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O'Brien & Doug S5:E9 [January 13, 2022 Listener Suggestions #1] · O'Brien & Doug

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SPEAKER_00: Then he comes right back with another bootleg.
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SPEAKER_00: See both bootlegs go to the right.
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SPEAKER_00: You see another flag bootleg down here to the left.
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SPEAKER_00: Bootleg right.
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SPEAKER_00: And then coming right back with another bootleg.
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SPEAKER_02: Why don't you get down to the basement with your little thing?
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SPEAKER_05: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
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SPEAKER_12: I'm O'Brien.
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SPEAKER_12: I'm Ringo Doug.
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SPEAKER_05: You are Ringo.
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SPEAKER_05: You're the Ringo of our band.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm the Ringo of Carmen Crosby.
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SPEAKER_05: Yes.
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SPEAKER_05: Um Season five, episode nine.
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SPEAKER_05: Number nine.
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SPEAKER_04: Number nine.
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SPEAKER_04: Number nine.
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SPEAKER_04: We were just talking about the Beatles documentary.
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SPEAKER_04: I finally downloaded the first uh episode and uh was watching it.
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SPEAKER_04: It's very, very cool.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm excited to uh to finish the whole thing.
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SPEAKER_04: It's just I gotta find pieces of time here and there.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I said, you you gotta you gotta carve out a chunk of time to watch it because like the next one is like almost three hours.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And then the last one I think is two and a half.
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SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: See, and I don't have that kind of time.
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SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_04: Like I woke up early the other morning, I think it was it was either Sunday morning, might have been Sunday morning, and uh I woke up at like 4 30, quarter to five just because I do sometimes.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: And I just kind of put it on and was watching it.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: So I got through most of it.
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SPEAKER_02: But I did I I finally watched the new Ghostbusters Afterlife.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh, it was good, wasn't it?
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SPEAKER_04: So freaking good.
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SPEAKER_04: It was perfect.
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SPEAKER_04: It was perfect.
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SPEAKER_04: It was a perfect movie.
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SPEAKER_04: It was a yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: It was just campy enough to be like the first one.
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SPEAKER_04: Yep.
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SPEAKER_04: You know, I mean, there was like all this, you know, I mean, it was very campy.
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SPEAKER_02: And it was a basically the same plot.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: You know, there's a lot of similarities between it and the first one, but it's it's updated just enough to make it interesting and to carry those Ghostbusters fans.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I liked how they CGI'd um Harold Raymond into it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, I thought that was really cool.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh, did we just give a spoiler?
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SPEAKER_02: I've probably ever seen it by it.
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SPEAKER_02: I just I literally just watched it.
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SPEAKER_04: If you haven't seen it, go see it.
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SPEAKER_04: Because if you like the first movie, you're gonna love this movie.
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SPEAKER_02: So it was hilarious.
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SPEAKER_02: So funny.
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SPEAKER_02: Paul Rudd is Paul.
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SPEAKER_04: He was the perfect choice.
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SPEAKER_05: He was the perfect choice.
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SPEAKER_05: And that little kid was I thought he stole all the scenes.
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SPEAKER_05: He did.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, he's Paul Rudd.
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SPEAKER_05: No, no, not hit not Paul Rudd, the little kid.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, the the girl?
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SPEAKER_05: No, the Asian kid.
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SPEAKER_05: He stole all the scenes.
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SPEAKER_05: He had all the good lines.
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SPEAKER_05: He did it.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he was pretty funny.
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SPEAKER_05: He was perfect for that role, too.
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SPEAKER_04: I was really I laughed at the colour.
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SPEAKER_02: But did you but did you watch the whole thing through the credits?
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SPEAKER_04: Um maybe.
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SPEAKER_04: I don't remember what it was.
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SPEAKER_02: Because there was a a thing between Annie Potts and um Ernie Hudson, a little conversation.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh oh no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_02: Before that, there was there was Bill Murray and Sigourney Weaver.
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SPEAKER_02: They're apparently married.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh no, I didn't know.
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SPEAKER_02: And Sigourney, you remember the test he was giving the the students?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: She's giving it to him, and she keeps shocking him.
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SPEAKER_05: He's just like, oh, I wish I would have.
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SPEAKER_02: And then there's another one with Annie Potts talking to Ernie Hudson, and they go back to just before they go up into the skyscraper, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Where Harold Ramis is talking, and she gives him a something, something from the World 60, a World's Fair.
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SPEAKER_02: She gives him a coin.
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SPEAKER_11: Uh-huh.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I she get she got it back somehow.
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SPEAKER_02: Is this modern day potts and Ernie Hudson?
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SPEAKER_02: Ernie Hudson's like this big financier now.
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SPEAKER_02: He's he's got this global um business going on.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: But he he takes there's a foreshadowing to something else coming.
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SPEAKER_04: Like another movie?
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SPEAKER_02: Like another movie.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's awesome.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was really it was really cool.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm glad I watched it all the way through because I was like, maybe they're doing the whole Marvel, you know, foreshadowing thing, and they did.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: So I should have stayed and watched that.
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SPEAKER_04: I'll I'll buy that movie because I mean that's buy it.
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SPEAKER_02: You'll see it.
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SPEAKER_02: You'll see what I've got.
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SPEAKER_04: When that comes out, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's out now on Amazon, just so you know.
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SPEAKER_02: That's how it is.
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SPEAKER_02: That's how I watched it, yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Um, maybe I'll my wife did not go to see it.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh, so she would love it too.
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SPEAKER_04: So good.
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SPEAKER_04: Um so maybe we'll watch that at some point.
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SPEAKER_04: Um It made me completely forget about the Melissa McCarthy one.
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SPEAKER_02: There was a Mrs.
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SPEAKER_02: Melissa Current?
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SPEAKER_04: But I w I only watched like I only watched probably a half hour, 45 minutes of that one.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: And turned it off.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't even bother.
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SPEAKER_04: It was it was awful.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: And I like most of those actors that are that were in that.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, Chris Helmsworth is in it.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, Melissa McCarthy, she's hilarious.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, so I don't know.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_04: Anyway.
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SPEAKER_04: Um so the theme this week was we're gonna let the uh let the podcast listeners pick the subject that we talk about.
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SPEAKER_04: So we're gonna we are gonna do that.
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SPEAKER_04: Um we do have uh some suggestions from some podcast listeners.
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SPEAKER_04: Um but before we do that, we have to talk about NFL fantasy.
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SPEAKER_02: The season is over.
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SPEAKER_04: Our season is over in our league.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh so our league consisted of myself, you, Bob, Bob's son, uh Noah.
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SPEAKER_04: Noah, yeah, um, my sons, Eli and Jude, Josh and Shane.
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SPEAKER_04: Yep.
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SPEAKER_04: There's eight of us.
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SPEAKER_04: Eight of us, yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Um and for the past four seasons right three.
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SPEAKER_04: No, four, no, three.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: For the past three seasons, my oldest son, Jude, has won.
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SPEAKER_04: Right.
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SPEAKER_04: Um and two or three years, yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: He's basically unstoppable.
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SPEAKER_04: And and this season, he he had the he he has the best record.
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SPEAKER_02: He was in first place.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Pretty much the whole season.
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SPEAKER_04: Right.
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SPEAKER_04: Um But this year, um, his younger brother, and and my oldest is not gonna live this down.
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SPEAKER_04: His younger brother, Eli, beat him in the playoffs.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: So we we have a new champion.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he beat me in the he beat me in the uh last the last week of the season.
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SPEAKER_04: And I told you last week he was just beside himself.
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SPEAKER_02: So it didn't look like he was gonna win.
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SPEAKER_02: Nope.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, through the first and then the second half, and I'm like, what in the world is happening right now?
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: So I'm I'm texting him right now.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna have him come down here because we have to make a presentation.
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SPEAKER_04: Um Yeah, he and and he so I tell and I'll tell I'll tell you this before he comes down.
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SPEAKER_04: So I I texted my son, my son Jude, who usually wins, and I said, you know, Eli's never gonna shut up about this, right?
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SPEAKER_04: He says, Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_04: He says, It's okay though.
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SPEAKER_04: He says, I figured uh a comeback looks better than four in a row.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh right, that's uh that's pretty deep.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's pretty deep.
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SPEAKER_04: So he's he's he's planning next season to retake the crown.
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SPEAKER_02: To dominate, right?
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SPEAKER_04: To dominate.
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SPEAKER_02: There he is, the champion.
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SPEAKER_02: He is the champion, my friends.
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SPEAKER_04: How do you feel?
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SPEAKER_04: How do you feel about winning the league?
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SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm pretty honored to be given this opportunity.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, I want to thank my dad and uh his friend for letting me win.
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SPEAKER_12: We're letting you win.
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SPEAKER_01: We did not let you win.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay, so we have to make a presentation.
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SPEAKER_04: So this trophy, for one reason or another, has been here at the house.
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SPEAKER_04: Um I think since it was well, who did anybody else have this trophy ever?
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SPEAKER_02: Well, you and basically Jude.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, right?
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, because I won the first couple seasons.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh I don't think Bob's ever won.
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SPEAKER_04: Well, if the if anyone else has won, I kept the trophy.
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SPEAKER_04: I never gave the trophy.
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SPEAKER_02: You never you never fulfilled your duty to see.
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SPEAKER_02: But then again, I think Josh has the last place trophy and he's never likished it to anyone else.
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SPEAKER_04: So uh this trophy is the BMO Excellence Award for Excellence in our NFL Fantasy League.
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SPEAKER_04: Um and so I've I won the first, I don't know, one or two seasons.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: And then um I think uh I I think Jude's won ever since he's been in the league.
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SPEAKER_04: Right, I think you're right.
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SPEAKER_04: So it has it has stayed here.
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SPEAKER_04: Um oh it's there's a crack in it.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh look at that.
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SPEAKER_02: But you do.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
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SPEAKER_02: Why are you breaking our trophy?
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SPEAKER_04: We have to glue that or something.
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SPEAKER_04: Um I'm hesitant to give it to you because I know it probably will break even more in your in your in your room.
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SPEAKER_02: Now he'll just fix it.
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SPEAKER_04: Um make it better.
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SPEAKER_04: So so Eli won the NFL Fantasy League this year, and so I'm pres I present to you the BMO Excellence Award for Excellence.
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SPEAKER_12: Speech! Speech speech speech anything you want to say?
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SPEAKER_04: Hold on.
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SPEAKER_04: Because he's a hundred feet tall, I have to.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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SPEAKER_04: What do you want to say?
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SPEAKER_04: Say say something to your big brother who you finally beat.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
9:40
SPEAKER_11: We want to hear this.
9:41
SPEAKER_11: Take that, you nerd.
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SPEAKER_02: Well said, Well said.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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SPEAKER_04: Thank you, congratulations, you are dismissed.
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SPEAKER_04: Put that in a safe place.
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SPEAKER_04: Look, can you see where it's cracked on the leg?
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unknown: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah?
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SPEAKER_04: On the on his left leg, I think.
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SPEAKER_04: Your what?
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unknown: Your pre- my predecessors are horrible, right?
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SPEAKER_04: His predecessors.
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SPEAKER_04: You mean your predecessors?
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unknown: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
10:18
SPEAKER_02: We knew what you meant.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we knew what you meant.
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SPEAKER_04: I like that actually.
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SPEAKER_04: Predecessors.
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SPEAKER_04: Predecessors.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: So there.
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SPEAKER_04: That's some business we had to take care of.
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SPEAKER_02: Predecessors.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Which means they died before you.
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SPEAKER_04: Right.
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SPEAKER_04: Um.
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SPEAKER_04: So yeah, that'll be good.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he doesn't love himself.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm already looking forward to that.
10:39
SPEAKER_02: I'll I you know, I it's it's one of the things.
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SPEAKER_02: It makes football more fun for me.
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SPEAKER_02: It does.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, just just in a you know, we just we just play just for fun.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's no money involved.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's some leagues that are just it's big.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh, I know, I know, I know.
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SPEAKER_02: And I just I just like to do it for fun.
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SPEAKER_04: Jude did say, um, I don't know if you noticed this, but during um the game, uh, the games that were he had like two or three guys that were injured.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: That they like got injured in that game.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and they had to leave.
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SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah, it always that always hurts.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Literally.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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SPEAKER_04: So uh the theme this week is um podcast listener suggestions.
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SPEAKER_04: So we have a suggestion um from a listener named Bobby, Bobby Blanchard.
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SPEAKER_04: Bouncing Bob.
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SPEAKER_04: And uh it is for future podcasts all star all-star female rockers.
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SPEAKER_04: Now, you and I have not given any thought to this yet.
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SPEAKER_04: Best female guitarists, best female drummers, best female vocalists.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_04: So, I mean, we'll if we think about this for for a minute, I don't know a lot of female drummers.
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SPEAKER_04: Well, I know a few.
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SPEAKER_04: There are some.
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SPEAKER_04: Um and female vocalists, I think we've we've talked about that a little bit uh in the past.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Um, and best female guitarists.
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SPEAKER_04: So this would be interesting.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, what do you want to start with?
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SPEAKER_04: Uh let's start uh start with drummers because that seems like it would be it was low-hanging fruit.
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SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
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SPEAKER_04: I was gonna say that was because I can only think of a few um that stand out anyway or that have some.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, the first one that comes to my mind always is Sheely E.
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SPEAKER_04: Me too.
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SPEAKER_04: I was gonna say the same thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, she she played with Prince for years and she did solo and she's known for like where she she um plays a lot of Latin drums.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: She'll be up on the but if you've ever seen her play the drum set, like the kit.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, she's great.
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SPEAKER_02: She's amazing.
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SPEAKER_02: She's fantastic.
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SPEAKER_04: Yes, I agree.
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SPEAKER_02: Definitely.
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SPEAKER_04: So uh Sheely E would be the first one that comes to my mind.
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SPEAKER_04: Yep.
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SPEAKER_04: Um I know uh geez.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh who's the one that's the second one that comes to your mind?
12:48
SPEAKER_02: Uh I think her name is Cynthia Santana.
12:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh yes.
12:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I think I think her first name is Cynthia.
12:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you are right.
12:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
12:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: She is she used to play with Lenny Kravitz.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, she did.
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SPEAKER_04: Blackman.
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SPEAKER_04: Cynthia Blackman.
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SPEAKER_02: Blackman Santana.
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SPEAKER_04: Yes, yes, married to Carlos.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, I forgot about her.
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SPEAKER_04: She's awesome.
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SPEAKER_04: She is awesome.
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SPEAKER_04: She is awesome.
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SPEAKER_04: Um, what was the uh the the uh girl that played for Hole and then played with Oh Sam Malone.
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SPEAKER_04: Sam Malone Samantha Malone.
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SPEAKER_04: She's amazing, isn't it?
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SPEAKER_02: Well, she played with Motley Crue and Tommy Lee after it out for whatever.
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SPEAKER_04: Yep.
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SPEAKER_04: Who knows?
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SPEAKER_04: Um Samantha Malone.
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SPEAKER_04: Yep.
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SPEAKER_04: Um drummers, drummers, uh Roxy uh Patru Patrucki?
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SPEAKER_04: Patrucki from uh Vixen.
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SPEAKER_04: I don't know her name.
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SPEAKER_04: I think it's Roxy.
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SPEAKER_04: I I don't know her.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, I just I'm just naming off female drummers that I know.
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SPEAKER_04: Um who else?
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SPEAKER_02: Well, there was the drummer from the Donna's, uh Tori uh well they all went by Donna, like the Ramones.
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SPEAKER_04: Right.
13:49
SPEAKER_02: But she was Donna T.
13:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But her first name is Tori, and I can't think of it.
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SPEAKER_02: I think it's Branson.
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SPEAKER_04: And that she's the reason they broke up, actually.
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SPEAKER_04: Is she?
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SPEAKER_04: I think so, because she had some sort of degenerative disease in her back.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh so she couldn't play drums.
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SPEAKER_02: Kind of like a Mick Myers thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, kind of like that.
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SPEAKER_04: So I'm not sure how she's doing now, but I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere that uh she left the band, so they were like, well, we're not gonna be abandoned if we don't have her.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it could be.
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SPEAKER_04: Um Female drummers.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Cynthia Blackman, I forgot about.
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SPEAKER_04: She's she's great.
14:17
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she's great.
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SPEAKER_04: She's fantastic.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm Sheila E is still my number one.
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SPEAKER_02: Really?
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you think about it.
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SPEAKER_04: I think there are a lot.
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SPEAKER_02: There are there are a lot out there, but we, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: None come to those are the only ones that come to mind right now.
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SPEAKER_02: Because like we said, we didn't research this or anything like that.
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SPEAKER_02: We're just going to do that.
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SPEAKER_04: Which is a shame that we don't think of, you know, women rockers very very much.
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SPEAKER_04: Or women at least.
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SPEAKER_04: You know.
14:45
SPEAKER_04: What other female bands are out there?
14:47
SPEAKER_04: So what are what we name we named Sheila E, Cynthia Blackman, Samantha Malone, um Tori uh Tori from the Donna's.
14:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
14:57
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's gotta be more, man.
14:58
SPEAKER_04: Oh, um the uh well, I don't know the names, unfortunately.
15:04
SPEAKER_04: But the the drummers for the go-go's and for uh Oh yeah, go-go's and the bangles.
15:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
15:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
15:10
SPEAKER_04: Um I don't know.
15:11
SPEAKER_04: I would I don't know that I would consider them like the greatest drummers or anything like that.
15:15
SPEAKER_02: I would I mean they were they were high profile drummers because the band was high profile.
15:19
SPEAKER_04: And really, really good.
15:20
SPEAKER_02: But though unfortunately with those bands, I mean there was always somebody there was a front person out front.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:26
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: Like with the bang with the bangles, it was definitely Susanna Hoffs.
15:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
15:30
SPEAKER_02: And then like with uh the go-go's, it was you know President of Carlisle.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know.
15:34
SPEAKER_04: And they don't get drummers in general don't get as much recognition.
15:40
SPEAKER_04: No.
15:40
SPEAKER_04: Whether even whether they're female or or male.
15:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
15:43
SPEAKER_04: Um but there are drummers that there are male drummers that stand out because they um well I mean, Neil Peart, uh J uh John Bonham, Ringo.
15:56
SPEAKER_04: These Ringo, these are these are big personalities, and these are people that changed drumming or or made made like an impact on drumming.
16:08
SPEAKER_04: I am trying to think of a female who has done that.
16:13
SPEAKER_02: And I can't besides Chile or I think I think I mean there probably are of course there are, but I can't think of we haven't researched this.
16:24
SPEAKER_02: Right.
16:24
SPEAKER_02: We're just going off the tops of our heads and you know, if we put some you know actual thought and research into it, we we sure we I mean we could go back and find somebody, I'm sure, but no nobody's coming to you know to my head at the moment.
16:39
SPEAKER_04: Let me uh just just for giggles, um, I want to see what happens if I um Google that.
16:47
SPEAKER_04: Uh and maybe some names come up that we're gonna be like, oh, I never even thought of I never even thought of her.
16:54
SPEAKER_04: Um and I guarantee you I type in female and I get female organism.
17:02
SPEAKER_04: That's a little weird.
17:03
SPEAKER_04: It is a little weird.
17:04
SPEAKER_04: It was Wikipedia.
17:05
SPEAKER_04: List of female drummers.
17:07
SPEAKER_04: There we go.
17:08
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so a lot of these you would never know.
17:11
SPEAKER_04: We would never know.
17:12
SPEAKER_04: From bands like Seven Year Bitch, String Beans, Autolux.
17:15
SPEAKER_04: I'm not even gonna go there.
17:16
SPEAKER_02: Those bands I've never heard of.
17:18
SPEAKER_04: Right, uh Cindy Blackman, of course.
17:21
SPEAKER_10: Uh I'm just looking at uh oh Nandy Bushnell, who's this kid, remember that played with a yeah, yes, Nandy Bushnell is amazing.
17:32
SPEAKER_04: She's great, yeah.
17:33
SPEAKER_04: I love her.
17:34
SPEAKER_02: For what are what is she, 10?
17:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, something like that.
17:37
SPEAKER_04: Tori Castellano was from the case.
17:39
SPEAKER_02: That yeah, that was from the Donna's, yes.
17:42
SPEAKER_04: Karen Carpenter.
17:43
SPEAKER_02: How do we forget Karen Carpenter, baby?
17:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she was a great drummer.
17:47
SPEAKER_04: She was a great drummer.
17:49
SPEAKER_04: Um Caroline Korr from The Cores.
17:53
SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
17:55
SPEAKER_04: Um I'm just looking through these.
17:58
SPEAKER_04: Sheila E, of course.
18:00
SPEAKER_04: I'm just looking at the ones that maybe that stand out.
18:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
18:05
SPEAKER_04: Because some of these are from, you know, a lot of them are from bands you've never heard of, and it's interesting to me that they're they're listed.
18:13
SPEAKER_04: Uh Jen Ledger, who I actually follow on Instagram because she's amazing.
18:19
SPEAKER_04: She's with a band Skillet.
18:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
18:22
SPEAKER_04: I didn't know that.
18:23
SPEAKER_04: Um she's uh she's great.
18:26
SPEAKER_04: Samantha, oh, it's Samantha Maloney.
18:28
SPEAKER_04: Maloney, yeah.
18:28
SPEAKER_04: Maloney.
18:29
SPEAKER_04: We talked about her.
18:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
18:30
SPEAKER_04: Um, from The Iron Maidens, a woman named Lyndon McDonald.
18:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, I've heard of them.
18:35
SPEAKER_04: I have heard of them as well.
18:37
SPEAKER_04: I'm not uh I don't know much about her drumming or anything.
18:41
SPEAKER_04: Um Debbie Peterson is from uh the Bengals.
18:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
18:48
SPEAKER_04: Roxy Petrucci, I was right, from Vixen.
18:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I uh Gina Shock from the Go-Gos.
18:54
SPEAKER_02: Gina Shock, okay.
18:55
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
18:57
SPEAKER_04: Um Teresa Taylor from the Butthole Surfers.
19:00
SPEAKER_02: Oh, who was the drummer from the runaways?
19:03
SPEAKER_04: Oh, Meg White from the Whites.
19:05
SPEAKER_02: From the White Stripes.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, from the White Stripes, yeah.
19:08
SPEAKER_04: Uh Sandy West was from the Runaways.
19:10
SPEAKER_04: Sandy West.
19:11
SPEAKER_04: Sandy West.
19:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so that's I those are the names that stand out to me um for female drummers.
19:18
SPEAKER_04: I still am gonna go with uh, you know, even though Karen Carpenter was in the pocket, you know, I still am gonna go with Sheila E as like to me the the standout.
19:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, between her and uh Cindy Blackman, I wanted uh between between those.
19:34
SPEAKER_02: We got Cindy Blackman's got a nice uh jazz background too.
19:38
SPEAKER_04: So um if you're wondering who we're talking about, of course she plays for Santana now, I think.
19:43
SPEAKER_04: But at that video with Lenny Kravitz uh Are You Gonna Go My Way?
19:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she's playing the drums.
19:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, just in killing it.
19:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, killing it.
19:52
SPEAKER_04: Um let's move on to guitar players.
19:58
SPEAKER_04: Okay, female guitar players.
20:00
SPEAKER_04: Um there are a lot.
20:02
SPEAKER_02: There are a lot.
20:03
SPEAKER_02: Nancy Wilson.
20:04
SPEAKER_04: Nancy Wilson, yeah.
20:06
SPEAKER_04: She's a great guitar player.
20:07
SPEAKER_04: She is.
20:08
SPEAKER_04: Uh she was known mostly for rhythm guitar in art, but still, yeah.
20:13
SPEAKER_04: Still fantastic.
20:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
20:14
SPEAKER_04: Uh it depends on what kind of guitar player, because Joni Mitchell was an amazing acoustic guitar player.
20:23
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
20:24
SPEAKER_04: Um well who comes to mind is uh um Nina Nita Strauss.
20:32
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
20:32
SPEAKER_02: Plays with plays with uh Alice Cooper.
20:34
SPEAKER_04: Plays with Alice Cooper, and she also played with uh The Iron Maidens for a while.
20:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I think she's got a solo project right now.
20:40
SPEAKER_04: She does?
20:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:41
SPEAKER_04: Um but Nita Strauss is a shredder, they call him Shredder.
20:44
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, she's like she is a shredder.
20:46
SPEAKER_04: She's like Steve I and all those guys.
20:49
SPEAKER_04: Um Joan Jett, Orionthi.
20:51
SPEAKER_10: Oh, Joan Jett, yeah.
20:53
SPEAKER_04: Orionthi is an amazing guitar player.
20:55
SPEAKER_04: Shredder as well.
20:56
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
20:57
SPEAKER_04: Bonnie Raits with her slide guitar.
21:00
SPEAKER_04: Um who else?
21:07
SPEAKER_04: Whatever that is.
21:08
SPEAKER_04: Sorry.
21:09
SPEAKER_04: Um Susan Tedeski.
21:11
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, Susan Tedesky, yeah.
21:13
SPEAKER_04: Uh was is uh an amazing guitar player.
21:17
SPEAKER_04: Uh there are a lot that we're we're missing.
21:21
SPEAKER_04: Probably.
21:22
SPEAKER_02: Uh again, the guitar players from the go-go's, the bangles, or whoever that was.
21:27
SPEAKER_04: Vicky Peterson, I think, was from um was from the The Bangles.
21:32
SPEAKER_04: I think that was yeah, I'm pretty sure.
21:35
SPEAKER_04: If you go on Instagram and follow any guitar page, um you'll find just as many female guitar um prodigies as you will male.
21:54
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
21:55
SPEAKER_04: And it's it's amazing to me and frustrating to me.
22:01
SPEAKER_04: Uh that's the thing about those those uh Instagram uh pages where where it's like um all about or all guitar or or guitar agram or you know whatever.
22:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
22:13
SPEAKER_04: They'll have these people that are like they they'll have these kids doing these like intricate things and they're way better than I will ever be.
22:23
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but I mean that's it's not it's not about Oh I know, but I mean it's it uh it it at the same at the same time it inspires me, it makes me want to quit.
22:32
SPEAKER_03: No, I get that.
22:33
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
22:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
22:34
SPEAKER_04: Um but there's uh there's a what's her name?
22:38
SPEAKER_04: Uh I think she's from like Switzerland or Germany or something.
22:43
SPEAKER_04: Uh and I follow her on Instagram.
22:46
SPEAKER_04: She's an amazing guitar player.
22:47
SPEAKER_04: I can't think of her name right now, but that doesn't help at all in our list.
22:52
SPEAKER_04: Um who else?
22:56
SPEAKER_04: Female guitar players.
22:58
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean Oh uh Lita Ford.
23:01
SPEAKER_04: Yes, Lita Ford, who was in the runaways and and had a big uh quite a solo career.
23:06
SPEAKER_04: Quite a solo career, especially through the 80s.
23:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
23:09
SPEAKER_04: Um probably for I mean, I know we're forgetting Mother Maybelle Carter.
23:17
SPEAKER_04: She was known for blues, yeah.
23:19
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
23:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
23:20
SPEAKER_04: Um goodness.
23:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
23:30
SPEAKER_04: Um That's the thing.
23:36
SPEAKER_04: I know there's more.
23:37
SPEAKER_02: Of course there are, but again, we're not we're coming to the city.
23:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I know that uh cousin Larry's gonna come on and says, You forg I can't believe you forgot about this person and that person.
23:48
SPEAKER_02: But that's why that's why he's there.
23:51
SPEAKER_02: He has to monitor the monitor the podcast and make sure we're you know keep us in line.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
23:56
SPEAKER_04: Um Well, I think we can move on from guitar players if I if we can't think of any more.
24:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I can't think of anymore.
24:03
SPEAKER_04: Um Susan Tadeski, you know, I f you know, I'm glad I said her she's she's great.
24:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
24:09
SPEAKER_04: Um you did say Bonnie Raid.
24:13
SPEAKER_04: I did say Bonnie Raid, yeah.
24:14
SPEAKER_04: She's I don't know that there's any smoother slide guitar player out there, uh, especially female.
24:20
SPEAKER_04: Right.
24:21
SPEAKER_04: Um than Bonnie Raid.
24:23
SPEAKER_04: Derek Drux is, in my opinion, the best slide guitar player out there.
24:28
SPEAKER_04: But she's just smooth.
24:30
SPEAKER_04: She's she's awesome.
24:33
SPEAKER_04: She's a smooth operator.
24:38
SPEAKER_04: Female vocalist, now this one, this one uh I mean this could take forever.
24:46
SPEAKER_04: Um, because there are so many vocalists that I love.
24:51
SPEAKER_04: Female vocalists that I love.
24:53
SPEAKER_04: The first one.
24:54
SPEAKER_04: What's the first one that comes to mind for you?
24:56
SPEAKER_02: For okay, but but well, are we talking rock?
24:59
SPEAKER_04: Are we talking well that's the thing?
25:01
SPEAKER_04: I mean Are we just talking vocalists and well he did say all-star female rockers?
25:07
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so let's talk, let's let's keep it to rock.
25:10
SPEAKER_04: Because I would have put Sade in there.
25:12
SPEAKER_02: She's she's more like jazz fusion.
25:14
SPEAKER_02: Right, but it so we're still great.
25:16
SPEAKER_04: But we're talking about rock.
25:18
SPEAKER_04: So rockers?
25:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
25:19
SPEAKER_04: What's the first one that comes to your mind?
25:21
SPEAKER_02: Lizzie Hale.
25:22
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
25:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
25:24
SPEAKER_04: That's the first one.
25:25
SPEAKER_04: She friggin' uh her voice is just out of the She's the first one that comes to your mind?
25:31
SPEAKER_02: She was the first one that came to my mind.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: Oh okay.
25:34
SPEAKER_02: For rockers.
25:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
25:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:35
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's Joan Jett.
25:37
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
25:37
SPEAKER_04: There's, you know, um Do you consider Ann Wilson a rocker?
25:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, of course.
25:41
SPEAKER_02: They're a rock, yeah.
25:42
SPEAKER_02: Ann Wilson.
25:42
SPEAKER_02: I mean, she's a big thing.
25:43
SPEAKER_02: She would have been fantastic.
25:44
SPEAKER_04: She would have been number two for me.
25:46
SPEAKER_04: Pat Benatar would have been.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Pat Benatar, yes.
25:48
SPEAKER_02: Definitely a rocker.
25:48
SPEAKER_04: I would have put Ben Pat Benatar at as the my first choice.
25:52
SPEAKER_02: Again, Bonnie Raitt.
25:53
SPEAKER_04: Bonnie Raint.
25:54
SPEAKER_04: So, you know.
25:54
SPEAKER_02: Um Karen Carpenter.
25:58
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
25:59
SPEAKER_04: Is it rock though?
26:01
SPEAKER_04: Soft rock.
26:02
SPEAKER_04: Soft rock.
26:02
SPEAKER_04: That is true.
26:03
SPEAKER_04: Soft rock.
26:04
SPEAKER_04: You know.
26:04
SPEAKER_04: So Lizzie Hale, yeah.
26:06
SPEAKER_04: Just let me get that out of my mind.
26:07
SPEAKER_02: But as far as but as far as is rockers.
26:10
SPEAKER_02: Lizzie Hale's the top of my list.
26:12
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
26:12
SPEAKER_04: So.
26:13
SPEAKER_04: Um.
26:16
SPEAKER_04: Female vocal rockers.
26:21
SPEAKER_04: Uh, what about um?
26:25
SPEAKER_04: See, I like her, but I'm not sure I would say she's, you know, up there as as far as vocalist, but Shirley Manson.
26:34
SPEAKER_04: Oh, from garbage.
26:35
SPEAKER_04: From garbage, yeah.
26:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
26:37
SPEAKER_04: Um I I've always liked what they've done.
26:43
SPEAKER_04: There's a ton of them.
26:45
SPEAKER_04: Stevie Nicks.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh Steve, how do we forget Stevie Nicks?
26:48
SPEAKER_04: Janice Joplin.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: Janice Joplin.
26:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Janice Joplin.
26:52
SPEAKER_04: That's the thing.
26:53
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's you don't when you're trying to think of them.
26:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
26:57
SPEAKER_04: Um Tina Turner.
26:59
SPEAKER_04: Tina Turner.
27:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
27:02
SPEAKER_04: Uh Patty Smith I never liked.
27:05
SPEAKER_02: But she can sing.
27:06
SPEAKER_04: Oh well, yes.
27:08
SPEAKER_04: Not Patty Smythe.
27:09
SPEAKER_04: Patty Smith.
27:11
SPEAKER_04: The one that was uh Do you know who I mean?
27:14
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
27:15
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
27:15
SPEAKER_04: I can I can only take it.
27:16
SPEAKER_04: But she can still swing.
27:17
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
27:17
SPEAKER_04: Patty Smythe, I mean, the warrior.
27:21
SPEAKER_04: Uh Chrissy Hind.
27:22
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Chrissy Hind.
27:23
SPEAKER_04: Pretenders.
27:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:24
SPEAKER_02: Man, I didn't forget that.
27:26
SPEAKER_04: Um, I don't know, Grace Slick.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I would put Grace Slick on the shock.
27:31
SPEAKER_02: She's a rocker.
27:32
SPEAKER_02: She's a rocker.
27:32
SPEAKER_04: Or was.
27:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
27:33
SPEAKER_04: Uh we mentioned Leto Ford as a guitar player, but she's a singer too.
27:36
SPEAKER_04: She's a singer.
27:38
SPEAKER_04: I would not put Courtney Love as as the greatest rock vocalist, but she's But she's a rocker.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, true.
27:43
SPEAKER_02: I would give her that.
27:44
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
27:45
SPEAKER_04: Haley Williams from um who is that band?
27:52
SPEAKER_04: Uh Paramore.
27:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Paramore.
27:55
SPEAKER_04: Okay, I don't really know.
27:56
SPEAKER_04: That's a kind of a newer one.
27:57
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
27:57
SPEAKER_04: Kind of a newer one.
27:58
SPEAKER_04: Uh Annie Lennox.
27:59
SPEAKER_04: Oh, Annie Lennox, yeah.
28:01
SPEAKER_04: I put her into more pop, I guess.
28:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's more pop either.
28:03
SPEAKER_04: Amy Lee.
28:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh, from Evinescence.
28:06
SPEAKER_04: That's a voice and a half, man.
28:08
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
28:09
SPEAKER_04: Gwen Stefani.
28:10
SPEAKER_04: Gwen Stefani, yeah, man.
28:11
SPEAKER_04: Definitely.
28:12
SPEAKER_04: Um Linda Ronstadt.
28:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she she started as a rocker.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: Yep, she did.
28:19
SPEAKER_02: Um Ann Murray.
28:21
SPEAKER_02: I mean, she's definitely uh heavy metal.
28:26
SPEAKER_04: Canadian rock.
28:28
SPEAKER_04: Uh Dolores O'Rordan.
28:30
SPEAKER_04: Oh, from the Cranberries.
28:32
SPEAKER_04: Rest in peace.
28:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
28:33
SPEAKER_04: Um Melissa Etheridge.
28:35
SPEAKER_04: Melissa Etheridge, yeah.
28:36
SPEAKER_04: Oh, she can definitely sing.
28:38
SPEAKER_04: Um would you uh Aretha Franklin that would be R and B, right?
28:42
SPEAKER_04: She wouldn't be a rocker.
28:43
SPEAKER_02: She yeah, but as far as strictly vocalist, she would definitely write.
28:50
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
28:50
SPEAKER_04: She's the queen, man.
28:52
SPEAKER_04: Cheryl Crow?
28:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
28:53
SPEAKER_02: I'll give her that.
28:54
SPEAKER_04: Um Cher?
28:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:00
SPEAKER_04: Avril Levine.
29:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:03
SPEAKER_04: Avrilavine.
29:05
SPEAKER_04: I mean, that's just a that's just a short list of uh you know female rock vocalists.
29:14
SPEAKER_04: Who would you put in in your top five?
29:17
SPEAKER_04: I think we've probably done it.
29:18
SPEAKER_04: Top five?
29:18
SPEAKER_02: I think we've probably done this before, but I don't know about the top uh Lizzie Hale.
29:23
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
29:23
SPEAKER_02: Joan Jack.
29:26
SPEAKER_02: Um jeez, I don't know.
29:31
SPEAKER_02: Just rocking.
29:33
SPEAKER_04: Oh.
29:35
SPEAKER_04: I I don't know why this is playing.
29:37
SPEAKER_02: What the heck is happening?
29:38
SPEAKER_02: Where are we?
29:40
SPEAKER_04: I I I don't I I don't know why this is playing.
29:43
SPEAKER_04: That's interesting.
29:43
SPEAKER_02: Janice Job.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
29:46
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
29:46
SPEAKER_02: Um Janus.
29:56
SPEAKER_02: Oh god, what is it?
30:00
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Joe Janet.
30:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:02
SPEAKER_02: Um two more spots to go.
30:11
SPEAKER_04: Oh well Susan Tadeski is an amazing vocalist as well.
30:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but she's she's more blues.
30:16
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she's bluesy, yeah.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: That's why I did like Bonnie Ray or stuff like that.
30:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:21
SPEAKER_02: Um just straight rocking, um.
30:27
SPEAKER_02: It's a good question, man.
30:28
SPEAKER_02: I don't know who it I don't know.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: I don't know who I put.
30:32
SPEAKER_02: Or uh but those three definitely are my top that's my top three anyway, right there.
30:38
SPEAKER_04: Uh I would go um Pat Benatar.
30:41
SPEAKER_04: Ann Wilson.
30:44
SPEAKER_04: Um I want to put Lizzie Hale in there, uh, but I'm not sure.
30:49
SPEAKER_04: Uh I would I want to put um Amy Lee in there.
30:53
SPEAKER_04: Because that that voice that's you know from Evanescence was his amazing.
30:58
SPEAKER_04: Awesome.
30:58
SPEAKER_04: Um you know, I think I am gonna put Hay um uh Lizzie Hell.
31:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Lizzie Ann.
31:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
31:08
SPEAKER_04: Uh from Hailstorm.
31:10
SPEAKER_04: And yeah, I I I don't know.
31:14
SPEAKER_04: You know who I want to put in there?
31:16
SPEAKER_04: Uh but no, she's not rock.
31:17
SPEAKER_04: Never mind.
31:18
SPEAKER_04: I was gonna say Britney Howard from the Alabama Shakespeare.
31:20
SPEAKER_04: Have you ever heard her?
31:21
SPEAKER_04: No.
31:22
SPEAKER_04: Um that's more soul and and blues really than than rock, but she's pretty amazing.
31:28
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
31:29
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we would have a totally different list if it was like all-time female vocalist, you know, no matter genre.
31:35
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
31:35
SPEAKER_04: You know, we would, you know.
31:37
SPEAKER_04: I think I might put Stevie Nicks in there, only because of the uniqueness of her voice.
31:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she definitely know it's Stevie Nix.
31:47
SPEAKER_04: There was nobody else that sounded like Stevie Nicks.
31:49
SPEAKER_02: Still isn't.
31:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, still isn't.
31:50
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, I think yeah, I think Pat Badatar, Ann Wilson, um uh Amy Lee, Lizzie Hale, Stevie Nix.
31:59
SPEAKER_04: I think that's my that's probably my top five.
32:00
SPEAKER_04: And we're probably missing some.
32:02
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, this is just rock and roll.
32:03
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
32:03
SPEAKER_04: This is just rock and roll.
32:05
SPEAKER_04: Um, because I know that we're probably missing a ton of people.
32:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, again, this is cold, so yeah.
32:12
SPEAKER_04: So Bobby Blanchard, bouncing Bob, thank you for that suggestion.
32:15
SPEAKER_04: Uh I like that actually.
32:17
SPEAKER_04: That was good, yeah.
32:18
SPEAKER_04: That uh we were able to fulfill that, and maybe we do that again.
32:22
SPEAKER_04: Um I'll do it anytime, man.
32:25
SPEAKER_02: Anybody wants a suggestion?
32:27
SPEAKER_02: Just make a suggestion, we'll talk about it.
32:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and then you can contribute your like you know, Bob, you you suggested this, so so let's hear yours.
32:35
SPEAKER_04: Like who are your favorite, you your favorite female guitarist, your favorite female drummer, favorite female vocalist, rock vocalist, you know, female rockers.
32:43
SPEAKER_04: Uh love to hear it.
32:45
SPEAKER_04: Uh leave it on the comments and uh and everybody will everybody can contribute.
32:49
SPEAKER_04: So that'd be kind of cool.
32:51
SPEAKER_04: So there's that.
32:53
SPEAKER_04: So let's see.
32:54
SPEAKER_04: Uh is it time for the Comedy Crossing song of the week?
32:57
SPEAKER_04: Let me check my watch.
33:01
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
33:01
SPEAKER_04: Yes, all right.
33:03
SPEAKER_04: Uh so I believe we did You can fly.
33:08
SPEAKER_04: We did Can You Touch the Sky?
33:10
SPEAKER_04: I almost feel like we did a version of this live.
33:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we did.
33:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh because I don't think we did the whole song because I don't think we could remember the whole song.
33:17
SPEAKER_04: Because did I not find the lyric sheet?
33:19
SPEAKER_04: No, maybe.
33:20
SPEAKER_04: I don't remember.
33:21
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, maybe you're right.
33:22
SPEAKER_04: Maybe we're just messing around.
33:23
SPEAKER_04: But we wrote a song uh uh that was well it's called NGS.
33:31
SPEAKER_04: Um and it's basically about being put in the friend zone.
33:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:36
SPEAKER_04: Nice guy syndrome.
33:37
SPEAKER_02: It was it was the friend zone before there was a friend zone.
33:39
SPEAKER_04: Right.
33:39
SPEAKER_04: So it was called Nice Guy Syndrome NGS.
33:44
SPEAKER_04: And once again recorded on our four track, but we had uh let's see, I'm not sure who was all in on the recording.
33:51
SPEAKER_04: I think Nate was there.
33:52
SPEAKER_02: Well, the three of us, you, me, and Nate.
33:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
33:54
SPEAKER_02: I think that might have been it.
33:55
SPEAKER_02: Was that it?
33:56
SPEAKER_04: I think so.
33:56
SPEAKER_04: Uh and we were just this is just a goofy, goofy song.
34:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
34:00
SPEAKER_04: Um Tongue in cheek.
34:03
SPEAKER_04: Tongue in cheek.
34:04
SPEAKER_04: And uh once again poorly recorded because we didn't know what we were doing, but that's okay.
34:08
SPEAKER_04: Still don't.
34:09
SPEAKER_04: Uh still don't.
34:11
SPEAKER_04: So I I think it kind of speaks for itself.
34:15
unknown: Yeah.
34:15
SPEAKER_04: So I think we just play it and then uh we could talk about it after.
34:19
SPEAKER_04: So this is the Comic Crossing song of the week.
34:22
SPEAKER_04: It is NGS Nice Guy Syndrome.
34:29
SPEAKER_02: Is that what it looks like?
35:41
SPEAKER_09: You got a nice sky.
35:54
SPEAKER_09: I can't help it.
35:56
SPEAKER_09: It's much more.
35:59
SPEAKER_09: I can't help it.
36:01
SPEAKER_09: I can't think of anything.
36:04
SPEAKER_09: I wish I had a time, every time.
36:47
SPEAKER_09: I got it.
36:54
SPEAKER_09: You got it, guys.
37:04
SPEAKER_07: This is fun.
37:06
SPEAKER_11: Any boys?
37:07
SPEAKER_11: Uh-huh.
37:08
SPEAKER_04: Actually this will be recorded over because I'll put the guitar still here.
37:14
SPEAKER_11: So then why are we bothering?
37:16
SPEAKER_11: Any day?
38:03
SPEAKER_04: You've got nice guys.
38:06
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so I would like to point out the Yeah, parts were done like that on purpose.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:14
SPEAKER_02: Don't take anything in the song as serious because we were really just goofing off when we just wanted to record it just for the sake of recording it.
38:23
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
38:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:25
SPEAKER_04: No.
38:26
SPEAKER_04: No.
38:28
SPEAKER_04: It was uh it was a lot of fun too.
38:30
SPEAKER_04: And we have to, it's like we write all these, you know, philosophical or romantic songs, or we were, you know, every once in a while you gotta throw in one in there that is just our our personalities.
38:43
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
38:43
SPEAKER_04: You know, which is just not to be taken seriously.
38:46
SPEAKER_04: Never taken seriously.
38:47
SPEAKER_04: So, and that's one of them.
38:49
SPEAKER_04: Um, I mean, geez, we got let's see, we have Don't Shake My Hand, we have The Bachelor's Anthem, we have NGS.
38:55
SPEAKER_04: There was a Jedi Jewelers Jedi Jewelers, which I have to find because I know I have it.
38:59
SPEAKER_04: I actually have the writing session on it.
39:01
SPEAKER_02: Well, there's a there's a recording of it somewhere.
39:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but it's the writing session.
39:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because when we were writing it, we said, well, we need to record this.
39:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
39:08
SPEAKER_04: So we sat down and just recorded it onto a cassette.
39:12
SPEAKER_04: So and that's why the sound is so uh poor because that was I found it on a an old cassette, and and the tape in a cassette does not hold its, you know, yeah, very for very long.
39:25
SPEAKER_04: So anyway, that is NGS, nice guy syndrome common crossing song of the week.
39:33
SPEAKER_03: Fantastic.
39:34
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39:38
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SPEAKER_12: That explains it.
42:07
SPEAKER_04: I'm ready.
42:08
SPEAKER_04: I have one.
42:09
SPEAKER_04: Alright.
42:12
SPEAKER_02: Say the magic words there, Bebo.
42:15
SPEAKER_02: Let the guessing begin.
42:16
SPEAKER_02: Yes! Solo or man?
42:20
SPEAKER_02: A solo.
42:21
SPEAKER_02: A man or a woman?
42:22
SPEAKER_04: Man.
42:22
SPEAKER_02: Man.
42:25
SPEAKER_02: Jim Crochet.
42:27
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
42:29
SPEAKER_04: Just on your mind?
42:31
SPEAKER_02: No, I just just a random.
42:34
SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
42:34
SPEAKER_02: So uh I want a genre.
42:37
SPEAKER_05: Uh rock?
42:44
SPEAKER_02: No, are you asking me or telling me?
42:46
SPEAKER_02: No, I rock.
42:48
SPEAKER_02: Rock.
42:49
SPEAKER_02: So he's not really a rocker, though.
42:51
SPEAKER_04: Um there's hesitancy in the yeah, there is hesitancy, but I'm I'm sticking with rock.
42:57
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
42:57
SPEAKER_02: Uh height of popularity.
43:01
SPEAKER_04: The 80s.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: The 80s.
43:03
SPEAKER_02: Everybody's favorite.
43:06
SPEAKER_02: Um give me some more clues there.
43:15
SPEAKER_04: Um well, if it's the clues that I give you, you're gonna you're gonna get them.
43:23
SPEAKER_04: Isn't that the point?
43:25
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but I want to keep it going a little bit, you know?
43:28
SPEAKER_04: Uh let's see.
43:30
SPEAKER_04: Sounds like he started with one name.
43:36
SPEAKER_04: Then he had another name.
43:38
SPEAKER_02: Falco.
43:40
SPEAKER_02: I missed that guy.
43:42
SPEAKER_04: Me too.
43:42
SPEAKER_04: Almadales, Almade.
43:47
SPEAKER_02: Well, he had that uh, what was the other song?
43:48
SPEAKER_02: He had uh I don't remember another song.
43:52
SPEAKER_02: Something uh from Falco.
43:54
SPEAKER_03: Uh oh.
43:56
SPEAKER_02: Uh what was that song?
44:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you had a guy, you had another one.
44:03
SPEAKER_02: Did he?
44:03
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
44:04
SPEAKER_04: I thought he was a one-hit wonder.
44:05
SPEAKER_02: No, he had the other side.
44:06
SPEAKER_02: He had another one.
44:09
SPEAKER_02: It was all in German.
44:11
SPEAKER_04: Oh I oh.
44:18
SPEAKER_04: Wait, are you thinking of uh Falco?
44:22
SPEAKER_04: It is Falco?
44:22
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
44:23
SPEAKER_02: That's Falco.
44:32
SPEAKER_04: Well, I have He's got a few songs.
44:36
SPEAKER_04: Oh, is it Vienna Calling?
44:37
SPEAKER_02: Vienna Calling, yes, that's the one.
44:39
SPEAKER_02: Hold on.
44:40
SPEAKER_04: Oh.
44:41
SPEAKER_04: Not that this has anything to do with our wall of tangent.
44:43
SPEAKER_04: I know, but this is fun.
44:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
44:44
SPEAKER_02: This is a nice little uh segue.
44:46
SPEAKER_04: Right.
44:47
SPEAKER_02: Or no, not a tangent.
44:48
SPEAKER_02: This is a tangent.
44:49
SPEAKER_04: A tangent, yes.
44:50
SPEAKER_04: We do that a lot, actually.
44:51
SPEAKER_02: Well, we're good at tangents.
44:52
SPEAKER_04: Yes, we are.
44:53
SPEAKER_02: We should be mathematicians.
44:56
SPEAKER_02: Geometrists.
44:57
SPEAKER_04: So everybody knows the Rock Meyama Dales.
45:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't think as many people know this.
45:02
SPEAKER_02: I like this song better, actually.
45:09
SPEAKER_05: Now I remember it.
45:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
45:11
SPEAKER_05: It's actually a really good song.
45:33
SPEAKER_09: Talking about stars.
45:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so like that uh who's that girl that did the 99 Lough balloons?
45:46
SPEAKER_04: Naina.
45:46
SPEAKER_02: Nana, yeah.
45:49
SPEAKER_05: She did an English version of it.
45:50
SPEAKER_05: The hello.
45:51
SPEAKER_05: Hello.
45:51
SPEAKER_05: Alright, I remember that.
45:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
45:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a that I like I actually like that song better than the Rock Me Amadeus song.
45:58
SPEAKER_04: Did you know that he did a version of um I didn't know I did not know that he did a version of this.
46:25
SPEAKER_02: It's almost like exact.
46:30
SPEAKER_02: I mean there's some subtle differences.
46:32
SPEAKER_02: Of course.
46:38
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
46:39
SPEAKER_04: That would be different.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's all different, yeah.
46:42
SPEAKER_02: I wonder if that guy's still doing.
46:45
SPEAKER_04: Well, let's find out, because then you know that's what we're here for.
46:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
46:48
SPEAKER_02: Is uh is Falko dude still doing stuff?
46:51
SPEAKER_04: Uh I I don't know.
46:52
SPEAKER_04: Uh let me see if he's even alive.
46:56
SPEAKER_04: I'm just going to Google him.
46:59
SPEAKER_04: He died.
47:00
SPEAKER_04: Oh, he died?
47:01
SPEAKER_04: He died in 1998.
47:03
SPEAKER_04: Really?
47:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
47:05
SPEAKER_04: Uh Johann Hans Holzel.
47:10
SPEAKER_04: Also known as Velco.
47:12
SPEAKER_04: Um he died of severe injuries received on in February of 1998, 13 days before his 41st birthday, when his Mitsubishi Pajero collided with a bus on the road linking the towns of Via, Montelano, and Porto Plata in the Dominican Republic.
47:32
SPEAKER_04: At the time of his death, he was planning a comeback.
47:36
SPEAKER_04: Uh which was successful with a posthumous released album Out of the Dark Into the Light.
47:43
SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
47:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I did not know that.
47:45
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, so now that we're talking we've talked about Falco, let's try and uh guess who uh our Wall of Tunes.
47:52
SPEAKER_02: This tangent brought to you by Doug.
47:55
SPEAKER_02: Um we don't have a sponsor for we should get a sponsor for our tangents.
48:00
SPEAKER_02: Anyone would like to sponsor our tangents, uh just let us know.
48:03
SPEAKER_02: Oh, maybe Stephen Hawking.
48:07
SPEAKER_02: He's a mathematician.
48:08
SPEAKER_02: Right.
48:08
SPEAKER_02: Scientist.
48:09
SPEAKER_02: Right.
48:10
SPEAKER_02: Or was, I should say.
48:13
SPEAKER_02: Um, okay.
48:15
SPEAKER_02: Um so it's a solo rocker from the 80s.
48:19
SPEAKER_04: It's a solo rocker from the 80s.
48:21
SPEAKER_02: Went by one name.
48:22
SPEAKER_04: Went by one name, and then well, not one name, but he went by a name, and then John Cougar Mellon Camp?
48:29
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
48:32
SPEAKER_04: I was gonna say, I was gonna use words like Heartland, uh FarmAid, uh, you know, because uh well let me show you the album that I that I picked because I think this is an underrated album.
48:47
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
48:48
SPEAKER_04: Uh Lonesome Jubilee.
48:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, that was a good album.
48:53
SPEAKER_02: Um, because as that's the one we got cherry bombing and stuff on.
48:57
SPEAKER_04: Let me do this here, because I I got that queued up actually.
49:00
SPEAKER_04: Um this had this album had uh one, two, three, four singles released from it.
49:14
SPEAKER_04: Um this was probably the most popular.
49:18
SPEAKER_08: I lived on good death.
49:26
SPEAKER_04: Now, this was the follow-up to Scarecrow.
49:29
SPEAKER_02: Right.
49:29
SPEAKER_02: Scarecrow is my favorite.
49:31
SPEAKER_02: Scarecrow was huge for him.
49:33
SPEAKER_02: That was a that's one of my that's probably one of my favorites.
49:35
SPEAKER_04: Scarecrow, of course, had Small Town Um Blood on the Um Rain on the Scarecrow.
49:41
SPEAKER_02: Rain on the Scarecrow.
49:42
SPEAKER_04: Um uh Blood on the Plow.
49:44
SPEAKER_04: I think of I think of the I like a lot of his album cuts.
49:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
49:48
SPEAKER_04: Uh I like the singles too, but the the album cuts were the best for me.
50:04
SPEAKER_04: Such a un like uh like I said, an underrated album.
50:08
SPEAKER_04: Um what else was on Scarecrow?
50:10
SPEAKER_04: Um Justice and Independence, which was uh uh uh an album cut, but I love that song.
50:16
SPEAKER_04: Um shoot.
50:20
SPEAKER_04: Lonely all night.
50:21
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
50:22
SPEAKER_02: It's a lonely old night.
50:24
SPEAKER_02: Something was Rumble Seed on that one?
50:27
SPEAKER_04: Uh yes, Rumble Seed was on that one.
50:30
SPEAKER_04: Um this is another one from this album right here, after this uh ad place.
50:38
SPEAKER_04: What I what I love about this uh album is and actually John Mouncamp is his songs are about real people.
50:45
SPEAKER_04: Like real life.
50:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know.
50:49
SPEAKER_04: This was the first single, I think, from this album.
50:52
SPEAKER_04: Paper and fire.
51:00
SPEAKER_04: Kenny Aronoff.
51:03
SPEAKER_04: Of course, man.
51:05
SPEAKER_04: Lisa Germano on fiddle.
51:12
SPEAKER_08: She had a dream, boy was good on So she just had a dream with much desire.
51:24
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, uh when she got too close to her expectations!
51:37
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so you know that song.
51:38
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
51:39
SPEAKER_04: And there was there were two more singles, I think, from this album, and I'll just play a piece of of them because I want to play one or one or two of the of the album cuts because, or at least a piece of the album cuts, because um this was another single.
52:07
SPEAKER_04: But think about the time that this came out.
52:10
SPEAKER_04: This was 1987.
52:16
SPEAKER_04: And was there anybody else putting a fiddle on pop radio?
52:21
SPEAKER_04: No.
52:22
SPEAKER_04: Um or an accordion, you know?
52:25
SPEAKER_04: He was pretty much it.
52:26
SPEAKER_04: Scream it out to and he and he made it work.
52:29
SPEAKER_02: Well, he made he made Americana cool.
52:32
SPEAKER_04: And that's that's a good good way to put it because he was Americana before we had Americana.
52:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
52:37
SPEAKER_04: Um so that was check it out, and then I don't know if you remember this one.
52:41
SPEAKER_04: I don't though I don't know that this was as big a hit because I think it came later.
52:47
SPEAKER_04: Um it's not even coming up in the list here.
52:54
SPEAKER_04: But here it is.
53:04
SPEAKER_04: Vaguely.
53:06
SPEAKER_04: It's called Rudy Toot Toot.
53:10
SPEAKER_02: I know I I remember hearing the song, but I don't I guess I don't uh I don't recall.
53:17
SPEAKER_02: Um sorry, stand it here, I don't recall.
53:48
SPEAKER_04: So anyway, that was the that was the last actually I don't know what order they came out, but that was one of the singles from this album.
53:55
SPEAKER_04: Again, the album is the Lonesome Jubilee, the follow-up to his Scarecrow album.
53:59
SPEAKER_04: But there are songs on here that hit me pretty hard.
54:03
SPEAKER_04: Uh and I'll and you'll Did you call a cop?
54:08
SPEAKER_04: Uh you'll see, you'll you'll you'll understand why I think he just wrote about real people.
54:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think that was his I mean that's I think that's why people when you know when they're talking about rockers and things like this, he's kinda pushed to the side.
54:28
SPEAKER_02: He is.
54:29
SPEAKER_02: I mean he's not because he's not flashy.
54:31
SPEAKER_02: Right.
54:32
SPEAKER_02: He's not he's just he's he's solid and he talks about real things.
54:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
54:37
SPEAKER_04: And I mean he's one he was one of the the creators of Farmade.
54:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:41
SPEAKER_04: You know, with Neil Young and uh Willie Nelson.
54:45
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
54:45
SPEAKER_04: Um and still to this day I think carries on that.
54:48
SPEAKER_04: And he's uh he's a painter as well.
54:49
SPEAKER_04: He's an artist.
54:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, yeah.
54:51
SPEAKER_02: Um and I guess he's he's he's kind of an intense guy.
54:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he is intense.
54:55
SPEAKER_04: You know, just very like you know, oh you know, kind of one of those kind of guys.
55:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:00
SPEAKER_02: Sammy Hagar Because Kenny Arnoff uh, you know, was his drummer and he he talks about, you know, you know, touring with and he was just very sometimes he was very cool, and sometimes he was just uh he was just insane.
55:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:13
SPEAKER_04: You know, he was just so rigid and then you know Sammy Hagar has a TV show or had a TV show, I don't know if it's still going on, uh on Access TV, the channel Access TV, uh called Rock and Roll Road Trip, where he would where he would go around everywhere and and and talk to famous people and and uh check in with them and and jam with them and and things like that.
55:32
SPEAKER_04: And he he did uh uh an episode with John Mellencamp.
55:35
SPEAKER_04: Uh who incidentally m one of the clues was he started with one name.
55:39
SPEAKER_04: So he was Johnny Cougar or John John Cougar.
55:42
SPEAKER_04: And then when uh Scarecrow came out, right?
55:45
SPEAKER_04: He was John Cougar Mellencamp.
55:49
SPEAKER_04: John Mellencamp, right.
55:51
SPEAKER_04: Um so uh and and Sammy interviewed him and he doesn't it's like he doesn't give a crap about any you know what you think of him.
56:00
SPEAKER_02: No, he doesn't.
56:01
SPEAKER_02: That's why that's what I'm saying.
56:02
SPEAKER_02: That's why he's I think that's why he's I uh he's kind of pushed to the side and left out of the conversation because he he just doesn't care.
56:09
SPEAKER_04: Right.
56:09
SPEAKER_02: You know, he's just gonna make what he's gonna make the kind of music he wants to do.
56:12
SPEAKER_02: He's a true artist.
56:13
SPEAKER_02: I mean I would.
56:14
SPEAKER_04: So this one here, I just uh I I wish I could say what it is about this song that gets me.
56:21
SPEAKER_04: Um but there's a couple songs like this on the album.
56:28
SPEAKER_04: I'm not exactly sure why why it jumped to the middle of the song.
56:32
SPEAKER_04: This is called Empty Hands.
56:38
SPEAKER_08: Shadows of the host, you know, it's a good idea.
58:20
SPEAKER_04: Too many people with nothing planned.
58:22
SPEAKER_04: There's too many people with empty hands.
58:27
SPEAKER_04: Too many.
58:28
SPEAKER_04: Too many people that are hungry.
58:32
SPEAKER_04: And I mean, even some of the songs that were like song titles.
58:40
SPEAKER_10: Uh what did I do with the CD?
58:43
SPEAKER_06: Oh, get it.
58:45
SPEAKER_04: Some of the song titles.
58:47
SPEAKER_04: Hard times for an honest man.
58:51
SPEAKER_04: Um oh here's another one.
58:53
SPEAKER_04: I don't want to go too deep into this, although I already have.
58:57
SPEAKER_04: Um We the People.
58:59
SPEAKER_04: We Are the People.
59:00
SPEAKER_04: Have you ever heard that song?
59:02
SPEAKER_02: Probably, I don't know, I don't remember it.
59:04
SPEAKER_04: We are the People.
59:05
SPEAKER_04: That's another one that um that hit me pretty uh pretty hard.
59:18
SPEAKER_04: But you're right, he was Americana before Americana was a thing.
59:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, he's socially conscious without being um pretentious about it.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_04: And it's effective.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_04: Um so I I'll stop there because um this is uh I think a highly underrated album.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_04: Um Lonesome James.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_04: I agree.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_02: Uh he had I mean he I mean he had his pop phase like Jack and Diane and you know, yeah, and he didn't go away.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_04: I mean No, he's still around.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_04: He had in the nineties, he had uh like um there was uh I can't remember the um Key West Intermezzo uh where he had a bunch of songs where that had like drum machines and stuff like that.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_04: But it was it was experimenting and it was him being an artist and uh it was still great.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_04: There was it was great songwriters.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I like his voice.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_02: Uh that's what I really think about.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_04: See, I I wasn't crazy about, even though it was very popular, but you know, his John Cougar phase where Hurt So Good Sood and things like that.
1:01:07
SPEAKER_04: I wasn't crazy about that uh phase.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_04: But when he got a little older and went into this, Lonesome Jubilee and um just writing well, obviously Scarecrow, but Lonesome Jubilee um and whatever was after this, um uh I can't even remember his discography, but it just seemed more mature.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah and uh really, really good.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_02: Nice, very solid.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_04: I am a fan uh of John Mellencamp for sure.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_04: So there you go.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_04: That's the album of the week from the uh Wall of Tunes, John Cougar Mellencamp at the time.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_02: Or John Cougar or John Mellencamp, whatever you want to call it.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_02: Just don't call him late for dinner.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, right.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_04: This album, if you're looking for it, is under John Cougar Mellencamp, and it is the Lonesome Jubilee from 1987.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_04: Uh good, good stuff.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_04: There we go.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_04: Gr season five, episode nine, is in the book.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_02: It is.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I just saw this thing on uh came up.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh they they finally released how Betty White died.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_02: Oh stroke.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_04: She had a stroke.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh says according to the uh death certificate, she had a stroke six days before she passed.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_04: Oh wow.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_04: Six days, huh?
1:02:25
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_02: So there's that.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_04: And, you know, her last word, because they reported that.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_04: Her her last word was I can't remember his name, but she said her husband's name, who had passed, you know, like years before.
1:02:38
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, I was gonna say he passed a long time ago.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so she's obviously finally with her.
1:02:42
SPEAKER_04: Let's talk about that for a second.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_04: I know we're uh running a little long, but so we lost Betty White, uh, which we actually featured a little bit of her on the podcast last week.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_04: Uh the week before.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_04: Uh last week.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_04: I think it was last week.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_04: Uh John Madden.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_04: John Madden.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_04: Right, which was which was big.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_04: Um who else?
1:03:02
SPEAKER_04: We uh we lost uh Sidney Portier.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_04: We lost we just lost Bob Sagitt, Bob Sagitt, yeah.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_04: Which was crazy.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_04: Um I'd be interested to hear that cause a death because he Yeah, they said there was no foul play.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_02: And no drugs.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_02: And it was uh it was in a hotel room.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and there was no drugs or anything like that.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_04: So and he was I think it was in his sleep because he died of that.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_04: I didn't read Um Who else?
1:03:25
SPEAKER_04: Oh uh Peter Bogdanovich, who was a big time director who directed the Tom Petty documentary, Running Down a Dream.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_04: Um there was somebody else.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_02: I mentioned it in the thread.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:03:40
SPEAKER_02: It was Betty White.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it was Bob Sagitt.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_04: No, no, it wasn't Bob Sagitt, though.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_04: It was uh because we were talking about threes.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_02: No, it was Bob Sagitt.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_02: Which was I said Betty White, Madden and Bob Sagitt.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_02: And then you said Sydney Pointy.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, it just passed.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_02: Over the weekend.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_04: Um there was somebody else that had just passed as well.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_04: Um I can't remember what this is kind of a morbid conversation, but still.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_02: Um it is the end of the podcast.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_02: It is the end of the podcast.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_04: Um it's just crazy that we're losing all these people um kind of at the same time.
1:04:29
SPEAKER_04: But yeah.
1:04:29
SPEAKER_04: So rest in peace to all those uh people and we've enjoyed your contribution to the world, right?
1:04:35
SPEAKER_04: Because I mean these like Sidney Bournier was uh a huge actor.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_04: Um and uh so yeah.
1:04:45
SPEAKER_04: Uh rest in peace.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_04: And uh hopefully we don't lose any more.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_04: We probably will.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_04: It happens every year.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, it happens all the time.
1:04:53
SPEAKER_02: It is.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_02: Uh just you know, I mean people die.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_04: But you know, it's like when you die before your time, which which you never you never know.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_04: No, no, that's true.
1:05:04
SPEAKER_04: But I'm talking Bob Sagan, who's sixty five.
1:05:07
SPEAKER_04: You know, um but you never know when your time is.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_04: So all right.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_02: That's right, you know, you know, just you know, you just gotta live life to the fullest as best you can for the time you're given.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_04: We do know when our time is, though, and it's now.
1:05:21
SPEAKER_04: So we have to uh we have to end the podcast uh for for the week.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_04: So that's season five, episode nine.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_04: And uh we'll be back at you next week with uh and and if you have suggestions for what we can talk about, you can uh you know, by all means submit those.
1:05:43
SPEAKER_02: We'll we'll we'll we'll we'll we'll we'll figure it out telepathically.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_04: There you go.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say, if not, we will I'll do a I'll do a mind meld with all of you, and then uh I'll figure I'll read your thoughts from afar.
1:05:55
SPEAKER_04: Because we will figure something out to talk about.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_02: Shane, you should be ashamed of yourself.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_12: Don't think about that.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_12: All right, that's yo, silly head! That's it.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_12: Uh I'm O'Brien.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_12: Um Doug.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_12: Bye, everybody.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_12: God bye.
1:06:15
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1:06:38
SPEAKER_00: That's great.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's at some point you know you just gotta let it go.