin
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  Speaker 1: over the last few days. And you know, of course
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  Speaker 1: the night before NBA teams were walking off the floor
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  Speaker 1: and the playoff games and they postponed all those games.
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  Speaker 1: Last night. Some Major League Baseball teams were stepping away
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  Speaker 1: in protest as well. So the Jaguars are trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out as a team what they were going to do,
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  Speaker 1: if they were going to do anything today about that.
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  Speaker 1: And there was a vote held and the team voted
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  Speaker 1: to go out and practice together. Doug Morone explained a
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  Speaker 1: little bit the morning that was at t I A
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  Speaker 1: a bank field. You know, today, you know, decisions to
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  Speaker 1: go out and practice. I'm sure there was you know,
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  Speaker 1: players that you know I didn't want to practice, Maybe
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  Speaker 1: there was coaches, maybe it was everyone. I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, but what I do know is that we
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  Speaker 1: were able to express a lot of opinions, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of emotion um at the end of the day somehow,
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  Speaker 1: you know, come together and go out there. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that somewhere along the line, we've got to figure
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  Speaker 1: it out, because obviously we want to do something that's
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  Speaker 1: that's actionable, something that you know, could could create change
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  Speaker 1: its head coach Doug Moron after practice today logs the
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  Speaker 1: vote apparently, according to Chris Connley, was one vote difference
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  Speaker 1: thty seven thirty six with the numbers he gave, So
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  Speaker 1: that's quite a near that's about his narrow of marginal
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  Speaker 1: you can get, obviously, But the team did come together
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  Speaker 1: after that and go out and practice. That's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of moving parts on a on a practice day and
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  Speaker 1: training camp. Well, I think I think emotions running pretty
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  Speaker 1: high with what happened in Kenosha, Wisconsin and UH and
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  Speaker 1: I think probably a lot of players feel like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: here we go again, and what do we have to
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  Speaker 1: do to make this not happen again, and so I
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  Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of frustration there. There's certainly
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  Speaker 1: a lot of deep thought that's involved here, and I
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  Speaker 1: think you probably have some player that sit there and say, hey, look,
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  Speaker 1: you know, uh, I emotionally can't get ready for a practice.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's some players that's that say, hey, look,
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  Speaker 1: we still have a job and let's go to practice
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  Speaker 1: because that's what we are, we're football players. And then
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  Speaker 1: we can have actionable change at another time. But but
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  Speaker 1: I understand it, and it's a difficult time because so
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  Speaker 1: many other athletes have already reacted. And I think with
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars and other players or football players that are
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out how can they best draw attention
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  Speaker 1: to this so that this doesn't happen again, they're trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out the best way to do that. And
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  Speaker 1: that's tough. I mean, it's hard. It's it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: figure out what's what the right thing to do is.
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  Speaker 1: And it's certainly a position that the players. Uh, first
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  Speaker 1: of all, I give them credit for being in it
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  Speaker 1: to begin with, because for many years, I mean, there
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  Speaker 1: was never a position taken by the players really for anything.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there was. I don't want to say there's
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  Speaker 1: there was a fear, but there was a hesitancy to
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  Speaker 1: jump out in front and say I don't approve of
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  Speaker 1: this and we want to see something change. So I
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  Speaker 1: give the players credit from that standpoint, but there also
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  Speaker 1: is there's a long way to go, a long way
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  Speaker 1: to go, and I don't know what the right action is,
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  Speaker 1: but but I think the players are trying to find
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  Speaker 1: out exactly what that is as well. Well. And of
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  Speaker 1: course Logs it starts at the top of the organization here.
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  Speaker 1: You remember a couple of months ago, right after the
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  Speaker 1: George Floyd incident in Minneapolis, the Jaguars decided to march
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  Speaker 1: to the police station here in Jacksonville and back. That
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  Speaker 1: was in the midst of the COVID pandemic and everything
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  Speaker 1: going on, So that was the first time in a
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  Speaker 1: long time everybody had kind of been in the same place.
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  Speaker 1: And then a few days later, Leonard Fournette led a
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  Speaker 1: march downtown with the mayor and the sheriff involved in
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  Speaker 1: that one as well, and then Mr Khan has a
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  Speaker 1: statement basically saying that the Jaguars will be at the
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  Speaker 1: forefront of these disc gushions here and in players communities,
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  Speaker 1: and so that's what this is gonna be. And even
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  Speaker 1: after those marches, Doug Marone spoke and said, We're going
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  Speaker 1: to dedicate time to this. It's that important to our organization,
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  Speaker 1: our city, um and our players that even in the
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  Speaker 1: midst of training camp when something comes up like this,
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  Speaker 1: they have to give it time because it's important to
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  Speaker 1: the football team and the community. And that's that's that's
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  Speaker 1: really what Doug Maron thinks logs. Yeah, and uh boy,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I give Doug a lot of credit first off,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, these are challenging times and he's having
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  Speaker 1: to maneuver with a lot of different things going on.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you have worldwide pandemic, You're trying to coach
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  Speaker 1: a football team, and now you have social issues that
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  Speaker 1: are are right at the at the forefront of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people's thoughts and a lot of you know, his,
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  Speaker 1: his employees or his players thoughts. So, uh, kudos to
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  Speaker 1: do for managing a lot of that. Kudos to the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars for being out in front with some of those
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  Speaker 1: things and supporting the players going all the way back
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  Speaker 1: to the to the march in Jacksonville, and then most recently,
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  Speaker 1: JP the Jaguars named a person to a position to
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  Speaker 1: help address some of these issues with the organization, with
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  Speaker 1: the players and in the community. Will make sure I
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  Speaker 1: get this right. It's Tenisia Tate who was just recently
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  Speaker 1: named vice president of Social Responsibility and Impact. And so
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  Speaker 1: kudos to the Jaguars and Mark Lamping and Shan Khan
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  Speaker 1: for taking action that they feel like will lead to
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  Speaker 1: more action. And because you know, players are players, and
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  Speaker 1: and so a lot of times they want to know
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  Speaker 1: what's best and they need to find out what's the
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  Speaker 1: best way to maybe go about things. And I think
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  Speaker 1: having Tunisia in that role, I think we'll guide the energy.
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  Speaker 1: At least I'm hoping that will guide that energy to
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  Speaker 1: a productive outcome for what the intentions are. So credit
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  Speaker 1: to the Jaguars. I give him a lot of credit.
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  Speaker 1: Tunisia's Jacksonville native went to Rains High School, so she
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  Speaker 1: knows the lay of the land here very well and
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  Speaker 1: that will be a fantastic role for her. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this comes after the last couple of days, obviously, after
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  Speaker 1: what happened in Wisconsin and the Lions canceled practice a
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  Speaker 1: couple of days ago. The first NFL team to do
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  Speaker 1: anything like that with this incident, and then the NBA
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  Speaker 1: decided to postpone playoff games with the Bucks walk off
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  Speaker 1: the floor, and the league had to basically postpone all
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  Speaker 1: the playoff games. They don't want to start forfeiting playoff games.
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  Speaker 1: That's not a great look, certainly, so they postponed them.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's a big players meeting in the NBA
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  Speaker 1: last night. Would they even finish the playoffs? Well, cooler
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  Speaker 1: heads have prevailed with that. It sounds like they're going
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  Speaker 1: to finish the playoffs they or continue them. At least
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  Speaker 1: a few Major League Baseball teams have had games postponed
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  Speaker 1: or they walked off the field. Others like the Oakland
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  Speaker 1: A's today are not planning on ploy playing in their game.
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  Speaker 1: But now the question today was could NFL games at
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  Speaker 1: some point being jeopardy if an instance like this were
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  Speaker 1: to happen again in the future. During the NFL's regular season,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Connolly was asked that after practice today, and of
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  Speaker 1: course Chris was was vocal in those marches a couple
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  Speaker 1: of months ago here in Jacksonville, and he said it
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  Speaker 1: would take a united front by the faces of the
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  Speaker 1: league you see the leaders and people in the other
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  Speaker 1: leagues who stand up and say that they're they're sitting down,
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  Speaker 1: And those are the guys. Those are the lebrons, you know,
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  Speaker 1: those are the curries, those are the those are the
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  Speaker 1: guys who were at the top of their game in
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  Speaker 1: the face of the league. The same thing would need
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  Speaker 1: to happen, uh in the NFL for that to happen,
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  Speaker 1: And until then, I'm not sure. Conley is a very
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  Speaker 1: eloquent speaker. Of course, he had that fantastic speech on
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  Speaker 1: the stairs at the police station a couple of months
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  Speaker 1: ago and was one of the most vocal that day
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  Speaker 1: and as a big piece of of what the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: were doing today leading up to practice or not practice,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And it's it's a valid point because he
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  Speaker 1: made this point to Logs that there's so many players
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  Speaker 1: involved in the NFL and there are different tiers of players. Right.
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  Speaker 1: A quarterback has a little more juice, if you will,
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  Speaker 1: then you know the third string guard who's a rookie. Right,
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  Speaker 1: That's just kind of how it works. Um, it's fair,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not equal, was the term he used. So
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  Speaker 1: that's what it would take if if all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: a third string guard doesn't want to sit out, they'll
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  Speaker 1: find another third string guard. If a starting quarterback who
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  Speaker 1: was an m v P. Let me just jump in
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  Speaker 1: here a little bit, because yeah, I understand that. Look
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  Speaker 1: the reason why you maybe don't have a game or
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  Speaker 1: or boycott a game, or or say we don't want
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  Speaker 1: to practice as you're trying to draw attention to a matter.
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  Speaker 1: Totally get that. The one thing though, that I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure of it is if you if you get in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL season, and this is all purely hypothetical, but
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  Speaker 1: if you get in the NFL season and you say, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well we don't want to play because something happens, does
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  Speaker 1: that does that affect actionable change? And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: the question that needs to be asked and answered before
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  Speaker 1: before anybody decides not to do it, you know, And
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  Speaker 1: and I think Bruce Arians, the head coach of the
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  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, talked about it a little bit today
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  Speaker 1: when he met with the media over there, and he
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  Speaker 1: said that, you know, for the players, don't protest, you know,
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  Speaker 1: take action, and whatever that action is. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: the answer to that, but just protesting or saying okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're not gonna practice. If that's not going to create change,
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  Speaker 1: then don't do it. You do something that's gonna be productive.
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  Speaker 1: And and like I said, I don't know the answer
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  Speaker 1: to that, but I think there's a lot of really
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  Speaker 1: bright minds that the NFL can lean on. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the whole reason why the Jaguars have Tunisia
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  Speaker 1: in that role, is that you know, hey, look, you
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  Speaker 1: know to provide guidance, you know, to to provide help
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  Speaker 1: to make the right decisions for for a football team,
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  Speaker 1: and also to create actionable change. So uh, and it's
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  Speaker 1: a touchy subject. I mean, which you know, what's the
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  Speaker 1: right thing, and you know, in locker rooms, JP are
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  Speaker 1: no different than society. Locker rooms have a thing and
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  Speaker 1: they all vary, yeah, from eighty different backgrounds. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: no different than if you have a quarterback controversy. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to to kind of compare um the
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  Speaker 1: social issues that we have today with you know, who's
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  Speaker 1: the starting quarterback, But I'm just trying to use this
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  Speaker 1: as an example of how opinions can be so varied
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  Speaker 1: and that you know, I've been in locker rooms before
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  Speaker 1: to where we've had a quote unquote quarterback controversy, and
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  Speaker 1: the locker room might be just as split as a
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  Speaker 1: fan base, and so when you're talking about issues of
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  Speaker 1: social matter, it may be no different. And that you
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  Speaker 1: have a hundred different opinions and you've only got any
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  Speaker 1: guys because one guy may have two pinions that he's
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  Speaker 1: not sure which way to think, you know, so uh,
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  Speaker 1: challenging time, certainly. I know that Pete Carroll was posed
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  Speaker 1: the question about could there be games that will not
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  Speaker 1: be played in the season, and Pete put it quite simply,
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  Speaker 1: he said, you know, maybe you know, I mean, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to see And and Pete has been I
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  Speaker 1: think a very supportive member of the player's voice and
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  Speaker 1: all of this, and uh and and Pete is not
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  Speaker 1: afraid and never has been afraid. And I know Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I've been around him a long time. He's never been
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  Speaker 1: afraid of addressing social issues. And I commend, commend Doug
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  Speaker 1: Maron for not having any fear whatsoever addressing it. And
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  Speaker 1: you could also see a little bit of a pained
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  Speaker 1: expression with Doug Morone today and that you know, as
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  Speaker 1: he said, he said, you know, in a position of
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  Speaker 1: leadership sometimes you want to create actual change, but you
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  Speaker 1: know you're sometimes not sure what to do. So tough
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  Speaker 1: position to be in. And I credit a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the players in the league for for taking action, and
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  Speaker 1: but I think we've got to find a way to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that the action is going to be productive. Well,
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  Speaker 1: all I know is that the conversations continue. The Jaguar
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  Speaker 1: has canceled all football matters the rest of the day
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  Speaker 1: after practice and a team meeting started around three o'clock
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  Speaker 1: today and apparently is expected to go for a little while.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's a time limit on that one tonight.
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  Speaker 1: So the conversation continues amongst the Jacksonville Jaguars today, though
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  Speaker 1: they did get the practice in today. Let's come back
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  Speaker 1: in a moment and we'll hear from Doug marrone again
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  Speaker 1: a little more about this morning. We'll get into footballer's
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  Speaker 1: as we said, like it's two weeks from the season,
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  Speaker 1: a scrimmage coming up Saturday, and a lot still to
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  Speaker 1: right now I don't know that I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: we touched on this last segment, but it's I think
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  Speaker 1: How challenging this was going to be anyway for head
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: coach Doug Moron and Dave Caldwell and Dave Will will
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  Speaker 1: But then you throw in the pandemic COVID nineteen and
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  Speaker 1: everything that happened. No offseason program, it's all virtual. Nothing
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  Speaker 1: on the field. Um, You've got a young team, right.
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  Speaker 1: Twelve draft picks there were thirty rookies on the roster
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  Speaker 1: in the off season. That's a lot of youth in
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  Speaker 1: a pandemic and all that, and then all the social
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  Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, and then now during training camp.
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  Speaker 1: That is a lot on a head coaches plate and
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  Speaker 1: GM's plate, especially in a year where they're kind of
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  Speaker 1: up against it logs. I mean, they've got to win
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  Speaker 1: some games here. There's a lot going on right now,
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  Speaker 1: especially for for Doug Moron. Yeah, I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: tremendous challenge in a challenging ear. And let me just
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  Speaker 1: add this here too, because you know, with with the
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  Speaker 1: news that we're talking about now, it seems to be
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  Speaker 1: at the forefront a lot of conversation that's going on
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  Speaker 1: in our country right now. Oh by the way, there
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• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the conversation right now is not about that, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to think that, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: forget about them in that type of situation because we've
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  Speaker 1: been through that before dealing with Hurricane So just just
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  Speaker 1: a quick thought on that. Yeah, that's a good point
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  Speaker 1: and that that was not on the list at least
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: in the Jaguars world yet, but it has been in
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  Speaker 1: the past. Yes, that's that's the I think the one
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  Speaker 1: thing that knock on wood and I've got a table
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  Speaker 1: right here that we don't really have to deal with
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  Speaker 1: directly this year now to football logs, were two weeks
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  Speaker 1: away from the first NFL game, so you know that's
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  Speaker 1: that's coming in hot all of a sudden. The Jags
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  Speaker 1: have a scrimmage on Saturday at the stadium and then
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: they're gonna shut down training camp mode. The media won't
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  Speaker 1: be allowed out there after stretched really at that point
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  Speaker 1: of individual work, they'll be out of there. So regular
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  Speaker 1: season rules are back in effect. You know this is uh,
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  Speaker 1: you're at this point now, it's two weeks um at
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: some point that hey has got to be in the
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  Speaker 1: barn and an opening day you'll you'll tee it up
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: at at one o'clock on the thirteenth September. Well, when
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: you when you say the hay is in the barn
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: The hey can actually mean a lot of different things. Um,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: it could mean your roster, it could mean your preparation,
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  Speaker 1: it could mean your game plans, it could bean your
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: physical health and well being. I mean, there's there's not
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: a lot that's going to affect any kind of of
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: change in football between now and the opener, you know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna be interesting to see what
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: happens once you get into the regular season JP. And
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: kind of what I'm referring to here is that every
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: team right now is kind of operating under the shroud
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: of secrecy, and that you're you're not the performance of
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  Speaker 1: your players, the performance of your team, the scheme of
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: your team. None of that is getting out and put
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  Speaker 1: on film because there's no preseason games and nothing's getting publicized. Obviously,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: local media is restricted in every market as far as
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you know, how in depth that they can go and
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: describing what they're seeing on the practice field, including everybody,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you know, whether it's it's team media or it's it's
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: local print media or TV media. So what happens when
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: you get to cut down time and you've got to
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: make a decision of who the fifty three are gonna be,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and who the sixteen are gonna be on your practice squad,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: and and what kind of change do you have, because
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you know, in a normal year, when you're having an
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: organization that is essentially undergoing a rebuild, like we kind
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: of consider what the Jaguars are doing now because of
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the commitment to youth and and the number of subtractions
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: compared to what the additions are. They are clearly in
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: that mode of trying to to rebuild a football team
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: and trying to win at the same time. Don't get
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: me wrong, but when you have that situation, you typically
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: have a football team like the Jaguars in the position
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: they're in that they're gonna go out and they're gonna
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: get other players from the other teams and be able
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: to kind of scalt what those players that they have
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: had scouting reports on from college and compare that to
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: what their performance has been in the preseason. And there's
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: always been maybe oh four or five, maybe up to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: seven roster changes right before you get to committing to
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: what your fifty three are going to be going into
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: opening week, because you're changing out a few phases and
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: names prior to that opener with guys from other teams,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: So how much of that will happen? Uh, So that's
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: kind of a little bit of a curiosity to me.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: And uh and we're gonna see what's gonna happen. And
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: they've called well in the scouts, I mean, they're gonna
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: have to refer probably more so back to what their
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: rating system was prior to the draft, and there really
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: hasn't been any update to that because they haven't seen
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the player and maybe the Giants camp or the Saints
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  Speaker 1: camp or whatever team that the player that they like
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: is residing that currently now, you know. To that point,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I blazed over a story today that the Bills were
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: looking at media reports of other teams come cut time,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, that's not news. That happens
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: all the time anyway, Like there's somebody in every department
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: that looks at every clipping, every media report to see
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: if there's something maybe they've missed in scouting anyway, but
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: this year becomes oh so much more important. If they
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: see something some kind of tin bit in another team's media,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: maybe that could tip them off that that they like
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: a guy. So, I mean, so de Rock, Mike Rocco,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: who's Jaguars beat writer. He better knock it off. He
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: better stop talking about all these you know, these hidden
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  Speaker 1: gems that the Jaguars have, and and uh and all
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the other reporters as well, you know Hey's carline, all
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: those guys. Man stop at Brent Martin, No stop, you
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: can't do that. So, I mean, but didn't I just
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: read today that there was a team's media member of
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills up right, that's what you're talking about.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: He got fired because he was two different stories, Steve
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Tasker okay, on a radio show and was talking about
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: scheme and also the performance of the players. Did I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: read that correctly? That's right. Well, Chris Brown is his name,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and he's he's been there for a long long time
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: with the Bills and hosts the radio show and is
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: a writer for the team website and contributed basically like
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: we're doing, you know, but it would be the equivalent
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: of John Osan getting whacked or getting sent out of
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: practice right for a while. So basically was talking about
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: some things on a radio show that apparently the Bills
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: did not want him or anyone to discuss, and the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Bills took action. Internally, it sounds like interesting, I mean interesting,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I look at football's not rocket science. Um,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: but I totally understand that, you know, you don't want
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: to be talking about you know, maybe all of a
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: sudden there's some guy that is having a phenomenal camp,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: and but you've got a lot of phenomenal guys at
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: that position, and you'd like to find a way maybe
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: to sneak him on the practice squad or or maybe
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: find a way to uh and here's the other thing.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: If you have a guy that's performing really well and
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you're stacked at a position, so maybe sometimes you'd like
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  Speaker 1: to get the word out. So maybe you tell your
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: your in house media, hey man, spread the word that
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Joe Schmo is having a heck of a camp because
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: we want to maybe trade Joe Schmo or trade the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: other guy, you know, so uh, it can god be
• 28:11
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• 28:14
  Speaker 1: happened to the guy in Buffalo, and uh, you know,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: hopefully that doesn't happen to anybody else like me or
• 28:22
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars moved back practice today and there were questions
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  Speaker 1: response to what happened in Wisconsin a few days ago.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, the NBA games were all postponed last
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  Speaker 1: night and again tonight, and apparently it sounds like they're
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  Speaker 1: s some Major League Baseball games, but the Jags had
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  Speaker 1: a big meeting this morning about it and a team vote,
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  Speaker 1: and by one vote, apparently, according to Chris Conley, the
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  Speaker 1: of the team that the rest of the guys who
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: voted no went out there too. That kind of tells
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  Speaker 1: you that's a big moment early in a team's formation, right, Tony,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: when all of a sudden that's that divided. Yeah, it's
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: it's interesting. Um. I mean obviously you know since uh,
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  Speaker 1: not just since the George Floyd uh situation which happened
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  Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, and now with the young man in Wisconsin,
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  Speaker 1: Jacob Blake. I mean, obviously you know you hate to
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  Speaker 1: see you and I think Chris Conley said it very well.
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  Speaker 1: And and obviously there's a lot of information that needs
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  Speaker 1: to be found out and investigated everything else, and um,
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  Speaker 1: but regardless of how it happened, the ending is bad
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  Speaker 1: and it's not good, and it were very uh, it
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: seems like a very divided at times on some of
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: these really big issues. And I think the players are
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: trying to find their voice and find you know, how
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: how can they because they're frustrated, and how can they
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  Speaker 1: respond to it in a meaningful way? UM. I thought
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: it was interesting, you know, and I don't know if
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you guys talk about this. Bruce arians said something that
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I thought was pretty well said, you know that people
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  Speaker 1: need to take action. UM. But you know, in his experience,
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  Speaker 1: and he says all the way back to the sixties.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: He's obviously a little bit older than us. Uh, probably
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  Speaker 1: he didn't see protesting doing too much, but that we
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: need to take action, you know, whether it's given to
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: a cause or getting involved in a cause that's gonna
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: bring about real change. And it made me think. And
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: and it was right around the time of the Jaguars
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: making the decision whether they're going to practice or not outing,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: which I find you know, it's interesting of a way
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to make a decision. And also you know several the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: other teams UM not practicing we saw at the NBA.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Did I guess my question would be whether you practice
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: or not, or whether you play an NBA game yesterday
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: or not, because now they're gonna play. Um, as you said, JP,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: what what is the what are what's the purpose? What
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: do you what are what is the end goal that
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: you're trying to accomplish by not practicing, UM, what is
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: that going to change? By not practicing? UM? Is it?
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: You know? You could argue it's gonna bring more attention
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: to the issue. I would argue that there's a lot
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: of attention right now on the issue. Now are we
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: getting where we need to go fast enough? You know?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: You could argue not not even close um, which happens
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of times in this country when something becomes
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: political and there's you know, and everything around the election
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: and the circumstances we find ourselves in right now. But
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I kept on asking myself, guys, like, what, like the
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: NBA not playing, is that going to change anything? A
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: team not practicing is that going to change anything? I
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: think the only way we see real change is that
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: you have to have real, hard, honest conversations UM where
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: people can influence change and bring about changes, whether it's
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: you know, reform around how people, uh police happens, racial
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: inequality or whatever, um of the issues that we want
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: to address. But it has to be I think bigger
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: than just sitting at a game UM or a practice.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: And so I kind of found myself wondering and and
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: then circling back to what Bruce Arians said is that like,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: as a player, and I know a lot of players
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: in the NFL do this in the in the n
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: B A uh, you know, whether it's a Lebron James
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: starting schools or people giving the found local foundations or whatever.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: That's how you're gonna have to make really meaningful change. Um.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: And then you know, and then you work your way
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: up into the you know, into the government, local starting
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: a local government, all the way up to try to
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: make uh significant changes of major issues. But I mean
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: sitting out of practice, I'm not sure. I'm not sure
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: what message that sends, um two people right, So, UM
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars voted to practice today by one vote. They
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: were out there at the full time a little bit
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: later today it started at eleven five instead of this morning,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and meetings continue this afternoon. And this will be part
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: it sounds like, as we heard a couple of months ago,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: this will be part of how um the Jaguars have
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: to operate from really maybe the rest of the season.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Doug Maron said they're going to carve out time for
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: conversations like this, and today it was I felt like
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: it was certainly needed and they will continue. So let's
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's right. I mean, I think Doug,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: trying to do you know, the best, began to lead
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: and to encourage conversation and to allow players to share
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: their frustrations. Um. But I would I would encourage is
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: not allow the frustrations and the conversations to lead to action,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: like we're gonna do this so because we want to
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: accomplish this. So we're gonna excellently accomplish Why whatever that
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: y is were you as an individual, as a team,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: or as an organization, whatever it is? Because um because
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I think the most important thing that we need to
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: see happen is using a football kind of metaphor, if
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you need to see the you know, the ball moved
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: down the field in making progress. And so I hope
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: that in all these conversations and for all of us,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think we should all be having these
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: conversations amongst our families and friends and and you know,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: in our communities. Um but we're talking about sports today,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: whether it's the NFL or the NBA or any other
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: major leagues uh professional sport. The frustration is genuine, and
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: it's real, and the feelings are real Um, but I
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: hope it leads to some solution, Um that that we
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: say we're gonna do whatever, stand, We're gonna take whatever protesting,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: which is what makes this country great. You've been ability
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: to do that. Um, well, they're missing a playoff game
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: or a practice whatever, or the conversation that Doug is
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: gonna facilitate to have those conversations. Those are all good,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: but they have to lead to some action. Um, that
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: initiated change in my opinion. Let's move along now. Of
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: course we've we've discussed this at good length today and
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: these discussions will continue on this program certainly. Um, the
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: guys were and Logs, you and I were just touched
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: on this. We're two weeks away from football Thursday night.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Football is two weeks away. Um, so what's in your
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: guys opinion, what's left for this team to get done
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: in camp? What is the most pressing issue on the
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: field for this team? Logs will start with you with
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: two weeks to go, a little over two weeks until
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: opening day. I think offensively, it's all about timing and
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: comfort level and kind of having that relationship between your
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: quarterback and all of his weapons to where there's a
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: comfort level of knowing between and this is both ways
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: now to where Gardner knows where his guys are gonna
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: be at and they have an expectation where he wants
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: them to be at. So and this is something that
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, even though you sit there and you go, boy,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: they've been in camp a long time and they've been
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: practicing a long time, they really haven't. And that's one
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: of the things I think. You go back to the
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: one of the most efficient offenses that had incredible timing.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: You go back to the San Francisco forty Niners when
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: they were great under Bill Walsh and continuing on a
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: little bit under George Seyffert, and they just had so
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: many reps and reps and reps and reps, and that
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: was what was one of their big things. And practice
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: was reps because the more reps you get, the better
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the timing is and the better the efficiency of the
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: offense is. And so as an offense, I mean, look,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars got lots of work still to do, lots
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: of work still do because if you take anto account
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the amount of time that they missed from the O
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: t s to the mini camps, et cetera. And now
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: they're trying to make up for lost time here in
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: this abbreviated training camp that doesn't have any preseason games.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: That's a challenge, big challenge. But they got a lot
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: of work to do offensively. Uh, defensively, they may have
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: some work to do from a personnel standpoint, we don't
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: know that along the defensive front, but they certainly got
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of work to do there with a lot
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: of young players. They've got a new linebacker, got a
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: young cornerback. I mean, there's a lot of things to
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: figure out defensively. So still, uh, the the hey JP
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: is not necessarily in the barn yet, and they still
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do, Tony. That's a
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: long list of things. Yeah, Jeff, if you say the
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: haze in the barn yet, I think they're still cutting it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I think they're still gonna feel cutting forget about getting
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: into the bailing it and get into the barn. We're
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: at the beginning stages of this thing. I mean, I
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: think we fore get I mean, it's um this offseason
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: has been so crazy. We forget that the second year quarterback,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: rand new offensive corps. They're trying to put an offense
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: in on the run and Jeff, as I know you
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: do the same as I do. As I was watching
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: the tape today on the iPad and you go click
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: and you find the practice. This is the tenth training
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: cap practice ten. That was. That was week one of
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: camp for us. And that's after O, T A S
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: and mini camps, all things they did not have this year.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: That is day ten. Uh. And some of those practices
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: are abbreviated because of you know how they had to
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: work their way in. I think there were ninety minute
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: patted practices so and and then you have on top
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: of that you have maintenance days for guys. So I
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: think we have a long way to go in a
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: short time to get there. Is the old movie Smoking
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: in the Bandit and and and I think Jeff's right,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: it's timing with the young quarterback. Um. You know, you
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: have young players sinal As a rookie that looks like
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: they're gonna you know, they're gonna count on him a guy.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: And Tyler Ifford brand New um has never worked with
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: the quarterback, you know, so you have a number of
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: new pieces now you're gonna have to have that. I
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: think one of the keys guys is gonna be that
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: offensive line, they're gonna have to play well. The offensive
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: line is gonna have to play well, and they're gonna
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: have to run the ball learning for net because I
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: know we love all we all love Minsheu and minshew
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: magic and I'm all for it, like dialed up, let's
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: get the magic going and let's watch this thing go.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: The bottom line is it's gonna take time, and it's
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: not gonna be perfect early. Now. The good news is,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: you hope you run into some other teams that are
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: very disorganized and have growing pains at the same time,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: and you kind of get some sloppy plays and you
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: get some big players offensively. But for the consistency part
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: of it, they're gonna have to get the run game
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: going and they're gonna have to get you know that.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: That means that starts with the offensive line and then
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: it goes right to fortnit afterwards. And so I think
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: that is so critical on that side of the ball.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: And then I mean, Jeff, we haven't even talked about
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: the defense. I mean, you can go down the list
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: of turns and things as far as still trying to
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: get ready, and I think it starts with the front
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: seven um and I'll even boil it down and starts
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: with the front four, and I'll even go narrower, narrower
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: than that. It starts with the inside too. You know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I think the middle of that defense is going to
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: get stressed, and it already is stressed with injuries and
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: opt outs and everything else. And uh, and they're gonna
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: have to stop the run. And so it's funny you
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: talked about all the things and all the fun pieces,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: and we have some fun pieces are putting together. It
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: comes down the good old thing that all football come
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: down to, my opinion, can you control the line of scrimmage?
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Can you stop to run and run the ball? Because
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: you can't do either one of those. It is so
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: hard to win in this league. J P. Let me
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: let me add something to what what Tony is talking about,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: because you know, you sit there and you and you think,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Tony about how this football team still has a ways
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: to go. You know what was we had the benefit
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: when you had preseason games. You kind of had a gauge,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: you know, because you go against another opponent and you
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: get feedback, you know, where are we at as a team?
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: You know, where's our run defense at, where's our past offense?
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: At you know, how do we measure up against this
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: team even though we're just playing basic preseason football. Well,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the one thing I think that's challenging, you're not getting that,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: you know. So are you maybe getting a uh, false
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: sense of security thinking that, Okay, you know, we're doing
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: pretty good in this area, or you may be getting
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: a false sense of the opposite and that, hey, you know,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: we're probably not doing very good in this area, but
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: maybe you aren't doing okay. But it's it's hard because
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: you know, if you just have home homework and homework
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: and homework and you never have a test, how do
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: you know? You know? So I think that's what's gonna
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: make this season and this football team so intriguing because
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: you just you have no idea. I mean you really don't.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I mean you haven't had and not that we were
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: able to judge where a team was at in the
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: preseason anyway, I mean because a lot of times the
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: preseason can give you another total false sense of security.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Going back a few years ago, Tony and I both
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: were sitting there going put this team in bubble rapp
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: They're ready to go, and then they come out in
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: the regular season and complete a Nutter failure. But but
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of the just the individual players and where
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: they are. That's where you you can I think you
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: got a pretty good understanding. Not maybe not as a team,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: but you can certainly gauge ex player against another team
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: in a certain situation. And you don't get that benefit now.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Well us Jeff as a player, I enjoyed, Like I
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: didn't want four preseason games. I didn't really want two
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: preseason games, but like two series, three series, maybe a
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: quarter and a half out they're working against someone else,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: kind of gets your sea legs ready and you know,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: get a little bit of work. I always thought that
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: was nice because after camp. I mean I'll think back
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: when even as a young player, you and I were
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: practicing against each other. Heck, after the first week, I
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: knew what movie you're gonna do, and I knew that
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: what you like? Do you like to chop? And you
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: know you're gonna change it up every once in a
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: while with the bullet inside move. And I mean I
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: knew who Jeff Walking was. So I aren't setting and
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: doing things to block deth Logman. Well, now all of
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: a sudden you're blocking you know, you know, a speed
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: rusher a light guy who's outside running a hundred miles
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: an hour. Like it's just nice to get a different
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: feel and see a different guy across from you in
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: a game situation, because like game situations as an offensive linement,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I'll speak for me. Like in practice, I knew like
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Logs wasn't gonna hit the quarterback because if he did,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: there was gonna be a big fight, and I was
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: gonna whip. As we're entitt in the quarterback in a game,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: you know, it's live, you're going, you're going through the whistle.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I just I think that that stuff matters, And especially
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: for a young team. Now if we're talking about you know,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and Ben Roethlisberger and a veteran offensive
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: line like the castro and pouncing and these guys have
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: been around forever. You know, I'm not as concerned like
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: you'd like it. But these guys will figure it out
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: and get through it maybe a little bit better. Um,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: but we got such a young team and you know,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: and so there's gonna be some growing pains and they
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do, and they got
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: a short you know, not a lot of time to
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: get there. And opening weekend. I'm looking. I can't wait.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun, but it's gonna be interesting because
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what to expect. I don't think
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: any of us do. But I know one thing. You
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: you misspoke there, Tony. You said you blocked Jeff Loghuman,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: and we all know that Jeff Loghuman is unblockable, okay, JP.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Tony was being nice and he said, okay, I got
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: used to blocking Logoman. He was. If he was being
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: totally honest, he would have said, I needed to get
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: a guy that had more speed and had more power
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: so that I could get used to seeing other guys
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: around the National Football League. And for me, I wanted
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: to see an offensive tackle that I could beat so
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I could get some continents scoring into the season. No,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: but it's but it all joke aside, Like like Logs,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I was like, like I would set with when I
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: blocked blog I was not set in deep like Logs,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: like he's never beating me around the corner. Like it
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: was like never even worried about it. I mean, like
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I do. I was athletic enough to recover, but I
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: did worry about I better play my hand slow because
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: he's gonna try to chop the crap out of him
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: and use leverage. And I knew that I better be
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: ready for the ball, which, by the way, Logs, you
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: couldn't do that bull anymore with the new rules that
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: just came out. How they're gonna emphasize defensive linement lower
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: in the head the bull rush. And so, dude, I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: mean and so, but I knew that was one of
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: the things Logs was gonna do. And but and that
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: was great work. But you also know you're gonna face
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: all different kinds of guys. And listen, it's never perfect
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: in training camp. But if you look in the past,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: even last year for this team, you got to go
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: to Baltimore, you got the preseason, your practice against other teams.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, those are all valuable situations for two things.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: One guy's get ready to play a game. But I
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: think we're also discounting for a coaching staff in a
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: front office to evaluate your roster, like I have no
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: idea watching the practices that I've watched, how are you
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: gonna how are you gonna evaluate that bottom ten? You know,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: so from from forty five to fifty five of your
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: roster this year? And I mean Joe D. Camillets has
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: a tough job to build the special teams out to
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: find those guys, um because you usually find those guys
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: in preseason. All right, let's come back in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Final moments of Jaguar's Happy Hour. The Doug
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  Speaker 1: Morone Show coming up in about five minutes, but g M.
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  Speaker 1: Dave call, well, we'll join us today and the head
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  Speaker 1: Coach's Place that's on the Jaguars Radio network at five o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: Final moments, J P. Shadrick, Jeff Flagman, Tony Boselli. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go around the National Football League quickly and start in Washington,
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  Speaker 1: where a lot of news has come out of that
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  Speaker 1: city in the NFL in the last six months. Especially
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  Speaker 1: The Post on Wednesday reported additional examples of workplace sexual
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  Speaker 1: harassment and made allegations and owner Dan Snyder was personally
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  Speaker 1: involved and reported a former cheerleader said that Snyder had
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: invited her to a hotel room with one of his friends.
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  Speaker 1: There were extra cheerleading videos made especially for the owner.
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  Speaker 1: Snyder has since released a statement denying those allegations. Tony, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of smoke coming out of Washington,
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  Speaker 1: Washington football team, and my guess is if the NFL
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  Speaker 1: digs into this and they come up with anything, uh
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  Speaker 1: that any of this is true based off the investigation
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  Speaker 1: are doing, You're gonna see Daniel Snyder forced to sell
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  Speaker 1: or pressure pressure to sell. UM. I just don't think. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: number one, it's wrong. You know, in a leadership position,
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  Speaker 1: you should not use that influence to try to get
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  Speaker 1: um any sort of sexual favors or harassment or anything
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  Speaker 1: like that. It's uncalled for it, there's no place for it.
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  Speaker 1: And I think if it is true, we'll wait and see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and it's until prove be guilty. UM. I
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  Speaker 1: think there'll be so much pressure and he'll have to
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  Speaker 1: sell the team. Yeah, just a real, real quick thought
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  Speaker 1: on that JP. Obviously, Daniel Snyder has denied the allegations.
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  Speaker 1: The big concern there for me is that the league
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  Speaker 1: has allowed the Redskins to do their own investigation. And
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: how in the world can an investigation be impartial if
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  Speaker 1: it's done by the team. So it's a good point, yep.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think if if the league was smart,
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  Speaker 1: they'd get their own investigator in there immediately and do
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  Speaker 1: an independent investigation. You can't let the guy pick the
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: guy who's gonna investigate him, That's right. And we'll see
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  Speaker 1: what the next steps are in Washington. Back to football now,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Mixon out of practice with migrains. But Joe Mixon
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: also wants a new contract and does not have it.
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  Speaker 1: You had. He missed practice Wednesday, not planning on practicing Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: But he has consecutive seasons, three straight seasons of thousand
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: yards rushing. Joe Mixon is one of the top running
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  Speaker 1: backs right Tony. Yeah, I think I don't know if
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: he's one of the top, Like, I don't think he's
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  Speaker 1: he's not Alvin Camaro to me. Um, he's not the
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: cat Free to me. I'm not sure he's Dalvin cooked
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  Speaker 1: to me. Because I think he's a he's a good
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  Speaker 1: running back. I don't know if he's great out of
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  Speaker 1: the backfield. I don't And Jeff, maybe you can correct
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  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, But I don't see him as
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: a great pass catcher. And I think to be a
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: great back that I'm gonna pay a bunch of money to,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: you have to be multi pascitt I mean, you have
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: to really be able to stress at the vince in
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  Speaker 1: different ways. And so, um, he's a good player, depends
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: how much money he wants is what I'm gonna pay
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  Speaker 1: or not. That's a tough position to to try to
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  Speaker 1: kind of create your own leverage to get a contract.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, by the way, JP, I'm starting to get
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  Speaker 1: a headache. Can can you and Tony handle the doun
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Morone show? Do you want any contract to? Oh? I'm
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: probably overpaid already. Let's let's one more note here before
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  Speaker 1: we get out of here. UM. Bengals cornerback Mackenzie Alexander's
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  Speaker 1: father was found alive after three days missing. He had
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  Speaker 1: been missing since Monday night after a berry picking trip
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  Speaker 1: down in southwest Florida. He walked up to a ranger
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  Speaker 1: station at the Kasimi Prairie Preserve State Park at seven
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  Speaker 1: am and good health. And that's great news, guys. Yeah,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I love I love the asked, like the question, like
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  Speaker 1: what you do for three days? Like where were you? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's out And here's the industry biggest son
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  Speaker 1: left practice. He went down and there's an assault charge
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  Speaker 1: against him for him going after the last man who
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: saw his dad. So crazy story. I mean, you wonder
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  Speaker 1: if you ever actually get to the bottom of it.
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  Speaker 1: It was and we know he had berries to eat,
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  Speaker 1: that's for sure. So he made it through a very
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: picking trip, but good news that he's alive. Logs will
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  Speaker 1: talk to you the second Bob. We'll talk to you
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  Speaker 1: next week, Tony and Jeff Logan. I'm J P. Shadrick.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: The Doug Barone Show coming up with Dave Caldwell The GM.
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  Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.