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How to Write a Children's Book (Creative Process of Successful Authors) Katie Kuperman · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

4:01
Katie
4:02
Cooperman,
4:03
Muddy
4:03
Spokes,
4:03
Speedy
4:04
Spokes
4:05
and
4:05
Spokes
4:05
Blows
4:06
a
4:06
Tire
4:07
Thanks,
4:07
Katie.
4:08
Brings
4:09
a
4:09
smile
4:09
to
4:09
my
4:09
face
4:10
when
4:10
I
4:10
hear
4:10
your
4:10
titles
4:11
of
4:11
your
4:11
book.
4:11
I'm
4:12
looking
4:12
forward
4:12
to
4:13
having
4:14
Katie
4:14
appear
4:15
on
4:15
the
4:15
Adventures
4:16
in
4:16
the
4:16
Heart
4:16
of
4:16
Children's
4:17
Book
4:17
Authors
4:17
podcast.
4:18
Katie
4:19
has
4:19
mentioned
4:20
she's
4:20
written
4:20
several
4:21
children's
4:21
books
4:22
and
4:22
today
4:22
we're
4:23
going
4:23
to
4:23
focus
4:23
on
4:24
her
4:24
book.
4:25
Spokesman
4:26
Blows
4:27
a
4:27
Tire
4:27
and
4:28
I
4:28
look
4:28
forward
4:28
to
4:29
our
4:29
conversation.
4:30
Katie,
4:31
before
4:31
we
4:32
get
4:32
into
4:32
the
4:33
details
4:33
of
4:33
your
4:33
book,
4:34
can
4:34
you
4:34
tell
4:35
us
4:35
what
4:36
being
4:36
a
4:36
children's
4:37
book
4:37
author
4:38
means
4:38
to
4:38
you?
4:40
That's
4:40
a
4:40
great
4:40
opening
4:41
question.
4:42
Being
4:43
a
4:43
children's
4:44
book
4:44
author
4:46
really
4:47
makes
4:48
me
4:48
feel
4:49
connected
4:50
to
4:50
the
4:50
younger
4:51
audience
4:51
that's
4:51
out
4:52
there.
4:53
Ever
4:53
since
4:53
I
4:53
became
4:54
a
4:54
parent,
4:55
I
4:55
realized
4:55
how
4:55
much
4:56
I
4:56
really
4:56
do
4:57
love
4:57
kids.
4:58
And
4:59
I'm
4:59
always
5:00
the
5:00
adult
5:00
at
5:00
the
5:00
party
5:01
that
5:01
slips
5:01
away
5:02
for
5:02
a
5:02
few
5:02
minutes
5:02
and
5:03
goes
5:03
to
5:03
hang
5:03
out
5:03
with
5:04
the
5:04
kids
5:04
and
5:04
see
5:04
what
5:05
they're
5:05
up
5:05
to.
5:06
After
5:06
seeing
5:07
my
5:07
own
5:08
children,
5:09
I
5:10
don't
5:10
wanna
5:10
say
5:10
battle
5:11
through
5:11
certain
5:11
things,
5:12
but
5:12
more
5:13
so
5:13
thinking
5:13
about
5:14
what
5:14
lessons
5:15
would
5:15
I
5:15
love
5:16
to
5:16
impart
5:17
on
5:17
them
5:17
or
5:17
what
5:18
would
5:18
I
5:18
love
5:18
to
5:18
teach
5:18
them
5:19
as
5:19
a
5:19
parent?
5:20
And
5:21
then
5:21
even
5:21
further
5:21
than
5:22
that,
5:22
what
5:22
should
5:22
every
5:23
kid
5:24
need
5:25
to
5:25
know
5:26
in
5:26
order
5:26
to
5:26
live
5:26
their
5:27
best
5:27
life?
5:28
And
5:28
so
5:29
that's
5:29
how
5:29
I
5:29
try
5:30
to
5:30
base
5:30
my
5:31
books
5:32
around
5:33
some
5:33
core
5:34
message
5:34
like
5:34
that.
5:36
And
5:36
I'll
5:37
be
5:37
honest,
5:37
the
5:37
first
5:38
one
5:38
is
5:39
more
5:39
of
5:39
an
5:39
overarching
5:40
theme
5:41
that
5:41
I
5:41
think
5:41
is
5:41
so
5:42
important
5:42
for
5:42
kids
5:43
to
5:43
know,
5:43
and
5:43
that
5:43
is
5:44
the
5:44
whole
5:44
theme
5:44
around
5:45
resilience
5:46
and
5:46
resourcefulness.
5:47
So
5:47
that
5:47
is
5:47
Muddy
5:48
Spokes.
5:49
And
5:49
then
5:50
Speedy
5:51
Spokes
5:51
came
5:53
out
5:53
of
5:54
watching
5:55
and
5:55
observing
5:55
my
5:56
son.
5:56
That
5:57
book
5:57
is
5:57
inspired
5:58
by
5:58
him
5:58
and
5:59
how
5:59
his
6:00
mind
6:01
is
6:01
one
6:01
of
6:01
the
6:01
fastest
6:02
minds
6:02
I've
6:03
ever
6:03
met
6:03
in
6:03
my
6:03
life.
6:04
And
6:05
if
6:06
you
6:06
don't
6:06
know
6:06
him,
6:06
you'll
6:07
think
6:07
he's
6:07
not
6:07
listening
6:08
or
6:08
he's
6:09
spaced
6:09
out
6:09
somewhere.
6:10
But
6:10
he's
6:10
never
6:11
just
6:11
spaced
6:11
out.
6:12
His
6:12
mind
6:13
is
6:13
spinning
6:14
fast,
6:14
always.
6:16
And
6:16
so
6:16
I
6:16
thought,
6:17
I'm
6:17
going
6:17
to
6:17
use
6:18
that
6:18
to
6:19
show
6:19
kids
6:19
that's
6:20
actually
6:20
a
6:20
great
6:20
thing.
6:21
But
6:22
how
6:22
can
6:22
we
6:22
then
6:24
and
6:24
know
6:24
how
6:24
to
6:24
control
6:25
it?
6:25
So
6:25
we're
6:25
really
6:26
using
6:26
this
6:26
powerful
6:27
tool
6:27
of
6:27
ours
6:28
to
6:28
the
6:28
greatest
6:28
capacity.
6:29
And
6:30
then
6:30
the
6:30
third
6:30
book
6:30
is
6:31
inspired
6:31
by
6:31
my
6:31
daughter
6:32
and
6:33
this
6:33
whole
6:34
idea
6:34
of
6:34
we've
6:35
got
6:35
to
6:35
learn
6:35
how
6:35
to
6:35
manage
6:36
our
6:36
emotions
6:36
so
6:36
that
6:37
we
6:37
don't
6:37
go
6:38
from
6:38
zero
6:38
to
6:39
100
6:40
that
6:40
fast.
6:40
We've
6:41
gotta
6:41
be
6:41
able
6:41
to
6:42
control
6:42
ourselves
6:43
so
6:43
that
6:44
we
6:44
feel
6:45
more
6:45
empowered
6:46
as
6:46
kids,
6:46
as
6:47
people,
6:47
as
6:47
adults.
6:48
Being
6:49
a
6:49
children's
6:49
book
6:50
author
6:50
to
6:50
me
6:51
feels
6:52
like
6:52
an
6:52
honor
6:53
because
6:54
I
6:54
am
6:54
able
6:55
to
6:55
try
6:56
my
6:56
best
6:56
to
6:57
bring
6:58
a
6:58
cool,
6:59
funny
6:59
story
7:00
to
7:00
life,
7:01
but
7:01
also
7:01
to
7:01
leave
7:02
them
7:02
with
7:02
something
7:03
so
7:03
that
7:03
they
7:03
think,
7:04
huh,
7:05
if
7:05
I'm
7:05
ever
7:05
in
7:06
a
7:06
situation
7:06
like
7:06
this,
7:07
maybe,
7:08
just
7:08
maybe,
7:09
if
7:09
I
7:09
could
7:09
be
7:09
so
7:10
honored,
7:10
maybe
7:10
they
7:11
could
7:11
think
7:11
back
7:11
to
7:11
that
7:11
book
7:12
and
7:12
say,
7:13
hey,
7:13
Spokes
7:14
had
7:14
some
7:14
tools
7:15
that
7:15
I
7:15
could
7:15
use.
7:16
And
7:16
to
7:17
me,
7:17
what
7:18
greater
7:18
honor
7:19
than
7:19
to
7:19
be
7:20
in
7:20
a
7:20
little
7:20
kid's
7:21
head
7:21
for
7:21
five
7:22
seconds
7:22
or
7:22
to
7:22
make
7:23
them
7:23
laugh
7:24
or
7:24
to
7:24
make
7:24
them
7:25
remember
7:25
something
7:25
that
7:25
they
7:26
could
7:26
use
7:26
in
7:26
their
7:27
life
7:28
to
7:28
feel
7:29
better.
7:30
Thank
7:30
you
7:30
for
7:31
sharing
7:31
the
7:31
background
7:32
on
7:32
all
7:32
three
7:33
of
7:33
your
7:33
books.
7:33
And
7:33
I
7:34
noticed
7:34
your
7:35
first
7:35
two
7:35
books
7:35
came
7:35
out
7:36
in
7:36
2024
7:38
and
7:38
then
7:39
your
7:39
last
7:39
book,
7:40
Spokes
7:41
Blows
7:41
the
7:41
Tire
7:41
came
7:42
out
7:42
in
7:42
2025.
7:44
I
7:44
would
7:44
like
7:44
you
7:44
to
7:45
think
7:45
back
7:46
to
7:46
the
7:46
original
7:47
inspiration
7:48
behind
7:49
the
7:49
book,
7:49
because
7:50
I
7:50
know
7:50
you
7:50
talked
7:50
about
7:50
your
7:51
second
7:51
book
7:51
and
7:51
your
7:51
son,
7:52
your
7:52
third
7:52
book,
7:52
and
7:53
your
7:53
daughter.
7:54
So
7:54
take
7:54
us
7:54
back
7:55
to
7:55
the
7:56
what
7:56
just
7:57
inspired
7:57
you
7:58
to
7:58
think,
7:58
oh,
7:59
I'm
8:00
going
8:00
to
8:00
become
8:00
a
8:00
children's
8:01
book
8:01
author?
8:02
What
8:02
was
8:02
the
8:02
inspiration?
8:03
I
8:04
come
8:04
from
8:05
almost
8:06
two
8:06
decades
8:06
now
8:07
of
8:07
professional
8:08
writing.
8:08
In
8:08
my
8:09
business.
8:09
I
8:10
have
8:10
written
8:10
all
8:11
kinds
8:11
of
8:12
marketing
8:12
materials
8:13
for
8:13
clients.
8:13
I've
8:14
helped
8:14
people
8:14
with
8:15
websites
8:16
and
8:16
blog
8:16
posts.
8:17
And
8:17
then
8:17
lots
8:18
more
8:18
personal
8:19
stories
8:19
started
8:19
coming
8:19
to
8:20
life.
8:20
I
8:20
started
8:20
ghost
8:21
writing
8:21
people's
8:21
books
8:21
for
8:22
them
8:22
and
8:22
helping
8:22
them
8:22
bring
8:23
important
8:24
stories
8:24
to
8:24
life.
8:24
Never
8:25
children's
8:25
book.
8:26
And
8:26
then
8:27
it
8:27
was
8:27
through
8:27
that
8:27
process
8:28
that
8:28
I
8:28
thought,
8:29
I'm
8:30
ready
8:30
and
8:31
really
8:31
driven
8:31
now
8:32
to
8:32
bring
8:33
my
8:33
own
8:33
story
8:34
to
8:34
life.
8:34
But
8:35
I
8:35
had
8:35
no
8:35
idea
8:36
what
8:36
to
8:36
write
8:36
about
8:36
and
8:36
it
8:36
took
8:37
me
8:37
a
8:37
long
8:37
time
8:37
to
8:37
get
8:38
there.
8:38
And
8:39
then
8:39
I
8:39
felt
8:39
really
8:40
inspired
8:40
by
8:42
this
8:42
teenager
8:43
out
8:43
in
8:44
British
8:44
Columbia,
8:44
Canada,
8:45
and
8:45
something
8:46
tragic
8:46
happened.
8:46
I
8:47
won't
8:47
go
8:47
there
8:47
right
8:47
now.
8:48
And
8:48
that
8:49
is
8:49
what
8:49
inspired
8:49
me
8:50
to
8:50
write
8:50
my
8:50
very
8:50
first
8:51
book,
8:51
which
8:51
is
8:51
actually
8:51
a
8:52
young
8:52
adult
8:52
novel
8:52
about
8:53
bullying
8:53
and
8:54
mental
8:54
health.
8:55
And
8:55
then
8:55
from
8:55
there
8:56
I
8:56
got
8:56
a
8:57
lot
8:57
of
8:57
attention
8:57
with
8:58
that
8:58
book
8:59
through
8:59
schools
9:00
because
9:00
it
9:00
started
9:01
to
9:01
be
9:01
used
9:01
as
9:01
a
9:01
teaching
9:02
tool.
9:02
And
9:02
then
9:02
I
9:02
thought,
9:02
you
9:03
know
9:03
what?
9:03
I
9:03
want
9:03
to
9:03
create
9:03
a
9:03
workbook
9:04
now
9:04
that's
9:04
going
9:05
to
9:05
go
9:05
with
9:05
that
9:05
book
9:06
like
9:06
a
9:06
package.
9:07
That
9:08
became
9:08
the
9:08
second
9:08
book.
9:09
And
9:09
then
9:09
it
9:09
was
9:10
after
9:10
that
9:11
someone
9:11
in
9:11
my
9:11
life
9:12
said
9:12
to
9:12
me,
9:13
I
9:13
don't
9:13
understand
9:13
why
9:14
you
9:14
haven't
9:14
written
9:14
a
9:15
children's
9:15
book
9:15
yet.
9:15
I
9:16
feel
9:16
like
9:16
you'd
9:16
be
9:16
great
9:17
at
9:17
that.
9:18
That
9:18
kind
9:18
of
9:18
planted
9:18
the
9:19
seed.
9:19
But
9:19
I
9:20
was
9:20
still
9:20
very
9:20
much
9:20
in
9:20
the
9:21
anti
9:21
bullying
9:21
space.
9:22
And
9:22
I,
9:23
I
9:23
wrote,
9:23
you
9:24
won't
9:24
believe
9:24
where
9:25
the
9:25
inspiration
9:25
came
9:25
for
9:25
that
9:26
book
9:26
because
9:26
I
9:27
wrote
9:28
a
9:28
blog
9:28
post
9:29
on
9:30
my
9:30
website
9:31
about
9:32
bullying
9:33
and
9:33
it
9:34
used
9:34
the
9:34
analogy
9:35
of
9:36
a
9:36
wheel,
9:37
and
9:38
it
9:38
said,
9:38
the
9:38
center
9:39
hub
9:39
is
9:39
you,
9:40
and
9:40
the
9:41
spokes
9:41
are
9:42
all
9:42
the
9:42
different
9:43
parts
9:43
of
9:43
your
9:43
life
9:44
that
9:44
fan
9:45
out.
9:45
And
9:46
then
9:46
the
9:46
wheel
9:47
is
9:47
your
9:47
world.
9:48
And.
9:48
And
9:48
the
9:49
mud
9:50
is
9:50
the
9:50
bad
9:50
stuff.
9:51
The
9:51
mud
9:51
is
9:52
the
9:52
stuff
9:52
that
9:53
gets
9:53
us
9:53
to
9:53
feel
9:53
all
9:54
muddied
9:54
up
9:55
and
9:55
we're
9:56
not
9:56
good
9:56
enough.
9:56
And
9:57
now
9:57
we're
9:57
sticky
9:58
and
9:58
we're
9:58
wet
9:59
and
9:59
we're
9:59
muddy,
10:00
and
10:00
how
10:00
do
10:00
we
10:00
keep
10:01
going
10:01
through
10:01
all
10:01
of
10:02
this
10:02
mess?
10:03
So
10:03
that
10:03
was
10:04
the
10:04
blog
10:05
post
10:06
that
10:06
was
10:06
honestly
10:07
online
10:07
and
10:08
live
10:08
for
10:09
at
10:09
least
10:09
a
10:09
year
10:10
or
10:10
two
10:10
before
10:11
anything
10:11
dawned
10:11
on
10:11
me.
10:12
But
10:12
I
10:12
always
10:12
said
10:13
to
10:13
myself,
10:13
if
10:13
I'm
10:13
going
10:13
to
10:14
write
10:14
a
10:14
children's
10:14
book,
10:14
I
10:15
wanted
10:15
to
10:15
have
10:15
a
10:15
unique
10:16
character.
10:17
And
10:17
I
10:17
didn't
10:17
want
10:17
it
10:18
to
10:18
be
10:18
an
10:18
animal,
10:18
and
10:19
I
10:19
didn't
10:19
want
10:19
it
10:19
to
10:19
be
10:20
just
10:20
another
10:20
kid
10:20
with
10:21
a
10:21
random
10:21
name.
10:22
I
10:22
wanted
10:22
it
10:22
to
10:22
be
10:23
something
10:23
totally
10:23
different.
10:24
And
10:25
something
10:26
made
10:26
me
10:26
think
10:26
back
10:27
to
10:27
this
10:27
blog
10:27
post,
10:28
and
10:28
I
10:28
said,
10:28
wait
10:28
a
10:28
second,
10:29
I
10:29
wrote
10:29
something
10:29
about
10:30
a
10:30
wheel.
10:31
I
10:31
gotta
10:32
go
10:32
back
10:32
to
10:32
that.
10:33
And
10:33
that's
10:33
where
10:33
it
10:33
all
10:34
started.
10:34
That's
10:34
where
10:34
Spokes
10:35
was
10:35
born.
10:36
And
10:36
I
10:36
thought,
10:36
this
10:37
is
10:37
my
10:37
character.
10:38
And
10:39
in
10:39
each
10:39
of
10:39
my
10:39
books,
10:39
I
10:40
still
10:40
use
10:40
this
10:40
analogy.
10:41
So
10:41
kids
10:42
can
10:42
visualize.
10:43
Picture
10:43
your
10:43
life
10:44
as
10:44
a
10:44
bicycle
10:44
wheel.
10:45
And
10:45
how
10:46
does
10:46
that
10:46
fit
10:46
into
10:47
this
10:47
particular
10:47
story,
10:48
Whether
10:48
it's
10:48
Money,
10:49
Spokes,
10:49
Speedy,
10:50
or
10:50
Spokes,
10:50
or
10:50
whatever
10:50
else
10:51
is
10:51
going
10:51
to
10:51
come
10:51
next.
10:52
And
10:53
that's
10:53
how
10:53
it
10:54
all
10:54
started.
10:54
And
10:55
I
10:55
love
10:55
it
10:55
because
10:56
I
10:57
have
10:57
two
10:57
of
10:57
your
10:57
books,
10:58
and
10:58
I
10:59
love
10:59
how
10:59
you
10:59
can
11:00
bring
11:01
a
11:02
wheel
11:03
to
11:03
life
11:04
and
11:04
we'll
11:05
get
11:05
more
11:05
into
11:05
that.
11:06
So
11:06
thank
11:06
you
11:06
for
11:07
sharing
11:07
that.
11:08
The
11:08
other
11:09
thing
11:09
I
11:09
like
11:09
doing,
11:10
Katie,
11:10
is
11:10
talking
11:11
about
11:12
your
11:13
book
11:13
business,
11:14
because
11:15
once
11:15
you
11:15
create
11:16
a
11:16
children's
11:17
book,
11:17
I
11:18
think
11:18
a
11:18
lot
11:18
of
11:18
people
11:19
don't
11:19
realize
11:20
they've
11:20
just
11:20
created
11:21
a
11:21
product.
11:22
And
11:22
with
11:23
a
11:23
product,
11:24
sometimes
11:24
it's
11:25
just
11:25
to
11:25
satisfy
11:26
an
11:27
inner
11:27
desire
11:28
and
11:28
a
11:28
passion.
11:29
And
11:29
you're
11:29
happy
11:30
to
11:30
sell
11:30
one
11:30
or
11:30
two
11:31
copies
11:31
to
11:31
your
11:32
friends
11:32
and
11:32
family,
11:33
and
11:33
you've
11:33
got
11:33
that
11:34
in
11:34
your
11:34
system.
11:35
But
11:35
99%
11:36
of
11:37
every
11:37
single
11:38
children's
11:38
book
11:38
author
11:39
I've
11:39
talked
11:39
to
11:40
has
11:41
always
11:42
either
11:42
written
11:43
multiple
11:43
books
11:44
or
11:45
they're
11:45
about
11:45
to
11:46
write
11:46
their
11:46
next
11:47
book.
11:47
When
11:48
I
11:48
hear
11:48
that,
11:48
I
11:49
realize,
11:50
oh,
11:51
like,
11:52
they're
11:52
thinking
11:52
of
11:53
it
11:53
more
11:53
as
11:54
a
11:54
business,
11:55
but
11:55
what
11:56
does
11:56
that
11:56
business
11:56
look
11:57
like?
11:57
And
11:57
you're
11:58
a
11:58
great
11:58
person
11:58
to
11:58
talk
11:59
to
11:59
because
12:00
you're
12:00
multifaceted.
12:01
If
12:01
anybody
12:02
goes
12:02
to
12:03
your
12:03
website,
12:03
they'll
12:04
see
12:04
how
12:04
multifaceted
12:05
you
12:05
are.
12:06
But
12:06
I'm
12:06
curious.
12:08
I
12:08
know
12:08
you've
12:08
written
12:09
several
12:09
books
12:10
on
12:10
Mental
12:11
health,
12:11
bullying,
12:12
pet
12:13
grief.
12:14
But
12:14
besides
12:15
that,
12:15
I
12:15
noticed
12:15
you're
12:16
also
12:16
the
12:16
illustrator.
12:17
So
12:18
again,
12:18
I'm
12:18
looking
12:19
at
12:19
this
12:19
and
12:19
thinking,
12:20
wow,
12:20
Katie,
12:21
now
12:21
you've
12:22
got
12:22
all
12:22
of
12:22
these
12:23
tools
12:23
in
12:23
your
12:24
tool
12:24
belt.
12:25
Tell
12:25
us,
12:25
how
12:26
are
12:26
you
12:26
building
12:27
your
12:27
children's
12:28
book
12:28
business
12:29
from
12:29
all
12:30
of
12:30
these
12:30
tools
12:31
that
12:31
you
12:31
have?
12:33
Talk
12:33
to
12:33
us
12:33
about
12:33
that.
12:34
Really
12:35
great
12:35
question,
12:36
and
12:36
I
12:36
think
12:37
it's
12:37
really
12:37
important
12:38
to
12:38
talk
12:38
about,
12:39
just
12:39
as
12:39
you
12:39
mentioned,
12:40
because
12:41
I
12:42
think
12:42
as
12:42
a
12:42
new
12:43
author,
12:43
we
12:44
tend
12:44
to
12:44
think,
12:45
oh,
12:45
I
12:45
just
12:45
need
12:46
to
12:46
write
12:47
the
12:47
book
12:47
and
12:48
get
12:48
it
12:48
out
12:48
there.
12:50
And
12:50
that
12:50
is
12:51
only
12:52
one
12:52
small
12:52
piece
12:53
of
12:53
the
12:53
big
12:54
giant
12:54
business
12:55
and
12:55
the
12:55
big
12:55
giant
12:56
battle,
12:56
if
12:56
you
12:57
want
12:57
to
12:57
put
12:57
it
12:57
that
12:57
way.
12:58
I'm
12:58
an
12:58
indie
12:59
author,
12:59
and
13:00
with
13:00
that
13:01
comes
13:01
a
13:02
lot
13:02
of
13:02
control,
13:03
and
13:03
it
13:04
comes
13:04
higher
13:04
royalties
13:05
and
13:05
all
13:05
that
13:05
fun
13:06
stuff.
13:06
But
13:07
it
13:07
also
13:07
comes
13:08
with
13:08
a
13:08
lot
13:10
of
13:10
pressure
13:11
on
13:11
ourselves
13:12
because
13:13
we
13:14
are
13:14
the
13:14
marketing
13:15
engine.
13:15
It's
13:16
us.
13:16
It's
13:16
not
13:17
some
13:17
monster
13:18
traditional
13:18
publishing
13:19
house
13:19
behind
13:19
us
13:20
that's
13:20
gonna
13:20
dump
13:21
tens
13:21
of
13:21
thousands
13:22
or
13:22
hundreds
13:22
of
13:22
thousands
13:22
of
13:23
dollars
13:23
into
13:23
us
13:23
and
13:24
sell
13:24
this
13:24
thing
13:24
and
13:24
blow
13:25
it
13:25
up
13:25
worldwide.
13:26
We
13:26
have
13:27
it
13:27
all
13:27
on
13:27
us.
13:28
And
13:29
I
13:29
will
13:29
be
13:29
honest.
13:29
I
13:30
started
13:30
publishing
13:30
books
13:31
in
13:31
2021,
13:32
and
13:33
that
13:33
is
13:33
still
13:34
my
13:35
biggest
13:35
focus
13:35
and
13:36
my
13:36
biggest
13:36
battle.
13:37
And
13:37
where
13:37
I
13:37
find
13:38
that
13:38
I
13:38
struggle
13:39
the
13:39
most
13:40
is
13:40
that
13:41
I
13:41
have
13:41
learned,
13:42
especially
13:42
in
13:42
the
13:42
last
13:42
six
13:43
months
13:43
to
13:43
one
13:43
year,
13:44
talking
13:44
to
13:44
all
13:44
kinds
13:45
of
13:45
different
13:45
people.
13:46
I'm
13:46
an
13:46
idea
13:47
person.
13:47
The
13:47
ideas
13:48
don't
13:48
stop.
13:49
And
13:49
a
13:50
lot
13:50
of
13:50
them,
13:51
I
13:51
think
13:51
are
13:52
great.
13:53
But
13:53
number
13:53
one,
13:54
I
13:54
don't
13:54
have
13:55
time
13:55
to
13:55
implement
13:55
them
13:55
all.
13:56
Number
13:57
two,
13:57
the
13:58
constant
13:58
thing
13:58
that
13:58
I
13:58
struggle
13:59
with
13:59
is
13:59
where
14:00
to
14:00
put
14:00
my
14:00
time
14:01
next
14:01
and
14:02
what
14:02
should
14:02
I
14:02
do
14:03
right
14:03
now?
14:04
And
14:05
I've
14:05
done
14:05
a
14:05
lot
14:05
of
14:05
things
14:06
to
14:06
try
14:06
to
14:06
build
14:06
this
14:07
children's
14:07
book
14:07
business.
14:08
So
14:08
I've
14:08
gone
14:08
into
14:09
schools
14:09
and
14:10
I've
14:10
done
14:10
readings
14:10
in
14:11
there,
14:12
and
14:12
that
14:12
has
14:13
led
14:13
to
14:13
book
14:13
sales.
14:13
And
14:14
I've
14:14
had
14:14
lots
14:14
of
14:14
great
14:15
feedback
14:16
directly
14:16
from
14:16
kids,
14:17
which
14:18
is
14:18
the
14:18
best.
14:19
I
14:19
love
14:19
doing
14:20
that
14:20
kind
14:20
of
14:20
stuff.
14:21
And
14:21
the
14:21
more
14:22
authors.
14:22
Can
14:22
I
14:23
just.
14:23
I
14:23
want
14:23
to
14:23
understand
14:24
a
14:24
lot
14:24
of
14:24
published
14:25
children's
14:25
book
14:26
authors
14:26
that
14:26
I
14:26
have
14:26
on
14:26
the
14:27
show,
14:27
they
14:28
also
14:28
have
14:28
done
14:29
school
14:30
readings.
14:31
I'm
14:31
curious
14:31
because
14:32
you
14:32
said
14:32
from
14:33
that
14:33
you
14:33
were
14:33
able
14:34
to
14:35
garner
14:35
sales.
14:36
Because
14:36
a
14:36
lot
14:36
of
14:36
times
14:37
when
14:37
I
14:37
talk
14:38
to
14:39
some
14:39
of
14:39
the
14:39
children's
14:40
book
14:40
authors
14:40
that
14:40
I've
14:40
had
14:41
on
14:41
the
14:41
show,
14:42
they
14:42
don't
14:42
get
14:42
any
14:43
sales
14:43
or
14:43
they
14:44
get
14:44
few
14:44
sales.
14:45
It's
14:45
having
14:45
a
14:46
system
14:46
in
14:46
place.
14:46
What
14:47
system
14:47
have
14:47
you
14:48
gone
14:48
in
14:48
place
14:49
when
14:49
you
14:49
do
14:49
your
14:50
school
14:50
visits
14:51
or
14:51
you
14:51
do
14:51
your
14:52
book
14:52
reading
14:52
so
14:53
that
14:53
we
14:53
can
14:54
Share
14:54
a
14:54
little
14:54
insight
14:55
as
14:55
people
14:55
build
14:56
out
14:56
their
14:56
business.
14:57
One
14:58
thing
14:58
I
14:58
think
14:58
that
14:58
really
14:58
helps
14:59
and
14:59
that
14:59
worked
15:00
for
15:00
me.
15:00
And
15:00
again,
15:00
this
15:01
didn't
15:01
one
15:02
school
15:02
visit
15:03
with
15:03
I
15:03
think
15:04
it
15:04
was
15:04
three
15:04
classes,
15:05
maybe
15:05
about
15:05
50
15:06
kids
15:07
in
15:07
this
15:07
one
15:08
particular
15:08
one
15:08
that
15:08
I'm
15:09
thinking
15:09
of
15:09
that
15:10
didn't
15:10
amount
15:10
to
15:11
an
15:12
obscene
15:12
amount
15:12
of
15:13
sales,
15:13
don't
15:13
get
15:13
me
15:13
wrong.
15:14
But
15:14
definitely
15:15
some.
15:15
And
15:15
I
15:15
think
15:16
the
15:16
key
15:16
is
15:17
really
15:18
doing
15:18
your
15:18
best
15:18
when
15:18
you
15:18
have
15:19
that
15:19
opportunity
15:19
in
15:19
front
15:20
of
15:20
the
15:20
kids
15:21
to
15:21
get
15:22
on
15:22
their
15:22
level,
15:23
get
15:24
right
15:24
in
15:25
close
15:25
with
15:25
them
15:26
and
15:27
laugh
15:27
with
15:27
them
15:28
and
15:28
share
15:29
story
15:29
with
15:29
them
15:29
and
15:29
then
15:30
talk
15:30
to
15:30
them
15:30
after.
15:31
And
15:32
I
15:32
had
15:32
a
15:32
bunch
15:33
of
15:33
them
15:33
come
15:33
up
15:33
to
15:33
me
15:34
afterwards
15:35
and
15:35
just
15:35
say,
15:35
oh,
15:35
I
15:36
really
15:36
love
15:37
that
15:37
book.
15:37
And
15:38
I
15:38
gave
15:39
out
15:39
cards
15:39
so
15:40
this
15:40
is
15:40
the
15:40
next
15:40
important
15:40
piece
15:41
of
15:41
the
15:41
puzzle.
15:41
So
15:41
I
15:41
gave
15:42
out
15:42
cards
15:43
to
15:43
each
15:44
kid
15:44
and
15:44
the
15:44
teachers
15:45
actually
15:45
helped
15:45
me
15:46
do
15:46
this
15:46
as
15:46
well
15:46
that
15:47
they
15:47
could
15:47
bring
15:47
home
15:47
to
15:47
their
15:48
parents.
15:48
And
15:49
the
15:49
sale
15:49
is
15:49
coming
15:50
from
15:50
the
15:50
kid
15:50
in
15:51
this
15:51
case,
15:51
not
15:52
the
15:52
parent,
15:52
which
15:53
it's
15:53
often
15:53
the
15:53
other
15:54
way
15:54
around
15:54
with
15:54
children's
15:55
books.
15:55
Right.
15:55
You're
15:55
almost
15:56
selling
15:56
to
15:56
the
15:57
parent
15:57
because
15:57
the
15:57
parent
15:57
says
15:58
ooh,
15:59
I
15:59
like
15:59
this
15:59
message
16:00
for
16:00
my
16:00
kids
16:00
or
16:00
ooh,
16:01
this
16:01
is
16:01
a
16:01
great
16:01
story.
16:01
They're
16:02
going
16:02
to
16:02
relate
16:02
to
16:02
this
16:03
and
16:03
they're
16:03
the
16:03
gatekeeper
16:04
of
16:04
the
16:04
money.
16:05
Precisely.
16:07
In
16:07
this
16:07
case
16:08
I
16:08
had
16:08
to
16:08
get
16:08
those
16:09
cards
16:09
in
16:09
the
16:09
kids
16:10
hands
16:10
and
16:10
hope
16:11
that
16:11
I
16:11
made
16:11
enough
16:11
of
16:12
a
16:12
good
16:12
impression
16:13
that
16:13
that
16:13
the
16:13
kid
16:13
goes
16:14
home
16:14
and
16:14
says
16:15
mom,
16:15
this
16:16
author
16:16
came
16:16
to
16:16
school
16:17
today,
16:17
I
16:17
love
16:18
her
16:18
book,
16:18
can
16:18
we
16:19
please
16:19
get
16:19
it?
16:19
Here's
16:20
the
16:20
card.
16:20
And
16:21
then
16:21
quick
16:21
QR
16:22
code
16:22
parent
16:23
takes
16:23
it
16:23
from
16:23
there.
16:23
But
16:23
it
16:24
has
16:24
to
16:24
be
16:24
driven
16:24
from
16:25
the
16:25
kid.
16:26
So
16:26
I
16:27
do
16:27
find
16:27
that
16:27
wherever
16:28
I
16:28
go
16:29
I
16:29
always
16:29
like
16:30
to
16:30
have
16:30
a
16:30
giveaway
16:31
and
16:31
it's
16:31
just
16:31
small.
16:32
It's
16:32
literally.
16:32
I
16:33
don't
16:33
really
16:33
like
16:33
the
16:33
small
16:33
business
16:34
cards
16:34
anymore.
16:34
A
16:35
little
16:35
bigger
16:35
to
16:35
make
16:36
more
16:36
of
16:36
a
16:36
statement.
16:36
But
16:37
you
16:37
have
16:37
to
16:37
have
16:37
something
16:38
to
16:38
put
16:38
in
16:38
people's
16:38
hands.
16:39
I
16:39
know
16:39
it
16:39
sounds
16:39
old
16:39
school,
16:40
but
16:40
it's
16:40
still
16:40
really
16:41
important
16:41
because
16:41
I
16:42
think
16:42
that
16:42
drives
16:43
the
16:43
action
16:43
that
16:44
later
16:44
because
16:44
they're
16:45
going
16:45
to
16:45
leave
16:45
and
16:45
then
16:46
they
16:46
might
16:46
forget
16:46
or
16:47
it
16:47
slips
16:47
their
16:47
mind.
16:48
But
16:48
if
16:48
you've
16:48
got
16:48
a
16:49
little
16:49
reminder
16:50
that
16:50
helps
16:50
a
16:51
lot.
16:51
Then
16:51
of
16:51
course
16:52
getting
16:52
on
16:53
the
16:53
side
16:53
of
16:53
the
16:53
teachers
16:54
and
16:54
at
16:54
the
16:54
administration
16:55
if
16:55
you
16:55
can,
16:56
and
16:57
they
16:57
might
16:57
say,
16:58
okay,
16:58
we're
16:58
going
16:58
to
16:58
send
16:59
out
16:59
an
16:59
email
16:59
saying
17:00
that
17:00
you're
17:00
coming
17:01
with
17:01
links
17:02
to
17:02
your
17:02
books
17:03
or
17:04
after
17:04
the
17:04
fact,
17:05
we're
17:05
going
17:05
to
17:05
remind
17:05
people
17:05
where
17:06
they
17:06
can
17:06
get
17:06
your
17:06
books
17:07
after
17:07
the
17:07
reading.
17:08
That's
17:08
also
17:09
helpful
17:09
too.
17:10
When
17:10
you
17:11
look
17:11
at
17:11
your
17:12
overall
17:12
children's
17:13
book
17:13
business,
17:15
how
17:15
much
17:16
revenue
17:16
would
17:16
you
17:17
say
17:17
directly
17:18
or
17:18
indirectly
17:19
comes
17:19
from
17:20
school
17:20
visits
17:21
and
17:22
public
17:22
readings
17:23
and
17:25
break
17:25
your
17:25
book
17:26
business
17:26
down
17:26
a
17:26
bit
17:27
more
17:27
on
17:28
how
17:28
your
17:28
different
17:29
sources
17:29
of
17:29
revenue.
17:31
I
17:31
just
17:31
feel
17:32
in
17:32
this
17:32
day
17:32
and
17:32
age,
17:32
it's
17:33
so
17:33
much
17:33
more
17:33
efficient
17:34
if
17:34
we
17:34
can
17:35
do
17:36
stuff
17:36
online,
17:37
obviously.
17:39
But
17:40
I'm
17:40
still
17:40
trying
17:41
to
17:41
figure
17:41
out
17:42
whether
17:42
that's
17:43
really
17:43
all
17:43
that
17:43
effective
17:44
in
17:44
some
17:44
cases.
17:45
And
17:45
I
17:45
think
17:45
it
17:45
just
17:46
depends.
17:46
So
17:47
I
17:47
really
17:47
try
17:47
to
17:48
do
17:48
a
17:48
mix.
17:49
Okay.
17:50
And
17:50
it
17:50
depends
17:51
on
17:51
the
17:51
time
17:51
of
17:51
year.
17:52
So
17:52
I
17:52
find
17:52
that
17:52
sometimes
17:53
I
17:53
piggyback
17:54
a
17:54
few
17:54
school
17:54
visits
17:55
or
17:55
in
17:55
person
17:55
events.
17:56
So
17:56
I
17:56
just
17:56
had
17:57
a
17:57
book
17:57
signing
17:58
at
17:58
Barnes
17:58
and
17:58
Noble
17:59
that
18:00
related
18:00
to
18:00
a
18:00
few
18:00
sales.
18:01
Plus
18:01
I
18:01
got
18:02
a
18:02
book
18:02
coaching
18:03
client
18:03
just
18:03
by
18:04
being
18:04
in
18:04
Barnes
18:04
and
18:04
Noble
18:05
that
18:05
day,
18:05
which
18:06
is
18:06
very
18:06
profitable.
18:07
I
18:07
think
18:07
it
18:07
depends
18:08
on
18:08
the
18:08
time,
18:08
it
18:09
depends
18:09
on
18:09
the
18:09
place,
18:10
it
18:10
depends
18:10
on
18:11
what
18:11
did
18:12
you
18:12
do
18:12
in
18:12
that
18:13
moment,
18:13
who
18:13
walked
18:13
through
18:13
the
18:14
door?
18:14
Obviously
18:14
there's
18:14
so
18:14
many
18:15
ifs,
18:15
but
18:16
I
18:16
like
18:16
to
18:16
do
18:17
a
18:17
mix.
18:18
And
18:18
my
18:18
biggest
18:19
goal,
18:19
I
18:19
think
18:20
would
18:20
be
18:22
more
18:22
so
18:22
I
18:23
still
18:23
want
18:23
to
18:23
do
18:23
all
18:23
the
18:24
in
18:24
person
18:24
things.
18:24
I
18:24
think
18:25
they're
18:25
really
18:25
important.
18:26
And
18:26
then
18:27
mixing
18:27
that
18:27
up
18:28
with
18:28
a
18:28
few
18:28
more
18:28
detailed
18:29
videos,
18:29
not
18:30
just
18:30
short
18:31
social
18:31
media
18:31
videos,
18:32
but
18:33
detailed,
18:33
longer
18:34
readings
18:34
and
18:35
explaining
18:35
concepts
18:36
and
18:36
things
18:36
like
18:36
that.
18:37
Almost
18:37
using
18:37
the
18:37
content
18:38
from
18:38
my
18:38
books
18:39
to
18:39
put
18:39
up
18:39
more
18:39
educational
18:40
videos
18:40
on
18:41
YouTube
18:41
because
18:41
I
18:42
think
18:42
that
18:42
could
18:42
be
18:42
a
18:43
very
18:43
good
18:43
play.
18:44
People
18:44
go
18:45
to
18:45
YouTube,
18:45
then
18:45
they're
18:45
gonna
18:46
go
18:46
to
18:46
the
18:46
site,
18:46
okay,
18:47
I
18:47
like
18:47
this.
18:47
And
18:47
hopefully
18:48
buy
18:48
the
18:48
books.
18:49
We'll
18:49
see.
18:50
But
18:50
it's
18:50
hard
18:50
for
18:51
me
18:51
to
18:51
break
18:51
down
18:51
that
18:51
percentage.
18:52
I
18:52
feel
18:52
like
18:52
it's
18:52
different
18:53
at
18:53
different
18:53
times
18:53
of
18:54
year
18:54
to
18:54
answer
18:54
your
18:54
question
18:55
and
18:55
to
18:56
pick
18:56
up
18:56
what
18:56
you
18:56
said.
18:57
And
18:57
I'm
18:57
seeing
18:58
this
18:58
more
18:58
and
18:58
more
18:59
because
18:59
I
18:59
talked
19:00
to
19:00
Dina
19:00
Morris,
19:00
episode
19:01
83,
19:01
a
19:02
published
19:02
children's
19:03
book
19:03
author
19:03
out
19:03
of
19:04
New,
19:05
and
19:05
she
19:05
wrote
19:06
a
19:06
book,
19:06
but
19:06
she
19:07
also
19:07
created
19:08
a
19:08
curriculum
19:09
to
19:09
go
19:09
with
19:10
the
19:10
book.
19:11
And
19:11
that
19:12
allowed
19:12
her
19:13
to
19:13
create
19:14
more
19:14
revenue.
19:15
And
19:15
after
19:16
talking
19:16
to
19:16
her,
19:17
I
19:17
really
19:17
believe
19:17
that
19:18
could
19:18
be
19:18
the
19:18
biggest
19:19
part
19:19
of
19:19
her
19:19
revenue
19:20
is
19:21
the
19:21
curriculum.
19:22
And
19:22
the
19:22
sales
19:23
of
19:23
the
19:23
books
19:23
would
19:23
be
19:24
almost
19:25
like
19:25
an
19:25
add
19:25
on.
19:26
And
19:27
so
19:27
when
19:27
I
19:27
listen
19:28
to
19:28
how
19:28
you're
19:29
talking
19:29
and
19:29
also
19:30
knowing
19:30
that
19:30
you
19:30
have
19:31
a
19:31
coaching
19:32
background
19:33
and
19:33
that
19:34
it's
19:34
funny
19:34
whether
19:35
it's
19:35
yourself
19:35
as,
19:36
as
19:36
an
19:36
indie
19:36
children's
19:37
book
19:37
author
19:38
or
19:38
myself,
19:39
we
19:39
all
19:40
get
19:40
the
19:40
question,
19:40
how
19:41
do
19:41
I
19:41
go
19:41
about
19:42
becoming
19:43
a
19:43
published
19:43
children's
19:44
book
19:44
author?
19:45
And
19:45
you've
19:46
obviously
19:47
taken
19:47
advantage
19:48
of
19:48
that
19:48
and
19:49
are
19:49
coaching
19:50
people
19:50
on
19:50
how
19:50
to
19:51
do
19:51
that.
19:51
And
19:52
then
19:52
that
19:52
in
19:53
itself
19:53
could
19:54
lead
19:54
to
19:55
multiple
19:55
sales.
19:56
As
19:56
you
19:57
either
19:57
coach
19:58
a
19:59
single
19:59
individual
20:00
or
20:00
someone
20:01
invites
20:01
you
20:02
to
20:02
coach
20:03
a
20:03
group.
20:03
Talk
20:04
to
20:04
us
20:04
a
20:04
little
20:04
bit
20:04
about
20:05
how
20:06
you
20:06
ended
20:06
up
20:07
in
20:07
the
20:07
coaching
20:08
realm.
20:10
Sure.
20:11
And
20:11
before
20:11
I
20:11
do
20:11
that,
20:12
I
20:12
actually
20:12
have
20:12
one
20:12
quick
20:13
question,
20:13
because
20:13
this
20:14
constantly
20:15
is
20:15
on
20:15
my
20:15
mind
20:15
when
20:16
I
20:16
think
20:16
about
20:16
supplementary
20:17
material
20:18
to
20:18
go
20:18
along
20:18
with
20:19
a
20:19
book
20:19
such
20:19
as
20:19
a
20:19
curriculum.
20:20
Does
20:20
that
20:21
other
20:21
author
20:22
have
20:22
a
20:22
teaching
20:22
background
20:23
or
20:23
a
20:23
teaching
20:24
degree?
20:24
And
20:24
that's
20:24
what
20:25
enabled
20:25
them
20:25
to
20:26
see
20:26
that's
20:26
key.
20:26
I
20:27
don't
20:27
have
20:27
that.
20:28
That's
20:28
a
20:28
great
20:29
question.
20:29
Because
20:30
what
20:30
I'm
20:30
finding
20:30
is
20:31
about
20:31
75%
20:33
of
20:34
the
20:34
children's
20:35
book
20:35
authors
20:36
that
20:36
I
20:36
talk
20:36
to
20:37
so
20:37
far
20:37
have
20:38
either
20:38
come
20:38
from
20:39
a
20:39
teaching
20:40
background,
20:40
whether
20:41
they're
20:41
still
20:41
active
20:42
or
20:42
retired,
20:43
or
20:44
they
20:44
come
20:44
from
20:44
an
20:45
early
20:45
childhood
20:46
development
20:47
background.
20:48
They're
20:48
getting
20:49
involved
20:50
with
20:50
kids
20:51
prior
20:51
to
20:51
them,
20:51
even
20:52
starting
20:52
in
20:52
school.
20:54
What's
20:54
interesting,
20:54
they
20:54
all
20:55
have
20:55
some
20:56
sort
20:56
of
20:56
teaching
20:57
background.
20:57
But
20:57
I'm
20:58
finding
20:58
now
20:58
that
20:59
people
20:59
are
20:59
realizing
21:00
if
21:00
they're
21:00
going
21:00
to
21:01
build
21:01
out
21:01
their
21:01
business,
21:02
they
21:02
need
21:02
to
21:02
find
21:03
a
21:03
way
21:03
to
21:03
do
21:03
that.
21:04
And
21:04
if
21:04
you're
21:05
a
21:05
teacher,
21:06
one
21:06
of
21:06
the
21:06
skills
21:06
that
21:07
you
21:07
generally
21:07
have
21:08
is
21:08
how
21:08
to
21:08
develop
21:09
a
21:09
curriculum.
21:10
Because
21:10
then
21:11
a
21:11
lot
21:11
of
21:11
them
21:11
are
21:11
now
21:12
going
21:12
to
21:12
educational
21:13
school
21:14
boards
21:15
with
21:15
their
21:15
curriculum
21:16
because
21:17
they
21:17
speak
21:17
the
21:17
language.
21:18
In
21:18
your
21:19
case,
21:20
you're
21:20
talking
21:20
to
21:21
individuals
21:21
who
21:21
are
21:22
looking
21:22
for
21:23
someone
21:24
to
21:24
coach
21:24
them,
21:25
and
21:26
that's
21:26
a
21:26
skill
21:27
that
21:27
you
21:27
have.
21:28
That's
21:28
why
21:28
I
21:28
was
21:29
curious
21:29
from
21:29
the
21:29
coaching
21:30
standpoint,
21:31
because
21:31
not
21:31
all
21:32
of
21:32
us
21:32
have
21:32
a
21:32
teaching
21:32
background.
21:33
Coaching
21:34
side
21:34
of
21:34
things
21:34
is
21:35
interesting.
21:35
For
21:36
me,
21:36
I
21:36
was
21:37
strictly
21:37
in
21:38
the
21:38
writing
21:39
space,
21:39
whether
21:39
it
21:40
be
21:40
my
21:40
own
21:40
books
21:41
or
21:42
for
21:42
my
21:42
clients
21:42
through
21:43
my
21:43
business.
21:44
Only
21:45
very
21:45
recently,
21:46
within
21:46
the
21:47
past
21:48
six
21:49
to
21:49
eight
21:49
months,
21:50
did
21:50
I
21:50
really
21:50
start
21:51
to
21:52
consider
21:53
this
21:53
coaching
21:54
avenue
21:55
and
21:55
start
21:55
to
21:56
go
21:56
more
21:56
that
21:56
route.
21:57
I
21:58
was
21:58
getting
21:58
a
21:58
lot
21:58
of
21:59
people
21:59
reaching
22:00
out,
22:00
asking
22:01
questions.
22:01
And
22:01
I
22:01
was
22:01
noticing
22:02
even
22:02
some
22:02
of
22:02
my
22:02
larger
22:03
clients
22:03
that
22:03
are
22:03
doing
22:04
books
22:04
that
22:04
I
22:04
would
22:04
normally
22:05
just
22:05
ghost
22:05
write
22:06
on
22:06
their
22:06
behalf,
22:07
they
22:08
started
22:09
wanting
22:09
to
22:10
do
22:10
more
22:10
of
22:10
it
22:10
themselves,
22:11
which
22:11
I
22:11
actually
22:12
think
22:12
is
22:12
a
22:12
beautiful
22:12
thing.
22:13
And
22:14
these
22:14
days,
22:14
with
22:15
all
22:15
of
22:15
the
22:15
tools
22:16
that
22:16
we
22:16
have
22:16
at
22:16
our
22:17
disposal,
22:18
and
22:18
I'm
22:18
not
22:18
talking
22:19
about
22:19
letting
22:19
AI
22:20
write
22:20
your
22:20
whole
22:20
book
22:20
for
22:21
you,
22:21
that's
22:21
not
22:21
what
22:21
I
22:21
mean.
22:22
But
22:22
you
22:22
can
22:23
still
22:23
use
22:23
that
22:24
as
22:25
a
22:25
tool
22:25
to
22:26
get
22:26
over
22:26
your
22:26
writer's
22:27
block,
22:27
to
22:28
help
22:28
you
22:28
with
22:28
that
22:28
one
22:29
sentence
22:29
that
22:29
you're
22:29
stuck
22:29
on
22:30
that
22:30
you
22:30
know
22:30
is
22:30
awful,
22:31
but
22:31
you
22:31
don't
22:31
know
22:31
how
22:31
to
22:31
fix
22:32
it.
22:32
And
22:32
instead
22:32
of
22:32
spending
22:32
the
22:33
next
22:33
45
22:33
minutes
22:33
trying
22:34
to
22:34
fix
22:34
that
22:34
one
22:34
sentence,
22:35
you
22:35
have
22:35
a
22:36
tool
22:36
that
22:36
can
22:36
help
22:36
you
22:36
and
22:37
it's
22:37
still
22:37
a
22:37
very
22:37
ethical
22:38
way
22:38
to
22:38
use
22:38
it.
22:39
So
22:39
I
22:40
started
22:41
coaching
22:42
people
22:42
naturally
22:43
through
22:43
my
22:44
business
22:44
on
22:45
their
22:45
books.
22:46
And
22:46
then
22:46
I
22:46
realized
22:47
how
22:47
much
22:47
I
22:47
love
22:48
that.
22:48
And
22:49
because
22:49
I
22:49
have
22:50
17
22:51
years
22:51
of
22:51
experience
22:52
not
22:53
only
22:53
helping
22:54
people
22:54
bring
22:54
stories
22:54
to
22:55
life,
22:55
but
22:55
also
22:55
coaching
22:56
them
22:56
through.
22:57
Because
22:57
sometimes
22:58
the
22:58
ghost
22:58
writing
22:58
process,
22:59
especially
22:59
if
22:59
you're
23:00
producing
23:00
any
23:01
book,
23:02
you
23:02
would
23:03
be
23:03
surprised
23:04
what
23:04
you're
23:04
going
23:04
to
23:04
go
23:04
through.
23:05
And
23:05
even
23:05
mentally
23:06
you're
23:06
going
23:06
to
23:06
go
23:07
through
23:07
imposter
23:07
syndrome.
23:08
I
23:08
don't
23:08
care
23:08
who
23:08
you
23:09
are,
23:09
even
23:09
if
23:09
you
23:10
are
23:10
someone
23:10
who's
23:10
done
23:11
this
23:11
a
23:11
million
23:11
times,
23:11
and
23:11
I'm
23:12
sure
23:12
you
23:12
can
23:12
agree
23:12
with
23:12
me,
23:13
you're
23:13
going
23:13
to
23:13
go
23:13
through
23:14
at
23:14
least
23:14
a
23:15
few
23:15
moments
23:15
where
23:15
you
23:16
say
23:16
is
23:16
this
23:17
any
23:17
good?
23:17
And
23:17
should
23:17
I
23:18
carry
23:18
on?
23:18
I
23:18
don't
23:18
even
23:19
know,
23:19
right?
23:20
Imposter
23:21
syndrome.
23:21
Fear,
23:22
self
23:22
doubt,
23:23
hesitation,
23:25
writer's
23:25
block,
23:26
creative
23:27
block,
23:27
whatever
23:28
it
23:28
may
23:28
be.
23:29
Sometimes
23:30
in
23:30
these
23:30
bigger
23:30
scale
23:31
projects
23:31
in
23:31
life,
23:31
I
23:32
really
23:32
believe
23:32
you
23:33
just
23:33
need
23:33
someone
23:33
in
23:34
your
23:34
corner.
23:35
You
23:35
need
23:35
a
23:36
partner,
23:36
you
23:36
need
23:37
a
23:37
coach.
23:38
And
23:38
if
23:38
I
23:39
look
23:39
at
23:39
the
23:39
way
23:39
I
23:39
did
23:40
things
23:40
and
23:40
the
23:40
struggles
23:41
that
23:41
I
23:41
went
23:41
through
23:41
doing
23:42
everything
23:42
by
23:43
myself
23:44
from
23:44
the
23:44
beginning,
23:45
it
23:45
was
23:45
just
23:45
have
23:46
been
23:46
so
23:46
much
23:46
more
23:46
fun
23:47
and
23:47
enjoyable
23:48
and
23:49
efficient
23:50
if
23:50
I
23:50
had
23:51
someone
23:51
like
23:51
who
23:52
I'm
23:52
trying
23:52
to
23:52
be
23:53
now
23:53
for
23:53
people.
23:54
Even
23:55
if
23:55
you
23:55
want
23:56
that
23:56
customized
23:56
as
23:57
a
23:57
coach.
23:57
Right.
23:57
I
23:57
don't
23:57
want
23:57
you
23:58
there
23:58
all
23:58
the
23:58
time,
23:58
but
23:58
I
23:59
need
23:59
you
23:59
for
23:59
this
23:59
and
23:59
that.
24:00
It
24:00
can
24:00
go
24:00
piecemeal.
24:01
I'm
24:02
creating
24:02
these
24:02
mini
24:03
courses
24:03
to
24:03
help
24:03
people
24:04
through
24:04
different
24:04
steps
24:04
and
24:05
phases
24:05
of
24:06
the
24:06
whole
24:06
event.
24:07
And
24:08
that
24:08
is
24:09
how
24:09
I
24:09
got
24:09
into
24:09
it
24:10
is
24:10
because
24:10
it
24:10
came
24:10
naturally.
24:11
But
24:12
I
24:12
also
24:12
loved
24:13
it
24:13
and
24:13
I
24:13
see
24:14
a
24:14
space
24:14
for
24:14
this.
24:15
I
24:15
couldn't
24:15
agree
24:15
with
24:15
you
24:16
more
24:16
because
24:16
I've
24:16
talked
24:17
to
24:17
in
24:18
the
24:18
mid-80s
24:20
Children's
24:20
book
24:20
authors
24:21
that
24:21
I've
24:21
talked
24:22
to
24:22
and
24:23
as
24:23
I
24:24
delve
24:24
into
24:24
the
24:25
business
24:25
part
24:26
of
24:26
their
24:26
children's
24:27
book
24:27
publishing.
24:28
None
24:28
of
24:28
us
24:29
can
24:29
make
24:30
enough
24:30
money
24:31
using
24:32
a
24:32
one
24:32
off
24:33
book
24:33
or
24:33
even
24:34
three
24:34
off
24:35
book
24:35
series.
24:36
There
24:37
is
24:37
things
24:37
that
24:38
come
24:38
to
24:38
you
24:39
that
24:39
you
24:40
have
24:40
to.
24:40
That's
24:40
why
24:41
I
24:41
ask
24:41
about
24:41
a
24:41
business
24:42
plan.
24:42
You
24:42
have
24:42
to
24:42
recognize
24:43
that
24:43
you
24:44
have
24:44
to
24:44
find
24:44
a
24:44
way
24:44
to
24:45
take
24:45
your
24:45
one
24:45
product
24:46
and
24:46
have
24:47
supplementary
24:47
ways
24:48
of
24:48
creating
24:49
revenue.
24:50
And
24:51
to
24:51
your
24:51
point,
24:52
I
24:53
talked
24:53
to
24:54
children's
24:54
book
24:55
author
24:55
Marlee
24:55
Costner,
24:56
episode
24:57
76.
24:57
She
24:58
wrote
24:58
a
24:58
book
24:58
called
24:58
Anan
25:00
and
25:00
it's
25:00
about
25:01
a
25:01
cow
25:02
doing
25:02
yoga
25:03
and
25:04
it's
25:04
very
25:04
cute.
25:05
But
25:05
what
25:06
she
25:06
found
25:06
is
25:07
people
25:07
loved
25:07
her
25:07
book
25:08
but
25:08
she
25:09
ended
25:09
up
25:09
getting
25:10
so
25:10
many
25:10
requests
25:11
on
25:12
how
25:12
do
25:13
I
25:13
become
25:14
a
25:15
published
25:15
children's
25:16
book
25:16
author
25:17
that
25:17
she
25:17
actually
25:17
set
25:18
up
25:18
her
25:18
own
25:18
publishing
25:19
company,
25:19
Garden
25:20
Wolf
25:20
publishing
25:20
House,
25:21
episode
25:21
85,
25:22
and
25:23
is
25:23
now
25:23
coaching
25:24
people
25:24
from
25:25
right
25:25
the
25:26
initial
25:26
thought.
25:27
She
25:28
even
25:28
helps
25:28
them
25:29
with
25:29
their
25:30
book
25:30
business.
25:31
And
25:31
I
25:31
thought,
25:32
wow,
25:32
this
25:32
is
25:32
incredible.
25:33
I'm
25:34
also
25:34
finding
25:34
is
25:35
there's
25:35
more
25:35
and
25:35
more
25:35
of
25:36
us
25:36
looking
25:36
at
25:37
how
25:37
do
25:37
I
25:38
monetize
25:38
this
25:39
in
25:39
a
25:39
way
25:39
that
25:39
I
25:40
can
25:40
keep
25:40
supporting
25:41
my
25:41
habit?
25:41
Because
25:42
once
25:43
you
25:43
get
25:43
into
25:43
this
25:44
thing
25:44
of
25:44
writing
25:44
children's
25:45
books,
25:45
it's
25:46
almost
25:46
like
25:46
a
25:46
habit.
25:47
And
25:47
you
25:47
got
25:48
to
25:48
pay
25:48
for
25:48
your
25:48
habit
25:49
some
25:49
way.
25:49
Some
25:49
of
25:49
us
25:50
like
25:50
to
25:50
ski,
25:50
but
25:51
a
25:51
lot
25:51
of
25:51
people
25:52
like
25:52
to
25:52
do
25:52
children's
25:53
books.
25:53
And
25:53
how
25:54
do
25:54
you
25:54
continue
25:54
to
25:55
support
25:55
that?
25:55
The
25:56
one
25:56
thing
25:56
I
25:57
also
25:57
noticed
25:58
in
25:58
your
25:58
book,
25:59
and
25:59
I
25:59
love,
25:59
and
25:59
I'd
26:00
love
26:00
to
26:00
hear
26:01
how
26:01
it's
26:01
helping
26:01
you,
26:02
is
26:02
that
26:02
you
26:03
use
26:03
a
26:03
QR
26:04
code
26:05
at
26:05
the
26:05
back
26:06
of
26:06
your
26:06
books.
26:07
And
26:07
that
26:08
QR
26:08
code
26:08
when
26:09
I
26:09
scanned
26:10
it,
26:10
the
26:10
one
26:11
that
26:11
I
26:11
scanned,
26:12
of
26:12
course,
26:12
took
26:12
me
26:12
to
26:13
10
26:13
tips
26:14
to
26:14
keep
26:15
your
26:15
cool
26:16
as
26:16
a
26:16
cucumber.
26:17
Talk
26:17
to
26:17
us
26:17
about
26:18
that
26:18
and
26:19
how
26:19
has
26:19
that
26:20
helped
26:21
you
26:21
maybe
26:21
get
26:21
your
26:22
message
26:22
out
26:22
more?
26:24
Yes,
26:24
this
26:25
is
26:25
something
26:25
I
26:25
learned.
26:26
I
26:26
guess
26:26
it
26:27
was
26:27
actually
26:27
after
26:27
I
26:28
initially
26:28
published
26:28
the
26:28
first
26:29
children's
26:29
book.
26:30
And
26:31
I'm
26:32
constantly
26:32
trying
26:32
to
26:32
learn
26:33
and
26:34
to
26:34
develop
26:34
and
26:35
grow
26:35
within
26:35
this
26:35
space.
26:36
And
26:37
as
26:37
we
26:37
know,
26:37
just
26:38
like
26:38
any
26:38
other
26:38
industry,
26:38
it
26:39
is
26:39
constantly
26:40
evolving
26:40
and
26:40
developing.
26:41
You
26:41
learn
26:41
something
26:41
from
26:42
every
26:42
person
26:43
you
26:43
listen
26:43
to
26:43
or
26:44
any
26:44
program
26:44
that
26:45
you
26:45
join
26:45
or
26:45
whatever
26:46
it
26:46
may
26:46
be,
26:46
you're
26:46
always
26:46
going
26:46
to
26:47
get
26:47
at
26:47
least
26:47
one
26:47
takeaway.
26:48
That's
26:48
what
26:48
I
26:48
have
26:48
found.
26:49
Even
26:49
if
26:50
it
26:50
wasn't
26:50
the
26:50
greatest,
26:51
you'll
26:51
at
26:51
least
26:52
take
26:52
one
26:52
thing
26:52
away.
26:53
And
26:53
one
26:53
thing
26:53
I
26:53
learned
26:54
along
26:54
the
26:54
way,
26:55
but
26:55
I
26:55
had
26:55
to
26:55
edit
26:55
the
26:56
book
26:56
and
26:56
republish,
26:57
which
26:57
is
26:57
another
26:57
great
26:58
thing
26:58
about
26:59
being
26:59
an
26:59
indie
27:00
publisher
27:00
and
27:01
author
27:01
is
27:01
that
27:02
if
27:02
you
27:03
error,
27:03
if
27:03
you
27:03
have
27:03
another
27:04
great
27:04
idea
27:04
like
27:04
this,
27:05
you
27:05
can
27:05
simply
27:06
go
27:06
in
27:06
and
27:06
change
27:06
your
27:07
files
27:07
and
27:07
in
27:07
less
27:08
than
27:08
24
27:08
hours,
27:09
it's
27:09
all
27:09
up
27:09
live.
27:10
So
27:10
I
27:10
really
27:10
love
27:10
that
27:11
flexibility
27:11
too.
27:11
And
27:12
I
27:12
want
27:12
to
27:12
pick
27:12
up
27:12
on
27:12
that
27:13
for
27:13
one
27:13
second
27:13
because,
27:14
yeah,
27:14
that
27:14
is
27:15
such
27:15
an
27:15
important
27:16
point
27:16
that
27:16
Katie's
27:17
talking
27:17
about
27:18
as
27:18
an
27:18
independent
27:20
children's
27:20
book
27:20
author
27:21
or
27:21
even
27:21
self
27:22
published.
27:22
Self
27:22
published
27:23
is
27:23
going
27:23
to
27:23
cost
27:24
you
27:24
a
27:24
little
27:24
bit
27:24
more
27:24
because
27:25
you're
27:25
usually
27:25
working
27:26
with
27:26
third
27:26
party.
27:27
But
27:27
on
27:28
the
27:28
same
27:28
token,
27:29
like
27:29
Katie
27:29
said,
27:30
like
27:30
Katie,
27:31
one
27:31
of
27:31
the
27:31
things
27:31
that
27:31
we
27:32
had
27:32
is
27:32
somebody
27:32
said
27:33
to
27:33
me,
27:33
oh,
27:34
you
27:34
should
27:34
have
27:34
a
27:35
book
27:35
plate.
27:35
And
27:36
I
27:36
thought
27:37
so.
27:37
We
27:37
had
27:37
published
27:37
our
27:38
first
27:38
book,
27:39
which
27:39
is
27:39
called
27:39
the
27:39
Adventures
27:40
of
27:40
Caboose
27:41
the
27:41
Rocky
27:41
Mountain
27:41
Bear.
27:42
And
27:42
somebody
27:43
said,
27:43
you
27:43
should
27:43
have
27:43
A
27:44
book
27:44
plate.
27:44
And
27:45
I
27:45
said,
27:45
a
27:45
book
27:45
plate.
27:46
At
27:46
first
27:46
I
27:47
was
27:47
thinking
27:47
they
27:47
meant
27:47
the
27:47
plate
27:48
and
27:48
hang
27:48
it
27:48
on
27:49
the
27:49
wall
27:49
or
27:49
something.
27:50
But
27:50
what
27:50
they
27:51
were
27:51
talking
27:51
about
27:51
is
27:52
at
27:52
the
27:52
front
27:52
of
27:52
the
27:53
book
27:53
was
27:53
adding
27:54
in
27:54
a
27:55
place
27:55
where
27:56
you
27:56
could
27:56
say
27:56
this
27:57
book
27:57
belongs
27:58
to.
27:58
Because
27:58
most
27:59
people
28:00
with
28:00
children's
28:00
books
28:01
are
28:01
giving
28:01
them
28:01
as
28:02
gifts,
28:02
whether
28:02
it's
28:03
the
28:03
grandparent,
28:03
the
28:04
parent,
28:04
a
28:05
friend,
28:05
family
28:06
member.
28:06
And
28:07
so
28:08
I
28:08
thought,
28:08
wow,
28:09
I'd
28:09
love
28:10
to
28:10
add
28:10
it,
28:10
but
28:11
now
28:11
what?
28:11
But
28:12
when
28:12
I
28:12
found
28:12
out
28:12
what
28:12
a
28:13
book
28:13
plate
28:13
was
28:13
and
28:14
I
28:14
went
28:14
back
28:14
to
28:15
our
28:15
graphic
28:16
artist
28:16
and
28:17
he
28:17
said,
28:17
Rick,
28:17
you
28:17
know
28:17
what
28:18
he
28:18
said?
28:18
I
28:19
left
28:19
enough
28:19
room
28:20
on
28:20
the
28:20
front
28:21
inside
28:21
cover
28:21
because
28:22
this
28:22
was
28:22
what
28:22
our
28:22
front
28:23
inside
28:23
cover
28:23
looked
28:24
like
28:24
in
28:24
the
28:24
beginning,
28:25
which
28:25
was
28:25
just
28:25
the
28:26
title
28:26
of
28:26
our
28:26
book.
28:27
And
28:27
then
28:28
he
28:28
said,
28:28
I
28:28
can
28:28
move
28:29
it
28:29
up
28:29
and
28:29
I
28:29
can
28:29
drop
28:30
your
28:30
book
28:30
plate
28:30
right
28:31
on
28:31
that
28:31
page.
28:32
And
28:32
I
28:33
said,
28:33
brilliant.
28:34
And
28:34
he
28:34
did
28:34
that.
28:35
It
28:35
wasn't
28:36
very
28:36
expensive
28:36
for
28:36
him
28:37
to
28:37
do
28:37
that.
28:37
And
28:38
to
28:38
your
28:38
point,
28:39
I
28:39
had
28:39
learned
28:40
to
28:40
download
28:41
the
28:41
files.
28:42
So
28:42
I
28:43
just
28:43
download
28:43
the
28:44
files
28:44
and
28:45
away
28:45
it
28:45
went.
28:46
Anybody
28:47
purchasing
28:48
the
28:48
book
28:48
after
28:49
three
28:49
or
28:49
four
28:49
months
28:50
after
28:50
our
28:50
first
28:51
publishing
28:51
release,
28:52
they
28:52
were
28:52
getting
28:52
it
28:53
with
28:53
a
28:53
book
28:53
plate.
28:54
So
28:54
to
28:54
your
28:54
point,
28:54
the
28:55
nice
28:55
thing
28:55
about
28:55
being
28:56
an
28:56
independent
28:57
or
28:57
self
28:58
published
28:59
children's
28:59
book
28:59
authority,
29:00
you
29:00
can
29:00
make
29:00
those
29:01
changes
29:01
to
29:01
your
29:02
file,
29:02
nobody
29:03
knows.
29:03
Because
29:03
it's
29:04
not
29:04
like
29:04
somebody's
29:04
reading,
29:05
they
29:06
buy
29:06
10
29:06
of
29:06
these
29:07
and
29:07
they
29:07
read
29:07
them
29:08
all
29:08
10
29:08
of
29:09
them.
29:09
They
29:09
buy
29:09
one
29:10
and
29:10
they
29:10
read
29:10
it.
29:10
Thank
29:11
you.
29:11
It's
29:11
such
29:11
an
29:12
important
29:12
message
29:13
to
29:13
talk
29:13
about.
29:15
Yeah,
29:15
I
29:15
agree.
29:16
To
29:16
have
29:16
that
29:16
level
29:17
of
29:17
control,
29:17
it
29:18
does
29:18
really
29:18
start
29:18
to
29:18
feel
29:18
like
29:19
your
29:19
business.
29:20
And
29:20
I've
29:21
heard
29:21
all
29:21
kinds
29:21
of
29:22
stories
29:22
on
29:22
the
29:22
other
29:22
side
29:23
of
29:23
the
29:23
equation
29:23
from
29:24
my
29:24
clients
29:24
who
29:25
some
29:25
of
29:25
them
29:25
even
29:26
have
29:27
a
29:27
book
29:27
that
29:27
was
29:27
traditionally
29:28
published
29:28
and
29:28
then
29:29
they
29:29
also
29:29
have
29:29
one
29:29
that
29:30
some
29:30
people
29:30
do
29:30
both.
29:31
And
29:31
a
29:31
lot
29:32
of
29:32
the
29:32
stories
29:32
on
29:32
the
29:32
other
29:32
side
29:33
are
29:33
just
29:33
these
29:34
stories
29:34
of
29:36
rigidity
29:37
and
29:37
feeling
29:39
really
29:39
bogged
29:40
down
29:40
by
29:41
all
29:41
the
29:41
rules
29:41
that
29:42
they.
29:42
It
29:42
doesn't
29:42
feel
29:43
like
29:43
your
29:43
project
29:43
anymore
29:44
sometimes.
29:44
Yeah,
29:45
it's
29:45
not
29:45
always
29:45
the
29:45
case.
29:46
So
29:46
I
29:46
don't
29:46
want
29:46
to
29:46
completely
29:47
bash
29:47
that
29:47
side
29:48
sometimes.
29:48
It's
29:48
obviously
29:49
a
29:49
great
29:50
play
29:50
and
29:50
you're
29:50
going
29:51
to
29:51
maybe
29:51
blow
29:51
up
29:52
way
29:52
bigger
29:52
than
29:52
you
29:52
would
29:53
if
29:53
you
29:53
are
29:54
indie
29:54
published.
29:54
But
29:55
we
29:55
have
29:55
to,
29:56
as
29:56
indie
29:56
publishers
29:57
and
29:57
indie
29:57
authors,
29:58
embrace
29:59
those
29:59
little
29:59
things
29:59
that
30:00
are
30:00
actually
30:00
a
30:00
huge
30:01
part
30:01
of
30:01
your
30:01
success
30:02
as
30:02
well,
30:02
because
30:03
you
30:03
can
30:03
add
30:03
these
30:03
things
30:04
that
30:04
make
30:04
a
30:04
big
30:04
difference.
30:05
When
30:05
I
30:05
came
30:05
onto
30:06
that
30:06
QR
30:07
code
30:07
idea
30:08
because
30:09
someone
30:09
said
30:09
you've
30:10
gotta
30:10
find
30:10
a
30:10
way
30:11
instead
30:11
of
30:11
just
30:11
plugging
30:12
your
30:12
email
30:12
on
30:12
the
30:12
back
30:13
of
30:13
every
30:13
book,
30:13
which
30:13
I
30:13
also
30:14
do
30:14
along
30:14
with
30:14
my
30:14
website.
30:16
How
30:16
are
30:16
you
30:16
gonna
30:17
keep
30:17
in
30:17
touch
30:17
with
30:17
people?
30:18
How
30:18
can
30:18
you
30:18
try
30:19
to
30:19
get
30:19
them
30:19
still
30:20
engaged
30:20
with
30:20
you
30:20
after
30:21
they
30:21
buy
30:21
a
30:21
book?
30:22
This
30:22
idea
30:22
of
30:22
a
30:22
QR
30:23
code
30:23
and
30:23
giving
30:23
away
30:24
this
30:24
fun
30:24
freebie,
30:26
I
30:26
just
30:26
loved
30:27
it.
30:27
And
30:27
so
30:28
I
30:28
redid
30:28
the
30:28
files
30:29
for
30:29
muddy
30:29
spokes.
30:29
I
30:30
added
30:30
it
30:30
there.
30:30
At
30:30
the
30:31
back
30:31
of
30:31
each
30:31
children's
30:31
book,
30:32
there's
30:32
a
30:32
different
30:32
freebie
30:33
that
30:33
you
30:33
get
30:34
for
30:34
following
30:35
my
30:35
QR
30:36
code.
30:36
And
30:37
then
30:37
your
30:37
email
30:38
comes
30:38
into
30:39
my
30:39
list.
30:40
Right.
30:40
And
30:40
I
30:41
actually
30:41
done
30:41
nearly
30:42
enough
30:42
emails.
30:42
That's
30:43
another
30:43
big
30:43
goal
30:43
of
30:43
mine
30:43
for
30:44
2026.
30:45
I
30:45
don't
30:45
want
30:45
to
30:45
bombard
30:46
people,
30:46
but
30:46
I
30:47
can
30:47
do
30:47
a
30:47
much
30:47
better
30:47
job
30:48
at
30:49
staying
30:49
in
30:49
touch
30:49
and
30:49
offering
30:50
value
30:51
and
30:51
not
30:51
being
30:51
annoying.
30:52
Because
30:52
there's
30:52
some
30:52
emails
30:53
I
30:53
get
30:53
from
30:53
some
30:53
people
30:53
and
30:54
they're
30:54
brilliant
30:54
and
30:55
I
30:55
like
30:55
to
30:55
read
30:55
them,
30:55
and
30:56
they
30:56
put
30:56
me
30:56
in
30:56
a
30:56
nice
30:56
state
30:57
of
30:57
mind,
30:57
and
30:57
that's
30:58
what
30:58
I
30:58
want
30:58
to
30:58
try
30:58
to
30:58
replicate
30:59
more
30:59
of.
30:59
But
31:00
the
31:00
good
31:00
news
31:00
is
31:01
that
31:01
if
31:01
someone
31:01
does
31:01
that
31:01
QR
31:02
code
31:02
at
31:02
the
31:02
back
31:02
of
31:02
your
31:03
book,
31:03
you
31:03
give
31:03
them
31:03
this
31:04
freebie
31:04
that
31:04
probably
31:05
takes
31:05
you
31:05
an
31:05
hour
31:05
to
31:06
develop
31:06
and
31:06
plug
31:07
in.
31:07
And
31:08
then
31:08
they've
31:08
got
31:08
this
31:08
freebie,
31:09
which
31:09
is
31:09
super
31:09
cool.
31:10
Like,
31:10
one
31:10
of
31:10
mine
31:11
was
31:11
even
31:11
the
31:12
one
31:12
illustration
31:13
that
31:13
never
31:13
made
31:13
it
31:14
into
31:14
my
31:14
book.
31:14
And
31:14
why?
31:16
Because
31:16
in
31:17
my
31:17
first
31:17
book,
31:18
it
31:18
was
31:18
a
31:18
funny
31:19
story,
31:19
but
31:19
I
31:19
literally.
31:20
I
31:20
drew
31:21
too
31:22
many
31:22
pictures
31:23
and
31:23
I
31:23
messed
31:24
up
31:24
my
31:24
pagination.
31:25
And
31:25
then
31:25
I
31:26
had
31:26
to
31:26
think
31:26
fast.
31:26
I'm
31:27
like,
31:27
what
31:27
am
31:27
I
31:27
going
31:27
to
31:27
do?
31:27
One
31:28
of
31:28
these
31:28
illustrations
31:28
has
31:29
to
31:29
go.
31:29
But
31:29
I
31:29
love
31:29
all
31:29
of
31:30
them.
31:30
Which
31:30
one
31:30
is
31:30
it
31:31
going
31:31
to
31:31
be?
31:31
I
31:31
love
31:32
it.
31:32
And
31:32
then
31:32
I
31:32
thought,
31:32
when
31:33
I
31:33
came
31:33
up
31:33
with
31:33
the
31:33
QR
31:34
code
31:34
idea,
31:34
I
31:34
thought,
31:34
oh,
31:35
this
31:35
is
31:35
perfect.
31:35
Now
31:35
I
31:36
can
31:36
still
31:36
share
31:36
it
31:37
with
31:37
people.
31:38
I
31:38
want
31:38
to
31:38
pick
31:38
up
31:39
on
31:39
that
31:39
because
31:40
I
31:40
am
31:40
so
31:40
glad
31:41
you're
31:41
excited
31:42
about
31:42
QR
31:42
codes.
31:43
I
31:43
love
31:44
QR
31:44
codes.
31:45
And
31:45
what
31:46
I
31:46
notice
31:46
is
31:46
a
31:47
lot
31:47
of
31:48
children's
31:48
book
31:49
authors,
31:49
they'll
31:49
turn
31:50
around
31:50
and
31:50
they'll
31:51
make
31:51
a
31:52
bookmark
31:53
and
31:53
they'll
31:53
give
31:53
it
31:54
out
31:54
as
31:54
for
31:54
free.
31:55
But
31:56
that's
31:56
as
31:56
far
31:56
as
31:57
it
31:57
goes.
31:57
What
31:57
I
31:58
did
31:58
is
31:58
created
31:59
a
31:59
bookmark
32:00
with
32:00
a
32:00
QR
32:00
code,
32:01
and
32:02
what
32:03
it
32:03
does
32:04
is
32:04
it
32:04
gives
32:04
you
32:05
a
32:05
free
32:06
audiobook.
32:06
So
32:07
my
32:07
middle
32:07
granddaughter
32:08
has
32:08
the
32:09
perfect
32:09
voice
32:09
for
32:10
Caboose,
32:10
as
32:11
Caboose
32:11
is
32:11
a
32:12
female
32:12
and
32:13
she
32:14
read
32:14
the
32:14
story.
32:15
You
32:15
get
32:15
the
32:15
audiobook
32:16
to
32:16
read
32:16
along
32:17
with
32:17
the
32:17
book.
32:18
The
32:18
other
32:18
thing
32:18
is,
32:19
my
32:19
oldest
32:19
granddaughter
32:20
is
32:21
the
32:21
inspiration
32:21
behind
32:22
Caboose,
32:24
and
32:24
she
32:25
tells
32:25
the
32:26
story
32:26
behind
32:26
the
32:26
story.
32:27
So
32:27
when
32:28
we
32:28
give
32:28
these
32:28
out
32:29
to
32:29
encourage
32:30
people
32:30
to
32:31
purchase
32:31
our
32:31
book
32:32
or
32:32
they
32:33
purchased
32:33
our
32:33
book,
32:34
they
32:34
not
32:34
only
32:35
get
32:35
the
32:35
audio
32:35
story,
32:36
but
32:36
they
32:36
actually
32:37
get
32:37
the
32:37
story
32:37
behind
32:38
the
32:38
story.
32:38
Or
32:39
on
32:39
how
32:39
Caboose
32:40
came
32:40
to
32:40
life.
32:41
I
32:41
took
32:42
that
32:42
a
32:42
bit
32:42
farther.
32:43
This
32:43
is
32:43
my
32:43
business
32:44
card
32:45
and
32:45
there's
32:45
a
32:45
QR
32:46
code
32:46
on
32:46
the
32:47
front
32:47
of
32:47
it.
32:47
If
32:47
you
32:47
scan
32:48
that
32:48
QR
32:48
code,
32:49
it
32:49
takes
32:50
you
32:50
to
32:50
the
32:50
latest
32:50
episode
32:51
on
32:52
Adventures
32:52
in
32:53
the
32:53
Heart
32:53
of
32:53
Children's
32:54
Book
32:54
Authors
32:54
Podcast.
32:55
I
32:55
love
32:56
that.
32:56
So
32:56
to
32:56
everybody,
32:57
listen
32:58
to
32:58
what
32:58
Katie's
32:59
saying.
32:59
And
33:00
you
33:00
don't
33:01
have
33:01
to
33:02
think
33:03
because
33:03
you
33:03
just
33:03
published
33:04
your
33:04
book
33:05
and
33:05
you
33:05
don't
33:05
have
33:06
a
33:06
QR
33:06
code
33:07
in
33:07
there.
33:07
It
33:07
doesn't
33:08
mean
33:08
that
33:08
you
33:08
can't
33:09
go
33:09
back
33:10
and
33:10
modify
33:11
your
33:11
book
33:12
and
33:13
add
33:13
that,
33:14
as
33:14
Katie
33:14
called
33:15
it,
33:15
value
33:16
added.
33:17
Katie's
33:18
given
33:18
you
33:18
three
33:18
different
33:18
types
33:19
of
33:19
value
33:19
adds
33:20
because
33:20
she's
33:20
got
33:21
one
33:21
different
33:21
value
33:22
add
33:22
per
33:22
book.
33:23
So
33:23
that's
33:24
very
33:24
cool.
33:24
Yeah,
33:25
thank
33:25
you.
33:25
And
33:25
I'm
33:26
just
33:26
like
33:26
you.
33:26
I
33:26
put
33:27
those
33:27
QR
33:27
codes
33:29
everywhere
33:29
because
33:29
it's
33:30
one
33:30
thing
33:30
to
33:30
hand
33:30
out
33:30
a
33:31
card.
33:31
I
33:31
just
33:31
did
33:31
this
33:31
at
33:32
my
33:32
book
33:32
signing
33:32
when
33:32
I
33:33
designed
33:33
the
33:33
card.
33:34
It
33:34
feels
33:34
like
33:34
every
33:35
time
33:35
I
33:35
go
33:35
to
33:35
an
33:35
in
33:35
person
33:35
event,
33:36
I'm
33:36
not
33:36
happy
33:36
with
33:36
whatever
33:37
my
33:37
giveaway
33:37
was
33:38
before.
33:38
So
33:38
I
33:38
redesign
33:39
it.
33:39
I
33:39
do
33:39
it
33:39
all
33:39
over
33:39
again.
33:40
And
33:40
this
33:40
time
33:41
I
33:41
thought,
33:41
you
33:41
gotta
33:42
make
33:42
it
33:42
so
33:42
easy
33:43
for
33:43
people
33:43
these
33:43
days
33:44
or
33:44
they're
33:44
just
33:44
not
33:44
gonna
33:45
do
33:45
it
33:45
and
33:46
we're
33:46
all
33:46
the
33:46
same.
33:47
Instead
33:47
of
33:47
just
33:48
saying,
33:48
visit
33:48
my
33:48
website,
33:50
just
33:50
QR
33:50
code,
33:51
then
33:51
they'll
33:51
do
33:51
it
33:52
right
33:52
there
33:52
on
33:52
the
33:52
spot.
33:52
It's
33:53
interesting
33:53
you
33:53
should
33:54
say
33:54
that
33:54
because
33:54
again,
33:55
you
33:55
got
33:55
me
33:56
so
33:56
excited
33:56
with
33:56
these
33:56
QR
33:57
codes.
33:57
One
33:58
of
33:58
the
33:58
children's
33:58
book
33:59
authors,
33:59
Catherine
33:59
Clark,
34:00
felt
34:00
episode
34:01
75,
34:01
that
34:01
was
34:02
on
34:02
our
34:02
show.
34:03
She
34:03
said,
34:04
rick,
34:04
I'm
34:04
going
34:05
to
34:05
the
34:05
Williamburg
34:06
Book
34:06
Festival
34:07
for
34:07
children's
34:08
book
34:08
authors.
34:08
And
34:09
I
34:09
have
34:09
a
34:09
booth
34:10
there.
34:10
And
34:11
it's
34:11
probably
34:11
before
34:12
you're
34:12
going
34:12
to
34:12
actually
34:13
release
34:13
my
34:14
episode.
34:14
And
34:14
I
34:14
said,
34:15
you
34:15
know
34:15
what?
34:15
I
34:15
can
34:16
work
34:16
with
34:16
you.
34:17
Tell
34:17
me
34:17
when
34:18
your
34:18
book
34:18
event
34:19
is,
34:19
and
34:20
what
34:20
we'll
34:20
do
34:20
is
34:20
we'll
34:20
work
34:21
together
34:21
and
34:22
I'll
34:22
release
34:22
it
34:23
earlier
34:24
and
34:25
you
34:25
can
34:25
tie
34:25
it
34:25
in
34:26
to
34:26
the
34:26
podcast
34:27
show.
34:27
So
34:28
what
34:28
she
34:28
did
34:28
is
34:28
she
34:29
was
34:29
appreciative.
34:30
She
34:30
made
34:30
up
34:31
signage
34:31
with
34:32
a
34:32
QR
34:32
code.
34:33
And
34:33
the
34:33
moment
34:34
you
34:34
come
34:34
to
34:34
her
34:34
booth
34:35
when
34:35
she's
34:36
talking
34:36
to
34:36
you
34:36
about
34:36
her
34:36
book,
34:37
she
34:37
said,
34:37
if
34:37
you'd
34:38
like
34:38
to
34:38
find
34:38
out
34:38
more
34:39
about
34:39
me
34:39
as
34:39
a
34:40
children's
34:40
book
34:40
author,
34:41
just
34:41
scan
34:41
the
34:41
QR
34:42
code
34:42
and
34:42
listen
34:43
to
34:43
me
34:43
on
34:44
the
34:44
Adventures
34:44
in
34:44
the
34:44
Heart
34:45
of
34:45
Children's
34:46
Book
34:46
Authors
34:46
Podcast.
34:47
And
34:48
she
34:48
just
34:48
sent
34:48
me
34:49
a
34:49
picture
34:50
of
34:50
her
34:51
in
34:51
action
34:52
because
34:52
it
34:52
just
34:52
ran
34:53
this
34:53
weekend.
34:53
And
34:54
I
34:54
thought,
34:54
wow.
34:55
Like,
34:56
that's
34:56
the
34:56
power
34:57
of
34:57
using
34:57
QR
34:58
codes,
34:58
is
34:59
you
34:59
can
34:59
modify
35:00
it
35:00
and
35:00
use
35:00
them
35:01
in
35:01
so
35:01
many
35:01
different
35:02
ways.
35:03
Yep.
35:03
I
35:03
love
35:03
that.
35:04
So
35:05
tell
35:05
us.
35:05
I'm
35:05
curious,
35:06
because
35:06
we've
35:07
talked
35:07
about
35:07
indie
35:08
publishing,
35:09
and
35:10
so
35:10
when
35:10
it
35:10
came
35:10
to
35:10
publishing
35:11
your
35:11
children's
35:12
books,
35:13
what
35:13
was
35:14
the
35:15
biggest
35:15
challenge?
35:16
Maybe
35:16
think
35:16
back
35:16
to
35:17
the
35:17
first
35:17
one.
35:18
And
35:19
what
35:19
has
35:19
changed
35:20
now
35:21
that
35:21
you've
35:21
launched
35:22
your
35:22
third
35:22
book?
35:24
Great
35:24
question.
35:25
For
35:26
my
35:26
first
35:26
book,
35:27
the
35:27
greatest
35:27
challenge
35:28
was
35:29
illustrating.
35:30
Because
35:31
I
35:31
wrote
35:31
that
35:32
first
35:32
book
35:32
in
35:32
no
35:33
time,
35:33
and
35:33
I
35:34
liked
35:34
it,
35:34
and
35:34
I
35:35
put
35:35
it
35:35
through
35:35
an
35:35
editor
35:36
and
35:36
all
35:36
that
35:36
stuff,
35:36
and
35:37
it
35:37
was
35:37
good
35:37
to
35:37
go.
35:38
And
35:39
then
35:39
my
35:39
original
35:40
plan
35:40
was
35:40
just
35:40
to
35:40
hand
35:41
that
35:41
script
35:42
off
35:42
to
35:43
an
35:44
illustrator,
35:44
because
35:45
I
35:45
wasn't
35:45
an
35:45
illustrator.
35:46
I
35:46
was
35:46
a
35:46
writer.
35:47
So
35:47
I
35:47
was
35:47
going
35:48
to
35:48
hand
35:48
that
35:48
off
35:48
to
35:48
an
35:48
illustrator
35:49
and
35:49
have
35:49
them
35:49
illustrate
35:50
it.
35:50
And
35:50
that
35:50
was
35:50
going
35:50
to
35:50
be
35:50
my
35:51
whole
35:51
process.
35:52
And
35:52
then
35:52
this
35:53
idea
35:53
came
35:53
to
35:54
my
35:54
mind
35:54
as
35:54
I'm
35:54
reading
35:55
through
35:55
this
35:55
story
35:56
and
35:56
this
35:56
manuscript,
35:57
and
35:57
I'm
35:57
thinking,
35:58
what
35:59
if
36:00
on
36:01
the
36:01
front
36:01
cover,
36:02
it
36:02
could
36:02
say,
36:03
written
36:03
and
36:04
illustrated
36:05
by
36:05
Katie
36:05
Cooperman,
36:06
not
36:06
just
36:06
written
36:07
by
36:07
Katie
36:07
Cooperman.
36:08
Because
36:09
I
36:09
do
36:09
come
36:10
from
36:11
an
36:11
artistic
36:11
background.
36:12
I'm
36:12
a
36:12
very
36:12
creative
36:13
person.
36:13
When
36:13
I
36:14
was
36:14
a
36:14
kid,
36:14
I
36:14
drew
36:15
a
36:15
lot,
36:16
and
36:16
I
36:16
did
36:17
go
36:17
to
36:17
art
36:17
classes.
36:18
And,
36:19
you
36:19
know,
36:19
I
36:19
wasn't
36:20
coming
36:20
from
36:20
zero.
36:21
And
36:22
especially
36:22
with
36:22
my
36:22
kids,
36:23
when
36:23
they
36:23
were
36:23
small,
36:23
we
36:23
used
36:23
to
36:24
draw
36:24
together,
36:24
and
36:25
I
36:25
would
36:25
constantly
36:26
draw
36:26
freehand,
36:27
their
36:27
favorite
36:27
characters,
36:28
Paw
36:28
Patrol
36:29
or
36:29
Spider
36:29
man
36:30
or
36:30
these
36:30
things.
36:31
And
36:32
my
36:32
kids
36:33
and
36:33
even
36:33
my
36:33
husband
36:34
always
36:34
say,
36:34
that's
36:35
actually
36:35
really
36:35
good.
36:36
And
36:36
I
36:36
just
36:37
had
36:37
fun
36:37
with
36:37
it.
36:38
And
36:38
then
36:38
I
36:38
thought
36:39
maybe
36:39
I
36:39
actually
36:40
could
36:40
do
36:40
this.
36:40
So
36:41
I
36:41
started
36:41
researching
36:42
like
36:42
crazy
36:43
how.
36:43
Because
36:43
I
36:44
really
36:44
wanted
36:45
to
36:45
be
36:45
able
36:45
to
36:45
do
36:46
a
36:46
hand
36:47
drawing
36:47
first,
36:48
because
36:48
my
36:48
favorite
36:49
part
36:49
is
36:49
the
36:50
sketch.
36:50
I
36:51
want
36:51
to
36:51
do
36:51
the
36:52
by
36:52
hand
36:52
first
36:52
and
36:53
then
36:53
somehow
36:53
digitize
36:54
it.
36:55
I
36:55
did
36:55
eventually
36:56
teach
36:56
myself
36:56
how
36:56
to
36:57
do
36:57
that,
36:57
but
36:57
it
36:57
was
36:57
a
36:57
lot
36:57
of
36:57
trial
36:58
and
36:58
error.
36:58
I
36:58
didn't
36:59
understand
36:59
why.
37:00
Why
37:00
does
37:00
this
37:01
digitization
37:02
not
37:02
look
37:02
the
37:02
way
37:02
it's
37:03
supposed
37:03
to
37:03
look
37:03
in
37:03
my
37:03
head?
37:04
Because
37:04
I
37:04
didn't
37:04
understand
37:05
the
37:05
process.
37:06
And
37:06
so
37:07
that
37:07
was
37:07
my
37:07
biggest
37:08
challenge,
37:08
was
37:09
learning
37:10
which
37:10
programs
37:11
to
37:11
use,
37:12
how
37:12
to
37:12
use
37:13
them
37:13
to
37:13
make
37:13
it
37:14
look
37:14
like
37:15
it
37:15
looked
37:15
in
37:15
my
37:16
head
37:17
on
37:17
paper.
37:18
And
37:19
it
37:19
took
37:19
me
37:19
a
37:19
long
37:20
time.
37:21
I
37:21
eventually
37:21
got
37:21
in
37:22
a
37:22
groove,
37:23
but
37:24
that
37:24
was
37:24
challenge
37:25
one
37:25
for
37:25
book.
37:26
For
37:26
book.
37:26
And
37:26
then
37:27
I
37:27
noticed
37:28
when
37:28
I
37:29
went
37:29
to
37:29
do
37:29
my
37:30
second
37:30
book,
37:31
I
37:32
was
37:32
so
37:32
much
37:32
faster
37:33
at
37:33
illustrating
37:34
because
37:34
I
37:34
had
37:34
the
37:34
process.
37:35
And
37:35
it
37:35
was
37:35
no
37:36
longer
37:36
a
37:37
daunting
37:37
task
37:38
because
37:38
now
37:39
I
37:39
knew
37:39
what
37:39
I
37:39
was
37:39
doing.
37:40
And
37:40
so
37:40
that
37:40
part
37:41
went
37:41
by
37:41
so
37:41
much
37:42
faster.
37:43
And
37:43
I
37:43
think
37:43
from
37:44
book
37:44
one
37:44
to
37:45
book
37:45
three,
37:45
biggest
37:46
challenge
37:46
for
37:46
book
37:47
three,
37:48
sometimes
37:49
it's
37:49
just
37:49
about
37:49
carving
37:50
out
37:50
that
37:50
time.
37:51
Because
37:51
when
37:51
it
37:51
comes
37:52
to
37:52
illustrating,
37:54
because
37:54
I
37:54
write
37:54
the
37:54
books
37:55
very
37:55
fast,
37:56
but
37:56
the
37:56
illustrating,
37:57
it's
37:57
like
37:57
I
37:58
have
37:58
to
37:59
create
38:00
goals
38:00
and
38:01
stay
38:01
on
38:01
track
38:02
and
38:03
that
38:03
helps
38:03
me
38:03
tremendously.
38:04
So
38:04
I
38:04
think
38:05
a
38:05
lot
38:05
of
38:05
it,
38:06
the
38:06
battle
38:06
is
38:07
the
38:07
time.
38:08
But
38:08
you
38:08
always
38:08
forget
38:09
about
38:09
all
38:09
the
38:10
little
38:10
things
38:10
you
38:10
have
38:10
to
38:10
do.
38:10
Don't
38:11
forget
38:11
about
38:11
your
38:11
ISBN,
38:12
don't
38:13
forget
38:13
about
38:13
your
38:13
copyright
38:14
page,
38:14
don't
38:14
forget
38:14
about
38:14
your
38:15
dedication
38:15
message.
38:16
Don't
38:16
forget
38:16
about.
38:16
It's
38:17
all
38:17
these
38:17
things.
38:18
And
38:18
then
38:18
if
38:18
you've
38:18
got
38:18
the
38:19
final
38:19
files,
38:19
and
38:20
then
38:20
you
38:20
have
38:20
to
38:20
worry
38:20
about
38:21
all
38:21
the
38:21
things
38:22
inputting
38:23
into
38:23
wherever
38:23
you're
38:23
publishing.
38:24
Right.
38:24
Whether
38:24
it's
38:24
KDP
38:25
and
38:25
ingramspark,
38:26
you
38:26
need
38:26
descriptions
38:27
now.
38:27
You
38:27
need
38:28
to
38:28
worry
38:28
about
38:28
keywords
38:28
and
38:29
categorization
38:29
and
38:30
all
38:30
these
38:30
things
38:30
matter.
38:31
So
38:31
it
38:31
is
38:32
a
38:32
big
38:32
process.
38:33
I
38:33
think
38:33
you
38:34
get
38:34
better
38:34
and
38:34
better
38:34
at
38:34
it
38:35
as
38:35
you
38:35
go.
38:36
But
38:36
my
38:36
biggest
38:37
thing
38:37
that
38:37
helps
38:38
me,
38:38
and
38:38
I
38:38
hope
38:38
this
38:38
helps
38:39
someone
38:39
watching
38:39
this
38:39
show,
38:40
if
38:41
you
38:41
state
38:41
your
38:42
goal
38:43
out
38:43
loud,
38:44
even
38:44
if
38:44
it's
38:44
just
38:44
to
38:45
yourself,
38:46
it
38:46
always
38:46
works.
38:48
So
38:48
it
38:48
was
38:48
already
38:49
September
38:49
of
38:50
2025,
38:50
and
38:51
I'm
38:51
thinking,
38:52
oh,
38:52
my
38:52
goodness,
38:53
I
38:53
gotta
38:53
get
38:53
going.
38:53
I
38:53
hadn't
38:54
illustrated
38:54
anything
38:54
yet.
38:55
And
38:55
I
38:55
said,
38:56
by
38:56
the
38:57
second
38:57
last
38:57
week
38:57
of
38:57
November,
38:58
I've
38:59
gotta
38:59
be
38:59
published.
39:00
And
39:00
I
39:00
just.
39:00
That's
39:00
what
39:01
I
39:01
said.
39:01
And
39:02
then
39:02
it
39:02
was
39:02
just
39:03
go
39:04
until
39:04
then.
39:04
And
39:04
I
39:04
did
39:04
it.
39:05
I
39:05
published,
39:05
I
39:05
think,
39:05
even
39:05
a
39:06
week
39:06
or
39:06
two
39:06
before
39:06
that.
39:07
So
39:07
it
39:07
really
39:08
works
39:08
when
39:08
you
39:09
crystallize
39:10
those
39:10
goals
39:11
and
39:11
make
39:11
them
39:11
real
39:12
and
39:12
make
39:12
them
39:13
sound
39:13
real
39:13
to
39:13
yourself
39:14
or
39:14
other
39:14
people,
39:15
it
39:15
really
39:15
does
39:15
work.
39:16
It
39:16
helps
39:16
you
39:16
stay
39:16
on
39:16
track.
39:17
And
39:17
drawing
39:18
from
39:18
your
39:19
first
39:19
book
39:20
to
39:20
your
39:20
second
39:20
to
39:21
your
39:21
third,
39:22
you
39:22
get
39:22
more
39:22
comfortable
39:24
in
39:24
your
39:25
skill
39:25
level.
39:27
Absolutely,
39:27
you
39:27
do.
39:28
And
39:28
what
39:28
also
39:29
helps,
39:29
I
39:30
find,
39:30
because
39:30
I'm
39:30
still
39:31
with
39:31
spokes
39:32
sometimes
39:32
I
39:32
think,
39:33
and
39:33
even
39:33
my
39:33
kids
39:34
said
39:34
to
39:34
me,
39:34
why
39:35
don't
39:35
you
39:35
pull
39:35
in
39:36
a
39:36
little
39:36
illustration
39:37
or
39:37
a
39:37
background
39:37
from
39:37
one
39:38
of
39:38
the
39:38
other
39:38
books
39:38
into
39:38
the
39:39
most
39:39
recent
39:39
book?
39:39
Because
39:39
that
39:40
could
39:40
be
39:40
so
39:40
cool.
39:41
And
39:41
so
39:41
sometimes
39:42
I
39:42
do
39:42
find
39:43
an
39:43
opportunity
39:43
to
39:43
do
39:43
that.
39:44
And
39:44
I
39:44
that
39:44
too.
39:44
They
39:44
all.
39:45
If
39:45
you're
39:45
paying
39:45
attention,
39:46
you'll
39:46
be
39:46
saying,
39:47
oh,
39:47
that's
39:47
the
39:47
clock
39:48
from
39:48
book
39:48
one.
39:49
I
39:49
remember
39:49
that.
39:50
Yeah.
39:50
And
39:50
makes
39:51
it
39:51
a
39:51
cool
39:51
and
39:52
cohesive
39:52
experience
39:53
from
39:53
start
39:53
to
39:53
finish.
39:54
But
39:54
also,
39:55
that
39:55
saves
39:55
me
39:56
time,
39:56
because
39:56
if
39:56
I
39:57
like
39:57
that
39:58
and
39:58
then
39:58
I
39:58
just
39:58
zoom
39:58
it
39:58
in
39:59
a
39:59
little
39:59
more,
39:59
make
39:59
it
40:00
a
40:00
little
40:00
bit
40:00
different,
40:01
it
40:01
saves
40:01
time
40:02
as
40:02
well.
40:02
And
40:02
you're
40:02
also
40:03
tying
40:03
the
40:03
whole
40:04
experience
40:04
altogether.
40:06
Fantastic.
40:06
I
40:07
appreciate
40:07
that.
40:07
And
40:08
you
40:08
know
40:08
what?
40:08
Everybody's
40:09
got
40:09
their
40:09
own
40:10
ideas,
40:10
because
40:11
my
40:11
youngest
40:11
granddaughter,
40:12
whose
40:12
name
40:13
is
40:13
Katie,
40:13
by
40:13
the
40:13
way.
40:14
Oh,
40:14
nice.
40:15
And
40:15
she
40:16
loves
40:16
to
40:16
draw.
40:17
When
40:17
we
40:17
first
40:18
published
40:18
our
40:18
first
40:18
book,
40:19
we
40:19
added
40:20
activity
40:20
pages,
40:21
because
40:21
the
40:22
whole
40:22
premise
40:22
of
40:23
how
40:23
our
40:23
first
40:23
children's
40:24
book
40:24
is,
40:24
my
40:25
granddaughter
40:25
and
40:25
I
40:26
went
40:26
and
40:27
we
40:27
sat
40:27
down
40:28
and
40:28
we
40:28
wrote
40:28
a
40:28
story,
40:29
and
40:30
then
40:30
we
40:30
etched
40:30
it
40:31
out,
40:31
each
40:32
page,
40:33
and
40:33
we
40:34
added
40:34
these
40:34
activity
40:35
pages.
40:36
In
40:36
our
40:36
first
40:36
book,
40:37
where
40:37
you
40:37
had
40:38
pages
40:38
to
40:39
write
40:39
and
40:40
pages
40:40
to
40:40
draw
40:41
your
40:41
story,
40:42
we
40:42
encouraged
40:42
you,
40:43
as
40:43
a
40:43
child
40:44
and
40:44
a
40:44
family
40:45
member,
40:45
whether
40:45
it's
40:45
a
40:46
parent
40:46
or
40:46
grandparent,
40:47
to
40:47
do
40:47
the
40:47
same
40:47
thing.
40:48
And
40:48
then
40:49
my
40:49
youngest
40:50
granddaughter,
40:50
Katie,
40:51
show
40:52
people
40:52
how
40:52
they
40:52
can
40:53
take
40:53
their
40:53
plushie.
40:54
And
40:54
that,
40:54
because
40:55
that's
40:55
what
40:55
we
40:55
did.
40:55
We
40:56
had
40:56
a
40:56
plushie,
40:56
and
40:57
then
40:57
we
40:57
turned
40:57
the
40:57
plushie
40:58
into
40:59
our
40:59
main
40:59
character.
41:00
And
41:00
so
41:01
Katie,
41:01
in
41:02
our
41:02
second
41:03
book,
41:03
she
41:04
showed
41:04
people
41:05
four
41:05
stages
41:06
on
41:06
how
41:07
to
41:07
create
41:07
a
41:07
hero
41:08
out
41:08
of
41:08
their
41:09
plushie.
41:10
And
41:10
so
41:10
we
41:10
added
41:11
that
41:11
in.
41:12
Yeah.
41:12
That
41:12
is
41:13
so
41:13
cool.
41:13
So
41:14
it
41:14
was
41:14
definitely
41:15
fun.
41:15
The
41:16
thing
41:16
about
41:16
being
41:17
an
41:17
illustrator,
41:17
and
41:18
you're
41:18
a
41:18
very
41:18
good
41:18
illustrator,
41:19
I
41:19
love
41:19
what
41:20
you've
41:20
done,
41:21
is
41:22
now
41:23
that
41:23
you're
41:23
doing
41:23
coaching
41:24
with
41:25
someone
41:25
to
41:25
publish
41:26
a
41:26
children's
41:26
book,
41:27
are
41:27
you
41:27
thinking
41:28
of
41:28
doing
41:29
any
41:29
illustrating
41:30
for
41:30
others
41:30
also?
41:32
That's
41:32
really
41:32
not
41:33
part
41:33
of
41:33
my
41:33
plan.
41:34
Okay.
41:34
And
41:34
if
41:35
someone
41:35
said
41:35
to
41:35
me,
41:35
I
41:36
love
41:36
your
41:36
style,
41:37
and
41:37
they
41:37
liked
41:38
exactly
41:38
the
41:39
way
41:39
that
41:39
I
41:39
did
41:40
the
41:40
illustrations
41:41
for
41:41
these
41:41
books,
41:42
yes,
41:42
I
41:42
would
41:43
absolutely
41:43
be
41:43
open
41:43
to
41:44
that.
41:44
But
41:45
I
41:45
think
41:46
what
41:46
people
41:46
need
41:46
to
41:46
understand
41:47
is
41:47
I'm
41:47
still
41:48
very
41:48
much
41:48
a
41:49
newbie
41:49
in
41:49
that
41:49
space.
41:50
And
41:50
so
41:51
if
41:51
they
41:51
don't
41:51
like
41:51
that
41:52
style,
41:52
because
41:53
it's
41:53
a
41:53
very
41:53
specific
41:54
style,
41:54
it's
41:54
a
41:54
hand
41:55
sketch,
41:56
and
41:56
then
41:56
I'm
41:56
ink
41:57
lining
41:58
that
41:58
sketch
41:59
by
41:59
hand,
42:00
and
42:00
that's
42:00
what
42:01
becomes
42:01
the
42:01
vector
42:01
image
42:02
onto
42:02
the
42:02
computer.
42:02
So
42:03
you
42:03
have
42:03
these
42:03
tight
42:04
black
42:04
outlines,
42:05
and
42:05
then
42:05
we
42:06
color
42:06
it
42:06
on
42:06
the
42:06
computer
42:07
however
42:07
you
42:07
like.
42:07
So
42:08
it's
42:08
a
42:08
very
42:08
specific
42:09
look.
42:09
And
42:10
if
42:10
someone
42:10
isn't
42:10
looking
42:11
for
42:11
that
42:11
look,
42:12
I'm
42:12
really
42:13
not
42:13
your
42:13
gal.
42:13
I
42:14
totally
42:14
understand
42:14
what
42:15
you're
42:15
saying.
42:15
We've
42:15
published
42:16
two
42:16
books
42:17
in
42:17
our
42:17
series
42:17
so
42:17
far,
42:18
but
42:18
my
42:18
oldest
42:19
granddaughter
42:19
and
42:20
my
42:20
other
42:20
four
42:20
grandchildren,
42:21
we've
42:21
actually
42:22
written
42:22
38
42:23
stories
42:23
in
42:23
our
42:24
book
42:24
series.
42:25
Now,
42:25
we
42:26
got
42:26
to
42:26
hit
42:26
the
42:26
jackpot
42:27
to
42:27
be
42:27
able
42:28
to
42:28
ever
42:28
bring
42:28
them
42:28
all
42:29
to
42:29
life.
42:30
However,
42:31
we
42:31
use
42:31
the
42:31
same
42:32
so
42:32
far
42:32
we've
42:33
used
42:33
the
42:33
same
42:34
illustrator
42:35
who
42:35
happens
42:35
to
42:36
be
42:36
out
42:36
of
42:36
the
42:36
uk,
42:36
but
42:37
we
42:37
like
42:37
it
42:37
because
42:38
he
42:39
gets
42:39
what
42:39
we're
42:40
trying
42:40
to
42:40
convey.
42:41
Like
42:41
you
42:41
said,
42:42
there's
42:42
a
42:42
certain
42:42
style
42:44
that
42:44
you're
42:44
trying
42:44
to
42:45
capture
42:45
and
42:46
you
42:47
visualize
42:47
it
42:48
in
42:48
your
42:48
mind
42:48
and
42:49
how
42:49
do
42:49
you
42:49
get
42:50
that
42:50
to
42:50
come
42:50
to
42:50
life?
42:52
Exactly.
42:52
Thank
42:53
you.
42:53
Your
42:54
website.
42:54
I
42:54
want
42:54
to
42:55
talk
42:55
to
42:55
you
42:55
about
42:55
your
42:55
website.
42:56
You
42:56
have
42:56
a
42:57
great
42:57
website.
42:58
Thanks.
42:58
Talk
42:59
to
42:59
us
42:59
about.
43:00
And
43:00
I
43:01
love
43:01
your
43:01
slogan,
43:01
by
43:02
the
43:02
way.
43:03
Feel,
43:03
learn,
43:04
do.
43:05
Talk
43:05
to
43:05
us
43:05
about
43:06
Feel,
43:07
learn,
43:07
do.
43:07
What
43:08
is
43:08
that
43:08
all
43:08
about?
43:09
Thank
43:09
you
43:09
so
43:09
much.
43:10
I
43:11
have
43:11
changed
43:11
that
43:11
so
43:12
many
43:12
times
43:12
on
43:12
the
43:12
front
43:12
page
43:13
of
43:13
my
43:13
website.
43:14
It's
43:14
a
43:14
statement
43:15
I
43:15
came
43:15
up
43:15
with
43:15
for
43:16
my
43:16
very
43:16
first
43:16
bio
43:17
that
43:17
I
43:17
ever
43:17
wrote
43:18
for
43:18
the
43:18
back
43:19
of
43:19
my
43:20
young
43:20
adult
43:21
novel
43:21
about
43:22
bullying
43:22
and
43:22
mental
43:23
health.
43:23
Because
43:24
I
43:25
was
43:25
trying
43:25
to
43:25
figure
43:26
out
43:26
back
43:26
then,
43:27
what
43:27
am
43:27
I
43:27
going
43:27
to
43:27
write
43:27
on
43:28
this
43:28
bio
43:28
that's
43:28
going
43:29
to
43:29
set
43:29
me
43:29
apart
43:29
a
43:30
little
43:30
bit
43:30
or
43:30
say
43:30
something
43:31
unique
43:31
that
43:31
is
43:32
going
43:32
to
43:32
stick
43:32
in
43:32
people's
43:33
heads.
43:34
And
43:34
then
43:35
I
43:35
dug
43:35
a
43:35
little
43:35
deeper.
43:36
What
43:36
am
43:36
I
43:36
really
43:36
trying
43:37
to
43:37
do
43:38
through
43:38
everything
43:39
that
43:39
I
43:39
write?
43:40
Why
43:40
am
43:40
I
43:40
writing?
43:41
And
43:42
I
43:42
am
43:42
a
43:43
huge
43:43
believer
43:44
that
43:44
we
43:44
are
43:45
driven
43:45
by
43:46
our
43:46
emotions.
43:47
We
43:47
are
43:47
driven
43:47
by
43:48
our
43:48
feelings.
43:48
Whether
43:48
we
43:49
choose
43:49
to
43:49
admit
43:49
that
43:50
or
43:50
not,
43:50
it's
43:50
true.
43:51
In
43:52
business,
43:52
in
43:53
personal
43:53
life,
43:53
in
43:54
professional
43:54
life,
43:54
in
43:55
day
43:55
to
43:55
day,
43:56
we
43:56
are
43:56
driven
43:57
by
43:57
our
43:58
emotion.
43:59
And
43:59
I
44:00
love
44:00
the
44:00
challenge
44:01
of
44:01
trying
44:01
to
44:02
make
44:02
people
44:03
really
44:03
feel
44:04
something
44:05
if
44:05
they
44:05
read
44:05
just
44:06
one
44:06
sentence
44:07
or
44:07
one
44:08
paragraph
44:08
or
44:08
one
44:09
whole
44:09
book.
44:10
I
44:10
want
44:10
to
44:11
make
44:11
people
44:11
feel
44:12
something.
44:13
And
44:13
then
44:13
what?
44:14
Okay,
44:14
so
44:14
now
44:14
I
44:15
felt
44:15
something
44:16
because
44:16
you
44:16
felt
44:17
something.
44:18
Maybe
44:18
that
44:19
will
44:19
make
44:19
you
44:19
want
44:20
to
44:21
learn
44:22
something
44:22
from
44:22
that
44:22
feeling.
44:23
So
44:23
why
44:23
did
44:24
you
44:24
feel
44:24
so
44:24
deeply
44:25
about
44:25
this
44:26
book
44:26
I
44:26
wrote
44:27
or
44:27
this
44:28
post
44:29
I
44:29
wrote
44:29
about
44:29
or
44:30
anything?
44:31
What
44:31
did
44:31
you
44:31
learn?
44:32
And
44:32
do
44:32
you
44:32
wanna
44:33
learn
44:33
further?
44:34
So
44:34
why
44:34
did
44:35
you
44:35
feel
44:35
that
44:35
way?
44:36
And
44:37
then
44:37
what
44:37
can
44:37
we
44:38
learn
44:38
from
44:38
those
44:38
feelings?
44:40
And
44:40
then
44:40
from
44:40
there.
44:41
Now
44:41
if
44:41
I've
44:42
felt
44:42
something
44:43
deeply
44:44
and
44:44
I've
44:44
learned
44:45
something,
44:45
there's
44:46
no
44:46
point
44:46
in
44:46
learning
44:46
if
44:47
I'm
44:47
not
44:47
going
44:47
to
44:47
make
44:47
some
44:48
kind
44:48
of
44:48
positive
44:49
action
44:49
after
44:50
that
44:50
or
44:51
any
44:51
kind
44:51
of
44:51
action
44:52
to
44:52
bring
44:52
that
44:53
forward
44:53
into
44:53
my
44:53
life.
44:54
And
44:54
so
44:55
that's
44:55
the
44:55
do,
44:55
that's
44:56
the
44:56
act
44:57
I
44:57
always
44:57
try.
44:58
And
44:59
I
44:59
remember
44:59
someone
45:00
saying
45:00
to
45:00
me
45:00
after
45:01
they
45:01
read
45:01
that
45:01
novel,
45:02
they
45:02
said,
45:03
you
45:03
really
45:04
did
45:04
make
45:04
me
45:05
feel,
45:05
learn
45:05
and
45:06
want
45:06
to
45:06
do,
45:07
want
45:07
to
45:07
have
45:07
the
45:08
positive
45:08
action.
45:08
And
45:09
the
45:09
message
45:09
in
45:09
that
45:09
book
45:09
is
45:10
really
45:10
about
45:11
the
45:11
importance
45:11
of
45:11
talking
45:11
openly
45:12
and
45:12
speaking
45:12
up.
45:13
I
45:14
remembered
45:15
that
45:15
person
45:15
saying
45:16
that
45:16
to
45:16
me
45:16
and
45:16
it
45:16
meant
45:17
the
45:17
world
45:17
to
45:17
me.
45:17
That
45:17
they
45:17
said
45:18
that.
45:18
And
45:19
so
45:19
when
45:19
I
45:19
was
45:20
late,
45:20
my
45:21
late
45:21
latest
45:21
redesign
45:22
of
45:22
the
45:22
website
45:22
and
45:23
trying
45:23
to
45:23
refigure
45:24
this
45:24
main
45:25
home
45:25
hero
45:26
image
45:26
and
45:26
banner
45:26
and
45:27
what
45:27
do
45:27
I
45:27
want
45:27
to
45:27
convey
45:28
right
45:28
away?
45:29
And
45:29
the
45:29
same
45:29
thing
45:29
even
45:30
goes,
45:30
if
45:30
I
45:30
really
45:31
think
45:31
about
45:31
it,
45:32
that
45:32
statement
45:34
defines
45:34
what
45:34
I'm
45:35
trying
45:35
to
45:35
do
45:35
in
45:35
every
45:36
facetime
45:37
of
45:37
my
45:37
professional
45:38
life.
45:39
So
45:39
even
45:39
when
45:39
I'm
45:40
coaching
45:40
someone,
45:41
I
45:41
want
45:41
to
45:41
make
45:41
you
45:42
feel
45:42
comfortable.
45:43
I
45:43
want
45:43
to
45:43
make
45:43
you
45:43
feel
45:44
motivated.
45:44
I
45:44
want
45:44
to
45:45
make
45:45
you
45:45
feel
45:45
capable
45:46
of
45:46
doing
45:46
this,
45:46
because
45:46
you
45:47
are.
45:47
And
45:48
then
45:48
I
45:48
want
45:48
you
45:49
learn
45:49
all
45:49
the
45:50
nitty
45:50
gritty
45:50
tools
45:50
that
45:51
you
45:51
need
45:51
to
45:51
bring
45:51
this
45:51
forward.
45:52
And
45:52
then
45:52
I
45:52
want
45:52
you
45:53
to
45:53
do
45:53
it
45:53
and
45:54
feel
45:54
amazing
45:54
and
45:55
achieve
45:55
that
45:55
goal.
45:56
One
45:56
of
45:56
my
45:56
favorite
45:57
sayings,
45:58
because
45:58
it
45:59
helped
45:59
me
45:59
back
45:59
for
46:00
a
46:00
long
46:00
time,
46:01
was
46:01
this
46:01
idea
46:02
of
46:02
perfection.
46:03
Now,
46:03
what
46:03
I
46:03
say
46:04
to
46:04
people
46:04
is
46:05
done
46:06
is
46:06
better
46:06
than
46:07
perfect.
46:08
And
46:08
you
46:08
and
46:08
I
46:09
talked
46:09
about
46:09
this
46:10
earlier
46:10
about,
46:11
okay,
46:12
you
46:12
can
46:12
make
46:13
changes
46:14
later.
46:14
It's
46:15
not
46:15
your
46:15
children's
46:16
book
46:16
or
46:17
your
46:17
book
46:17
is
46:18
not
46:18
anything
46:19
you
46:19
do
46:19
is
46:20
not
46:20
etched
46:20
in
46:20
stone.
46:21
You
46:21
can
46:22
go
46:22
back
46:22
and
46:23
change
46:23
it.
46:24
It's
46:24
important
46:25
that
46:25
as
46:25
an
46:26
aspiring
46:26
children's
46:27
book
46:27
author
46:27
who
46:27
wants
46:28
to
46:28
be
46:28
published,
46:29
remember
46:29
one
46:29
thing.
46:30
Done
46:30
is
46:31
better
46:31
than
46:31
perfect.
46:32
Like
46:32
Katie's
46:33
been
46:33
talking
46:33
about,
46:34
like
46:34
I've
46:34
been
46:34
talking
46:35
about.
46:35
You
46:35
can
46:35
go
46:36
back
46:36
and
46:36
make
46:36
additions,
46:37
value,
46:37
add,
46:38
whatever
46:38
you
46:39
want
46:39
to
46:39
do
46:39
later.
46:40
It's
46:40
not
46:41
that
46:41
difficult.
46:42
I
46:42
love
46:42
that
46:43
you
46:43
have
46:43
that
46:43
model.
46:44
There's
46:44
a
46:44
different
46:44
way
46:45
of
46:45
saying
46:45
it.
46:46
I
46:46
always
46:46
like
46:47
to
46:47
say
46:47
progress
46:47
over
46:48
perfection.
46:48
It's
46:49
the
46:49
exact
46:49
same
46:49
idea.
46:50
And
46:51
I
46:51
think
46:51
way,
46:51
way
46:52
too
46:52
many
46:52
of
46:52
us
46:52
get
46:53
caught
46:53
up
46:53
on
46:53
this
46:54
idea
46:54
of
46:54
perfectionism
46:56
and
46:56
type
46:56
A
46:56
personality.
46:58
And
46:59
to
46:59
be
46:59
honest,
46:59
I
47:00
used
47:00
to
47:00
be
47:00
a
47:01
lot
47:01
more
47:01
on
47:02
that
47:02
side
47:02
of
47:02
the
47:02
equation.
47:03
And
47:03
believe
47:04
it
47:04
or
47:04
not,
47:04
I
47:05
believe
47:05
it's
47:05
my
47:05
children
47:06
who
47:06
actually
47:07
taught
47:07
me
47:07
in
47:07
life
47:08
not
47:08
to
47:08
be
47:08
that
47:09
way.
47:09
Because
47:10
life
47:10
is
47:11
messy.
47:11
Life
47:11
is
47:12
imperfect.
47:12
Yes.
47:13
And
47:13
especially
47:13
when
47:13
you
47:14
have
47:14
kids
47:14
and
47:14
you
47:15
got
47:15
like,
47:15
dinner,
47:16
it's
47:16
not
47:17
going
47:17
to
47:17
look
47:17
perfect.
47:17
It's
47:18
just
47:18
got
47:18
to
47:18
get
47:18
cooked.
47:19
And
47:19
you
47:19
got
47:19
to
47:19
get
47:19
your
47:19
kids
47:20
fed
47:20
and
47:20
you
47:20
got
47:20
to
47:20
get
47:20
out
47:20
the
47:20
door
47:21
for
47:21
whatever
47:21
activity
47:22
is
47:22
coming
47:22
your
47:22
way.
47:23
Absolutely.
47:23
Even.
47:24
Even
47:24
when
47:24
there's
47:25
an
47:25
argument
47:26
or
47:26
a
47:26
fight,
47:26
that's
47:26
the
47:27
imperfection.
47:27
And
47:28
then
47:28
kids
47:29
are
47:29
so
47:29
beautiful
47:29
this
47:30
way.
47:30
They
47:30
just
47:30
boop.
47:31
Okay,
47:31
I'm
47:31
over
47:32
it.
47:32
Moving
47:32
on.
47:32
I'm
47:32
like,
47:33
oh,
47:33
my
47:33
gosh,
47:33
how
47:34
the
47:34
hell
47:34
out
47:34
of
47:34
this
47:34
so
47:35
fast?
47:35
I'm
47:35
still
47:35
way
47:35
over
47:35
here.
47:36
But
47:36
it's
47:37
a
47:37
great
47:37
lesson.
47:38
And
47:38
I've
47:39
seen
47:39
lots
47:40
and
47:40
lots
47:40
of
47:40
clients
47:41
and
47:41
friends
47:42
get
47:42
so
47:43
hung
47:43
up
47:43
on
47:43
this
47:44
perfectionism
47:45
and
47:45
I
47:45
always
47:45
like
47:45
to
47:46
say
47:46
when
47:46
even
47:46
my
47:46
kids
47:47
and
47:47
I
47:47
are
47:47
doing
47:47
something
47:47
or
47:48
whenever
47:48
I
47:48
say
47:48
okay,
47:49
it,
47:49
it
47:50
might
47:50
not
47:50
be
47:50
perfect,
47:50
but
47:50
what
47:51
is
47:51
it?
47:52
Good
47:52
enough
47:52
and
47:52
we're
47:53
moving
47:53
on.
47:54
Absolutely.
47:54
I
47:54
couldn't
47:55
agree
47:55
with
47:55
you
47:55
more.
47:56
Talk
47:56
to
47:56
us
47:56
about
47:57
how
47:57
you're
47:57
using
47:58
your
47:58
social
47:59
media
47:59
to
48:00
promote
48:00
your
48:00
books.
48:02
Yes.
48:03
So
48:03
I
48:03
will
48:04
be
48:04
very
48:04
honest.
48:04
I
48:05
hate
48:05
social
48:06
media.
48:07
I
48:07
can't
48:07
tell
48:08
from
48:08
your
48:08
videos.
48:10
I
48:10
promised
48:11
myself.
48:11
I
48:12
know
48:12
in
48:12
this
48:12
space
48:12
you
48:13
absolutely
48:14
have
48:14
to
48:14
be
48:14
on
48:14
it
48:15
and
48:15
I
48:15
agree
48:15
with
48:16
that.
48:16
But
48:17
I
48:17
don't
48:17
like
48:18
it.
48:18
I
48:18
think
48:18
there's
48:19
way
48:19
too
48:20
much
48:21
fake
48:22
and
48:22
now
48:22
with
48:23
AI
48:23
and
48:24
you
48:24
don't
48:24
know
48:24
what
48:24
you're
48:24
looking
48:25
at.
48:26
I
48:26
just
48:26
despise
48:27
the
48:27
fact
48:27
that
48:28
so
48:28
many
48:28
people
48:28
I
48:28
know
48:29
go
48:29
on
48:29
there
48:29
and
48:29
then
48:29
they're
48:30
comparing
48:30
themselves
48:31
and
48:31
they're
48:32
doom
48:32
scrolling
48:33
as
48:33
one
48:33
of
48:33
my
48:33
kids
48:34
calls
48:34
it
48:34
and
48:35
it's
48:35
so
48:35
unhealthy.
48:36
I
48:36
feel
48:37
however,
48:38
because
48:38
I
48:38
have
48:39
to
48:39
be
48:39
on
48:39
it
48:39
for
48:40
business
48:40
and
48:40
I
48:40
do
48:40
believe
48:41
that
48:41
I
48:41
do.
48:42
And
48:43
because
48:43
I've
48:43
noticed
48:44
what
48:45
kind
48:45
of
48:45
videos
48:45
I
48:46
really
48:46
appreciate
48:47
from
48:47
other
48:47
people
48:47
that
48:48
I
48:48
follow
48:49
and
48:49
because
48:50
I
48:50
need
48:50
to
48:50
be
48:50
true
48:51
to
48:51
my
48:51
personality
48:52
and
48:52
my
48:52
values
48:52
and
48:53
myself,
48:54
I
48:54
have
48:54
promised
48:55
that
48:55
whatever
48:56
is
48:56
going
48:56
on
48:56
there
48:57
is
48:57
unfiltered,
48:59
it's
48:59
unedited
49:00
and
49:01
it's
49:01
all
49:01
me.
49:02
I
49:02
do
49:02
a
49:02
lot
49:02
of
49:02
talking
49:03
head
49:03
videos
49:04
and
49:04
I
49:04
just
49:05
get
49:05
real
49:05
and
49:06
I
49:06
try
49:06
to
49:06
talk
49:06
fast.
49:07
I'm
49:07
a
49:07
fast
49:07
talker
49:07
anyway.
49:08
But
49:08
I
49:08
try
49:08
to
49:08
talk
49:08
fast
49:09
so
49:09
people
49:09
still
49:09
stay
49:09
interested
49:10
without
49:10
me
49:11
editing
49:11
it
49:11
all
49:12
out
49:12
so
49:12
it
49:12
sounds
49:12
all
49:12
choppy.
49:13
Right.
49:14
And
49:15
I
49:15
talk
49:15
about
49:17
lately
49:18
I
49:18
have
49:18
been
49:18
more
49:18
on
49:19
the
49:19
bring
49:20
your
49:20
book
49:20
to
49:20
life
49:21
coaching
49:21
side
49:22
things
49:22
because
49:24
I
49:24
think
49:24
it's
49:24
helpful
49:25
for
49:25
people
49:25
and
49:25
especially
49:26
if
49:26
people
49:26
have
49:27
this
49:27
dream
49:27
which
49:27
I
49:27
think
49:28
there
49:28
are.
49:29
I
49:29
actually
49:30
just
49:30
read
49:30
a
49:30
crazy
49:31
stat
49:31
that
49:31
it's
49:31
not
49:31
even
49:32
that
49:32
new.
49:32
Over
49:32
80%
49:33
of
49:34
Americans
49:34
want
49:34
to
49:34
write
49:35
a
49:35
book,
49:36
3%
49:38
actually
49:39
write
49:39
it
49:39
and
49:40
only
49:40
1%
49:41
finish
49:42
it
49:42
and
49:42
publish
49:42
it.
49:43
So
49:43
it's
49:44
a
49:44
massive
49:44
goal.
49:45
People
49:45
feel
49:46
lost
49:46
in
49:46
this
49:46
space.
49:47
So
49:47
I
49:47
really
49:48
try
49:48
to
49:48
give
49:48
people
49:48
a
49:49
snippet
49:49
of
49:49
value
49:50
with
49:50
each
49:50
video
49:51
or
49:52
I
49:52
go
49:52
on
49:52
there
49:53
and
49:53
I
49:53
like
49:54
to
49:54
do
49:54
this
49:54
kind
49:54
of
49:54
stuff.
49:55
I
49:55
say
49:55
I
49:55
wrote
49:56
spokesblows
49:56
attire
49:57
recently
49:57
just
49:58
got
49:58
launched
49:58
and
49:59
I
49:59
want
49:59
to
49:59
share
49:59
one
50:00
important
50:00
lesson
50:00
and
50:01
I
50:01
think
50:01
you'll
50:01
like
50:01
this
50:01
one
50:01
quote
50:02
from
50:02
the
50:02
book
50:02
and
50:02
I
50:02
go
50:02
like
50:03
this
50:03
and
50:03
I
50:04
read
50:04
something
50:04
and
50:04
then
50:05
I
50:05
want
50:05
to
50:05
leave
50:05
them
50:05
with
50:05
something
50:06
for
50:06
the
50:06
day.
50:07
That's
50:07
the
50:08
way
50:08
I
50:08
try
50:08
to
50:08
get
50:08
my
50:09
books
50:09
out
50:09
there.
50:10
But
50:10
I
50:10
also
50:10
use
50:11
link
50:12
tree
50:12
to
50:13
make
50:13
sure
50:13
someone
50:13
can
50:13
just
50:13
go
50:13
to
50:13
my
50:14
bio,
50:14
click
50:14
one
50:14
link
50:15
and
50:15
then
50:15
they
50:15
can
50:15
see
50:16
all
50:16
my
50:16
books,
50:16
I
50:17
can
50:17
see
50:17
a
50:17
YouTube
50:17
channel.
50:18
They
50:18
can
50:18
quickly
50:19
get
50:19
to
50:19
where
50:19
they
50:19
want
50:19
to
50:19
go
50:20
if
50:20
they're
50:20
interested
50:20
in
50:20
learning
50:21
any
50:21
more
50:21
about
50:21
me.
50:22
But
50:22
bottom
50:22
line,
50:23
I
50:23
use
50:23
social
50:24
media
50:24
to
50:24
just
50:25
get
50:25
real
50:26
and
50:26
put
50:26
something
50:27
up
50:27
that
50:27
I
50:27
hope
50:28
will
50:28
be
50:28
the
50:28
tiniest
50:28
bit
50:29
of
50:29
value
50:29
for
50:29
someone.
50:30
And
50:30
I
50:30
hope
50:30
that
50:31
especially
50:32
in
50:32
this
50:32
latest
50:33
day
50:33
and
50:33
age
50:33
with
50:34
lots
50:34
of
50:35
fake
50:35
videos,
50:36
lots
50:36
of
50:36
AI
50:37
driven
50:37
stuff,
50:38
I
50:39
am
50:40
believing
50:40
strongly
50:41
and
50:41
seriously
50:42
hoping
50:43
that
50:43
is
50:43
all
50:43
going
50:43
to
50:44
lead
50:44
to
50:44
this
50:44
huge
50:45
influx
50:46
of
50:46
human
50:46
beings
50:46
saying,
50:47
I
50:47
need
50:47
human
50:48
connection.
50:48
I
50:49
don't
50:49
want
50:49
to
50:49
watch
50:49
any
50:50
more
50:50
of
50:50
this
50:50
fake
50:51
stuff.
50:51
And
50:51
they'll
50:52
gravitate
50:53
to
50:53
the
50:54
real
50:54
talking
50:54
heads
50:55
out
50:55
there,
50:55
I'm
50:55
hoping.
50:56
Okay,
50:57
talk
50:57
to
50:58
us
50:58
about
50:59
how
50:59
you're
50:59
also
51:00
using
51:00
your
51:00
website
51:01
to
51:01
promote
51:02
your
51:02
books
51:04
website.
51:04
I
51:04
should
51:05
do
51:05
more
51:05
on
51:05
there.
51:05
To
51:06
be
51:06
perfectly
51:06
honest,
51:06
if
51:07
I
51:07
could
51:07
write
51:07
regular
51:08
blog
51:08
posts,
51:09
cause
51:09
I
51:09
love
51:09
to
51:09
write,
51:10
so
51:10
I
51:10
should
51:10
be
51:10
writing
51:11
more
51:11
blog
51:11
posts,
51:12
should
51:12
be
51:12
linking
51:13
more
51:13
videos
51:13
on
51:13
there.
51:14
But
51:14
I
51:15
really
51:15
don't.
51:15
What
51:15
I
51:16
do
51:16
with
51:16
my
51:16
website
51:16
is
51:18
right
51:18
now
51:19
I
51:19
have
51:19
a
51:19
page
51:20
on
51:20
there
51:20
that's
51:20
about
51:20
coaching.
51:21
If
51:21
people
51:21
are
51:21
interested
51:21
in
51:22
that,
51:22
that
51:22
will
51:22
eventually
51:23
be
51:23
linking
51:24
to
51:25
these
51:25
mini
51:26
courses
51:26
that
51:26
I
51:26
am
51:26
currently
51:27
in
51:27
the
51:27
development
51:27
phase
51:28
of.
51:28
So
51:28
I'm
51:28
very
51:28
excited
51:29
about
51:29
that.
51:29
My
51:30
website
51:30
will
51:30
actually
51:30
be
51:31
way
51:31
more
51:31
functional.
51:32
Coming
51:32
up,
51:34
many
51:34
courses.
51:35
Are
51:35
you
51:35
going
51:35
to
51:35
do
51:36
a
51:36
mixture
51:37
between
51:38
free
51:38
and
51:38
paid
51:39
or
51:40
what's
51:40
your
51:40
plan?
51:41
All
51:41
paid.
51:42
All
51:42
paid.
51:43
I
51:43
have
51:43
run
51:44
some
51:44
free
51:44
stuff
51:44
in
51:45
the
51:45
past
51:45
and
51:45
what
51:46
I've
51:46
noticed
51:46
and
51:46
what
51:46
I've
51:46
learned
51:47
from
51:47
my
51:47
research
51:47
in
51:48
this
51:48
space
51:49
and
51:49
I've
51:49
done
51:49
a
51:49
lot
51:49
of
51:49
it
51:50
now
51:50
and
51:50
I've
51:50
taken
51:50
other
51:50
people's
51:51
programs
51:52
and
51:52
there's
51:52
a
51:52
common
51:53
theme
51:53
of
51:54
if
51:54
you
51:55
give
51:55
people
51:55
things
51:55
for
51:56
free,
51:56
free,
51:56
you're
51:57
actually
51:57
doing
51:57
them
51:57
a
51:57
disservice
51:58
because
51:59
they
52:00
are
52:00
not
52:00
taking
52:00
it
52:01
seriously
52:02
and
52:02
they're
52:02
not
52:02
taking
52:03
themselves
52:03
seriously
52:04
in
52:04
that
52:04
learning
52:05
development
52:05
course
52:06
or
52:06
whatever
52:06
it
52:06
is
52:06
that
52:06
you're
52:07
offering,
52:07
right?
52:08
I
52:08
ran
52:09
a
52:09
free
52:09
masterclass
52:10
and
52:10
all
52:10
these
52:10
people
52:10
signed
52:11
up
52:12
and
52:13
one
52:13
or
52:13
two
52:13
showed
52:14
up.
52:14
It
52:14
was
52:14
crazy
52:15
to
52:15
me.
52:15
I've
52:16
been
52:16
the
52:16
same
52:16
in
52:16
the
52:16
past.
52:17
If
52:17
something
52:17
is
52:17
free,
52:18
put
52:18
it
52:18
on
52:18
in
52:18
the
52:18
background.
52:18
But
52:19
I'm
52:19
busy
52:19
over
52:19
here.
52:20
If
52:20
someone
52:20
pays
52:21
even
52:21
a
52:21
small
52:21
amount.
52:22
And
52:22
all
52:22
my
52:22
courses
52:23
I'm
52:23
planning
52:23
to
52:24
make
52:24
very
52:24
affordable,
52:25
minus
52:25
my
52:26
big
52:26
flagship
52:26
course
52:26
that
52:27
will
52:27
take
52:27
you
52:27
from
52:27
A
52:28
to
52:28
Z
52:28
and
52:28
that's
52:28
the
52:29
high
52:29
ticket,
52:29
right?
52:30
But
52:30
everything
52:30
else
52:30
is
52:31
going
52:31
to
52:31
be
52:31
so
52:31
easy
52:32
for
52:32
people
52:32
to
52:33
say,
52:33
yes,
52:33
I'm
52:34
going
52:34
to
52:34
solve
52:35
that
52:35
one
52:35
micro
52:36
problem
52:36
that
52:36
I'm
52:36
having
52:37
with
52:37
this
52:37
course.
52:37
And
52:37
it's
52:38
an
52:38
easy
52:38
buy,
52:39
and
52:39
I
52:39
like
52:39
her
52:40
style,
52:40
and
52:41
let's
52:41
go.
52:42
That's
52:42
what
52:42
it'll
52:42
be
52:42
more
52:42
of.
52:43
My
52:43
wife
52:43
has
52:44
a
52:44
saying
52:44
for
52:44
me.
52:45
She
52:45
says,
52:46
rick,
52:47
you
52:47
not
52:47
only
52:47
give
52:48
the
52:48
milk
52:48
away
52:48
for
52:49
free,
52:49
you
52:49
give
52:49
the
52:50
whole
52:50
cow
52:51
away
52:51
for
52:51
free.
52:53
So
52:53
I
52:54
guess
52:54
I'm
52:54
challenging
52:55
anyone
52:55
listening
52:56
is
52:56
that
52:57
it's
52:57
okay
52:57
to
52:57
give
52:58
something
52:59
away
52:59
for
52:59
free,
53:00
but
53:00
don't
53:01
give
53:01
everything
53:01
away
53:02
from
53:02
free.
53:02
Because
53:03
again,
53:04
publishing
53:05
a
53:05
children's
53:05
book
53:06
comes
53:06
at
53:06
a
53:07
cost.
53:08
And
53:08
it
53:08
doesn't
53:09
matter
53:09
whether
53:09
you're
53:10
independently
53:10
published
53:11
or
53:11
even
53:12
traditionally
53:12
published.
53:13
It
53:14
does
53:14
come
53:14
at
53:14
a
53:14
cost.
53:15
Motivation.
53:16
I
53:16
know
53:16
you
53:16
talked
53:17
about
53:17
a
53:18
young
53:18
adult
53:18
book
53:19
you
53:19
wrote,
53:19
but
53:19
I'm
53:20
curious.
53:20
You
53:21
talked
53:21
about
53:21
your
53:21
blog
53:22
and
53:22
about
53:23
the
53:23
wheel,
53:23
but
53:24
was
53:24
there
53:24
any
53:24
specific
53:25
person?
53:27
Like
53:27
when
53:27
you
53:27
were
53:27
thinking
53:28
of
53:28
your
53:28
character
53:29
and
53:29
coming
53:30
up
53:30
with
53:30
spokes,
53:31
was
53:31
there
53:32
anyone
53:32
that
53:32
motivated
53:33
you
53:33
to
53:34
actually
53:35
come
53:35
up
53:35
with
53:36
that
53:36
idea
53:36
because
53:37
it's
53:37
a
53:37
very
53:37
unique
53:38
idea,
53:38
or
53:38
was
53:39
there
53:39
an
53:39
event?
53:41
No.
53:42
When
53:42
I
53:42
wrote
53:42
the
53:42
blog
53:43
post,
53:43
I
53:43
really
53:43
don't
53:44
remember.
53:45
I
53:45
don't
53:46
remember
53:46
how.
53:47
I
53:47
don't
53:48
remember
53:48
how
53:48
I
53:48
thought
53:48
of
53:49
the
53:49
wheel
53:49
analogy,
53:50
But
53:50
I
53:50
knew
53:50
I
53:50
needed
53:50
a
53:51
visual
53:51
to
53:52
get
53:52
my
53:52
point
53:52
across
53:53
in
53:53
that
53:53
blog
53:53
post.
53:54
Other
53:54
than
53:54
that,
53:55
I
53:56
don't
53:56
know.
53:57
It
53:57
wasn't
53:57
a
53:57
person,
53:57
though.
53:58
No
53:58
problem.
53:58
Let's
53:59
talk
53:59
about
53:59
Spokes,
54:00
because
54:00
that's
54:01
a
54:01
great
54:01
character.
54:02
Thank
54:02
you.
54:03
Had
54:03
a
54:03
lot
54:03
of
54:03
fun
54:04
reading
54:04
the
54:04
two
54:05
books.
54:05
Tell
54:06
us
54:06
about
54:06
your
54:06
main
54:07
character,
54:07
Spokes.
54:08
It's
54:09
one
54:09
thing
54:09
that
54:09
you
54:10
developed
54:10
the
54:10
idea
54:11
from
54:11
a
54:11
wheel,
54:12
but
54:12
then
54:12
you
54:13
went
54:13
and
54:13
you
54:13
developed
54:14
a
54:15
bike
54:15
tire.
54:16
Spokes
54:16
is
54:17
a
54:17
bike
54:17
tire.
54:18
I
54:18
was
54:18
thinking
54:18
what
54:19
led
54:19
you
54:19
from
54:20
a
54:20
wheel
54:21
out
54:21
of
54:22
a
54:22
story
54:22
in
54:22
a
54:22
blog
54:23
to
54:24
a
54:24
bike
54:25
tire
54:25
and
54:26
it
54:26
becoming
54:27
your
54:27
main
54:27
character.
54:29
The
54:29
blog,
54:30
it
54:30
was
54:32
a
54:32
bicycle
54:32
wheel
54:33
because
54:33
I
54:33
wanted
54:34
to
54:34
illustrate
54:35
the
54:35
spokes.
54:36
That
54:36
was
54:36
the
54:36
key
54:36
part.
54:38
And
54:38
then
54:39
because
54:40
I
54:40
was
54:40
focusing
54:40
on
54:41
the
54:41
hub
54:41
is
54:41
you.
54:42
The
54:42
spokes
54:43
are
54:44
all
54:44
the
54:44
different
54:44
elements
54:45
of
54:45
your
54:45
life,
54:46
and
54:46
then
54:46
the
54:47
wheel
54:47
is
54:47
your
54:47
world.
54:48
Because
54:49
I
54:49
was
54:49
always
54:50
thinking
54:50
about
54:50
these
54:50
spokes,
54:51
I
54:51
thought,
54:52
I'm
54:53
gonna
54:53
call
54:53
the
54:53
character
54:54
Spokes.
54:55
Talk
54:55
to
54:55
us
54:55
about
54:55
Spokes's
54:56
sister,
54:57
Roly
54:57
Poly.
54:58
And
54:59
then
54:59
I
54:59
actually
54:59
want
55:00
to
55:00
tell
55:00
people
55:00
about
55:01
a
55:01
technique
55:02
that
55:02
you
55:02
used.
55:03
I
55:03
don't
55:03
know
55:03
if
55:03
you
55:04
used
55:04
it
55:04
consciously,
55:05
but
55:05
I
55:05
wanna
55:05
talk
55:05
to
55:06
you
55:06
about
55:07
a
55:07
character
55:07
that
55:08
actually
55:08
isn't
55:09
even
55:09
an
55:09
illustration.
55:10
Talk
55:10
to
55:10
us
55:11
a
55:11
little
55:11
bit
55:11
about
55:11
Roly
55:12
Poly.
55:13
I
55:13
wanted
55:14
to
55:14
bring
55:14
in
55:14
a
55:14
sib
55:15
for
55:15
the
55:15
dynamics
55:16
of
55:17
being
55:17
driven
55:18
crazy,
55:19
because
55:20
if
55:20
anyone
55:21
has
55:21
a
55:21
sibling,
55:21
I'M
55:22
sure
55:22
they
55:22
can
55:22
relate
55:23
to
55:23
this.
55:24
And
55:24
then
55:25
with
55:25
each
55:26
book,
55:27
and
55:27
this
55:27
was
55:27
actually
55:27
an
55:28
afterthought.
55:28
It
55:28
was
55:29
after
55:29
the
55:30
original
55:31
manuscript
55:31
was
55:32
written,
55:32
the
55:32
first
55:32
draft.
55:33
I
55:33
was
55:33
watching
55:34
the
55:34
way
55:34
my
55:34
children
55:34
were
55:35
reading
55:35
books
55:35
that
55:35
we
55:35
would
55:35
read
55:36
together
55:36
and
55:36
what
55:36
would
55:37
light
55:37
them
55:37
up.
55:38
And
55:38
it
55:38
was
55:38
always
55:39
the
55:39
ridiculous
55:40
puns
55:41
or
55:41
the
55:42
funny,
55:42
clever
55:43
thing
55:43
that
55:43
went
55:43
along
55:44
with
55:44
the
55:44
character.
55:45
So
55:45
then
55:45
I
55:45
got
55:45
the
55:45
idea
55:46
to
55:46
make
55:46
it
55:46
more
55:47
funny
55:48
and
55:48
to
55:48
bring
55:48
in
55:48
these.
55:49
And
55:49
they
55:49
really
55:50
are
55:50
ridiculous.
55:50
I
55:50
think
55:51
someone
55:51
even
55:51
wrote
55:52
me
55:52
a
55:52
review
55:52
saying
55:53
the
55:53
puns
55:54
are
55:54
a
55:54
little
55:54
ridiculous.
55:54
But
55:55
I
55:55
did
55:55
love
55:55
the
55:55
story.
55:56
That's
55:57
a
55:57
point.
55:57
Exactly.
55:58
And
55:58
for
55:59
kids,
55:59
you
55:59
have
55:59
to
55:59
be
56:00
more
56:00
obvious.
56:01
You
56:01
can't
56:02
be
56:02
so
56:02
clever.
56:03
Like
56:03
you
56:03
would
56:03
say
56:03
a
56:04
pun
56:04
to
56:04
an
56:04
adult.
56:04
It
56:05
has
56:05
to
56:05
really
56:05
be
56:06
very
56:06
obvious.
56:07
What
56:07
I
56:07
loved
56:08
about
56:08
the
56:08
technique
56:09
I
56:09
wanted
56:09
to
56:09
talk
56:09
to
56:09
you
56:10
about
56:10
was
56:10
you
56:11
use
56:11
words
56:12
to
56:12
create
56:13
character.
56:14
Now,
56:14
I
56:14
don't
56:14
know
56:14
if
56:15
that's
56:15
conscious,
56:16
but
56:16
I
56:16
saw
56:17
characters
56:17
in
56:18
just
56:18
words.
56:19
One
56:19
word
56:19
that
56:20
you
56:20
really
56:20
use
56:20
well
56:21
is
56:21
Wheelie.
56:22
Instead
56:22
of
56:23
really
56:23
Wheelie.
56:24
I
56:25
thought
56:25
of
56:25
Wheelie
56:25
as
56:26
a
56:26
character
56:27
even
56:27
though
56:27
it
56:28
wasn't
56:28
a
56:28
character.
56:29
So
56:30
you
56:30
see
56:30
where
56:30
my
56:31
mind
56:31
went.
56:32
Yeah,
56:32
that's
56:33
cool.
56:33
Yeah.
56:34
So
56:34
talk
56:34
to
56:34
us
56:35
about
56:35
really.
56:37
I
56:37
got
56:37
this
56:37
idea,
56:38
and
56:38
I
56:39
actually
56:39
think
56:39
it
56:39
was
56:40
originally
56:40
when
56:40
I
56:40
didn't
56:41
know
56:41
how
56:41
to
56:41
do
56:41
this
56:41
by
56:41
myself.
56:42
I
56:43
worked
56:44
with
56:44
a
56:45
interior
56:46
book
56:46
formatter.
56:47
So
56:47
she
56:48
was
56:48
putting
56:48
the
56:48
text
56:49
on
56:49
my
56:49
illustrations
56:50
for
56:50
me
56:51
until
56:51
I
56:51
figured
56:51
out
56:51
how
56:52
to
56:52
do
56:52
that
56:52
on
56:52
my
56:52
own
56:52
as
56:52
well.
56:53
And
56:53
she
56:55
came
56:55
up
56:55
with
56:55
this
56:55
idea.
56:56
I
56:56
just
56:56
sent
56:56
her
56:56
the
56:56
text.
56:57
She
56:58
started
56:58
highlighting
56:59
these
56:59
accent
57:00
words.
57:00
Most
57:01
often
57:01
the
57:01
puns
57:02
in
57:02
the
57:02
book,
57:02
like
57:02
Wheelie
57:04
trying
57:04
to
57:04
think
57:04
of
57:04
another
57:05
one.
57:05
Right
57:05
now
57:05
I'm
57:06
a
57:06
tire,
57:06
but
57:06
I'm
57:07
not
57:07
tired.
57:08
All
57:08
of
57:08
these
57:08
accents.
57:09
Rock
57:09
and
57:09
roll.
57:11
Rock
57:11
and
57:11
roll.
57:12
And
57:12
she
57:13
put
57:14
them
57:14
in
57:14
this
57:15
different
57:15
font
57:16
and
57:16
a
57:16
different
57:16
color.
57:17
Yeah.
57:17
And
57:17
I
57:18
loved
57:18
that
57:18
effect
57:19
because
57:20
it
57:20
made
57:20
it
57:20
more
57:21
exciting
57:21
to
57:21
read
57:21
the
57:22
book.
57:22
And
57:22
it
57:22
was
57:22
from
57:23
my
57:23
perspective
57:23
that
57:24
I
57:24
saw
57:24
that
57:24
as
57:25
a
57:25
character,
57:25
even
57:25
though
57:26
it
57:26
wasn't
57:26
a
57:26
character.
57:27
Interesting.
57:27
Yeah.
57:28
That's
57:28
really
57:28
cool.
57:28
That's
57:29
just
57:29
added
57:30
maybe
57:30
confusion
57:31
or
57:31
maybe
57:32
visualization,
57:33
either
57:33
or
57:34
more
57:34
of
57:35
an
57:35
experience.
57:36
And
57:36
someone
57:36
else
57:37
said
57:37
to
57:37
me
57:37
that
57:38
read
57:38
the
57:38
book
57:38
with
57:38
her
57:38
kids.
57:39
She
57:39
said
57:40
she
57:41
liked
57:41
it
57:41
for
57:41
the
57:42
little
57:42
kids,
57:42
especially,
57:43
because
57:43
it
57:43
enabled
57:44
them
57:44
to
57:46
read
57:46
it
57:47
easy.
57:47
It
57:48
was
57:48
easier
57:48
for
57:48
them
57:49
to
57:49
pick
57:49
up
57:49
on
57:50
these
57:50
things
57:50
and
57:50
read
57:51
because
57:51
the
57:52
text
57:52
wasn't
57:52
all
57:53
molded
57:53
together.
57:54
And
57:54
so
57:54
for
57:55
all
57:55
those
57:55
reasons,
57:56
I
57:56
kept
57:56
that
57:56
up
57:57
through
57:57
all
57:57
the
57:57
books.
57:58
That's
57:59
terrific.
57:59
That's
58:00
terrific.
58:00
When
58:00
you
58:01
look
58:01
at
58:01
all
58:01
your
58:02
Books
58:02
and
58:02
the
58:02
connections.
58:03
Talk
58:03
to
58:03
us
58:03
about
58:04
the
58:04
underlying
58:05
theme
58:05
for
58:05
all
58:05
your
58:06
books.
58:07
I
58:07
am
58:08
going
58:08
to
58:08
say
58:08
the
58:08
overarching
58:09
theme
58:09
here
58:10
through
58:10
all
58:10
the
58:10
books
58:11
is
58:12
personal
58:13
empowerment.
58:14
Because
58:15
I
58:15
really
58:15
believe
58:16
at
58:16
any
58:17
age,
58:18
if
58:19
you
58:19
are
58:19
brought
58:20
up,
58:21
you
58:21
need
58:21
to
58:21
be
58:21
brought
58:22
up
58:22
in
58:22
a
58:22
very
58:22
supportive
58:23
environment
58:23
where
58:24
you
58:24
feel
58:25
like
58:25
a
58:25
million
58:26
bucks
58:26
every
58:26
day.
58:27
And
58:28
your
58:28
parent
58:30
says
58:30
thank
58:30
you
58:30
when
58:31
you
58:31
do
58:31
something
58:31
for
58:31
them.
58:32
Your
58:32
parent
58:33
says
58:33
good
58:33
morning
58:33
and
58:33
gives
58:34
you
58:34
a
58:34
hug
58:34
and
58:34
kiss
58:34
every
58:34
single
58:35
day.
58:35
Your
58:35
parent
58:36
says,
58:36
I
58:36
love
58:36
you
58:36
before
58:37
you
58:37
leave.
58:38
And
58:38
you
58:39
are
58:39
in
58:39
that
58:40
space.
58:40
So
58:40
you
58:40
need
58:41
that
58:41
first.
58:41
I
58:42
really
58:42
believe
58:42
you
58:42
need
58:42
that
58:43
first.
58:43
And
58:44
you
58:44
have
58:44
to
58:44
be
58:44
made
58:45
to
58:45
feel
58:45
important
58:46
no
58:46
matter
58:46
how
58:47
old
58:47
you
58:47
are.
58:48
And
58:48
if
58:49
you
58:49
have
58:49
that,
58:50
then
58:51
the
58:52
foundation,
58:52
you
58:52
need
58:53
to
58:53
feel
58:53
like
58:54
an
58:54
empowered
58:54
person
58:55
in
58:55
your
58:55
daily
58:56
life.
58:56
But
58:57
then
58:57
you
58:57
need
58:57
all
58:58
the
58:58
other
58:58
tools
58:59
because
59:00
you
59:01
need
59:01
to
59:01
know
59:01
that
59:02
there
59:02
is
59:02
no
59:03
thing
59:03
too
59:03
big
59:04
that
59:04
you
59:04
can't
59:04
tackle.
59:05
You
59:05
need
59:06
to
59:06
know
59:06
that
59:07
you
59:07
can
59:07
get
59:07
over
59:08
any
59:08
hardship.
59:09
You
59:09
need
59:10
to
59:10
know
59:10
that
59:10
even
59:10
when
59:10
the
59:11
going
59:11
gets
59:11
tough,
59:12
you
59:12
can
59:12
keep
59:13
going.
59:14
You
59:14
need
59:14
to
59:14
know
59:15
that
59:15
you
59:16
can
59:16
have
59:16
control
59:16
of
59:16
your
59:17
emotions.
59:17
Even
59:17
if,
59:17
when
59:18
you
59:18
feel
59:18
out
59:18
of
59:18
control,
59:19
you
59:19
can
59:19
use
59:19
tools
59:20
to
59:20
get
59:20
you
59:20
back
59:20
in
59:21
control.
59:22
And
59:22
you
59:22
can
59:23
also
59:23
know
59:23
that
59:24
if
59:24
I
59:24
can
59:24
manage
59:25
my
59:25
emotions
59:26
and
59:26
treat
59:27
people
59:27
with
59:27
kindness
59:28
and
59:29
feel
59:29
like
59:29
an
59:29
important
59:30
person
59:30
on
59:30
this
59:30
earth,
59:31
then
59:31
I
59:31
can
59:31
live
59:32
my
59:32
best
59:32
life.
59:32
And
59:33
so
59:33
I
59:33
think
59:33
it
59:33
all
59:34
goes
59:34
back
59:34
to
59:34
that
59:34
personal
59:35
empowerment.
59:36
And
59:36
so
59:36
when
59:36
we
59:36
go
59:37
from
59:37
the
59:37
feel
59:38
to
59:38
the
59:38
learn,
59:40
talk
59:40
to
59:40
us
59:40
about
59:41
the
59:41
central
59:41
lesson
59:43
in
59:43
your
59:44
books.
59:45
The
59:45
feel
59:46
go
59:46
one
59:46
at
59:46
a
59:46
time.
59:46
So
59:47
in
59:47
Muddy
59:47
Spokes,
59:48
the
59:48
feel
59:49
is,
59:50
ooh,
59:50
I
59:50
feel
59:51
really
59:51
bad
59:51
for
59:51
this
59:52
wheel.
59:52
This
59:53
tire,
59:54
it,
59:55
it's
59:56
in
59:56
trouble
59:57
and
59:58
it
59:58
got
59:59
bullied
1:00:00
and
1:00:00
it
1:00:00
got
1:00:01
lost
1:00:01
and
1:00:02
it
1:00:02
got
1:00:02
sprayed
1:00:03
with
1:00:03
mud
1:00:04
over
1:00:04
and
1:00:04
over
1:00:04
again.
1:00:05
I
1:00:05
feel
1:00:06
bad
1:00:07
and
1:00:07
that
1:00:07
wheel
1:00:08
must
1:00:08
feel
1:00:08
bad.
1:00:10
But,
1:00:10
oh,
1:00:11
then
1:00:11
the,
1:00:11
okay,
1:00:12
they
1:00:12
get
1:00:12
up,
1:00:12
they
1:00:13
keep
1:00:13
going.
1:00:13
They,
1:00:14
oh,
1:00:14
they
1:00:14
ask
1:00:14
for
1:00:14
help.
1:00:15
They
1:00:15
ask
1:00:15
the
1:00:15
police
1:00:15
officer
1:00:16
for
1:00:16
help
1:00:16
because
1:00:17
they
1:00:17
don't
1:00:17
know
1:00:17
where
1:00:17
they're
1:00:17
going.
1:00:18
Okay,
1:00:18
things
1:00:19
are
1:00:19
looking
1:00:19
better
1:00:19
now.
1:00:20
Learning
1:00:20
what
1:00:20
to
1:00:20
do
1:00:21
next,
1:00:21
being
1:00:21
resourceful.
1:00:22
I
1:00:22
gotta
1:00:22
ask
1:00:22
for
1:00:22
help.
1:00:22
I
1:00:23
don't
1:00:23
know
1:00:23
where
1:00:23
I
1:00:23
am.
1:00:24
And
1:00:24
then
1:00:25
that,
1:00:25
that
1:00:26
do
1:00:26
that
1:00:26
action
1:00:27
of
1:00:27
I
1:00:27
can
1:00:27
make
1:00:27
it.
1:00:28
And
1:00:28
I
1:00:29
specifically
1:00:29
made
1:00:30
Spokes
1:00:31
late
1:00:31
at
1:00:32
the
1:00:32
end
1:00:32
because
1:00:32
I
1:00:32
didn't
1:00:33
want
1:00:33
it
1:00:33
to
1:00:33
be
1:00:33
perfect.
1:00:34
It's
1:00:34
not
1:00:34
going
1:00:34
to
1:00:35
work
1:00:35
out
1:00:35
perfectly
1:00:35
every
1:00:36
time.
1:00:37
But
1:00:37
Spokes
1:00:38
gets
1:00:39
to
1:00:39
school
1:00:39
and
1:00:40
then
1:00:40
talks
1:00:40
to
1:00:41
the
1:00:41
teacher,
1:00:42
says,
1:00:42
sorry
1:00:43
that
1:00:43
it's
1:00:43
late.
1:00:44
Teacher
1:00:45
understands.
1:00:45
Teacher
1:00:46
has
1:00:46
had
1:00:46
so
1:00:46
many
1:00:46
muddy
1:00:47
days
1:00:47
too.
1:00:48
And
1:00:48
wow.
1:00:49
So
1:00:49
there's
1:00:49
the
1:00:49
do,
1:00:50
right?
1:00:50
And
1:00:51
then
1:00:51
in
1:00:51
speedy,
1:00:52
Spokes
1:00:53
waking
1:00:54
up,
1:00:54
feeling
1:00:55
worried,
1:00:56
having
1:00:56
so
1:00:57
much
1:00:57
to
1:00:57
do
1:00:58
on
1:00:58
this
1:00:58
day.
1:00:59
The
1:00:59
feeling
1:00:59
there
1:01:00
is.
1:01:00
I
1:01:01
feel
1:01:01
worried.
1:01:01
I
1:01:01
can
1:01:02
relate
1:01:02
to
1:01:02
this.
1:01:02
I've
1:01:03
had
1:01:03
days
1:01:03
where
1:01:03
I
1:01:04
feel
1:01:04
stressed
1:01:04
out
1:01:05
because
1:01:05
we're
1:01:05
running
1:01:05
late
1:01:05
and
1:01:06
I
1:01:06
gotta
1:01:06
go
1:01:06
here
1:01:06
and
1:01:06
I
1:01:06
gotta
1:01:07
go
1:01:07
there
1:01:07
and
1:01:07
I
1:01:07
forgot
1:01:07
about
1:01:07
my
1:01:08
school
1:01:08
project
1:01:08
and
1:01:09
all
1:01:09
this
1:01:09
overwhelming
1:01:10
spinning
1:01:11
thoughts
1:01:11
in
1:01:11
our
1:01:11
heads
1:01:12
that
1:01:12
can
1:01:13
sometimes
1:01:13
take
1:01:13
us
1:01:13
over
1:01:14
even
1:01:14
as
1:01:14
adults.
1:01:15
Right?
1:01:16
And
1:01:16
so
1:01:16
then
1:01:17
from
1:01:17
there
1:01:17
we
1:01:17
learn.
1:01:18
Okay,
1:01:19
so
1:01:20
spokes
1:01:20
feels
1:01:21
that.
1:01:21
And
1:01:21
then
1:01:21
it
1:01:22
knows
1:01:22
it
1:01:22
just
1:01:22
needs
1:01:23
to
1:01:24
take
1:01:24
a
1:01:24
breath
1:01:24
and
1:01:24
slow
1:01:25
down.
1:01:26
Okay,
1:01:27
so
1:01:27
now
1:01:28
learning
1:01:28
those
1:01:28
tools,
1:01:29
what
1:01:29
to
1:01:29
do
1:01:29
next.
1:01:30
And
1:01:30
then
1:01:30
there's
1:01:31
the
1:01:31
tools.
1:01:31
Okay,
1:01:32
so
1:01:32
there's
1:01:32
tools.
1:01:33
And
1:01:33
then
1:01:33
now
1:01:33
putting
1:01:34
those
1:01:34
tools
1:01:34
into
1:01:35
action,
1:01:35
the
1:01:35
doing.
1:01:36
And
1:01:36
then
1:01:37
what
1:01:37
happens
1:01:37
on
1:01:37
the
1:01:37
other
1:01:37
side
1:01:38
of
1:01:38
the
1:01:38
doing?
1:01:39
Well,
1:01:39
we
1:01:40
feel
1:01:40
better.
1:01:41
And
1:01:41
now
1:01:41
we
1:01:41
don't
1:01:41
have
1:01:42
a
1:01:42
spinning
1:01:43
thoughts
1:01:43
and
1:01:44
we've
1:01:44
slowed
1:01:44
things
1:01:45
down
1:01:46
and
1:01:46
we're
1:01:46
in
1:01:46
more
1:01:46
control.
1:01:48
And
1:01:48
then
1:01:48
in
1:01:49
spokes,
1:01:49
blows
1:01:49
a
1:01:49
tire.
1:01:51
It's
1:01:51
all
1:01:51
about
1:01:52
other
1:01:52
things
1:01:52
in
1:01:53
your
1:01:53
life
1:01:53
driving
1:01:54
you
1:01:54
crazy,
1:01:56
such
1:01:57
as
1:01:57
siblings,
1:01:58
such
1:01:58
as
1:01:59
parents,
1:02:00
such
1:02:00
as
1:02:01
school,
1:02:02
such
1:02:02
as
1:02:02
things
1:02:02
not
1:02:03
always
1:02:03
going
1:02:03
your
1:02:04
way
1:02:05
and
1:02:05
you
1:02:05
start
1:02:05
to
1:02:05
feel
1:02:06
like
1:02:06
you
1:02:06
are
1:02:06
going
1:02:07
to
1:02:07
explode
1:02:08
until
1:02:09
you
1:02:10
learn
1:02:11
that
1:02:12
all
1:02:12
those
1:02:12
things
1:02:13
that
1:02:13
are
1:02:13
making
1:02:13
you
1:02:13
so
1:02:13
upset,
1:02:14
you
1:02:14
have
1:02:14
zero
1:02:14
control
1:02:15
over.
1:02:16
You
1:02:16
can't
1:02:16
control
1:02:17
what
1:02:17
the
1:02:17
teacher's
1:02:18
gonna
1:02:18
teach
1:02:18
that
1:02:18
day
1:02:18
in
1:02:18
gym
1:02:19
class.
1:02:19
You
1:02:20
can't
1:02:20
control
1:02:20
what
1:02:21
your
1:02:21
sibling
1:02:21
does
1:02:22
to
1:02:22
try
1:02:22
to
1:02:22
bug
1:02:22
you
1:02:23
and
1:02:23
push
1:02:23
all
1:02:23
your
1:02:24
buttons.
1:02:25
And
1:02:26
you
1:02:26
need
1:02:27
to
1:02:27
have
1:02:27
the
1:02:27
control
1:02:28
within.
1:02:29
And
1:02:29
asking
1:02:30
yourself
1:02:30
that
1:02:30
key
1:02:30
control
1:02:31
question,
1:02:31
is
1:02:32
there
1:02:32
anything
1:02:32
I
1:02:32
can
1:02:32
do
1:02:33
to
1:02:33
change
1:02:33
this
1:02:33
right
1:02:33
now?
1:02:34
And
1:02:34
if
1:02:34
that
1:02:34
answer
1:02:35
is
1:02:35
no,
1:02:36
then
1:02:36
coaching
1:02:37
yourself
1:02:37
through
1:02:37
to
1:02:38
get
1:02:38
to
1:02:38
the
1:02:38
other
1:02:38
side
1:02:38
of
1:02:39
that,
1:02:39
to
1:02:39
be
1:02:40
your
1:02:40
happy,
1:02:40
best
1:02:41
self.
1:02:41
And
1:02:42
that's
1:02:42
the
1:02:42
doing
1:02:42
the
1:02:43
work.
1:02:43
Terrific.
1:02:44
Thank
1:02:44
you.
1:02:45
I'm
1:02:45
curious
1:02:46
now
1:02:46
about
1:02:46
your
1:02:47
writing
1:02:47
process
1:02:48
because
1:02:49
I
1:02:49
want
1:02:49
you
1:02:49
to
1:02:49
go
1:02:50
back
1:02:50
when
1:02:51
you
1:02:51
first
1:02:51
started
1:02:51
to
1:02:52
write
1:02:52
and
1:02:52
now
1:02:53
bring
1:02:53
us
1:02:54
forward
1:02:55
is
1:02:55
do
1:02:56
you
1:02:56
find
1:02:56
yourself
1:02:58
doodling
1:02:58
a
1:02:58
bit
1:02:59
to
1:02:59
create
1:03:00
a
1:03:00
story?
1:03:01
Or
1:03:01
what's
1:03:01
your
1:03:02
writing
1:03:02
process
1:03:03
look
1:03:03
like
1:03:03
now?
1:03:05
I
1:03:05
think
1:03:06
fundamentally
1:03:07
I
1:03:07
am.
1:03:08
I'm
1:03:08
a
1:03:09
writer
1:03:09
in
1:03:10
my
1:03:10
core,
1:03:10
so
1:03:11
I
1:03:11
always
1:03:11
start
1:03:11
there.
1:03:12
Okay.
1:03:13
I'm
1:03:13
a
1:03:13
words
1:03:14
girl,
1:03:14
so
1:03:15
I
1:03:15
write
1:03:15
all
1:03:15
the
1:03:15
words.
1:03:16
And
1:03:16
then
1:03:17
as
1:03:17
I'm
1:03:17
writing,
1:03:18
depending
1:03:19
on
1:03:19
how
1:03:19
fast
1:03:19
it's
1:03:19
pouring
1:03:20
out
1:03:20
of
1:03:20
me,
1:03:20
because
1:03:20
I'm
1:03:20
a
1:03:20
big
1:03:21
believer
1:03:21
that
1:03:21
if
1:03:21
stuff
1:03:21
is
1:03:22
flowing,
1:03:23
you
1:03:23
don't
1:03:23
even
1:03:23
pay
1:03:23
attention
1:03:24
to
1:03:24
errors
1:03:24
on
1:03:24
the
1:03:24
page.
1:03:25
Get
1:03:25
it
1:03:25
all
1:03:25
out
1:03:25
or
1:03:25
it's
1:03:26
going
1:03:26
to
1:03:26
be.
1:03:26
It
1:03:26
could
1:03:26
be
1:03:26
gone.
1:03:27
It
1:03:27
depends
1:03:27
how
1:03:28
fast
1:03:28
things
1:03:28
are
1:03:28
going
1:03:28
sometimes
1:03:29
as
1:03:29
I'm
1:03:29
writing
1:03:30
and
1:03:30
if
1:03:30
I
1:03:30
feel
1:03:30
stuck,
1:03:30
I'll
1:03:30
get
1:03:31
an
1:03:31
idea
1:03:32
of
1:03:32
an
1:03:32
illustration
1:03:32
that
1:03:33
I
1:03:33
want
1:03:33
to
1:03:33
do.
1:03:33
Or
1:03:33
how
1:03:33
I
1:03:33
could
1:03:33
bring
1:03:34
something
1:03:34
to
1:03:34
life.
1:03:34
So
1:03:34
I'll
1:03:34
write
1:03:35
myself
1:03:35
a
1:03:35
note
1:03:36
and
1:03:36
then
1:03:36
I'll
1:03:36
keep
1:03:37
going
1:03:37
and
1:03:37
go
1:03:37
on
1:03:38
that
1:03:38
way.
1:03:38
Good
1:03:39
for
1:03:39
you.
1:03:39
Thank
1:03:39
you
1:03:39
for
1:03:40
sharing
1:03:40
that.
1:03:41
And
1:03:41
I
1:03:41
want
1:03:42
to
1:03:42
take
1:03:42
you
1:03:42
on
1:03:42
a
1:03:42
little
1:03:43
bit
1:03:43
of
1:03:43
a
1:03:43
journey
1:03:44
to
1:03:45
your
1:03:45
first
1:03:45
book.
1:03:46
And
1:03:46
then
1:03:46
I'm
1:03:46
going
1:03:46
to
1:03:47
pull
1:03:47
you
1:03:47
forward
1:03:47
to
1:03:48
your
1:03:48
third
1:03:48
book.
1:03:49
So
1:03:49
talk
1:03:49
to
1:03:50
us
1:03:50
about
1:03:50
what
1:03:50
you
1:03:51
thought
1:03:51
success
1:03:52
would
1:03:52
look
1:03:53
like
1:03:54
when
1:03:54
you
1:03:54
published
1:03:54
your
1:03:54
first
1:03:55
children's
1:03:55
book.
1:03:56
And
1:03:57
here
1:03:57
we
1:03:57
are
1:03:58
now
1:03:58
you've
1:03:58
published
1:03:59
your
1:03:59
third
1:03:59
children's
1:04:00
book.
1:04:00
Tell
1:04:01
us
1:04:01
the
1:04:01
big
1:04:01
difference
1:04:02
or
1:04:02
tell
1:04:02
us
1:04:03
what
1:04:03
success
1:04:04
looked
1:04:04
like
1:04:04
in
1:04:05
your
1:04:05
mind
1:04:06
when
1:04:07
you
1:04:07
wrote
1:04:07
your
1:04:07
first
1:04:07
book
1:04:08
and
1:04:08
what
1:04:08
the
1:04:08
reality
1:04:09
of
1:04:10
the
1:04:10
success
1:04:10
looks
1:04:11
like
1:04:11
now.
1:04:12
I
1:04:12
think
1:04:13
before
1:04:13
the
1:04:13
first
1:04:14
book,
1:04:15
I
1:04:15
thought
1:04:15
it
1:04:16
was
1:04:16
going
1:04:16
to
1:04:16
blow
1:04:16
up.
1:04:17
I
1:04:17
thought
1:04:17
it
1:04:17
was
1:04:18
going
1:04:18
to
1:04:19
just
1:04:20
explode.
1:04:21
Massive
1:04:22
success.
1:04:23
And
1:04:24
I
1:04:24
had
1:04:25
a
1:04:25
great
1:04:25
hunch.
1:04:26
I
1:04:27
made
1:04:27
some
1:04:27
great
1:04:27
sales.
1:04:28
Was
1:04:29
it
1:04:29
nearly
1:04:29
as
1:04:30
big?
1:04:30
No.
1:04:32
And
1:04:32
now
1:04:32
fast
1:04:32
forward
1:04:33
into
1:04:33
the
1:04:33
third
1:04:33
book.
1:04:34
I
1:04:34
never
1:04:35
thought
1:04:35
that
1:04:36
it
1:04:36
was
1:04:36
going
1:04:36
to
1:04:36
spin
1:04:36
off
1:04:37
into
1:04:37
coaching,
1:04:38
which
1:04:38
I'm
1:04:38
finding
1:04:39
so
1:04:40
exciting
1:04:40
and
1:04:41
so
1:04:41
rewarding
1:04:42
when,
1:04:43
listen,
1:04:43
that
1:04:43
idea
1:04:44
crossed
1:04:44
my
1:04:44
mind
1:04:44
years
1:04:45
ago
1:04:45
and
1:04:45
I
1:04:45
was
1:04:45
just
1:04:45
not
1:04:46
interested.
1:04:47
It's
1:04:47
always
1:04:47
got
1:04:47
to
1:04:47
be
1:04:48
the
1:04:48
right
1:04:48
time,
1:04:48
the
1:04:49
right
1:04:49
place.
1:04:49
It
1:04:49
has
1:04:49
to
1:04:50
make
1:04:50
sense
1:04:50
for
1:04:50
you.
1:04:51
And
1:04:51
everything
1:04:52
just
1:04:52
fell
1:04:52
into
1:04:53
that
1:04:53
place.
1:04:54
And
1:04:54
now
1:04:54
I'm
1:04:54
almost
1:04:54
surprised
1:04:55
that
1:04:55
I'm
1:04:56
enjoying
1:04:57
it
1:04:57
that
1:04:57
much.
1:04:58
How
1:04:58
are
1:04:58
you
1:04:58
going
1:04:59
to
1:04:59
marriage
1:05:00
the
1:05:00
children's
1:05:00
book
1:05:01
authorship
1:05:02
and
1:05:02
the
1:05:03
coaching
1:05:03
side
1:05:03
of
1:05:04
it?
1:05:04
How
1:05:04
do
1:05:04
you
1:05:04
see
1:05:04
those
1:05:05
two
1:05:05
worlds?
1:05:06
I
1:05:06
don't
1:05:06
want
1:05:06
to
1:05:07
say
1:05:07
they're
1:05:07
going
1:05:07
to
1:05:07
collide,
1:05:08
but
1:05:08
how
1:05:08
do
1:05:08
you
1:05:08
see
1:05:08
them
1:05:09
living
1:05:10
in
1:05:10
harmony
1:05:11
together?
1:05:13
I
1:05:13
have
1:05:14
so
1:05:14
many
1:05:14
ideas
1:05:15
for
1:05:16
mini
1:05:17
courses
1:05:17
because
1:05:17
I
1:05:18
want
1:05:18
to
1:05:18
do
1:05:18
it
1:05:18
differently.
1:05:19
I
1:05:19
don't
1:05:19
want
1:05:20
to
1:05:20
just
1:05:20
say,
1:05:21
but
1:05:21
coach,
1:05:21
I'll
1:05:22
take
1:05:22
you
1:05:22
from
1:05:22
idea
1:05:22
to
1:05:23
finished
1:05:24
because
1:05:24
that's
1:05:25
not
1:05:25
always
1:05:25
the
1:05:25
way
1:05:25
people
1:05:25
like
1:05:26
to
1:05:26
work.
1:05:26
And
1:05:26
I
1:05:27
noticed
1:05:27
even
1:05:27
myself,
1:05:28
maybe
1:05:28
you
1:05:28
don't
1:05:28
have
1:05:28
a
1:05:29
problem
1:05:29
with
1:05:29
every
1:05:30
single
1:05:30
aspect
1:05:30
of
1:05:31
the
1:05:31
process.
1:05:31
Maybe
1:05:31
you're
1:05:31
going
1:05:32
to
1:05:32
be
1:05:32
great
1:05:32
at
1:05:32
one
1:05:32
and
1:05:32
not
1:05:32
another.
1:05:33
I
1:05:33
want
1:05:34
to
1:05:34
create
1:05:35
these
1:05:35
micro
1:05:36
mini
1:05:36
courses
1:05:37
that
1:05:37
each
1:05:38
deliver
1:05:39
one
1:05:40
small
1:05:40
goal
1:05:41
achievement.
1:05:42
Right
1:05:42
now
1:05:42
I'm
1:05:43
focusing
1:05:43
more
1:05:43
on
1:05:44
the
1:05:44
nonfiction
1:05:45
space
1:05:46
of
1:05:46
coaching
1:05:46
with
1:05:47
these
1:05:47
courses,
1:05:48
but
1:05:48
I'm
1:05:49
definitely
1:05:49
going
1:05:49
to
1:05:50
go
1:05:50
into
1:05:50
the
1:05:51
children's
1:05:51
book
1:05:51
space
1:05:52
and
1:05:54
for
1:05:54
example,
1:05:55
how
1:05:55
to
1:05:55
outline
1:05:56
your
1:05:57
children's
1:05:57
book
1:05:57
manuscript,
1:05:58
how
1:05:58
to
1:05:58
get
1:05:58
your
1:05:59
loose
1:05:59
idea
1:05:59
in
1:06:00
your
1:06:00
head
1:06:00
into
1:06:00
an
1:06:00
actual
1:06:01
children's
1:06:01
book
1:06:01
idea.
1:06:02
That's
1:06:02
just
1:06:03
one
1:06:03
small
1:06:03
piece
1:06:04
of
1:06:04
the
1:06:04
puzzle.
1:06:04
And
1:06:04
then
1:06:05
another
1:06:05
small
1:06:06
piece
1:06:06
might
1:06:06
be
1:06:06
okay,
1:06:07
You've
1:06:07
got
1:06:07
the
1:06:07
book
1:06:07
written,
1:06:08
now
1:06:09
what
1:06:09
and
1:06:09
how
1:06:10
to
1:06:10
get
1:06:10
it
1:06:10
actually
1:06:11
up
1:06:11
and
1:06:11
publish.
1:06:12
So
1:06:12
let's
1:06:12
pick
1:06:12
up
1:06:12
on
1:06:13
that
1:06:13
whole
1:06:13
idea
1:06:14
of
1:06:15
what
1:06:15
advice
1:06:15
would
1:06:16
you
1:06:16
give
1:06:16
to
1:06:17
aspiring
1:06:18
children's
1:06:18
book
1:06:18
authors?
1:06:19
The
1:06:20
advice
1:06:20
that
1:06:20
I
1:06:20
would
1:06:20
give
1:06:21
is
1:06:21
to
1:06:23
work
1:06:23
through
1:06:24
the
1:06:24
project
1:06:25
bit
1:06:26
by
1:06:26
bit
1:06:26
and
1:06:27
don't
1:06:27
allow
1:06:27
yourself
1:06:28
to
1:06:29
think
1:06:30
too
1:06:31
much
1:06:31
big
1:06:31
picture
1:06:33
at
1:06:33
the
1:06:33
beginning.
1:06:34
The
1:06:34
big
1:06:34
picture
1:06:34
idea
1:06:35
is
1:06:35
really
1:06:35
just
1:06:35
the
1:06:36
idea
1:06:36
of
1:06:36
the
1:06:36
book
1:06:37
that's
1:06:37
already
1:06:37
big
1:06:37
picture
1:06:38
enough.
1:06:38
I
1:06:38
have
1:06:38
this
1:06:39
idea,
1:06:39
how
1:06:39
do
1:06:40
I
1:06:40
make
1:06:40
it
1:06:40
into
1:06:40
a
1:06:40
book?
1:06:41
And
1:06:42
that's
1:06:42
as
1:06:42
big
1:06:42
picture
1:06:43
as
1:06:43
you
1:06:43
should
1:06:43
go.
1:06:44
Because
1:06:44
if
1:06:44
you
1:06:44
start
1:06:45
getting
1:06:45
wrapped
1:06:45
up
1:06:46
in
1:06:46
all
1:06:46
the
1:06:46
nitty
1:06:46
gritty
1:06:47
details
1:06:47
that
1:06:47
you
1:06:47
actually
1:06:48
need
1:06:48
to
1:06:48
do
1:06:49
in
1:06:49
order
1:06:49
to
1:06:49
bring
1:06:49
this
1:06:49
to
1:06:50
full
1:06:50
fruition,
1:06:51
you're
1:06:51
probably
1:06:52
going
1:06:52
to
1:06:52
stop
1:06:52
in
1:06:52
your
1:06:53
tracks
1:06:53
and
1:06:53
not
1:06:54
get
1:06:54
started.
1:06:54
This
1:06:55
is
1:06:55
the
1:06:55
classic
1:06:55
scenario
1:06:56
of,
1:06:57
oh,
1:06:57
that's
1:06:57
way
1:06:57
too
1:06:58
daunting.
1:06:58
How
1:06:58
am
1:06:59
I
1:06:59
going
1:06:59
to
1:06:59
do
1:06:59
that?
1:06:59
Who
1:06:59
do
1:07:00
I
1:07:00
think
1:07:00
I
1:07:00
am?
1:07:00
Imposter?
1:07:02
Everything
1:07:02
gets
1:07:02
started.
1:07:03
So
1:07:03
really
1:07:03
just
1:07:04
saying,
1:07:04
okay,
1:07:04
I
1:07:04
have
1:07:05
this
1:07:05
idea
1:07:05
and
1:07:05
I
1:07:06
think
1:07:06
it's
1:07:06
good.
1:07:07
And
1:07:07
now
1:07:07
I'm
1:07:08
just
1:07:08
going
1:07:08
to
1:07:08
try
1:07:08
to
1:07:08
get
1:07:09
that
1:07:09
idea
1:07:09
down
1:07:09
on
1:07:09
paper,
1:07:10
not
1:07:10
worrying
1:07:10
about
1:07:10
pages,
1:07:11
not
1:07:11
worrying
1:07:11
about
1:07:12
anything
1:07:12
else.
1:07:13
You're
1:07:13
going
1:07:14
as
1:07:14
a
1:07:14
children's
1:07:14
book
1:07:15
author.
1:07:15
Ideas,
1:07:17
nonstop
1:07:18
ideas.
1:07:19
Actually,
1:07:20
I'm
1:07:20
sitting
1:07:21
here
1:07:21
and
1:07:22
I.
1:07:22
I
1:07:22
know
1:07:22
you
1:07:23
have
1:07:23
a
1:07:23
blank
1:07:23
screen
1:07:24
behind
1:07:24
you,
1:07:24
and
1:07:24
I'm
1:07:25
thinking,
1:07:25
I
1:07:25
can
1:07:25
see
1:07:26
all
1:07:26
these
1:07:26
ideas
1:07:27
popping
1:07:28
all
1:07:28
over
1:07:28
the
1:07:28
screen
1:07:29
like
1:07:29
it's
1:07:30
wild.
1:07:31
So
1:07:31
you
1:07:31
can
1:07:31
see
1:07:32
I'm
1:07:32
a
1:07:32
very
1:07:32
visual
1:07:33
person.
1:07:33
Yes,
1:07:34
I
1:07:34
love
1:07:34
that.
1:07:35
Encouragement
1:07:36
through
1:07:37
readers.
1:07:38
Why
1:07:39
should
1:07:39
children's
1:07:40
book
1:07:40
readers
1:07:40
purchase
1:07:41
your
1:07:41
books?
1:07:43
I
1:07:43
want
1:07:43
my
1:07:43
books
1:07:44
to
1:07:44
have
1:07:46
the
1:07:46
three
1:07:46
pieces
1:07:47
the
1:07:47
feel,
1:07:47
learn,
1:07:48
do,
1:07:49
but
1:07:49
within
1:07:49
that,
1:07:50
I
1:07:50
want
1:07:50
them
1:07:50
to
1:07:51
be
1:07:51
fun,
1:07:52
but
1:07:52
I
1:07:52
do
1:07:52
want
1:07:53
them
1:07:53
to
1:07:53
take
1:07:53
away
1:07:53
something.
1:07:54
And
1:07:54
I
1:07:54
guess
1:07:54
that's
1:07:55
the
1:07:55
underlying
1:07:55
teacher
1:07:56
and
1:07:56
coach
1:07:56
in
1:07:56
me.
1:07:57
I
1:07:57
know
1:07:58
there's
1:07:58
lots
1:07:58
of
1:07:58
books
1:07:58
out
1:07:58
there
1:07:59
that
1:07:59
are
1:07:59
just
1:07:59
phenomenal,
1:08:00
and
1:08:00
I
1:08:00
might
1:08:00
get
1:08:00
more
1:08:00
into
1:08:01
this
1:08:01
space
1:08:01
where
1:08:01
you're
1:08:02
learning
1:08:02
something,
1:08:02
but
1:08:02
just
1:08:02
through
1:08:03
the
1:08:03
story
1:08:03
instead
1:08:04
of
1:08:04
being
1:08:04
taught.
1:08:05
Right
1:08:05
now,
1:08:05
this
1:08:06
Spokes
1:08:06
series.
1:08:07
There
1:08:07
is
1:08:07
a
1:08:07
teaching
1:08:08
moment
1:08:08
at
1:08:08
the
1:08:09
end
1:08:09
of
1:08:09
every
1:08:09
book.
1:08:09
And
1:08:10
I
1:08:10
know
1:08:10
not
1:08:10
everybody
1:08:11
appreciates
1:08:11
that,
1:08:12
but
1:08:13
if
1:08:13
you
1:08:13
are
1:08:14
the
1:08:14
kind
1:08:14
of
1:08:14
parent
1:08:15
or
1:08:15
kid
1:08:16
that
1:08:16
likes
1:08:16
that
1:08:17
takeaway,
1:08:18
then
1:08:19
you're
1:08:19
gonna
1:08:19
love
1:08:19
my
1:08:20
books.
1:08:20
Because
1:08:20
not
1:08:21
only
1:08:21
are
1:08:21
they
1:08:21
funny
1:08:22
and
1:08:22
fun
1:08:22
and
1:08:22
there
1:08:23
is
1:08:23
a
1:08:23
story,
1:08:24
but
1:08:24
you
1:08:24
do
1:08:24
have
1:08:24
that
1:08:25
teaching
1:08:25
moment
1:08:25
at
1:08:26
the
1:08:26
end.
1:08:27
Fantastic.
1:08:28
And
1:08:28
Katie,
1:08:29
I
1:08:29
want
1:08:29
to
1:08:30
get
1:08:30
your
1:08:31
final
1:08:31
thoughts.
1:08:32
I
1:08:32
know
1:08:32
you
1:08:33
shared
1:08:33
a
1:08:33
lot.
1:08:34
It's
1:08:34
fantastic
1:08:35
and
1:08:35
I
1:08:36
appreciate
1:08:36
that.
1:08:37
And
1:08:37
there's
1:08:38
definitely
1:08:38
a
1:08:39
lot
1:08:39
of.
1:08:39
Of
1:08:40
content
1:08:40
that
1:08:41
I
1:08:41
haven't
1:08:42
discussed
1:08:42
with
1:08:42
others
1:08:43
before.
1:08:43
And
1:08:44
I
1:08:44
think
1:08:44
it's
1:08:44
because
1:08:44
of
1:08:45
your
1:08:45
unique
1:08:45
background.
1:08:46
Is
1:08:46
there
1:08:46
anything
1:08:47
else
1:08:47
that
1:08:47
you'd
1:08:47
like
1:08:48
to
1:08:48
share
1:08:48
that
1:08:48
you
1:08:49
say,
1:08:49
geez,
1:08:49
I
1:08:49
wish
1:08:49
Rick
1:08:50
would
1:08:50
have
1:08:50
asked
1:08:50
me
1:08:50
that
1:08:50
question.
1:08:52
Actually.
1:08:52
This
1:08:52
was
1:08:53
a
1:08:53
very
1:08:53
thorough
1:08:54
interview,
1:08:54
and
1:08:54
I
1:08:54
really
1:08:55
appreciate
1:08:55
all
1:08:55
your
1:08:56
questions.
1:08:56
I
1:08:56
need
1:08:56
to
1:08:56
tell
1:08:56
you
1:08:57
because
1:08:57
they're
1:08:58
very
1:08:58
thoughtful
1:08:59
questions,
1:09:00
and
1:09:00
I
1:09:00
love
1:09:01
that.
1:09:01
I
1:09:01
love
1:09:01
getting
1:09:02
in
1:09:02
deep
1:09:02
conversations
1:09:03
with
1:09:03
people.
1:09:03
So
1:09:03
thank
1:09:04
you
1:09:04
for
1:09:04
that.
1:09:05
I
1:09:05
think
1:09:05
if
1:09:05
there's
1:09:06
one
1:09:06
thing
1:09:07
that
1:09:07
I
1:09:07
would
1:09:07
say
1:09:07
as
1:09:08
a
1:09:08
closing
1:09:08
remark,
1:09:09
it
1:09:09
would
1:09:09
be
1:09:11
now
1:09:11
is
1:09:12
an
1:09:12
exciting
1:09:13
time
1:09:14
for
1:09:14
people
1:09:16
to
1:09:16
write
1:09:16
a
1:09:16
book.
1:09:17
And
1:09:18
there's
1:09:19
truth
1:09:19
in
1:09:19
that
1:09:20
stat.
1:09:20
Because
1:09:20
almost
1:09:21
everybody
1:09:21
that
1:09:22
I
1:09:22
ever
1:09:22
meet
1:09:22
who
1:09:23
says,
1:09:23
oh,
1:09:23
what
1:09:23
do
1:09:23
you
1:09:23
do
1:09:24
for
1:09:24
work?
1:09:24
And
1:09:24
I
1:09:24
tell
1:09:24
them,
1:09:26
almost
1:09:26
every
1:09:26
single
1:09:27
one
1:09:27
of
1:09:27
them
1:09:27
says,
1:09:27
oh,
1:09:28
I've
1:09:29
been
1:09:29
thinking
1:09:29
about
1:09:29
writing
1:09:30
a
1:09:30
book.
1:09:30
Or
1:09:30
they
1:09:31
say,
1:09:31
I
1:09:31
really
1:09:32
want
1:09:32
my
1:09:32
husband
1:09:32
to
1:09:32
write
1:09:32
a
1:09:33
book
1:09:33
because
1:09:33
he
1:09:33
has
1:09:33
an
1:09:33
amazing
1:09:34
story.
1:09:34
Or
1:09:34
my
1:09:34
friend
1:09:35
or
1:09:35
my
1:09:35
mom
1:09:35
or
1:09:35
my.
1:09:36
This.
1:09:36
It's
1:09:37
a
1:09:37
real
1:09:38
goal
1:09:38
of
1:09:39
people's,
1:09:39
and
1:09:39
it's
1:09:40
an
1:09:40
amazing
1:09:40
goal.
1:09:41
And
1:09:41
you
1:09:41
think
1:09:42
about
1:09:42
storytelling
1:09:43
around
1:09:43
forever.
1:09:44
Exactly.
1:09:45
And
1:09:46
some
1:09:46
people
1:09:46
would
1:09:47
sit
1:09:47
here
1:09:47
and
1:09:47
argue,
1:09:47
everybody's
1:09:48
not
1:09:48
an
1:09:48
author
1:09:48
because
1:09:49
they
1:09:49
shouldn't
1:09:49
be
1:09:49
an
1:09:49
author.
1:09:50
But
1:09:51
I'm
1:09:52
actually
1:09:52
on
1:09:52
the
1:09:52
complete
1:09:53
opposite
1:09:54
side.
1:09:55
And
1:09:55
I
1:09:55
believe
1:09:56
that
1:09:57
if
1:09:57
you
1:09:57
have
1:09:57
a
1:09:58
story
1:09:58
in
1:09:58
your
1:09:58
head,
1:09:59
and
1:09:59
it
1:09:59
could
1:09:59
be
1:09:59
a
1:09:59
personal
1:09:59
story,
1:10:00
it
1:10:00
could
1:10:00
be
1:10:01
a
1:10:01
trauma
1:10:02
that
1:10:02
you've
1:10:02
come
1:10:02
out
1:10:02
of
1:10:02
that
1:10:03
you
1:10:03
need
1:10:03
to
1:10:03
share,
1:10:03
it
1:10:03
could
1:10:04
be
1:10:04
a
1:10:04
life
1:10:04
memoir,
1:10:04
it
1:10:05
could
1:10:05
be
1:10:05
a
1:10:05
funny
1:10:05
idea
1:10:06
for
1:10:06
a
1:10:06
kid's
1:10:06
book
1:10:06
or
1:10:07
a
1:10:07
lesson
1:10:07
book,
1:10:08
whatever
1:10:08
it
1:10:08
is,
1:10:09
you
1:10:09
have
1:10:09
that
1:10:10
idea
1:10:10
for
1:10:10
a
1:10:11
reason,
1:10:11
and
1:10:12
you
1:10:12
deserve
1:10:12
to
1:10:12
bring
1:10:13
it
1:10:13
to
1:10:13
fruition
1:10:13
the
1:10:14
same
1:10:14
way
1:10:14
you
1:10:14
bring
1:10:14
all
1:10:14
kinds
1:10:15
of
1:10:15
other
1:10:15
things
1:10:15
in
1:10:15
your
1:10:15
life
1:10:16
to
1:10:16
fruition.
1:10:17
And
1:10:17
now
1:10:18
that
1:10:18
the
1:10:19
traditional
1:10:19
publishing
1:10:19
space
1:10:20
is
1:10:20
slowly
1:10:21
breaking
1:10:21
down
1:10:22
and
1:10:22
there's
1:10:23
all
1:10:23
this
1:10:23
accessibility
1:10:24
in
1:10:24
front
1:10:25
of
1:10:25
us,
1:10:25
as
1:10:26
anyone
1:10:26
can
1:10:27
be
1:10:27
an
1:10:27
author
1:10:27
today,
1:10:28
and
1:10:28
I
1:10:29
really
1:10:29
strongly
1:10:30
believe
1:10:30
that
1:10:31
real,
1:10:32
great,
1:10:32
intelligent
1:10:33
people
1:10:33
are
1:10:34
not
1:10:34
going
1:10:34
to
1:10:34
want
1:10:34
to
1:10:34
read
1:10:35
stories
1:10:35
written
1:10:35
by
1:10:35
AI
1:10:37
so
1:10:37
go
1:10:37
get
1:10:37
out
1:10:38
there
1:10:38
and
1:10:38
write
1:10:39
your
1:10:39
story
1:10:39
and
1:10:40
get
1:10:40
help
1:10:40
along
1:10:40
the
1:10:41
way
1:10:41
and
1:10:41
bring
1:10:42
it
1:10:42
to
1:10:42
life,
1:10:42
because
1:10:42
it's
1:10:43
absolutely
1:10:43
possible.
1:10:44
And
1:10:44
that
1:10:45
feeling
1:10:45
that
1:10:45
you're
1:10:45
going
1:10:45
to
1:10:46
have
1:10:46
when
1:10:46
you
1:10:47
hold
1:10:47
your
1:10:47
first
1:10:48
book
1:10:48
in
1:10:48
your
1:10:49
hands
1:10:49
and
1:10:49
get
1:10:49
to
1:10:50
say,
1:10:50
I
1:10:50
did
1:10:51
this.
1:10:52
It
1:10:52
is
1:10:52
like
1:10:53
no
1:10:53
other
1:10:53
feeling.
1:10:54
It's
1:10:54
golden.
1:10:55
Katie,
1:10:56
thank
1:10:56
you
1:10:56
so
1:10:56
much
1:10:56
for
1:10:57
being
1:10:57
a
1:10:57
guest
1:10:57
on
1:10:58
the
1:10:58
Adventures
1:10:58
in
1:10:58
the
1:10:58
Heart
1:10:59
of
1:10:59
Children's
1:10:59
Book
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Authors
1:11:00
podcast.
1:11:01
Your
1:11:01
generosity
1:11:02
of
1:11:02
time,
1:11:03
your
1:11:03
insights.
1:11:04
Whoa.
1:11:04
Will
1:11:05
significantly
1:11:06
help
1:11:06
aspiring
1:11:07
authors
1:11:08
and
1:11:08
readers.
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And
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we
1:11:10
promise
1:11:10
to
1:11:10
provide
1:11:10
our
1:11:11
audience
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with
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links
1:11:12
to
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Katie's
1:11:12
social
1:11:13
media,
1:11:13
her
1:11:14
website,
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her
1:11:15
books,
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and
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if
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Katie.
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