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Sharri | 2 July · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Good Evening. I'm Caroline Marcus filling in for Shari. The
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Speaker 2: Royal Commission descends into face, allowing a pro Palestine activist
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Speaker 2: to blame Israel and Jews for rising anti Semitism. Marnie
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Speaker 2: Pearlstein will join the show just into Alan records her
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Speaker 2: lowest ever approval rating as one nation overtakes the major
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Speaker 2: parties in Victoria for the first time. My panel, Holli
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Speaker 2: Hues and Jenny Clark will be on to discuss, and
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Speaker 2: Karl Stefanovic uses a new interview with British broadcaster Piers
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Speaker 2: Morgan to unload on his former employer nine.
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Speaker 3: If the product is becoming so beige because they're so
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Speaker 3: worried about lowback from advertising or whoever this mob is
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Speaker 3: that you end up on air with a beige person nowadays.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Moran will be on to dissect that and tell
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Speaker 2: us the celebrity Karl may be working on his next
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Speaker 2: project with but first tonight, this Royal Commission into Anti
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Speaker 2: Semitism is now in dangerous and serious danger of descending
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Speaker 2: into face. Today it gave precious time in the witness
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Speaker 2: box to Sarah Schwartz, a far left pro Palestinian activist
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Speaker 2: who also happens to be the executive director and co
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Speaker 2: founder of the fringe anti Israel group, the Jewish Council
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Speaker 2: of Australia. Yes, this is the same group that took
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Speaker 2: out full page newspaper ads earlier this year opposing the
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Speaker 2: visit of Israeli President Isaac Hertzog to support the Jewish
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Speaker 2: community here in the wake of the Bonnai massacre. This
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Speaker 2: took the form of an open letter, which it turned
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Speaker 2: out had been signed by dead Nazi elaborators translations of
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Speaker 2: Hebrew slurs and Australian Jews who say they never put
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Speaker 2: their names to it. As one Jewish woman wrote on
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Speaker 2: social media after her husband's name was falsely included in
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Speaker 2: the signatories, if there was ever any doubt as to
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Speaker 2: the moral bankruptcy of the sham Australian Jewish Council, look
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Speaker 2: no further than this ad in the Age and the
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Speaker 2: Sydney Morning Heralds. Schwartz's group said the fake names had
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Speaker 2: slipped through the cracks of their verification process, but nine
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Speaker 2: said it was deeply concerned and the ad was pulled
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Speaker 2: from at least one of its Masththead's digital editions. The
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Speaker 2: group has also been criticized by The Jerusalem Post for
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Speaker 2: co signing a statement with the Australian National Imam's Council.
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Speaker 2: The Jerusalem Post pointed out that a member of the
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Speaker 2: council's executive committee, Australia's Grand Mafti ibrahimiou Mouhammad, is a
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Speaker 2: member of the quitar based International Union of Muslim Scholars,
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Speaker 2: founded by Yusuf al Karadawi, widely regarded as the Muslim
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Speaker 2: Brotherhood's spiritual leader. The ground Mufti's reported links with this
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Speaker 2: exiled Egyptian sheikh have previously set off alarm bells back
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Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen. After all, Karadawi has publicly supported suicide
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Speaker 2: attacks on Israeli civilians and called the Holocaust divine punishment
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Speaker 2: of Jews, and the Moslim Brotherhood itself is a fundamentalist
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Speaker 2: Islamist group that is banned in several countries. Schwartz also
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Speaker 2: faced widespread backlash for a slide she presented at the
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Speaker 2: Queensland University of Technology symposium last year titled Dutton's Jew
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Speaker 2: which she described as Jews who hate Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims.
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Speaker 2: And are anti immigrant, among other slurs. Schwartz claimed she
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Speaker 2: was referring to Peter Dutton's conception of Jewish people as
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Speaker 2: if that's much better. Schwartz actually had the hide to
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Speaker 2: call legitimate outrage over that an offensive smear campaign by
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Speaker 2: the Murdoch Press Peak Jewish representative body, the Executive Council
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Speaker 2: of Australian Jury, has described Schwarz's group as a micro
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Speaker 2: group which represents only a thin sliver of opinion on
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Speaker 2: the far left margins of the Australian Jewish Community. Commissioner
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Speaker 2: Virginia Bell herself assured the public on the first day
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Speaker 2: of public hearings back in May that Schwartz's organization would
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Speaker 2: only be granted limited leave, at least in that first block.
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Speaker 4: I'm satisfied that these organizations represent the majority Australian Jews.
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Speaker 4: I have granted limited leave to the Jewish Council of Australia,
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Speaker 4: which represents a distinct but much smaller section of the
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Speaker 4: Jewish community.
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Speaker 2: But even though her credibility might be dubious on her
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Speaker 2: own figures, on Schwartz's own figures, and we know that
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Speaker 2: the group has the proven inability to verify information but
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Speaker 2: even on those figures, the number of people who have
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Speaker 2: engaged with the Jewish Council would represent just two percent
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Speaker 2: of the Australian Jewish population. Now that figure gets even
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Speaker 2: smaller when you account for the fact many of the
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Speaker 2: people who have supported the group aren't even Jewish. So
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Speaker 2: keep all of that in mind when considering why Sarah
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Speaker 2: Schwartz was the first witness called in today's Royal Commission hearing,
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Speaker 2: where she predictably used her time on the stand to
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Speaker 2: blame anti Semitism on the far right news corp and
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Speaker 2: Jews themselves or while ignoring the jew hatred that festas
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Speaker 2: in her own far left, progressive and pro Palestine movement.
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Speaker 5: I spoke about abuse that I received from both far
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Speaker 5: right and neo Nazi actors, but also from pro Israel advocates.
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Speaker 5: Those actors target Jewish people like me who stand up
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Speaker 5: for Palestinian freedom and justice.
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Speaker 2: Like so many on the hard left, Schwartz points the
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Speaker 2: finger at Israel for putting Jews here in danger.
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Speaker 5: The state of Israel and the State of Israel's actions
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Speaker 5: towards Palestinians is something that makes all of us less safe.
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Speaker 2: You see, to these people, everything is Israel's fault, even
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Speaker 2: when it's Islamic terrorists who kill Jews in the Middle
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Speaker 2: East or allegedly at Bonnight Beach outside side the Royal Commission.
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Speaker 2: Schwartz was quick to downplay the hatred within the pro
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Speaker 2: Palestine movement when asked by our reporter Matt Taylor about
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Speaker 2: the Opera House riot two days after the October seven attacks,
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Speaker 2: before Israel had even retaliated against himas.
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Speaker 3: What's your students with what happened to act the Opera
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Speaker 3: House after seven?
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Speaker 2: Where a.
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Speaker 5: Similar chats that went out that.
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Speaker 6: Were really My understanding of that incident was there were
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Speaker 6: a small number of actors who were immediately kicked out,
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Speaker 6: and the rally organizers, you know, don't condemned that.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, if this is the kind of person the Royal
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Speaker 2: Commission is taking evidence from, I can't say I'm feeling
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Speaker 2: overly confident. I already told you on the last show
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Speaker 2: how former Attorney General Mark Drapers had used his submission
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Speaker 2: to the Commission to talk about what he called the
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Speaker 2: most pernicious example of anti Semitism. He suffered criticism from
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Speaker 2: me that he was acting like a Nazi collaborator by
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Speaker 2: preferencing the Greens after he quite rightly had condemned them
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Speaker 2: for helping to whip up due hatred in this country.
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Speaker 2: Also giving evidence today, E Safety Commissioner Julie Inman Grant,
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Speaker 2: the woman nicknamed the Australian Censorship Commissar by Elon Musk
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Speaker 2: and a zealot for global takedowns by Republican Congressman Jim Jordan,
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Speaker 2: who I revealed last year was demanding she testify before
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Speaker 2: US Congress over how our laws here are threatening the
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Speaker 2: free speech of Americans, let alone Australians here. Inman Grant
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Speaker 2: today told the Commission there had been two distinct spikes
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Speaker 2: in anti Semitic content online, the first after the October
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Speaker 2: seven terror attacks in Israel in twenty twenty three, and
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Speaker 2: the second after the doxing of six hundred Jewish creatives
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Speaker 2: from a WhatsApp chat in February twenty twenty four. Doxing
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Speaker 2: that was spearheaded it should be noted by hard left
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Speaker 2: anti Israel activists. The E Safety Commissioners said she had
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Speaker 2: commendably fought hard with x to have gruesome post mortem
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Speaker 2: footage of the Bonnie attack removed, only to be told
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Speaker 2: by the platform. It was no worse than a Gore movie,
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Speaker 2: but it was real. Real people were killed there inmand Grund. Also,
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Speaker 2: though couldn't resist engaging in the same game. The government
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Speaker 2: often plays unable to focus on anti semitism without reeling
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Speaker 2: off a number of other hatreds, including Islamophobia.
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Speaker 7: I would say all forms of heat speech, from anti
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Speaker 7: Semitism to Islamophobia, to targeting LGBTQI plus community, First Nations,
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Speaker 7: community disabled community has It's never been a more toxic
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Speaker 7: or caustic environment.
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Speaker 2: While there is no doubt there is a lot of
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Speaker 2: vile anti semitism online and particularly on X we need
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Speaker 2: to balance protecting people and especially children, with valid free
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Speaker 2: speech concerns. We've already seen how the concept of E
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Speaker 2: safety was weaponized against a single mom from Western Sydney
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Speaker 2: who questioned why a Melbourne primary school needed a queer club.
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Speaker 2: After a two year and two hundred and fifty thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars legal battle funded by you the taxpayer, Selene Bomgarden
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Speaker 2: successfully challenged the takedown of her post. If the E
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Speaker 2: Safety Commissioner's powers are to be expanded, I'd be very
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Speaker 2: concerned about who they'd be used to silence. Not least
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Speaker 2: because if people like Sarah Schwartz have their way, it
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Speaker 2: would include journalists that news corps like us. Well, let's
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Speaker 2: go to Victoria now, where Premier Jacenta Alan has taken
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Speaker 2: a dive in the latest polls. The premier's approval rating
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Speaker 2: has sunk to a historic low of negative forty two percent.
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Speaker 2: That makes her one of the most unpopular state leaders
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Speaker 2: on record. It comes as One Nation who overtakes Labor
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Speaker 2: and the Coalition for the first time in the state,
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Speaker 2: leading by one point on twenty seven percent. Joining me
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Speaker 2: to discuss is the former Liberal senator who has now
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Speaker 2: joined One Nation, Holly Hughes and culture writer for The
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Speaker 2: Australian Jenna Clark. Welcome to both of you. Look, I'll
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Speaker 2: start with you, Holly. I'm sure these results probably won't
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Speaker 2: come as a surprise to you. I mean, it sort
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Speaker 2: of validates the path you've taken. That a lot of
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Speaker 2: other people are feeling disenfranchised with the major parties, but
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Speaker 2: to happen in the progressive state of Victoria for One
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Speaker 2: Nation is quite outstanding.
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Speaker 8: Well, I mean the fact they've just seen to Alan,
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Speaker 8: it's now completely gone to ground. When it looks at
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Speaker 8: what's been happening with the CFMAU and any of the
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Speaker 8: corruption around the Big Belt. Now she just won't even
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Speaker 8: face the public. But the fact that her numbers are
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Speaker 8: so dismal that John Kerner looks like she's having a
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Speaker 8: good day compared to just into Alan. And you know
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Speaker 8: this is not a surprise though, because I think, you know,
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Speaker 8: all Australians are starting to look at Victoria and think,
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Speaker 8: if Victorians reelect this Alan government, then quite frankly, I
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Speaker 8: think we should look as Australians how we excize Victoria
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Speaker 8: because they are, without a doubt, just the most self
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Speaker 8: destructive state in the nation at the moment. But the
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Speaker 8: fact that one nation is outpolling the coalition and I
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Speaker 8: think this is where the Liberal Party in Victoria really
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Speaker 8: needs to have a look at themselves. I know they've
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Speaker 8: got a meeting tomorrow night, but the self inflicted wounds
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Speaker 8: that they insist on maintaining and keep inflicting on themselves
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Speaker 8: is just breathtaking.
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Speaker 2: And at a time.
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Speaker 8: When Victorians alone, all Australians are crying out for better government,
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Speaker 8: the fact that the Liberal and Victoria is now tearing
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Speaker 8: itself apart again, I mean it's frightening.
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Speaker 2: Well, we'll come back to that more deep topic and
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Speaker 2: a moment. I mean, Jana, some people might say the
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Speaker 2: Liberal Party is spanning a bit too much time looking
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Speaker 2: at itself, a bit too much naval gazing here, But
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Speaker 2: do you think Justinto Allan needs to be concerned about
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Speaker 2: this a few months out from the election? I mean,
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Speaker 2: One Nation doesn't have yet a leader in the state.
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Speaker 2: I spoke to hess and Russell on a show last
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Speaker 2: week and he's ruled out running as leading the Victorian campaign.
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Speaker 2: They don't have a lot of candidates that they've floated.
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Speaker 2: Do you think that needs to be concerned from Justin
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Speaker 2: to Alan about this?
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, Carol. I think it's interesting that she's basically losing
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Speaker 9: to an empty chair at this point in time. As
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Speaker 9: you say, it doesn't have a state parliamentary leader and
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Speaker 9: there's only one solitary Upper House member for One Nation
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Speaker 9: and they're still outpolling the government, albeit a very tired government.
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Speaker 9: And the fact that I think the only thing that
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Speaker 9: just to Allen wants to talk about is the fact
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Speaker 9: that the pubs will be open for the soccer oo's
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Speaker 9: match over the weekend. It's really telling that she is
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Speaker 9: grasping at all straws. And I think I'm with you, Holly.
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Speaker 9: If Victorians decide to re elect this government, the whole
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Speaker 9: of the country should just be shaking their heads with
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Speaker 9: shame because and I think that the owners then falls
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Speaker 9: on the actual opposition. They need to stop being political
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Speaker 9: massacus and political naisis and focus on their job at hand.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw that press release ping into my inbox
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Speaker 2: today about the pub staying open. It was a strange
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Speaker 2: thing to focus on how many people will be in
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Speaker 2: the pub at four am.
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Speaker 8: We're not opening the pub at three am in the morning.
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Speaker 8: New South Wales government has given us permission to do it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, not happening. I don't think they're taking that money frankly.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, let's return to the Victorian Liberals who continue
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Speaker 2: to remain focused on themselves, as I say, instead of
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Speaker 2: shaping up as a viable opposition to this Allan government
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Speaker 2: leader Jazz Wilson had spoken out after MP Moira Deemon
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Speaker 2: refused to apologize to colleague Matthew Guy over her assault
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Speaker 2: accusation against him, which has since been dismissed by police.
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Speaker 10: I think that Matthew deserves apology that police investigated this
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Speaker 10: amount of thoroughly have his evidence, and it was determined
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Speaker 10: by Victoria Police that no offense was Detective Matthew is
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Speaker 10: a decent person. His reputation has been impacted by this recruit,
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Speaker 10: and I think he deserves an appulging. I've made excy
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Speaker 10: to work.
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Speaker 2: Deeming's future with the party is now unclear, as party
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Speaker 2: leaders planned to meet tomorrow to discuss that possible endorsement. Jenna,
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Speaker 2: there's been so much mess around this. First, how Deming
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Speaker 2: was treated by John Persudo. She ultimately won her defamation
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Speaker 2: case against him. Another bloke was pre selected over her
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Speaker 2: and then turned out then dropped by the party because
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Speaker 2: he turned out to have written a character reference for
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Speaker 2: a sex offender. But now this whole ugly episode, should
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Speaker 2: the party stick with her or do you think they'll
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Speaker 2: end up disendorsing her.
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Speaker 9: It's going to be very interesting to see the leak
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Speaker 9: that come out of that conversation tomorrow night. I think
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Speaker 9: look more redeeming has a way of finding herself, finding
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Speaker 9: the drama. The drama does it seem to gravitate towards her?
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Speaker 9: There has been I've spoken to a number of people
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Speaker 9: within Victorian the Victoria and the Liberal Party, and even
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Speaker 9: outside because she is also being helped by someone that
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Speaker 9: has connections to the West Australian Liberal Party. The fact
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Speaker 9: that potentially she might have been looking for an out
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Speaker 9: from the Liberal Party to potentially jump ship and join
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Speaker 9: One Nation. Pauline Hanson has ruled out that she doesn't
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Speaker 9: want her part of her team moving forward. So it's
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Speaker 9: going to be interesting to see what is next for
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Speaker 9: Moy Redeeming in her political career because at the point
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Speaker 9: is one in time, she seems to be up a
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Speaker 9: bit of a creek without a paddle or a party
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Speaker 9: at this stage.
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Speaker 2: Well, Holly, I wanted to ask you about that. I
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Speaker 2: see you nodding your head. As Dennis speaking there, there
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Speaker 2: were rapports that she'd had conversations with One Nation before
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Speaker 2: ultimately deciding to stick with the Liberals through this pre
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Speaker 2: selection fast Now it's being said that One Nation won't
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Speaker 2: have her back, won't consider her again.
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Speaker 8: Is that true as far as my understanding is, and
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Speaker 8: I think that that's absolutely the right path for One
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Speaker 8: Nation to go. Paulane's made very clear to me, but
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Speaker 8: she's also made very clear publicly that opportunists, that people
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Speaker 8: are looking for a political scapegoat as they look down
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Speaker 8: the future of losing their seats. Possibly Pauline's just not
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Speaker 8: going to be the raft in the ocean for them.
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Speaker 8: And my understanding is that no mayor deeming will not
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Speaker 8: find a home in one nation. And quite frankly, I'm
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Speaker 8: pleased for that. I don't think we need someone going
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Speaker 8: into both Victorian and state and New South Wales state
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Speaker 8: elections that, as Jenna says, seems to have a knack
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Speaker 8: for finding the drama.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think sometimes the drama does find her. I
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Speaker 2: mean it's I don't think, I don't know. We all
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Speaker 2: saw that video in this case, the PURSUITO, yes, but this.
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Speaker 8: Was you know, it's almost like how many times does
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Speaker 8: lightning strike?
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't hold responsible for that.
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Speaker 8: I think if she'd have just putting good girl pants
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Speaker 8: on and apologized to Matthew guy, maybe a different outcome
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Speaker 8: and the damage that could have been done. And I
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Speaker 8: think Justina Allen and the Interney General in Victoria as
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Speaker 8: well condemned Matthew prior to the police investigation concluding.
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Speaker 11: And you know that's not right.
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Speaker 8: You know, you might have a believable woman we know
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Speaker 8: as conservative women, we're the wrong kind of women to
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Speaker 8: be believed. But you know, not all women, you know
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Speaker 8: also a faultless in the allegations they make. Not all
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Speaker 8: men are guilty, and Matthew deserved an apology.
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Speaker 2: Well, we will see what happens tomorrow at that meeting. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: it's been revealed that a renewables influencer, Sarah Aubrey, was
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Speaker 2: paid three thousand dollars of tax payer money to spook
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Speaker 2: snowy Hydro two point zero. Here is part of what
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Speaker 2: she came up with.
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Speaker 12: So when the sun is shining and the wind is blowing,
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Speaker 12: renewable energy, we've got loads of it in this country.
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Speaker 12: In fact, we've got fighting much and it goes to waste.
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Speaker 12: We're going to use it to pump water all the
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Speaker 12: way up middle of the day, when it's all happening
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Speaker 12: all the way up here. And this is your big battery.
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Speaker 12: This is where you store that water for later later on,
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Speaker 12: when the sun's not shining and the wind's not blowing.
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Speaker 12: That water, by the power of gravity can run all
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Speaker 12: the way down here back to the power station. The
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Speaker 12: turbines turn the opposite way, generating electricity down those transmission lines.
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Speaker 13: Tickertyboo.
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Speaker 2: Aubrey also described the project as good value for money. Holly,
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Speaker 2: First of all, what the heck is of renewables influence?
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Speaker 8: I was hoping you could help me out on that
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Speaker 8: because I have absolutely no idea. You know, I'm all
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Speaker 8: for a good liftstick and trying to get a hair
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Speaker 8: appointment before anyone says me an asking message today. I'm
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Speaker 8: aware of that, But a renewables influencer not something I'm
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Speaker 8: familiar with at all. But the fact that this government
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Speaker 8: is spending money on a social media influencer to tell
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Speaker 8: six hundred thousand of her followers what a great project
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Speaker 8: this is when and even the National Audit Committee officers
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Speaker 8: said it is absolutely without governance and blowing out.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely out of control. I mean, this is almost the.
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Speaker 8: Greatest white elephant Australia has ever seen, and yet they're
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Speaker 8: still spending good taxpayer dollars for this kind of rubbish.
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Speaker 2: Jenna, I want to talk quickly about this before we
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Speaker 2: have to go the midwinter ball in Parliament. One columnist
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Speaker 2: has described it as the Metgala for ugly which is
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Speaker 2: a bit harsh.
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Speaker 8: That's politics show business for ugly people exactly.
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Speaker 2: You know, there were the usual designer dresses you see
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Speaker 2: at these things, and as also the protest dresses like
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Speaker 2: Labor MP Josh Burns's partner, who is a Victorian Animal
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Speaker 2: Justice MP. She was wearing a defund dog racing dress.
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Speaker 2: You can see it on your screens now. But it
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Speaker 2: was the charity auction that didn't end. How Anthony albaneze
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Speaker 2: he probably wanted to Joseph Daoud, who has fiercely criticized
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Speaker 2: the tax reforms with Billboard's one. The bid for a
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Speaker 2: private tennis match with the Prime Minister just for sixteen
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Speaker 2: five hundred dollars, just a mere bit of small change.
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Speaker 2: I dare say, though it's going to be one uncomfortable
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Speaker 2: tennis match for the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 9: I think Olbow is probably going to tank like Serena
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Speaker 9: Williams did in her wild Card, and we wouldn't. I
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Speaker 9: think he just wants to get in, get out, enjoy
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Speaker 9: your pim fellows you can have. There's sixteen thousand dollars
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Speaker 9: worth of pyms here on the taxpan funded tennis called
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Speaker 9: at the lodge and get out. But again I don't
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Speaker 9: think this is rude. It's it's not the metgal of
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Speaker 9: ugly people. It is the logi for logis for legislators.
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Speaker 9: Apoliticians are not.
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Speaker 2: That's very diplomatic of you, Jenna. I'll pay you that, okay,
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Speaker 2: Olli Jenna, thank you so much, Carol. Time one nation
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Speaker 2: is continuing to dominate in the polls, and not just
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Speaker 2: in Victoria. One view is this is because voters rightly
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Speaker 2: have concerns about the net zero obsession. Well, Chris Bowen
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Speaker 2: has stuck his head even firmer into the sand to
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Speaker 2: claim that the quiet majority of Australians actually want action
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Speaker 2: on climate change, even saying Australia will benefit from him
22:06
Speaker 2: being in charge of the COP thirty one summit. Joining
22:09
Speaker 2: me to discuss this further is National's leader Matt Canavan. Matt,
22:14
Speaker 2: this majority must be very quiet because the polls suggest
22:17
Speaker 2: Australians are rejecting this push as well a lot of
22:20
Speaker 2: other policies from the government.
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Speaker 14: Look, I think what most Australians want to see is
22:26
Speaker 14: the cost of living go down. That's very clear from
22:29
Speaker 14: the polls and it's very clear to any public representative
22:33
Speaker 14: that is out there talking to their electorate.
22:35
Speaker 1: For sure.
22:35
Speaker 14: It's the feedback I get. People are just gobsmacked in
22:38
Speaker 14: this country. Now about how much basic things cost. I
22:42
Speaker 14: mean all of us have that experience. Now, you go
22:44
Speaker 14: to the checkout, or you're often scanning things yourself these days,
22:49
Speaker 14: you can see the numbers out up and you look
22:51
Speaker 14: down at your trolley and you look back at the
22:53
Speaker 14: screen and you just can't understand how you've racked up
22:56
Speaker 14: fifty bucks with just a few items. What's going on
22:58
Speaker 14: with this country? I just checked Carolyn actually checked this
23:02
Speaker 14: for a speech in the Senate just before. Tim Tams
23:05
Speaker 14: at Wilworths tonight cost six bucks for nine Tim Tam biscuits.
23:10
Speaker 14: In Canada at Walmart and Canada you can buy them
23:13
Speaker 14: for the equivalent.
23:13
Speaker 1: Australian dollar equivalent of four dolls.
23:16
Speaker 14: How is it that Tim Tams had become cheaper in
23:19
Speaker 14: Canada than they are in their home in Australia. That
23:22
Speaker 14: is the core problem. So all this crap about climate change,
23:26
Speaker 14: no one cares about it when you can't afford your bills.
23:30
Speaker 14: When you're struggling to afford what's at the shopping trolley,
23:34
Speaker 14: people are worried that when they swipe their card it
23:36
Speaker 14: might get that dreaded message declined fund's not available.
23:40
Speaker 1: So that should be the focus of this government.
23:43
Speaker 14: But instead, yes, we have a government that's focused on
23:45
Speaker 14: flying around the world making friends with lots of other
23:48
Speaker 14: grifters who are making money on the back of this
23:51
Speaker 14: climate scam, climate change policy scam. It is when we
23:55
Speaker 14: should be focused on lowering our cost of living for Australians.
23:58
Speaker 14: That should be the num on focus the government, but
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Speaker 14: they don't have a plan.
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Speaker 1: On that anymore.
24:02
Speaker 2: And it's strange that Chris Bowen says he thinks Australians
24:04
Speaker 2: will get a benefit from him being a part time
24:07
Speaker 2: ministone flying off to Cop thirty one, even though he
24:09
Speaker 2: also says it's unlikely to provide any major breakthroughs on
24:13
Speaker 2: global climate action, so hard to see what benefit people
24:16
Speaker 2: will get. Look, let's talk about the IBA. It's issued
24:19
Speaker 2: a stark warning amid labors, CGT and negative gearing reforms.
24:24
Speaker 2: It says the property market is cooling faster than expected,
24:28
Speaker 2: heightening fears the downturn could slow the overall economy. Matt,
24:32
Speaker 2: can the Prime Minister really continue to defend these changes
24:36
Speaker 2: and the Treasury modeling he says is behind them.
24:40
Speaker 14: Well, Carolin, I just don't think the government knows what
24:41
Speaker 14: it's doing, and that's pretty clear from its own backflips,
24:46
Speaker 14: errors that it's made its own legislation, fix up jobs
24:50
Speaker 14: that it's kicked down the road for another day. I mean,
24:53
Speaker 14: just in the last few weeks, we've seen them rip
24:55
Speaker 14: up a big chunk of the budget that announced just
24:58
Speaker 14: five or six weeks earlier. We saw them forgets to
25:02
Speaker 14: deal with an issue with the widow tax, the divorce
25:05
Speaker 14: attacks where if you do having to lose a spouse
25:08
Speaker 14: or have unfortunately divorced, you potentially face a big tax
25:11
Speaker 14: bill too. They haven't fixed that in the law. They've
25:13
Speaker 14: said they'll fix that down the track. There's just so
25:16
Speaker 14: many gaps and holes in this policy that it's almost
25:20
Speaker 14: an inevitability that it's destroyed investor confidence in markets, and
25:24
Speaker 14: you destroy confidence, the bottom falls out. So much of
25:29
Speaker 14: what goes into our economic growth, our economic performance is
25:34
Speaker 14: based on just the general view that things will get better,
25:37
Speaker 14: that there's positivity, there's optimism, and people invest on that
25:40
Speaker 14: basis and every veryone does that things sort of sought out,
25:43
Speaker 14: but you're seeing, i think, a big pullback because people
25:46
Speaker 14: are very concerned about the future. Those reports indicate from
25:50
Speaker 14: finance brokers that they're seeing a twenty to thirty percent
25:53
Speaker 14: decline in home loans being originated. And then, so how
25:57
Speaker 14: does this help first time pie If there are a
25:59
Speaker 14: few homes being sold because of this uncertainty, there's going
26:03
Speaker 14: to be fewer opportunities for first home buyers. If banks
26:06
Speaker 14: are pulling back on lending, which we're seeing as well,
26:09
Speaker 14: first time buyers are going to often be the first
26:11
Speaker 14: victims because they're the ones that are often having to
26:14
Speaker 14: ask for the higher amount of debt, the higher amount
26:16
Speaker 14: of leverage because they don't have the upfront capital. But
26:19
Speaker 14: I'll be the first the banks say no to if
26:21
Speaker 14: they are worried about a higher risk property environment. So
26:24
Speaker 14: the government hasn't thought this policy through. It's now making
26:27
Speaker 14: it up on the run, and it really has no
26:30
Speaker 14: idea what it's unleash in the property market. I suppose
26:33
Speaker 14: we're left saying some prayers, but this doesn't infect the
26:36
Speaker 14: broader economy.
26:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it looks like the prera even prayers aren't
26:40
Speaker 2: going to help at this point. Let's talk about a
26:42
Speaker 2: dispute about the number of delegates at the New South
26:45
Speaker 2: Wales Nationals Conference which has surfaced. A Northern Tableland State
26:51
Speaker 2: Electoral Council chairman Savior Hill said only one hundred and
26:54
Speaker 2: forty people showed up compared to last year's three hundred
26:57
Speaker 2: odd attendance. Now there's been a little bit of questioning
27:01
Speaker 2: over those figures. The state director said two hundred showed up,
27:06
Speaker 2: but it does seem like there is a smaller number
27:10
Speaker 2: this year than last. Do you except that one nation
27:14
Speaker 2: may have taken members off the Nationals and News up Wales, Well.
27:19
Speaker 14: The numbers don't show that. Caroline the Newsorl's Nationals Party
27:23
Speaker 14: have more members today than it did a year ago.
27:28
Speaker 14: Has been growth in our membership and now I was
27:30
Speaker 14: at that conference in Aubury and I didn't do a
27:32
Speaker 14: head count so to speak, but I think the numbers
27:35
Speaker 14: are up around the numbers that have been reported there
27:37
Speaker 14: around the two hundred. There's no doubt that numbers were
27:40
Speaker 14: down a little bit because the conference was held in Aubury,
27:42
Speaker 14: at the bottom of New South Wales, and so it's
27:45
Speaker 14: just hard.
27:45
Speaker 1: It's very costly for people.
27:47
Speaker 14: Keep in mind, all of the people that turn up
27:48
Speaker 14: at our conferences pay their own way, and that's become
27:52
Speaker 14: a lot more expensive under this government. So last year's
27:55
Speaker 14: conference in Coffs hard was a bit more Central and
28:00
Speaker 14: probably was a slightly higher attendance, but you always get
28:02
Speaker 14: these things going up and down. We're a country based party.
28:05
Speaker 14: We want to spread our conferences around the electorate to
28:07
Speaker 14: allow people in southern New South Wales to go. It's
28:09
Speaker 14: also that part of the elect that part of New
28:11
Speaker 14: South Wales as an area we haven't held for twenty
28:13
Speaker 14: five years in the National's Party, but we want to grow.
28:16
Speaker 14: We desperately want to give better representation for the people
28:19
Speaker 14: of Aubrey and all of southern New South Wales. I
28:21
Speaker 14: don't think they're getting that with David Farley at the moment.
28:23
Speaker 14: I mean I congratulated him his electric election, wish him
28:26
Speaker 14: all the best. He hasn't made the best start in
28:28
Speaker 14: Parliament here voting with the Greens and Teals. It's been
28:32
Speaker 14: all a bit clumsy. So look, hopefully they do get
28:35
Speaker 14: some fight here because desperately, I know, spending a.
28:38
Speaker 1: Lot of time down that part of the world.
28:39
Speaker 14: The hospital in Aubrey, the drinking water issues in the Render,
28:44
Speaker 14: the broader water policy filures across the Murray Darling need action.
28:49
Speaker 14: They need someone fighting for them and I know the
28:51
Speaker 14: National's Party will be there doing that. That's why we
28:53
Speaker 14: took the conference down on an area. We're not the
28:55
Speaker 14: strongest part of New South Walest for us, but we're
28:57
Speaker 14: looking to go.
28:57
Speaker 1: We're looking to grow fair enough.
28:59
Speaker 2: People cannot to travel long distances, that is true. We'll
29:02
Speaker 2: see what next years figures look like. Matt Hanavan, thank
29:05
Speaker 2: you so much for your time. Tonight after the break,
29:08
Speaker 2: Carl Stepanovic unloads on Channel nine in a new interview
29:11
Speaker 2: with Piers Morgan and could the veteran broadcaster be about
29:15
Speaker 2: to team up with Kyle Sandalans. Jonathan Moran joins me next.
29:24
Speaker 2: After Kyl Stepanovic's dramatic implosion at Mine last week, there's
29:28
Speaker 2: been a lot of speculation about what he will do next.
29:32
Speaker 2: Now there's been a clue. The IP addresses for Kyle
29:36
Speaker 2: and Karl dot com dot Au and Carl and Kyle
29:39
Speaker 2: dot com dot Au were registered under Kyle Sandalance's company name,
29:44
Speaker 2: hinting at the pairs possible teaming up following their high
29:48
Speaker 2: profile firings. Joining me is Australia's authority on all things entertainment.
29:53
Speaker 2: Cheap Entertainment writer for the Daily Telegraph, Jonathan Moran.
29:57
Speaker 15: Guilty is charge guilty, I'm guilty in all an authority
29:59
Speaker 15: in things unentertaining?
30:00
Speaker 2: You are you are now, Jamo? Is this a serious
30:03
Speaker 2: sign that Kyle and Carl might be looking to team
30:07
Speaker 2: up on a project together or what is it?
30:09
Speaker 15: What I'll tell you also is that this is not
30:12
Speaker 15: something that's just happened overnight. So yes, some sleuth work
30:14
Speaker 15: from me found yesterday that those addresses were registered. The
30:20
Speaker 15: domain names were registered this week, but two years ago
30:24
Speaker 15: the King Kyle Kyle Sandelan's business had registered the Morningmen
30:28
Speaker 15: and Mourningmen dot com dot au and that's when conversations
30:33
Speaker 15: started between Kyle and Kyl about the possibility of doing
30:36
Speaker 15: something together. So this isn't a new conversation. But I
30:39
Speaker 15: think what's happened over I know what's happened over the
30:42
Speaker 15: last six months has heightened those conversations, put some more
30:47
Speaker 15: heat under it, and both of them are looking to
30:49
Speaker 15: maintain relevant. Yes, it's great to be off Broadway, but
30:53
Speaker 15: both of them still want to have something which is
30:58
Speaker 15: very mainstream, whether that's on YouTube or wherever.
31:01
Speaker 2: Do you think there'd be in an audience for a
31:03
Speaker 2: show like that, because I mean it is a relatively
31:05
Speaker 2: small market. We've seen people in the US leave mainstream networks.
31:10
Speaker 2: People I'm thinking like Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly who
31:13
Speaker 2: found a big audience online. But is there enough of
31:15
Speaker 2: that here in Australia.
31:17
Speaker 15: Absolutely, absolutely, there's enough of that. Even on my YouTube,
31:21
Speaker 15: my followers are all around the world. I've got twenty
31:23
Speaker 15: five thousand followers on YouTube. It's not huge, but it's
31:26
Speaker 15: better than a poking the eie with a stick. And
31:29
Speaker 15: many of my followers in the UK, the US, all
31:31
Speaker 15: around the world. So carl absolutely has an opportunity to
31:34
Speaker 15: really build an international presence. People aren't turned a well
31:37
Speaker 15: off now by an Aussie accent or such and such accent.
31:41
Speaker 2: They want opinions.
31:42
Speaker 15: They want to hear what people think. They don't want
31:44
Speaker 15: to see splinters on people's bums. They want to know,
31:46
Speaker 15: whatever side of the fence they're on, where do you sit?
31:49
Speaker 15: And this is a real opportunity for him to do
31:51
Speaker 15: that and do it on his own terms.
31:52
Speaker 2: Well, it's probably by Sky News does so well in
31:55
Speaker 2: the US and on I YouTube as well. I think
31:57
Speaker 2: we have six million almost it's still in the business.
32:00
Speaker 15: The best is it is the YouTube offering that Sky
32:05
Speaker 15: News has is second to nine. It is extraordinary the
32:07
Speaker 15: platform and the viewers go there from all around the world.
32:10
Speaker 15: It's not just in Australia.
32:12
Speaker 2: Thanks Jamo, our digital team will be very happy to
32:14
Speaker 2: true it's true. I'm not lying. Meanwhile, Stefanovic has revealed
32:18
Speaker 2: in a new interview with British broadcast Appears Morgan that
32:21
Speaker 2: he actually planned on ditching nine earlier.
32:25
Speaker 3: I told nine that I was leaving the Today Show
32:28
Speaker 3: two or three months ago, and they said, can you
32:31
Speaker 3: give us time to you know, get someone in, you know,
32:35
Speaker 3: to test the waters on who is going to be
32:36
Speaker 3: your replacement. So I gave them, you know, a huge
32:39
Speaker 3: chunk of time, and I don't know when they were
32:41
Speaker 3: going to announce who was going to be my replacement.
32:44
Speaker 3: So at the end of the year, I was, you know,
32:47
Speaker 3: I was going to sail off into the sunset.
32:50
Speaker 2: He also had a crack at his former employer for
32:52
Speaker 2: promoting beige personalities because they're worried about blowback from advertisers
32:57
Speaker 2: and activist mobs. I mean, Jamo, he did have twenty
33:00
Speaker 2: one years on air. They didn't even let him go
33:03
Speaker 2: on drunk after the LOGI but I mean he's right
33:06
Speaker 2: in one respect that they didn't have a succession plan
33:10
Speaker 2: in place. What is the latest with that.
33:11
Speaker 15: This is a thing that blows me away, is that
33:15
Speaker 15: he gave them the time to work on this, and
33:18
Speaker 15: so far they are floundering around trying to work out
33:21
Speaker 15: where to go next. They've had a test this week
33:24
Speaker 15: with Tom Steinfurt lovely guy, but the ratings have fallen
33:27
Speaker 15: off a cliff. Next week they've got Charles Croucher. Then
33:30
Speaker 15: who else have they got after that? They're going to
33:32
Speaker 15: do this rotating roster trialing people. They should have been
33:35
Speaker 15: thinking about this some time ago, doing the silent test,
33:37
Speaker 15: doing the various groups, focus groups, behind the scenes, and
33:42
Speaker 15: they need to think outside the box if they want
33:45
Speaker 15: to take on YouTube, if they want to take on
33:46
Speaker 15: Sky News, and they want to take on people that
33:48
Speaker 15: are taking more chances than they need to think outside
33:52
Speaker 15: the box on this one.
33:53
Speaker 2: Well, how has it impacted ratings because there was some
33:56
Speaker 2: reports today that the Today Show is down to two
33:59
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty Allison, Now, it's always well for a
34:01
Speaker 2: long time, been a fair chunk behind Sunrise, but it's
34:05
Speaker 2: got it even worse after Carlos Axing.
34:08
Speaker 15: As I said, I don't use those words lightly. It's
34:10
Speaker 15: fallen off a Cliff, they're not great. The figures are terrible,
34:14
Speaker 15: and they're going to be having serious talks with executives
34:17
Speaker 15: about what they do next. That said, the important thing
34:22
Speaker 15: is that they need to move swiftly because viewers have
34:24
Speaker 15: its form fast, so people are going to go right,
34:27
Speaker 15: I like this or I don't like it, so they
34:29
Speaker 15: can move on and they can fix things. But they
34:31
Speaker 15: need to do it fast, and they need to make
34:33
Speaker 15: some serious decisions. Be brave, be bold, and do it,
34:36
Speaker 15: and do it quickly.
34:37
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what happens very quickly. Taylor Swift and
34:40
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey are due to get married tomorrow. It's been
34:43
Speaker 2: rumored they'll tie the knot at Madison Square, which garden
34:47
Speaker 2: which can hold up to twenty thousand people. What are
34:49
Speaker 2: you expecting to see just.
34:51
Speaker 15: A low key wedding When I get married, it's going
34:52
Speaker 15: to be twenty thousand people, twenty people more likely. Look,
34:56
Speaker 15: I am still not convinced that Madison Square. You can
34:59
Speaker 15: I lead up my words next week if you have
35:01
Speaker 15: me back on, but I am not convinced it's going
35:04
Speaker 15: to be there because it just doesn't make sense. It
35:06
Speaker 15: doesn't compute in my brain. Someone who wants to keep
35:10
Speaker 15: something private, Why would you have it in the center
35:12
Speaker 15: of New York City. Yes, they've got heightened security. Yes
35:16
Speaker 15: they've got all this sort of stuff. People can get
35:18
Speaker 15: in underground. They can you know, there's no windows going inside,
35:22
Speaker 15: and there has been permits made to have all these
35:25
Speaker 15: different things sorted for the venue. There have been weddings
35:29
Speaker 15: there before. It just doesn't make sense to me. If
35:31
Speaker 15: I was Taylor Swift, which I'm not, I would be
35:34
Speaker 15: getting married in Nashville. I'd be getting married in Pennsylvania,
35:37
Speaker 15: where I was born. I'd be off to Ohio, where
35:40
Speaker 15: he's from.
35:42
Speaker 2: A justice. It's all the decoy.
35:44
Speaker 15: Well, she's worth two billion bucks, my friend, So spending
35:47
Speaker 15: a couple of million dollars on getting everyone off the
35:49
Speaker 15: scent doesn't seem like that crazy a thing. I will
35:53
Speaker 15: eat my words when I'm wrong.
35:55
Speaker 2: We'll make you do that. Jamo always a pleasure.
35:57
Speaker 15: I'm right about Carl, but I'm happy to be wrong
35:59
Speaker 15: about Taylor Swift.
36:01
Speaker 2: We will see after the break. Jewish advocate Marnie Perlstein
36:05
Speaker 2: will give her thoughts on what we saw at the
36:07
Speaker 2: Royal Commission today, with a hard left anti Israel activist
36:11
Speaker 2: invited to give evidence. That's next. Okay, let's return to
36:17
Speaker 2: the Royal Commission now, where the head of the fringe
36:20
Speaker 2: anti Zionist group, the Jewish Council of Australian took the
36:24
Speaker 2: stand today to blame Israel and other Jews for anti Semitism.
36:29
Speaker 2: Joining me now is Jewish community advocate Marnie Pearlstein. Many.
36:33
Speaker 2: I found it quite astonishing that the founder of a
36:35
Speaker 2: group who represents well under two percent of the Jewish
36:39
Speaker 2: community and has an obvious agenda here was allowed to
36:42
Speaker 2: give evidence. What did you make of her testimony?
36:47
Speaker 16: First and foremost, I was sad to hear about the
36:50
Speaker 16: amount of hate that she's received. I mean, we're all
36:52
Speaker 16: here to talk about the lived experience of Jews in
36:55
Speaker 16: this country. Anyone receiving hate, it's not a great thing.
36:58
Speaker 16: But she did say she was receiving hatred from neo
37:02
Speaker 16: Nazi groups and from pro Israeli groups, and I can
37:06
Speaker 16: see why a lot of pro Israeli groups or advocates
37:10
Speaker 16: take issue with her. First and foremost, the Jewish Council
37:14
Speaker 16: of Australia is a misnomer. It does not represent Jewish
37:19
Speaker 16: Australians at all. It's actually an organization that's been created
37:24
Speaker 16: to support Palestinian freedom and justice, and I think if
37:28
Speaker 16: that's all they did, maybe more Jews would actually support
37:31
Speaker 16: that organization. It's true, as you've said, that that organization
37:36
Speaker 16: only really represents at the very most two percent of
37:40
Speaker 16: the Jewish community. They only have something like two thousand members,
37:44
Speaker 16: where a community of one hundred and twenty thousand people.
37:48
Speaker 16: But what I thought was ironic about her appearance today
37:51
Speaker 16: is that she was there to talk about her lived
37:54
Speaker 16: experience of anti Semitism, and it's her organization that is
37:59
Speaker 16: actually making things for many Jews much more difficult in
38:04
Speaker 16: this country because I think she just spends most of
38:08
Speaker 16: her time demonizing Israel, and she refuses to see Israel
38:15
Speaker 16: as being central to most of the Jewish community's.
38:19
Speaker 11: Version of Judaism.
38:20
Speaker 16: So she believes that anyone who views Israel as a
38:24
Speaker 16: defining part of their identity has a political agenda to
38:29
Speaker 16: protect Israel. And she says that Jews like me never
38:32
Speaker 16: criticize Israel. We don't criticize the Israeli government, their decisions,
38:37
Speaker 16: their policies. But this is really untrue. Legitimate criticism of
38:42
Speaker 16: israel I think is really.
38:43
Speaker 17: Important, and it's welcomed and Sarah is welcome to have
38:48
Speaker 17: her own opinion, but once that descends into lies and misinformation,
38:52
Speaker 17: I think she is creating real danger for the Jewish community.
38:56
Speaker 16: She talks about terms like genocide, occupation apart tie those
39:02
Speaker 16: things are falsely represented by her organization, and she is
39:05
Speaker 16: causing real harm to all of us.
39:08
Speaker 11: And I would also argue that.
39:09
Speaker 16: If she genuinely is concerned with the civil rights of Palestinians,
39:14
Speaker 16: instead of always talking about Israel, which she does in
39:18
Speaker 16: the media, she should be really talking about Hamas because
39:21
Speaker 16: right now there is a cease fire in Gaza, and
39:24
Speaker 16: I have not heard her or her organization ever mention
39:29
Speaker 16: that Hamas has been holding public executions to a certain control.
39:33
Speaker 11: Of the area.
39:34
Speaker 16: There are two hundred and forty nine public executions at
39:37
Speaker 16: last count.
39:38
Speaker 11: There's been sexual violence against gars and women, and.
39:41
Speaker 16: I therefore question the true intentions of Sarah's organization.
39:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, they really they don't talk about those issues at all.
39:49
Speaker 2: They really play down any problems within their own movement.
39:53
Speaker 2: As I showed a bit in my editorial even about
39:56
Speaker 2: the the rights of the Opera House, that it was
39:59
Speaker 2: only a very small number of people that they were
40:02
Speaker 2: the organizers dealt with them quickly. It's just not the
40:05
Speaker 2: facts of the night in question, let alone all the
40:07
Speaker 2: other protests that we've seen ever since, almost on a
40:10
Speaker 2: weekly basis. Meanwhile, Marni has been found the Royal Commission
40:14
Speaker 2: into Anti Semitism faces the daily workload of the previous
40:18
Speaker 2: eight Royal Commissions combined, raising concerns about how just as
40:23
Speaker 2: Virginia bell will meet the deadline that she's set of
40:27
Speaker 2: the first anniversary of the Bondoe attack on December fourteen,
40:30
Speaker 2: analysis by The Australian found the Commission would need to
40:33
Speaker 2: come through at least fifty nine submissions a day to
40:36
Speaker 2: get there. MANI I mean an overwhelming amount of submissions
40:40
Speaker 2: have been made twenty thousand as of last week, more
40:43
Speaker 2: than any other inquiry of its kind. And it's great
40:47
Speaker 2: that people are giving their evidence and testifying, and we
40:51
Speaker 2: would have cause encourage everyone to do that. But do
40:54
Speaker 2: you have the confidence the Commission will be able to
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Speaker 2: meet its deadline in time?
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Speaker 16: When you do the mass, it's hard to see how
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Speaker 16: the Commission can meet this deadline. I mean, Virginia Belle
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Speaker 16: has two hundred and ninety two days I think between
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Speaker 16: the opening of the inquiry and the time that her
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Speaker 16: final report is due. There are eight of Out of
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Speaker 16: the eight last commissions over the last decade, only two
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Speaker 16: have had shorter turnarounds. So the average Australian Royal Commission
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Speaker 16: runs for I think it's fifteen months. But you know,
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Speaker 16: this is a serious issue and it's a complex issue,
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Speaker 16: and with that volume of submissions, I don't know how
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Speaker 16: they do that. The Disability Royal Commission lasted three to
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Speaker 16: four years and that was a really complex Royal commission
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Speaker 16: as well. I think it's a valid concern that we
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Speaker 16: questioned the timeline.
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Speaker 11: I questioned the timeline right from the beginning. Actually, as
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Speaker 11: soon as it was announced that there would be.
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Speaker 16: A twelve month turnaround, I thought that was a very short.
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Speaker 11: Time frame for such a complex issue.
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Speaker 16: And that was before we realized how many submissions there
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Speaker 16: would be. Yeah, I hope that Virginia Bell will call
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Speaker 16: for an extension if she feels that she needs one.
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Speaker 16: And I know that the Prime Minister wants this whole
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Speaker 16: thing wrapped up way before the next election, which is why.
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Speaker 11: I think twelve months was given in the first place.
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Speaker 16: So if you know, by the same token, we don't
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Speaker 16: want a three to four year time. I'm framing this
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Speaker 16: because otherwise he could be gone and never take accountability
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Speaker 16: for anything.
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Speaker 2: Well that's true too. I mean there is a sense
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Speaker 2: of urgency that we need to have recommendations to improve
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Speaker 2: life in Australia. But on the other hand, we don't
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Speaker 2: want them to be so rush that they're worthless either. Look,
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Speaker 2: let's talk very quickly about these secret documents exposed by
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Speaker 2: The Australian newspaper, which revealed the Biinali of Sydney quietly
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Speaker 2: paid out an ambassador accused of anti Semitism despite the
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Speaker 2: fact she failed to meet her obligations. In the role,
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Speaker 2: emails between the buyer and Aaral and Creative Australia reveal
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Speaker 2: how the organization paid out Ambassador Benji Rah after a
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Speaker 2: series of controversial posts, including reposting an image of a
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Speaker 2: rabbi wrapped in a bloodstained Israeli and American flags and
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Speaker 2: poster that read death to the IDF another suggesting the
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Speaker 2: Bonnie attack wasn't anti Semitic. I mean Mahani the artist
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Speaker 2: had been cautioned about her earlier posts, yet she continued
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Speaker 2: with a hateful content. Yet she's still paid out. What
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Speaker 2: does that tell you just quickly about Baiinali's arts festivals
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Speaker 2: in general and the fact I mean this, it receives
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Speaker 2: two and a half million dollars a year in tax
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Speaker 2: payer funding. Surely that needs to be stripped now.
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Speaker 11: It should be stripped. But I'm surprised they cared enough
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Speaker 11: to pay her up.
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Speaker 16: They didn't have a problem with dj Haram, who was
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Speaker 16: the opening act. She accused Australia of being complicit in genocide.
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Speaker 11: She got on stage and sent glory to our martyrs.
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Speaker 16: You know, if they were so concerned about the image
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Speaker 16: and about any kind of issue, I'm surprised that they
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Speaker 16: didn't deal with it all earlier. I mean, the original sponsor, Mervat,
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Speaker 16: pulled out quite early and they cited concerns with creative direction.
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Speaker 2: That was once Al.
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Speaker 16: Kassimi came in as the artistic director, and she's an
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Speaker 16: Emarati princess who is a very vocal pro Palestinian advocate.
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Speaker 16: Someone actually gave me some a report that they had
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Speaker 16: made on the talent in the Bernali and they found
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Speaker 16: that forty percent of all of the featured artists engaged
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Speaker 16: with anti Israel narratives online and that twenty four percent
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Speaker 16: pose a high risk category for social cohesion due to
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Speaker 16: their anti Israel views, and of course there was not
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Speaker 16: one Israeli artist or Jewish artist to counter the narrative.
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Speaker 16: So yeah, I would say the funding needs to be reviewed.
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Speaker 16: The lineup everything.
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Speaker 2: To Really it's a typical as an Emania, lot of
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Speaker 2: arts festivals here, We've got to go, but we appreciate
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Speaker 2: your time. Tonight after the break how an organization is
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Speaker 2: bringing together people with intellectual disabilities and the police through sport.
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Speaker 2: It's a heartwarming and yet very cold initiative. Don't miss it.
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Speaker 2: An organization is working to break down barriers for people
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Speaker 2: with intellectual disabilities through the power of sport. Special Olympics
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Speaker 2: is a worldwide movement founded by Eunice Kennedy Shreiver, the
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Speaker 2: sister of former US President John F. Kennedy. Has that
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Speaker 2: this year has provided services to more than five million
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Speaker 2: athletes in two hundred countries. There are more than one
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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty athletes in Sydney's Northern Beaches alone, and
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Speaker 2: next month they'll be hosting their annual law enforcement Torch
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Speaker 2: Run Polar Plunge, where in New South Wales, hundreds of
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Speaker 2: police recruits will plunge into icy outdoor pools. That's happening
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Speaker 2: across the Stone E. Don't know how many will be
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Speaker 2: in the northern beaches, but we're about to find out
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Speaker 2: because joining me is for more is retired police officer
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Speaker 2: and president of the Law Enforcement Torch Run New South
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Speaker 2: Wales Scott White, an athlete Nathan Whitty. Welcome both of
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Speaker 2: you and thanks for coming on. Nathan us start with you.
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Speaker 2: Tell me how did you get involved in Special Olympics
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Speaker 2: and what does it mean to you?
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Speaker 13: Well, okay, it creates more opportunity to connect with more
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Speaker 13: people into play sports.
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Speaker 2: And what sports your favorite? You're representing New South Wales
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Speaker 2: in swimming at the Special Olympics Yes, National Games in Melbourne.
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Speaker 2: I understand. So is swimming your thing?
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Speaker 13: Yep, swimming is my major thing. How do you I'm
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Speaker 13: working with?
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Speaker 2: How do you prepare for a big event like a
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Speaker 2: Special Olympics National Games? How much training does that involve?
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Speaker 13: Well a trainer two to three we swimming trainings per week.
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Speaker 2: And you like being involved with the other athletes and.
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Speaker 13: I like being involved with other athletes.
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Speaker 2: That's lovely. Scott. Tell me you are actually the person
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Speaker 2: who helped found this event in New South Wales, the
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Speaker 2: Torch Run. What why did you want to bring the police?
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Speaker 2: And you've got this very cute police bear for the
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Speaker 2: event as well with athletes with special needs.
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Speaker 18: It's something that for me, I was conned into it
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Speaker 18: and by a couple of other police officers who are
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Speaker 18: also still involved. Twenty odd years on and I did
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Speaker 18: one event. I helped organize an event from Sydney to
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Speaker 18: the Gold Coast for the National Games that were held
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Speaker 18: in two thousand and six, and the bug just bit
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Speaker 18: me that this was something that needed our support worldwide.
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Speaker 18: Police across the entire world are the largest supporter of
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Speaker 18: Special Olympics and the numbers are really staggering. In twenty
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Speaker 18: twenty two we pass the one billion US dollar mark
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Speaker 18: for fundraising. We don't do anything like that here, but
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Speaker 18: trying our best, we raise more than five hundred thousand
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Speaker 18: dollars a year for the athletes of Special Olympics. And
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Speaker 18: if I can say that the key part of that
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Speaker 18: for US is police officers contributing every fortnight out of
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Speaker 18: their pay to help people like Nathan.
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Speaker 2: Why is there such a great connection between the police
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Speaker 2: and these athletes.
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Speaker 18: I've said this to a couple of police officers at
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Speaker 18: events that we've been at. Generally speaking, a police officer
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Speaker 18: turns up on a call and the people there don't
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Speaker 18: really want to see him or see them. On this occasion,
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Speaker 18: whenever they come to one of the special Olympics events,
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Speaker 18: they are surrounded, they are hugged, They really get a
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Speaker 18: kick out of police. The side that I like about
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Speaker 18: that is that it instills a level of confidence in
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Speaker 18: the athlete that if something goes wrong, they can trust
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Speaker 18: and they can go to the police.
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Speaker 2: Is that true for you, Nathan? Do you like seeing
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Speaker 2: the police at these events?
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Speaker 13: Yep, I love seeing the police officer. The last time
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Speaker 13: I saw the police officer running with ltr New South Wales,
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Speaker 13: Swiss when especially Olympics. Mccarthur hosted this special Olympics State
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Speaker 13: Athletics competition which is located near Campbelltown last Sunday, and
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Speaker 13: I brought Homer with Dei, Sealiz and two gold.
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Speaker 2: That is incredible, Nathan, And just finally Scott very quickly,
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Speaker 2: how hard is it to convince other cops to get
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Speaker 2: into that very cold water because you have to jump
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Speaker 2: in the outdoor pool.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it's difficult. It is difficult.
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Speaker 2: Look, I don't think you're going to get me jumping in,
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Speaker 2: but I'm happy to support you by having you both
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Speaker 2: on the show and showing off all the great work
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Speaker 2: that you do. Good luck with this this event coming
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Speaker 2: up next month. We appreciate it. That is it for
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Speaker 2: me tonight. I will be back on Sunday morning at
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Speaker 2: nine am for Outsiders. But now it's time for Paul
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Speaker 2: Murray Live