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275: Godzilla Meltdown · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Danielle Harris. So I am now maybe,
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  Speaker 1: quite possibly, one of the newest members of Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 1: If I can ever actually get to the movies. But
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  Speaker 1: I'll review some old 80s rom-coms for you.
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  Speaker 2: See ya.
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  Speaker 3: It had to be you.
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  Speaker 4: It had to be you.
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  Speaker 5: I wandered around and finally found the somebody who.
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  Speaker 6: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 6: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences
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  Speaker 6: and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 7: It's showtime, folks.
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  Speaker 6: Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 8: Our nuclear reactor, pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 9: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 7: I am Brian and we are coming to you live
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  Speaker 7: via digital recording from Wonderfest.
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  Speaker 3: And joining us is Patrick.
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  Speaker 10: Hi Meltdown fans.
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: Don't be so excited depression hurts and coming back for
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  Speaker 2: the 17th time out of that.
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  Speaker 5: Blast i haven't learned my lesson mr.
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  Speaker 10: Eric chew hi there welcome back.
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  Speaker 9: We need an applause wheel we we uh.
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  Speaker 2: I i think reasonable facsimile i think at this point
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  Speaker 2: we're just adopting you i i don't i don't know
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  Speaker 2: that you want it but that's usually what seems to
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  Speaker 2: be there's only a handful of guests we've adopted into
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  Speaker 2: the fold, and you can fight it as much as
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  Speaker 2: you want, as Daniel Harris has tried for years, but no,
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  Speaker 2: we adopted her anyway, and you've fallen into that now.
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  Speaker 2: So if you want some sort of prize to mark
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  Speaker 2: this momentous occasion.
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  Speaker 10: You can come claim a t-shirt or whatever you want.
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  Speaker 10: But welcome back to the show, your second home.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 10: So how have things been since last we talked to you?
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  Speaker 10: I know you.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing all kinds of non-geeky things. Got married, but you've,
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  Speaker 2: I think, taken another step.
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  Speaker 3: Getting married is non-geeky?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, we decided last year. I called you out for it.
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  Speaker 3: It's legitimate. It's legitimate.
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  Speaker 10: I called you out.
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  Speaker 2: For it because he went and got married. And then, like,
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  Speaker 2: the most conventional things.
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  Speaker 10: I believe you've had a child.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 3: Offspring.
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  Speaker 10: Alien spawn.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's basically it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, his name's Taylor. We nicknamed him Chuthulu.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a laugh.
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  Speaker 9: Was he born with tentacles?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he cut his hands and everything. And he's a joy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's.
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  Speaker 5: His first time being a dad, and it's a very
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  Speaker 5: different experience than what I've been led to believe.
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  Speaker 10: But it never stops. That's all I know.
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  Speaker 5: Um, no, but, uh, you know, uh, and it gets
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  Speaker 5: me thinking, um, um, I took him to a department
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  Speaker 5: store just, uh, just a month ago and the salespeople
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  Speaker 5: gave him a, uh, a balloon, one.
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  Speaker 3: Of those human built balloons on a string.
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  Speaker 5: And he was, this is the first time he'd ever
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  Speaker 5: seen the balloon. And he was, screaming and laughing and
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  Speaker 5: giggling all the way home and it got me wondering,
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  Speaker 5: oh my god, you know, I'm at this age where
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  Speaker 5: the simple pleasures of a balloon, you know, I'm jaded
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  Speaker 5: to that. You know, I can't remember when I was
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  Speaker 5: that happy.
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  Speaker 1: To get a balloon.
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  Speaker 10: You are pretty jaded.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So, it is very much looking at the world with
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  Speaker 5: new eyes and I do want him to, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: he laughs a lot, he's discovering the world and, and,
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  Speaker 5: When it comes to things geeky, I think I do
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  Speaker 5: want to raise him right, and I do want to
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  Speaker 5: introduce him to this genre, this world that we are in,
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  Speaker 5: but introduce him right.
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  Speaker 9: Does that not include the original three?
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  Speaker 2: The episode one through three of Star Wars. That's how
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  Speaker 2: all geeks have to feel. That's the situation they all
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  Speaker 2: find themselves in now is like, What do I make
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  Speaker 2: him watch and how do I let him experience Star Wars?
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  Speaker 5: Well, my feeling is that he should start with basically
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  Speaker 5: with puppets and miniatures and rubber suits and all of
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  Speaker 5: that and to the cell animation. And I don't want
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  Speaker 5: to introduce him to CG just yet because I've seen
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  Speaker 5: so many kids these days.
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  Speaker 3: They're started off in CG and they won't go backwards.
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  Speaker 3: They won't.
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  Speaker 5: Give the old stuff a chance. And the old stuff
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  Speaker 5: is really, really good.
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 5: It was a case of, okay, there are wires, there's
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  Speaker 5: green screen, you can see there's seams on the rubber suits,
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  Speaker 5: but you had to fill.
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  Speaker 9: In the gaps.
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  Speaker 5: And you got more invested in it and you got
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  Speaker 5: more excited. I've seen so many kids who have grown
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  Speaker 5: up on the Avengers and Transformers, the movie, and.
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  Speaker 3: They don't get really excited about things anymore. Not like
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  Speaker 3: the way we got excited about.
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  Speaker 5: The latest Rubber Monster movie.
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  Speaker 10: I think all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: That's our segue, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think all that stuff you have to fill
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  Speaker 2: in the blanks there. I think that sort of fires
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  Speaker 2: your imagination when you're a kid, and you don't have that.
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  Speaker 10: If everything is available to you, you don't have to
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  Speaker 10: use your imagination. You don't want.
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  Speaker 3: Them to look back and say, well, that's so fake,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to watch it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well.
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  Speaker 10: Sometimes that's where the best stuff lies.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 10: You never know.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, as much as I will knock it,
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  Speaker 2: he's a ridiculously cute kid, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: What to tell you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still not sure how this came from you, but
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  Speaker 2: congratulations either way.
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  Speaker 3: Shall I explain it to you in detail?
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  Speaker 2: Only if you can use diagrams. I want to see
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  Speaker 2: you draw some stuff in detail.
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  Speaker 3: I'll do a flip book for you.
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  Speaker 10: Make use of the art and, you know, really bring
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  Speaker 10: it to life.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah maybe a pop-up book.
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  Speaker 10: I have one of those actually never mind that's a
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  Speaker 10: different story all right um do you are you just
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  Speaker 10: dying to get into this movie is that what you're.
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  Speaker 3: Telling me not really no.
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  Speaker 2: We can wander around other geek things have you seen
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  Speaker 2: anything else you want to talk to you we've been
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: talking about x-men this weekend you want to Ease your
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  Speaker 2: way in with some X-Men?
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  Speaker 9: You haven't seen X-Men?
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  Speaker 3: No, I haven't seen X-Men.
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  Speaker 9: Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: I was preparing for this show.
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  Speaker 10: That's true. All your focus should have gone, you know.
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  Speaker 5: No, the other thing I've been working on is I've
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  Speaker 5: started working with Jamie Anderson, who is Jerry Anderson's son.
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  Speaker 5: And for those of you who don't remember Jerry Anderson,
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  Speaker 5: he was the creator of Thunderbirds, Supercar, Fireball XL5.
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  Speaker 3: Space 1999. The real shit.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the stuff that I was excited about when I
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  Speaker 5: was a kid.
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  Speaker 10: Stuff that fuels that imagination.
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  Speaker 3: And so his father died quite maybe a year or
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  Speaker 3: two ago.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, we were talking about him last year.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's really taken upon himself to... to take
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  Speaker 5: whatever properties that are still left under the Jerry Anderson
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  Speaker 5: banner and look into resurrecting it.
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  Speaker 3: So just, I think, last month, they had Andercon.
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  Speaker 5: They put on the first official Jerry Anderson convention sanctioned
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  Speaker 5: by the Anderson family.
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  Speaker 7: Where was that?
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  Speaker 3: In London.
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  Speaker 5: And I think it was just sort of a testing
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  Speaker 5: ground to see how many people, you know, is that
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  Speaker 5: interest still alive?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And, um, I think maybe about two or three weeks
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  Speaker 5: before the event, they completely sold out.
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  Speaker 3: And, uh, that's England. I mean, there, it is a
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  Speaker 3: nostalgic thing there.
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  Speaker 10: They're a very different market than.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, there, there is a, there's quite a,
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  Speaker 5: I found that there's quite a nostalgic following here too. Um,
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  Speaker 5: and so, uh, I'm, I'm hoping that, um, he's able
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  Speaker 5: to resurrect some of his father's old stuff and maybe
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  Speaker 5: start creating new properties that will follow in his father's footsteps.
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  Speaker 5: So his father, during the last few years, I think
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  Speaker 5: was trying to take his old properties and update them
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  Speaker 5: for a newer audience. And so he produced something called
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  Speaker 5: the new Captain Scarlet, and it was in CG.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that was the wrong move.
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  Speaker 5: I think that when people remember Jerry Anderson they remember
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  Speaker 5: the puppets they don't if you want to do CG
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  Speaker 5: I mean you won't be any different than any other.
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  Speaker 2: Saturday morning cartoon yeah all that stuff now.
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  Speaker 5: So I think his son does understand that and so
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  Speaker 5: you know I think that when we start thinking about
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  Speaker 5: doing another show he will certainly keep that in mind
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  Speaker 5: and I think you know hopefully with enough support and
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  Speaker 5: enough people behind it, we'll.
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  Speaker 3: Start getting back into miniatures and puppets. Because I really think, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, and I've said this before, when I was growing up,
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  Speaker 5: watching those shows, at no point did I ever think
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  Speaker 5: that they were real. It's not like they were trying
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  Speaker 5: to pull the wool over my eyes.
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  Speaker 3: I knew there were puppets. I knew there were miniatures.
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  Speaker 5: But the charm of the show for me when I
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  Speaker 5: was watching it was that I was watching toys move.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that's something that's kind of missing in
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  Speaker 5: today's children's shows, that we're all so caught up with
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  Speaker 5: trying to make it polished and realistic that we've actually
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  Speaker 5: lost some of the charm that was in watching something
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  Speaker 5: physical like a puppet or a miniature.
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  Speaker 2: I think especially when we were doing stop motion and
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  Speaker 2: stuff last time, I think there is something to that,
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  Speaker 2: that even when you're a kid, if you don't 100%
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  Speaker 2: understand how it works, there's still something weird and magic
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  Speaker 2: about it. You know it's not real. You do get
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  Speaker 2: that level of like, okay, I know this isn't a
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  Speaker 2: real thing happening, but there's something to it that connects
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  Speaker 2: with you, and because it's a real physical thing, I
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  Speaker 2: think it does kind of lend itself to kind of
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  Speaker 2: bringing kids into it a little more than CG or
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  Speaker 2: Even cell animation, it's a different thing, I think, than
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  Speaker 2: just something about stop motion and puppetry that's like.
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  Speaker 10: There's a charm about it.
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  Speaker 3: There's a craft about it. And, you know, it is
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  Speaker 3: a handmade thing.
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  Speaker 10: Well, yeah, I'm obviously on board with that, and.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really think about it before we got into this,
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  Speaker 2: but I myself am working on a series of short films,
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  Speaker 2: and they may or may not involve puppets.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 10: I don't... I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I've been working on this idea for years now, and
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  Speaker 2: it's funny that it's sort of come together, and I've
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  Speaker 2: found a few other people are like, yeah, that's.
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  Speaker 10: What we need to be doing. So it's in the works.
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  Speaker 10: It has been for quite a while now. It's a
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  Speaker 10: very slow process trying to get things.
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  Speaker 3: Brian, I hate to break it. Those are condoms. They're
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  Speaker 3: not finger puppets.
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  Speaker 10: But I've got five of them.
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  Speaker 3: Look. Watch this. Hi, guys.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, never mind.
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  Speaker 10: I'll save it for later. Don't appreciate my condom puppets.
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  Speaker 3: It's your art.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 10: No, no, you wait. It will be something. I don't
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  Speaker 10: know what exactly. But it will be something. And so
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  Speaker 10: far I'm very amused and entertained by the concept.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we're all very relieved it's spermacidal anyways.
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  Speaker 10: No, they're way cool.
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  Speaker 3: You'll see.
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  Speaker 2: So is yours going to be geared mostly towards TV
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  Speaker 2: as like a show thing or more of Internet-based or
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  Speaker 2: the one that you're working on with?
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, we don't have anything on the go just yet.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, just the idea.
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  Speaker 5: That's the approach that I think we're looking at. And yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I think that's, it's something that's sorely missing these days.
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  Speaker 5: And I do think that bringing that back, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: the name Jerry Anderson, you immediately think of Super Mario Nation,
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  Speaker 5: you immediately think of the vehicles and the spaceships and
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  Speaker 5: And to move away from that, I think is, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you're kind of contrary to the memory of Jerry Anderson.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that this is the way to go.
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  Speaker 5: It will set itself apart from every other production that's
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  Speaker 5: out there.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, I kind of miss that.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of miss the, you know, when, remember as
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: a kid when you would, you know, wake up and
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  Speaker 5: you'd be so excited. for that new episode to come
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  Speaker 5: on board, or sorry, to be aired. And nowadays it's like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 5: I can just.
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  Speaker 3: Download it later.
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  Speaker 5: The passion and the excitement has gone out of it.
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  Speaker 2: There is a difference in just the way that we
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  Speaker 2: view things now, and I don't know that that'll ever
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  Speaker 2: go back. There isn't that episodic thing of people that
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  Speaker 2: are like, I'm going to sit down on Wednesday nights
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  Speaker 2: and watch this.
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  Speaker 10: That's sort of, almost completely died out there's.
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  Speaker 2: A little left with network television but for the most
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  Speaker 2: part everything is either you know on youtube or streaming
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: or you can just download it or watch it in
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  Speaker 2: a huge chunk all at once so it's or it
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  Speaker 2: will be interesting to kind of see where all that
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  Speaker 2: goes in the next 10 years i think just in
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: that span all of that stuff's gonna change so i
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: think for all of us trying to find these new
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: projects and where we're going with them i think that's
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  Speaker 2: part of it too is where it is there to
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  Speaker 2: go with them and what do you want to do
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  Speaker 2: with it and i think there's unlimited possibilities with it
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  Speaker 2: but i don't know how.
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  Speaker 10: It's going to pan out so it'll be interesting to
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  Speaker 10: say i.
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  Speaker 3: Just think that that passion is missing these days you.
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  Speaker 2: Know patrick are you playing with puppets in any professional
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  Speaker 2: or amateur capacity he's got.
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  Speaker 3: His hands under the table oh so he is that's.
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  Speaker 9: The only puppet i play with.
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  Speaker 10: All righty let's save him for a later.
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  Speaker 9: Episode way into the godzilla puppet I have a feeling
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  Speaker 9: that was a puppet.
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  Speaker 10: You're jumping way ahead. All right, so with that, we'll
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  Speaker 10: take a break here and come back with this week's movie.
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  Speaker 11: Thank you.
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  Speaker 9: Godzilla, king of the monsters.
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  Speaker 8: Fantastic beyond comprehension. Gripping beyond compare.
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  Speaker 9: Astounding beyond belief.
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  Speaker 7: They're not fooling anybody that what happened was a natural disaster.
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  Speaker 7: It was not an earthquake. It wasn't a typhoon.
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  Speaker 5: They're lying.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not crazy. Whatever it is they're guarding so carefully,
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  Speaker 3: I need to be able.
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  Speaker 8: To prove it.
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  Speaker 6: The arrogance of man is thinking nature is in our control,
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  Speaker 3: Other way around. I know many of you have family
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  Speaker 10: Well, this is your chance.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so we are back with this week's Out
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  Speaker 2: on the Town feature. Yes, we left the house. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't happen much, but for Godzilla, we will. So this
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  Speaker 2: week's feature is Godzilla. The year is 2014.
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  Speaker 10: The director Gareth Edwards, the plot, according to IMDb... Party on, Gareth.
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  Speaker 10: You're on the wrong movie. The wrong movie.
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  Speaker 2: The world's most famous monsters pitted against malevolent creatures who,
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  Speaker 2: bolstered by humanity's scientific arrogance, threaten our very existence.
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  Speaker 10: Dun-dun-dun. Spoiler alert. We're going to tear the hell out
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  Speaker 10: of this and probably ruin many things about it and
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  Speaker 10: or lead people's lives. So feel free to go watch
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  Speaker 10: it beforehand. You have been warned. All right, where would
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: you like to get into it?
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  Speaker 2: I have a feeling I know which way you're leaning
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  Speaker 2: on this one. Patrick, I'm really not sure where you
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: came in on this.
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  Speaker 10: I'm interested to see how all of this comes together.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's big and terrible.
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  Speaker 4: More frightening than I ever thought possible.
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: So you loved it, is what you're saying.
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Let's start with the overall structure, because I know where
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: things start to fall apart for most people.
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: As it opens up in that first half, how do
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: you feel about the movie?
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Who are you directing this to?
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: Oh, totally towards you. I'm just here for one moment.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: My feeling is that if you've seen Gareth Edwards' previous movie, Monsters,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: you've pretty much seen Godzilla. Basically, it's like 90% people
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: running around, and then by the time you do get
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: to see Godzilla, or in the case of monsters, the aliens,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's this sort of... You've got to see
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: them kind of float around and do this sort of
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: touchy-feely thing.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: And then that's it. End of movie.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: And Godzilla was a little bit more ambitious, but it
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: had the same sort of tease.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Every time.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: You thought, okay, we've waited this long. Here we go.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: We're going to get.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Our wrestling match.
• 22:08
  Speaker 10: Our big fight.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Our big throwdown. We need the wrestling match.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: And suddenly, no, we're not getting it. It's just a
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: big cock tease.
• 22:16
  Speaker 10: It's funny that you used that word.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I sat in the theater and I was like, oh,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: this director is just a tease.
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: Like, that's exactly what I'm saying to myself.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, as we get to that first scene, and
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I guess we can jump to that because this is
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: probably what most of the.
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: Discussion will come down to is the fact that We
• 22:33
  Speaker 10: get to that first big fight and we don't get it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And the thing is, that one, I will almost give him,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the way he does that reveal is really clever. The
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: fact that he builds it up, we think we're going
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: to get it, we don't. But then as we get
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: to that next scene and we're watching the news, we
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: kind of do. We see little pieces of them just
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: tearing the town apart. I'm like, that was kind of clever. Like,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: if you're going to do a fake out, that's a
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: good way to ease into it. I think it's the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: next one where he screwed us over. I was like, okay,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: that's fun. That's all fun and games. But 20, 30
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: minutes later, you better get to a big monster fight.
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: And he does it again. Like, you son of a bitch.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: The door closes and you just want to hit Gareth
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Edwards with a building. You want to get into the fight.
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: With Gareth Edwards.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 23:20
  Speaker 10: That's where I think.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: He goes horribly wrong. And then finally, you do get
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: the big fight at the end. And it's almost nothing.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: You know, it doesn't... That lead up and that weight
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: and you're thinking, okay, there's got to be something massive
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: at the end.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: And it isn't. I mean, you kind of get.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: There is a shot in there that I will give.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I call it the money shot. It is somewhat pornographic,
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: somewhat erotic.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: There's a couple of them there, but there's the one
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: main one by the end. You're like, all right, well,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: there was my ticket price right there. So that is
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the money shot, literally.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: Which was kind of, you know, if you... along the
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: same lines as the two girls two cups sort.
• 24:02
  Speaker 12: Of thing sort of yeah yeah but uh uh yeah
• 24:07
  Speaker 12: i i you know i think that i was just
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: sort of really bored by it honestly.
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: It just had too much matthew broderick like it's like
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: why was the whole movie about the kid.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I do wonder i mean we And this is what
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I don't get. For somebody who's building this movie, I
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: understand he's trying to not just do another monster movie.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: He wants to actually, because that was the thing. I
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: was like, halfway in, I'm saying to myself the same thing.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, okay, I'm hearing everybody else as
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I get out of the theater going, man, why do
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: they do all this stuff with the people?
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: We just want fighting. It's a Godzilla movie.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I can hear people already kind of bashing it just
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: because all they want is two monsters fighting. And I'm like, no,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: that's not really true either because I saw Pacific Rim.
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: And that was my problem with that.
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: And you all missed about that.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: It was nothing but two monsters fighting. And I was like,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: there's no character development there. I could care less about
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: these characters.
• 25:04
  Speaker 10: They're never really fleshed out. So I'm like, I keep
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: wanting that.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Like, I want a mixture of these two things because
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Pacific Rim was nothing but fighting the entire time.
• 25:12
  Speaker 10: There was a lot of fighting.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: They didn't really, I mean, it had its issues too, but.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: They didn't skimp on the fighting there. They get right
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: into it and you get a lot of it over
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the length of the movie. And then Godzilla is just
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a big tease for the most of it. But it's
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: pretending like it's building this character situation and all these
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: different characters. But it kind of ends up doing the
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: same thing. It doesn't build strong enough characters. We don't
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: really care about that guy. His wife has nothing to do.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: He's actually ineffectual throughout the whole movie.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: He doesn't get to do much.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: He doesn't factor in until we get to the very end.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: The bomb thing, I guess, is the most functional he
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: ever is in the movie. But I'm just kind of like,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: why have we been riding along with this guy.
• 25:52
  Speaker 10: The whole time?
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: He destroyed the hive in four seconds alone.
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: There you go. See, that's the only time. That and
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: saving that kid.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Who, Matthew Broderick?
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: Matthew Broderick did it too.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: He's the same character.
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: Kind of.
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: Only Matthew Broderick, I like him.
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: Let's keep Ferris out of this movie.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: But, you know, to be fair, I mean, most of
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: us who remember Godzilla movies, I mean, tend to remember
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: the drag out.
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: Oh, Toho did it. They killed us. 90 minutes before
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: you see anything.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: We're kind of half expecting, because what we remember are,
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: you know, those fights and those cheesy shots and.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Toys flying around.
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: Godzilla playing ping pong with giant crab monsters. Personal favorite.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I just prefer to.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Do it as like WBF with giant monster costumes on.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: And that's essentially what Pacific Rim gave us.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: But if you actually really want to go back and
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: look at the original Godzilla movie, it wasn't that kind
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: of movie. And yes, okay, Gareth Edwards made a movie
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: that is closer to the original Godzilla than what most
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: of us remember a Godzilla movie should be about.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Which I'm fine with that. I just think he needed
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: to Do more with that first half. If you're going
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: to devote that much time to building it up, it
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: just needs to... I don't want to knock it overall,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: because everybody seems to be trashing it, or most of
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the people I've talked to have been very unhappy with it.
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: What I think he's also faced with a really.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Bad situation, whereas in this world of superheroes, he's almost
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: telling an origin story again. He's forced to go back
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: and be like, well, here's how it happened. We can't
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: just have a monster wander out and start beating each other. Oh,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: except they did do that in Pacific Rim. They're like
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: two minutes in, they're like, and monsters fight. So there
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: is a way to do that. I think that was
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: a little forced too. Like we almost wanted a little
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: more backstory. So again, we've got to hit this middle
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: ground because I feel like he's setting this up and
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: he's got to explain so much that you get to
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: that 30, 40, 50 minutes of like.
• 27:54
  Speaker 10: Story of explaining how all this comes together. And I'm like,
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: we need that.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, we need something to bring
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: us into it we need better characters for that matter
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: and and just a little more action along the way
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: to drive the plot i think so i i understand
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: he's faced with a lot trying to because that's the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: thing i feel like once he's got that out of
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the way if they're keeping him on to do the
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: next one which we probably will at this point but
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: i feel like okay we've gotten the big dumb story
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: out of the way of setting up the plot do
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: we now just go right in and just start with
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: more you know okay here's A monster flies in from
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: space and fight. You know, do we get right into
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: it now? Is that where we go? I kind of
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: hope so.
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: That would be amazing.
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: Or Gatsuki.
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: No Gatsuki, please.
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: I'm tired of talking to you about this.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I want my son. I want to see my son.
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: I want to know that he's all right.
• 28:42
  Speaker 11: This guy.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: This guy knows. He knows where he is.
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: I want my son.
• 28:52
  Speaker 9: And I want my bag. And I want to talk
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: to somebody in charge, not you.
• 28:56
  Speaker 11: No, not you.
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: I'm done talking to you.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: All right? Well, you're looking at me.
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: Right now like I'm in a fish tank, right?
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: That's fine, because I know what happened here. And you keep.
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: Telling everybody that this place is a death zone, but
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: it's not.
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: You're lying.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Because what's really happening is that you're hiding something out there.
• 29:19
  Speaker 11: I'm right, aren't I?
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: My wife So I don't know, what was.
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: Your thought? And I have a right to know! I
• 29:36
  Speaker 11: deserve answers!
• 29:37
  Speaker 10: So, I don't know. What was your thought on the
• 29:41
  Speaker 10: structuring of it? Because I feel like we do need more.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: We do need to ground it with a little more of,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of what they wanted to do with
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the original Godzilla. Of, like, giving us the backstory of, like,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: it was based in a real world. In a real
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: world that was kind of dealing with fear and... trauma
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: of just, you know, coming out of the war and
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: like seeing nuclear devastation for real. So they're kind of like, okay, yeah,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: this is a sci-fi story, but it's based in how
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: messed up the world is right now. And it's like,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: we're just sort of taking it off in a weird direction,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: but there's, I mean, you can feel that when you
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: watch that first one, that it's based out of some
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: sort of reality that I don't know that we.
• 30:17
  Speaker 10: Get in this new one.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I think this one is just a big fun monster
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: movie and the fun comes in way too late to
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: save it.
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: Almost kind of.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Are you saying that it did save it?
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: I'm of the opinion that it was just too little
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: too late, honestly.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: It brings it back around for me. I didn't hate
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: it because I really did like that last scene. That
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: last fight, I would have liked more, I agree. But
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I feel like what was on there was pretty solid.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I think once we finally, again, they drag it out
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: where we almost don't even see Godzilla for most of
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the movie, and that's not.
• 30:50
  Speaker 10: A good idea.
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: I'm not sure I saw it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: It's in the name. We know he's there. Go ahead
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: and bring him out at least midway into the movie.
• 30:57
  Speaker 10: But, I don't know.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: It seems like once we see him, I think he
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: looks pretty good. I like the effects.
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: I like those other two monsters. I think they were
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: cool monsters.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: It's like that Pink Panther movie that they did after
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Peter Sellers died and the characters are trying to catch
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: a glimpse.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Of Spectre Clouseau.
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: Trail of the Pink Panther?
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it.
• 31:15
  Speaker 10: Starring Ted Wass?
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: There he goes!
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: Curse of the Pink Panther, that's right.
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: Does Godzilla die, or does he just fall asleep?
• 31:22
  Speaker 10: He's worn out, and he takes a nap. You know,
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: we all get worn out. I went home and took
• 31:26
  Speaker 10: a nap earlier, it's cool.
• 31:28
  Speaker 9: That's interesting.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I do wonder, like, what, yeah, I was like, what,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: they really didn't spell that out, so are we just
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: supposed to, like, take from.
• 31:39
  Speaker 10: That what we want?
• 31:40
  Speaker 9: Two big fire blasts, and then he has to go sleep.
• 31:42
  Speaker 10: And he's all worn out.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Well, then I was like, okay, is it because they're
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: dealing with all this, like, everyone else, all the creatures
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: are feeding off this nuclear.
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: I do like the one eating, like, nuclear weapons as
• 31:53
  Speaker 10: he busts into that submarine. So I'm like, by then
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: they'd blown up all the nuclear stuff.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: So I was like, was he feeding off of that?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Are we supposed to think that was part of it?
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: And now they've gotten rid of all that and they
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: took everything away and now he's depleted and has to
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: take a nap.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: They really kind of should have pinned that down a
• 32:10
  Speaker 10: little more, I suppose.
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: I think there's a lot of questions about this movie
• 32:13
  Speaker 9: that go unanswered.
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: Get Gareth on the phone.
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: Like, why is Walter White in it at all?
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: What was your take on him overall?
• 32:20
  Speaker 9: I really went and saw the movie for him, and
• 32:23
  Speaker 9: I fell into a trap. Because I was too dumb
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: to realize, they're going to kill him off in a
• 32:27
  Speaker 9: minute here, and I just wasted $ 6. 50.
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: You went to the matinee. I did go to the matinee.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: To be honest, the part with... Bryan Cranston was probably
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: the most.
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: That was the best part.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, you felt in his situation. He had emotion.
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: And if he would have replaced Ferris Bueller, it would
• 32:46
  Speaker 9: have been fine.
• 32:47
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's kind of true.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: He, at least in that first 10, 15 minutes, however
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: long he's in it, like, you... I've had many people
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: bring up the fact that he's just kind of chewing
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: up the scenery. Like, he's nothing but a raw nerve
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the entire time. I think earlier today they said he
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: just jumps in season three.
• 33:04
  Speaker 10: As Walter White.
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: Exactly.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: He's just immediately crazy. So, I mean, he kind of
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: dials it a little too far. But at least, you know,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: he is a great actor. He does bring something to
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: that role. I do like the story that they are
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: setting up of him losing his wife. And, like, you
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: do feel like he's got something at stake. So, again,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: as the story arc, it would then balance out if, like, okay,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: so now he's trying to redeem himself or what they
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: were doing or the death of his wife.
• 33:30
  Speaker 10: Like, some sort of balance to his life. Or we
• 33:33
  Speaker 10: just kill him, whichever.
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: We're going to hand it off to the catatonic kid.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, somebody else I heard referred to that as, like,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: the entire movie is false advertising.
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: Just being roped in as false advertising.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Because they really do build it up like he's the
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: main character.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: I wanted to see him versus Godzilla.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Which, again, is a clever trick if you can pull
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: that off. That's a psycho move right there. But this
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: is no psycho. So you can't do that unless you're
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: handing it off to someone equally as strong or impressive or.
• 34:04
  Speaker 10: Able to carry the scene, you know.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Can you imagine Godzilla on one end of the street
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: and Brian Cranston on the other side in his ginch?
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: I feel like it was a 90-minute or 120-minute short story.
• 34:18
  Speaker 9: It was.
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: It was a too.
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: Drawn-out short story, and it's setting us up for hopefully
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: they make a second one, and it's a good one.
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: I think it's already greenlit at this point.
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: Well, they greenlit two and three, and it's like, but
• 34:30
  Speaker 9: now are we going to get the monsters we know
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: and love? Because I do, I want to see somebody
• 34:33
  Speaker 9: come from space. If they fuck up Mothra, though.
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: You don't mess with Mothra? You don't mess with Rodan.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: Don't you fuck with Rodan.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: So, you know, they really do kind of, again, like,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: you get into these properties sometimes, and it's like, the
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: deck is almost stacked against you.
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: Like, there's so much.
• 34:51
  Speaker 9: Oh, you just wait. Pacific Rim opened up this, and
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: it opened up Voltron. And when they fuck over Voltron.
• 34:56
  Speaker 10: Little kids everywhere. Who are now old people. Exactly. Will
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: be very angry. Oh, I remember my childhood and this
• 35:06
  Speaker 10: is not it.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, in a way, I think sometimes people get
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: too precious about the specifics of these properties.
• 35:13
  Speaker 10: So that's the beauty.
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: You can't fuck up a Power Rangers movie.
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: That's true. When you're bad to begin with, you don't
• 35:18
  Speaker 10: have to worry about it.
• 35:19
  Speaker 9: You can only go up.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, we get too caught up in that. I
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: don't mind them doing something slightly different with it.
• 35:25
  Speaker 10: If they do it well.
• 35:26
  Speaker 9: They have to do it well.
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: And I think that's part of the problem.
• 35:28
  Speaker 9: See, the sad fact is, like, the Godzilla part was perfect.
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: There just wasn't enough of it. Like, I liked the
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: new body. I liked the roar. I even was okay
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: with his, uh, it's not fire, or nuclear blast.
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: Whatever that is.
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah, whatever that was. I was good with it. And
• 35:43
  Speaker 9: I liked the whole, uh. kiss of death thing or
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: whatever he does whatever you want to.
• 35:47
  Speaker 10: Call that the finishing move I did.
• 35:49
  Speaker 9: Not I didn't see it coming but it's like I
• 35:52
  Speaker 9: kind of want him to like maybe maybe exercise a
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: little more so he's a little bit more of a
• 35:56
  Speaker 9: fighter I like have some abs well I like that
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: he was Rocky Balboa and they beat the fuck out
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: of him and he was like you know what I'm
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: gonna win because he's got my name.
• 36:05
  Speaker 10: More than I expected he took a beating but.
• 36:07
  Speaker 9: You could tell that all the fight scenes and everything
• 36:09
  Speaker 9: were so rushed it's like lose lose lose and now
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: I'm breathing fire down your face.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm Oh, no, you've spoiled it.
• 36:15
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we threw it out there too bad. Again, as
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: much as I like that big finishing move, I was
• 36:21
  Speaker 10: pretty taken with the tail slam.
• 36:23
  Speaker 9: The tail slam was sweet.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: The tail slam was fun, because that's the one I
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: didn't see going. I was just like, because it's so quick.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: It's just like, and here he, oh, shit. Like, it
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: is just, it is. It's back to the wrestling moment.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, every once in a while, I'm on
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: board with that. And they definitely, that moment delivers that.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: The kiss of death delivers.
• 36:41
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's got so much potential in that.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Last scene that just should have spilled out backwards about
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: a half hour. If we would have had that middle
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: fight when the doors close, because the doors close is
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: kind of that fuck you moment.
• 36:53
  Speaker 10: It's just like, no. No.
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: No.
• 36:56
  Speaker 10: Like the first one was a tease and I was
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: okay with that. I like the news footage.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I do want to know if somewhere like now on
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: the DVD there's going to be that footage because he
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: obviously shot that first fight because we see it going
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: on in the background. So I'm like, can we insert
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: that in and make it more interesting now? Because, yeah,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I let that first one slide because that was a
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: clever way to do it. But the door closing... It's
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: just like everybody in the audience, you could kind of
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: feel that, no. Like you could hear this little outcry
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: of like, but I want it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 10: Just adults crying into their popcorn. I want it fighting
• 37:34
  Speaker 10: with monsters.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not watching this movie anymore.
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: I think that's where it drops the ball. I think,
• 37:43
  Speaker 10: number one, it should have.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: It might have worked if it was a comedy, you know.
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: It would have been a really good back to the
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: 98 guns. Exactly. It worked with Matthew Broderick and John Reno.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Oh God.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I, I, I just feel like it,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: if it had that middle scene, that would balance it
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: pretty well. I think the only thing there is again,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: that guy, like our lead kid, like he just doesn't,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: he doesn't bring you in at all. Like I love,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: and I, I've said it many a time recently. I
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: did not see this coming, uh, that I was so
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: on board with Elizabeth Olsen in everything, not just anything. Like,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I didn't see her coming in, like, those first few
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: indie movies she's in.
• 38:19
  Speaker 10: I'm like, wow. Like, she is a really good actress.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: And everything she's done has been these, like, really smart,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: cleverly shot, well-written indie movies.
• 38:30
  Speaker 10: And then this summer happens. Was she in Super 8?
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: Was that her? No. That's the Elf Annie. That's the
• 38:38
  Speaker 10: other little dynasty of super cool kids. Dakota's awesome. Elle's awesome.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: And the other Olsens are just rich now. We don't
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: know what happened to them. But Elizabeth is really impressive.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: So the fact that she has nothing to do is
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: killing me when I'm watching this. Because it's like the
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: other guy, you kind of just hear him go, duh.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Like his head is just kind of like there.
• 38:59
  Speaker 10: And it's full of rocks.
• 39:00
  Speaker 9: It really pisses me off about that kid. First of all,
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: his face. Secondly, every line that he has. But most
• 39:06
  Speaker 9: of all, and I know it's a movie, okay? Like
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: I understand it. And I know that he's in the army,
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: so they try to make it a little realistic. How
• 39:14
  Speaker 9: many special force operations does this kid do that puts
• 39:18
  Speaker 9: him in harm's way so you can see every little
• 39:20
  Speaker 9: bit of the action?
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: He's very lucky. Or unlucky, as the case may be.
• 39:25
  Speaker 9: He's in the army, and yet he's going to do
• 39:27
  Speaker 9: a halo jump with Navy SEALs with no tactical training.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: And why is it that every little military step along
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: the way, they're like, oh, okay, cool. I know we're
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: in a bad situation here, but usually they're pretty hardcore
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: about that stuff.
• 39:38
  Speaker 10: They'll be like, you're not in my outfit. Get lost, buddy.
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: Oh, you got a train bomb? I'm good at train bombs.
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: Good enough. I'm trying to figure it out. Since we're
• 39:44
  Speaker 10: making fun of him, I guess we should figure out
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: what his name is. He is not Brian Cranston.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: I know that.
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: Or no, Aaron Taylor Johnson?
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think so.
• 39:53
  Speaker 10: That sounds it? Okay.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: C.J.
• 39:55
  Speaker 10: Adams is the key word. Aaron Taylor Johnson, you sorry bastard.
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: I would have even been fine if it was more
• 40:02
  Speaker 9: Ken Watanabe. I love Ken Wildem.
• 40:05
  Speaker 10: Again, talk about somebody that they set up this story.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: And again, we've got somebody who's actually bringing something to
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: it of like, okay, I've seen this shit go down.
• 40:14
  Speaker 10: My family's dealt with this for a generation now.
• 40:17
  Speaker 9: I work for the company.
• 40:19
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it should bring more to it from him, not
• 40:22
  Speaker 10: from this dork.
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: See, that's what number two and number three, you have
• 40:26
  Speaker 9: to attack the story from a different standpoint, and it's
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: got to be from that company. And they're going to
• 40:30
  Speaker 9: ruin it with the monster. You can't make a monster
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: that makes everybody happy. One of them's going to be
• 40:35
  Speaker 9: classic monster. Another one's going to be 100 million little
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: spiders or some stupid little thing that Godzilla's got to
• 40:42
  Speaker 9: fight and there's too many of them and they're going
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: to try to eat the Earth's atmosphere or some kind
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: of Transformers bullshit because everybody's doing that these days.
• 40:50
  Speaker 10: And then there's going.
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: To be the parallel universe and the other ships coming
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: in and Godzilla's like, oh, fuck this shit. They're going
• 40:56
  Speaker 9: to ruin it.
• 40:57
  Speaker 10: I mean, I have to say.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: It's going to be like Batman where you have to
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: have two villains.
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: It's what it is. It's like six monsters, a Godzuki,
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: Rodan's going to show up. It's going to be horrible.
• 41:06
  Speaker 10: Sinister Six is going to show up. That is kind
• 41:10
  Speaker 10: of where we're going with this, right?
• 41:11
  Speaker 9: Number three will be destroy all monsters. And I'll actually
• 41:13
  Speaker 9: be like, oh, I'm going to hate those, but I'm
• 41:14
  Speaker 9: going to go see it anyways.
• 41:16
  Speaker 10: Finally, we've made our way there.
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: I want King Ghidorah to be in number two.
• 41:19
  Speaker 10: I mean, that's the thing. You have to wonder where
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: they're going now.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Because they did probably a smart move of not starting
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: with established monsters, other than, you know, we need to
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: build Godzilla into something, but just kind of making up random, whatever,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: just something for him to beat up.
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: I was let down with the monsters at first, but then,
• 41:33
  Speaker 9: like you, they kind of drew on me.
• 41:35
  Speaker 10: They're pretty good.
• 41:35
  Speaker 9: They're pretty awesome.
• 41:36
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 41:37
  Speaker 9: Glad, actually, because going into it, I was like, you
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: see in the trailer, and you're like, is that a tentacle?
• 41:41
  Speaker 9: What the fuck is that? I don't know that monster.
• 41:44
  Speaker 9: That's not any of the lore. And I'm like, this
• 41:46
  Speaker 9: is going to be awful. And then you see them,
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: and you're like, yeah, they're not too bad. That's pretty cool.
• 41:49
  Speaker 9: They did a good job. I like the hive. What
• 41:51
  Speaker 9: was the thing in the beginning? The skeleton. Was that
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: a Godzilla? Or was it another monster?
• 41:55
  Speaker 10: See, that's the thing.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Trying to figure out where did those two come from? So,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: the one that they dig out was hibernating, right? Are
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: we assuming that was the one?
• 42:05
  Speaker 10: The other one was.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: waiting so where was the other one at that point
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: they had like the male was the one that.
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: In nevada they found it and dragged.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: It but i thought that one was the one that
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: was hibernating again they don't make this stuff very clear.
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: That's why the second movie we need from the standpoint
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: of the company to explain and and maybe an opening
• 42:25
  Speaker 9: scene where the ferris bueller kid is shot in the
• 42:28
  Speaker 9: head or stepped on like the bambi.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: But this is the thing like why like in something
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: that it's not like it just cuts straight to the
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: action in a movie that builds up for like an
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: hour and 15 minutes.
• 42:39
  Speaker 10: Should we have this many questions of like, wait, where
• 42:41
  Speaker 10: was he? And why was this?
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: And like, we should, for that much of them spilling out,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: you know, backstory and some sort of setup, we should know.
• 42:49
  Speaker 10: Everything backwards and forwards. And we're still like, but where
• 42:52
  Speaker 10: did he?
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't, I don't understand why there's that
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: much left for us to figure out when we spent
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: all that time building up some sort of story that.
• 43:02
  Speaker 10: Isn't necessarily there.
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 43:05
  Speaker 10: I don't understand that. If you're going to have that
• 43:07
  Speaker 10: much story, we should know what's going on.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: So which did you prefer then? Did you prefer Godzilla
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: or did you prefer Pacific Rim?
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: Shit on Pacific Rim. And shit on that Australian kid.
• 43:21
  Speaker 10: See, by the end, I still like Godzilla better. And
• 43:24
  Speaker 10: that's kind of a slam.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't dislike Pacific Rim, but there was something so
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: off about the way they did their people. By the end,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I think Godzilla as the As the Godzilla comes out,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: he sort of redeems all of that other stuff.
• 43:38
  Speaker 10: Where I never felt like I got that with Pacific Rim.
• 43:40
  Speaker 10: It was a bunch of fun fighting. I enjoyed it.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I'm glad I saw it in the theater on the
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: big screen. That was the way to see something like that.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: But it was kind of gone. I don't even think
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: about those fight scenes. I can't even remember any specifics.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Whereas I'm still like the finishing moves for both of
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: them on Godzilla.
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: I'm still thinking about those. And I probably will be
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: next year at this time.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, that was badass. I don't have that
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: with Pacific Rim. I just kind of like, yeah, I
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: saw it.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: Pacific Rim was made for the eight-year-old kid in me
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: who had the action figure robot on one hand and
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: a monster in the other hand and just.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Bashing them together on the floor.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I think Godzilla, they tried to legitimize the
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: genre somewhat.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: But unfortunately, it just really, really left me cold.
• 44:26
  Speaker 10: Again, I don't mind doing that. I just don't understand
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: why they take it down that road in the middle there.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Like, I think what they were doing, well, what they
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: were doing, well, no, what they were doing with the,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: the Brian Cranston set up. Like, I feel like that
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: was pretty smart and that almost was legitimizing. Like you
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: do feel like he's got something at stake.
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: He does.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Like there is some seriousness to his, like, you know,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: after we already see the lose the wife, but then
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: that whole him going crazy and kind of building this
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: world of like, trying to figure out this mystery of
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: what's happening and the timing of it all.
• 44:56
  Speaker 9: The echolocation thing should have been more important. It should have, yeah.
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: It should have not been them trying to mate.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Why were they, yeah, and why was he, you know,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: spending so much of his time putting that together and
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: then we don't get to see him finalize that, nor
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: does the movie really finalize it.
• 45:11
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I feel like if we stuck with him, like we
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: were saying, and given him more to do, not written
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: him out immediately, not focused on the kid or the wife, again,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: we're building up this melodrama between them But I'm like,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: we haven't even seen enough of them. I mean, they
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: haven't seen each other for more than five minutes in
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: the last several years. So we don't have anything invested
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: because we haven't seen them together.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: Do you think Gareth Edwards was just trying to be non-formula?
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: Like trying to shake it up a bit?
• 45:40
  Speaker 10: But it feels so foreign.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: That middle area felt like the two people being apart
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: from each other the whole time. And every once in
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: a while they talk on the phone or they like.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I'm going to wait around here for my husband. And
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: by the way, who ditches their kid with somebody else?
• 45:51
  Speaker 10: Would you just randomly pass your new child off to
• 45:53
  Speaker 10: somebody and be like, I'm going to go away. You
• 45:55
  Speaker 10: stay over there with them now. What kind of mother
• 45:58
  Speaker 10: is that? You stay with your child.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 46:02
  Speaker 10: That rubbed me the wrong way, too.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like that middle part is very, like, normal,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: by the numbers, like, disaster movie. It just feels like
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: it could be any Roland Emmerich movie that came along,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: not Godzilla. It could be any day after tomorrow where
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, the couple that we wish they were together,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: but there's this stupid world falling apart and they just
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: can't get it together.
• 46:22
  Speaker 10: But by the end, they will. Don't you worry. Hang
• 46:24
  Speaker 10: in there.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: That felt very cookie cutter to me as far as
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: like disaster movie, which is what most movies are at
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: this point.
• 46:31
  Speaker 10: We continue to crank out disaster movies and that just felt.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Like your little filler area in the middle there. Like
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: we got to pretend like there's relationships to be worried about,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: but we don't really feel anything for either of them,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: which is really good. difficult when it's so damn good.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I really wish they would have given her more to do.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Can we cut out dorky kid and like make her
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: like be the, yeah.
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: Could she just, well, no.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Or can she just come in and be like another
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: scientist that's working with Brian Cranston and that, you know,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: we focus on them or the other people they bring in.
• 47:01
  Speaker 10: We, we focus on the, the guy that works for.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: The company or the, who's the other woman they brought
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: in that just every once in a while would show up.
• 47:08
  Speaker 10: And spout off details.
• 47:09
  Speaker 9: Kim Watanabe's chick.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, she just kind of comes out of
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: nowhere and like, Oh, yeah, here's a fact. All right,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I'll be over here for 20 minutes. And then she'd
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: come back in later and like, why do we get
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: these little pieces of those relationships and we don't.
• 47:22
  Speaker 10: Build any characters whatsoever? But I don't know. I don't
• 47:26
  Speaker 10: feel like it was that unusual.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: What part do you think was being sort of atypical
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: of movies of that type?
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: No, I was just playing devil's advocate.
• 47:37
  Speaker 10: I usually do that too. We're reversing on ourselves now.
• 47:41
  Speaker 10: The snake is eating its own tail.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, my preference would have been to build
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: characters that you follow through the whole adventure. You stick
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: with them and you want them to succeed. But he
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: doesn't really give us that.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Brian Crescent, gone. His kid, I actually was starting to
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: pray that he would die.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: Just kill him off already and let's jump onto another
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: character and follow them instead.
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: Elizabeth.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, would it have been more interesting to, and again,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: this would be something you wouldn't see coming. What if
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: the dad lives, kills the kid? So now he's lost
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: mom and his own child.
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: I'm going to kill that monster.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: And then, like, that would fuel him for the whole
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: rest of the movie because that I wouldn't see coming.
• 48:29
  Speaker 10: I'd be like, whoa, they just killed that kid? Like,
• 48:32
  Speaker 10: our main army lead guy? Like, you wouldn't see that coming.
• 48:36
  Speaker 10: So that would have been way more interesting, I feel like.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: And every other relative he has.
• 48:43
  Speaker 9: Just beat this poor bastard.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: He's just going after you.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: He follows him to Jamaica. Grant Cranston's like, I just
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: want to take a vacation. There's Godzilla popping his head
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: up out of the water.
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: Damn you.
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: My most upset part about it is when there are
• 48:59
  Speaker 9: three movies, and number two and number three are connected,
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: and number one is a standalone piece of shit that
• 49:04
  Speaker 9: we all hate. I'm really upset about that. And part
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: of me was for some reason hoping that it was
• 49:10
  Speaker 9: going to be an end of the world. Like I
• 49:12
  Speaker 9: was actually hoping for the role in Emmerich, like Godzilla
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: and the monsters are fighting and it's actually destroying the
• 49:18
  Speaker 9: entire world. So by the third, one, it was like
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome with dinosaurs in the background and
• 49:25
  Speaker 9: shit going crazy. But now it's just going to be, oh,
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: the first one, you know, it had ticket sales. So
• 49:31
  Speaker 9: let's go ahead and do two and three. And Johnny
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: Depp's going to die at the end of the second one.
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: And in the third one, he's going to be in
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: hell with Godzilla and Godzilla.
• 49:40
  Speaker 10: Okay, wait.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: You keep bringing up Katsuki. I love Katsuki.
• 49:45
  Speaker 9: You know, okay, so here's the other thing. I'm hoping
• 49:48
  Speaker 9: that we get a Godzilla cartoon again.
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: A serious one or one like that one?
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: That one.
• 49:57
  Speaker 10: Because that was Hanna-Barbera, wasn't it?
• 50:00
  Speaker 9: That was Hanna-Barbera.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, because I just played some of that recently.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is definitely a normal level of
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Hanna-Barbera cartoon.
• 50:07
  Speaker 10: And they jammed Godzilla into it.
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: They just put him in there.
• 50:10
  Speaker 10: It's just kind of like, hey, Scoob, look over there.
• 50:12
  Speaker 10: There's a giant lizard.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Zoinks!
• 50:15
  Speaker 10: It was pretty Hanna-Barbera.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Again, I could see them doing something, or it would
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: be nice to see them do something a little more
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: serious with it, because that seems like something you could
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: do in animation that would be really kind of fun
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: and interesting. And you could take it pretty dark that way, but.
• 50:31
  Speaker 9: From the artist that brought you the 1992 Batman animated series.
• 50:36
  Speaker 10: That I will take.
• 50:37
  Speaker 9: Godzilla Noir.
• 50:38
  Speaker 10: That I will take. Possibly the best animated series ever.
• 50:42
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 50:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that one is awesome. So I would be glad
• 50:46
  Speaker 10: to have that.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. Where do we stand on this
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: all together? You guys don't like it at all. I mean,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: it doesn't redeem it.
• 50:53
  Speaker 9: I can't wait to own it on Blu-ray. I can't
• 50:55
  Speaker 9: wait to watch it all the time.
• 50:56
  Speaker 10: But you're just going to skip to the last part.
• 50:59
  Speaker 9: They capitalize on one fact. Like, I grew up– I
• 51:01
  Speaker 9: was born in 1985. I grew up watching all of
• 51:06
  Speaker 9: those on VHS, just every one of them over and
• 51:08
  Speaker 9: over and over again. They capitalized on me, and they
• 51:11
  Speaker 9: knew it. And they're going to capitalize on me for
• 51:13
  Speaker 9: two and three, and I'm going to hate all three
• 51:16
  Speaker 9: of them, but I'm going to watch them every day
• 51:19
  Speaker 9: that I want to fall asleep on the couch.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Now, do you think they jumped in more in the
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: middle of the run? Like, again, I was hoping they'd
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: take it more serious with the first one, which is
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: kind of how he built it. Like, he was going
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: to build this thing.
• 51:30
  Speaker 10: It was going to be a serious movie.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: But did he, like, plot-wise, not monster-wise, but plot-wise, does
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: it fall more into, like, one of the middle run?
• 51:37
  Speaker 9: It's post-Godzilla 1985, if you will.
• 51:39
  Speaker 10: No Raymond Burr.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
• 51:41
  Speaker 9: Where's Raymond Burr? But, yeah, it's, like, so much story,
• 51:44
  Speaker 9: not too much monsters, but we're after the joking 70s monsters, right? Yeah.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Again that's something you almost need to decide on that's
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: why I thought initially it was kind of good that
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: was one of the things I was thinking as people
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: were like I could feel people already getting upset with
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: it I was like well who did we give it
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: to yeah I mean we gave it to a guy
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: who made a movie called Monsters there's hardly any monsters
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: it's about a freaking relationship.
• 52:10
  Speaker 10: Like so it's kind of our own fault for.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Giving it to that guy and expecting him to do
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: any different like he's only made one feature film that
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: was it that's what he did last time like I
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 52:20
  Speaker 10: I feel like that was kind of like.
• 52:22
  Speaker 9: Your other option was for it to just be Guillermo
• 52:25
  Speaker 9: del Toro does Godzilla.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Which, again, can we get these two together? Can we
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: get them to make a crossover movie and be like,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: you handle all the fighting. You handle a little bit
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: more plot development, but not too much, and let's bring
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: somebody else in to write a little better.
• 52:39
  Speaker 9: For some of these characters. And just let Ron Perlman
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: do whatever Ron Perlman wants.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: And let Ron Perlman do whatever he wants, because he's
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: what saved that part. I could just watch Ron Perlman
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: be a weirdo for an hour and a half, so... Yeah,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: can we cross over these areas and let Pacific Rim
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: fight with Godzilla?
• 52:52
  Speaker 9: I'm really worried about the monsters, because that's what it is.
• 52:55
  Speaker 9: We know Godzilla's going to be there. We know the
• 52:57
  Speaker 9: military's going to be there. But we don't know what
• 52:59
  Speaker 9: monster's going to be there. And what if there's no monster?
• 53:03
  Speaker 9: Because you know that's what they're thinking. They're like, everybody's
• 53:05
  Speaker 9: worried about the monster. Let's go. Godzilla versus environmental catastrophe.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: See, I thought that's what this was going to be.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I thought they would start the first one with no monster.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: And we would focus on, again, we'd have to do
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: an origin story. We'd focus on him. And then he'd
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: fight with the military the whole time. And then they'd
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: set it up so the sequel would bring in monsters.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: So it already is odd. I don't know how you
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: get out of monsters now. You could almost do it
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: the first run. They've gotten so much, especially after Pacific Rim.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I think so many people are waiting for monster on
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: monster fighting. It would be hard for them to yank
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: that out of the middle of the pond.
• 53:36
  Speaker 9: I hope they don't do two Godzillas. Like, there's a Godzilla. Yeah,
• 53:40
  Speaker 9: if they do that, I hope not.
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: It'll be Mecha Godzilla.
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: Here's what I was thinking when I was like, shit, man,
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: they're going to make Godzilla. It's going to be great.
• 53:49
  Speaker 9: I was sitting there thinking, like, all the old ones
• 53:51
  Speaker 9: that I watched, because I was definitely in that age
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: bracket where I watched the old ones. But I'd seen
• 53:55
  Speaker 9: a lot of newer movies, so I'm like, I understand
• 53:57
  Speaker 9: that it's a guy in a costume and it's a
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: little rough, but I love it. And I remember watching
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: those being like, man, if they made this now, Mechagodzilla, like,
• 54:05
  Speaker 9: think of the Transformers. That's what it's going to look like.
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: It's too computer generated. It's too CG. But it's like.
• 54:12
  Speaker 10: You did nothing in that. Like, you have nothing in that.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 54:15
  Speaker 10: At least this, that's kind of what I like there.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: That's sort of what redeemed the movie with that last
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: fight is I still felt like there was something there.
• 54:22
  Speaker 10: There was a little.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: something fighting each other where I never get that with Transformers. Transformers,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: it's so ridiculously pieced together and edited and shot. You
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: can't even tell what they're doing like this, at least
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: as a fight scene function, because you knew where the
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: creatures were. You knew what they were doing. You knew
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: how it came together as a fight scene. Like the
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Michael Bay bullshit. Like he just doesn't even know how
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: to shoot a fight scene, especially anymore. Like he's gotten
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: worse and worse as they've thrown more money and more
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: CG at him that he just doesn't even know how to,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: put together a scene anymore but like at least this
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: i felt worked as an action sequence as a fight
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: scene that last run.
• 54:59
  Speaker 10: It needs it needs more of more of that throughout the.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Whole movie but i think yeah everybody feels 50 50
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: with the next one it's.
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: Gonna give them cancer they get god damn it it's
• 55:09
  Speaker 9: gotta be build up first half of the movie and
• 55:12
  Speaker 9: then they're just in the city nobody's going anywhere and
• 55:15
  Speaker 9: it's just run because buildings are coming.
• 55:17
  Speaker 10: Down Yeah, it is funny how much destruction goes on
• 55:22
  Speaker 10: with the city.
• 55:22
  Speaker 9: And we don't really see anything.
• 55:23
  Speaker 10: And we don't see anything. And we don't, like, there's
• 55:26
  Speaker 10: no catastrophe.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: It's not, like, again, this is sort of, in this
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: post-9-11 world, when buildings fall down, it's a big fucking deal.
• 55:32
  Speaker 10: Like, it's a horrible thing. So we don't get that.
• 55:35
  Speaker 10: It's still pretty fun in this one.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 55:37
  Speaker 9: The next movie, the main character, he works for FEMA.
• 55:40
  Speaker 9: That's what it's going to be.
• 55:42
  Speaker 10: Well, that's what I was amazed with. How much.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Who's going to clean up this shit?
• 55:45
  Speaker 8: Me?
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: No.
• 55:47
  Speaker 10: That's what I thought was funny. In this one, I
• 55:51
  Speaker 10: actually liked how much of a good guy they made him.
• 55:54
  Speaker 10: It's so ridiculous.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous what a hero he is when he
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: just parades out to sea there. Fuck our city.
• 56:02
  Speaker 9: Because you don't have any people he steps on just to.
• 56:04
  Speaker 10: Leave the city.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck them.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: You guys have been fighting him the entire rest of
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: this time. You've been worried about how much he's going
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: to destroy everything. He and the other two monsters have
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: just been tearing up cities.
• 56:14
  Speaker 10: All over this world.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: And yet by the end, it's, yay, Godzilla. Which, again,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: comes back to more of the middle run of the Godzilla.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: It really was very, very, you know, yeah, he's your friend.
• 56:26
  Speaker 10: He's your pal. I mean, he's a little kid sidekick. Oh, wait,
• 56:28
  Speaker 10: he's got one in this movie.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: So they're just going to go off on adventures together.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: It has a very cheesy feel that I almost liked,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: but I don't even know how you do that. I
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: don't know how that is not ridiculous. I really expected
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: him to be more of fighting the military and us
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 56:44
  Speaker 10: Trying to destroy him equally as much as the other monsters.
• 56:47
  Speaker 9: There shouldn't have been monsters in the first one. It
• 56:49
  Speaker 9: should have been Godzilla versus the microwave dish on the
• 56:51
  Speaker 9: back of a car. Do you think they're going to
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: do King Kong? I really hope they don't do King Kong.
• 56:56
  Speaker 10: That would take a lot of licensing.
• 56:58
  Speaker 9: That's a slippery slope. What if, since this movie really
• 57:02
  Speaker 9: destroyed San Francisco, in the second one, he revisits San Francisco.
• 57:06
  Speaker 9: They've rebuilt San Francisco, and it looks like the Star
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: Trek San Francisco crossover. And then there's Klingons.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: We do need to reboot a whole new Star Trek series, right?
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're tying in this new one now, so.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Have we seen much of San Francisco.
• 57:25
  Speaker 10: In that new run of them? We did a lot
• 57:27
  Speaker 10: on that.
• 57:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 57:29
  Speaker 10: Then they started destroying stuff again.
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: Throw a starship at it.
• 57:34
  Speaker 10: So can we have like the Enterprise fighting Godzilla? I'd
• 57:38
  Speaker 10: watch that.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Only the Enterprise transforms into a robot.
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: There you go.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: What do you call a crossover when it's three?
• 57:51
  Speaker 9: It's open universe.
• 57:53
  Speaker 10: Trilogy of insanity.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Then the Transformers show up to fight against the transforming
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Starship Enterprise.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Autobots.
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: It's like a five-year-old kid pitching a movie.
• 58:05
  Speaker 10: But who can save us? The Avengers, that's who.
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: Avengers World Police.
• 58:11
  Speaker 10: Thank God we have. So, yeah, did we want to
• 58:14
  Speaker 10: get to that?
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: You did say if you wait until the end of
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: the credit sequence, Samuel L.
• 58:18
  Speaker 10: Jackson shows up and he's like, Godzilla, we need your help.
• 58:23
  Speaker 10: We need you to join our team. He's like, I
• 58:24
  Speaker 10: don't work well with a team. I'm a rogue lizard.
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: We're looking for a monster that says bad motherfucker.
• 58:34
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: Where was your lead in?
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: Actually, now that I think about it, if Samuel L.
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: Jackson was in the Godzilla movie, it would have been
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: fine because he saved Robocop.
• 58:43
  Speaker 10: It should have been like he was the new Raymond Burr.
• 58:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, oh my God.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Look over there.
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: Motherfucking lizard.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: That's a pissed off Raymond Burr.
• 58:51
  Speaker 9: There's a motherfucking lizard in a motherfucking city.
• 58:54
  Speaker 10: Motherfucking lizard tearing up a motherfucking city. I will kill
• 58:58
  Speaker 10: all of you.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: He just gets a rocket launcher and does it single-handedly.
• 59:05
  Speaker 10: Look, you guys, watch this. Just takes out both of
• 59:08
  Speaker 10: the aliens. I can see that, yeah.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: I'd watch that. I'd watch that.
• 59:13
  Speaker 10: Let's get Samuel on board with this. I'm going to
• 59:16
  Speaker 10: fire him my own message here.
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: I'll text him, you get a purple lightsaber.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Done. Done.
• 59:23
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we didn't work that one into our crossover.
• 59:25
  Speaker 9: We had to have missed that.
• 59:26
  Speaker 10: Samuel L. Jackson shows up, dressed like Shaft, with a
• 59:29
  Speaker 10: purple lightsaber.
• 59:30
  Speaker 9: It's off Godzilla's hand. Godzilla's like, no!
• 59:34
  Speaker 10: It's impossible! So, where do we think we're going with
• 59:38
  Speaker 10: our post-credits sequence?
• 59:42
  Speaker 9: As complete and utter bullshit?
• 59:45
  Speaker 10: Go for it.
• 59:46
  Speaker 9: The mountain that they go and look for the nuclear
• 59:50
  Speaker 9: stuff in, and half the mountain's blown off, The camera
• 59:53
  Speaker 9: pans out of that cell, goes into the cell next door,
• 59:57
  Speaker 9: and there's a cryogenically frozen Mothra larvae.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 9: Operation larvae.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 9: Did you notice that Mothra did actually have a cameo
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 9: in the movie?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 10: It's on the jar, isn't it?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah, in the childhood bedroom.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 10: So they're setting that up, right?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 9: They're setting it up. Hey, there was nuclear fallout in
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: that place.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 10: Where he was sitting.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 11: In Fukushima.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 10: Mm-hmm. I think we see it all coming together right now.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 9: I just don't know how you do Mothra. And Mothra's
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 9: not a bad guy. What's Godzilla like? Yep, you're making
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 9: a hurricane with your wings.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 10: Dude, cut it out.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 9: Ain't nobody got time for that. Godzilla versus welfare.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 10: So do they team up then? So then it's like
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 10: Mothra versus Mechagodzilla.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 9: That's what it's going to be. It's going to be
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 9: the U.S. government is afraid that Godzilla might go rogue
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 9: and trample another city. So we designed a mechanical one
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 9: that looks exactly like it.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 10: Or Team Godzilla.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, there you go.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Just a bunch of guys in a big Godzilla suit.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: And they come out and a few hundred guys move
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: their right leg, a few hundred guys move their left leg.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 10: And he's kind of Mecha Godzilla. I think this is
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 10: all coming together.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, in the second one there will be a Godzilla friend.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 9: It'll be Godzilla and Mothra, probably.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Mecha Mothra.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 9: Mecha Mothra.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 10: Oh, that's what we need.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: Versus Mecha Rodan. And Mecha King Ghidorah.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 10: Can we Mecha anything else?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Huh? Mecha the Golden Gate Ridge and make it come
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: to life and fight with people.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: I feel like since this one did so well, though,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 9: they're probably going to green light the Gamera movie.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 10: Will we have crossover?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 9: Gamera versus Godzilla. Shell versus Spying Spike.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 10: Shell goes to hell.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 10: We've got to get a tagline going on this. Come on.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 10: Heroes in a half... Oh, wait. That's already.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 9: That's going to be awful.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 10: That's already been ruined by him, too.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: That Gamera versus the Ninja Turtles.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: We did leave them out of that last scenario. Can
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: we have Gamera bite the head off of Michael Bay?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Is that the opening shot? Because I'd be okay with that.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: That would be amazing. No, then we'll just have April
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: O'Neil running around chasing the story, and it will be
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: like the 98 guns.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 9: Oh, God.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 10: We need a reporter to follow around for the whole
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 10: damn movie. And Hank Azera for some reason.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 9: He was really good in that. No, I can't wear
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 9: the shoes. I only know how to do the cleaning.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 10: God sakes.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Is it the wrong movie?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 10: It's sad that that was a real thing in our lifetime.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 9: That was an amazing film. It's better than the Godzilla movie.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: It's another one of those I don't understand how it happened.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 10: Alright, so everyone's looking forward to the sequel. That's what
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 10: we take from this. I kind of am. I mean,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 10: that's where I stand.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: By the end of it, I'm like, the last fight
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: almost redeems the bad that's the middle of this movie.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: And like, I want to see where it's going next.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: I don't hate that character. I don't hate that fighting.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Let's just do it in a better scenario.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 9: You think about how.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 9: I want to.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: I'm going straight out the door.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 10: I'm out of here. I'm out of here.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 9: Direct to sci-fi.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 10: And I'm taking this popcorn with me.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 9: But it's hilarious because it's like you think about how
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 9: much you bitch about it and how awful the film
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 9: it was. You'll watch it more times in your life
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 9: than Pacific Rim.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: I will.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I'm saying. I like that last
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: fight scene so much. I'll just skip to that chapter
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: every time. But I was more impressed with that than
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: the forgettable fights in Pacific Rim.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: I've already seen Pacific Rim more times than I've seen Godzilla.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 10: You've had a year, though. In your lifetime, which will
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 10: you watch more?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 7: Pacific Rim?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: I think so, actually. I think so.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 10: Will you be showing the kid Pacific Rim coming up?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Most likely.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 10: It's more fighting?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: It speaks to my inner child, you know? If I
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: have to watch.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: Godzilla again, I'll be slicing open my wrist.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 10: I'm telling you.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: It was just too little, too late.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: I really didn't care, you know? I might watch that
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: money shot again.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 10: I'm telling you, that last scene, it worked. It was hot.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 10: But had it come in at the halfway point, had we.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Gotten a real fight when the doors closed, would that
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: have saved it for you?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 10: At that halfway point, would it have redeemed it?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: Then you have to have something that will top that
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: for the final sequence. So, you know, okay, you can
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: have the oral thing in the middle, and maybe we
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: have the anal thing at the end.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 10: Wait, what movie were you watching? I think you were
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 10: watching something else.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: It's nuclear fire.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: It's got to go in one way and out the other.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: Did it really count how many times it happened? It
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 9: only happened twice. I feel like it should have happened
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 9: so much more. And it's like, even, and I don't
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 9: remember the name of it, but like the most recent,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 9: I think it's like something bad, like Godzilla Meltdown or whatever,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 9: where he's dying, where he's overheating the Japanese one. I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: don't know. Apparently, I'm the only person that watches it.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Godzilla meltdown?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 9: He's dying by overreacting. We sponsored this movie. But when
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 9: he powers up for the blast, it's the coolest thing ever.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 9: And that's one thing that I thought was really missed.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 9: And then he didn't, and I was like, I just
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 9: didn't think they were going to have him fucking breathe
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 9: fire in this one.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it goes a long time.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 9: It's like if I was Godzilla and I'm getting my
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 9: ass handed to me three times over, oh, yeah, I
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 9: got the fire thing.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 10: By the way, did I tell you guys I can
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 10: breathe fire? I've got a nuclear blast.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I have the sword thing.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 9: Oh, God, the sword. When that thing came out, I
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 9: was like, sweet, why the fuck didn't they use that
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 9: in the beginning?
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: Finishing move.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 10: Suddenly it's Mortal Kombat.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: Up, up, down, over, side.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 10: Yes, Godzilla wins!
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 8: Up from the depths, 30 stories high.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 11: Free fire, it's head in the sky. Godzilla, Godzilla, Godzilla. Godzilla, Godzilla, Godzilla.
• 1:06:13
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• 1:06:36
  Speaker 7: Doo-Wop Shop. We're serious about music.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 13: He was the wizard of a thousand kings. And I
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 13: chanced to meet him one night wandering.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: So as I said, we've been to the Chicago Wizard
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: World before, so they've got quite a few. They've got
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 10: They're all over the country. That's what I was going
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 10: to say.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Since they're inviting us to hang around here, I thought
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: we would go ahead and give the rundown. That's the
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: difference with this one is it's not just in one city.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: It's something they've done kind of everywhere now. They've sort
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: of taken over. So you can go to wizardworld.com and
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: find out where they are in the near future. The
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: rundown of the upcoming ones, end of May into June,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: is Atlanta. You've got Philadelphia after that, San Antonio, back
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: to Chicago, Richmond. So it's like anywhere in this general
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: part of the country, you know, the United States.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 10: Are you stopping at Richmond because we've got more to go?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's plenty. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 10: Nashville, Austin, Ohio.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: I thought Ohio was just generalized.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 10: You know, that state.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: But anyway, yes, you can go to wizardworld.com and find
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: out where the next show will be near you.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 10: You should definitely go. Come hang out. That's what we're doing.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Definitely check out wizardworld.com for all of your wizard world
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: type needs.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 8: This is Dan Ackman. You're listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: And keep kicking ass, guys.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 8: That was terrible. It's part of your problem, you know.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 8: You haven't seen enough movies.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 8: And now, on with the show.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Alright, we've pretty much beat Godzilla to death. Is there
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: anything else we'd like to pass along? Any other new
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: movies you'd like to tear into or movements in the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Hollywood scene you'd like to trash?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 11: Oh.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 10: What's coming up next anything we're looking forward to.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: So you haven't seen X-Men right no I haven't seen X-Men.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: Are you an X-Men fan not really no well okay
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: let me backtrack I like the last.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 9: One oh okay so like X-Men fan of.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: Comic books oh the comic books not really.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 9: Or like the story arc or anything Not really.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Although, as a bit of trivia, my mom was in
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: the third one, I think.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 11: Nice.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was an extra. And it's one of these cases.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: That you'll never be able to pick her up. Nice.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: But she's in the, who's it? Jean Grey that dies?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 10: Spoiler alert. And Leupold.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: Anyways, my mom's in the funeral scene.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 10: She kills Jean Grey. She attends her funeral.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: Mom attends her funeral.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 9: Have you seen it? The new one?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 9: I think it's a very difficult story to translate from
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 9: comic book to film. I think it would leave so
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 9: many people unhappy. I think they did a really good job.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're talking about just the story overall or this
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: specific story that they wrote for this screenplay?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 9: This screenplay, but also this screenplay and concert with all
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 9: of the movies. It has fucked up everything.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: It is interesting how much they totally attach themselves to
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: the old, because usually you get this far in on
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: a series, they're like, let's just cut this loose and
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: start over.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: So they're almost Star Trek-ing it. They kind of are like, okay,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: we're going to embrace the idea of what's been going on,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: but we're kind of going to do our own thing completely.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 9: I think in the one thing, I mean, everybody's going
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 9: to argue. I know you haven't seen it, and I'm
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 9: sorry about things that are about.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 10: To be said.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: Are you going to spoil it?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 9: The Jean Grey film.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: La, la, la, la, la, la, la.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: This is going to ruin this on the radio.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 9: So the thing that upsets me the most. I'm done ruining.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 9: The thing that upsets me the most isn't that they're
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 9: bringing back people that are dead or changing the story
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 9: the way that they're changing it. It's the fact that, like,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 9: Hugh Jackman's getting so ripped in this one that why
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 9: wasn't he this ripped in the first one? It's just, like,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 9: consistency errors.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 10: You're throwing off continuity.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: I know, continuity errors, man.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 10: Overripped this.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: I think he's just trying to fight the fact that
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: he's now, like, what, 15 years older?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: So it's like.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 10: For a man that doesn't age?
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: Because I was thinking that as they get into this
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: story and I'm like.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 10: He's going to get older.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: He's going to get old eventually. How are you guys
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: going to explain that? Are you going to start CGing
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: his face? I mean, he's, you know, guys have a
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: little more of a run. Sometimes you can still seem
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: not so old when you're in your 50s. So you
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: can skate by for an extra 10 years maybe, but.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 10: We've already killed about ten years in this last run
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 10: since the third one.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 9: I'm just so excited.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Well, they've already had a history of seeking.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: They did Patrick Stewart.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 10: Going backwards. So, I mean, they can. If they can
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 10: make it work, more power to them. It's just interesting
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 10: how it plays out.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: So, I don't know.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: I think for you it's definitely worth seeing.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: But, yeah.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 9: Watch the after credit scene. That movie has one. It
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 9: gives me a fan heart on.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 10: We knew it was coming.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 9: I thought that they would never have the balls to
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 9: do it, and they're doing it, and I'm so excited
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 9: about it.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: So for extra nerd points here, what do you think
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: about the fact that... So they're owned by different companies,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: but now they're going to have sort of characters that
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: fall into both.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 9: They're never going to put the other people together with
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 9: the other.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 10: People, though. I thought they already did, though. I thought
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 10: they already in the lead-up at the end of.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Captain America 2, I thought they already had.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 9: Oh, and they are played by the same people?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: No, I think they're going to be the same characters
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: in two different sets of movies, but two different.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 10: Sets of actors playing them. That's what's really weird. That's
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 10: going to be strange.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 9: That's going to be very confusing for the children.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah. But, again, kids adapt.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 9: I don't understand why Marvel at this point, like, Marvel
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 9: has made so much money. I don't understand why they
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 9: would not double down and just be like, we're going
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 9: to buy X-Men and Spider-Man. And here's all of our
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 9: billions of dollars because we're going to make it back 11-fold.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 10: And they have Disney money now. You think they could
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 10: just be like, okay, Sony, let's talk.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: How do we get Spider-Man to do a crossover with
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: the Avengers?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 10: You seem like that needs to, you know. Again, I
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 10: don't even know if that's a good idea.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 9: Did you see Spider-Man 2?
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 10: I've avoided it so far.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 9: Okay, so here's the deal. Spider-Man has proved himself once
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 9: again that he does not need standalone movies. Just like
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 9: the Hulk. These people need to be in movies with
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 9: other people, mainly Robert Downey Jr.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 10: That's what's funny, like, with the Hulk. I've said this
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 10: a few times now.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, it's funny how much, like, doesn't work
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: by himself. Doesn't work by himself. makes that freaking movie
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: like everybody loves him in Avengers he's like he steals
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 9: So much that they're like oh let's make a standalone.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: Movie and you know that's gonna kill it people are
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: like nobody cares about him by himself but as a
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: guy that comes in and saves the scene two or
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: three times in that movie like you're just like that
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: makes him so awesome so yeah there are kind of
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know Spider-Man seems like he's a strong enough
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: character he can do he.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 9: Should be able to carry a movie but they ruin it.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: Every fucking time they ruin it well that's I still
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: blame Garfield for that him and his fucking lasagna keep
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: ruining this movie. So I don't know. I, I think
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: it would be interesting if they already, is it time.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 10: To reboot yet?
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, can we reboot and get rid of that character?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Cause I already said that the other day.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 10: I was just like, I should have given it to
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 10: Donald Glover. It would have been different. It would have
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 10: been interesting. And he's a strong enough.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Actor and it would have been an interesting character.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 10: And I would have liked to have seen that Spider-Man.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: I could care less about the Spider-Man.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: So, Well, I mean, okay, the first reboot that they
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: did a couple of years ago, I thought that was
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: actually pretty good.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 9: I liked everything other than Tobey Maguire.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 10: We're talking the Raimi reboot. See, that's the thing.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: You're talking about the Amazing reboot.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 10: See, I just didn't care. I'm just trying not to
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 10: compare it to the the Raimi movies, but you kind
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 10: of can't.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: To me, those first two Raimi movies are so well
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: put together as a superhero.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 10: They're not even like.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: Those were comic book movies.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 10: They are.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: That is Raimi's style. He frames the action. He does
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: these zoom-ins. You can see all the way back through
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: Darkman and Evil Dead. He has that sensibility. But my
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: problem with that is it calls attention to himself. And
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: he's treating it like a comic book. You almost kind
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: of half expect the movie screen to be that comic
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: book panel. And bubbles, you know, dialogue bubbles to pop up.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 10: So do we have to take it that dark, though?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 10: Everything has to be Batman now?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 9: I feel like that's what they want to do now.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: For those of us who grew up on comic books,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: and now we've gotten to an age where a lot
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: of people still follow comic books, but it We're trying
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: not to be embarrassed by it. And so we're now
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: treating these movies as a way to legitimize our geek passions.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: And so I think in certain respects it does work.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: You're able to inject a lot of depth and drama
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: and character and make these characters more real, as if
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: they're coming into our world you know and that's the
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: problem I had with something like Richard Lester's Superman 2
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: is that instead of instead of the filmmakers trying to
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: bring those characters into our world he was trying to
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: take the audience and put it in the comic book.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: World and I think in the right property that could
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: work like I always liked those Superman movies because I
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: felt like that's what it was doing it was just
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: capturing that Superman it what it sacrifices for being silly
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: comic book movies it gets the idea behind that character
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: and what he's supposed to represent which i don't know
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: what is your feeling as we get from one superhero
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: like when when you get to the the last superman
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: the the reboot of superman again like i feel like
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: he totally misses the mark as like not understanding the
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: character not not pacing a good story like i feel
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: like everything about that.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 10: Last Superman movie I felt like missed the mark. You
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 10: could tell that.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 9: They were using it as a flagship to just set
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 9: up the DC universe. And it's like, we're going to
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 9: compete with Marvel.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 10: But they don't.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and you can't.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 10: Well, I mean, you could if it was well done,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 10: but this is not the way to do it. He
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 10: just doesn't get the universe.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: But back to the amazing Spider-Man, I think they did
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: a pretty good job there in balancing teen drama, teen romance, and,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, okay, it could have been an Archie movie
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: for all we care about.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: But, no, but, I mean, you got Spider-Man.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: You balanced it out with a little bit of a
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: more realistic drama rather than, you know, Tobey Maguire, I
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: never believed.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 10: See, I liked him as just the dorky kid. Like,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 10: he rang true as that.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was sort of a comic book-y, dorky kid.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 11: It is.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: It was a parody, in a way.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: It is, but to me, it was so well done
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: that I've seen so many movies lift from that one now.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 10: Like, it's this perfect.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: structure of a superhero movie of an origin movie like
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: it was very specific as to how to make all
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: that work and it did it really well whereas I
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: think I don't know the Garfield one like it's so
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: he's trying to be so serious but at the same
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: time still draw from the stuff that they built in
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: the Raimi movies that it's like it doesn't mix to
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: me I don't know but.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: I hear in the new Spider-Man now they've gone back
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: to that Raimi sort of style of filmmaking What I
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: really admired about the first Amazing Spider-Man was that you know,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: for him swinging around the city, I mean, they used
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: real stuntmen, and it was a real situation.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: And now they've gone back to the swooping cameras.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 9: It's the third Raimi movie. Too much has gone on.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: So CG, yeah. Yeah, so CG.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: And, you know, these are shots that, you know, even
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: though they can do it extremely realistically, they can get
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: the lighting and textures all right, but In the back
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: of your head, you're going, that shot is impossible.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 10: This is a video game. That's what I feel like
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 10: a lot of times.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I think if you like real people swinging around
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: on ropes, turn off the dark is what you need
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: to go see.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 10: There's some guys on ropes. They have costumes. You're going
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 10: to love it. I wasn't sure what to think of
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 10: that either. That's a new level of reality that I
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 10: was not prepared for.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: Turn off the dark. I'm waiting for something to fall
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: from the sky.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: Just as a side note, in my early years, I
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: went to Japan, and I went to see.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: Kabuki. What's Kabuki?
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: It's one of those Japanese traditional cultural.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Very theatrical.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: Extremely theatrical.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 11: And....
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: And so I went during the matinee.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: This was the time where it's much cheaper to go
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: in the matinee if you're just a student or whatever.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: And so I'm sitting on my own, and the whole
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: theater is dark. The stage is dark, and it's very emotional,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: and there's a character in the center of the stage,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: and it's very stark.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: It's just a stage.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: There's, I think, sakura leaves floating down. There's dramatic lighting,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: and all along the back behind her are these flats.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: And it's just a row of flats to indicate the background.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: So here she is, and she's talking about her long-lost
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: love or something.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: And this is extremely emotional.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: And out of the corner of my eye, on the
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: left side, I see one of the flats.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: Start to fall. And the next one falls. And it
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: was like a house of cards, all falling down.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: And behind the flask are all these other kabuki actors
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: in half makeup, smoking cigarettes. And they're going, oh, shit.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: And, you know, I thought about this later. I said,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: you know what? I would have paid extra to see
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: this performance.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 10: If you would have known this was coming.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: I think you have to kind of decide going in,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: especially when you get into the film, it's like, I
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: don't mind the dramatized stuff. Like I don't mind, again,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: sometimes we separate the theater thing versus movies and we
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: want movies to be so realistic. And I feel like
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: as long as you kind of set the ground rules,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: like sometimes I'm okay with something just embracing whatever cheesy.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 7: Thing it is.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: You know, if it's a comic book, if it's theatrical,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: if it's whatever, you just kind of have to stay
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: within your parameters of like, this is the universe we're
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: setting up. This is the way characters are going to act.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: I think it's okay if you do that.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: So with this new Amazing Spider-Man number two, I mean,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: they kind of went back on themselves. They set something
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: up in the first one, and then they didn't follow
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: through on the second one.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: And they're also falling into the trap of every superhero movie,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: which is we have to have so many villains for
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: no good reason.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 9: Oh, Sinister Six now.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 10: I'm like, how many?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: We can't.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: Have they learned nothing from all of these other movies? Like,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: it's rare that any of them work with more than
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: one villain. And if so, it's usually a weird dynamic
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: that saves it. But yeah, they have to keep cramming
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: in more villains.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 9: I don't understand.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 10: So, with that. Uh, do you have anything coming up
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 10: to tell people about? Do you have stuff for them
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 10: to look for?
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: Um, uh, no.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: Should they befriend you on Facebook and go find you
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: at upcoming events and buy your posters of awesomeness?
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: Um, yeah, no, I, I, I'd say, you know, uh,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: keep a lookout for, for the Andersons. I think, um,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: and you know, uh, I think they're talking about having
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: a traveling exhibition in the States next year. So if
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: you were a fan of Thunderbirds or Fireball XL5 or UFO,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: Keep an eye out for that.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: I think it's something that is a lost... I don't
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: want to say art, but it's something that we all
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: kind of grew up with, and it's something that I
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: don't think we should forget about. Don't let all this
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: great stuff fall by the wayside just because it's a
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: few years old.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: I think there's potential to have that backlash thing. I mean,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: you think how much we've gone back to old technology now.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 10: In a very short span of time.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: The other day they were playing an episode of Third
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Rock from the Sun. First of all, it's funny to watch,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 10: Our little kid grow up to be like this super
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 10: Hollywood like heartthrob now. And I'm like, he's a dorky
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 10: long haired kid.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't seem that long ago to me, but
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: it's just long enough that it's like, that's weird.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 10: But it's funny how much.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: Like that stuff very quickly dated, like they're making all
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: these references and like a midway in.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 10: John Lithgow, like, makes a joke about how, you know,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 10: they're talking about CDs.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: And he's like, I wonder if people embrace the rich,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: more wonderful sound of vinyl.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 10: And I'm like, that was a joke then.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: He was making the joke of how outdated and archaic
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: vinyl is.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 10: And I'm like, in a span of ten years, we
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 10: have come full circle. People love vinyl. Like, there is
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 10: this weird, like.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: rubber band effect of like we hate it we hate
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: it oh my god this is the greatest thing ever
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: and I think we get we've been so oversaturated with
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: CG with all this you know new special effects and
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know I think we're getting to the point
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: that we are going to have that where the rubber
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: band snaps back and we're going to get to be like, Oh,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: these puppets are awesome. And no, I, you know, I
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: want marionettes. I want somebody actually physically doing something.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: So I don't know about that. I mean, I think.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 10: Within a subculture, I would like to think that.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: I would like to think that.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: Yes. I don't think mainstream, but I think there's going
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: to be much again, like the vinyl thing. I think
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: a subculture is going to come back and be like, no,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: this is our thing.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: My experience has been all, you know, most of the
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: kids have been, you know, uh, the latest generation.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: They won't even take a look at the old movies.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 10: They don't, It's old. It's true.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: It does register so early that you don't think it will.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: Like when they're really little kids and they'll just be like,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: that was, I don't know. Like it just clicks in
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: their head differently and they don't respond to it the
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: same because they know it's old.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so I don't know.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: Again, I think it's up to us as the geeks
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: having children now to raise them right and like, Let
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: them experience things the way that they're supposed to and
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: just sort of develop their own taste and not worry
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: about what everybody else is doing.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 9: I think Christopher Nolan did that first Batman really well
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 9: with the light use of CG. I mean, there was
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 9: a lot, but when you think about it, it's really
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 9: just him. As an origin story, you don't need a
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 9: lot of CG to begin with, but it's not as
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 9: much craziness as Avengers.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 9: If only we can get our... I mean, again, I
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 9: guess it's Batman. He doesn't have to fly and explode things.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Avengers overuses that stuff in the end.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 9: He swoops.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 10: He swoops. He hangs.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: Which, actually, I hate that part about Batman.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: That he kind of flies and he really shouldn't be
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: able to. He should probably die really quick.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 10: He's got money.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: It's cool.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 10: Rich people can fly.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: It's all right.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: I think the technology is coming back. The audience will
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: find it. We're all coming back around to old school technology.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: It's not really the technique.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: You have to have the writing to back it up.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: You can look at something like Team America.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: If it was poor writing, that film would have died
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: no matter if it was live action or puppets or.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Bits of fruit.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah. It makes a big difference.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: I think if we've learned nothing from this week's movie,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: writing might just save your project.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 10: So hire better writers. Everyone across the board.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: It's unfortunate. Writers are low on the totem pole.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 10: Very low.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: Very low.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 10: And interchangeable.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: And you can bring in nine more and somehow having
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: way too many of them makes things better.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: I think it's come to the point where almost anybody
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: can call themselves a writer.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 10: I'm working on something right now.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: There you go. You've proven my point.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 10: Don't let any idiot be a writer.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 9: It was wonderful meeting you, Mr.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 10: Chu.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 9: Where are you from? Where do you live?
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: Vancouver.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 9: Oh, nice.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 10: It's where the real jobs are.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 9: Where the Canada is.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: Well, who is it?
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 5: I think Sony is moving their entire.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: Special effects operation up there now.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 10: Based on the L.A.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: Version of it?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 10: Or were they already out of the country?
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: They're saying they're closing down the one in L.A. and
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: sending everything up to B.C.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: Not that that will affect me.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: To be honest, apart from Battlestar, I really haven't had
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: a whole lot of contact with the big budget studios.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: So I wonder, where does most of your work come
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: from now?
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 10: Like, outside stuff?
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: You know, uh, most of my stuff actually comes through
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: Facebook and the people that I meet through Facebook. And so, um,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: I guess it's just my personality or my nature that
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: I tend to gravitate towards, you know, the, the, the,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: the independence. And, uh, I kind of want to see
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: them succeed. Um, I've worked in a studio environment before,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: and I really don't enjoy it that much.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 10: It's so much fun.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, you're another cog in the wheel. There's
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: always somebody else with an opinion better than yours.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 10: Who is higher up on the chain, and you can't
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 10: argue with them.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And, you know, yeah, you can't argue.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: That's the thing. Whereas on an independent, okay, you have
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: another director or producer, but not as many.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: Not as many steps to get a green light.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 10: And usually it's just you working with the creators, more
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 10: or less, and them trying to.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can ask them questions.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: Is this what you were thinking? And they can be
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: more specific. Whereas if you want to talk to a.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: Director in a big-budget movie, good luck. You're just going
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: to get... You have to go through so many people.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: And even then.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: a lot of these films are, they're so big and
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: the directors.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 9: Don't necessarily have a good idea.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: They just, you know, they have their, their time is all, all,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: you know, tied up elsewhere. And it's like, okay, just
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: give me 10 different versions and I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: choose from that.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 10: That's putting no effort in whatsoever. It's just pick and choose.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it, it.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 5: Makes my life more difficult. Uh, not that I, not
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: that I really care, but, but it also.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 10: Shows they have no concept of what they want.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: Like a real, you know, if you're an artist, if
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: you're a, an auteur of what you're trying to create, uh,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: You have a very singular vision, probably, but when you're just.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 10: Brought in for hire, more or less, you're.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: Just slapped together. And that's the way most directors are
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: these days.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: They're people that are brought in for hire. They're basically
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 5: yes-men that will make the film that the producers want.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 5: And that's essentially the problem that happened with Ant-Man just
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: this week.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: Marvel fired him because.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: Because he actually had a good idea and a vision.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 5: Well, he had a different take on what the film
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: was supposed to be, and Marvel didn't.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 10: Agree with that. Yeah, a talented take. They didn't like that.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 10: We don't like people with skill or talent. Get the
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 10: hell out of here.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 9: They forgot where they were just a few years ago.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: They are hiring talented directors. I mean, Joss Whedon and
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: James Gunn is actually a good.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: Director, too.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 10: I think he's really good.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: They're making some good decisions, but I guess.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: What is his name?
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: Edward Wright.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: Edward Wright, yeah.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: I'm just guessing it was just too foreign for him
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 5: or too unusual.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 10: I don't know that he's in... That's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: It surprised me that he wanted to do a superhero movie.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: Again, that's why I was saying the other day. I
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: was looking forward to seeing him because he's got such
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: a distinct visual style. He's got such a distinct way
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: that he creates his characters that I would be interested
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: to see. I've seen so many generic superhero movies. I
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: would love to see somebody with that much style come
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: in and do their own spin on a superhero movie,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: which he could have done, but not now.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 5: Well, what other director out there would you like to
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: see attack a superhero movie?
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 10: Well, they've been handing it to him. That's the thing. Like,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 10: the fact that they gave Joss Whedon a chance. Like,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 10: I am kind of a fan. Who else?
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: Who else?
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 10: Who's got, like, a very unique vision that you would say?
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: I was amazed they gave it to James Gunn, because
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: to me, James Gunn is very... outside the box like
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: he is a very and again look at the little
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: like something like slither like slither is not a hollywood
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: friendly movie it is a weird movie and it it's
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: very structurally weird like it doesn't need to fall into
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: yeah it's at best a b-movie it's just a weird
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: like something that you run across on cable and i
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: mean what the hell is this but like he makes
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: it work because he he puts so much heart into
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: it and like he really cares about this weird story
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: So I thought that was strange that they even gave
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: him such a huge property on this new landscape of theirs.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: But I'm trying to think who else is that original anymore.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, Edgar Wright I think is so underrated because
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: I think there's very few people, especially in comedy, that
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: are doing anything outside the box. Comedy has become the
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: wasteland at this point. For all the fun action movies
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: we have out there, I think comedies are getting dumber.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: and dumber and more mainstream and watered down to the
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: point of stupidity now.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 10: So every once in a while when.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: You get something like that, like the stuff that he does,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, there still is something there that could
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: be done with it.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen an American comedy that I've found funny
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: in years.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: In years and years.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: The one that we did a show on that I
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: was really impressed with and found myself in the middle
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: of a discussion going, I can't believe how long it's
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: been since I've really liked a comedy this much. was
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: uh mystery team have you.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: Seen the i haven't seen i know it's.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: Those guys yeah i mean and again there's there's a
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: group of guys that like started stuff completely on their
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: own sat there funded everything themselves posted on youtube posted
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: on funny or die or whatever it was and built
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: this whole universe and then that became they're like they
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: took all of their money they made from those little
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: videos and funded their own movie and that's why it
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: got that way so like that Even that director, like,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: he started doing, again, I think he ended up doing
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: some TV stuff after that. He's still kind of trying
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: to get into, like, mainstream Hollywood stuff. But, like, I
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: think that's such a well put together movie. So atypical
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: of what is out there. And, like, I can't imagine
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: them continuing to want to do that kind of stuff.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: Because it's too smart and original.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: There's actually a, I think it's like a YouTube video.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: I just saw it, like, two nights ago. And it's
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: comparing Edgar Wright's.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: Comedy style or filming style to typical American comedy movie
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: and why his version of filmmaking works better for comedy
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: than the American. And it basically comes down to he's
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 5: setting up the joke visually whereas everything in America is
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: just Several people in the room talking.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: It's hiring a known personality and letting them say their
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: stupid thing.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 10: That's what all those Adam Sandler movies. They're not funny.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: And the only thing they're building around is Seth Rogen
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: or Adam Sandler. They don't have anything funny built in.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: It's just, you guys kind of wing it and do
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: your thing, and that'll make it okay.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, no.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 10: Whereas, even if.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: You take out the visual, I mean, half of his
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: gags are visual gags. But even, like, the writing going
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: into it. Like, he writes stuff that's kind of subtle
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: going through. And then the punchline might be the visual joke. But, like,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: it only works when he sets it up by writing
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: a good scene.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 10: And, like, I don't know. You don't get that with
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 10: mainstream comedy.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: So it's just dumb.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 10: Like, they're so dumb.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: It's strange. I mean, yeah.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 5: You see a lot of, you know, on the comedy channel,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: there are a lot of good writers.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: There are a lot of good stand-up comedians.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: There are.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: But when it comes to movies, no, nothing.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 10: Because only the dumb stuff makes money. That's what I
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 10: think it is. So they keep greenlighting these same.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's only the dumb stuff makes money.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 10: I don't know. Look at the comedies that have made money.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: Has somebody ever tried to make a smart comedy and
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: it failed?
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 10: How often do they try to make a smart comedy
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 10: is the problem.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. No, I think it's because dumb comedies are
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: easier to write.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: They're easier to fund. because you have nothing but names involved,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: and then they.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 10: Throw it together. I don't know, I think that's... It's
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 10: just lazy filmmaking. I mean, the closest one, like the...
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 10: Was it This is the End? That Seth Rogen one?
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: Was the funniest thing I've seen those people do in years,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: and it's because they were.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 10: Stepping outside of the little.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: It was almost meta, like they were making fun of themselves,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: and how dumb their normal things are, and the way
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: that everybody perceives them, like they were playing a weird,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: skewed version of their own selves.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 10: And that was the funniest thing.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're basically, like, because they're doing, like, people, like,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: they are playing basically themselves.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 10: So people come up to Seth.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: Rogen at the beginning, and they're like, hey, do the
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: Seth laugh. Like, they've got, like, the fact that he
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: puts up with us all day long. So, like, they're
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: making fun of how the audience perceives them anyway. And
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: then they start, like, skewing it, and.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 10: They've got, what's his name from Superbad?
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: Not Jonah Hill, the guy from, I mean, he's basically, like,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: he does this version of himself, like, he's just a
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: coked out partier.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 10: Like, and like, I don't think he's really like that.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 10: So he's going out of his way to make himself
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 10: look horrible.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: Like, so I'm like, that's almost the funniest thing I've
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: seen out of any of these people.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 10: Like, I don't know.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: That's, that's the closest thing in that little camp of
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: like all those guys that keep getting stuff green lit,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: but like, they're just usually not very funny.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 10: And that one, because it's so outside.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: Their normal scenario and they don't, They don't dial back
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: on that end of the world thing.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 10: Like I thought it was just going to be very
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 10: light so they didn't like ruffle any feathers or.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: Because it gets kind of religious at one point. It
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: takes on very biblical versions.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 10: Of the end of the world. And I'm like that
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 10: could step on toes.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: Like I was not expecting them to take it that
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: way just because somebody would get upset, especially the way
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: that they do it.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: But that's the thing if you're doing a comedy you
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 5: can't pull punches.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't but they always seem like they do like
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: they always seem like they.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 4: Like what's the most mainstream yeah what's what's the instead
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: of writing something that's kind of edgy that's gonna piss
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: a lot of people off let's just have them fall
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: down you know what's the most wrong way we can
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: take this?
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: Actually, today I heard somebody say that their wives or
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: something was berating them for liking Team America because it
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: was so racist.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the point.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 10: They were making fun of racism. You know?
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: But, again, that's what I think our culture has gotten
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: so dumbed down now that, like, we're not even getting
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: satire anymore.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 10: Like, we're so dumb.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: We've bought into so much dumb material for the last
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: 20 years that, like, we're missing the point of the
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: comedy sometimes.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 10: It's so over their heads, they don't even realize it
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 10: went over their heads.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: I don't get it.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 5: So, what, now Jeff Foxworthy is another comedian?
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: He's a social commentator?
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 10: If he was doing it well, he could be. He's not.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: If he would but again that was one of those
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: like even in the beginning that's an example of like
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: when he started out.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 10: Doing those stupid you might be a redneck jokes.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: He was making fun of those guys and they all
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: started oh that's hilarious i'm like no he's making fun
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: of you the one that's laughing at it you're the
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: one he's making fun of and like i think even
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: he realized it and went oh well shut up they're
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: pet and like they started writing those huge checks and
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: he's like I guess I'll keep doing this for 15,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: 20 years now. Like he just keeps doing that. And like,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: I can't blame him because look how much money.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 10: He made off that stupid concept. And like, now I
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 10: can host a game show and still make a living.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 10: So who cares? So, I mean, if people are that
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 10: dumb that they get on board and give you that
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 10: much money, I can't blame you. I don't still, I
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 10: still don't like it, but I can't blame you.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: That's, that's one of those like early on that I
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: was like, these people that are laughing at this, they.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 10: Don't realize what they're laughing at.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: Like, they think they get the joke, but the real
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: joke is it's on you.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 10: You're an idiot.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: Well, they think it's not applying to them.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they think those guys are idiots. No, wait, you're
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 10: the idiot. You're missing the point.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, again, that was probably the turning point in American
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: comedy was the blue collar comedy.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 10: Or even like the kings of comedy had to like, Specifically,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 10: this is only for the black audiences. I'm like, can
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 10: we just do funny? Is that okay?
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: Everybody had to take their specific group and make it like,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: this is the Hispanic comedy tour.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 10: Just be funny. Is that okay? Could you just write
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 10: something clever? Is that an option for you?
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: Everything had to be so specific that you other people
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: aren't going to get this.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 10: I'm like, no, nobody's going to get it because they're
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 10: not very funny.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 10: Comedy is so hard.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: Or the Inuit comedy. Yeah.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that was up there somewhere. We didn't see
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: it because it didn't tour very low. Somewhere, somebody did
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: a version of that.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 10: Just write some funny.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 5: The only great American comedy, the last one I saw
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 5: was probably Raising Arizona.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 10: See, that's brilliant comedy.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: Everything after that, it was just dumb, dumb, dumb.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, there's not much.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: There is actually one I saw a few years later.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: And it's, of all things, it's Canadian.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: And it is very, very funny. The writing in it
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 5: is very smart.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: And you never see this movie anywhere. And it's strange.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 5: It was partially funded by the Sci-Fi Channel. So, you know,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 5: they can put it on whenever they want.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: But you still never see it. Which one was this?
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: It's a movie. In Canada, it's called Top of the
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: Food Chain. Top of the Food Chain.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: In the States, I think they changed the title to Invasion.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: And it is sort of a B-movie about an alien invasion.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: And it's very cheaply made. But the comedy in it
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: is so sharp. And it's almost... When I saw it,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: I thought, my God, this is the next great comedy
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 5: that And nobody's seen it.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: It disappeared. And it's strange.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: It is very strange because you think this was a
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 5: movie that should have gotten a cult following had people
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: seen it.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: And it's weird, again, because there's so much comedy talent
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: out there. Like you were saying, there's like a good
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: amount of, I don't know, there's just new wave coming about.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 5: I think a stand-up comedy is easier because it's just
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 5: one person writing, one person performing.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 10: It doesn't get so muddied and yeah.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: But I mean, there's a huge like wave coming back
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: of that. Like it died that post nineties, like they
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: beat it to death in the nineties. And it went
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: through this lull of like standups that are like, what
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: the hell do we do now? Like they're not just
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: going to give everybody a sitcom like they did before.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: So it's like, now what do we do? And it's
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: been this like.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 10: 20 years of rebuilding almost.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: And in this last five years or so, there's this
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: big rush that it's like, again, it's not mainstream, but
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: it's this hardcore cult of like, there's all these shows
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: I listen to now that are based out of LA
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: and And there's this new wave of like people that
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: just go.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 10: To comedy shows. They just, they all, and again, it's
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 10: almost this undercurrent because they're not doing TV. They're not
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 10: doing movies.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: They're all on podcasts and they're on like video stuff
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: on YouTube.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 10: They're all doing like, there's a bunch of them now
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 10: that are.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: Doing like their own series of shows or they'll take
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: like a theater version. There's a lot of like, as
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: much as I'm not thrilled with most of what I've
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: seen improv wise, there's almost that improv troop mentality of
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: what they're trying to do so they're actually doing it
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: with live audiences or with people that are totally not
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: on the radar with like people listening to podcasts or
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: watching a old streaming web series so it's like there's
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: this huge current kind of building i think but there's
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: no way to like make it cross over into mainstream
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: but i'm kind of waiting to see because i've seen
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: all these like weird little towns start doing these comedy
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: series And they get really well received. I keep trying
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: to figure out a way to do something like that
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: here because I'm like, you can't be that hard to
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: put together like a comedy festival. You need a microphone
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: most of the time. It's like, just get the people there.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: Get a microphone on stage. You don't have to have sets.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: You don't have to have a hundred other people running
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: It's as big or as small as you need it.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: It's just as you can afford to get somebody there
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: and get a venue.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 10: Some of the greatest comedians.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: Bob Newhart.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 7: Microphone.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 10: That's all you need.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: Stool. That's it.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 10: Bill Cosby.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 5: Bill Cosby.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: There he is.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: As boring as he's gotten now, he was phenomenal. Like,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: he was completely game-changing.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 10: I saw his last.
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  Speaker 3: One on TV.
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  Speaker 10: I've heard he's doing better stuff now. It's good.
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  Speaker 3: It's still good.
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  Speaker 10: He's still got it. He's just a weirder, older dude now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: He's become a strange character as the years have gone on.
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  Speaker 5: But the thing is, as old as he's gotten, the
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 5: comedy is still relevant.
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  Speaker 10: It's still.
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  Speaker 3: Relatable to everybody.
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  Speaker 10: That was like Carlin.
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  Speaker 2: As old as he got, he was equally as sharp,
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  Speaker 2: if not sharper than his 70s stuff. He was equally
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  Speaker 2: as cutting edge and kind of pushing the envelope a
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: hell of a lot further in his old age than
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: when he was still kind of the weird hippie guy
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  Speaker 2: that was on vinyl doing his stuff.
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  Speaker 10: It's funny how much some of them don't lose it.
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  Speaker 10: But yeah, I don't know. There's been this new.
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  Speaker 2: surge of comedy now that I'm kind of waiting to
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  Speaker 2: see what happens when all these talented people finally start
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: breaking through because you're starting to see a little of
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  Speaker 2: it but they keep filtering their.
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  Speaker 10: Way into mainstream stuff or like you know.
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  Speaker 5: What I would like to do I would like to
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  Speaker 5: do radio comedy again I mean a.
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  Speaker 2: Radio show that's coming back like dramatic kind of or
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  Speaker 2: like a play of some sort because there's two of
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: them now that have taken off on audio because you
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: have this have you heard of the forensics They did
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: a TV show one time called Four on the Floor.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, no, that's what I thought. I've seen that, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But before that, they were on radio.
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  Speaker 10: Because they were on Showtime with that.
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  Speaker 3: And they were hilarious.
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  Speaker 5: They were extremely, I mean, it's like the Pythons that,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 5: before they went into comedy, they were like teachers and
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: professors and scientists. And they were extremely smart.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: And so they had that, that, that.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 5: Information, that education to draw on.
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  Speaker 3: And they could make fun of it. And yes, some
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: of their stuff was political. That stuff is certainly dated.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 3: But there's other stuff in there that is universal. And
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: because it's radio.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 5: It works so much better. It really, so much better
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: than it did when they made that step to television.
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  Speaker 3: Because when it went to television, suddenly your imagination was
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: no longer in play. And it kind of looks stupid, actually.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: Again, that's the weird thing that this new avenue has
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: opened up with like podcasting and stuff is like there
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: was like a whole new generation that kind of rediscovered that.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 10: You know, it's like everything had.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: Gotten so TV oriented and like, you know, watching everything
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: on DVD. And like we hit this weird like it's
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: almost a step back. But in this different way, it
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: opens up this whole new avenue of like people that
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: are like so engrossed in like the interview part of it.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: Or now that the two that have taken off is
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: that Tales from Nightville, I think it is. And then
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: Thrilling Adventure Hour.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I've heard of that.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: They're both kind of that same thing. It's just sort
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: of based on redoing a.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 10: Radio drama from back in the day. But they're doing
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 10: it really well written, kind of smart, bringing in talented people.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 10: So it's like kind of waiting for that to break.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 10: I feel like it's got potential.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: I would love to go back into that.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: One of the funniest things that was– Hitchhiker's Guide to
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 5: the Galaxy when it was radio.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: When it was TV, it was still pretty good. It
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: was fun on TV. But when it became a movie,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: it became shit.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you once again for joining us this time around.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: And again, you've newly been adopted, so welcome to the fold.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 10: Fight your way out if you want to, but you can't.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: Can I go to the next one by Skype?
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: I was just cursing the name of Skype earlier today.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: I don't love it, so you're just going to have
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: to come here a lot.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll snail mail.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 10: Just fly in every two weeks or so. Is that cool? Yeah,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 10: you can cover that. As often as we.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: Can rope you in, we're up for it, so that
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: is up to you. But either way, thank you for
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: sitting in this week.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: You're very welcome.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 10: Thank you for leaving the house, Patrick.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 9: That's what I'm here for.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: I think everybody's falling asleep now.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think we should wrap this up. Otherwise, that
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 10: about does it. We will return next week. Same geek time,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 10: same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 11: With a purposeful grimace and a terrible sound, he pulls
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 11: the spinning high-tension wires down. Helpless people on subway trains
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 11: scream to God as he looks in on them. He
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 11: picks up a bus and he throws it back down
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 11: as he wades through the buildings toward the center of town. Oh, no,
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 11: they say he's got to go, go, go, Godzilla, yeah. Oh, no,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 11: they're going to Tokyo, go, go, Godzilla, yeah. Oh, no.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 11: Let's say he's got to go. Go, go, Godzilla. Yeah. Oh, no.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 11: Let's say he's got to go. Go, go, Godzilla. Yeah.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 11: Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. No, there's no Tokyo. Go, go, Godzilla!
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 11: History shows again and again how nature points up the
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 11: volume of man. Godzilla!
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 10: History shows again.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 11: And again how nature points up the molly of men.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 10: Godzilla! History shows again and again.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 11: How nature points up the molly of men. Godzilla! History
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 11: shows again and again how nature points up the molly
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 11: of men.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: Godzilla!
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 10: Damn lizard!
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: It does.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 10: That wasn't directed at you in anger.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: What was that?
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 10: If you want that, you can have it. Are you drunk?
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 10: See, they brought the bourbon.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 5: You're smart.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: Random. Oh, Lord.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 9: So if that guy's drunk, you think I can get
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 9: him drunk enough to go put on the head from Stargate?
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 10: Probably wouldn't take much. I think so very would, but
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 10: I'm not responsible for such activity.
• 1:53:02
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• 1:53:08
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• 1:53:14
  Speaker 9: Talk hard!