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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman and Lindahl 6-6-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Jet Legwald is our Broncos insider.
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  Speaker 2: Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five Pro Football.
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  Speaker 1: The insider I've covered while.
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  Speaker 2: Jef Legwall his appearances are always must listen radio. We
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  Speaker 2: learn a lot, brought to you by the International Brotherhood
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  Speaker 2: of Electrical Workers. Start with a job and with the
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  Speaker 2: career IBW Local sixty eight. It's Leggy Well yeh yeh
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  Speaker 2: on Altitude Sports Radio five jet Legwell time on a
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  Speaker 2: SKA Friday. Excellent read this week at ESPN dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Leggy going in depth on bo Nix and the off
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  Speaker 2: season that he had. Leggy what kind of off season
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  Speaker 2: has this been for bow and how do we expect
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  Speaker 2: to see this manifest hopefully into a big step forward
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  Speaker 2: for a second year quarterback?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Nate, I guess I was most intrigued to see,
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  Speaker 3: like most rookies, what will you do with your first
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  Speaker 3: sort of real NFL off season. You know, he wasn't
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  Speaker 3: prepping for the draft, He wasn't coming out of spring
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  Speaker 3: football and going into the you know, the fall camp
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  Speaker 3: at a college. So I was intrigued just as how
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  Speaker 3: he approached it. And you know, I think, like most guys,
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  Speaker 3: they discover throwing less is a component in there, and
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  Speaker 3: I think physically that was a big thing for him.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I asked him about it.
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  Speaker 3: I've talked to other people about it because I had
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  Speaker 3: been told he dialed back on purpose. And I think,
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  Speaker 3: you know, some of that is, ah, just kind of
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  Speaker 3: what he's been through in six years of college football
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  Speaker 3: and the rest of it, you know, so long in
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  Speaker 3: college football. But I think overall, I think it's just
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  Speaker 3: about him getting a comfort level with the job. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you're you're the centerpiece of an NFL organization, whether you
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  Speaker 3: like it or not, whether you want it or not,
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  Speaker 3: it's a fact. And you know, every player you talk to,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what their resume says.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: They sort of all start right now that this is
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  Speaker 3: Bo Nixon's team. And you know that's how the NFL works.
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  Speaker 3: Uh uh, you know, unless you know there's just somebody
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  Speaker 3: on the other side of the ball so dominant or
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  Speaker 3: another position, it's the quarterbacks team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, even with the defensive player of the year right
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  Speaker 2: there on your roster. And you know you meant you
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  Speaker 2: mentioned the the the step forward that he that he
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  Speaker 2: is taking in terms of his place within the pecking
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  Speaker 2: order of the franchise. What has he done this offseason
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  Speaker 2: to kind of put himself in that position? Because I
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  Speaker 2: do think he's a guy that wants it, and based
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  Speaker 2: on what I read in your piece, like he's acting
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  Speaker 2: like he wants it. How has he's sort of taken
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  Speaker 2: that command of this organization.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think it's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: He's you know, he's obviously done his homework and listens
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  Speaker 3: when he talks to people. You know, because Hufanga said
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  Speaker 3: it yesterday, you know he or Evan Ingram rather said
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  Speaker 3: it yesterday when he came on his visit, you know,
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  Speaker 3: bow Nicks came to meet him for lunch. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you talk to other guys, who's the first player, one
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  Speaker 3: of the first players to text you after you signed?
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  Speaker 3: Bow Nicks is one of the first players. So he's
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  Speaker 3: he's obviously paid attention. And when he's been watching other leaders,
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  Speaker 3: he respected or asked other people about it, because I
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  Speaker 3: think it's just things like that in house that that
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  Speaker 3: make you a leader. And I think the biggest thing
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  Speaker 3: he does is he does it by example more than
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  Speaker 3: you know, shouting. You're not seeing him on the practice
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  Speaker 3: field in between drills very often doing the old you know,
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  Speaker 3: come on, let's have a great drill type of thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's more about everyone knows he was the first one
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  Speaker 3: in there. Everyone knows he did every amount of homework
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  Speaker 3: he needed to do.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone knows he's prepared.
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  Speaker 3: He just doesn't by showing people he's he's accountable for
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  Speaker 3: what he's saying when he when he does talk to people.
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  Speaker 5: All Right, what are you gleaning from these training, these
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  Speaker 5: mini camp practices, the OTAs, whatever it is. We watch
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  Speaker 5: just day mini camps next week, just to be official
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  Speaker 5: about it.
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  Speaker 1: But what do you see in there, Jeff?
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  Speaker 5: Because to me, I told Nate yesterday, I think he
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  Speaker 5: kind of felt the same way. This in the hot
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  Speaker 5: take hot take kind of camp. Right, we're not out
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  Speaker 5: there this roster, most of it's returned. Guy's roles seem
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  Speaker 5: pretty clearly defined. So what are you taking away from
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  Speaker 5: the proceedings out there?
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  Speaker 1: From what you've seen?
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  Speaker 3: You know, you know, and you'll over the years. I'm
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  Speaker 3: big on rotations this time of year. I want to
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  Speaker 3: see what they think of the depth chart, and just
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  Speaker 3: by how they rotate in and out, you can see
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  Speaker 3: what they think of the depth chart. And a big
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  Speaker 3: thing for me, it doesn't move the needle for maybe
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  Speaker 3: a lot of folks. But I like to see where
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  Speaker 3: they're moving the rookies in and out of some of
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  Speaker 3: these looks. And you know, like yesterday Kean Richardson got
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  Speaker 3: a little more run than he did, you know, a
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  Speaker 3: week ago. So it just tells you, you know, kind
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  Speaker 3: of how they're thinking in the moment. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I tell people all the time, if there's one conclusion
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  Speaker 3: to draw from these types of things, it's that you
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't draw too many conclusions. I keep an eye on
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  Speaker 3: the rotations because that tells you where people are in
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  Speaker 3: the pecking order at that moment. Doesn't mean anything in September,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't even mean anything in August, but it just shows you.
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  Speaker 4: Where people are right now.
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  Speaker 3: And if rookies have moved up in that, that tells
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  Speaker 3: you those guys are are preparing and doing well with
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  Speaker 3: the installs. But a lot of these practices, and you
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  Speaker 3: know you've seen, I mean, it's very specific game situations
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  Speaker 3: broken down to very small details. You know, they'll do
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  Speaker 3: third and eight plays, you know, repetitively, they'll do second
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  Speaker 3: and eight, you know, repetitively.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's just a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Small installs that they want to see where they're at
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  Speaker 3: with a certain grouping of plays.
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  Speaker 1: You know what is.
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  Speaker 5: Interesting because you bring up the rookies and one of
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  Speaker 5: the guys that caught my mind my eye yesterday. First off,
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  Speaker 5: I told everybody he's got a proper number on so
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  Speaker 5: that makes me happy. But I thought he might be
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  Speaker 5: a tight end because how big he is, and that's
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  Speaker 5: Adie jo Keen Davis. He made a nice catch along
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  Speaker 5: the sideline of LA He came back to the ball
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  Speaker 5: a little bit as mentioning to Nate, and Nate brought
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  Speaker 5: up a great point, especially with how many people are
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  Speaker 5: on the roster back, is there even really a receipt
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  Speaker 5: were slat open on this roster right now?
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  Speaker 4: I don't see it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you figure they keep you start keeping five
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  Speaker 3: and you get to that number pretty fast, and.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think there's much room in any position.
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  Speaker 3: Frankly, you know, we know John ay Barron's gonna play,
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  Speaker 3: we know Harvey's gonna play. I think Richardson will make
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  Speaker 3: the roster because he was He was probably my best
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  Speaker 3: special teams.
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  Speaker 4: Player on the board, let alone what he can do
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  Speaker 4: on defense.
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  Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a hard go for some of
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  Speaker 3: these guys and I think that's why you didn't see
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  Speaker 3: the really big signing bonus undrafted free agents here, because
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  Speaker 3: agents and players both look at this roster and it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be a hard one to crack if if you know,
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  Speaker 3: they didn't have a vision for you the moment they
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  Speaker 3: they brought you in the building.
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  Speaker 2: Talking to Jeff Legweld here on a Friday afternoon, Leggy,
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  Speaker 2: I know we shouldn't make a whole bunch out of
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  Speaker 2: highlights that you're watching in OTAs. That's that I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: make a big deal out of a couple of highlights
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  Speaker 2: from OTAs, specifically the splash plays of the two practices
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  Speaker 2: that have been open, there was a similarity there.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: One was a back shoulder to Courtland Sutton last week.
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  Speaker 2: The other was a throw to Valet that he high
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  Speaker 2: pointed yesterday. But both of them are you know, they
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  Speaker 2: would fall into that category of the throw outside the numbers.
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  Speaker 2: That has to be a next step for bow Knicks.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that's an emphasis right now? Like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if Bo's ever going to be great at
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  Speaker 2: that throw, but if he can become serviceable at that throw,
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  Speaker 2: that is just another weapon that this offense needs. To
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  Speaker 2: have in the tool belt.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's an admission on the Broncos part.
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  Speaker 3: They know it's coming. They know people are really good.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you're as a defense, you're not to take
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  Speaker 3: away everything in the middle of the fields.
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  Speaker 4: It's impossible.
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  Speaker 1: But those crossers, you know they're coming.
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  Speaker 3: You know that people are gonna try to pinch him
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  Speaker 3: outside the numbers, because look, they tried it the other
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  Speaker 3: way and he finished with twenty nine touchdowns. So and
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  Speaker 3: I think he knows, you know, I often talk about
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  Speaker 3: his self awareness as a quarterback. He's very good at
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  Speaker 3: sort of studying and seeing, Okay, you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: people are coming at me from this. I also think
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  Speaker 3: that's why Sean Payton has been very He likes big
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  Speaker 3: framed receivers anyway, but he's been very cognizant of giving
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  Speaker 3: bon Nicks big physical targets who can make those contested
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  Speaker 3: catches on the boundary. I mean, hell, that's why Pat
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  Speaker 3: Bryant was a draft pick around and a half or
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  Speaker 3: two rounds better here than he would have been for
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  Speaker 3: a lot of other teams, because his one of his
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  Speaker 3: best skills is big physical receiver in a contested catch mode.
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  Speaker 3: So they're building things, and in sort of you can
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  Speaker 3: see it already in these workouts. They're working toward things
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  Speaker 3: they think they're gonna get, and you know that's a
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  Speaker 3: good thing to do if you're them. I would also
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  Speaker 3: put a nice little wheel route Harvey had yesterday on
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  Speaker 3: a little real too, because you're going to see that
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  Speaker 3: about thirty times this year, I think at minimum.
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  Speaker 4: All right, JK.
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  Speaker 5: Dobbins, what do you think happens there? Nothing, no big
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  Speaker 5: splash signing out the door. And what is the situation
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  Speaker 5: with Tim? Tyler was quick to point out to me
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  Speaker 5: that he's a tender player for the Chargers.
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  Speaker 1: What's all the deal there?
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  Speaker 4: You don't see it very often.
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  Speaker 3: It's you know, it's one of those situations where they'd
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  Speaker 3: like to keep him, but it's a very crowded backfield.
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  Speaker 3: They've they've added a lot of players there, so you
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  Speaker 3: don't often see the unrestricted tender.
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  Speaker 4: But that's what they've done.
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  Speaker 3: He's basically got to right before Cam July twenty second,
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  Speaker 3: I think July twenty second or twenty third, he has
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  Speaker 3: to sign with another team or the Chargers have his
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  Speaker 3: exclusive negotiating rights after that. So tells me no, one's
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  Speaker 3: hit his number to this point. But if you are
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  Speaker 3: a team and you're interested in him, you're gonna wait
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  Speaker 3: close to that deadline or he's stuck with negotiating with
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  Speaker 3: the Chargers at that point. So if he is signed
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  Speaker 3: by the Broncos or anyone else, unless somebody changes their
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  Speaker 3: mind at this point, and the Broncos could certainly do that,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying they wouldn't, but obviously no one's hit
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  Speaker 3: his number, but that numbers probably coming down the closer
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  Speaker 3: to the deadline it gets.
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  Speaker 2: That's Jeff Legwall and everybody got the latest on the JK.
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  Speaker 2: Dobbins thing right there. Jeff Legwall brought to you by
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  Speaker 2: the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers IBEW Local sixty eight.
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  Speaker 2: Start with a job and with a career. Leggy, Andy
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  Speaker 2: and I have been sort of kicking around this week,
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  Speaker 2: some stuff going on around the rest of the AFC West,
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  Speaker 2: kind of looking where Denver sits right now in the
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  Speaker 2: pecking order. And look, there's there's three very playoff worthy
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  Speaker 2: teams in this division, without a doubt, and then there's
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  Speaker 2: the Raiders. But I find the Raiders very interesting this year. Jeff, Like,
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  Speaker 2: how much better are the Raiders, who, without a doubt
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  Speaker 2: have a flawed roster and they've been beset by injuries
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  Speaker 2: in recent years. But how much does having an actual
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  Speaker 2: competent head coach and an actual competent quarterback in Geno Smith?
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  Speaker 2: How much does that elevate what we know is a
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  Speaker 2: subpar roster. But is that enough to make the Raiders
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  Speaker 2: kind of dangerous?
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  Speaker 3: Well, of course, I think people in Denver you don't
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  Speaker 3: have to look very far with how much did it
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  Speaker 3: mean to the Broncos with the hired John Fox?
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  Speaker 4: You know how much did it mean when they hired
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  Speaker 4: Sean Payton? You know?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you you take the roster you had, and simply
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  Speaker 3: by knowing what you're doing, you know, you elevate things
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  Speaker 3: and you you know, you eliminate Look, the margins for
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  Speaker 3: air are so small in the NFL, it doesn't take
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  Speaker 3: much to make a big difference. If you avoid sort
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  Speaker 3: of doing damage to yourself. I mean, that's an enormous thing.
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  Speaker 3: Mike Shanahan would talk to me about it all the time.
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  Speaker 3: But how significant is simply avoiding damage to yourself makes
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  Speaker 3: you in the playoff mix? And they will have that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you can say Pete Carroll did this or
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  Speaker 3: did that was boring on offense, whatever you want to say.
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  Speaker 3: Those they were in the mix, you know all the time,
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  Speaker 3: simply by the how they approach things. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think Geno Smith has proven, you know, he can
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  Speaker 3: get things done if framed in the right kind of offense,
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  Speaker 3: and he will be framed in the right gun.
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  Speaker 2: Offense's got two stars. I mean, we're assuming Kent he
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  Speaker 2: is going to be a star in Bowers is. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we were joking about this yesterday. Bowers is the best
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver in the entire AFC West right now, and
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  Speaker 2: he plays tight ends. So yeah, there's good weapons around him.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I just I wrote this down. Everybody
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  Speaker 2: get this tattooed on your arm. Simply by knowing what
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  Speaker 2: you're doing, you elevate things. Jeff Legwall, That's easy, old,
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  Speaker 2: that's right.
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  Speaker 4: Some would say, I have no idea what I'm talking
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  Speaker 4: about there.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of makes sense to me simply by knowing what
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  Speaker 2: you're doing, which feels like a low bar for an
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  Speaker 2: NFL head coach. And yet it's astounding how many of
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  Speaker 2: them can't do that.
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  Speaker 5: Jeff, why didn't you give that the fox eat the
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  Speaker 5: paint on the walls with all the other stuff he
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  Speaker 5: put up there.
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  Speaker 4: Huh, that's similar to skins on the wall.
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  Speaker 1: Will Will Dun's better than Will said.
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  Speaker 4: I think I remember that. It's a bigger, better, faster,
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  Speaker 4: stronger lead. You know.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I've heard. He's Jeff Legwald, everybody ESPN dot com.
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  Speaker 2: His latest on bo Nicks is terrific and you should
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  Speaker 2: read it right now.
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  Speaker 1: Leggie will talk to you Monday. Thanks man, Thank care.
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  Speaker 4: Vollas, we'll see it.