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#270 - For Azeroth!: “Timer Anxiety” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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10 point 2.6 is here and encrypted within this patch is
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the beginnings of a big change to Mythic Plus that is going to
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come with season four. Lex and Manny talk about it
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today in this episode of For Azeroth, for Calendar to the
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burning region. For Gilnaeus.
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For the Lich King. For the Sindoran.
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For the Alliance for Azeroth. Hello, and welcome to another
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episode of For Azeroth. I am one of your hosts, the true
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villain Manny. And joining me as always, which
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we decided last episode I can say now is Black Grants.
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Hello, Lex. Hello Manny, how was your week
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in Warcraft? Oh yeah, that's right.
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You know, that's my line. But yes, my week is being
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strange. Like, actually wonderful in some
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respects. I just finished doing all of the
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casting that I was planning to do for the DDI, the Dungeon Dojo
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Invitational. That was I.
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Was very successful. Yeah, yeah, it was a great
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community thing. We had like near 30 teams.
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We were supposed to have over 30 teams.
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So we had some drop offs at at last moment because of their
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conflicts with scheduling and all of that.
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So things go, but also yeah, I've been talking all weekend,
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but we're right back at it and it was great.
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Yeah, we raised rolling total is over $5000 that we've raised
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this year so far for the Make a Wish international, which is
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spectacular. Really incredible.
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Yeah. That's huge.
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Yeah. The rest of the week was this
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little weird thing. I didn't get to do the mythic
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pluses that I usually do because one of our people that I've I've
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now got to try to put together a static team and the static team
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has come together and so we are the hell scream hellions.
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I decided to name randomly. The one guy is just like, no,
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we're not doing any horde associated things and I just
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kept calling us that and now nobody protests and it's I've
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won. One could make the argument that
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hell Scream ceased to be horrid, right?
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Like he was kicked out. So you guys are just the, like
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traitors, the criminals? Something like that, something
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like that. But yeah, we unfortunately, our
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tank had some family in town, had to do IRL stuff, so we
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didn't get to do Mythic. Plus the Ray team, the the, the
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Valhalla's, we didn't have enough people.
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We were hitting the attendance boss, so we couldn't do Mythic
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on Tuesday. Went in on Thursday, got back to
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dealing with the council, couldn't quite get the council
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down without using Vantas rooms and we just didn't want to do
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it. So unfortunately did not get the
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progress that we wanted on that and we're still four out of
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nine. Hopefully we'll get that five
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out of nine, but with I believe this week being our last week
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before we take our hiatus, it's now or never.
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It's do or die time as it were. Now before I ask you how your
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week in World of Warcraft is, I do want to say that Bun has said
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hello to you and she's in chat feeling like hey.
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Tell her I say hello. She can hear me.
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Hi, Bun. Yeah, And so yeah, we're
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recording this every other week for Azeroth is now, every other
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week on Mondays, recorded 8 PM Eastern.
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Then I will get the show out the very next day for everybody to
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listen. So hello, Hello, Lex.
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How is your week in World of Warcraft been?
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It has been good. I will say this is more of my
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kind of break time. I said this on Twitter, but my
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boyfriend very kindly got me the first three books in the
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Stormlight Archive trilogy, or. Technology.
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The eight books that are getting be going to become the
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Stormlight Archive, and I've already read the first, so I'm
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now about 700 pages into the second, which has been a pretty
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much my entire life at this point.
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But in Warcraft I've been having a great time.
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I did a little bit of the Hearthstone event because I
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really wanted the rat and save your, save your reactions.
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I got a rat on my second try, not through luck, but because I
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I did this like yesterday, like after most people had done it a
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million times. And so people were just like
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giving away the rat and I'm like, wait, this is amazing.
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So I just got the rat, did basically no work and that was
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all I wanted. Which by the way, can I just say
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the new mouse models? Unbelievable.
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The cutest thing I've ever seen. I'm losing my entire mind over
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this little rat. So thank you Berserker,
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specifically, this is for you. I hope you know that when I got
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this rat, I said Berserker is going to love this because he
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thinks we need more rats in the game.
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So I had a great time and my Guild has decided that for
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season four we're going to do it a little bit more, like kind of
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a a meme raid. So we about half of us have
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decided that we're going to give up our slots and essentially
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we're going to roll random numbers and pick what spot we're
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going to get and we can't pick what we usually do.
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So I'm hoping to get tank. So when Timberma Tavern fails to
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do anything in season four, it is because 50% of the tanks
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really never should have taken up tanking.
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But so I'm very excited for that.
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We're going to learn what I got on Thursday, but other than that
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I've just been, I've been hanging around still doing my
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little writing activities and and Boppin.
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Oh wait, what are you taking on? What?
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What's the class? So that's such a good question.
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I've been so I can't do I, or at least I probably could.
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I I I don't want anyone to listen to this and feel like
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they were banning me from something.
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I don't want to do Bear or missed Weaver because the second
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tank who is keeping their spot in in the raid Guild for.
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I mean, everyone's keeping their spot, but who's keeping Tank for
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season 4? Alternates between missed,
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missed, Weaver and Bear, and I'd rather not get in that way.
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Exactly like let them have that option.
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So I've been doing some research and I think I'm probably gonna
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go with Demon Hunter. I was thinking about Warrior,
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just because I feel like I like the class fantasy of that.
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But as much as I want to say I can learn anything, I I do feel
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like it like it potentially would be a little bit too
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complicated and I'd rather not. Or at least I see things as
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making it sound like it was extremely unforgiving.
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And as much as I I want a nice little challenge, I'd rather not
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put myself in a situation where I am just inherently going to
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lose my mind and get overwhelmed and feel like I'm doing a bad
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job. Because as we know from Mythic
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Plus, if I feel like I'm letting everyone down, I get very
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disappointed very quickly. So instead I'm doing Demon
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Hunter, which is notoriously the easiest tank, which is was meant
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to be sarcasm. Manny, I saw that look on your
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face, but I think, I think it'll be fun.
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I like the little, you know, the Illidan aesthetic.
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OK, OK. Like we have.
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Definitely people in chat. We just got a raid from
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Valentium Pro. Sean is really good with tanks.
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There are a lot of people who can who can maybe show you the
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ropes of tanking. Don't worry, this isn't in
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Season of Discovery. She's going to be tanking in
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retail for Season 4. This is, this is, this is going
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to be fun. We got JPD to be like Lexus
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tanking. Oh no, Call the priest.
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We should, but not for me. We should back up a little,
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which is that I haven't actually gotten my We haven't done this
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random number 0. Are you hoping for tank?
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I'm hoping for tank. If I don't get tank, I'm
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probably going to end up with melee DPS just because I feel
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like if I do range DPS it's going to be too close to to my
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priest and I want to shake things up and the joy of you
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know, I think Demon Hunter is also melee DPSI.
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Don't know anything but I'm I'm hoping.
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I'm hoping they'll get to roll high enough to get tank because
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I've wanted a tank for a while. I mean you know what you do you
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are an officer put your finger on that scale be be like hey hey
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this is trade trade off with me let me be the tank.
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I I do like tanks. So many of my alts are tanks.
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Literally with saying this in the pre show I've got Brewmaster
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as one of my alt. My first alt that I like really
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loved was a protection warrior. The Paladin that I did, I didn't
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really enjoy levelling it as Rhett and I went pally and I
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enjoyed that a lot more. So like yeah, tanking is fun.
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It is great. I hope that you enjoy it even if
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you don't get to do it for your rate team.
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Maybe dip your toes into it and see if you like that.
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Yeah, that was also kind of what I was thinking.
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I've I have a couple boosts because I really don't play
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anything except for my priest. I have a couple boosts burning,
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burning a hole in my pocket, one of which is my level 70 full
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gear boost, which I will use for whatever I'm going to be doing
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braiding on because I don't level or gear quickly.
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But I've I've wanted to experiment with tanking for a
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while. Honestly, it was when I was
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playing Overwatch that I thought I was a perma healer and I was
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trying healing. And then I tried Diva for the
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first time and I was like, oh, This is why people tank.
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So I'm, I want to see what that's like in World of Warcraft
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and see if it kind of gives me that same energy of like, Oh
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yes, let me just focus myself and stuff in and hit really
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hard. So is this going to be when
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you're attempting to like run through things on follower
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dungeons or do you have like a group already and you're like,
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hey, yeah, why don't I just run with some people who are going
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to to give me that support, Like, how do you, how are you
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going to, like, learn the ropes? That's a good question.
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So I think part of that will depend.
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So actually it probably wouldn't.
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I was going to say part of that would depend on whether or not I
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do actually. Royal Tank is my, you know, meme
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class for this next season. Because I know we have all
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talked about like we're gonna help each other gear up and
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we're gonna help each other learn and get ready for for the
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raid. Because it's not just we're
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calling it a meme season. Like it is a still still a
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season and it's not fun to be bad.
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Like it's, you know, maybe for a night or two, but for a full
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season if nobody's actually doing well and we're not
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progressing and we're just hitting walls, like that's not
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gonna be fun for anyone. But that said everyone in
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Timbermont Tavern is incredibly kind and just wants to help and
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just want you know, we've this is I I'm talking myself up a
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little bit because I've been part of the community building
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here but it it really is such an incredible community of of just
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really really amazing people. So I'm 100% sure that the second
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I said I want to learn to tank, who wants to run Mythic Plus
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with me? Like I would be rolling in
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besties who would be like, Oh yeah, I mean, they already
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basically carry me through and I'm a healer, so this time they
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wouldn't have to worry about me killing them.
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OK, All right. Honestly, I think that there's
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going to be a big reset coming up.
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One of the topics that we're going to be talking about today
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is the new way that Mythic, Heroic, Mythic Plus is going to
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be set up in season four and how that's going to impact people,
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how everybody else feels about that.
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I. So I think that there's going to
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be a big reset. You're going to have people who
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are going to want to be doing Heroics 4 gear.
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They're they're gonna be people who wanna be doing Mythic Zeros.
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And some people might be a little intimidated about going
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into Mythic Plus. But like, again, we're gonna
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talk about all of that. Hopefully I can assuage you
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because it's really funny that that headline hit right after we
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were talking about, like, Oh yeah, Mythic 0 and all of this.
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Mythic 0 is a thing again. And so we we do have to have
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that conversation before though we do that.
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Our first topic of today is actually what's going to be out
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tomorrow, 10 point 2.6. And so there's been a lot of
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hype about this. There has been a lot of mystery
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and people wondering and scratching their head and being
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like, what in the world do you think Blizzard is going to be up
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to? What in the world is this going
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to be? And now we know the most that
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we're going to know before it's released, and it's still pretty
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much nothing in your head. Lex.
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What? What?
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What is 10 point 2.6 going to be tomorrow?
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Oh. I think they're going to bring
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back island expeditions. I think that they don't think
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that we appreciate it enough the first time and they're just
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going to do round two, yes. You know, I don't think I'd hate
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that. I don't think I would hate that,
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even as an oddball idea. Just be like a it's it's Island
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Expeditions again But with Pirates I'll be like all right,
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Yoveros in chat does say it is 2 days for the sad EU folks.
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Yes, it wasn't global universal release.
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It is going to be staggered. So we're going to get what, 8
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hours they put for maintenance tomorrow And then in the EU they
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get it at midnight their time. Yeah, we're going to be beta
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testing it in the NA again. Oh yay Rao.
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You guys get bug free, bug free patches and free healthcare in
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the EU. Sorry, should I not be that
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political? I I mean, I'm in Canada, I get
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my healthcare Smallwood anyway, so it's it's all sadness for me.
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You you get the amounts and everything super fast.
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I get, I get healthcare. I I think I'm winning all the
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same. That's fair.
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I'll accept that. I don't think you should, but
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it's OK. But yeah, so it's coming out
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staggered. It does mean that even though we
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know so little about it, by the time it comes out in the EUA lot
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more is going to be known. Unless you are putting your head
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in the sand, covering your ears, blocking those hashtags, staying
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well away from like social media, there's a big chance that
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you are going to be spoiled. And so the question is, like, do
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you think that well? I mean, like, do you think that
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this should have been a global release?
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Oh, that's a good question. I mean so I I think ideally yes,
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I don't really understand the the, OK, I I don't think that
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there is much of A benefit to staggering across or like you
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know across countries releases on like a APR standpoint, right.
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Which makes me think that this is more of like a not game dev,
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but like like there there is a a physical reason that they can't
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just release in one fell swoop and it could well be wrong.
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I don't know anything about how computers work.
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I don't know anything about how servers work.
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Like you know, I I trust the magic people with their magic
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typey typey skills. They solve it for me and I love
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that for them so but removing the like physical reasons that
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things go away. Yeah, I think I I do think that
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this lack of prepping and and and lack of data mining and
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everything for me has made this whole thing so much more
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exciting. Like even if, you know, you can
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say like, Oh well, you didn't have to look previously, like
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you could have kept your stuff secret, you didn't have to go on
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Twitter. Even even with that removed,
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like I I am genuinely finding that I'm more excited and I'm
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more interested in what's about to happen because I didn't have
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it all spoiled. And so I do feel kind of bad
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that the EU folks are aren't going to get that opportunity
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and aren't going to get to be those ones popping in and being
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excited. So, so yes, if you are removing
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any technological reasons that we couldn't do that, I think it
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would be great if we could release it all together.
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And I'm sorry, EU people, one day you'll get it first.
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I don't think they'll ever get it first.
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But yeah, the the ideal the ideal would be like, hey yes,
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global release at this time. It can't be patched.
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The patches have never been global patches.
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Even when you're talking about like worldwide release of the
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expansions where it's like hey this goes live 5 Eastern and
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that equates to like this in GMT or BST and this this all over
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the world. Even that.
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The patches themselves aren't done simultaneously, they just
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have a a switch that's synchronized for the release.
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I haven't seen them successfully do that sort of thing and have
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the encryption set up correctly, because every time something is
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encrypted, the week that the patch enables it, every data
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miner out there is spoiling it. Like, Oh yeah, in the first hour
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before servers go live. Hey, server servers aren't quite
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up yet, but we've been able to get through the encryption.
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So here's the end of like everything.
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Like that was a big thing for the end of this raid.
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Like here's the ending for the Emir Drisal raid and it was
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like, yes, it was the ending for the Emir Drisal raid, but there
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was so much outside of the raid that was actually the epilogue
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that made that made that such a non issue.
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And to to think how like that would get spoiled right and put
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out in a disjointed order. I think that they have to either
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hopefully somewhere along the way it becomes cost effective
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for them to just be like OK global servers everybody gets to
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play with every everyone worldwide patches all the time
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at the same at the same time. I am speaking like wet dream for
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Sean right situation here. That would be the ideal, I
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think. They should go back to CDs.
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Yes, they should go back to the seating releases.
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I loved, like, I'm sorry. Like, I'm going to go before
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your time, way back, way back in, like, you know, the days
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where I used to like camp out in front of like the the game shop
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waiting for that midnight release.
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And then to run home with my friends and be like, OK, guys,
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we're gonna spend the next how long installing this TV so we
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can all play together. Those are the days.
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Days are wait, I Not to not to nostalgia glasses.
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Something that I can't even nostalgia glasses.
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But it sounds fun. Like it sounds like a little a
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little mini BlizzCon every time anything gets released, Like
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everyone gathers, you get to hang out with your buds and
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like, meet a bunch of random strangers.
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We're all camped out together like that.
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Sounds sick. In.
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Lines, It's BlizzCon. It is literally BlizzCon it.
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Is mini BlizzCon all over? I recall standing in line for
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like Halo for like a Halo release.
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So I think it was like Halo Two or something like that.
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And just like swapping the X Xbox Live player ID so that we
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can like get in game together and play like the death matches
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and stuff and like, oh, I'm going to be playing the the
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campaign first. But like we could do do that on
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the weekend and stuff and getting all this and like
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creating that network of friends.
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Yeah, there is something to be said about that, but there's
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also something to be said about like being able to just be like
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it's midnight play, Let's go. Yeah, it just feels like patch
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while I'm working and then definitely not go on while I'm
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working ever. But, you know, just just kind of
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let that all happen in the safety and comfort of my own
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home. Don't have to go out anywhere,
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Don't have to camp. Yeah, the the thing that I'm
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looking at for this is that it is supposed to be an experience
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that is unlike we something we've seen in the World of
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Warcraft before, which is unlike something I've seen in the World
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of Warcraft forever, because everything in World of Warcraft
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has been iterative. And I say that because like
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everything that we get has been an iteration of something before
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it. You look at dragon riding
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something that's like relatively revolutionary in terms of
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dragonflight and you can see where that came from.
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You look at the targast and you can see where they borrowed
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their inspiration from. So for something to be unlike
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what we've seen before, they are either using that word very
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loosely or I'm about to get my socks blown off.
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I hope it's the latter. I don't.
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Yeah, that's and and to be fair and I I I don't mean this at all
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to be like alarmist doomsayer, but there's an A worry that I
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have which is that, you know, this is apparently something
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that we've never seen before. So it's not just pulling other
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information and also it hasn't been like PTR, right, Which
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again, I'm I, I, I this is a very a very small anxiety a tiny
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little one that I'm not saying means that everything is ruined
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and the world is over and Blizzard's making horrible
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decisions because they've they've handled this very well
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in the past. I I know that you know the the
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dragon flight first few days were messy but I've never seen
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an an expansion that's not a little messy.
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Like I don't think it was particularly bad.
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So I'm I'm not overly anxious about it.
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But more so they they must have done a ton of work.
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If this is this brand new experience that we've never seen
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before that isn't just borrowing information they've gotten from
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other things to test and to bug squish and and to do all of this
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labor within the Blizzard company itself which I'm.
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So I I'm really excited. I think whatever it is, it's
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going to be fun, or at least that's my hope.
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I I I cannot imagine that they have been hyping this up and
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getting everyone really excited and and giving all of this
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energy to something that they they at least don't think is
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going to be really, really great.
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So I'm very hopeful that we're about to see something really
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cool. And like, I don't think it's
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just PR hype saying that like this is unlike something we've
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seen before. Because it's not just like what
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I'm reading from like the social media or on the website or like
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tweets from from people who like, have vested interest in
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getting the hype going. It's also like what I'm hearing
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in the background from people that I know to have more
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information than you or I or and they're generally saying like,
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oh this is cool, don't you worry.
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It's not something that you're going to like blow through on
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day one which is a which was a concern from me.
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But like just like JTP saying in the chat, no PTR is scary
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because something relatively simple like the Hearthstone
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anniversary where it's like, hey these bosses spawn in on a timer
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and you have to collect this stuff.
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They had to do some major adjustments after that hit live
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that was something that they didn't test on the PTR and stuff
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that like you kind of feel like they should have seen coming.
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I I want to feel like I'm parroting EJ from Girls Gone.
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Wow, it it it was just like, yeah, like you feel they should
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have known better when you have everybody getting pushed to like
23:43
one location for Val Drakken or slightly spit up if they didn't
23:49
want to go to Orgamar. But it wasn't like the Storm and
23:51
Orgamar portals were showing up simultaneously.
23:54
They were actually part of the rotation.
23:55
So in servers that were PVE or people who just like you know
23:59
had war mode off, Alliance would show up in Orgamar, Horde would
24:03
show up in Storm Wind and hope that they they didn't get
24:07
attacked. And it will still be a huge lag
24:09
fest. And you got to think that that
24:12
is something they should have seen coming.
24:15
That's that's fair. I mean there definitely is a
24:19
risk to not PTR ING. I have kind of managed to cope
24:24
with that will cope with that by just not trying to hit things
24:27
hit the ground running. Like, I know my first, when I
24:28
was streaming, the first year that I was streaming the first
24:31
patch that came out, I was like, I'm taking the full day off of
24:34
work and I'm going to just right in the.
24:36
It's going to be incredible that actually have been the release
24:38
of Dragonfly that anyway, like when I I was really like I'm
24:43
going to have my boots on the ground the very first second
24:45
that I can get my boots on the ground here.
24:47
And it's going to be incredible and I'm going to be right there
24:49
in the moment, which I think is is very much a content creator
24:52
mindset, right. You really have to be the one
24:54
who's like they're ready to go the second you can.
24:58
I think I am able to kind of miss a lot of this stress
25:02
because I've just accepted that I'm not going to be there in the
25:04
beginning and other people are going to discover things first
25:07
and then when I get in it's going to be bug fixed and it's
25:10
going to be handled. So you know, maybe that would be
25:14
that. That's how I intend to cope with
25:16
it. It's just download Balder's
25:17
Gate. If it's not ready to go
25:19
tomorrow, we all say Boo. Darn, that sucks.
25:25
Hopefully it'll get better soon and then play another game.
25:28
But I understand why that's not I I'm not saying that other you
25:30
know, I understand why. That's not everyone's way of
25:32
going about things. And you're right, That's why
25:34
devs exist, to fix those things. Yeah, yeah, I I think I've been
25:38
on both sides. I have said, hey, you know what?
25:40
Like by the time I get off of work, people are already going
25:43
to be like super deep into it and like for expansions for like
25:47
major releases where it is a completely different animal than
25:51
when you're there right when the gates open.
25:54
That is like an experience in itself.
25:57
For 10 point 2.6, I'm going to try and be there when it opens
26:04
and I'll try and stream it. I have been sort of like working
26:07
over the course of the weekend to get some stuff done to free
26:11
up the time. Also, there's no telling on when
26:15
those servers will come up because last week servers were
26:17
supposed to be down for 8 hours and they're only down for three.
26:21
And if it's down for three, I don't know if I'll be like ready
26:24
in time to do that. I still have to do some work.
26:31
But like, we'll we'll see, we'll see.
26:32
I like, I'm excited for this. I really want to see what it's
26:35
what it is. I just think that they have
26:38
kind. It feels like the narrative,
26:41
like when you don't talk about something, when Blizzard doesn't
26:44
talk about something, the narrative absolutely gets away
26:47
from them. Like, people like this was
26:50
supposed to be a surprise patch, and it's not a surprise if
26:54
anybody gets to see it before anybody else.
26:56
And it's like, yeah, I could see where that narrative came up.
27:00
And I don't want to do this forensic analysis of everything,
27:04
every word that came out of Holly Longdale's mouth, every
27:08
press release that came out to be, like, did they say that?
27:11
Or like, is that like something that was like, extrapolated
27:15
based on, like, hopes and dreams of what we as a community would
27:18
want, right? Like we were after this ideal.
27:20
We thought this ideal would be cool.
27:22
We had this idea in our head and now the reality isn't living up
27:26
to that. Right.
27:27
And I I should also say like, you know it's very easy for me
27:30
to say like Oh well, it's a serve, you know, like it's just
27:32
they can't release everything all at once.
27:34
Darn well, you know, like that sucks.
27:36
It's probably a hardware issue. Don't worry about it when I am
27:39
in the US, right. And so like I get everything
27:42
released the 2nd that everyone gets access to it.
27:47
But yeah, I I I totally hear, I I think you're right that when I
27:54
I, I I think that nothing in a game this big is ever going to
27:58
make everyone happy. And I have kind of, in my own
28:02
way, sort of retreated into my own like OK, like people,
28:05
they're going to make mistakes. Devs are going to do things I
28:08
hate. I'll complain if it's big
28:10
enough, but all you know, everyone's doing their best, I
28:15
think not to bring up the dark. No, we have to stop this show.
28:17
I'm sorry, Lex, do you understand that you are a
28:20
content creator? You have to rage bait.
28:22
You have to, like, remove any and all nuance from this.
28:26
All right. Thank you.
28:27
Let's try again. Yeah, no.
28:29
Blizzard's the worst. Some people are going to get
28:32
access to this content first. I can.
28:33
This is unforgivable. They need to fire Holly
28:36
Longdale. There we go.
28:38
Like, that's better. I'm going to use that as a
28:40
little like clip. I'm going to have you, like
28:43
raging, and that's going to be the thumbnail for this entire
28:46
episode. There we go.
28:48
Thank you. But yeah, like I just, I do
28:53
think that there's a bit of that.
28:55
There's a bit of like it hurts when it falls short of the
29:01
expectations that you may have had, regardless of where those
29:04
expectations come. Like it is this gap that is
29:08
going to cause some level of disappointment, however valid
29:11
that is. Or not.
29:12
I don't want to tell people their feelings are totally
29:14
invalid but like you got to take responsibility for your your
29:18
like own mental. I guess in a way we're we're not
29:21
going into a separate topic here.
29:25
But no, I and I do also want to say I'm saying a lot of my big
29:28
fluffy, like, Oh yeah, like don't worry about it, queue up
29:30
Balder's gate. It's no big deal.
29:32
You know, I I, I should also say that when I took my day off of
29:36
work and I didn't get access to my patch until like 3 in the
29:39
afternoon, like that was really disappointing.
29:41
I've been looking forward to it all day and it it, you know, I
29:43
I've been hyped for it. And I also I remember how
29:47
heartbroken I was with the, you know, with how this Livana
29:49
storyline went and how many things I've been like hyping up
29:52
and I've been defending. Like, don't worry about it.
29:54
Like Blizzard has it under control.
29:55
Like it's going to be fine. And then it just kind of fell
29:57
apart. Like, it is also valid and
30:01
reasonable to be upset when something in a game that you
30:05
love disappoints you or something that you paid for or
30:09
that you put time aside for that you planned for, doesn't roll
30:13
out the day that it was promised to you.
30:14
Like, I don't think that we should be all going on Twitter
30:16
and screaming at devs and, you know, calling them names and
30:18
making their lives horrible. But I think it's also fair to be
30:21
upset and it's fair to be disappointed.
30:23
Like that's not an invalid or unreasonable feeling.
30:25
Yeah, yeah. So I hope that this does so well
30:31
that everybody forgives them for like, all the other shortfalls.
30:35
I don't. I genuinely have not been even
30:40
allowing myself to guess at what it could be just because I don't
30:44
want to set up those expectations for them to like
30:48
somehow miss and like, is that a defence mechanism?
30:52
I don't know, Blizzard. Just just I hope that this is
30:56
amazing and we will see tomorrow in the US and if you can stick
31:01
your head in the sand and survive Wednesday in the EU.
31:06
With that said, let's go on to our main topic of the day, which
31:11
is the big changes that are going to be coming in season
31:15
four for the Mythic plus Mythic 0 and Heroic dungeons.
31:21
So Blizzard has decided to be do this big rework to put it as
31:28
simple as possible. Heroic dungeons didn't really
31:34
have a place. You would do them a little bit
31:37
between lockouts of Mythic 0 before the season started, and
31:42
then they would absolutely have zero purpose.
31:46
Except when you had like these weird little quests like
31:50
fighting is its own reward that they had brought in, where it's
31:53
like, hey, do 5 heroics, we'll give you heroic heroic raid
31:57
gear. It's like, whoa, really OK,
32:00
right, like that. Just like they had to, like
32:03
artificially create incentive for it because there was no
32:06
reason for people to do it. As it stands, Mythic 2 has zero
32:12
place for me, but I think that it does have a place in general
32:17
but Heroic Mythic Zeros. Once this season really began,
32:22
there was a lot of those early steps that disappeared as soon
32:27
as season one started, let alone Season 2.
32:29
Season three, did you have like similar, similar experiences
32:35
with Heroic or Mythic 0 for you? Yeah.
32:37
I haven't touched a heroic dungeon.
32:41
Honestly, I don't think since Battle for Azeroth and Mythic
32:44
Zero really was more of like. I think the very first couple
32:49
weeks that Mythic Zeros were available with Dragonflight, my
32:53
Guild would use them to grind through like to grind out
32:57
quests. But very almost immediately they
33:01
became kind of a nothing. Like again, maybe if you want to
33:04
finish up a quest, but but even then you know why not just do A5
33:08
key and get slight. You know better gear and and
33:12
vault at at a better level. So I 100% agree I haven't seen
33:16
Heroics and I haven't really seen Mythic Zeros as viable if
33:20
you're doing end game content for a really long time.
33:23
Yeah, in Shadow Lands Mythic 0, the most it was a thing was
33:27
because we had like I think we had like two or three weeks of
33:32
pre season. So you can get those lockouts at
33:35
Mythic 0 lockouts 'cause remember again, Mythic 0 has
33:38
lockout. You only get loot out of it once
33:41
a week. And I remember like it being a
33:43
thing of like, oh did we all get our Mythic zeros, Do we want to
33:46
form groups? And that was cool.
33:48
And then as soon as the season started, nobody was looking for
33:52
Mythic Zero groups. So yeah, those two really don't
33:55
have a place. And I think that the highest
33:59
Mythic that doesn't have a timer should have a place.
34:04
And it seems that Blizzard and the community, that the the part
34:08
of the community that they listening to does find that,
34:11
like, yeah, that it's a mode without a niche.
34:16
Last episode, you and I were talking about mythic Dungeons,
34:20
the mega dungeons, as it were, and like I I was saying like,
34:25
yeah, you should really do it. It's cool, 'cause you get to go
34:27
in, work on it for a little bit. Maybe you don't get it done in
34:31
one night. You can come back and do the
34:33
lockout. And I think where they're
34:36
shifting Mythic 0 is that all of the dungeons are kind of going
34:40
to be like that. And so heroic dungeons are going
34:45
to move to where we kind of see where mythic dungeons are right
34:48
now. So if you're just after loot,
34:51
you now get the same relative value of loot from Mythic 0 in
34:59
the new Heroic positioning, except heroics don't have a
35:05
lockout, so you can now spam that to get the the same amount
35:10
of loop. That is going to be crazy
35:12
enough. Then Mythic Zeros have moved up
35:16
in difficulty to be roughly around Mythic 8, Mythic 10
35:22
level. And there's a couple of
35:24
stipulations that you have to understand why they have that
35:27
range and they can't say exactly 1 is because there's not going
35:30
to be any affixes in it. So without the affixes, that
35:33
reduces your mental load tremendously. 2 is that there's
35:37
not going to be any timer, so you take it as it goes.
35:40
Three is as you progress through, and this is one that
35:43
they didn't put in. As you progress through a Mythic
35:46
0, each boss you kill drops loot, which means you can trade
35:50
that loot to people in your your party and get stronger through
35:53
the progress of the dungeon. Change your gear and make sure
35:59
you've got all the gems enchanted.
36:01
Hell, if you're in the middle of a dungeon, you don't have your
36:03
keystone burden. Change your gear in the dungeon,
36:06
change your trinkets to like, be able to like deal with a
36:09
mechanic, change your talents in order to be like, OK, this is my
36:13
single target I'll use for the boss and this is my AOE target
36:16
that I'll use for the trash and be tailored towards that.
36:21
So like the relative difficulty, even though like because they
36:25
were saying Mythic 8 to Mythic 10, I'm more willing to air
36:29
towards Mythic 8 because of how you can go through it and all
36:33
the additional tools you have because you don't have that
36:35
keystone burden upon you. Then from there there is a
36:40
truncated progression of Mythic Plus.
36:44
So Mythic Two Plus is in a position where Mythic 11 used to
36:49
be in relative difficulty. Then it goes all the way up to
36:54
Mythic 10, with Mythic 10 being the same relative difficulty as
36:58
20s were. But even still, I think only 20
37:03
is exactly on par with where it used to be, as the affixes come
37:09
in tyrannical Fortified AT2 Plus at 5:00 plus you get your first
37:15
affix that actually like genuinely effects, like
37:17
mechanically what happens in the dungeon.
37:20
And then at 10 you get your last.
37:23
If you are doing a Mythic 19, well let's say it's at 18
37:27
because you're you're going by intervals of two.
37:30
If you're doing Mythic 18 right now you have all of the affixes
37:34
plus the coordinate scaling. If you do a nine next season,
37:39
you're missing an affix. Don't get the affix till 10 so
37:44
you can get mythic track gear without dealing with the the
37:48
third affix. That is huge because those are
37:51
the affixes that people seem to really hate.
37:55
Those are the ones that are on death triggers.
37:58
So no more bolstering if you're just going up to 9 or less.
38:03
No more of the fight Full is a big one that I hate, right.
38:09
And those sort of stuff are completely out of there, right?
38:13
This week we had Sanguine and Volcanic.
38:18
Well, congratulations. No Sanguine.
38:20
That's huge for in terms of like how you're passing through the
38:24
the dungeon. So I think that generally a lot
38:28
of these dungeons have been made mechanically easier.
38:32
Even if the scaling isn't it's supposed to be the same that
38:38
that's going to make it a lot more accessible, especially for
38:41
people who like maybe didn't go all the way to the top.
38:44
And the fact that like your progress is going to mean more
38:47
like you do a mythic 4, right? And it's like, hey, yeah, we we
38:52
did our our two plus, we 2 plus that and we got a four plus,
38:57
right. And you do your four plus and
38:58
you get that done. Whereas before in order to get
39:02
to the equivalent where the four would technically be a 14, you'd
39:06
have to take that two key 3 plus it to A53 plus it to an 8/3 plus
39:10
it to 11 and then three plus it to a 14, right?
39:14
How much time did it get you to take you to get to the four That
39:17
seems far better for teams that are building, far better for
39:23
teams that are just steamrolling and going right to the end and
39:28
far less time intensive in in general.
39:30
So I I generally think that this assuming that everything that
39:34
they put out there stays as as is and all of obviously this is
39:37
going to be tested and this is going to probably need some
39:41
adjustments, maybe even how much it scales between keys might get
39:44
adjusted. That's my monologue.
39:47
That was a lot. I so I think that this is one
39:51
thing that makes us great Co host because you are a higher
39:54
level player than me. So I've been thinking about this
39:57
for a very long time, but as in, you know today and I haven't
40:04
been considering the zero to 10 at all, that has not even
40:07
crossed my mind. But like how the different
40:08
effects are going to hit and how that challenge rating is going
40:10
to shift. I am really, really happy about
40:14
this because what it has done for players who are a little bit
40:17
more like me, who are looking for, you know, I don't
40:20
necessarily want to say easier content because I'm, you know,
40:23
like I rate. It's not like I don't do end
40:25
game. But more of a content that's
40:28
more about like exploring and taking your time and having fun
40:32
with your friends and relaxing and just gaming a little bit.
40:35
Not to say that you can't relax and game when you're losing your
40:38
mind over keys, but apparently some of you have fun with that.
40:42
I am really, really excited that I'm going to be able to get
40:47
mythic level gear and gear that's going to help me advance
40:51
in my rating team at at at a better, you know, at the level
40:54
that I'm hoping to without needing to touch a timer.
40:57
Like, I I know that this sounds silly to the folks who don't
41:01
mind the timers or even who enjoy timed Mythic Plus.
41:04
And who are more of mythic people who are who are pushing
41:07
the mythic Plus dungeons for those of us who do not like the
41:12
timers, it really, a lot of it really is the timer itself,
41:15
right? Because it means that if I have
41:16
a bad pull and I wipe their team, it's not just a couple
41:19
seconds of us running back to our corpse or to, you know,
41:23
running back to the position and trying to get it back up and
41:26
like annoying people a little bit.
41:27
I'm all of a sudden watching the clock.
41:28
I'm like, oh, my God, like every person who died there, we all
41:31
like, tick down a little bit more.
41:32
And all of this time to get reset up, we're taking more time
41:35
and it's taking more time. And I'm going to tank this
41:36
person's key and like, Oh my God, like everyone's like
41:39
nobody's going to get as good gear because I didn't do a good
41:41
job. And like all of that anxiety
41:43
really builds upon itself. And so for me to be able to
41:47
access the same degree of gear that I would have gotten from a
41:50
mythic 10, but without needing to touch a timer and and still
41:53
getting the challenge, still getting, you know, the the doing
41:57
higher level stuff and and worrying about mechanics more
41:59
because they hit harder. And how am I going to negotiate
42:02
all of this but not feeling like I'm ruining my team's day every
42:05
single time I don't push a button, right?
42:08
Or I stand in something and everyone dies like that.
42:11
I'm. I'm suddenly really excited
42:13
about doing mythics next season. Like this has gone from
42:16
something that I'm like, well, I guess if I have to do it for
42:17
rating like I guess I'll I'll tolerate that so that my raid
42:21
team doesn't tell me that my gear is too low and they're
42:22
going to sit me if I don't get it up.
42:24
Like this is suddenly a thing that I'm like, oh, like I'm
42:27
going to get to experience dungeons again.
42:29
Like, I'm going to get to go in and have a good time and not
42:31
just feel like I carry all the time.
42:34
So earlier in this segment you were saying like, oh the people
42:38
who Blizzard is listening to. And I am biased because I am
42:40
clearly of the mindset. Like with every single decision
42:43
Blizzard's been making, it has been proving that I am with my
42:47
mindset aligns very closely with the mindset of the players that
42:49
they're focusing on. And I think that this is really
42:57
a good idea. I think that this is going to
42:59
make the the those folks who are a little bit more anxious to do
43:04
mythics, who see mythics more of a of a, you know, applaud.
43:08
I think that this is going to make this into a lot more
43:11
exciting of and more accessible of a a style of play.
43:17
I will say I think that there is probably going to be a mindset
43:20
shift that's going to have to happen just because, you know,
43:24
when this drops, I think it's probably going to feel really
43:28
bad for people to be like, oh, I'm doing a mythic 4, right?
43:32
Like the people who've been pushing and pushing and pushing
43:34
and all of a sudden they're doing a 10.
43:36
Like, even if they know where that's coming from, I think that
43:38
there's going to be a period of time that that's still going to
43:40
feel bad. So I'm sure there's going to be
43:43
some adjustments and I'm sure they're going to have to do some
43:45
power shifts as they go. But I'm really, really excited
43:49
about this. Yeah, I you're touching on
43:52
something there that I I really, it's a it's completely a mental
43:58
thing where people are going to look at this and they're going
44:01
to be like, you know I was doing like the mythic like sevens.
44:05
I was doing mythic nines. I wasn't like I was getting my
44:09
Keystone Explorer. I was getting my I wasn't
44:11
getting quite KSM yet. And now I'm I'm not even doing
44:15
keys. I'm getting no IOI.
44:17
Like, I feel like less of a player in some way, right?
44:20
They're people who were doing like Mythic Zeros and now, oh,
44:24
I'm only doing Heroic right? And like, it's not like the loot
44:28
has changed in a way for the people doing who were doing
44:32
mythic before and now are doing what's called Heroic.
44:34
It's not like that loot has changed.
44:37
It's not like the challenge. The relative challenge should
44:40
have changed beyond, like, what you'll see from season to season
44:43
or expansion to expansion. But like, what it's called has
44:47
changed, man, that's going to rub some people the wrong way
44:52
even before they experience it. They're going to be like, I used
44:55
to be able to say it. I'm like, oh, yeah, I did.
44:57
I just didn't like the timer on the timer.
44:59
And so I didn't do Mythic Plus. And now it's like, yeah, but now
45:03
you're not doing any mythics at all.
45:05
And it's it. To them it's going to call into
45:07
question like, it's going to be like, oh, Blizzard, you're
45:10
you're checking, you're checking my gamer card.
45:13
You're like, you're why didn't you just remove the timer from,
45:17
like mythics 2 to 10? And then I could have like done
45:22
the graduation without a timer And it's like, well then that's
45:25
not really the mode that you're in.
45:26
That would be considering it a different name.
45:30
And for people who were like, you know, like I used to be able
45:32
to do Mythic eights on the regular and that's where I would
45:36
grind up the gear and I would get that gear.
45:37
And now Mythic Zeros on a lockout, like I'm getting less
45:42
gear. Blizzard, you're you're actually
45:43
hurting me because I'm getting less gear, Yes and no, right?
45:47
Remember, in a Mythic 0, you're not just getting gear at the end
45:51
like in a mythic plus the three pieces, two pieces of gear that
45:54
you would get at the end, you're getting 2-3 pieces per boss.
45:59
So a Mythic 0 that's dropping gear, that's equivalent to a
46:02
Mythic 10 and let's say it has four bosses, cause usually these
46:06
things have like 3-4 bosses, the odd one has five, right?
46:09
Let's so let's say say it's 4 bosses, that's 12 pieces of loot
46:12
that you're getting out of there.
46:13
That's equivalent to running a Mythic plus four times more
46:18
sometimes. So I think that there's like a
46:22
bit of give and take. It's not a perfect alignment for
46:25
sure. A lot of people can focus on
46:28
what they perceive to be like an attack on them.
46:33
But I think that, yeah, based on what they're putting through,
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assuming that there's no, like, misinterpretations, which I
46:40
could be just as guilty of misinterpreting, interpreting
46:44
this as the next person. But I'd like to think that it
46:48
looks fairly straightforward other than some bad wording
46:52
choices that they've used in this article.
46:56
And I think I think it should be good.
46:58
Like, I'm glad that you're excited.
47:00
I'm really excited. I will say the one thing that
47:01
I'm the more I'm thinking about this, the one other potential
47:05
risk I can see for the people who are kind of dancing in the
47:07
early Mythic zone is that all of a sudden there's no distinction
47:12
between what used to be like a Mythic 2 and a Mythic 10, right?
47:16
There's not real, like, you know, the the way that you could
47:19
step your way up to Mythic 10 difficulty that's gone now,
47:22
right? You're either doing heroics or
47:23
you're doing Mythic 0, which I think is going to be fine.
47:26
From my experience playing mythics, they're like
47:28
realistically those minuscule, like those jumps aren't massive,
47:34
especially in the OR the first like 10 or so, right?
47:37
Like if you can do a Mythic 3, you can probably do a Mythic 6.
47:41
But I can imagine that taking a little bit of of rust shaking
47:45
off and I I can also imagine the the same people that you were
47:50
saying, like people will feel like they're being questioned as
47:53
gamers. I think there's also a subset of
47:56
those folks who kind of tend to be looking over at what other
47:59
people are doing and don't love the idea of making things more
48:04
accessible because it feels like you're handing things to people
48:06
right. So I can see that being a
48:08
critique as well. But I'm sorry, Manny, I talked
48:09
over you. No, no, no.
48:11
I I was interjecting early. I can say this point right now.
48:16
If you were doing let's say like midway through, let's say Mythic
48:20
6, Mythic 7, and today you would be getting like 447 gear, 450
48:26
gear that's still on the veteran track if you were.
48:31
If you're doing heroic gear, you're getting adventure gear
48:34
which could be scaled up to that point.
48:38
So like hey, run those heroics. Get the gear upgrades that will
48:43
get you to the halfway point that maybe that gear can then
48:46
get you to. What's the Mythic 0 Which is
48:50
only giving you 454 gear champion one out of one out of
48:55
eight which your gear upgrades would get you to like basically
48:59
get you to so like you can get that gear and then be with that
49:02
gear and work it through the. I think the gear upgrade system
49:06
allows that step that might seem much larger to actually be much
49:10
smaller in in practice. And like with the gear, assuming
49:14
that you're like now being able to like take that Mythic 0 and
49:19
take it without the timer and work your way through and learn
49:22
those, learn those mechanics, then you're getting that mythic
49:26
zero gear, which is equivalent to doing like a nine or ten
49:31
plus, and with that gear again you get that step up.
49:35
You can then start having that leading into the new 2 plus,
49:40
which was the former 11 plus and stuff.
49:42
So I think, I think that gap can be solved a little bit through
49:46
gearing through that. But like I'm going to, I'm going
49:50
to say this. I have seen too many examples
49:55
this weekend alone doing the Dungeon Dojo Invitational of
49:59
people pushing way further than they thought they could.
50:02
And a lot of what might be holding you back is like a lot
50:07
of that Anxiety, Timer anxiety or just like, oh man, a Mythic
50:13
10, like, whoa, that seems so high.
50:15
Or a Mythic 20 like, I you know what?
50:17
No, I'm not going to deal with that.
50:18
I'm going to do my KSM and I'm going to end it because all I
50:23
really wanted was that mount. I've had that anxiety myself.
50:26
Like, I didn't get portals until, like, I think last season
50:30
was the first time I got a got a portal.
50:32
And I was like, oh, you know what, hey, I can do this.
50:35
And then I started like, and I got all the portals this season.
50:39
Oh man, that 15 seems crazy. And then like to get the best
50:42
loot. Now I have to go up to an 18 and
50:44
just that little thing that like that little carrot that like
50:46
maybe go a little bit further and then realize that I could
50:49
make that distance, make that trek.
50:51
Yeah. And I think the reverse of what
50:52
I was saying earlier. We're like, if you've been doing
50:55
20s, doing like a nine, it's gonna feel bad.
50:58
Like on the flip side like that, that same mental calculus can
51:02
occur in the reverse, right? Where like you know I get really
51:06
scared if somebody's like do you want to do like 15?
51:09
But if somebody was like do you want to do a Mythic 5?
51:11
Like, yeah, I can do a Mythic 5, it's a Mythic 5.
51:13
Like, what are you talking? Yeah, absolutely.
51:15
We'll do a Mythic 5 like no worries.
51:17
So I I I can see that sort of like scaling the numbers down
51:20
also making it less intimidating just on a numerical standpoint,
51:24
which might just mean me being crazy, but.
51:25
No, that that is not you being crazy.
51:27
Let's give a real World Warcraft example of this.
51:30
We have level squishes, people for that exact same calculus
51:34
thing. You invite your friend to the
51:35
game and it's like, Oh yeah, I'd I'd love to do that.
51:38
What? What do we what do we need to
51:39
do? OK, so first you got to level
51:40
your character, and you're going to need to get that all up to
51:43
like, level 120. And then we're going to gear you
51:46
through heroics and mythics, then Mythics 2 to Mythic 15.
51:51
And I'm sorry, before I ended that sentence, somebody knew.
51:53
It's just like, yeah, no, I don't want to do all that.
51:56
Yeah, I'm not getting 120 levels.
51:58
I'm not doing 120 levels. Are you crazy?
52:03
And then and then on top of that, I've got to do this and
52:05
this and another 15 of these. Like, you know what, man?
52:09
How about we just go watch some TV?
52:11
Let's let's have some fun. Let's watch some TV.
52:14
Right. Oh, do you want to do you want
52:15
to watch One Piece? Yeah.
52:16
OK, I'll. I'll try that.
52:17
OK, great. Here.
52:19
I'm currently on episode 1100 and blah, blah, blah.
52:22
And I was like, you know, no, I don't think I want to watch one
52:25
piece like this, this kind of mental aggrandizing just because
52:30
the level, the number seems so large.
52:33
It's something that World of Warcraft and a lot of media has
52:37
already dealt with before. Yeah, no, I agree.
52:41
So like, what's your what's your thoughts on Mythic 0 next
52:47
season? Are you going to be diving into
52:49
that because Mythic 0 next season they're doing a 39 item
52:53
level jump. So Mythic 0 next season, Lex,
52:56
it's going to get you some 493 gear.
52:58
Are we going to see Lex diving through Mythic Zoom?
53:02
Yeah, on my tank. Yes, on your tank.
53:07
That's going to be my real thing.
53:08
I'm going to have to have two characters going for the first
53:10
time in my life, potentially 3. If I don't get tank, I'll have
53:14
to play everyone. So I'm.
53:17
I'm hoping to promise I will make you Lex.
53:19
If you need any help with your tank, I will be there.
53:24
I'm already looking at my warlock and being like man, I
53:27
want to I want to play some of this hell caller.
53:31
I like this Diab Diablos thing. My warlock is looking very
53:36
tempting, especially when Farsi here is not doing it for me.
53:42
Luckily, Farsi here's Elemental Resto, so it's not my spec
53:46
exactly, but I will have that warlock locked and loaded for
53:51
next season if you need some DPS to back up your tank.
53:55
I really want to, actually, I I say this literally every single
53:59
season. But I think that now that
54:00
they're taking away the timer, this actually might be real.
54:03
Like a lot of the anxiety is actually going to be going away.
54:06
I want to get into mythic plus or, well, not Mythic plus.
54:08
Maybe Mythic Plus. Maybe Mythic Plus.
54:10
We'll see. We'll see.
54:10
We'll see. Zero.
54:11
We'll stay. The Mythic Plus is like,
54:13
stretch. Cool, OK.
54:15
We'll think about it. I've, I've.
54:17
We'll see. We'll see how it goes.
54:20
But I I do want to do mythics, so I will potentially take you
54:23
up. Well, OK, no, I will take you up
54:25
on that many. We are going to do at least one
54:27
mythic 0, you and I. That is, it's not even It's
54:32
gonna happen, at least. Give me a second.
54:34
I even see the catch my breath. Wait.
54:37
Listen. Listen.
54:38
Your girl's been in therapy. I know about baby steps.
54:41
I know about realistic goals. Like we're doing it properly.
54:46
OK, OK. And like JTB is saying, we got
54:49
to stream it. So the least the 1st Mythic 0 we
54:52
will stream, I will more likely get you a crack team so that you
54:58
feel all comfortable if we're going to also stream it because
55:01
streaming is a stress on its own people.
55:04
I've done some stupid things on stream this is, this is what you
55:07
got to do. You got to, you got to get dumb
55:08
really early on in streaming Manny, and just have so many
55:10
clips of you, like, standing in fire in the middle of Raid while
55:13
like leaning so close to your camera that, like, you like,
55:16
look back at it. You're like, Oh my God, Like.
55:19
What I think I've done that today where it's like I'm
55:22
playing a shooter and it's like just lean into the camera and be
55:24
like you're not dodging any better Manny by.
55:26
Leaning, but it feels. It feels like you're getting in
55:30
the mind of your character. Oh yeah.
55:33
No, I get it. I get it.
55:35
So I'm hoping that this is going to be good.
55:38
I'm glad that you're excited. I hope that the 1st Mythic 0
55:42
will not be your last. I will definitely be playing
55:48
this. This might be the first season
55:50
where I try and have two active characters running through.
55:54
I just. I really need to see more of
55:58
what the shaman has to offer in the War Within.
56:02
But even still, it's going to be fun to see that sort of stuff
56:08
play out. A lot of it.
56:09
I think once people get their hands on it, it's going to feel
56:12
a lot more natural. It's like when they when they
56:15
explain the upgrading system, it was like, what exactly?
56:18
Why is this? Like, why do they have these
56:21
names? And now after the second season
56:23
through it, Yeah, no, I get it all.
56:25
It's like, yeah, I get that. And this might be the same thing
56:28
here. Yeah.
56:29
No, I fully believe that That's how I'm feeling about tanking.
56:33
Nice. Well, with that said, we're
56:36
going to get out of here. If you want to join in the
56:39
conversation, you can check out us in our discord That is the
56:44
fast discord at bit dot LY slash fast discord lex.
56:48
Where can people find you? People can find me on Twitter X,
56:53
Blue Sky threads and and not really for a while, but
56:56
technically TikTok at Lex under score rants.
57:00
Well, they're banning that anyways.
57:01
You're fine. You're ahead of the game, that's
57:03
all. Anyway, if you need to find me
57:07
and anything I do, definitely check out Any Social Me, almost
57:11
any social media that is true. Villain Manny.
57:14
True without the E and until next time, guys.
57:17
May all your hits be crits.