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What is feminism really? | HBR Talk 313 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk three thirteen. What is feminism really?
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  I'm your host Hannah Wullan here with Nonsense Annilator, Lauren Brooks and the Personification
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  of perceptivity Mike Stevenson. And tonight, we've got kind of a mixed bag.
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  We're probably gonna finish our article on early twentieth century female supremacy. We
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  might not. It's possible that, you know, with a as conversational as
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  we are, we might not get through the whole thing. But if we
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  do, we've got some other things to look at, and if not,
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  we'll we'll start the next stuff next week. It'll be at least another week
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  before we get back to the timeline, possibly too, because I might read
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  you one of my articles just sort of as a rundown of what we're going
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  to see in the timeline. But you can risk onto yourself. No,
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  I'm just gonna we're going to respond to the information because a lot of my
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  articles are pretty dry, and it's because well, actually I don't know if
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  I can read read it because the blog's down. I'll let to look and
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  see if there's a uh, well, yeah, there is, there is
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  an archive of it, even if there's not an archive on archive dot org
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  or or archive dot I s I published it on Breaking the Glasses before I
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  published it on the HBB blog, So there you go. But before we
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  on when it's going to be fixed, So it's not the provoked thoughts,
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  at least not to our knowledge. It appears to be technical difficulties of the
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  boomer kind, Like basically a bunch of stuff is outdated and needs to be
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  updated and shit. So there you go. But in any case, we'll
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  get on with it. So we've been we've been reading this article and and
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  I up up to this point, and I point out, you know,
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  this woman has been highly snooty about men and uh, quite condemning really,
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  but in the meantime, you know, she she talks about women like women
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  are something particularly special in terms of capabilities, and you know, moral superior
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  superiority. The old line, uh, men, men are physically stronger,
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  women are morally superior, which women have worked really hard to debunk during the
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  last fifty years. Not on purpose, but they still did work pretty hard
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  to debunk that in their their advocacy for things like baby killing and promiscuous sex
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  and being able to abandon your husband and still take his money and the family
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  property and keep his kids away from him, and laying about you know,
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  criminal allegations and stuff like that. Like, clearly, women are not in
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  any way morally superior to men. Every manner of corruption that women accuse men
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  of women are just as guilty. So so there you go. And the
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  last thing we read that this woman said real quick before I go, and
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  just make sure you guys are in the in the live stream in discord,
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  right, yes, okay, just double checking because I'm going to start moving
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  the screen up here to where we were last week. The last thing that
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  we love dad last week was her comment, A man's brain is only half
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  a brain, and we are the other half, the half of and the
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  half of anything is not worth the whole. A woman has a power that
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  a man has not, and a man has a power that a woman has
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  not, something that a woman actually could acknowledge. Back in the day like
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  today, that comment would be a woman has a power that a man has
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  not. But there's nothing a man can do that a woman can't do.
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  That except oppression. Except oppression, Yeah, which is the kind of power.
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  You know. It's just it's all been, it's all been sliced down
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  and framed as victim and perpetrator. Yeah. The only power a man has
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  his perpetrator, and the only power a woman has is being absolutely perfect in
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  every way. Everyone's Mary Poppins now yeah, yeah, everyone's there. Mary
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  Poppins was actually kind of scary from my perspective as a kid, Like she
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  just came in and took over the entire household, undermined the parents, took
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  the kids to really weird places, could fly, had a magic bag,
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  she could have pulled anything out of it. Like that lady was weird.
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  She was a witch. She was straight up witch. It's just it's just
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  like bed mos and broomsticks. They're basically the same movie with the same guy
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  playing the father. Well, you know, he was probably the most fun
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  part of that whole movie too. I mean I liked all of the acting
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  in it, obviously, like Dick Van Dyke always shines as well, but
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  the father in that movie and same thing with bed knobs and broomsticks, there's
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  just a particular sometimes the guy that plays the straight man is the best part
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  of the whole movie. And I don't know, just me like dude had
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  Dude had an arc. That was the point. Yeah, even back in
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  those days, like Mary Pappas didn't have an ARC. She was perfect at
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  the beginning of perfectly end the same with yeah, character, it's not just
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  a modern phenomenon, folks, there have always been these these vapid mary Sues
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  are just always perfect. Well, and if you give a woman you piss
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  women off. You think about it, like, men have always had that
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  that and it's always made great characters, right, They've always been great characters
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  because they have that arc. They have that you know, they start out
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  with major flaws and they learn to overcome them or they learn to improve themselves.
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  Every time you try to do that with a female character, it's treated
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  like its misogyny, you know what I mean. Mm hmm, yeah,
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  And I'm sorry I sent us on a tangent so early in the show.
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  It was a good tangent though, But yeah, so this whole thing looking
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  at that, that one paragraph kind of when we ended on that and I
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  went away and I thought about it and I came back. Feminists back in
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  the day at least had to acknowledge that men and women relied on each other,
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  and men and women were better off working together than in opposition to each
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  other. Right, But they still demonized men. They still treated men like
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  the bad guys instead of saying, our situation has changed because of the Industrial
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  Revolution, and there are things that are safe for women to do now.
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  That maybe weren't before, and there are things that are not so hard for
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  women to do now, and we can help with things that men were doing
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  before without women. And you know, that would have been a better pathway
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  for feminism to take. It would have been a legitimate movement if it was
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  just about balancing things out after the Industrial revolution changed how much need there was
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  for a heavy division of labor between men and women. But they couldn't do
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  that. They acknowledge that they need men's strength, they acknowledge that they need
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  men's support. And then they turn around and say, but men are the
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  bad guys. You're the villains in the story, and we're the main characters.
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  That's their whole line. So then she follows this up where she started
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  to sound based, She started to sound good when she started to say,
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  you know, the blending of the two will make a better hole. Then
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  she says men have begun to fear women because they are surpassing them in so
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  many, so many lines of endeavor. She didn't actually come out and prove
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  this. She talks about colleges. She certainly didn't talk about coal mines,
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  right, And I just saw a woman on Twitter talking about statistics job statistics,
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  and she looked at early twentieth century women and today's women, and aside
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  from switching from farm labor to hr work, women are pretty much doing the
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  same twenty jobs that they did in the beginning of the twentieth century. That's
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  that's the big change that we've had, is that women have gone from doing
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  a very productive thing to doing something that's predatory. But yeah, women,
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  when men have begun to fear women because they are surpassing them in so many
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  lines of endeavor. Recently, men have even considered barring women out of co
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  educational colleges. Why because women are carrying away the scholarship records and men cannot
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  stand to have their inferiority proclaimed in education. Women have made tremendous strides.
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  It is not so long since women freed themselves from their man made belief that
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  it was unwomanly for a woman to have an idea of her own. I
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  don't think a man ever told me that, never heard that before in my
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  life. You know, who was telling her that? The answers that she's
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  telling herself that right, Men are not saying that, Oh God anyway.
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  Oh. In fact, most of the men that i've come into contact,
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  prefer women who think for themselves instead of women who need babysitters. Yeah,
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  exactly. It's interesting what she said about education, though, Mike. It's
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  the difference between when women come to men with their problems and when when men
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  come to women with their problems, as they've started to discover it over the
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  years. For the most part, when women come to men with their problems,
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  they don't want him to have an idea of his own. They just
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  wanted to say, yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. By day she's
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  totally in the wrong, Yeah, I'm here for you, I love you,
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  and stuff. Whereas when a man comes to a woman with a problem,
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  he wants her to help him solve it. He actually wants her to
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  come up with an idea of her own that perhaps he hadn't thought of,
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  because that's you know, men actually try to solve problems, I guess,
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  because if it's come to the point where he's asking someone else for help with
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  his problem, it means he's at an impulse because normally they try to solve
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  problems on their own. So if he ever does ask for help, it's
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  because it's such a complex problem that he does need help with. It,
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  And I guess I was about to say, I guess men have more complex
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  problems or more problems. I guess it's simplifying a little bit. I guess
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  it is modern women who tend to have problems that aren't really problems. They
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  just every day, every day neurotic frustrations and again hashtag not all you.
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  There's a couple of things going on there, Like first off, First off,
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  girls grow up being indulged when it comes to seeing things as problems,
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  right, Like you have the sibling fights where you're in the backseat of the
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  car and the pa answer in the front and your sibling's foot is on your
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  side of the floor. Right most of the time, Like when I was
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  a kid, my parents didn't put up with that crap. There was there
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  was none of that. You just you just basically were told, you know,
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  get over it, deal with it, you know whatever. And if
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  somebody was deliberately taking advantage of that, that would have been a different different
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  story. But those kind of petty complaints were treated like petty complaints regardless of
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  which one of us did it. But I noticed that when I was with
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  friends and family a lot of times, how petty the complaint was recognized as
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  depended on the sex of the kid, and you know, it was recognized
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  as petty when when boys had that complaint, but when when girls had that
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  complaint, they got indulged. And it was that way with a lot of
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  different things, and it changed the way, Like I look at the difference
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  between how I react to a lot of stuff, and I still react like
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  a girl to some things, but I don't when somebody's mocking me, because
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  I learned how to turn it around a lot of the times. And my
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  example that I usually give for that was, you know, the younger sibling
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  likes to do the mimicking what the older sibling is saying. So you say
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  something and then the younger sibling repeats it in a funny voice, and it
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  gets annoying over time, and so I, you know, complained about it,
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  and mom and dad were like, well, he's not doing anything hurt
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  you just deal with it, you know. And of course it was in
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  front of friends and everything. So finally I decided I was going to put
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  a stop to it in because I got more and more annoyed. So I
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  started rapid fire, just saying a bunch of things, Da da da,
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  da da da, And he's rapid fire, repeating everything I say verbatim in
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  the high pitched voice. Took a lot of talent, actually, you know,
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  looking back, I've got to respect the skill level there. But he
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  was doing it so fast that he lost track of actually thinking about the words.
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  And that's when I said, I'm a girl and I wear pink panties.
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  That ended it, right there. No more repetition and the older sibling
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  always wins. Not true though, because the younger sibling was bigger than me
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  by the time I was in kindergarten. Oh jeez, yeah, I got
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  his. I was. I was wearing his hand me downs by the time
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  I was in the second grade when I needed play clothes, like wear dresses
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  to school where my brother's old pants to go to the park. Because I'm
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  gonna gets right. But yeah, you grow up. You learn that stuff
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  when you when you have good parents. But a lot of girls treat every
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  little thing as harassment. He's breathing too loudly. You know, I'm sorry,
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  I've got a nose whistle, but I have allergies. We'll blow your
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  nose. Like not deal with it, people, people breathe deal with it?
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  Uh, and so that's part of it, right, Girls, girls
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  treat things as problems that guys don't treat as problems because guys don't get any
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  sympathy for petty complaints when they're growing up. And for some reason, people
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  indulge girls petty complaints, even when it's annoying to hear them complain all the
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  time. I think that's partly why in in first and second grade, basically
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  around the ages of like five, six, seven years old, the girls
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  are all major tattle tales. And and it's when I say tattletale, I
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  don't mean you know, somebody hits them, and then they go tell the
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  teacher, I mean, you know, somebody's tapping their foot on the floor,
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  And they go tell the teacher, like, who cares if somebody's tapping
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  their foot on the floor. People fidget, right, but it's noise,
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  so you're not supposed to be making noise in class. Therefore there's a rule
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  against it, and you go tell the teacher. That's that's one. The
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  other one is girls really are kind of addicted to that indulgence, and nobody
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  opposes that in them as they're growing up. Right, the victimhood and the
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  uh the need to have that sense of righteous indignation and so on. So
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  they want validation instead of solutions because they need that. I guess it's like
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  a video game achievement. Yes I am in the right, I am the
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  victim, I win, but the problems still there and it doesn't get better.
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  Like I don't know, I have been face the opposite of that when
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  there have been problems that I've suggested solutions for or asked for solutions for,
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  because I'm not demanding that validation. I'm saying, hey, this is a
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  problem, this is the cause of the problem, this is the result,
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  this is the effect of the problem, and this is the only thing I
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  can think of for a solution. Do you have any better ideas? Suddenly
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  it's well, your complaints not legitimate, because even when it's something like this
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  is interfering with my ability to do my tasks at work, or this is
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  a health threat, this is a safety threat, this is a fire hazard.
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  I got that over when I worked at the gas station. We had
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  a little supply not supply closet, but a little water. I don't want
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  to say water closet is not a bathroom, but it was a it was
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  a utility closet that had a drain in the bottom, and it was like
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  a giant four foot tall sink. And above this giant four foot tall sink
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  was the water heater, which was also about four feet tall, and somebody
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  had removed the little door between the little wall around it and the pilot light,
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  and so the pilot light was just exposed. You could see it,
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  which in and of itself wasn't a problem because there was like four inches in
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  between that and the edge of the water heater, and there's another four inches
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  to the wall around the water heater. In that wall was aluminum and it
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  wasn't getting warm, so it wasn't a big deal. But then my boss
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  started storing paperwork in there in that space, and I kept explaining the problem
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  and everything, and she kept accusing me of hysteria. Finally, for other
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  reasons, Osha came by surprise and visited the store, and they went ballistic
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  over that storing paperwork next to an open flame that is in a gas line
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  at a gas station, natural gas versus fuel. But still, that is
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  just absolutely ridiculous that anybody thought that that was okay to do. I mean,
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  what, yeah, I mean, I've worked in the same kind of
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  industry with a lot of gases and a lot of paper work, and you
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  don't you don't just leave open like combustible things near combustible sources of fucking and
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  oh my god, that's so crazy. Yeah, I'm went holistic too if
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  I work for Osha. Holy shit. And the reason why my complaint about
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  it was viewed as legitimate, the stated reason was because I already had a
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  solution in mind, uh when I went to her with the complaint. Therefore,
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  I must have come up with the solution to try to be uh,
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  you know, to look good or be controlling or whatever, and then made
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  up the complaint in order to force it on her. Oh my god.
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  Yeah. If I just said, uh, if I just said, oh,
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  I'm scared, this is really I feel unsafe, you know, and
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  shook a little bit and maybe dropped a tear or two. Uh, that
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  might have made all the difference in the world. What that meme. But
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  I'm mad is a solution. I don't want a solution. I want to
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  be mad, yeah, instead of mad. Yeah, I don't. I
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  will do that with being mad, though, even after I get a solution.
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  Okay, here's a solution. All right, I'm going to solve the
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  problem. But damn it, I'm still mad. This is a good mad.
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  I'm not letting it go. I might be mad for a few hours
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  after this, thank you, but I'm still mad, but I'm not mad
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  at you. Like it's just the thetism fighting the femininity. Very very weird.
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  Nova Fan twenty one gave us a dollar and said, given how feminists
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  used buzzwords with an assumed context that is often omitted, I'm guessing a woman
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  with a mind or an opinion meant some extreme lesbian separatist attitude such as pro
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  abortion. Well, they they treat all criticism of women's choices or ideas or
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  suggestions. Or Michael Blake is asking when we're gonna be live? We are
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  live, right, it's the stream is running? Yeah, where are you?
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  You're having technical difficulties by man once it's not us to let me reply
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  to him. What the heck is did YouTube drop? I'm gonna be mad
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  because I it was working. No, it's right here. It's definitely running.
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  For Fox's sake, What the hell? Everything's gotta be a mess?
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  Like nothing can just be straightforward. I swear this drives me nuts. Sorry,
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  I just it. It just hit me that I had that comment.
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  I'm like, I don't understand why why we're being asked. But then at
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  the same time, I see the comment is not in the YouTube stream.
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  Oh that's that's okay. My brain is putting the icons in the wrong place
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  when I'm looking at there stream chat that's X. So we're not streaming to
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  X. So I'm in a double check. It was us having technical difficulties.
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  Dang it. Yeah, it looks like we're supposed to be streaming to
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  X. Look here, I don't think I'm ever gonna get used to calling
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  it X. I know it sounds like a porn site. Yeah, I
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  mean, she's it practically is well. I mean, there's this one feminist
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  that is replying to a bunch of my stuff that every time she replies to
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  me, porn bots keep liking her comments. I finally commented, Gee,
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  the porn bots really seem to like your comments. She hasn't answered me on
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  that note. But yeah, it looks like it's it looks like it's going.
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  It's live. It has one hundred and sixty two views, apparently no
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  comments, but we can see I can see the image. It's it's the
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  one that's on screen right now. I can see the comments, so I
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  don't know what's going on there. Do we have any pawn bots yet?
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  You know your live when you get when you get nudes in bio, nudes
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  in bio, you know you've made it big when you get bo There we
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  go. No, but well we'll move on to the next tell them nyer
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  dave us twenty dollars in a super chow, said. The actor who plays
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  the father in Mary Poppins is David Tomlinson or David cecil McAllister Tomlinson to his
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  friends. I could not remember his name. That's really bad. And I
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  wonder women with ideas does she mean can evaluate things from her own opinions or
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  regurgitates what she has been told by university refeminist buzzwords. She does not seem
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  to be talking about women and women listening to men's emotional difficulties, that's for
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  sure. Yeah. No, feminism from the beginning treated men's responses to things,
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  men's emotional differentficulties, men's interests, wishes, objections, everything as illegitimate
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  at best, you know, petty and so on, and an attack on
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  women at worst. So there, there you go. And that's that's all
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  we get from feminists. We don't get feminism treating anything that that men do
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  as legitimate at at at the most. The most concession men ever get is
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  that they'll claim that society treats men that way. But by society we're talking
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  about women. But they'll blame it on men. So there you go.
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  In the meantime, she says, yeah, men have even considered barring women
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  out of co educational colleges because women carrying away to scholarship records. In other
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  words, men have considered banning women from school because women are getting better grades.
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  The truth is that back in the day you had and it's not so
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  much men that wanted women out, it was the universities, so women would
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  go to university. Let's say both a man and a woman go to the
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  same university and they both learned the same seven different languages, right, and
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  he becomes a professional translator and helps diplomats in other countries and does all kinds
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  of stuff. And you know, when people want to know where he went
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  to school and he's going to tell him, they're like, oh, this
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  great translator that does all this great work. For people went to this university.
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  If I want to become a professional translator, this might be where I
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  should go. She goes home, and she has bragging rights that she speaks
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  seven different languages. And now is that she didn't have to earn a living.
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  And you know, maybe a man and a woman go to the same
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  university and they go through the same coursework and he becomes a medical doctor.
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  Maybe she doesn't even take the test, you know, maybe she doesn't even
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  like take the medical boards or get any kind of certification. Later on,
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  when the university is seeking donations, he has money to donate. Maybe her
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  husband has money to donate, but he doesn't really have a reason, and
• 30:33
  she doesn't because she didn't go on to become a doctor and she didn't earn
• 30:37
  the money. Although back then doctors didn't really they weren't wealthy because they didn't
• 30:45
  have insurance to pay them and they didn't have the high fees that they have
• 30:49
  today. Actually, insurance was created by doctors because they weren't getting paid off
• 31:00
  and like a lot of times people just didn't have the money to pay them.
• 31:03
  They'd go see the doctor and then they might take months to pay or
• 31:07
  they might pay with a pig or produce instead of money and so on,
• 31:15
  and doctors wanted there to be a different way to handle that, and so
• 31:19
  they created Blue Cross. If I remember right, Blue Cross was the one.
• 31:26
  I might have to do a show on that at some point because it
• 31:30
  was a profession basically that was dominated by men where people did expect them to
• 31:36
  kind of work for free or work on work for money that was going to
• 31:45
  come much later, right, work on credit instead of getting paid when they
• 31:51
  did their work. And you really can't do that that consistently with that many
• 31:56
  people and survive. So she says, once a woman has obtained her independence
• 32:07
  and come to value her self respect she will demand the recognition of her complete
• 32:13
  equality politically, socially and in the laboring world. So women have to obtain
• 32:22
  their independence. Men men just are born with it. When there's a lot
• 32:30
  to unpack there, they're gonna start out by the fact that nobody takes responsibility
• 32:35
  for men, but everybody takes responsibility for women. You might consider the reason
• 32:43
  that women have to obtain their independence is because women are by nature dependent.
• 32:52
  Mm hmm, I mean none of it. We're all born as well.
• 32:58
  I was about to say we're all born as intos, but we're not.
• 33:00
  We're very much born dependent. Of all the species out there, we are
• 33:05
  among the most helpless at the moment of birth and for that many many years
• 33:13
  after birth. All kinds of mammals that are sort of able to walk almost
• 33:17
  straight out of the womb, human beings not so much. We are the
• 33:22
  extreme end of the k reproductive strategy. So we all have to earn our
• 33:34
  independence, and it takes us a bloody long time. But men are very
• 33:42
  much more obliged to earn it. They're expected to earn it one hundred years
• 33:51
  ago. They're expected to earn it by the age of something like twelve.
• 33:53
  Right, Yeah, they had to They didn't just have to earn it,
• 33:55
  they had to learn it, right, You had to develop knowledge and skill
• 34:04
  in order to be independent, just like you learned to crawl and then you
• 34:08
  learn to walk, and then you learn to run, and you learn to
• 34:14
  do any other types of physically demanding activity or physically challenging activity like that takes
• 34:20
  balance and coordination. You learn all of that through trial and error. Falling
• 34:24
  down, you know, busting your ass, busting your head sometimes in the
• 34:30
  same tumble, and you mean you mean, like this kid upstairs is currently
• 34:35
  doing right now. God, sorry, it's so just cracking. I don't
• 34:40
  know if anybody can hear it. But no, damn, I think he's
• 34:44
  gonna come through the feeling. Are you sure that's a kid and not a
• 34:46
  dog? No, it's the kid, Okay, But but yeah, girls
• 34:54
  get shielded from all of that, and boys don't get sympathy when and they
• 35:00
  get hurt like girls do. So boys learn their independence, girls don't.
• 35:06
  Girls go running to somebody to kiss it and make it better when they get
• 35:09
  injured. Girls go running to somebody to fix the problem when they can't complete
• 35:16
  a thing that they're trying to complete, or do a thing that they're trying
• 35:20
  to do, And a lot of times it's sort of imposed on them.
• 35:24
  If a girl is having difficulty with something and she's getting frustrated, and she's
• 35:30
  having difficulty moderating her frustration in the moment, and you know, maybe starts
• 35:38
  whimpering or crying or making angry noises or you know that kind of thing.
• 35:45
  Parents have a habit of taking the thing away and doing it for the kid.
• 35:51
  And you see this with girls. Boys will try the same thing over
• 35:54
  and over again. Until they figure out how to get it to work,
• 35:59
  or they figureigure out that it's impossible, and sometimes it takes injury for them
• 36:04
  to figure out that it's impossible. One of my friends as a kid broke
• 36:10
  his leg. I think the second or third time. He tried using a
• 36:15
  bed sheet as a parachute before I figured out it looked like it was gonna
• 36:21
  work. Getting it damp did not fix the problem. It's still it's still
• 36:30
  leaked shit. So yeah, we had we had all kinds of stuff like
• 36:37
  that. We had a we had a kid in the neighborhood that broke his
• 36:40
  leg playing football too, So two actually one in high school, went in
• 36:46
  elementary school. We played hard. But the bottom line is like this idea
• 36:52
  about women obtaining their independence that you have to wrestle it away from men,
• 36:59
  you know, where men actually would like for women to maybe carry a little
• 37:06
  more of their own weight and make it so that it's not so big of
• 37:12
  a responsibility on men burdensome. Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, like you know,
• 37:19
  maybe maybe pay a little of your own way. Maybe don't fund a
• 37:28
  messandric man hating movement with your husband's money in your husband's name, where you
• 37:34
  put missus husband's name as your name, when you're writing articles about how terrible
• 37:40
  men are. Right, then she goes on and she's going to attack the
• 37:49
  church. The church has been very, very hard on women. It has
• 37:53
  done its best to keep us in subjugation and to restrict us mentally. Women
• 38:01
  have at least in Protestant churches. I don't know if it's like this in
• 38:06
  Catholic churches, but women have controlled the Protestant Church for decades, maybe longer.
• 38:14
  As soon as it became a thing that the clergy didn't control the church,
• 38:20
  that the Bible was available to parishioners, that the dogma and you know,
• 38:30
  the participation in the actual spiritual tasks within the church were part of the
• 38:42
  activities of the parishioners. Women took over. Women started organizing everything. You
• 38:50
  still have the preacher in the pulpit doing the sermon, and the schedule of
• 38:58
  you know, sermon and evening services and things like that. That that was
• 39:05
  probably set by the clergy in every church, but all of the social activities,
• 39:10
  all of the dinners, all of the entertainment, like when you're gonna
• 39:16
  have a cantata, when you're gonna have a play, when you're gonna have
• 39:21
  anything to do with spiritual entertainment, any kind of education of the youth in
• 39:29
  the church, all of that was controlled by a women. I've never attended
• 39:35
  a church where that was not the case, not regularly anyway. I've only
• 39:42
  been to Catholic church a few times, and not being Catholic, I don't
• 39:49
  always understand what's going on in there. Jen Bottle says, not in the
• 39:53
  Catholic but it's changing a lot and not for the better, and that doesn't
• 39:58
  surprise me. Mostly men's clubs did the Catholic social services? Okay, that's
• 40:06
  that's actually good. That probably was more effective at least. Yeah, And
• 40:12
  then Packard says the Catholic Church was ten times as bad with the co worship
• 40:17
  of the Virgin Mary. There is that that's very guinescentric, Like the Protestant
• 40:23
  Church did not treat Mary like a deity or a holy person. She was
• 40:30
  simply a woman who made a spiritual decision. And on the subject of she
• 40:42
  talks about being restricted mentally and the adverb is almost irrelevant. There. There's
• 40:49
  a lot to be said for restriction, especially when you can when you compare
• 40:55
  it with unrestriction. I mean, do I really need to explain how being
• 41:01
  completely unrestricted is not necessarily a virtue at least to at least to all manner
• 41:10
  of uncontrollable UH chasing of pointless whims and stuff. These two promiscuity which can
• 41:21
  topple Empires has in the past, and it seems to be doing it presently.
• 41:28
  Home Math did a very good video about that very recently two hours ago,
• 41:31
  just before just before we came on home Math is smashing it. Fucking
• 41:37
  everyone. Go subscribe to home Ath and yeah, yeah, restriction is UH
• 41:45
  is very good for one's development because it gives you, It gives you a
• 41:52
  pathway. If you have to work within a brief, it's it's a lot
• 42:00
  easier to work. That's why to this day, when I do music I
• 42:04
  do I do cover versions because it gives me a narrow path to work down.
• 42:08
  I need to do these cords, I need to do these changes,
• 42:13
  I need to work within those restrictions, and from that I can just forge
• 42:17
  right ahead with the idea and it's and it's done with relative ease, and
• 42:22
  I can still be creative within those boundaries. And it's the same with with
• 42:28
  my videos, because they're mostly response videos. I find something I want to
• 42:34
  respond to, and I stay within the boundaries of that, and I find
• 42:37
  that much easier than actually writing an entirely original song from scratch, because I
• 42:44
  have all the possibilities in the world and I don't know what to pick,
• 42:49
  what you where to go from, because whatever I come up with, I'm
• 42:52
  like, no, that's not good enough, and it from there it is
• 42:55
  nothing I can ever think of it's good. It's much like having too many
• 43:00
  television channels. Back in the day, we only had like four or five
• 43:06
  or something, so you would just flick between the four or five channels and
• 43:09
  you'd find the thing that was the best, and you're just like, oh,
• 43:12
  I'll watch this. Now. When you've got thousands of channels, you
• 43:15
  just flick through them constantly because like, however interesting this thing is, there's
• 43:22
  like there's another thousand of these. I'm gonna keep flicking through until I find
• 43:25
  something I want. And you never find the thing you want because you know
• 43:29
  there's thousands more things that you could choose from. That's what I mean by
• 43:34
  a total lack of restriction can lead to you never finding a path. And
• 43:42
  yeah, obviously too much restriction could be a bad thing. If you've only
• 43:45
  got one channel, then you're gonna get constantly brainwashed by that one channel.
• 43:51
  But you know, we have thousands of channels and we still find ourselves getting
• 43:54
  brainwashed by the television because it's all regulated by the fucking government. But yeah,
• 44:05
  speaking of restriction as though it's universally uncontroversially bad thing is not the case.
• 44:14
  I mean, it starts in infancy. Babies prefer to be restricted.
• 44:20
  If you wrap them up tight in a in a in swaddling, yeah,
• 44:25
  they're actually a lot more comfortable than they are if they're just if their limbs
• 44:30
  are just flying loose everywhere, they start crying. If if they're completely unrestricted,
• 44:34
  if you just, if you just you know, if you if you
• 44:37
  tuck someone up tightly in bed, they feel better. Obviously, this changes
• 44:40
  as you grow older and eventually you want fewer restrictions, but you get that
• 44:45
  way by learning the narrow path of reasonable restrictions. Thank you for coming to
• 44:54
  my TED talk. You know it's interesting the word restriction is I think she
• 45:00
  is somewhat misusing the word restriction. Attention deficit disorder is a failure in regulation.
• 45:10
  So a person with ad D, like I right now I have uh
• 45:19
  three apps open on the laptop and two apps open on the desktop computer.
• 45:27
  I have a big TV sized monitors actually TV with four tabs on the desktop.
• 45:39
  In the laptop, I have a bunch of tabs but two windows.
• 45:45
  One I can see and you can't, and then the other one that everyone
• 45:51
  can see in my screen there. And you know, I'm running all this
• 45:54
  stuff and I'm the regulation part of it is my being able to folks us
• 46:00
  on the tab in the window where I'm reading to you guys versus everything else,
• 46:07
  and then glance over periodically to check the chat or check for super chows,
• 46:15
  or check the restream, make sure things are going the way they're supposed
• 46:19
  to be going and stuff like that. Right, But if I if I
• 46:22
  had ADHD, all of that would overwhelm me because I wouldn't be able to
• 46:27
  tune the stuff on the screen the desktop screen out to look at the laptop.
• 46:34
  And you know, depending on how bad it was, it might just
• 46:37
  be challenging to tune other things out, or if it was really severe,
• 46:43
  it would just be impossible. And you know, I've seen this with with
• 46:50
  people that I've worked with in various ways, and they have that failure and
• 46:54
  regulation. Right, Women in general have a lower level of regulation of their
• 47:02
  thoughts and their attention and taking things to extremes and stuff like that than men
• 47:08
  do. And a lot of feminists will object to that. But men can
• 47:15
  focus for decades on building projects and get them get them done, and women
• 47:22
  do have a habit of collecting projects that they never finish. Right. Men,
• 47:29
  men can focus for generations on making change in society and developing things in
• 47:37
  society that benefit other people. And uh, you know, women get distracted
• 47:44
  by every little problem in the middle of dealing with bigger problems. And it's
• 47:50
  again, it's not entirely gendered because some women, and I think this is
• 47:57
  one of the things that gets as diagnosed and diagnosed as satistic. Some women
• 48:00
  are more internally regulated than other women, more logic focused, more able to
• 48:09
  tune things out and focus exclusively on one thing when it's necessary, And some
• 48:15
  men don't have that capability, and they're more likely to get an ADHD diagnosis
• 48:22
  when that happens. But when she's talking about the church, the church wants
• 48:29
  you to regulate your attention onto subjects that are beneficial to your life and beneficial
• 48:38
  to your spirituality, your relationship with deity. Right, that's what church is
• 48:44
  about. So when women want to focus on things that are not about that,
• 48:49
  the church doesn't necessarily tolerate that. And this woman gets mad and she
• 48:55
  says things like women are beginning to feel very bitter to or the church or
• 49:00
  the men who control it. Uh yeah, because they won't let you sleep
• 49:04
  around and divorce your husband and still feel good about yourself. Right. That's
• 49:09
  that's dysregulation. That's you not focusing on your marriage, not focusing on your
• 49:17
  relationship, not focusing on your spirituality, and instead focusing on your feelings and
• 49:24
  letting them get out of control. You know, Like women are really bad
• 49:30
  in particular about emotional dysregulation. When women flip flop emotionally on a frequency level
• 49:40
  that sometimes just drives men up the wall. It's scary. It's scary how
• 49:45
  women can just have a mood change, you know. Yeah, when it
• 49:53
  happens to the woman too, Like one minute you're you're fine. In an
• 50:00
  next minute, you're like ready to cry because you thought of something your whole
• 50:04
  internal monologue. Nobody knows why you're ready to cry, but there it is.
• 50:13
  Yeah, and it is scary. But but that's not you know.
• 50:17
  What she's on about there, I think is she wants the rules of the
• 50:23
  church to not apply when she wants to misbehave. And we are talking about
• 50:31
  a woman who was married to a wealthy man, divorced him and married another
• 50:37
  wealthy man. She says, they haven't driven us away from the Christian religion.
• 50:45
  They can't do that. But by their dictatorial discrimination, they are driving
• 50:52
  us out of the churches as they are organized, out of the edifices which
• 51:00
  his voice, they did drive them out of the Christian religion. Yeah,
• 51:02
  and into the arms of the rainbow one. You know, I don't think
• 51:08
  I don't think that was men's fault. I don't think that was the church's
• 51:12
  fault. I think that was women refusing to, like you, show up
• 51:16
  at church for the social reasons instead of showing up for the spiritual reasons.
• 51:20
  It was women refusing to actually go to church to worship. And I know
• 51:30
  I grew up in a small The church was built by farmers because there wasn't
• 51:40
  one nearby, and it was an offshoot of the Baptist Church over the argument
• 51:50
  of whether you're saved or not before you get baptized, which to me,
• 51:55
  that's kind of a petty argument, but I I don't have anything to do
• 52:01
  with that. But in any case, where I went to church, there
• 52:07
  was a pattern of how people behave toward each other, and you know,
• 52:14
  how people tried to live their lives, and how people face their difficulties and
• 52:20
  their temptations and all that stuff, and it was pretty down to earth.
• 52:24
  It was just, well, this is these are the pitfalls in society,
• 52:30
  and here's how we're going to deal with the pitfalls. And the men and
• 52:35
  the women both did that together, right. But I noticed going around doing
• 52:42
  wedding photography and visiting churches in different communities when I moved to different communities and
• 52:47
  stuff that was actually uncommon a lot of churches. The women, when the
• 52:52
  women are there, it's the whole reason that they're at church is to social
• 53:00
  with people that they meet in church and to gossip about each other, and
• 53:07
  like that's that's the like, oh, and they're doing a little religion on
• 53:10
  the side, you know, that's the whole thing. And I think that's
• 53:16
  probably partly what she was responding to was that women, a lot of times,
• 53:27
  their participation in this spiritual endeavor isn't about the spirituality, and when when
• 53:37
  the endeavor itself stubbornly continues to be spiritual and about the spirituality, women are
• 53:45
  offended. If that makes sense. M I trying sort of trying to say
• 53:53
  it without being preachy to I know a lot of our listeners are of different
• 54:02
  faiths, and I don't know if that happens in every faith, but it
• 54:07
  definitely happens in the Protestant Church any case. She says, if man wants
• 54:17
  to make a little god of himself, he will have to do it by
• 54:22
  himself and for himself. Can I get your terms are acceptable? Yeah?
• 54:29
  Right. He may stand in the pulpit and sit in the pew, but
• 54:35
  we also must stand as well as sit. So what she's mad about is
• 54:39
  not being able to preach, which she's doing right here. I don't have
• 54:45
  a platform. Nobody listens to me. In the letter that she published in
• 54:51
  a national magazine, national arguing about being canceled in some kind of cancel culture,
• 55:02
  who's still got a column of newspapers? Yeah? Yeah, it's one
• 55:08
  hundred years later and your ladies have still not been canceled. As a matter
• 55:15
  of fact, y'all have made yourselves into goddesses for herself and by him herself.
• 55:27
  I forget which is her and him. It's all become a little bit
• 55:30
  blurred, hasn't it. Yes, Yeah, it's And none of this is
• 55:36
  a result of men turning themselves into the Godhead. It's very much women turning
• 55:42
  themselves into the Godhead, probably in direct opposition to the Christian Godhead being a
• 55:52
  pretty explicitly male one. But people are learning their lesson that there was a
• 55:58
  reason that was done, because in the absence of a male godhead, you
• 56:02
  end up with a female one. Yep. Yeah. The big thing that
• 56:12
  I'm seeing and changes in churches over the last you know, well since I
• 56:17
  was a kid, is that they've gotten away from following the teachings of the
• 56:24
  Bible, and they've have gotten away from teaching self regulation and having a strong
• 56:36
  moral structure, paying attention to the impact of your actions on other people.
• 56:42
  And they've been infiltrated by the LGBTQ, me me me activism. And it's
• 56:52
  it depends on where you are how bad that is. Like, if you
• 56:57
  go into churches in a small town, a lot of times they're a lot
• 57:00
  like they were when I was a kid. But if you go into churches
• 57:04
  and bigger cities and stuff where there's a lot bigger, denser population, maybe
• 57:09
  pun intended. Uh, you get it. There's sort of this encapsulated this
• 57:16
  is the norm in the city. And therefore you now get uh, you
• 57:22
  now get churches where they have LGBTQ activities in the church, and uh,
• 57:30
  you know, they'll they'll they'll even you know, celebrate things like Pride months
• 57:37
  and stuff like that. It just it's it's distasteful to talk about a church
• 57:42
  celebrating pride. It's the dumbest thing. I mean, there are seven deadly
• 57:49
  sins. Six of them are not pride, but one of them is right.
• 57:58
  So that's it doesn't matter or how you know, you feel about like
• 58:01
  the whether the religion is legitimate or not or whatever, it still doesn't belong
• 58:07
  in church. It's the antithesis of what we were taught. But yeah,
• 58:14
  that's that's basically the result of women taking over women. You know, the
• 58:21
  same thing's been done in education. Education used to be dominated by male teachers,
• 58:25
  male administrators, you know, and so on, male personnel. And
• 58:30
  it was about teaching students skills that would would help them work in society and
• 58:39
  provide a service and earn an income and be part of their community. In
• 58:46
  any social education that took place in the school was through that filter of how
• 58:55
  can I make this person more skill at being a functional member of their community?
• 59:04
  And women took over education and they just did a one to eighty and
• 59:08
  now they're doing their best to completely cripple students in terms of being skilled at
• 59:15
  being functional members of their community. That completely destroyed it. They don't teach
• 59:22
  life skills, they don't teach work skills, and now they're actually teaching social
• 59:28
  lessons that are detrimental to the student's future ability to be a functional member of
• 59:35
  their community. And it can't be much of a coincidence that the people associating
• 59:43
  themselves with pride also seem to be expressing some lust, not to mention,
• 59:51
  some greed, and by the looks of them, some gluttony, and obviously
• 59:55
  some sloth and necessarily end quite visibly angry. Yeah, that's all seven.
• 1:00:08
  None of this is a coincidence. There's a really, it's not even a
• 1:00:12
  religious reason that these seven things are outlined. It's obvious from the evidence before
• 1:00:20
  our very eyes that there's a reason these things are considered undesirable states of mind
• 1:00:28
  as are their complete opposites. I mean, that's that that's one one area
• 1:00:32
  where if you if you approach these things religiously, and I mean that in
• 1:00:39
  the proverbial sense as well as the literal sense, the opposite of any given
• 1:00:45
  deadly sin can also be deadly. That's why shame is just as bad as
• 1:00:49
  pride, and never eating anythings just as bad as gluttony, and never giving
• 1:00:58
  a ship about anything is just as bad as anger and someone and so forth.
• 1:01:02
  But yeah, what we're seeing is the results of religious narcissism, taking
• 1:01:12
  the seven deadly sins and going, no, we're going to do all of
• 1:01:15
  these things just because you told us not to, and that, Yeah,
• 1:01:17
  I guess that's part of human nature. That's that's largely what drives a lot
• 1:01:22
  of us, Like you tell us not to talk about things, and that's
• 1:01:27
  just gonna make us talk about those things, because don't you fucking tell me
• 1:01:30
  or not to talk about left Talking is one thing, uh, in entire
• 1:01:37
  realms of lifestyle or another, as there's a there's a reason we live our
• 1:01:45
  lives a certain way, and it's it's very different from talking about things.
• 1:01:52
  You can talk about whatever you like, just just don't eat yourself to or
• 1:02:00
  be lazy or envious or too lustful, don't develop main character syndrome. Every
• 1:02:08
  single one of the other six is dependent on when we say pride. Pride
• 1:02:15
  is the modern iteration. Vanity is the correct iteration, I guess the correct
• 1:02:22
  way of saying it. Vanity is different from when we use the word pride.
• 1:02:27
  We often use the word pride to describe things that are much milder than
• 1:02:30
  vanity, like satisfaction in a job well done. I think I described that
• 1:02:35
  the other day in terms of how I feel when I finish scrubbing a toilet,
• 1:02:38
  like I don't need to show it off to anybody. I don't want
• 1:02:42
  a trophy, but I'm very satisfied with how it's turned out right. Pride
• 1:02:50
  would would be when you say you take pride in a job well done.
• 1:02:55
  It's not vanity. I did this. This is about me. It's this
• 1:03:00
  is the way it should be, and now you know it's in order.
• 1:03:07
  That's that's satisfaction, pride, vanity. Pride is I'm the main character.
• 1:03:13
  I'm important. Everybody needs to know how hard I worked on this damn toilet,
• 1:03:15
  and nobody is allowed to use it. Because it has to stay clean.
• 1:03:20
  Now, right, vanity is self destructive and every one of the other
• 1:03:25
  ones are as well. Uh. And in the process of being self destructed
• 1:03:32
  destructive people often hurt others along with themselves. And I guess that's that's why
• 1:03:43
  we refer to them as the seven Deadly sins. People die for these things,
• 1:03:47
  and they kill for these things because they're they're focused on themselves. They're
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  they're basically engaging in main character syndrome. So, yeah, it's not so
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  much. Uh, it's not so much a matter of you have to be
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  religious to understand this as it is. You know, you have to have
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  at least a little bit of humility. Humility and shame are not the same,
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  by the way. You just have to be able to recognize the importance
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  of other people. That's that's humility is recognizing the importance of other people,
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  you know, without having to think about your own importance in comparison to theirs.
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  It just matters that other people are important. There's a there's a middle
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  way for every deadly sin. There's as an equal and opposite deadly sin,
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  And it sounds to reason between the two of them, there is a middle
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  way. Yeah, kind of that. That's that's kind of what Buddhism.
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  Buddhism was about. It's specifically the middle way in that case, between uh
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  hedonism and asceticism, between pursuing pleasure and pursuing pain, because that that was
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  something that the Hindu faith found itself going in all sorts of very strange directions.
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  So there were people that would indulged in all kinds of pleasure because they
• 1:05:12
  thought it made them godly, and in all kinds of pain because it made
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  them so similar things happened with the ancient Greeks at similar times. And the
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  whole idea of Buddhism is that it's the middle way. Like, you're not
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  going there. There's no salvation through these extremes. You need to find somewhere
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  in the middle. And even that's not the answer, because that's going to
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  lead you to the both sides of syndrome and all kinds of place. So
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  yeah, you'll, you'll, you'll live and find the absolute answer to everything,
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  because anything can be corrupted. You just got to keep your wits about
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  you, folks. Yep, she goes on. Sex discrimination must be done
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  away within the church as well as in politics in the professions and in the
• 1:06:00
  businesses and laboring worlds. Men say all priests must be men. We might
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  retort that all priests shall be women, but we do not. We say
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  the priesthood shall be filled by those best fitted to occupy the pulpit, whether
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  men or women. Well, it's been one hundred years. We see the
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  result of that. Who decides who's best suited? Je Jo's on. I
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  say, if you are worthy to be a priest, be a priest.
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  But if I am worthy to be a priest, I shall be a priest
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  too. We will both be priests. This is not working against men,
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  but merely standing shoulder to shoulder with him. So that was her statement on
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  gender roles in the church. And if you notice, like I said before,
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  with the increase and women taking positions of authority and responsibility in the church
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  outside of the traditional female roles in the church, you got infected with pride.
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  Yeah, I mean this is and isn't this completely against like the way
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  the church is supposed to go. First, it's God, then man,
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  then woman. Right, like the woman submits to the man, man submits
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  to God. So, you know, trying to be shoulder to shoulder with
• 1:07:35
  the men that's it's not gonna work. Lady doesn't work like that. Yeah,
• 1:07:42
  that's you know, there there are ways that you can be shoulder to
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  shoulder with men and help them, but accusing them of discrimination for doing the
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  responsibilities that they deal with and building the structures that they've built and running those
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  structures for hundreds of years until you suddenly have free time because they also invented
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  a lot of stuff that made your work easier. Uh. Oh, that's
• 1:08:19
  that's oppressive and discriminatory, right, they're the bad guys. Like that's definitely
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  not standing shoulder to shoulder with men, right right, that's crawling up their
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  ass. It's not the same. Yeah, I'm looking at the chat right
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  now, Gen Bottle, there was a comment. I don't see it.
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  I had to look back to see what he was talking about. Yeah,
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  it was the if you are worthy to be a priest, be a priest,
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  good advice, Ms. Belmont, start your own catacomb gathering. Oh
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  my gosh, Yeah, I don't. I don't think. I don't think
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  that opening up the clergy to women and catering to women's sensibilities regarding divine education,
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  you know, divinity school and so on, had good results. I
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  don't think it was. Uh. I don't think it was beneficial to the
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  church. I don't think it was beneficial to women, and I don't think
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  it was beneficial to the parishioners. So I'm just just gonna say that,
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  like, and you can call me sexist, you can say whatever you want
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  about it, but look at the results. She says. Unless the men
• 1:09:47
  of the church realize, realized definitely our claims, we shall have to have
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  our own priesthood. Uh. When women did that already, it was called
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  which craft. Only the other day I read the decision of a convention of
• 1:10:06
  churches to exclude women from all positions of power and authority. They were not
• 1:10:13
  even allowed as members of the vestry. That is rather astonishing in the twentieth
• 1:10:18
  century. So apparently we have it. We've had it wrong for a long
• 1:10:24
  time. Guys. The current year was not twenty fifteen, It was nineteen
• 1:10:29
  twenty two. Every year is the currentest year. Yeah, it's the current
• 1:10:38
  year. It's time to do this thing that we have never done before for
• 1:10:44
  reasons. We live in a man made world and worship in a man dominated
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  church, and we can no longer be expected to endure it. She just
• 1:10:54
  like goes on and on about the church, which is funny because this was
• 1:10:58
  published in the United States. The church isn't the government doesn't run the government,
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  doesn't control the government, and doesn't doesn't determine who goes into government.
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  So I just am not buying this at all. Do we need a long
• 1:11:20
  asked lesson about the French Revolution? There were I mean, there there were
• 1:11:28
  three different factions of government that led to the French Revolution. It was royalty,
• 1:11:38
  the clergy, and it was the the PLBs. And and the reason
• 1:11:45
  the problems came about is because the royalty and the clergy always agreed on everything
• 1:11:50
  and and the Plubs did not. And it was this holy trinity that that
• 1:11:56
  led the Plubs to sort of go hang on, this seems to be a
• 1:12:00
  rigged game. Yeah, the sentiment that's been has been much much reflected in
• 1:12:09
  the modern day. And when when you add the clergy into what would otherwise
• 1:12:13
  be a tooted class class system, it's sort of it rigged the game.
• 1:12:21
  And this is why religion and states should always be separate. This this was
• 1:12:29
  it was largely one of the cornerstones of the of the American Republic. They
• 1:12:35
  did it the right way. The French Republic did it completely the wrong way
• 1:12:40
  because they because they never had state and religion and religion separated in the first
• 1:12:45
  place, and arguably the French Revolution was was the tiny domino that led to
• 1:12:54
  the massive dominoes falling that we're currently seeing. So yeah, it's some degree.
• 1:13:00
  Yes, the church is not the state, and it shouldn't be.
• 1:13:03
  But if they are allowed to interfere with each other at all, then you
• 1:13:09
  get nightmares shit like the French Revolution. Yep, yep. But for some
• 1:13:16
  reason this is a big deal for her. Of course, early in the
• 1:13:19
  twentieth century you did have it dominated the culture. The church dominated the culture
• 1:13:29
  in the United States. It didn't dominate the government necessarily, but because it
• 1:13:35
  did dominate the culture, and the culture sort of determines how the government operates
• 1:13:44
  because we live in a representative republic, which you know, the culture determines
• 1:13:51
  who people are going to vote for and so on, then there's a connection,
• 1:13:56
  right, So she's probably looking at it as a structure of power.
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  But even even in the early twentieth century, you had atheists and had jobs
• 1:14:05
  and they did their thing. You had you had people who were from a
• 1:14:14
  variety of different churches, right, and you had people who were of other
• 1:14:18
  of non Christian religions in the United States, and they did their thing and
• 1:14:26
  they weren't punished for it or kept out of society, you know, other
• 1:14:32
  aspects of society for it. They also didn't see fit to shove it up
• 1:14:38
  everybody's noses either, So there you go. But yeah, she has decided
• 1:14:45
  that it's very important, and of course she's this. This magazine, The
• 1:14:49
  Ladies Home Journal, was kind of a conservative women's magazine. It was actually
• 1:14:57
  published until sometime twenty fourteen when it had it wasn't a monthly anymore at that
• 1:15:04
  point, but it had had special issues come out till that point. So
• 1:15:10
  it's only been out of publication for ten years. So it was really long
• 1:15:14
  running magazine. And so that's probably why she's going on and on about the
• 1:15:20
  church, trying to persuade the women who read this magazine that the church as
• 1:15:26
  a structure of power is bad. And I think the magazine went downhill over
• 1:15:34
  time. I don't remember being excited about it when I was young enough that
• 1:15:40
  I actually bought magazines and read them. But in any case, it's probably
• 1:15:47
  because my favorite magazine back of the day was Shutterbug. So but's she goes
• 1:15:58
  on about this. You know, we live in a man made world and
• 1:16:00
  worship in a man dominated church, and we can no longer be expected to
• 1:16:04
  endure it. When you think of the beauty of the Christian faith, which
• 1:16:09
  means so tremendously much to people who understand it, and see that even with
• 1:16:15
  it as an inspiration, men have found no better way of setting questions than
• 1:16:21
  simply to invent the worst possible type of machinery to destroy property, kill each
• 1:16:27
  other, uproot everything settled, peaceful, and intelligent. You realize how colossal
• 1:16:32
  has been their failure. What claim can any man who has so failed make
• 1:16:38
  to an understanding of the spirit of Christ? And then she signs it National
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  Council of the Woman's Party President Again. She's talked this whole time about women
• 1:16:51
  standing on their own two feet, women standing shoulder to shoulder with men,
• 1:17:00
  taking over male dominated areas, women being independent, women thinking for themselves.
• 1:17:06
  And her signature is President Missus Oliver H. P. Belmont, New York.
• 1:17:15
  I still don't I don't remember what her first name is. It's somewhere
• 1:17:18
  in this article or somewhere on the page where it explains who she was.
• 1:17:27
  But yeah, missus Oliver, that's her husband's name. There are no women
• 1:17:34
  named Oliver that I know of. And they go on with these signatures and
• 1:17:42
  then on the next page, whoop, just increase the size of the pdf.
• 1:17:50
  Here there was some other stuff. So see this was an ad from
• 1:18:02
  back in the day. She says, join the Women's Party, work with
• 1:18:10
  women for women, help win for all women. Equal control of their children.
• 1:18:19
  That didn't go so well, Equal control of their property, equal control
• 1:18:27
  of their earnings, equal rights in schools and universities, equal opportunities and professions
• 1:18:34
  and industries. So let's start with it goes on like this, right,
• 1:18:40
  but equal equal control of their children. So did she want to give up
• 1:18:46
  some of that control to men in order to make it equal? Because feminist
• 1:18:56
  organizations have been fighting since eighteen forty I want to say, eighteen forty three
• 1:19:00
  or eighteen thirty four to take away father's custody rights. So like, what
• 1:19:13
  would equality even look like if if feminists fought for equal control over their children?
• 1:19:24
  It would it look like women getting jobs so that men could have less
• 1:19:30
  time at work and more time at home with their kids. That's what it
• 1:19:34
  should look like. But that's not what they that's not what they it's not
• 1:19:41
  the end that they want. They won all the gibs without actually having to
• 1:19:45
  do the work. You know, y, they definitely didn't want to give
• 1:19:49
  up child support. Like right around this time, Like child support kind of
• 1:19:58
  existed before this, but right around this time, there was something called the
• 1:20:04
  Uniform Desertion Act Uniform Desertion in something else Act. Let me see if I
• 1:20:12
  can find the name of it just by maybe if I just type in uniform
• 1:20:21
  desertion, because it's such a weird name for the law that was passed that
• 1:20:28
  if a man got No. Of course Google wants to give me a bunch
• 1:20:34
  of articles about school uniforms. Yes, that I was searching for uniform desertion,
• 1:20:42
  not uniform dissertation. The fuck Google? Okay, there we go.
• 1:20:49
  Nineteen ten National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws approved the Uniform Desertion and
• 1:20:57
  Non Support Act, made it a crime at offense to fail to support or
• 1:21:00
  to desert a wife and children. Now, there were already state laws that
• 1:21:06
  did that. States already had their own way of handling if a man left
• 1:21:14
  a marriage and left the children behind. They didn't do that if a woman
• 1:21:17
  left the marriage and left the children behind, because the man was expected to
• 1:21:23
  be able to just work and provide care for the children, and he didn't.
• 1:21:30
  He wasn't expected to need any financial support from his ex wife. But
• 1:21:35
  the women of course didn't have to do that, and women were were entitled
• 1:21:46
  to money if a guy left. So that was that was about ten years
• 1:21:53
  before she had this conversation. Equal control over their children and equal control over
• 1:21:58
  their property. I think control over anything should go to the person that can
• 1:22:05
  pay for it and who has who has responsibility for it, right, exactly,
• 1:22:13
  this is what she's doing. Would be the equivalent is this if your
• 1:22:17
  back seat passenger wanted equal control over the car. Right. Yeah. And
• 1:22:26
  when she says equal control over their property, feminists will talk about this like,
• 1:22:31
  you know, if you if you came into a marriage with uh with
• 1:22:39
  with wealth, like you were from a wealthy family and you had a home
• 1:22:45
  or a bunch of jewelry or you know, animals like farm animals or anything
• 1:22:54
  like that that you know you brought into the into the marriage, you your
• 1:22:58
  property became mayor property. Now this was true men and women, right the
• 1:23:03
  husband and the wife and women expected to benefit from from their husband's economic support.
• 1:23:12
  When he would go to work and do his job and bring home his
• 1:23:15
  earnings, he was expected to spend them on the welfare of the whole family,
• 1:23:23
  including her, without complaint, without withholding from her, without failing to
• 1:23:30
  take care of her right but her stuff was hers. He was expected to
• 1:23:36
  manage it. He was responsible for it. But he wasn't allowed to abuse
• 1:23:42
  that privilege, you know, enact against her interest with it. So if
• 1:23:50
  you know, women married a wealthy farmer, and her father was also a
• 1:23:57
  wealthy farmer, and she came into that marriage with several horses. They were
• 1:24:02
  her horses, and she could do with them what she wanted within the limitations
• 1:24:08
  of his permission. And the reason that she needed his permission was because if
• 1:24:14
  she created expenses using those horses, he had to be able to cover that.
• 1:24:19
  If she created a risk to herself or other people using those horses,
• 1:24:24
  he was liable for that. And that was it. That was that was
• 1:24:28
  all the limitation. He couldn't take those horses and sell them without her permission
• 1:24:35
  and keep the money for himself and just spend it however he wanted, and
• 1:24:42
  if he did do that, she had legal recourse. That's that's the way
• 1:24:46
  coviture worked. But she talks about it like women didn't have any control over
• 1:24:55
  their property, when in actuality, women had. Women had entitlement to men's
• 1:25:01
  property, and they also had entitlement to their own property. Men didn't have
• 1:25:08
  entitlement full entitlement to either. Same thing, with earnings, equal control of
• 1:25:17
  their earnings. If a woman had a job, a man couldn't just take
• 1:25:25
  the money. Her husband couldn't just take the money and spend it on himself.
• 1:25:30
  If she contributed it to the family, that was her choice. But
• 1:25:34
  she didn't have to. She wasn't responsible for supporting herself. So she goes
• 1:25:43
  on with equal rights in schools and universities, equal opportunities and professions and industries,
• 1:25:49
  and equal pay for equal work. Oh God, of course that one
• 1:25:57
  was gonna get in there, of course, except women were already attending university
• 1:26:03
  by that time. In fact, there were women who were doctors by that
• 1:26:06
  time. There weren't a lot right, but they could go, they could
• 1:26:13
  learn, and they could get their certification. They could go into medical practice,
• 1:26:17
  and some did, many didn't. Some got degrees in nursing and went
• 1:26:24
  into that practice. Some didn't. Like, there's a whole bunch of different
• 1:26:30
  things that women did in universities and schools. Women. Feminists talk about this
• 1:26:36
  like they never happened. Same thing with professions and industries. There were things
• 1:26:43
  women were exempt from, and feminists talk about it like they were excluded.
• 1:26:47
  Wow, And they pushed for some kind of equal rights Act, which they
• 1:26:51
  got in the sixties or the seventies, depending on which country you were living
• 1:26:57
  in, and then they pretended that never happened either. Yeah, this day,
• 1:27:02
  there's still pretending that it never happened the seventies. But you can't.
• 1:27:10
  You can't logic someone out of a of an article of faith, and the
• 1:27:15
  article of faith is women get paid less than men for the same job.
• 1:27:19
  Oh yeah, do you have any proof? Do you even have any evidence?
• 1:27:24
  Shut up, you misogynists. And that's all. That's all that's ever
• 1:27:27
  going to be. What's even funnier is that there's evidence against the claim,
• 1:27:32
  right, There's there's evidence that men and women do not do the same work.
• 1:27:36
  It isn't the same work, it's different work. And feminists have gone
• 1:27:42
  down some really convoluted paths trying to justify the claim of the same work to
• 1:27:49
  the degree that they will say a cashier and a manager in a in a
• 1:27:54
  grocery store are doing the same work, and no they're not. You know,
• 1:28:00
  taking on a level of responsibility for things that are not necessarily always under
• 1:28:04
  your control is work. Right, Being responsible for your children is work.
• 1:28:12
  Being responsible for your subordinates is work. Being responsible for the environment in a
• 1:28:18
  store where you can't be everywhere at once and you can't be there twenty four
• 1:28:25
  to seven, that's work. But and it's work that's not done by the
• 1:28:30
  cashier. The cashier does not have to do that. If the cashier in
• 1:28:34
  Asle one does something wrong, the cashier and Aisle three bears no responsibility,
• 1:28:40
  has no culpability, doesn't get called on the carpet for failing as a manager
• 1:28:45
  because she's not. That always droves. That is one of those things always
• 1:28:54
  drives me nuts because I've worked as a supervisor and it like the women that
• 1:29:00
  talk like this, will they get really heated about, you know, talking
• 1:29:03
  like men or supervisors and women are underlings and they're doing the same work,
• 1:29:08
  but men get paid more. You can be a supervisor. You just have
• 1:29:13
  to be willing to take on the responsibility and able able to take on the
• 1:29:18
  responsibility. Equal opportunities in government service, she says, So the first women
• 1:29:27
  in Congress wait in government service or government services. Yeah, well, women
• 1:29:32
  got a lot of government services. But the first woman in Congress got elected
• 1:29:39
  before women could vote. Wow. In most states, or at least in
• 1:29:45
  the Eastern States. A lot of the Western states came into the Union with
• 1:29:49
  women's voting rights already intact, especially the ones after the early twentieth century,
• 1:29:57
  but even the ones before Wyoming, for instance, there was never time in
• 1:30:02
  Wyoming. I don't think when women weren't allowed to vote when it was a
• 1:30:08
  state. It was a colony when that was decided. But yeah, equal
• 1:30:15
  opportunities and government service. So she talks like women couldn't run for office after
• 1:30:23
  there's already been a woman in Congress. How did she get there? Equal
• 1:30:33
  opportunity or equal authority and opportunity in the church, we talked a little bit
• 1:30:42
  about this already, but I want to point out women just sort of walk
• 1:30:47
  into organizations and demand inclusion in the administration of an organization that existed independent of
• 1:31:00
  their control for hundreds of years without providing any reason why they deserve it or
• 1:31:09
  why it would be beneficial to the organization. And this is just one example.
• 1:31:17
  Equal control of national, state, and local government. So again,
• 1:31:26
  what's stopping you from running for office. All you got to do is prove
• 1:31:30
  to people that it would be beneficial to them if you got in, and
• 1:31:34
  they will vote for you. Equal rights after marriage to their own identity.
• 1:31:44
  What yeah, says the woman who could have signed her own name to the
• 1:31:51
  letter she wrote and chose to use her husband's name instead. Equal moral standard.
• 1:32:04
  So we've seen what has happened over the last one hundred years of women
• 1:32:11
  mimicking what they think is the moral standard for men. And they're miserable.
• 1:32:20
  About seventy percent of women who are single mothers are single mothers by choice,
• 1:32:26
  either because they chose not to marry when they conceived, chose to conceive without
• 1:32:35
  a plan to marry, or chose to divorce their husbands. And they're miserable.
• 1:32:45
  They're angry about their situation. They're angry about the freedom that men have
• 1:32:53
  from that situation. They're angry about not getting enough money from men, and
• 1:32:58
  the government, which is taking the money from men that it gives to them,
• 1:33:04
  Like they're in they're they're really they're really angry because we're right. You
• 1:33:11
  know, they're right when people say that this is a hard path, it's
• 1:33:15
  not the way you want to go. You know, children should be raised
• 1:33:19
  in a two parent household. They get pissed because they know that we're right.
• 1:33:24
  Yep, they're mad about that, and they're mad about every little like
• 1:33:30
  they're mad about the stigma. They're mad about how their kids that you know,
• 1:33:35
  how their kids are. They're mad about the effort they have to put
• 1:33:39
  into it. They're mad about all of it. But it's all self inflicted.
• 1:33:45
  Yeah, and they still don't have an equal moral standard because if men
• 1:33:51
  did that to themselves, nobody would have any sympathy for them at all.
• 1:33:58
  No, But women, all they have to do is complain about it a
• 1:34:04
  lot publicly. Complain to the government, Complain to the media, Complain to
• 1:34:12
  each other, Complain to the neighbors, complain, complain, complain, complain
• 1:34:15
  on social media, and uh, well, people just throw money at them,
• 1:34:19
  right. They can get they can get money for for complaining by getting
• 1:34:25
  donations. They can get money for complaining by by going to the to the
• 1:34:29
  government and getting laws and policy changed. Right, they can get charity money,
• 1:34:35
  they can get sympathy money from men. Uh, but uh, but
• 1:34:41
  they'll continue to complain. So yeah, equal equal moral standard. If men
• 1:34:53
  responded to the sexual revolution the way women responded to the sexual revel it would
• 1:35:00
  be in jail, equal moral standard. We just talked a while back,
• 1:35:13
  and we'll probably talk about it again in the future. Of a piece of
• 1:35:18
  research that I got to see it because Peter Wright posted about it on on
• 1:35:27
  X and then I ended up purchasing the book that the research was published in
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  that that described women's variety of things that they admitted to and in a survey
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  that was done on college students, university students, and among the different things
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  that these students said, yes, we've we've done these things, one and
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  one in four women had done something that would be called forcible rape if a
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  man did it. That was use force or threat of force to to get
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  sex against the will of the guy that they were with, to override his
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  refusal. One in four, one in five admitted that they actually used force,
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  one in four threat of force. And then you also had three and
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  ten admitting to uh, having sex with an underage guy when they were overage
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  like you had a whole bunch of other things. They admitted to having sex
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  with a guy who was intoxicated or high, having sex, actually using an
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  intoxicant to get sex, and so on. So like there were a whole
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  bunch off and you have to wonder how much of that overlapped with the Nansen
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  How many women have drugged a minor into having sex with them? That was
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  that was never they We weren't privy to that information. I mean, it's
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  bad enough knowing that a third of women are nances, but we don't even
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  know how many women uh nonst mine is that they also drugged. It's a
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  whole fascinating Yeah. In fact, you know, like that's by the time
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  they were in college. Those answers were from women who were in college,
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  so there were still women who have done these things later. This is something
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  that people don't think about when they look at this. Right, all the
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  teachers that you read about, you know, that have have done these things
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  to their students, they would they hadn't done that yet when they were in
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  college. That happened after they graduated college and became part of the education system.
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  That's not what sex that is supposed to be like, but that's pretty
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  much. And the thing is one of the things that feminists tell us when
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  we talk about women's sexual aggression, they make this claim that usually the statistic
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  is like ninety five or ninety seven. Occasionally I'll see them say ninety nine
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  percent of rapists are men. And if you talk to them about it long
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  enough, you find out they approve of legislation that defines rape to exclude forms
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  of perpetration that women engage in so that women don't get labeled rapists when they
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  use force or threat of force to forced to to coerce a guy into sex
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  that he doesn't want to have. Eight point nine percent of them admitted using
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  a weapon, like that chick that used a machete, and then instead of
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  getting charged with rape, she was put in a mental institution. You know,
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  if if a guy did that, he would be charged with rape,
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  whether he was going to get put into a mental institution or not. Later
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  he would still be charged, tried, convicted, and punished for rape.
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  Equal moral standard, you know, except when women are going to get in
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  trouble for things that men get in trouble for, then maybe not, so
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  she finishes in short, equal rights with men. And all laws and customs
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  noticed the absence of responsibilities. Yeah, and then she she finishes up,
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  you know, like there's a there's a blank for the reader to sign.
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  Let me see if I can bring this up so you can actually see the
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  image. And and they they wanted you to register to be part of this
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  organization. So why is that important? Why would it be important that in
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  a national publication a woman published a letter just land basing demonizing men, demanding
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  things from men, but demonizing them anyway, right, and then had this
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  this form that she wanted women to fill out to register for her organization.
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  In a society where men oppress women and women are excluded from power and are
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  controlled by the patriarchy, why would this form be unusual? Do you think
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  there would have been such an organization for slaves where they might register to be
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  part of this organization opposing their owners? Oh? I mean maybe, but
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  it could cause a civil war. What do you think would happen if an
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  owner got hold of all these registrations and found the names on them and could
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  identify the slaves by their names. What do you think the owner would do?
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  M Some not very nice things. Yeah, that's what I was thinking
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  about when I saw this, and then I got to that part and I
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  was just like they filled out paperwork for this, right, these organizations had
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  documented by name membership, They took donations. Where did the women get the
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  money from donation for these donations? If they were under their husband's control and
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  they didn't have control over their own property, Like, what do you think
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  would happen? I mean people were killed in societies where they were oppressed for
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  joining organizations like this, filling out paperwork. These women were completely unafraid,
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  unafraid to castigate men in a national publication and then ask other women to sign
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  their name to it. So oppressed totally. Women had no power and no
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  authority in society, right, no influence and when well, a civil war
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  was of a slavery I know it was more complicated than slavery, but and
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  it wasn't just along racial divisions, it was along I mean, anyone could
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  be a slave and anyone could be a master of any given genetic demographic.
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  But a civil war was fort over slavery, and similar parameters have been drawn
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  between men and women ever since. Then with I know it's going to blow
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  your mind's feminist, but with men as the analogous, I mean the analogue
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  of the slaves. But there's been no hint of a civil war across those
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  lines, even though it's a much bigger deal than the idea of a civil
• 1:43:51
  war being thought over there were black slaves, even though again it wasn't just
• 1:43:59
  black slaves, Irish slaves and all kinds of space. But what's the civil
• 1:44:03
  war people are talking about these days? Something about abortion, something about immigration,
• 1:44:12
  something about fiscal conservatism. It's it's been in excess of a century of
• 1:44:20
  of of of men being indentured servants of women, and no one has ever
• 1:44:28
  even considered having a civil war except us space leperds in this throttle corner of
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  the Internet. Well, we're having a culture war over it, That's that's
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  for sure. And the sad thing is, you know, it's it's all
• 1:44:49
  of society that's losing. There's not a side that's winning in a side that's
• 1:44:55
  losing. It's all of society that's losing. And so that that's that's a
• 1:45:02
  that's a situation that I'm not sure how to rectify that because there are changes
• 1:45:09
  that have happened in our society that I don't think you can go back.
• 1:45:14
  You can't put the hangover back in a beer mug, right, But maybe
• 1:45:23
  if people start figuring out that, you know, ethics and morality are actually
• 1:45:29
  about healthy living and ways to keep yourself safe and ways to keep yourself from
• 1:45:38
  being the asshole in your community. Uh, and not just about judging each
• 1:45:44
  other. You know, Like women hate them because they use them to judge
• 1:45:48
  each other. But and then they get mad when they get used to judge
• 1:45:56
  them. Right, But when you use them to make make your life better
• 1:46:00
  and to be the person who makes the lives of the people around you better
• 1:46:05
  and to avoid being the person that makes the lives of the people around you
• 1:46:10
  worse, they actually turn out to be pretty good things in until people figure
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  that out, Until we get back to a point where women understand that,
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  I think we're gonna end up suffering the way that we are. Now,
• 1:46:30
  we're not gonna get into the next thing because it's almost nine o'clock, so
• 1:46:34
  I think we're probably gonna I got one super chow it posted twice, so
• 1:46:42
  Richard Beier gave us five dollars twice and said the thing about women doing the
• 1:46:47
  same twenty jobs over the years gives me a flashback to when there was a
• 1:46:53
  series of vapid women who were posting about their practicality do nothing or practically do
• 1:46:59
  nothing jobs on social media sites while they were practically just in an adult day
• 1:47:05
  care facility for whatever they were contributing to their employers. Yeah, that was
• 1:47:13
  I remember. Probably the worst or most watched example of that was people posting
• 1:47:23
  about what it was like to work at Twitter and they had, you know,
• 1:47:29
  like free food and they had a wine bar and they had all this
• 1:47:31
  other stuff like, oh, look how nice it is to work here.
• 1:47:34
  Are you going to actually do any work? New work? We just want
• 1:47:45
  the equal pay part. We didn't really mean the equal work part, Hannah.
• 1:47:51
  Yeah, it's funny when you ask a man about his job, where
• 1:47:55
  you ask a woman about his job about her job. Men understand, when
• 1:48:01
  you ask them about their jobs, you are asking them what they are responsible
• 1:48:04
  for at work, and you know what they achieves as part of upholding their
• 1:48:14
  responsibilities, right, And yeah, you also want to know if it is
• 1:48:19
  a type of work that they're satisfied with, and if there's benefits to taking
• 1:48:28
  on those responsibilities and doing that job, you know, and everything. But
• 1:48:33
  women a lot of times will talk about how rewarding their job is, or
• 1:48:39
  how cushy their job is, or how easy their job is, and think
• 1:48:45
  that it's bragging rights, and then then they'll complain that they don't get paid
• 1:48:49
  enough for it. It's kind of a sad thing, you know, Like
• 1:48:59
  when I talk about I work, it's sort of a mix of those things,
• 1:49:04
  right, Because my work, my night job, is important to me
• 1:49:13
  because the type of service that I'm providing is one that I know not a
• 1:49:17
  lot of people feel comfortable doing it, this type of service, and there's
• 1:49:24
  a need for it, and I have the skills and capability of filling that
• 1:49:29
  need, and so it's a place where I fit where I can take responsibility
• 1:49:32
  for some things that other people don't want to take responsibility for. It's not
• 1:49:40
  a high paying job, but it's not a job that even if it was
• 1:49:45
  worth a lot of money, there's not money to pay for that. So
• 1:49:48
  you don't necessarily do it because you want a lot of money. It's not
• 1:49:53
  a job you go into for the money. The job you go into because
• 1:49:56
  you have a sense of responsibility for people in your community who are particularly vulnerable
• 1:50:03
  as a member of your community, and you have the confidence to take on
• 1:50:10
  that responsibility, but it is a very rewarding job, and that you get
• 1:50:15
  to see how upholding your responsibility and doing the tasks related to that job benefits
• 1:50:21
  the people that you went there to benefit. So you immediately get to see
• 1:50:27
  the direct results of your work the whole time you're doing it. And there's
• 1:50:30
  a lot of jobs where you're doing something for months and months and months.
• 1:50:33
  Programming is like that, right, You work on something for months and months
• 1:50:38
  and months, and a lot of it is figuring out how to tell the
• 1:50:43
  computer to do the simplest thing without violating somebody else's proprietary way of telling the
• 1:50:49
  computer to do something similar or the same. And it takes months and months
• 1:50:56
  and months to get an application created that does what you want it to do,
• 1:51:02
  only for it to be full of bugs and people complain about it and
• 1:51:05
  people don't appreciate it, and people pirate it. Right, but it pays
• 1:51:13
  a lot more and in the end you do see your project come to fruition.
• 1:51:18
  You do get to see the end result and you go through a new
• 1:51:21
  problem solve and you create something that hopefully you feel satisfied that it fill the
• 1:51:30
  need. But it's a different thing. And when I hear from men who
• 1:51:38
  are programmers about why they do their jobs and everything, it is that,
• 1:51:44
  you know, they take responsibility for creating useful tools for other people they like.
• 1:51:53
  I don't necessarily hear a lot about oh, I get to do this
• 1:51:57
  and I'm rewarded in this way. And you know, sometimes it's I make
• 1:52:00
  a lot of money, but a lot of times it's look at this thing
• 1:52:06
  I made. Here's what it does, and it allows people to do this,
• 1:52:10
  and it's useful in this way, and it's changed this area of work
• 1:52:15
  or this area of entertainment and stuff. So men and women are very different
• 1:52:19
  in terms of that. And yeah, the adult daycare thing really kind of
• 1:52:25
  hit home because it's it's interesting. I've worked in different workplaces with different types
• 1:52:30
  of women and everything, and there are a lot of women who treat their
• 1:52:33
  jobs that way. Sometimes even when there's a lot of responsibility involved in the
• 1:52:40
  job and they don't they don't do the tasks, they don't do the work,
• 1:52:44
  they don't uphold the responsibility, and then they get mad that their coworkers
• 1:52:46
  don't pick up their slack. So in any case, I think that is
• 1:52:56
  it. I don't think we have anything else in Yeah, I don't have
• 1:53:02
  anything else in restream showing any super chats, and I don't have any more
• 1:53:10
  rumble rants. So I think we're gonna call it a night, and then
• 1:53:19
  next week I'll give you a little bit of a preview. Our first thing
• 1:53:25
  that we are going to look at is gonna widen this a little bit because
• 1:53:30
  it doesn't show the whole thing. If you guys can see this, whoops,
• 1:53:38
  I don't want to open the image of a new tab. Stop that.
• 1:53:41
  There we go. Man is a mere impostor and woman is supreme,
• 1:53:47
  says ultra feminist head. And this is out of London, so you can
• 1:53:57
  look forward to that next week. This isn't very long. We've We've got
• 1:54:00
  some other things we'll look at besides it next week, but we will start
• 1:54:05
  with that. And with that, it makes me giggle because I'm picturing just
• 1:54:13
  a disembodied head. What I agree like? Oh shoot, I can't think
• 1:54:25
  of the Futurama cartoon. Yes, head in the jarim is headed a jar
• 1:54:32
  angrily shouts it headmin But yeah, so that's gonna be our next next next
• 1:54:40
  week's starting article, and then we will also look at some racist Suffragette quotes
• 1:54:45
  and do a little discussion about the Suffragette's opposition to the fifteenth Amendment. But
• 1:54:54
  with that, I'll think everybody for listening to the the moderate sauce moderately length
• 1:55:03
  obviously not moderately. We're going to be called extremists for everything we said tonight,
• 1:55:09
  and yeah, you drank me into a coma just now well done responsibility
• 1:55:18
  extremism, female accountability extremist. But yeah, thanks to my two co hosts
• 1:55:30
  for for sticking out the extreme sausage, and thanks to everybody who works in
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  the background and make HBr talk happen, except for WordPress. Fuck you WordPress
• 1:55:43
  for shutting down on us, Like can't you just work properly? Good night,
• 1:55:47
  all that ye