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132 She Opened Her Door to THIS... Dogman Encounter Story · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one Paul, massive Paul on my front the chield,
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  Speaker 1: and one Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side,
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down,
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  Speaker 1: just the weight of it just puts pushed down, and
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  Speaker 1: the Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield
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  Speaker 1: started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it. And
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  Speaker 2: then while I was holding it, but it's like the
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  Speaker 2: ground underneath me just kind of opened up and I
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  Speaker 2: just kind of fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking, like there was a
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  Speaker 3: complete like just like blankness to his face, like there
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  Speaker 3: was this there was nothing there. I rubbed my corn
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  Speaker 3: my truck. I jump out the truck truck, and that's
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  Speaker 3: what I knew it was, that was just gone there.
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  Speaker 2: There would be a real low guttural brown. One more
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  Speaker 2: step and he's going to be in clear view. And
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  Speaker 2: he takes that one more step and he just it
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  Speaker 2: was like he just stepped behind an invisible curtain and
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't there anymore. Welcome back to the show, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: This is episode one and thirty four with none other
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  Speaker 2: than Michael McKee from Abnormal Investigations. Very interesting guests with
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  Speaker 2: a ton of stories. I only picked the one that
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  Speaker 2: stuck out of my brain, but there's so many here.
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  Speaker 2: The choose from this property in which his grandmother lived
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  Speaker 2: on and his family lived on is or was better said,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's the thing of horror. It's like horror movie,
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  Speaker 2: paranormal and crypt it's all involved. He you know, he
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  Speaker 2: ended up shooting one of these things one night, and
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  Speaker 2: he'd lucky. He's very lucky that he didn't follow it
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  Speaker 2: because he would have ran into his mother. And there's
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  Speaker 2: also the dog man that was knocking on the knocking
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  Speaker 2: on the door, and then like the lady would open
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  Speaker 2: the door and the thing was basically standing above her,
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  Speaker 2: above the door frame, looking down at her, and many
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  Speaker 2: many others. If you keep coming back to the Eye
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  Speaker 2: one with Michael McKee from Abnormal Investigations. That's upbout it.
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  Speaker 3: Not much.
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  Speaker 2: How are you? Oh man, it's just worked worked really
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  Speaker 2: hard to am Uh everyone knows, but I am. I
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  Speaker 2: am an English tutor here in Mexico, and I I
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  Speaker 2: was hitting hard today and then I took a little
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  Speaker 2: nap before the show. So uh yeah, I'm I'm so
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  Speaker 2: glad that you came on. I reached out to you
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  Speaker 2: via email. I got Daniel from a backwood signal to
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  Speaker 2: uh give me your info contact and he's had another
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  Speaker 2: problem and you were so gracious as to come on.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you first of all.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, it's an honor to be here. I enjoy
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  Speaker 3: talking about it and uh learning, you know, learning, that's
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  Speaker 3: what it's about, is learning.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh and uh you know, hopefully making people
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  Speaker 2: safer two if if if necessary, and all that in
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  Speaker 2: the in the process as well, because it could be
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  Speaker 2: you know, you hear some stories and You're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I think we need to be safe. You know, so Michael, uh,
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  Speaker 2: do me a favorite, Tell us a little bit about
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  Speaker 2: yourself and where we can find you.
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  Speaker 3: I started Abnormal and Investigations back in about twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 3: The reason I started it is my family, my mom
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  Speaker 3: and them. They were raised in a home to where
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  Speaker 3: they had cryptids that bothered them, and I grew up
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  Speaker 3: through that into adulthood and experienced what they had experienced.
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  Speaker 3: As children. Always wondered what they was, why they done
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  Speaker 3: what they'd done, where they come from, you know, what
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  Speaker 3: their intent was. And even as a kid, there was
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  Speaker 3: that fascination, but also a fear because it was every
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  Speaker 3: night was scary. It wasn't nothing fun. We hated, you know,
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  Speaker 3: being at Granny's house at night. It was it wasn't fun.
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  Speaker 3: And I wanted to find out what it was I
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  Speaker 3: had went into was going into law enforcement. I was
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  Speaker 3: getting my cleat certification, was riding, getting ready to go
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  Speaker 3: into law enforcement. I was offered a career at the
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  Speaker 3: open seaport Port of Katusha. I worked out there with
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  Speaker 3: the United States Coast Guard. It secures that that port there,
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  Speaker 3: it's an open seaport, and took off from there. Stayed
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  Speaker 3: in security, became an investigator, got media relations training, worked
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  Speaker 3: at the special operations and tactics at them all. We
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  Speaker 3: worked with all the I guess if you have an
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  Speaker 3: active shooter or something that was a higher response level,
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  Speaker 3: did a lot of that and mainly just stayed in
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  Speaker 3: that pretty much all my life. Cleat certified over twenty
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  Speaker 3: five years, and I just use a lot of those
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  Speaker 3: skills I learned, and I just tried to apply them
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  Speaker 3: to the crypt is just to you know, see what
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  Speaker 3: we're dealing with.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully no shit, dude, that's freaking cool. So we just
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  Speaker 2: kind of took so basically, this is just your fascination
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  Speaker 2: as well as your experiences connected with your law enforcement background,
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  Speaker 2: and kind of put them together to make whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what this is. This is okay, cool, all right, we
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  Speaker 2: got a nice little stepping So the beginning, how did
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  Speaker 2: this all start for you? What kind of tell me,
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  Speaker 2: you know a little bit about your grandmother's houses that
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  Speaker 2: like tucked away in the woods. What's it like being there?
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  Speaker 2: What was it like being there? Maybe?
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  Speaker 3: Well, she lived in the country, kind of off the woods,
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  Speaker 3: in a on a small farm. She had went through
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  Speaker 3: this with my mom, My mom and her kids, there
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  Speaker 3: was eight kids. My grandpa was a professional logger back
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  Speaker 3: in I guess it'll be the forties and fifties, and
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  Speaker 3: he was in Mexico a lot, so she was at
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  Speaker 3: home a lot with the kids. My uncle had been
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  Speaker 3: to Vietnam and he had taken his girlfriend, which is
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  Speaker 3: now his wife. They would all go out with a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of friends and they would do what they called
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  Speaker 3: spook hunting, right, so they would go out and try
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  Speaker 3: to get scared down in the down in the bottoms. Well,
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  Speaker 3: one particular night they were down there and these two
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  Speaker 3: lights appeared out in the field and he said, they
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  Speaker 3: wasn't sure what they was. And they sat there and
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  Speaker 3: they watched them, and the lights were moving toward them,
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  Speaker 3: and everybody said, you know, we probably should leave. It
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  Speaker 3: was scaring everybody. So they start, they start their cars up,
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  Speaker 3: and everybody's getting ready to leave, and something jumps out
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  Speaker 3: of the tree, lands on his car and then runs
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  Speaker 3: off the front of the car and then off into
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  Speaker 3: the woods. Well, they all left and he went straight
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  Speaker 3: to to granny's house, his mom's house, and that night
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  Speaker 3: they said they heard something growling sounded like a coffee
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  Speaker 3: pot percolating. It was scratching on the house pretty wild night.
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  Speaker 3: Then the next day he gets up and his car
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  Speaker 3: or whatever jumped on his car. The car is covered
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  Speaker 3: in fish scales, and he said it stunk really really bad.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: And from that point on there was just so many
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  Speaker 3: things that they experienced. My mom experienced what she called
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  Speaker 3: a werewoof. There. She was a young girl. They had
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  Speaker 3: come back from buying groceries and they had left her
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  Speaker 3: out in the circle drive asleep while they were carrying
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  Speaker 3: in the groceries. She woke up. She said, she was
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  Speaker 3: going up the sidewalk and to go into granny's house.
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  Speaker 3: It was two large concrete steps that went up into
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  Speaker 3: an enclosed porch that then went into the front room.
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  Speaker 3: It was covered in plexiglassy that the front porch was.
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  Speaker 3: She said, when she went to go up the steps,
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  Speaker 3: she looked to the right and down and it raised
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  Speaker 3: its head up about that far above the steps, and
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  Speaker 3: she said it was it was a warewoff. She said,
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  Speaker 3: that's the only thing I know that I know to
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  Speaker 3: call it. And whenever it had done that, of course,
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  Speaker 3: it scared her really really bad, and things escalated from
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  Speaker 3: that point. So we always figured whatever it was, followed
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  Speaker 3: my uncle back that night, and it just it got worse.
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  Speaker 3: It just continued to get worse.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's a like a classic story that you
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  Speaker 2: hear a lot of times where people are just out
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  Speaker 2: doing whatever they could be, you know, just in the
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  Speaker 2: woods fishing, see something, hear something, find something, get the
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  Speaker 2: hell out of there, and then when again come home,
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  Speaker 2: and then ever since that, you know, from that point forward,
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  Speaker 2: like you were saying, they seemed to have this recurring
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  Speaker 2: oddness happening to U in and around their their house
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  Speaker 2: or and uh, there's a lot of people who have
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  Speaker 2: to get like a preacher out there or have to
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  Speaker 2: rebuke them. I've heard stories where people were getting their
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  Speaker 2: doors pounded on, sitting in their front chair with a
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  Speaker 2: you know, with a shotgun, and it's just it does happen.
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  Speaker 2: It does happen. It's weird.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds like Granny. She would, uh yeah, she would babysit
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  Speaker 3: me and my cousin a lot because my mom and
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  Speaker 3: dad were always working and I'd have to stay down
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  Speaker 3: there nights with her, and it was nothing for us
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  Speaker 3: to stay up all night and she would sit on
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  Speaker 3: the couch she would always sit on the couch and
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  Speaker 3: she had a thirty two semi automatic pistol and she
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  Speaker 3: had a butcher knife and she kept both of those
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  Speaker 3: by her chair. And at nighttime we had a routine.
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  Speaker 3: But this was new to me, but not new to her.
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  Speaker 3: Her and my mom and then when they were kids,
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  Speaker 3: they had a routine that when the sun started to
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  Speaker 3: go down, everybody would come inside. They would lock the doors.
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  Speaker 3: They would they didn't put up they didn't put up
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  Speaker 3: regular blinds. They put up blankets over the windows so
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  Speaker 3: you couldn't see their shadows in the house. Whatever it was, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it would come up to the house and scratch on
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  Speaker 3: the house. Well, I was staying with her one night
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  Speaker 3: and we were sitting in there and we hear like
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  Speaker 3: this knock at the front door, like somebody was you know,
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  Speaker 3: somebody showed up. And we knew at nighttime you didn't
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  Speaker 3: just open the door. So she walked over to the door.
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  Speaker 3: At the top of her door was a wooden door
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  Speaker 3: and have one of those like diamond windows at the top. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: and she pulled you know, you know the old door.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah sure, so yeah, so she looks out the door.
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  Speaker 3: She's like there's nobody out there. So she shuts the
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  Speaker 3: thing she had hanging up there, and it knocks again.
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  Speaker 3: She goes back, she looks out. She doesn't see anything.
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  Speaker 3: She opened the door and she looks out and right
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  Speaker 3: above the door is the roof, you know. So she's
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  Speaker 3: looking out. She doesn't see anybody. As soon as she
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  Speaker 3: shuts the door and knocks, and she said, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: opening at this time. I'm going to call your uncle.
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  Speaker 3: So she calls my uncle, the one was in Vietnam.
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  Speaker 3: He shows up. Of course, he's got his light and
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  Speaker 3: he's gun and everything, and he comes up there and
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  Speaker 3: he's looking around the house and everything. And he comes
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  Speaker 3: in the house and he kind of like gets on
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  Speaker 3: to granny. He's like, don't open that door when you
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  Speaker 3: hear that. And she's like, well, I thought it might
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  Speaker 3: have been you. And he's like, no, if it's me,
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  Speaker 3: i'll you know, I'll let you know, he said. She goes,
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  Speaker 3: there's nothing out there, and he goes, oh, it's out there.
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  Speaker 3: She said, what do you mean? And he said, come
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  Speaker 3: here and look. He took her to the front door,
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  Speaker 3: and on the front door, at the very top there
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  Speaker 3: was look like snot or something like that on the
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  Speaker 3: top of the door. And he told her, he said,
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  Speaker 3: what's happening is it's on top of the house, leaning
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  Speaker 3: over and knocking on the door. And when you opened
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  Speaker 3: that door, it was right there above you, looking at you,
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  Speaker 3: and he's telling her. You know, yeah, it's like you're
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  Speaker 3: hearing this. Yeah, I'm sitting in the front room. And
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  Speaker 3: I was like, you know, oh my god. You know,
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  Speaker 3: but but there was so many things that happened down.
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  Speaker 2: There that.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, I shot something down there and I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what it was.
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  Speaker 2: And my cousin what happened.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So getting older, right, I was probably sixteen or seventeen,
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  Speaker 4: and and me and my cousin we decided, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we thought we were rambo back in the day because
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  Speaker 4: I had a buddy, This dad.
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  Speaker 3: Was in the National Guard and he was a sergeant
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  Speaker 3: and he had all kinds of stuff. Was I think
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  Speaker 3: he was a staff sergeant or something, but he had
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  Speaker 3: uniforms and BDUs and boots and all kinds of fun gadgets.
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  Speaker 3: And we was always running around town and cameo and
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  Speaker 3: Gillie suits and was like, you know what, let's go
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  Speaker 3: down there and catch and catch this thing, right, so
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  Speaker 3: we told my mom my granny had had a stroke
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  Speaker 3: and the girls were taking turns taking care of her.
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  Speaker 3: One would stay like two or three nights and the
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  Speaker 3: other one would come, and they were all just taking turns.
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  Speaker 3: It always seemed to be after my mom the worst,
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  Speaker 3: and we didn't know if that was because she had
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  Speaker 3: the first encounter with it. She was the closest to it.
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  Speaker 3: Not really sure why, but the nights that she would stay,
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  Speaker 3: it was always the worst. And even if she'll go fishing,
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  Speaker 3: she'll have big encounters like stuff a whistle adder and
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  Speaker 3: mess with her. But that night we told Mom, we said,
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  Speaker 3: you go down there like you're alone and give off
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  Speaker 3: the illusion that you're going to be with Granny tonight alone,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and we're going to stay home tonight. We
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  Speaker 3: only lived probably a half a mile down the road
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  Speaker 3: from Granny, and we said we'll slip up in the
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  Speaker 3: darkness and our camo and we're going to catch whatever
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  Speaker 3: this thing is. So we put our gilly suits on
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  Speaker 3: and get all decked out, you know. And the only
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  Speaker 3: gun I had at the time was a four ten
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  Speaker 3: that i'd had with a single shot in Mosburg. My
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  Speaker 3: cousin had a twenty two sim automatic and we were
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  Speaker 3: going to get this thing right. So we go down there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we were heavily heavily loaded, we.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: So we go down there and there's these oil tanks
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  Speaker 3: that set out there on a hill that overlook Grannie's house.
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  Speaker 3: The old ool tanks. They had metal steps that went
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  Speaker 3: up you can get a pretty high vantage point looking
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  Speaker 3: over the property. So we crawled up on those and
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  Speaker 3: we're laying there and when you're looking down at Granny's house,
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  Speaker 3: there's trees all around her house. She has a circle
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  Speaker 3: driveway with a yard light, and the yard light would
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  Speaker 3: shine down through the elm trees, which they would use
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  Speaker 3: for shade, and you could see silhouettes. You could see
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  Speaker 3: pretty good in the yard. It wasn't real well lit.
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  Speaker 3: So we're laying there and we're watching, not really knowing
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  Speaker 3: if we're going to see anything. And me and my
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  Speaker 3: cousin's there and the next thing I know, there it goes.
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  Speaker 3: Something walks around the back of the house and I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 3: did you just see that? And he's like, there's somebody
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  Speaker 3: down here. We're thinking somebody and I'm like okay. So
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  Speaker 3: then we hear the banging on the house like what
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  Speaker 3: we would hear when we was in the house, so
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  Speaker 3: we knew whatever it was was trying to her mom.
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  Speaker 3: It was doing its thing. So we're like, let's sneak
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  Speaker 3: down there and get it. So we crawled down off
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  Speaker 3: the tanks. We're going across the field down toward the house.
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  Speaker 3: We get right to the back of the house where
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  Speaker 3: we've seen it go around the back corner of the house.
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  Speaker 3: It takes off run and it ran down into Grandpa's
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  Speaker 3: hog pasture. Grandpa had raised hogs also. It ran down
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  Speaker 3: on the hog pasture, and this time there was no hogs.
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  Speaker 3: But the hog pasture is full of sandstones, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of rock, and there's a pond that sets down at
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  Speaker 3: the lower end of it. And this pond had dried
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  Speaker 3: up at the time, and it was full of cattails. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: whatever this was, it ran down into those cattails. Well,
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  Speaker 3: we decided to go in after it. So we go
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  Speaker 3: into the cattails. You can't see you're pushing the cattails,
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  Speaker 3: and right where the pond. If the pond got too
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  Speaker 3: Grandpa had like a little had like a little creek,
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  Speaker 3: you had to cut off of it. Where it would
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  Speaker 3: drain back down into the bigger pond. Okay, And there
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  Speaker 3: was a piece of tin, yeah, And there was a
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  Speaker 3: piece of tin Grandpa threw over that. So when the
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  Speaker 3: water was there it was muddy. You could walk across
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  Speaker 3: that tin to get to the other side of the pond,
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  Speaker 3: so you didn't have to walk in the little creek.
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  Speaker 3: We were right there at that area, couldn't see anything.
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  Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, I start hearing heavy
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  Speaker 3: breathing and it kind of sounded like like a gargling noise,
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  Speaker 3: kind of like a heavy breathing, but there was sound
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  Speaker 3: like a lot of liquid in the throat, almost like
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  Speaker 3: an aspiration. And I'm listening to it, and I look
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  Speaker 3: at my cousin and I'm like, it's still in here.
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  Speaker 3: And at that time, whatever it was, it stepped out
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  Speaker 3: in front of me in the dark, and it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: what everybody says. It wasn't huge, It wasn't this monstrous creature.
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  Speaker 3: It was probably my height, nothing super big. I'm five ten,
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  Speaker 3: five to eleven, nothing super big. The only thing I
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  Speaker 3: noticed was the shoulders. It was really thick, really broad,
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  Speaker 3: like abnormally broad. It was really big. And when it
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  Speaker 3: stepped out. I shot it with the four ten point
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  Speaker 3: blank boom shot it. When I shot it, my cousin
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: opened up on it with his twenty two and it fell.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: It fell straight on the tin, just right on that tin,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: just boom, and I thought, damn, we killed it, you know,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: And it just was like wow. So I'm reloading, he's
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: dropping bullets in. It stands up and it takes off
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: running and Grandpa had up from where we was at.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Just up the way a little waist probably fifty yards
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: was a chicken house, and the chicken house was probably
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: ten foot eleven foot tall of pretty good sized chicken house.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: It ran out behind the chicken house well, because we
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: had shot. My mom had heard the gunshots inside the house.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Shed an old LTD car. She starts the car and
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: she drives it around the side of the house and
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: shines the headlights toward the chicken house. Whatever it is.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: I new I got it good because when I looked
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: down on the ground, there was a lot of blood
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: and the blood looked like an arterial bleed. And I'm
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: sure you know what that looks like, that dark oh.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, arterial artery.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like that dark purple looked like real
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: thick jelly looking. I mean it was you could tell,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: you know, like when you hit a deer in the
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: liver you could tell.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: The bird shot of what was then loaded.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: It was bird shot. But yeah, but probably shot it
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: from two foot away.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude. And so what is it? Was
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: it really dark out or what did you what did
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: you see? What did you say you see? You shoulders?
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: What did it?
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Just? The silhouette, Uh didn't didn't look like there was
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: a neck. It looked like a big muscular guy kind
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: of like you know, the rock, you know, I mean
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: this thing was wide like yeah, and I shot, I
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: hip shot it. I didn't have time to put the
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: you know, the rifle up or the shot down. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: just hip I just hip shot it. Just stepped out
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: in front of me and I shot it. Boom and
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: uh it fell, and so I knew that it had
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: to hurt it. And then after we got the car
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: shining the lights down there because we didn't have flashlight,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: we were running around with what we could see from
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: the yard light and went over the car was shining
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: the lights. I told my cousin, I was like, dude,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: check it out. That blood. I mean, I'd hunted all
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: my life, and I knew that when you hit an animal,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: you get either that you know, man, that a bad shot,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: that's you know, it's probably, but when you get that
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: arterial blood, you know that it's a terminal hit. And
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I was positive whatever I hit it was dying, and
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: I reloaded. It ran up behind the chicken house. We
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: got the car lights or shining down on us. Of course,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: my mom, we're young, we're wanting to go up behind
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: the chicken house and finish off what was shot. She's
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: yelling at us, telling us, you get our butts up there,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: you know. And we're like, it's behind the chicken house,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: and she says, get your ass up here. We called
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: your dad, We called your uncle. You know. It starts
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: growling and it starts running its fingernails down the back
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: of the tin of the chicken house. So my dad
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: showed up, and my uncle showed up. My dad was
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: a big guy, my dad and his boots. He was
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: six eight and weighed about three hundred. Yeah, he weighed
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty pounds. He wore sight sixteen and
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: a half wedding green, big ol field worker guy.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so if my dad shows up, my uncle
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: shows up, and we got the lights on the chicken house,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: and it runs from behind the chicken house. But the
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: weird thing was the chicken house. I'm going to say,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: and I wish I could go down to a major
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Now that I'm older, I would say it's ten foot.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: We'll say ten foot, just to be within the My
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: uncle says, my dad's name was Stormy, and my uncle goes, hey,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: storm look at that. And they looked whatever it was
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: that was running away from that chicken house. It was
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: about a head's height above that, and it was running.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: There was an old pond back further than the pond.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I was at probably five hundred yards back over in
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: the back part of the field, and it was running
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: toward that, but it had something over its back and
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: you could see it flopping when it ran over its back.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: And my uncle, I remember, he looked at my dad
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: and he said, because my uncle grew up in it too,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: he said, damn it grabbed a bag of that corn,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: because Grandpa still had some corn out there where he
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: fed the hogs, and the old gunny sacks, you know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: not the paper bags. Now, we had the old gunny sacks,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: and they said, man, it grabbed a bag of corn. Well,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: the next day, my uncle shows up at my granny's
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: house and he walks in there, and of course I'm
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: sitting in there with her. He says, I went home
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: last night and I got to think it. Whatever that
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: was there was probably two and your mom probably saved
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: your ass, right, And I said, I said do what?
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: And he's like, you shot a juvenile and he said
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: it ran up behind that chicken house where it's mama was,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: and if you would have followed it up there, he said,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: it probably would have been real bad. Because he got
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: to thinking about it, and he said, that wasn't corn
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: over its back. It was carrying the one you shot.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Exactly what I was thinking, you know. And I was like, oh.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: But it got worse. It got worse after that, though,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: so so I guess because I heard it, or we
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: had heard it the whole time, my mom and them
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: growing up, the whole time, me growing up down there.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: It had never hurt the livestock or anything. Now, it
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: did attempt to get my cousin one time, but it
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: never did hurt the live stock or anything. That next night,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: after we had shot whatever it was. We're in the
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: house and Granny was sitting there and we were eating
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: and she had one of those tall ashtrays, you know those.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I can't remember what that was, tall o gosh yeah,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, yes, she had that. Oh yeah. That that
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: was her coffee holder, coffee cup holder and that hell
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: and that held her her bowl in the morning, you know,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: for breakfast. They would set it on the on the ashtray.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: So we're all sitting in there eating and it's uh,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: it's dark time and we're eating and then the back
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: door you hear it rattle, and we're like, it's trying
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: the doors again. And every time it tried the doors,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I cried many times down there. I'm not gonna lie
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: as a young kid, I cried. Now my cousin would cry.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: A lot of us cried, you know, a lot of
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: us would cry. And we were sitting down there, and
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: it was started rattling that door and you could hear
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: it like it was testing the door and push on it,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: like just kind of push on it. And the bathroom
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: was right there by that back door. And uh, I'll
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: tell you that story here in a minute. But all
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: of a sudden it sounded like it started trying to
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: the door down. It was just boom, boom, boom, and
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: we'd never had it do that before. I actually thought
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: it was fixing to come inside. I really did. And
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I remember just being terrorized, and I just I remember
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: the fear of hearing that boom. But you know, you're
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: afraid that door is going to open, and if that
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: door opens, it's like, what am I going to see?
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Luckily it didn't. We all stayed in the front room,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: huddled up in the corner like we always did, with
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Granny and her pistol and her butcher knife, and we
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: were sitting there. So the next day, the sun comes
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: up and we would get up pretty early. We was
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: on a farm, so me and my cousin went outside
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: and we would always go let the chickens out. So
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: we were like, let's check the back door and see
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: what the back door looks like. So we go to
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: the back door and when we get to the back door,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the back door is covered in blood. The whole back
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: of the house is covered in blood by the back door,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: just blood and feathers. Whatever it was had grabbed one
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: of Grandpa's roosters and had beat that rooster to death
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: against the back of that house. That's what it was using.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: There was feathers and blood all over the back of
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: that that house.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: And then kind of warning like you you heard something
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: from me, I'm gonna take something from you kind of thing.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it cut it cut one of the pigs,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: is one of his sows. It cut one of their
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: heads off and stuck it on the fence post.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: So what do you mean cut off like that? The
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: head removed, serveted, it was ripped. No, it was just like, look,
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: you took us off and.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Just okay, and threw it on the fast post.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Stuck it on there right where the we had a
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: loading ramp where we're back the truck up to load
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: them into the truck to take him to the sail
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: right there. It just won't put it on there.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fucking crazy. Dude. Do you do you still
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: go there? I mean doing your investigations? What you do? Now?
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: What do you what do you do? Now? We'll get
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: back to the stories. I just want to know now.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Well that's that that That's the weird thing is my
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: granny passed away and it's been several years and when
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: she passed away, it just doesn't. It was another weird
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: thing happened. So it wasn't just wearwoot down there, right,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: It wasn't just this wearwiff looking thing. There was many
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: different things happened there.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Some.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Unexplainable. Some were what you would call or you know,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: flesh and blood. We us kids went through hell, dude. Yeah,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: so we called the Sheriff's department numerous times, and you know,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: because it we get bad. But see, she passed away,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: and when she passed away, I got the house for
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: a while. I was going to stay in the house.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I was going to buy the house, and my cousin
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: was helping me. And back then we didn't have cell phones.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I couldn't afford a cell phone. They were new. Uh okay, yeah,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: it was right where you know, everybody had them, and
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I think it cost you like fifty cents a text,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: you know, to even send a text.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Is there a motor roller or Nicola or whatever? Yea
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: one of those two?
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I had the Nokia or whatever. Yeah,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I think that's what I had. Yeah, So we're so
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I decided, you know, since it was Granny's house, I
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: was like, I'm going to paint it and make it
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: more mine because of the memory. So it was, you know,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: it was a sad filling in there. So okay, we're
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: in the bedroom, me and my cousin. It's probably I
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: don't know, one in the morning something like that. We
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: had the you know, the old wooden windows. We had
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: the old wooden windows up. We're in there painting and
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: we're talking and we're painting and you know, the old
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: paint brush. It had to sponge on it to have
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: the little wheel on it you could go around the
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: door facings and stuff with. Okay, all right, yeah, he
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: was using that and I'm doing the rolling. So I
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: have my back to him. He's doing the windows, and
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: he goes, hey, dude, will you hand me that other one?
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: And I said yeah, I said just one second, let
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: me finish rolling this right here, and he goes thanks.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I said, thanks for what, and he's painting with it.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I said, dude, you got that right. He's like, no,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: you handed it to me. I said, I ain't hand
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: that to you. And he's like, are you serious. I said,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I swear to god, dude, I said, I didn't hand
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: that to you. I had my I had a P
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: nine five I had bought and I had an SKS
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: that I had at the house with this that night,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: and I told him, I said, are you sure, And
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: he said, I'm positive, dude, he said, you handed it
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: to me. I said, let's let's wrap it up. We'll
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: come back tomorrow. So I pulled the window down. The
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: window had those little half moon locks on the top
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: of the Remember you'd turn and lock the windows, you
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: up windows. Yeah, okay, so so I locked that.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: He locks open. So the window was open. Yeah.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We had the windows up because because of the paint,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: So so I'm getting over whatever it was. I guess
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: whatever it was, reached in that window, grabbed that paint
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: brush and handed it to him out of the paint bucket.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, let's just call it off. Let's go
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: home tonight. You know, there's no land lying down there.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: We got no phone. We're just trying to fix the
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: old house up to move into. I shut the window.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: He shuts his window, I lock it, he locks it.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: I turn around. We start walking to the doorway. Granny
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: didn't have doors on her doors for some reason. There
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: was no doors, just the outside doors. The rest of
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: the doors in the house were just opened. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: it was just yeah, it was just opened opened house.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: So no closed doors in my house.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Oh no, we wouldn't.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: No.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I wasn't allowed to either growing up. And I damn
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: sure couldn't have a lock on my bedroom door.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: That was a no one.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I get almost to the to
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: the door and I hear this on the window. I
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: turned around, dude, and I couldn't tell you to this
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: day what it is it was. I don't even know
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: an animal would resemble from from the bottom of the
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: ground outside to the second pane of that window is
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: where its face was eight nine foot probably it was
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: looking through the window at us. It had two eyes
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: on top of almost like on top of his nose
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: that were almost touching each other, really big eyes, a
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: nose that came out and hung down, and it was swinging.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: The nose was like swinging the top mouth right here.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: It had teeth. They weren't like canine. Yeah, they were square,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: like square teeth that went plumb around. But their jaw
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: bottom jaw was way back here. It was recessed and
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: it was opening and shut. It reminded me of a crawdad,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: you know how that little mouthful, like a v looking thing.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: It was doing that and the nose was swinging, and
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: it knocks on the window again, and it was it
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: was red. It was the red furry red hair. And dude,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: we ran to the front room. We got in a corner.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I grabbed my pistol, he grabbed my rifle. We sat
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: there in that corner and you know, just why are
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: we even down here at night? We knew better. And
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: then it starts knocking on the front door, and I said,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: oh my god. You know, we thought it was it's
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: going to get us. So we're pointing our guns at
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: the door, and I'm like, you know what, I owned
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: the house at that time. I was like, I owned
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: this house. I shot the forty five through the door.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I put a hole through that door. I ripped one
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: right through there. And whenever I did, it stopped and
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: the back door started. It started messing with the back door.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Oh so we knew that. Yeah, so we knew that
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: it had went to the back door. Man. We ran
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: out that front door, down that sidewalk. We jumped in
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: the truck. We were gone. But you know, after Brandy died,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: my aunt ended up moving in down there. And to
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: this day my cousin lives there by herself and it's
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: not there anymore. It left when my granny died and
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: the girls stopped going down there.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: It just left. Yeah, there's some kind of weird there's
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: some kind of weird connection to get with that person.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: There's an aphixiation sometimes or they're open to suggestion or
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: whatever it may be. That happened that initial day when
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: he seemed the two lights coming across the field and
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: landed on the hood, So it connected with that family group,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: and then when they kind of dispersed, it dispersed. That
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: is that is I've never heard your description. It reminded
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: me of this Ben and de Poutrine. They're from Quebec,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: and there's there's the drummer. He has this big like
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: head on top of him with a swinging nose or
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: like from or the dude from SpongeBob SquarePants what a
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: squid Worth whatever his name is, kind of reminded me
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: of that. Yeah, it's just I've never heard anything like
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: that before. I've heard I've heard some, but nothing like that.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: That sounds like.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: There was a there was a lot of things happened,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: you know, not just all at once, but throughout the years.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: For instance, there was this guy that grew up with
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: my mom and them, and he was the big football
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: player of the town. You know, he'd kick your ass
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: if you messed with them, the bad boy. You know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: nobody messed with him because he was just a badass,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: you know. So he told my granny, I'll get rid
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: of that for you. It's just an old pervert down
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: there looking at the girls. You know, I'll come down there.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: You know, I'll take care of whatever it is.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: You know, he wasn't scared, and when I catch them,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: you know they won't do it again. You know, that
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: kind of attitude. So Mom said, he came down. He's
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: sitting on the couch eight thirty every night at eight
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: thirties when it would start. Mom said, right on the clock,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: eight thirty. So he's sitting there on the couch. Sure enough,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: eight thirty, boom boom, boom starts beating on the back door.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: He jumps up off the couch, runs out the back door,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: runs around the side of the house. You know, he's
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: going to go back there and take care of whatever
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: this is. They said. It wasn't long he come walking
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: back in that front door, and they said his face
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: was as white as his shirt, and they said he
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: fell on the couch almost pass out. Granny had to
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: get him a wet washcloth. The dude was shaking and sweating,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: and they were asking him, are you okay? What did
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: you see here?
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: He wouldn't tell him. So when I started my channel,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: I got a hold of him okay, and I said,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: would you buy would you buy a chance? Tell me
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: what you saw. He wouldn't want to talk about it.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: He ended up getting sick, and it was around COVID time,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: and he passed away from from COVID. But he sent
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: me a letter, dude, and I read the letter on
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: my channel, like.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: A post mortem kind of letter kind of thing.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: He told me what it was, what he saw, What
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: he saw, Yeah, he said, that night I jumped up
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: and I ran around there, expecting to see a man
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: standing at the back of the house.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: He said.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: When I came around the back of that house, see
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: my granny. When Grandpa was gone, he told her, don't
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: go outside in the dark. Dump your scraps out the
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: back door, and he put an old you know them
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: more long steel hog tross.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: One of them back there, and that's what she would
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: pour the scraps in at night so she didn't have
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: to go outside. He always worried about her. Well. He said,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: when I came around the side of that house, he said,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: there it stood, Mike, he says, where wolf. He said
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: it was standing on its hind legs. He said it
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: was kind of sideways, and he said it was grabbing
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: the food, the scraps out of that hog trough. And
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: he said it was shoving it in the side of
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: its mouth and not in the front, but shoving it
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: in the side of its mouth. And he said the
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: food was running down its fur and everything. And he
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: said when I came around the corner, it nilt its
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: head sideways. He said, like that kind of smiled, and
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: he said it went hello. And he said I ran
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: for your granny's front door as hard as I could run.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: The dude never fished or hunted again and moved to
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: the city. And he said it changed his life. He
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: wouldn't even talk about it. He said, that wasn't.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: When I explained to people. When I try to explain
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: to people, because you know, I live in I've lived
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: in Europe for twenty years. I try to explain to
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: people like people, especially in Germany that's where I live,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: they don't. They're no nonsense people, right, And I try
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: to explain to them, like you know, I have students
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: and I tell them what I do my show, and
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I explained to them and they, yeah, I don't believe
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: in that kind of stuff. And I'm saying, what you
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: don't understand is the American our culture is that we're
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: big into outdoor stuff, fishing, hunting. There's people who do
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: this their whole life. One day, they're forty, they're out there,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: they see something like this, and he never go back again.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: How do you explain that? And it just they essentially
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: can't do it. And then I try to use okay,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: use your right brain, mister German, how does that work
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: When they're say, one thousand reports a year, what's the
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: probability of none of them being accurate? Everyone's lying? He
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: saw that, dude, he saw that. That is yeah, yeah,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: what did it say again? I'm sorry, I'm I.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Was it said hello, it went hello. But dude, these
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: things down there, they would speak. I heard them speak,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: No shit, I've heard them speak. They don't talk, Okay,
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: so they don't have conversation. I never heard them say
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: more than one word at a time. Normally it was
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: a name. So before I was born, Granny was sitting
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: on her couch one night. Didn't have air conditioner, right,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: we couldn't afford those, so it was windows up, doors open.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: She had the front room door open. The front room
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: door went out onto the porch. She had the plexiglass
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: door to the porch. Jumping the porch was two steps down.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: You had a long sidewalk underneath the elm trees that
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: went out to the circle driveway underneath the old pipe walkway. Right.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: So she's sitting there one night, drinking her coffee. She
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: drank probably nine pots of coffee a day. She's sitting
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: there drinking her coffee and it steps out on the sidewalk.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: It's now looking at her right there through the yeah, yeah,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: through the sidewalk, through the doors, and she's sitting on
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: the couch. Her name was Helen. It sticks its hand
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: out and it's got long claws and it starts going
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: hell doing that turner come here. She got up locked
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: up the house, scared a really bad. She called her son.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: He went down there. Didn't see anything, of course, but
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: moving up to my age to where I was staying
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: with my mom when she had had her stroke. My
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: mom said, why don't you sleep where I sleep? And
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: I sleep in the front room tonight, and I was
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: like okay, So I laid her Mom would normally be
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: laying that night, and in the window we'd we'd stepped
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: up a little bit in class. We had got a
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: water cooler, not air conditioner, but a water cooler, you know.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: So we had the old water cooler in the window
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: and we wasn't running.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: It that night.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: It was off, but it was old. And when you're
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: laying there in the bed, you can see the yard
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: light around the water cooler, you know, the light around
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: it and kind of light through it. So I'm laying
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: there and all of a sudden, the light goes dark. Right,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: I'm like, something's at the window. So I'm listening. My
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: mom's name is Kay, I'm laying there, and I hear
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: it go through the window through that water cooler. Okay,
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: start saying my mom's name. So I got up. I
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: had a thirty thirty, then grabbed my thirty thirty, cocked it.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Told my mom what was going on. She's like, okay, okay,
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: just calm down, be quiet. That was the thing was
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: to be quiet at night time. You weren't loud, you
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: didn't make a lot of noise. We just knew, just
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: we just knew because it would follow you from room
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: to room. So we were quiet. I lay back down.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Granny had a brass bell, and I have the lamp
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: right here. We kept the lamp. She had a lamp
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: beside her bed, her bed that it was a touch lamp.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: You could touch it and it was bright. Okay, so
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: so she had that she had Oh yeah, yeah, we
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: was living it up there. And then she had the
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: She had the brass bell and she would ring that
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: bell when she needed us because one side of her
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: body was paralyzed from the stroke, so she would ring it.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: We would go see what she wanted. So we're laying
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: in bed after that had happened, and we hear, you know,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: ding d D dean Dean, Granny ring her the bell.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: I get up in my bedroom. My bedroom has a
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: doorway that goes into her bedroom. My mom's in the
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: front room. There's another doorway that goes into granny's bedroom.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: There's two ways. Yeah, yeah, so I go halfway just
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: to make sure she's okay. Mom walks into her room,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Mom walks out, She goes she must have fell back asleep.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: So we laid back down. Dan de ding ding ding
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: ding Dean. We get up. Grannie's still sleep. We noticed
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: that the window wasn't closed all the way with the blanket.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Whatever it was was ringing like a bell to get
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: my mom to walk past that window where it could
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: see her. It was watching her through that window.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: There's like some spooky paranormal aspects of this whole situation.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: There's like how I'd imagine they would know your names
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: because you call each other by names in the house,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Hey came from here, or you know, et cetera, et cetera.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: But two, it's like it's feeding upon your fears and
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: it's it's like cornering you into your own house and
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: making you change your life, you know, to to fit
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: around your fears. Like it's like it's it's feeding off
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: your fear. It's it's it's it's it's like it's like
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: that is This reminds me of like I think I'm
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: gonna I don't know what I'm gonna call this. This
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: is is this Oklahoma's to all this Oklahoma.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all Oklahoma.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: It's it sounds you hear from like the Inville horror
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: or or something like that. It's still with but with
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Cryptis it's so crazy.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: It still rings a bell me when I go out
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: in the woods and my investigations, I've heard that bell
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: ring down there.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: So what do you do on your investigations? Tell me,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: tell me a little bit about what you do.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: I go out at night and I go down to
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: these areas and I walk, and I do call and
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: stuff and try to call in things.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: This area.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: I've just done a show about a week ago. I
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: done some digging. Anthropologists actually came down here and said
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: that there was something in these woods. There's these woods
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: have always been I guess haunted.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: You're down the road now from where this is. You
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: live close by?
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm actually investigating. See back when all that
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: was happening, that was they flooded the old town underneath
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: the lake. The old town's under the lake, and the
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: new town was moved up. Everything's underwater now, the old town, right,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: so all the old bridges and stuff. My grandma lived
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: down there. They moved her house from there to the
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: new town. And I have the old map of the
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: old town. They had stuff happen down there back then.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: It's all horror of engineer land.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Uh oh, this is reminding me like the lb L man.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Well, it's a Native American history is very heavy.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: The payment grounds. We had the payment grounds down there.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: The United States Cavalry used to trade with the Indians.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: I have found arrowheads, uh, silver snuffholders that are stamped
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: United States Cavalry. I found I got a quarter over
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: here that was a quarter before Washington was president. A
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: lot of history down in here, a lot of a
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: lot of Native American history. We have mild markers on
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: our highway that marked the Indian territory, first Indian chief
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: and all that. I mean a lot of history.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: This is the this is the Creek Indians down that.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Way Delaware and Cherokee. Okay, okay, yeah, Cherokee.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: This is the This is the Cherokee after they moved
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: from western North Carolina, so that area.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, after the trailer tears and whenever they Yeah, they
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: moved him down through Oklahoma.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. My girlfriend, My girlfriend is Mayan.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's cool. Yeah. My g my great grandpa, oh,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: my great grandpa was full blood Mayan, my great grandpa.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, Cherokee, full blood Cherokee. Okay, yeah, yeah, he
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: spoke fluent Cherokee's so cool man. Yeah yeah, he was
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: full blood.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: And we we we got all the stories. But I'll
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: tell you they they say and as and and as
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: long as I've been researching, now I'm kind of finding
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: it to be true. They say that people that have
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: a cryptid encounter, twenty five percent of those people will
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: have a supernatural encounter approximately. Now. I'm friends with Travis Carpenter,
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Scott Carpenter's son. I don't you know, friends? Okay, Yeah,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: I'm really good friends Scott Carpenter had we we kind
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: of done the same thing, had the same belief the
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Nephilum theory of the U. So I always kind of
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: contributed it to if they were Nephylon and there were demons,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: then there would be an interaction of supernatural and physical
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: because they would still be the same lineage. They would
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: be family. Right and down at Granny's they shot at
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: a man and a white T shirt that would float
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: through their pasture. My uncle shot at it with a
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: thirty six several times and they could not hit it.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: Could not hit him. He would just float through the pasture.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: There was a lot of things that happened that were unexplainable.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Light one night. This one scares me, probably from the
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: stories more than any of them that my mom and
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: them told me. So, my granny would go to bed
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: at night. You would go into her bedroom, and then
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: there was three bedrooms. She had her bedroom like her
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: bedroom here. Then there was a bedroom here, and then
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: there was a smaller bedroom in the very back of
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: the house. Excuse me, that's where my uncle would stay.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: The house had burnt, so his back bedroom was a
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: lower roof than the rest of the house. That was
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: probably a six foot roof where that.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Had of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: So he had his own little own little corner back there,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: you know. And inside of the house he had a door,
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: and this door would close to his room because he
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: was the boy and the little you know, the youngest
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: little boys. Give me hell of it. He was in
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: his twenties in but his door he would shut it
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: and it had the little square glass panes in it.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: There was nine of them, three three three, there was nine,
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: and he had the old time lock. It looked like
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: the old egg thing. You'd turn, you know, and it
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: had the big lock, like the claw that would lock
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: yes on the door and you can lock it from
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: very But I just remember all this because it's scared
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: the hell out of you, you know, dude.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I too. At eight, I had a hold
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: the guy's encounter. So that's why I enjoy it. Yeah, yeah,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: that's scared that I had a door slam in my face.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Things touched me here. I bought ten acres out here
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: in the jungle here in Mexico. I've had disembodied voices,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: glowing lights, uh, things whispering in my ears at night.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: So I've had some things here too. And luckily I'm
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: older and doing this now. My people with much more
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: scary experiences make me kind of go, Okay, I know
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: what this is. But when you're young like that, like
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: you're saying, you remember every little detail.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Because when we would walk through the house,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: part of our job, maybe not a job, but just
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: part of what we've done is I knew to look
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: at the window. I sure it's to make sure those
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: I could see those claws in there, you know, make
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: sure it was locked, because that was our safety between
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: the outside and before I was born. My granny had
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: went to sleep. My grandpa was in Mexico working. She
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: slept with the two youngest girls. They would sleep with her.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Then you had the older girls in the middle bedroom,
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: and then her son at the time, he was in
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: the back bedroom at the door I told you about.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: So my aunt wakes up. She looks at the doorway.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Whatever this thing is is standing in the doorway watching
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: them sleep. So instead of waking Granny up, my aunt said,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: I covered up my head because I was scared. So
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: she covers up her head and she's laying there. Then
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: she uncovers her head a little bit later to look
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: and it's standing over the bed looking at him. It's
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: in the house, standing over the bed, looking at him.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: She covers her head back up instead of making it.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: She said, she was just pure pinny.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the that's every kid. Everybody does that.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: It's like that sheet. I don't see you, you don't
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: you're not there. I feel safer. Right, it's completely not true.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, right, And it walks around the end of
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: the bed and there's no doors up, walks around the
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: end of the bed, gets to the bottom of the
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: bed to walk into where the other girls are at,
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: and as it's walking into there, it takes its fingernails
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: and runs them across the bottom of her feet as
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: it walks into the other bedroom.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: What does she describe as things being?
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: She said, whatever it was that was standing there was
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: very skinny. And she said it looked like it had
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: a really long pointed nose, is all she could tell.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: And the next morning, when everybody woke up, she told
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: him you know what had happened. And Granny was like,
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: are you sure you wasn't dreaming? And she said, no, no, mom,
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: it was in the house. It touched me, It touched
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: the bottom of my foot. It had long fingernails. Well,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think Grannie believed her at first until that night.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: They were sitting in the bedroom floor at the foot
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: of the bed, and they kept games under the bed,
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: like Monopoly, and all those chests and all that they
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: would keep them under the bed. They had pulled the
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: game out. They were playing Monopoly, she said, and they
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: hear like this glass sound like this, And they looked
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: down through the center bedroom where he's his room's at,
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: to those little square windows, and there's that thing looking
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: through the square window waving at him. Granny saw it.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: They saw it. They started screaming, wow. Granny ran locked
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: the door. Come to find out, they found out how
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: that thing was getting in. My uncle was smoking in
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: his bedroom and he had left his window open. So
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: whatever it was had found out that he'd left his
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: window open and it was coming through his window at night,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: walking around the inside of the house while they was
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: all asleep.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: You need to put this. You need to put this
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: on a book. I don't know what, but this is
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: this is it's it's like the like it's like the
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Amityville Horrorhouse, but like together with cryptids and they're like
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: just constantly with you. You're like just constantly and like i'd
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: imagine like you have some level of like you know,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: PTSD because of this. I mean you've seen some of
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: this stuff.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've seen I've seen a lot of Yeah.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, like the the mere fact that you have
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: one two foot in front of you and you, you know,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: hit it with the single shot there, Like how do
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: you how have you been able to deal with this,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: like by going doing what you're doing. I imagine being
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: in law enforcement helps you. You know, you got your
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: nice little s O. P. And you're you know all
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: the things you. I love how you said b to you,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: which makes me notice that what time periods you're around
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: my age battles uniforms? Right, Okay, I know what he's
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: talking about, Like, how do you how do you deal
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: with this? How do you how did you like just
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: talking with your number? Were you guys opened up and
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: talk with each other or what.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Do you do?
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Very open, We talked about it all the time. But
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: number one, I just I put God first. I believe
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: that they are from the enemy, and I believe that
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: as long as as long as I keep you know,
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: the blood of Christ on me, his armor on me,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: that it gives me a protection. But I also believe
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: and I think I think Scott Carpenter touched on this
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: and I agree with him also is I think we
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: have a protection to a point. And it's kind of like,
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: you know, a parent will protect you, but if you
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: do something wrong, a parent will also punish you a
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: spanker butt. And you know, the Bible says do not
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: tempt the Lord thy God. And when we go out
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: into the woods or houses or whatever people do and
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: we seek these things out, it's kind of like you know,
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: you stick your hand on the fire and it burns you.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: You know, it burns you, so if you do it again,
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: it's going to burn you again. I think that these
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: things have an him a method of operation. I learned
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: that investigation, and I think that you know, they're UH
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: an opportunist. And the reason I say opportunists a lot
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: of these unattended deaths that we find in the woods.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: For instance, I'll tell you a story that just doesn't
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: add up. Unattended deaths like a death O death Okay, yeah, yeah,
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: like an unattended death. So there was these guys, this
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: is a true story. They decided to go fishing. People
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: die on my lake. Every year. People die down here
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: in my woods every year. They went down there to
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: go fishing, and they didn't come home. So the wife calls,
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: she's scared, my husband didn't come home on kids with them,
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: and there's another guy. So they call for you know,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: a search party of the fire department goes down. My
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: buddy's on the search and rescue.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: They go down.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Me and my cousin volunteered at the time. We went
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: down and we started building fires along the bank, bonfires
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: so they could see to come to the fire, and
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: my buddy ended up finding the two guys. Might now
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: remember I told you the lake was a town. It's underwater, now, okay,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: this they didn't okay, okay, yeah, yeah, so they didn't
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: really move anything out of there. There's all the trees
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: are out there in the lake. You got all filled
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: pipes just under the water level. If you don't know
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: your way around out there, you don't go out there.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: My uncle had showed me everywhere how to traverse the lake.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: My other uncle, you'll be familiar with this, he's a
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: navy seal. He always was teaching me survival and how
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: to read the stars and you know, how to milder water.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: And he was always just putting it in mind in
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: my cousin's head all the time, you know. And so
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: and my other uncle that was in the Vietnam. He
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: was a ranger. So you can see the kind of
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: the raisin I had. I was with them, Yeah, I
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: was with them all. I was with them all the time.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: They you know, always had us in the woods and
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: they're scared us.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: And I got water boarded and everything. But we went
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: down there. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, I was tortured. I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: was yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, because they Yeah, they
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: were unre Yeah we paid the price many times wattle
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: rocket wars and everything. I've got scars, but but yeah,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, they were fun. They were crazy. So we
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: went down and my buddy finds the two guys. The
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: two guys are out in the middle of the lake
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: and they climbed up these old dead trees in the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: middle of this dark lake. National Guard came in and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: they plucked them out of the trees. They ended up
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: finding the two little boys. But here's the weird thing.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: The two little boys were one hundred yards off the water,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: stuck underneath a fallen tree with debris and branches put over.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Them, and they were deceased. Yep. And what did what did?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: What's the story? What did these two gentlemen say?
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: They said they drowned. My buddy didn't buy it at all.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: They were possessed men or something. They did that ship.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how do how do you drowned one hundred feet
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: from the water? One hundred yards from the water, And yeah,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: crawl underneath the log and pull stuff on top of you.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: That doesn't happen.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Scariest place in a lot of America where you're living here, man,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: what do you it it got? This is crazy.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of Colt down here, the Colt heavy cult. Yeah,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: that has always been heavy. Uh. A buddy of mine
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: there's an island down here where they where they practice
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: all the time, and he went down there just to
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: go cat fishing during the daytime, and all of a sudden, man,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: he said, how something gets him in the back of
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: the head and he's got blood running all down in
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: front of him. Somebody shot him in the back of
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: the head with the twenty two while he was fishing.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: What the Yeah, yeah, he survived it. He drove to
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: a neighbor's house up up the road and they, you know,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: got him help. But yeah, the inside of his truck
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: was soaked and blood. They shot him in the back
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: of the head the twenty two. Uh, it's always been
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: a bad place down in there. We actually have a
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: report where the sheriff of our county and the under
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: sheriff done an actual report. It's a postage report that
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: they shot at sasquatching the second story of a barn.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: They said he jumped out of the barn, they shooting
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: at him with their three fifty sevens.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: What the hell, h don't tell definitely, don't tell me.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: You can tell me off camera, but I got to
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: look up, so I know. I don't know if I
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: do ever do a road tripper to make a big detour.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, you know, and that's what a
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: lot of people say. They're like, tell me exactly. But
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: you can't tell people because if you do, people flooded,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: they'll they'll go down there and flood it and they'll
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: be trashed. They'll trash it, right.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I'll send you some stuff I found on
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: my videos.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: The other night, I don't know what it was. Something
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: followed me and everybody said it was a crawler and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: you can see it on camera. That's going behind a tree.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: I've been stalked mountain lion down here. I had a
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: mountain lion stuck me out there one night.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: They have this.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I didn't.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I never I've close.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: I've been to there. I was maybe twenty miles away
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: in Kansas when I was doing funeral detail. I've ever. Yeah,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I used to funeral detail back in the middle there
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: with the folding in the flags. Oh yeah.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: Too.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, we got crocodiles here bro we ha crocodile. Wow.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, there that's an old I got. I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: dude to my property. Jaguars. They come from the northern
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: part on the coast here. I live on the Yucatan Peninsula,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: so they come from the coast. Oh wow, yeah. I
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: come around the back of the city and they come
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: right through my property on their way to the big
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: nature reserve in the south. So I've seen footprints I've had.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: I got pythons on my property. I got tarantula's. Uh,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: all kinds of snakes and coral snakes and all. This
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: place is crazy and you I hate them too. There's
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of spookiness down here where there's a very
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: spooky you know, the combination of like Catholicism mixed with
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: old Mayan where you get like that dastnus wet that
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: stuff and like the dead and they take them out
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: and clean the bones. There's nothing down here to see
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: a skull. It's it's it's very Oh yeah, they got altars.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: Every house has an altar in it with like the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: family members with the crosses and and and and they
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: put like around well, but actually it's really weird. You know,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: two different cultures separated by time, where you have the
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: thirty first of October is Halloween, and then dealing with
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: wet that is two days actually, the first and second
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: in November, and they just go right hand in hand
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: with each other, and it's all in the same time period.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: It's It's one of those places down here too. I've
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: been to pyramids that are like off the map, that
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: are like you go there and you're just like, Okay,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: this is weird. It feels weird. Here I found I
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: found possibly circles in the woods where like it's an
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: old lookout point where like they look down the valleys
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: left and right, I think, and that's what it is.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: You can you can't walk through the woods here about
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: running across some type of ruins. I got some where
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: is it? I got some Mayan pottery right here that
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: I found when I was doing some solar panel building
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: out on the property, uh out on a cattle rage.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: This is actual pottery that I've found underneath the solar
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: This is actual Mayan pottery. So this is one of
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: those places. You know, whatever this podcast decides to take
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: off and people go ahead and like and subscribe, then
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: I can you know, go ahead. I really want to
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: do is like go out into the communities, learn my end.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Because I speak three languages of German, Spanish and English.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: I just want to learn that one little thing and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: then just just go do that and talk to the
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: people and really get their stories, just like the Cheroke
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: you have and the Novo have, the Aztec and the
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: Mayans have those old world spooky things. And it seems
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: that the town or wherever it is that you are
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: somewhere's in Oklahoma, Big Stake good, good enough, I'm assuming
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: not on the Panhandle that's good, the Big Square it's
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: it's crazy. And you so with your channel, you just
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: go around investigating, looking at it through like a like
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: a law enforcements point of view. Are you able to
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: like maybe cut out some of the you know, there's
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: a lot of since uh since sensilization, but where people
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: oh stuff, Yeah, So what do you do? How do
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: you how do you go about your investigations?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: So, you know, one of the reasons I think that
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: I grew so fast, and also it's been a hand
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: er also and I've been attacked plenty for the way
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: I do things, and you know, just my my opinion
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: is we have I'm not going to say names, but
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: we have names in this genre that control the narrative.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: I am a and this was taught to me in school.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: I'm evidence based. When you're an investigator, you have to
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: have tangible evidence to support an idea. So whenever you
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: plead a case to a judge, you can't say, well,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: he told me this happened and I put it down
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: as fact. Right, He's going to say, what do you
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: have to corroborate that? Or you know what? What tangible
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: evidence do you have? What can I see, touch, smell?
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: You know what? What can I prove? And a lot
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: of the stuff opinion allegedly in this field, in my
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: opinion is people are monetarily invested in stories. Yeah, I
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: don't care about the stories. I care about the facts
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: because I'm looking for answers. You know, if somebody's looking.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with entertainment. I love entertainment, but I
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: don't want the entertainment. I want to know what are
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: these why do they do what they do? Why did
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: they put us through hell? Why do they still put
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: us through hell? Why are they still here? And then
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: what I base my work off of is they teach
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: you in school because a lot of people don't know this.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: To be an investigator, it's you're not promoted there. You
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: are offered the position and then you have to go
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: to school and be able to achieve that rank.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, and whenever.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So whenever I did that, I was the youngest
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: captain they'd ever hired. I was a gold captain. I
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: was the youngest that had ever achieved that level. I
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: took every free course they had, Dude, if it was free,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: I took it. But I look at the Bible as
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: my reference point. That is my concrete That's where I
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: start from. And I get to think, and if these
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: creatures are in fact the fallen angels blood and if
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: and I throw if a lot, and if they are,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: then they hate us. We were the biggest slap in
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: their face. I mean, you know, they walked in the
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: glory of God, they knew God, they were there, and
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: here we are, these little humans at sin and fall
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: short of the glory of God every day and God
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: just forgives us and forgives us and forgives us, and
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: they have no hope. So they don't like us, and
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: you know they have That's the biggest slap in their face.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: I've seen a demon, dude, I've seen it. I know
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: they're there. I know they're there absolutely. That's what got
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: me say, that's how I found Jesus Christ.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? What do you mean? What do
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: you mean? I'm not? I am a man of God.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: I just give you a little background. I'm a man
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: of God for sure, but I'm not but I'm not Christian.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: But I'm not Christian. Okay, that may be uncomfortable for
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: some people. My girl, she's my woman. She's Christian, she's
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: staund to Catholic and she but she knows where I
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: come from. I said, if I don't carry the moniker
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: of that, do I still do the same things that
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: that a Christian person would do? She says, you absolutely do.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, you do it even more.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: You just for some reason that's not your thing. I go,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: I have my reasons, right, so I to say that
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: we understand it. Jed. I love listening to your point
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: of view. It's important, it's important. Oh I am, yeah,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: But what about this demon? How do you what? What
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: did you say?
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, so two things that prove to me God was real?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, God's real.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: You know, very tangible person. I was an investigator. I
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: was taught to question everything goes sir. So I get
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: a phone call about eighteen years old. I decided all
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: my life I was going into law enforcement. I knew
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: that was going to be my road. That's what I
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: wanted to do. I had a mentor. His name was
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: Raymond Coffee. He was an officer in our small town.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: He's what started it. God rest his soul. My aunt
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: called me and she said, I need you to come
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: to my house or her husband had had a stroke
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: offs of the time. And I said, okay, okay. She's like,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: there's somebody here and I need you here. She lived
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: in the country. I was like, okay, okay, grab my gun,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: jump my car man beat it to my aunt's house.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: I get to the door, knock on the door, and
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: she said, you don't need your gun. And I said,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: I thought you said somebody was here. She said, oh,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: they are, but it ain't nothing. Your gun's going to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: take care of And I said, what do you mean?
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: She said, come inside. So I went inside and she
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: had four bedrooms and a little small hallway and kind
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: of explain when you walk into the hallway. If you're
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: walking straight ahead, there's a wall here. It had a
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: mirror on the left and the right side was two doors.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: You could go in that door to a bedroom, back
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: to a bedroom, back to a bedroom, back to a bedroom,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: and do a square from that little entryway. And it
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: had a mirror hanging on that wall. That mirror was
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: reflecting a light into the front room on the wall,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: a square light right onto the front room wall. She said,
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  Speaker 3: sat down and look at that reflection and tell me
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  Speaker 3: what you see.
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  Speaker 2: The reflection of the mirror onto the wall, the light
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  Speaker 2: that it reflects.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, she told me to look at the reflection
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  Speaker 3: that was reflecting onto the wall. And I look at it,
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  Speaker 3: and we're sitting there. We're watching TV. You know, the
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  Speaker 3: lights are all out, except for he had a light
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  Speaker 3: on back there, so he wasn't in the dark. That
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  Speaker 3: light was reflecting out of the mirror onto the wall.
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  Speaker 3: So we're sitting there and I see what looks like
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  Speaker 3: a like a thumb or something, you know, like a
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  Speaker 3: shadow come out like just out of the and it
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  Speaker 3: would come out like this and go back. It would
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: come out like that and then it would go back.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought, oh, I know what that is. That's
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  Speaker 3: the phone book. I got up because her phone was
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  Speaker 3: on the wall, the landline, and the phone book always
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: hung underneath the phone, and it was blowing with the fan.
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  Speaker 3: So I took the phone book down and put it
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  Speaker 3: on the table, and I was like, problem solved. So
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  Speaker 3: I sat out. You know, we're sitting there wasn't much
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  Speaker 3: longer than here. It comes out, it goes back. What damn?
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  Speaker 3: So I get up. There was a story before this.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you before this that happened. Before this, I
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  Speaker 3: jumped a little ahead. But uh, after that happened. Being
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  Speaker 3: young as I was, and dumb, i'll call it dumb,
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  Speaker 3: I had to be mister badass, you know, mister tough guy.
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  Speaker 3: So I walked to the to the hallway and where
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: it was coming out of the door was opened, but
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: the door across the hallway was closed. So I opened
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  Speaker 3: the door and said there, if you want to go
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  Speaker 3: through the hallway, go ahead, and I went and sat down.
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  Speaker 3: Shouldn't have done that. The whole head came out into
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  Speaker 3: that reflection, and it wasn't a shadow like you see
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  Speaker 3: on a wall. And I have trouble finding the words
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  Speaker 3: for this. This shadow was more detailed. I could see
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  Speaker 3: the hair was combed. You know, you can see the
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  Speaker 3: hair's comb. You can see the part in the hair.
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  Speaker 3: I can see the nose, I can see the hair.
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  Speaker 3: You know that this is not a normal shadow. And
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: it goes across into the other bedroom. My uncle, who
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: was in that back room had had a really bad stroke.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: He got really really upset that night, really upset and
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you more off camera about that, but really upset.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: And we called my mom because at the time I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't saved. And my mom came and my mom brought
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: the Bible and told it to leave in Jesus name,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: and it left. But our ears were on fire, and
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: you'll he passed away. Butt it that way. I feel
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: like it came and took him. But our ears were hot.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: It was hard to breathe. But before that it even happened,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: my cousin had a teddy bear on his dresser before
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: this night, and my cousin started living with us because
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: he was afraid to live in that house. He saw
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: a man standing in the bathroom and stuff. But the
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: teddy bear that was on his dresser, he said, waved
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: at him one night and he woke up one morning.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: He would always come to our house when he would
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: stay at his moms, and he would come to our
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: house around noon. And he came to the house one
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: day and he told my mom he said, hey, look, Kay,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: look at this Kay. And he raised his shirt up
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: and it looked like a little baby handprints and slapped
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: him all over his body all night long, and that
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: house I stayed all night there. One time, when I
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: was younger, I had to have my mom come to
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: get me because I got too afraid to stay there.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: I was laid in the floor and the kitchen table
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: the chair slid out and then a glass of water
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: slid across the table. Oh yeah, I couldn't handle that.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: I've seen that stuff now.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: I left.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: And you know that you've heard of the hat, then
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: I've seen that thing across in front of a doorway
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: in Germany, when I was in a practice room, I
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: heard walking down the hall and I thought it was
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: just another person going to a different bandroom. Was a
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: place where a bunch of bandrooms in. It was called
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: the Power Tower. And it's an old pre World War
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: two building and like almost it's it's condemned now. But
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: when I was there was still, and I heard it
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: didn't pay no attention of talking to my bandmates. And
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: then I look over into the doorway where the light
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: shines out of the room through the hallway onto the
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: other wall on the other side. So it made like this,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: not a square, but like a rumbus shape. And I
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: swear to due it was taller than the doorframe. But
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: you see the shadow just walk right across the door
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: with the hat, whole nine, with the duster everything. And
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know what a hat man was. Then
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: I told somebody that they, oh, yeah, you saw a
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: hat man, And it didn't scare me. Man, But I've
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: seen these things. I've seen things move too. My sister said,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: we used to had the Alf doll, remember the alf
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: dolls when you were a kid.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: Alf.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: She actually said that when I was talking about the
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: boulder guys. She said she saw it dancing. So when
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: your cousin or whatever that was, he said, he seemed
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: that fucking struck a chord with me. Man, it is a.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: It is a.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: It's the damnest thing. It's the damnest thing. Man.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: Well, when I was little, I thought I was crazy
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: because I would get up and I was like ten
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: years old, maybe something like that, and I would wake
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: up Burnonville the night and I would always go to
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: my mom and dad's room, and my dad would let
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: me sleep by him. So I go to his at
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: the bed and I'd crawl up there and you know,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: and dadd I'd lay on his arm, he'd cover me up.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: We'd go to sleep. I was going in there one
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: night and my dad had one a lion at a circus,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: and it was like a glass porcelain lion, and it
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: had one pall up and it kind of set, you know,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: by the door. M and then grabbed me one night
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: by the leg and wouldn't let me go, and I
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: was scared to death. But later I thought maybe it
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: was a dream, you know.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: But then but then it happened to my sister the
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: same thing, So we got rid of that. Yeah, it's
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: it's gone, Yeah, it's yeah.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: You ever heard of picture You ever heard of pictures
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: talking to people a picture on a wall?
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: No, but I have heard where a person would leave
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: the home and come back and the pictures would be
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: upside down in the frames.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: I've had one where a picture was talking to a person.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: I know, well my dad and it was an Indian
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: and it was asking my dad who his family was,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: what our names were and everything.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, I'm not going to deny something dark
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: to deny the light. To accept the light, you have
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: to accept that there's dark as well in this world.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and go inside the yin yang whatever you
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: want to call it?
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: Day night?
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Have you said hot? Warm?
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: Cold?
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: You know it's all there and and uh you just
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: keep fighting, you know, before I get you up out
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: of here? Man, where can people find you so they
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: can they can likely be what it is that you're
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: through your eyes?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: Uh, just abnormal investigations on YouTube and I got Facebook.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: Uh that's pretty much where I do everything. You know,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: maybe sometime I can have you over on the show
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: and we can talk about a lot more. I've got
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: some things that will probably blow your mind that found.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: There's no invitation that you can come back on this
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: one as well, or I go through on yours. You'd
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: be about my experiences. We can do all those things
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: because oh yeah, because a lot of people still feel
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: I mean as a little child, as a young child,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: as myself when I told my parents these things, he
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: told me to go to back to bed because they
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: didn't they didn't believe it. And when when we're our
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: age now and we talk about these things that make
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: people not feel so alone, and they find those weirdos like.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, you know, I tease everybody, and I always say,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: you know, the devil scared the hell out of me. Literally,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: I got saved because I saw that.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: Fantastic you know.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: So if I would have never saw that, I may
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: have never got saved.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was in a very dark place, man, And
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: when I found God, I was in a very dark place,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: you know I was. And it was just something. I
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: was fitting a deep waring woods in the morning, cold,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: the sun wasn't even up yet, meditating and like the
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: sun was coming up, and all of a sudden, it's
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: like this knowledge of like you were wrong the whole time.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: I was an atheist for many years, okay, many years.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: And and you call it saved. I call it like confidence,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: recognization of your place in the world, in the universe.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: And we are talking the same language, different words, and
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: it's been our leisure. You are such an awesome dude, man,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: and we have a great reform. It was awesome.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it was an honor, been here. I
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: really love being here. I can help you, yeah yeah.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: And if I can help you anyway, let me know.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: Feel free to on my Facebook page if you want
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: to join up over there, post your stuff over there.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: I'll pre approve you. Man, what you can just post
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: on there, put your stuff out there.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: Stay with mine. Man, you can come over to the
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: I Jupiter I something you want to go ahead and
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: let people look at you can do the same thing, man,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: open invitation any time, and I would definitely take you
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: up on coming on yours ago for sure. Just let
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: me know when.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, man, I'd love to have you all right.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: That's that's remember, guys. I hope you guys enjoyed this episode.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: We are the Eye, we are aware, and I love
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: you all later.