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Mac & Bone Show - Richie Randall Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: But right now, nothing random more crappy about this. We
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  Speaker 1: have to present and kick around the questions that all
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  Speaker 1: Hornets fans are discussing amongst themselves, and we're discussing on
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  Speaker 1: this show. What are they going to do next? What's
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Peterson's plan? We know he has one and there's
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  Speaker 1: something to be said for that. But let's now throw
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  Speaker 1: those questions at a man who has been kicking them
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  Speaker 1: around on his own podcast podcast, the popular Buzzbeat podcast
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  Speaker 1: about all things Charlotte Hornets. Richie Randall, a man simply
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  Speaker 1: known as Handles Randall, and if you've seen him handle
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  Speaker 1: the rock you know why he is with us on
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  Speaker 1: the Mack and Bone Show. Ritchie, what's going on? Brother?
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming back on.
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  Speaker 2: Man, Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it, appreciate you being here. So let's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: let's start here with just what's happened as far as
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  Speaker 1: the trades, I mean, what's your We've gotten a week remove,
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  Speaker 1: you know, plus remove from the LaMelo trade, a few
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  Speaker 1: days away from the miles trade. Do you feel differently
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  Speaker 1: now than you did originally? You know about these trades?
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  Speaker 1: Have you changed your stance? A lot of fans seem
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  Speaker 1: like they've calmed down, but there's a lot of fans
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  Speaker 1: that are still as ticked as they were the day
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  Speaker 1: they found out, you know, about Mello.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty even keeled, so I don't really get
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  Speaker 2: my emotions too high or too low based on these things.
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  Speaker 2: But I truly understand why fans are feeling the way
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  Speaker 2: that they were about LaMelo, just because of the fact
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  Speaker 2: that he is a talent, he's a personality, He's a
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  Speaker 2: player that people kind of gravitated towards, and really he
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  Speaker 2: kind of fell into Charlotte's lap when Wiseman was selected,
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  Speaker 2: you know, at the two overall pick, and he was
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  Speaker 2: selected number three. But I think my reasoning behind this
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  Speaker 2: and just kind of my overall thoughts about this, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's changed a little bit, but not too much. You're
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  Speaker 2: trying to envision what Jeff Peterson is trying to do here,
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  Speaker 2: and I almost wonder how much Jeff Peterson, you know,
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  Speaker 2: didn't want this step to be skipped. He didn't know
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  Speaker 2: that this team was going to be so successful this
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  Speaker 2: past season, and it kind of put them in an
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  Speaker 2: odd position in terms of, Okay, we need to build
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  Speaker 2: off of this success. But maybe in his eyes, he
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  Speaker 2: had no intention of being this good, and maybe he
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  Speaker 2: wanted to worry about next year and see where they
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  Speaker 2: could go from there. So the fans obviously are upset
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  Speaker 2: when they traded LaMelo because you know, he played so well,
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  Speaker 2: he was healthy. But I almost feel as if he
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  Speaker 2: feels as if Melo is not the answer moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe with his health, his style of play, other factors,
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  Speaker 2: it made sense for them to move him. And I
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  Speaker 2: think Jeff Peterson saw that. And you look at the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs and you just wonder, if LaMelo is built for
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  Speaker 2: a physical, drawn out series of six or seven games,
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  Speaker 2: can he withstand that? So when you look at it
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  Speaker 2: from that point of view, you can kind of start
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  Speaker 2: to reason with it a little bit more. You've got
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  Speaker 2: some financial obligations coming up with Brandon Miller, Konkin Nipple,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, you can argue about the optics of how
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  Speaker 2: it looks, or argue over the return that they got
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  Speaker 2: in at trade, but they must have felt that this
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  Speaker 2: was the best package that they could have got and
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  Speaker 2: they didn't want to risk maybe ruining his value if
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  Speaker 2: they went into next season with him and built off
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  Speaker 2: the success and then he got injured. But in terms
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  Speaker 2: of Miles Bridge is trade. Like I that was just
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  Speaker 2: a long time coming, and once when Ball was traded,
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  Speaker 2: it just seems like that was the next Domino.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely, no doubt about it. And Richie, the fact that
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  Speaker 1: you're even keeled and you don't get too high too low.
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  Speaker 1: You're on the perfect show because that's what all of
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  Speaker 1: us do here. Baby, you know what I mean. We
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  Speaker 1: are never gonna get too higher too low. All right. No,
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  Speaker 1: I like a lot of what you said. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of what you said makes sense. I do. I think,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. And we're going to talk about Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Peterson later because and like where fans are at, because
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  Speaker 1: there are some extremes talking about getting too high too low.
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  Speaker 1: There are some extremes that we and I've been seeing
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  Speaker 1: on our text liner on Twitter from fans where it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, this do better be if
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  Speaker 1: if we don't win the next two years, he better
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  Speaker 1: be fired. Like this guy had like almost one hundred
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  Speaker 1: percent approval rating from our fan base before these trades.
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  Speaker 1: And like the one thing that I like about like
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  Speaker 1: you can't you have to acknowledge he has a play
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  Speaker 1: and it's concocted and it's patient, and I at least
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  Speaker 1: respect a plan, even if I wouldn't have traded LaMelo necessarily.
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  Speaker 1: I think, don't you think that fans should at least
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  Speaker 1: acknowledge that, unlike pass front offices, there is a plan here,
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  Speaker 1: even if we're a little impatient, there is a plan, Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we don't know exactly what is like
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  Speaker 2: behind his thinking, what the plan is. He's always stated that,
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  Speaker 2: like he's not trying to skip steps. He's taking the
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  Speaker 2: patient approach. He doesn't want to be a one hit
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  Speaker 2: wonder where they make it to the playoffs for one year,
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  Speaker 2: they build all that success and they kind of go
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  Speaker 2: all in and then they realize they've got to blow
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  Speaker 2: it up in a year or two. So I think
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  Speaker 2: he's more about this, you know, sustained success over the
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  Speaker 2: course of five, six, seven years, and that's what he's
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  Speaker 2: trying to go for. And you look at all the
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  Speaker 2: moves around the NBA right now, there's there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of movement, a lot of activity. It's going to be
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  Speaker 2: very hard for the show and Hornet's to build off
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  Speaker 2: that success coming into this season. Not to say that
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Peterson knew that these moves were going to be made.
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  Speaker 2: But you do have to give him the benefit of
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  Speaker 2: the doubt because it feels as if every move that
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  Speaker 2: he's made up until the LaMelo Ball trade, people have
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  Speaker 2: approved highly of everything that he's done, and so in
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  Speaker 2: the back of his mind, he clearly knows what he
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  Speaker 2: is trying to accomplish. I just think the optics, as
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  Speaker 2: I said before, because he played so well, it feels
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  Speaker 2: weird trading him this off season. But I can't really
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  Speaker 2: argue with the way that he's operated this organization. And
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  Speaker 2: obviously they've brought some good players in as well, like
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  Speaker 2: Nasrie Grayson, Allen rorce O'Neil. They may not be as
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  Speaker 2: good as they were last year, but I don't necessarily
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  Speaker 2: feel like they're going to fall off too too much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that last part, and listen, I am.
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  Speaker 1: I'm torn, like there's a rational side of me that's
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  Speaker 1: trying to step back and just look at this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of the way the national media is, and they're
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  Speaker 1: falling all over you know, the Jeff Peterson moves. So
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  Speaker 1: I do see how rational is and I do feel like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff's gonna pounce with these assets at some point. The
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  Speaker 1: fan in me, you know, is like the devil on
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  Speaker 1: the other shoulder, saying he could win fifty games. If
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  Speaker 1: we kept this core together, we could have won fifty games.
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  Speaker 1: You know how much fun it was last year. So
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  Speaker 1: I do kind of have a little of an inner battle.
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  Speaker 1: What did you feel like the Jalen Brown trade when
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  Speaker 1: we all saw oh, it took Paul George and was
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  Speaker 1: only two first Like, did you feel like it was
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  Speaker 1: a missed opportunity for the Hornets or does that not
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  Speaker 1: really bother you that they may have flirted with them
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  Speaker 1: but ultimately didn't do anything.
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  Speaker 2: To be honest, I wasn't a huge huge fan of
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown. I think he's a good basketball player. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: those were ports about him being the seventh best basketball
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  Speaker 2: player in the Celtics obviously are overblown. I never thought
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  Speaker 2: the Hornets were going to be in on him. Obviously
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  Speaker 2: there's a previous relationship obviously with Charles Lee in Boston,
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  Speaker 2: and we talk about that huge traded player exception that
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  Speaker 2: the Hornets created by trading LaMelo Ball. Well, he couldn't
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  Speaker 2: fit into that, so they were going to have to
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  Speaker 2: give up something in salary to go get him, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe the package was a little bit underwhelming. I think
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  Speaker 2: Paul George is still underrated at this point in his career,
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  Speaker 2: but he's obviously aging. But just the yeah, the limited
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  Speaker 2: package there obviously could have been something that Hornets fans
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  Speaker 2: are saying, Hey, we could have gone after Jalen Brown,
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  Speaker 2: But again, I don't know where he fit into this roster.
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  Speaker 2: If you're trying to build around continent full Brandon Miller,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that's a very clunky fit between two, three,
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  Speaker 2: four in that roster, you already traded for Nasrie, who
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  Speaker 2: should be slotted into the four. And yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily think that was the way that they wanted to go.
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  Speaker 2: And with the way that Charles Lee has this team
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  Speaker 2: operating on offense, it feels as if they liked the
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  Speaker 2: ball to move and pop. Jalen Brown seems like a
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  Speaker 2: guy that wants the ball in his hands. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to slow down the offensive times. So I don't necessarily fit.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't fit stylistically with the team. So while the
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  Speaker 2: package might have been underwhelming and it got you thinking, hey,
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  Speaker 2: Hornets could could have got in on this trade, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it fits with what they're trying to do.
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  Speaker 1: All right, here's the most important question of this of
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  Speaker 1: this interview to Richie Randall the Buzzbeat podcast. The summer
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  Speaker 1: League roster dropped yesterday. I know you have looked at it.
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  Speaker 1: I know you have fantasized of a back to back
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  Speaker 1: Summer League champ. Is that roster a repeat champion roster?
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  Speaker 1: Richie Randall?
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  Speaker 2: It is if the players were to play all the games,
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  Speaker 2: so I could see, like Seon James and Ryan Kachburn
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  Speaker 2: are just playing a couple of games, getting their feet wet,
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  Speaker 2: and then it's just shutting them down just for maybe
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  Speaker 2: injury's sake. But I'm very interested, more so with the rookies,
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  Speaker 2: just because I don't watch college basketball all that much.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very interested to see how Steinbeck plays Christian Anderson Junior.
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  Speaker 2: I think when you look at this roster, like, is
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  Speaker 2: he the truest that word, the truest point guard on
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  Speaker 2: this team with his ability to play out of the
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  Speaker 2: pick and roll. That's what I do worry about this team.
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  Speaker 2: There's not a lot of players that have the ability
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  Speaker 2: to play point guard, a lot of combo guards. And
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  Speaker 2: then another player that I'm very interested in is Tjan
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  Speaker 2: Salon like you look at the four position for the roster,
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  Speaker 2: it is very deep. It feels like he's towards the
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  Speaker 2: end of depth chart because of what he's shown or
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  Speaker 2: not shown in these past couple of seasons. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: interested to see how he plays. And obviously some of
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  Speaker 2: the is not the best like environment to kind of
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  Speaker 2: gauge these guys just because of the talent a level
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  Speaker 2: around them. But when you look at the roster, yes,
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  Speaker 2: it is a team that could repeat. But I do
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  Speaker 2: think they're probably going to shut down Kawberner and see
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  Speaker 2: on James at some point in Thummer League, and then
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  Speaker 2: maybe they just kind of fall off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would make sense. I still would like them
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  Speaker 1: to get the printer ready for the T shirts. I
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  Speaker 1: still would like that to occur. But you're so right
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  Speaker 1: about the rookies. We talked about that earlier. I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to it. Man, we will see. If you guys
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  Speaker 1: want Hornets talk year round. Buzzbeat podcast. Great place to
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  Speaker 1: go with Richie Randall and the boys. Thank you, Richie,
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  Speaker 1: have a great fourth man. Appreciate you coming on.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Have a good fourth. Also on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: I'm releasing an episode with Gordon Haywards. If you guys
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  Speaker 2: want to look out for that.
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  Speaker 1: Very nice, very cool. All right, everybody check that out.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Richie, be good brother. All Right, there you go.
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  Speaker 1: That is Richie Randall. Buzzbeat Podcast