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The Hidden Cost of Lowball HVAC · Cool Talk with Hartzell's | Your HVAC Questions, Answered!

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  SPEAKER_01: You know, it is funny.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you see a winter jacket for like 70% off, you just grab it immediately.
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  SPEAKER_00: You feel like you totally beat the system.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: But when your air conditioner dies in the middle of, you know, a brutal August heat wave, well, that exact same bargain hunting instinct will actually walk you right into a massive financial trap.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It really is a huge psychological trap because we are so conditioned to look for the absolute lowest number on a price tag and just assume it is a victory.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So welcome to the deep dive.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today we are opening up the field notes of Dave Hertzall.
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  SPEAKER_01: He is a 45-year Oklahoma HVAC veteran.
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  SPEAKER_01: And our mission today is to decode those really confusing repair quotes, avoid the common traps, and reveal why the absolute cheapest option might actually bankrupt you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And in the world of major home mechanics, that instinct to go cheap is just the definition of a false economy.
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  SPEAKER_01: It really is.
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  SPEAKER_01: And to show you exactly what we mean, Dave's records actually have this perfect story.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there was a lady in Kingfisher who called him when her system just completely quit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and let me guess.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right in the middle of a brutal heat wave.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right in the middle of a heat wave.
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  SPEAKER_00: The temperature was not even dropping below 78 degrees at night.
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  SPEAKER_00: And another company had already been out there and basically just handed her a quote for a full system replacement.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which is um a terrifying piece of paper to look at when you are exhausted from the heat.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you just want the suffering to stop.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: You do.
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  SPEAKER_01: And people make really rash decisions when they are uncomfortable like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: But Dave gets out there, he takes a look, and he actually finds a bad capacitor and a fan motor that had apparently been screaming for a year.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just a fan motor and a capacitor.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: He fixed the whole thing for about$600.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that unit is actually still running today.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is incredible.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And here is the shock value for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: If she had gone with that first quote, replacing that nine-year-old unit would have cost her$9,000 for literally absolutely no reason.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is just a stunning difference.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you know, it brings up exactly why this topic is so relevant right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because September is basically when the bill comes due.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, because they barely made it through the summer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Think about all those units that barely limped through July and August.
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  SPEAKER_00: They are finally giving out now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And homeowners have probably already spent, you know, money on a couple of service calls earlier in the season.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they are already frustrated and out of cash.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that is exactly when a low-ball, super cheap replacement bid looks like a rescue raft.
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  SPEAKER_01: So to really understand how that homeowner saved over$8,000, we first need to define what cheap actually means in this industry.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because we are not saying you should avoid saving money, obviously.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: There are actually different versions of cheap.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that$600 repair was a perfectly legitimate, good, cheap fix.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that is the first type, um, the cheap repair.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is very often the smart choice.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like think about the story you just told.
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  SPEAKER_00: A capacitor and a condenser fan motor, those are just wear parts.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's basically triage.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, you are buying time on a healthy machine rather than sinking cash into a dying one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it is exactly like putting new tires on an old truck.
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  SPEAKER_00: You do not just scrap the whole truck because the tires are bald.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: That makes total sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell That repair bought her probably three or four more seasons, minimum.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it was not a cheap way out, it was just the correct, appropriate fix.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um if a cheap repair is actually the smart move, where does the real danger come in?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because if a contractor offers to install a brand new system for like$4,000 less than the competition, I mean that feels like a huge win.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is the dangerous version.
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  SPEAKER_00: We call that the cheap install.
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  SPEAKER_01: The cheap install, okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: They lower their upfront price by basically leaving crucial pieces out of the job entirely, which um we really need to break down in a minute.
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  SPEAKER_01: We definitely will.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the third type.
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  SPEAKER_00: The third type is the cheap company.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is the ghost operation that gives you an unbeatable price today, but then they totally vanish when you need warranty work next year.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that is the worst.
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  SPEAKER_01: But let us back up to the repair side for a second.
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  SPEAKER_01: How do you, as a homeowner, actually know when a repair crosses the line and becomes a genuinely bad idea?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, it becomes a bad idea when the actual foundation of the system is failing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for example, um, if you have a 15 or 16-year-old machine that is still running on old R22 refrigerant.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is the older stuff, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is the old chemical standard that got globally phased out for environmental reasons.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is so incredibly rare now that the refrigerant itself often costs more than the mechanical part you are actually trying to replace.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Oh, wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you're basically throwing really expensive gas into a machine that might just die next month anyway.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or, you know, if the technician tests the compressor and tells you that it is drawing high amps.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Okay, wait, before we move on, what does drawing high amps actually mean?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because I hear that thrown around all the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it means the electrical current that is needed to keep the motor spinning is just spiking abnormally high.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Think of a runner who is struggling to breathe while sprinting up a really steep hill.
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  SPEAKER_00: The motor is just working far too hard, it is creating excessive heat, and it is basically on the verge of burning out completely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I hate it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if your compressor is drawing high amps, putting a new$500 fan motor on that unit is literally just throwing good money after bad.
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  SPEAKER_01: You are just bleeding cash at that point.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Dave's notes actually highlight a really painful story about this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um a homeowner dropped$2,200 across two summers just keeping a dying system alive, only to finally have to replace the whole thing anyway.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that$2,200 is just gone.
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  SPEAKER_00: And nobody ever writes that hidden risk on a quote.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I have got to step in here and play devil's advocate for a second.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because if you are listening to this right now, you are probably thinking about the diagnostic fees that companies charge.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: People hate diagnostic fees.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right, because Dave charges$210 total to dispatch a truck and diagnose a system.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that money does not go toward the repair if you choose to move forward.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So isn't that just a way for a company to basically guarantee they get paid even if they do absolutely nothing?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, that is a completely understandable reaction, but let us look at the psychology and the actual economics behind that fee.
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  SPEAKER_00: That flat diagnostic charge is actually your primary protection as a consumer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wait, how does paying a fee actually protect me?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because it completely removes the financial incentive for the technician to push a massive, unnecessary replacement.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I think I see where you're going.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: If a technician gets paid the exact same amount to properly diagnose your system, whether you fix it or replace it or do absolutely nothing at all, they have no reason to steer you wrong.
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  SPEAKER_00: They can just hand you the facts and let you decide.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell As opposed to a company giving away a free diagnostic.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because it costs real money to put a trained technician in a fully stocked truck and send them to your driveway.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Gas, insurance, salary.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if they are giving that time away for free, they have to make that money back somehow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
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  SPEAKER_00: They have to find something wrong.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: The free diagnostic usually forces the technician to find something major to recommend, something you probably do not actually need.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the free diagnostic is often the most expensive service call you will ever book.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: That completely flips the script on how we perceive value.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell It really does.
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  SPEAKER_01: So once you understand the motivation behind the technician standing in your garage, you really have to look at the quote itself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let us say I need a brand new system.
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  SPEAKER_01: Why is one bid$6,500 and another bid is$11,000 for what looks like the exact same equipment?
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Well, because it is almost never the same equipment.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean the differences are all totally invisible once the metal panel is screwed back onto the unit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Okay, so the lowball bid is cheap because they reuse things they should be replacing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like what though?
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  SPEAKER_01: What are they actually leaving out?
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  SPEAKER_00: Take the copper line set, for example.
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  SPEAKER_00: So those are the two copper pipes running from your outdoor unit into your indoor unit.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they carry the refrigerant and the lubricating oil.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: The copper pipes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are they putting in fresh copper or are they just reusing the old lines?
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Wait, does reusing copper really matter that much?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean it is just pipe.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it matters immensely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Old systems use a completely different type of oil than modern systems do.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you do not replace or, you know, properly flush those lines out, the old acidic oil mixes with the new oil.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh no.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It creates this thick sludge that will literally eat the internal components of your brand new compressor.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell So they just cut a corner to save a few hundred bucks on installation and they guarantee a catastrophic failure down the road.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there is more.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are they installing a brand new electrical disconnect box, or are they just wiring your new machine into some rusted out box from 2004?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yikes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are they putting in proper drain traps and safety float switches?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or are they using the same clogged PBC pipe that dumped water all over your ceiling last year?
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Ross Powell Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because all those missing line items save the installer time and money today.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you pay the heavy price tomorrow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Dave actually points out that the biggest missing line item is the load calculation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is huge.
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  SPEAKER_01: A cheap installer basically skips this entirely and just looks at the sticker on the old unit.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they see a four-ton unit and they just quote you a four-ton unit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell, which is incredibly risky because a proper load calculation actually measures the real thermal needs of your house based on things like windows, insulation, and exact square footage.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Well, let me ask you about this, because I always sort of assumed bigger was just better when it comes to air conditioning.
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  SPEAKER_00: Most people do.
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  SPEAKER_01: Especially in, you know, intense summer heat.
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  SPEAKER_01: If my house is really struggling to stay cool, why wouldn't I want a massive five-ton unit instead of a four-ton?
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  SPEAKER_00: It is a totally logical assumption, but the physics of air conditioning, especially in places with high heat and high humidity like central Oklahoma, well, they just work entirely differently.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, how so?
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: An air conditioner actually does two things: it cools the air and it removes moisture from the air.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I am following.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cooling and dehumidifying.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you put a massive oversized unit in your house, it blasts cold air so aggressively that it actually satisfies the thermostat in about eight minutes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then it just shuts off.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: That sounds great.
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  SPEAKER_01: Fast cooling.
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  SPEAKER_00: It sounds great until you realize it never actually ran long enough to pull the humidity out of the air.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: The indoor coil needs time to get cold and literally wring the water out of the air like a sponge.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I see.
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  SPEAKER_00: So now your house is sitting at 72 degrees, but it feels incredibly clammy and sticky.
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  SPEAKER_00: So because you feel uncomfortable, you just walk over to the thermostat and drop it down to 69 degrees.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: So now I am freezing cold, but I am still sticky, and my electric bill is just climbing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And even worse, that constant turning on and off is what we call short cycling.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: Short cycling, okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It takes a massive electrical surge to start a compressor.
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  SPEAKER_00: So doing that every 10 minutes basically beats the motor to death.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dave notes that downsizing a house from a five-ton unit to a correctly sized four-ton unit actually makes the house feel comfortable for the first time simply because it runs long enough to dehumidify the space.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is wild.
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  SPEAKER_01: So a perfectly sized system is great, but Dave also mentions that it is completely useless if the delivery mechanism is compromised.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which brings us to the two biggest ongoing money drains that homeowners just kind of accept as normal.
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  SPEAKER_00: The silent energy thieves.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So first up is duct work.
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  SPEAKER_01: The notes specifically mention older homes in places like Ocarche, Hennessy, and Cashin.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um attics in those areas can easily hit 140 degrees in July.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, easily.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: It is brutal up there.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if your duct system is leaking 20 to 25 percent, which is apparently very common, you are literally paying to air condition your 140-degree addict.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is where that cheap quote trap strikes again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um let us talk about SEER ratings for a second.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, SEER.
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  SPEAKER_01: What does that stand for?
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  SPEAKER_00: SEER stands for seasonal energy efficiency ratio.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is basically the miles per gallon rating for your air conditioner.
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  SPEAKER_01: Higher numbers mean better efficiency, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you buy a brand new, highly efficient 15 sear machine, but you attach it to really bad, leaky ducts, it is going to perform like a cheap, inefficient 11 sear machine.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so you paid thousands for efficiency you will literally never experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: Never.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the low ball bid never mentions your bad ductwork.
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  SPEAKER_00: The second they add duct repair to their quote, they are no longer the lowest price.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they would rather let you cool your attic than lose the sale.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is incredibly frustrating.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: It really is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, the other silent thief we need to tackle is what Dave calls the refrigerant subscription.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I hate this one.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: This is when a technician comes out every spring, tells you the system is a little low on refrigerant, adds a pound, charges you, and leaves.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Yeah, this is one of those destructive myths in the entire industry.
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  SPEAKER_00: Refrigerant does not get used up like gas in a car.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is a completely closed loop system.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell But treating refrigerant like motor oil that just needs a seasonal top-off is a total myth.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it is actually more like having a hole in your gas tank.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell That is the perfect analogy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: If the refrigerant is low, it means it left the system through a hole, it leaked out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And every single year you just pay someone to add a pound of gas, you are ignoring a leak that is just getting worse and worse.
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  SPEAKER_00: But um, the real danger is what actually happens to the compressor.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wait, why does a leak kill the compressor?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because the refrigerant is not just cooling your house.
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  SPEAKER_00: The cold gas returning from inside the house is what actually cools the compressor motor itself.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: I had no idea.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if the gas leaks out, there is absolutely nothing cooling that motor.
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  SPEAKER_00: It just overheats and literally cooks itself to death.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: That is a massive failure.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
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  SPEAKER_00: And refrigerant handling is highly regulated, licensed work for a very good reason.
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  SPEAKER_00: A real professional diagnosis involves actually finding the leak.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right, figuring out where it went.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sometimes it can just be patched.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes the leak is buried deep in the evaporator coil inside your house, and that entire coil needs replacing.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: But simply topping it off year after year is a scam.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: A scam that leads directly to a catastrophic compressor failure down the road.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we know we need a proper diagnosis.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: We definitely need correct sizing, and we need to fix the ducts and stop the leaks.
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  SPEAKER_01: But how do you actually pay for all of this without falling back into the panic of just picking the absolute cheapest upfront bid?
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  SPEAKER_00: That is the million-dollar question.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because doing it right is obviously more expensive today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell It really comes down to protecting your investment and um understanding how to manage the psychology of a sudden expense.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because when you are staring at an$8,000 bill in the middle of a heat wave, panic just sets in.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: You just want the bleeding to stop.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that panic is what drives people toward the cheapest, most dangerous install.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: And this is exactly where financing changes the game entirely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: But we are not just talking about putting it on a high interest credit card, are we?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, not at all.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: The industry actually has tools designed specifically to remove that panic.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Things like 18 months of 0% interest financing through places like Synchrony.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: So you basically get some breathing room.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: You get 18 months to pay it off without any penalty.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: Suddenly, you are not forced to choose the guy skipping the load calculation just because he is$2,000 cheaper today.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: You actually have the flexibility to choose the correct install.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: There are soft credit pull options like WiseTech that do not even ding your score.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: There is Klarna for smaller tickets or JB financing for lower credit scores, even Wells Fargo has programs.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: That makes a lot of sense.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: And financing covers unexpected repairs, too, right?
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: Not just total replacements.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: Repairs, maintenance plans, or even finally fixing that leaky ductwork we talked about.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: You just spread the cost out so you can actually afford to do the job correctly.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell We also hear a lot about utility rebeats helping with the overall cost.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: We do.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: Now the notes are very careful to warn against trusting a deep dive for federal tax advice.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Right.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely consult a tax professional for the IRS stuff.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Ross Powell Right, because those rules change constantly.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: However, on the local level, utility companies like OG and E, OEC, and C Kennergy offer very real rebate programs.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that is great to know.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and actually, just briefly, Dave's team offers geothermal heating and cooling in Oklahoma, which is just one option they have that can sometimes come with pretty substantial utility rebates.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, very cool.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: But again, the specific amounts and deadlines shift constantly depending on your exact ZIP code and your county.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I have to be honest, it feels incredibly overwhelming for a regular person to try to track all these changing rebates, soft credit polls, and you know, warranty registration windows.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it is a lot.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: How is a homeowner supposed to manage all this paperwork?
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: They really should not have to.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: And um this brings up the dark side of warranties that we need to touch on.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because every company advertises a 10-year warranty on new equipment.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 10 years sounds incredibly safe.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: It does sound safe.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: But manufacturers have these really strict registration windows after the installation.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: If your cheap installer just throws the unit in and totally forgets to file the paperwork, you can lose over half of your parts coverage.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: Are you serious?
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: And you will not even know it until the unit breaks five years later and you are left holding the bag.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: That is a total nightmare.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: And here's the other secret about that parts coverage only covers the actual part.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, right, the labor.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: If your compressor fails, they might send you a free compressor.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: But a free compressor is not truly free if it takes a technician six hours of uncovered labor to install it.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: You are still paying a massive bill.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: And this is exactly why the reputation of the company matters so much.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: A reputable company with 15 plus years in business manages all these registrations for you.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: So they basically act as your advocate, not just your mechanic.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: They do the legwork to check your specific ZIP code for active rebate programs before they ever even put a quote in front of you.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: That is a huge relief.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we have covered thousands of dollars in replacements, um, complex utility rebates, and navigating the psychology of financing.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: But Dave's field notes point out that the single most effective way to save money takes about five minutes.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is almost too simple, which is exactly why people totally ignore it.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: It is basic maintenance.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: Dave says a$229 tune-up in April is literally the best money you can spend.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: Because it catches that bad capacitor.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it is just slightly out of range, right?
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: Before it completely fails in August and takes the rest of the system down with it.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, most of the emergency high stress calls that technicians run in the middle of July are for problems that were completely visible and, you know, totally preventable back in April.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: But here is the most mind-blowing statistic from the entire deep dive.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: And it is about your air filter.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: Leaving a cheap one-inch filter in your system for eight months basically chokes off the airflow entirely.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: It is so bad for the system.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: And that choked airflow causes the indoor coil to freeze solid, which then overworks and entirely kills the blower motor.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: We really need to explain the physics of why that happens because it is fascinating and people just do not understand it.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: Please do, because I always wondered how a blocked filter actually turns into solid ice.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so your air conditioner needs a constant flow of warm house air blowing over the really cold indoor coil to actually function.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, warm air over a cold coil.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: The heat from your house is what keeps that extremely cold coil just above the freezing point.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: So when you clog the filter with dust and, you know, dog hair, you choke off that warm air.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: So without the warm air, the coil just gets too cold.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: The temperature of the coil drops below freezing.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: So the natural humidity in the air condenses on the cold metal, but instead of dripping down the drain like it is supposed to, it instantly freezes into solid ice.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: And that ice just grows until it completely blocks the airflow.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: Now your indoor blower motor is straining to push air through a solid wall of ice.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: And the motor simply burns itself out trying to push it.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: It is a devastating chain reaction.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: That is insane.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: You are looking at a$5 piece of cardboard and paper causing a$900 mechanical failure all because someone basically just forgot to slide it out of the slot.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: Which perfectly encapsulates everything we have been talking about today.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know, cheap and right size are not the same word.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: Ignoring maintenance is cheap today, but it is incredibly expensive tomorrow.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: So if you want a straight answer from someone who actually does the math and finds the leaks instead of just patching them, you can reach out to Dave Hartzell's team at 405-375-4822 or visit hartsellsheetair.com.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: The core lesson here is to really stop looking for the absolute lowest upfront number.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, ask what is on the quote.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: Ask what is missing from the quote, and ask who is actually going to answer the phone when it breaks on a Sunday in August.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: So to kind of bring it all back around, we start by talking about the thrill of bargain hunting and how hunting for a really cheap mechanical quote is really just setting a trap for yourself.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: You think you are saving a few bucks, but you are really just hiding the true cost behind the drywall and up in the attic.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: It really does make you evaluate how you maintain your entire home.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: It does.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: Which um raises a really fascinating question for you to ponder.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: What is that?
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, if a simple clogged five dollar air filter can literally destroy a nine thousand dollar machine just by being ignored, um what other tiny inexpensive maintenance items in our homes are we completely ignoring right now?
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: Simply waiting until they silently grow into catastrophic financial emergencies.